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Plant Extinction, "Green" Energy, & Perineum Deli Platters

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ค. 2021
  • Thanks to Janel Johnson, Patrick Donnelly and Naomi Fraga for help in production of this video. To help save this species (and force Ioneer to put their open pit mine somewhere else nearby where the biological impact will be less devastating) please check out the following link :
    act.biological...
    Eriogonum tiehmii is a rare buckwheat known from a remote little corner of Nevada. It is an edaphic specialist, which means it is restricted to a special type of soil rich in lithium and boron, having evolved a very specific and special ability to be able to tolerate these generally barren white chalky soils of the high desert. This plant's affinity for these kinds of soils maybe what ultimately dooms it, as %70 of its population is due to be wiped out by a proposed open-pit lithium mine that an Australian mining company named Ioneer wants to develop on the site. If it passes, this plant would be doomed and this beautiful and geologically interesting area would be scarred forever.
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  • @NosebleedPolitics
    @NosebleedPolitics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    *The Silver Peak Range*
    1:44 "Tiehm's buckwheat" _Eriogonum tiehmii, Polygonaceae_
    2:07 lithium and boron rich sedimentary deposits
    2:42 lacustrine environments
    3:17 "Tiehm's buckwheat" flower
    3:53 searlesite, borosilicates
    5:12 edaphic specialist
    5:47 collapsed mine
    5:59 arthropod fossil?
    6:10 holotype location
    6:26 Dr. James Reveal (1941-2015)
    *1 mile south*
    6:49 horned miner _Scombridae_ sp. can
    6:57 "Barneby's beardtongue" _Penstemon barnabyi, Plantaginaceae_
    7:06 staminode
    7:28 alluvial deposits
    7:40 Louie
    7:45 "pinyon pine" _Pinus monophylla, Pinaceae_
    7:47 "juniper" _Juniperus_ sp., _Cupressaceae_
    7:48 "prince's plume" _Stanleya pinnata, Brassicaceae_
    8:45 _Enceliopsis nudicaulis, Asteraceae_
    9:27 "paintbrush" _Castilleja chromosa, Orobanchaceae_
    9:49 "Kearney's buckwheat" _Eriogonum nummulare, Polygonaceae_
    9:58 caespitose, prostrate
    10:54 "prince's plume"
    11:53 "Tiehm's buckwheat"
    12:09 extirpation
    13:17 involucre
    14:25 edaphic specialist evolution
    14:48 allele
    16:40 pedicel
    17:09 tepals
    18:45 eriogonum self-pollination
    21:54 Jack and Louie
    22:52 "sagebrush" _Artemisia tridentata, Asteraceae_
    23"05 Jack
    23:06 "Newberry's milkvetch" _Astragalus newberryi, Fabaceae_
    23:35 "Barneby's beardtongue"
    25:23 "spiny menodora" _Mendora spinescens, Oleaceae_
    26:13 "Tiehm's buckwheat"
    26:14 "Buckwheat in the Boardroom", original piece by CPBBD
    27:14 "ground nama" _Nama aretioides, Boraginaceae_
    29:17 "paintbrush"
    30:15 bedded chert
    30:35 "Tiehm's buckwheat"
    31:43 Jack
    31:49 "winterfat" _Krascheninnikovia lanata, Amaranthaceae_
    32:11 "Kearney's buckwheat"
    32:21 "pink phlox" _Phlox stansburyi, Polemoniaceae_
    32:39 salverform corolla
    33:23 "Fendler's sandmat" _Euphorbia fendleri, Euphorbiaceae_
    33:48 "cushion buckwheat" _Eriogonum ovalifolium, Polygonaceae_
    34:13 "blazing star" _Mentzelia_ sp., _Loasaceae_
    34:47 "desert milk weed" _Asclepias erosa, Apocynaceae_
    35:09 "cat's eye" _Cryptantha_ sp., _Boraginaceae_
    35:18 "Frémont's phacelia" _Phacelia fremontii, Boraginaceae_
    *Subpopulation #3*
    35:52 lacustrine sedimentary bedding
    37:41 "Tiehm's buckwheat"
    38:03 former mine
    39:23 "shadscale" _Atriplex confertifolia, Amaranthaceae_
    39:36 paleozoic limestone
    43:23 plant ID tag
    45:25 mining ditches
    46:39 horned miner hole
    48:00 stipitate glands
    48:21 Al Scorch voicemail (link Al Scorch - Working Dream: th-cam.com/video/dNUgqDAHfxI/w-d-xo.html )

    • @nicktheworld5356
      @nicktheworld5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao what's the point in time stamps for a video like this?

    • @NosebleedPolitics
      @NosebleedPolitics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      ​@@nicktheworld5356 If you're searching for meaning in your own life you're gonna have to bang your own two brain cells together to figure that one out. If you're looking for the rest of the world to have meaning based off of your needs you're gonna have a life filled with questions just like this.

    • @nicktheworld5356
      @nicktheworld5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NosebleedPolitics 😂😂😂 lmao whaaaat?! Bro why the fuck would anyone need to know when you can find "mining ditches" in this video.
      👀👀 BRUH WHERES THE MINING DITCHES AT👀👀

    • @NosebleedPolitics
      @NosebleedPolitics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Umesh It's helpful to track geological features because they often define botanical niches. Many plants will follow human disturbance alone and tracking that can be helpful for understanding the local ecology. Our actions are making a huge impact on the landscape and as important as it is to understand limestone bedding as substrate, it's also becoming important to understand human development land as a substrate. A mining ditch is an area where material from a mine has been extracted and transported across a leveled track over a period of time. In order to arrive at a place and understand that you have to be able to recognize its history. This process is something novel to the Anthropocene and can be understood in the same way we understand any other geological process. Documenting these areas comprehensively and truly understanding their dynamics is tedious work that most of the world simply isn't capable of doing. It isn't the process of defining value and then looking for it in the natural world, it is seeing the natural world as it presents itself and observing what patterns emerge. I have my own reasons for doing this work, and I make it public because I've gotten feedback that they're useful for a variety of reasons. Studying, revisiting what they're interested in, and just finding the dogs. For the lesser known plants you can search their name on TH-cam and CPBBD videos will come up, I suspect from the auto-transcript that is generated by TH-cam being connected to the search function. From that point, one may use my comment to find the exact plant they were looking for. I see these comments as complementary indexes for lasting documentation of fading landscapes. There is some irony in that you are inquisitive and asking good questions. If only you were earnest in seeking answers. Hopefully this comment is for you, but I can hedge my efforts on the knowledge that passers-by will also see this.
      Now let's rewatch 43:37-44:15 for the effect of that mining ditch.

    • @KimChi-iy7jd
      @KimChi-iy7jd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you very much! 🙏🏼😊💜

  • @wiblet
    @wiblet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    when i feel bad about myself i pretend im a plant being described by this guy

    • @MrBraffZachlin
      @MrBraffZachlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      does he say you are a" bi-pedal ape who doesn't value anything that doesn't directly benefit it"? lol 3:14

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Parasocial relationships are getting weird, but comforting.

    • @warmgreytenpercent
      @warmgreytenpercent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Healthy coping amiright?

    • @hewhoadds
      @hewhoadds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      “look at that beautiful bastard… hairy too!”

    • @seanfilderar2377
      @seanfilderar2377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      something about ovaries

  • @danielpirone8028
    @danielpirone8028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    From MMA to chert to deli trays to Al, this one has it all

    • @FlyingBalcony
      @FlyingBalcony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I just can't imagine living life before youtube, this channel is a philosophy, knowledge and entertainment goldmine. 3 in 1!

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      My fear is that many will not watch the last 60 seconds of the video for The encore

    • @unvexis
      @unvexis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt It was worth it.

    • @joefrancis759
      @joefrancis759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt I haven't seen it yet, but tbfh I always stay for the money shot

    • @DoubleHaulCharters
      @DoubleHaulCharters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😀

  • @saccers
    @saccers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    I come home from a walk in the desert and get to sit down and watch another man take a walk in the desert.

  • @foolishandthewise
    @foolishandthewise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Your perspective about how humans live make me feel less crazy. Its good mental health care. Thank you. Our values are way off.

    • @categorille8330
      @categorille8330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      it's values, sure, but it's mostly the exploitative systems that are based off of and reinforce these values which are at fault. We need to fight these systems rather than think of all humanity as bad. We can do better.

    • @philiphammar
      @philiphammar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @foolishandthewise
      @foolishandthewise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@categorille8330 I absolutely don't think that humanity is bad. I think it is very complex but in my opinion the economic system is set up to reward those that are willing to play along. Since most people are good at falling in line and doing what others are doing, we just reinforce that it is for our kids and keep pushing the lie to each other. It is clear not only can we do better but we could exploit that same thing in humans to be fit in. In a real commnunity it doesn't make sense to complete. Your kids will do better if you cooperate with others. I know some people with think this is polyanna-ish or whatever. Cynical thinking is so pervasive like our fearless plant expert said in this video. I know humans want to do better but there isn't much space to do that right now. It is accepted to be brutal while at work as long as you contribute to charity or signal to others that you care while outside of the business world. How confusing!? No wonder people go nuts. It is such a fake way to live and deep down we know something isn't right. Just pondering here...what do other people think?

    • @mjade1673
      @mjade1673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Shouldn't even be called "values" anymore.

    • @philiphammar
      @philiphammar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foolishandthewise nicely put

  • @petercactus3460
    @petercactus3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Grinding up 500 year old Joshua trees broke my heart. There's a price to pay for the way we live

  • @anthropomorphizedrock
    @anthropomorphizedrock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    that fucking voicemail at the end just made my week 😂
    These videos give me life. I’m glad someone can be out there to sing to these plants, and show them off a bit

  • @DanKillam
    @DanKillam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thank you for profiling this plant with such love, and sharing why it is special. So much of the news coverage has just described it as a little scrubby unremarkable plant, not showing it in flower or discussing its unique ecology.

  • @hgarnica33
    @hgarnica33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I worked as a Rangeland technician for BLM in central NV, and your plant knowledge beats pretty much anyone I have met and worked with ... we could've used you in our surveys! My favorite plant that I came across out there is the Matted Buckwheat (Eriogonum caespitosum) very similar.

  • @GoAwayStupidAI
    @GoAwayStupidAI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I definitely agree with the idea: Our technology has outpaced our psychology.

    • @jokers7890
      @jokers7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand and agree with your general point. To add to it, it is our temporary stage of development. Meaning, our social development (psychology) WILL at some point in future development become the primary force for global human societal development. The stage we are at now, yes the political economic development is primary still and will be for some time. I am guessing in the next 200-300 years humanity will achieve such fully integrated global political economic development (capitalism), that we will move to a new stage in which our social development (our minds/consciousness) will for the first time take control [some form of real socialism (i.e. planned political economy)].

    • @extropiantranshuman
      @extropiantranshuman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      we should've learned our lesson with social media - but we didn't.

    • @PueMonTen
      @PueMonTen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      200 years is nothing. that is wishful thinking. We can hope sometimes in the next 200 thousand years to finally realize

    • @_general_error
      @_general_error 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd say it the other way around. It's our physiology which needs to change for our technology to improve in the right ways and at the right pace. But generally yeah, it's tech which is ahead of our thinking...

  • @BeetleBuns
    @BeetleBuns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    shouldn't having a locally unique species automatically protect an area from all development? You'd think that would be a great policy to have

  • @ZAELish
    @ZAELish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It is so bloody short sighted. I mean beyond preserving biodiversity there is also the potential for such plants in things like bioremediation.

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seems a common theme with hominids lately 😔

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They should bank a whole bunch of seed and plant the whole area when the mining is done, and the ground is nothing but lithium boron wasteland.

    • @ZAELish
      @ZAELish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@katiekane5247 one of the reasons there are so many regulations in place in some places. One thing the EU is good for at least if the actual member states actually enforce them that is. It reminds me of the fishing quotas definitely nowhere near a perfect system but without them a lot of fish would nearly go extinct

    • @Tipi_Dan
      @Tipi_Dan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@evilsharkey8954 There aren't "a whole bunch of seeds". Additionally, the fine characteristics of every local microenvironment , including unique soil characteristics at each locus, are not reproducible through human manipulation. Ever try to dig up a wild plant and grow it in your garden? In desert environments, governing environmental conditions that permit one plant to germinate, grow, establish, and reproduce at one micro-locus are so fine-tuned as to be beyond human comprehension, let alone replication.
      Fuggetaboutit.

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tipi Dan, I’m not the type of person who poaches wild plants for my garden. It’s hard enough to get garden plants to be happy since so many places sell stuff that doesn’t thrive in the local area, even for one season.
      I’m hoping they go mine somewhere else, but we all know how much influence the almighty dollar has in such matters. In the likely event that they tear up some of the natural environment, they should be required to harvest seed from the populations they’ll destroy and add it to the remaining populations to keep them diverse.

  • @LtGameboy
    @LtGameboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    kinda reminds me of the story of Plectostoma sciaphilum; it was a snail that lived on one limestone hill that a cement company mined out, and erased the entire species, But hey who needs a unique species endemic to a tiny area when you could get an extra 20 bucks for cigars right?

    • @Bee-nf5yx
      @Bee-nf5yx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What an astonishingly beautiful genus of snail! I've never heard of them before. I wonder how many species have been made extinct without being known. So many, I'm sure.

    • @ericjenkins5815
      @ericjenkins5815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That also happened with a coal mining company and a carnivorous snail that lived on one peak in New Zealand. They chopped off the whole top of the mountain for coal that wasn’t even profitable and destroyed all its natural habitat. Now it just lives in fridges in captivity, though like half of them died when one of the fridges broke. A pretty tragic story.

  • @alexandraskau5826
    @alexandraskau5826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Home means Nevada
    Home means the hills
    Home means the sage and the pine.
    Out where the Truckee silvery rills
    Out where the sun always shines.
    There is the land that I love the best
    Fairer than all I can see.
    Out in the heart of the golden west
    Home means Nevada to me.
    Thanks for the panoramics and appreciating those desert plants! Now I’m missing Nevada!

  • @lindashankland5056
    @lindashankland5056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I always appreciate the money shots. Fascinating geology out there as well, I don’t want to see it all destroyed for “progress”, or any other reason. I say leave it be, they can dig elsewhere.

    • @LeslieDugger
      @LeslieDugger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The world has many other beauties . This progress will help us all in the long run

  • @williamjarvis7949
    @williamjarvis7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You forgot to mention that these paleo-lakes are caldera basins. The associated volcanic activity causes the Li enrichment.

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Miocene volcanics, yes. But why all the lithium in volcanics. Same situation in Chile I suppose, leeched out of the andesite. In the case of the Great basin the comparatively thin crust causes geothermal activity which is why most of the lithium comes to the surface, with hot water

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *thin crust due to extensional tectonics

    • @williamjarvis7949
      @williamjarvis7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The volcanic enrichment comes from small degree fractional melting. Li is a very incompatible element in most rock forming minerals and therefore goes into the melt whenever the rock barely gets hot enough. Typically more associated with rhyolitic magmatism.

    • @williamjarvis7949
      @williamjarvis7949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This paper gives a good overview of the enrichment processes of Li in these environments:
      Https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-00234-y

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@williamjarvis7949 ok, stop. It's makin me too hot. I got to go put a bucket of ice on my crotch now

  • @marktaylor4458
    @marktaylor4458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    We love to name anyone that does their job, a hero. You are one of the true heroes.

  • @katrinanatura7937
    @katrinanatura7937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Another awesome video!! Please make more re-greenification planting guides applicable to different environments/soil types + tips and tricks to ensure the survival of newly planted plants

  • @lucyb15
    @lucyb15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    what a sweet plant! the fuzz on the stem is especially endearing.

  • @bethlebee589
    @bethlebee589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    As a producer, I would absolutely offer you a nature documentary gig lol

    • @lisakukla459
      @lisakukla459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like this idea!

    • @violetly_
      @violetly_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Holy shit, a nature doc by him would be so awesome. His presentation would probably get more people interested in this stuff (or at least be less obnoxiously boring and sterile like most nature docs are unfortunately)

    • @thomaswright2426
      @thomaswright2426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d definitely watch that

    • @mathdesm9306
      @mathdesm9306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please have it made in a civilized part of the world where they don't censor FUCK

  • @larryclark1518
    @larryclark1518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tony, thanks so much for another great visit. ……And……. the therapy session is the shining co-star here!!! I know, I feel a lot less homocidal after the visit.

  • @sagetmaster4
    @sagetmaster4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    36:46 beautiful example of how localized deformation can be according to the competence of the lithology. The chert directly adjacent to those thinly laminated mudstones are much less deformed and the nearby granites would be even less so. This is despite the fact that the region as a whole experience similar stresses
    Edit: I guess it would be more accurate to call them laminated micritic limestones due to the carbonate content (or marlstones if the clay fraction is high enough)

  • @pembrokecardigan6849
    @pembrokecardigan6849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoy ALL of your videos, but this one made me laugh AND cry the most. As a healthcare worker trying my best every day to provide medical care to patients IN SPITE of what the people in the ivory tower want, I come home every night seething with anger at the system. Your comments about the CEOs of these faceless conglomerates took my mind off my troubles for just a bit. Thanks!

  • @tylernardone3788
    @tylernardone3788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Patrick Donnelly and Naomi Fraga are great follows on Twitter. Super cool to see you work with them and on this particular story!

  • @feedbackart
    @feedbackart ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving your work. Your monotribe about surviving in harsh environments is about tolerance. Thank you for sharing your consciousness.

  • @myoung14
    @myoung14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Worked all day with Al and then came home to this gem. Thanks for putting these out there. I've learned a lot about plants and rocks and shit and you sound like my dad so I count it as family time.

  • @lellalytle5085
    @lellalytle5085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't say enough for the knowledge you convey on this channel. Immersive! We cannot keep pushing for "advancement" before we have wisdom!!

  • @brodysantana4254
    @brodysantana4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your voice , & content as a whole .. .helps with my anxiety . Very well .

  • @rubes8065
    @rubes8065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you so much for this video. I was hoping you might discuss this topic and you did! Also, you live such a fun, purposeful life. A salute you. Also I’ve always loved your channel, and I’m a teacher, and if I made my own TH-cam channel, I wish I could call it, “Crime Pays but Being A Teacher Doesn’t.”

  • @JMag1
    @JMag1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite misanthropic botanist. These videos have given me a new appreciation for the natural beauty that surrounds us. Especially the under appreciated plants that comprise such a large part of the landscape yet somehow go completely unnoticed by the masses of bipedal mouthbreathers that trample them underfoot while engaged in their weekend warrior outdoor activities.

  • @StalkerMercenary
    @StalkerMercenary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't know if it'll help at all but I sent an advocation for preservation of these unique plants.

  • @perez1883
    @perez1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🥰😘😍Thank you for this channel. I’ve always loved the desert, but now I’m really looking at plants and identifying them when I’m out and about. It’s very humbling and a great reminder of how insignificant our first world drama really is.

  • @mrjoeusa2002
    @mrjoeusa2002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your knowledge of botany is impressive! Not to mention the geology knowledge you mix in. I thank you for what you do. I will keep watching.

  • @Chadyroo1
    @Chadyroo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Signed and donated to help protect this ecosystem and Eriogonum.

  • @seanc6128
    @seanc6128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not tired of seeing any of it, it's all awesome really. I'm glad I'm not the only one who still gets the Cheers theme song popping in their head.

  • @Wonderhussy
    @Wonderhussy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been following the buckwheat v. ithium standoff and to be honest, I'm kind of on the fence, because I sure do like me my rechargeable devices! But you did such a great job presenting and defending this little plant's right to life...and I love you for getting so passionate about a landscape other people might just write off as a wasteland. Thank you!

  • @Xternal123
    @Xternal123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice man, you gotta save the edaphic specialist! Pretty cool to see stuff thrive where it shouldn't.

  • @joefrancis759
    @joefrancis759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    On the bright side for that tough little buckwheat, it's going to be one of the top candidates for the reclamation spp list and probably will be the propaganda child for the company through a fully funded 'recovery' program that could end up being run by someone who genuinely cares that exponentially increases its population. Yeah, the boardroom sandwiches can be pretty good.

    • @moosetracker88
      @moosetracker88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the bright side is the amount of research that is being infused into this species to figure out how it works. At the end of the day the mine will likely move forward but there won't be many (if any) corners cut. I'm excited to see how it all pans out

  • @amyoconnell3936
    @amyoconnell3936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope I'm not too late, but If like to suggest that these plants are important because they might have something to teach us about management of lithium: ways to recycle it and neutralize is toxicity when discarded. Maybe they will become popular houseplants.

  • @sweetpeabee4983
    @sweetpeabee4983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Learned recently that they apparently also use some lithium-bearing ore minerals in makeup products. They're among the stuff used to replace talc now because of that whole Johnson & Johnson "asbestos-contaminated talc products" shit that happened. Idk if that's a better or worse use of lithium ores than battery tech haha.
    This was cool stuff btw. Learning a lot, ofc, as per usual!

  • @jimhaus
    @jimhaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You said that amaranth name so fast that I thought you were joking! I was shocked when I read that was really the name, lol. Thanks for all you do!

  • @freto_cognito9001
    @freto_cognito9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jeez, stupidly beautiful video my brother. Keep up the amazing work! No seriously, don't ever stop!

  • @arnoldmmbb
    @arnoldmmbb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Already feeling less homicidal just with a new video of this awesome chanel

    • @aepage3165
      @aepage3165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This one just makes me want to direct my homicidal rage more specifically.

  • @vermillionj1
    @vermillionj1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I always learn so much from you! MMA fighters finding rare buckwheat.... Fantastic! Thanks for bringing awareness to this species. So much learned n I'm only ten mins in 😂.

    • @lmpnchi9416
      @lmpnchi9416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @FlyingBalcony
      @FlyingBalcony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sometimes fact are funner than fiction hehe

    • @Emilio-oc6pv
      @Emilio-oc6pv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Tony, you fluent Italiano?

  • @atomicthumbsV2
    @atomicthumbsV2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you've done a video on this. Last year finally got to camp in a camping spot in coyote pass I'd found in 2017, and I got home only to find that they wanted to built an open-pit mine right fucking there AND it was gonna render a rare flower extinct. fucking infuriating!

  • @jillianvanliew
    @jillianvanliew ปีที่แล้ว

    @Tony I'm sure those plants loved your Cheers rendition sung to them!

  • @corvidsam
    @corvidsam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos (in Nevada especially) because they demonstrate the absolutely crazy diversity found in the Mojave and adjacent areas! While these deserts may initially look barren or just scrubby and boring, they have some of the highest plant diversity in the world (iirc)!

  • @Jordan__Sloan
    @Jordan__Sloan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks man for turning me on to plant identification. I always looked for them, just never cared to know the names. I’ve been finding some blooming cacti out here in north eastern New Mexico, nothing like a blooming cacti

  • @Bootsz2010
    @Bootsz2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I value your opinion and you really speak the truth. How would we ever know what was going on out there? You never read about this anywhere I can think of! Thanks!

  • @aquaticaaficionado2004
    @aquaticaaficionado2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that you share the history of botanists as well as the field knowledge. So many in fields of science don't know the shoulders they stand on. Really wish desalination plants would be built and use evaporation fields to collect boron and lithium from what is left after waste water evaporates. Would solve a lot of our problems (freshwater, "rare" earth, and wouldn't increase salination with returned waste water).
    Keep up the great work. +1 on the value systems.

  • @chrisstearns10
    @chrisstearns10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your a living legend Tony!!

  • @taylorjohnson4943
    @taylorjohnson4943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a gem enjoy these tours of interesting habitat.

  • @geelee1977
    @geelee1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for all the money shots. Never tired of the moist fuzzy staminodes ✌️

    • @richardp6461
      @richardp6461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Makes ya want to dry one out and smoke it

  • @hankweiser9859
    @hankweiser9859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I was as intelligent as you are my man. I wasn’t even that interested in plants until I run a crossed your channel, now I’m planting seed and learning to keep plants alive.

  • @nonoluigi
    @nonoluigi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    While the best solution is obviously to preserve the ecological site, I always wonder in your videos whether the proper soil and greenhouse growing conditions of the geologically dependent plants you show us would allow them to live off-site. Is it just about soil or is there more at play? When appropriate, I would love to hear what you know about such strategies relative to the threatened plant being shown, especially since the idea is sure to be the first comment out of the flabby-jowled board members eyeing the deli carte as visions of lithium dollars dance in their heads.

    • @extropiantranshuman
      @extropiantranshuman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I definitely agree - just because they're going to dig underground doesn't mean that the plant species would go extinct!

    • @therealalexjones6369
      @therealalexjones6369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He says numerous times there are other places to mine lithium

    • @therealalexjones6369
      @therealalexjones6369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      greenhouses cause condensation

    • @saoirsecameron
      @saoirsecameron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@extropiantranshuman what part of “open pit mine” escaped you?

    • @extropiantranshuman
      @extropiantranshuman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saoirsecameron the part where they can fill it back when they're done

  • @mr.wookiesack
    @mr.wookiesack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bet the company could protect a couple miles of buckwheat. And then replace the plants after they reclaim the land. Its worth it. We should be tough on the companies and make sure they are cleaning up, and turn it into a reserve after they mine it.

    • @mr.wookiesack
      @mr.wookiesack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Loner Wolf its not worth mining a couple miles of desert and then clean it up? The wildlife lives on the very thin outer layer of the earth not in the minerals beneath it. We have covered huge landfills and made them into mountains. I think we can replant some lithium loving plants. We have regulations and a stable government that can check on their work. Other countries dont have the infrastructure to do that. Its totally worth it! If we dont, another country will mine their resources with no regulations to fill the market causing even more environmental damage.

    • @rgzhaffie
      @rgzhaffie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any shthead who sits on one of these boards should have to qualify first for the position by demonstrating their proficiency at propagating rare native plants.

  • @ryansmiley5495
    @ryansmiley5495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love every bit of knowledge you have. What would you do without plants to enjoy.. I hope we never find out.

  • @jamieellohengee2667
    @jamieellohengee2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The scenery in this video is incredible. I really enjoyed the commentary, too! Thanks for all your hard work!

  • @jakeofallterrains9048
    @jakeofallterrains9048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    32:50 it's so cool to see something similar to what's in my neck of the woods in Appalachia. I recently discovered phlox divaricata on the hillside near my home.

  • @ROTALOT
    @ROTALOT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a sweet tough plant I could cry. I lived across a mile wide dry creek bed from some selenium mud hills. No plants, just big brown selenium wands scattered all over. Maybe something was growing but I never saw it because it looked like a rock.

  • @gammayin3245
    @gammayin3245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exploring the wild lands of Northern Nevada was always exciting when I lived there - 20 plus years. Desert or grasslands have breath-taking beauty whether you like to get close up and photograph the flora or keep a respectable distance and watch the fauna. And like 98% of the time you have that lung-expanding clean air, sunshine and cobalt sky. (Deep breath of sage!!) I came from California and so I always thought that the plants were environmentally stunted versions of the wildflowers I knew in California. I really appreciate your mind-blowing natural history talks. BTW - as we live in a world of spectrum and bell-curved humans, it will take quite some time (likely decades) for all humans to elevate to your knowledge level. Thanks and GFY.

  • @ZacharyRodriguez
    @ZacharyRodriguez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're an outstanding human being. I appreciate you showing me rare fauna in all it's glory while you had the opportunity. Before our country's broken value system takes the opportunity away.

  • @marcdenton2996
    @marcdenton2996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trying to find native Nevada species to plant in my 17.50 acre HOA community. Original landscape planted ‘shit’ that mostly died. Trying to replant ‘water-wise’ desert threatened & unusual plants. Doing somewhat not-so-unauthorized plantings. Digging holes with 5 pound hammer & spade chisel. Great way to learn botany & geology. If I would have had a enthusiastic professor like you I would have stayed in college.

    • @helenpatterson3858
      @helenpatterson3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck recreating the soil content 👌
      Seriously. Good luck.

  • @philiphammar
    @philiphammar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Scandinavian, I wish I could visit a warm desert environment like this one day in my life... seems so nice.

  • @charonsiouxsie949
    @charonsiouxsie949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love it if you would do a piece in South Dakota about a.k.a Paha Sapa, a.k.a Black Hills.
    There's megatons of geology and centuries of medicine in ecosystems that are now my new favorite thing in life, the botany of The Hills, ... But this chunk of planet, it's FOR SALE.
    I ask you for this because I think you might want to document what's left before it's all developed and paved, and national forest service makes safe for human occupation. Black Hills is the center of the universe for some folk, and Mecca for Mt. Rushmore fans, which was named after a lawyer.

  • @brigid89
    @brigid89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always great to hear a naturalist? Ive been west of there visiting the bristlecone pines. Facinating area. Keep up the show .

  • @douglascoleman5588
    @douglascoleman5588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a middle school science class, we started calling each other boron in place of moron. It kind of stuck and I still think it's funny.

  • @senor9786
    @senor9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i almost threw up laughing at the voice mail and woke up my kids laughing and got yelled at by there mother...... give this guy a proper show!!!!!!

  • @Weednaut
    @Weednaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    my lithium ion battery just died watching this lol
    P.S: eye-opening info on some real-real shit, as always

    • @Mobiusquip
      @Mobiusquip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not for decades but yes eventually

  • @thegardenoffragileegos1845
    @thegardenoffragileegos1845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fungus podcast a few weeks ago was really awesome and ahead of others who covered Massaspora.

  • @v8mufflerboy84
    @v8mufflerboy84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Activist investors have just taken seats on the Exxon board, that is a good way to make a difference and be heard.

  • @f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis
    @f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    pretty cool that an mma guy became the curator of a college herbarium

  • @EcoGreensFarm
    @EcoGreensFarm ปีที่แล้ว

    Studying plants that have the ability to thrive in harsh climates seems like a good idea.
    We apes could learn a lot from these lil guys.

  • @BackRoadsWine
    @BackRoadsWine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for laying it all out there big guy.

  • @Bootsz2010
    @Bootsz2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of my favorite videos of yours! 🌞

  • @benjaminastormiscomin3229
    @benjaminastormiscomin3229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Australian native plant breeder recently breeding ariocarpus. I love your shows mate. Wow bro u are great at what u do. Thankyou for your information.

  • @hyperelliptik
    @hyperelliptik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This entire video and your commentary in it makes me think of the unofficial epoch of geologic time, "Anthropocene". Supposedly beginning at around 1950 when humanity and its society started to really *boom*, in terms of affecting the planet's climate and ecosystem. It's interesting to think about, and depressing. "Here we are in the middle of our existential reckoning" - (lyrics from the band Puscifer, pretty good stuff.)

  • @JenniferLupine
    @JenniferLupine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very educational! I hope they denied the mine… this is a special little flower… great close-ups! We have buckwheats in E Wa, near Yakima in the shrub steppe. Thanks for the video!!

  • @adaml102
    @adaml102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been holding this in for too long, botany may not pay but horticulture does.

  • @stillwaterpaiutedecoys5744
    @stillwaterpaiutedecoys5744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Home means Nevada to me” is the state song and the tule duck decoy is the state artifact.

  • @MrChainrule
    @MrChainrule 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Cheers theme cover caught me off guard, bravo!

  • @markchinguz4401
    @markchinguz4401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting journey from mma to botanist

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Would be if it wasn't bullshit but I just made it up because it makes the story more interesting. Arnold Tiehm really is a well-known botanist but never - I am sad to report - had a career in fighting.

    • @markchinguz4401
      @markchinguz4401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt damn, you got me.
      Might explain why you didn't complain about the plants' name
      I thought it was really cool that those things were so different, but also thought that many people have incredibly different interests.

    • @lionscircle4700
      @lionscircle4700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I met Arnold Jerry Tiehm back in the late 80's at a Fugazi concert at the Gilman. He was the doorman at the time and let me in without a concert ticket when I handed him a five spot.

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I ate acid with Jerry Tiehm outside of a megachurch in the suburbs of Phoenix in the early 00s. We thought it'd be funny to go inside while "tripping balls" during their Friday service because that's when they have the band play and everybody holds their hands up with their eyes closed while screaming "our god is a sexy god" but we ended up getting locked inside after closing, setting off the burglar alarms at 3 in the morning while we were fucking around chasing each other with fire extinguishers and laughing our asses off. I don't know how we didn't get arrested that night.

    • @markchinguz4401
      @markchinguz4401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I started a death metal band with arnold robertus jerry tiehm. It started out great and we were getting more and more well known. But he started getting absolutely wasted on cheap whiskey every time we'd play a show. He'd vomit all over the stage and said that's what made his vocals so good.
      We disbanded after a while because nobody would book us anymore. He changed his name, and now he has a late night talk show called Jimmy Kimmel.
      Edit: he and I shared my wife at our wedding night. 9 months later, she gave birth to a beautiful baby boy, we are both blond and the boy has dark hair. But I raised him as my own

  • @ritawatermann1327
    @ritawatermann1327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank-you for recording these beautiful specimens before they get wiped off the face of the map. Humans......sigh ☹️

  • @blankregistration7301
    @blankregistration7301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was this this many days old before I had even thought of someone exposing themselves to a game camera. thanks!

  • @hxctalent
    @hxctalent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you safe/uploading after what happened yesterday in San Jose.

  • @ravedge7042
    @ravedge7042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro I love your shit...I have learned more from your channel about ANYTHING that I learned in school. Keep it up buddy!

  • @brendosapien
    @brendosapien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems like these plants might be natural concentrators of these 'precious' elements, how many wars could we not fight in order to afford to research deeper into phytomining with these kinds of extremophiles (as opposed to blowing up the area and making a mechanical mine)?

  • @yvc9
    @yvc9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never disappoints. One of the best channel on TH-cam

  • @tlaloc4kids
    @tlaloc4kids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    41:23 is absolutely a money shot, holy shit

  • @quantumskittles
    @quantumskittles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not even a little tired of ur money shots 💜

  • @bitnertinkers
    @bitnertinkers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your videos!

  • @terrymiller2088
    @terrymiller2088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of closeup money shots almost dazzeling informative laconic narrative field botany at its best thanks Tony

  • @BongRipBing
    @BongRipBing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Around 18:25, Joey talks about the intricacies of Plant Self-Love, aka GFM.

  • @Bootsz2010
    @Bootsz2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    You definitely should do documentaries! Wait a minute, you already do! You rock

  • @Totalinternalreflection
    @Totalinternalreflection 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah lithium, that reminds me to take my meds.

  • @slocoast5
    @slocoast5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🐕 “He was just on a zoom call with his therapist” 😂
    i Love to kill time watching and learning on this channel.

  • @danman4300
    @danman4300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your channel keep it up brother

  • @michaelnancyamsden7410
    @michaelnancyamsden7410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Catching you enthusiasm for the adaptive plants. Do not understand why it is one or other but not both. The mine co could hire Tony as a consultant to protect the plant by the mine. Then show how good stewards the are. Both...

  • @triciaroy
    @triciaroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That detail about the flowers retreating back in order to self-pollinate reminds me of the immortal jellyfish that reverts back to an earlier stage of development if threatened, thus ensuring its regeneration. So fascinating.

  • @DaddyBlueJay3207
    @DaddyBlueJay3207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re videos always make me feel better