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  • @samrooney6905
    @samrooney6905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    As much as @crimepaysbutbotanydoesn't touches and fingers flowers and plants he should be technically classified as a pollinator at this point

    • @kamikaze2613
      @kamikaze2613 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s probably accidentally made hybrids of insane species from around the world the amount he seems to get around

  • @Dude_Diligence
    @Dude_Diligence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    The shit you put yourself through for us dude. We love you, but damn.

  • @nicolasflamel8969
    @nicolasflamel8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Ah, the sacrifices this man makes to bring us quality content.

  • @TheLeon1032
    @TheLeon1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    man this channel really sorts my shit out sometimes, feels like home or something, hey from england

  • @jeanettecooper1582
    @jeanettecooper1582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    If I could afford to travel I would be wandering around checking out the plants and rocks . Thank you for the armchair vacations and for answering so many of the questions I would have if I was there myself .

  • @TheStumped19
    @TheStumped19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Cops been busting my shit up. Thanks for lifting my spirits. Your the only person I can watch to learn scientific names without falling asleep,

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sometimes I fall asleep, but only when I’m staying up waaay too late watching these.

    • @catfission
      @catfission 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ACAB homie, those pigs can stick it.

    • @flimflam6652
      @flimflam6652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@catfission ACAB until shit changes or I die.

    • @Wilson_the_Mannequin
      @Wilson_the_Mannequin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@catfission Antifa Communists Are Braindead

    • @catfission
      @catfission 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Wilson_the_Mannequin lol

  • @autodidactic
    @autodidactic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    you're still handsome, homie, thanks for bringing us the REAL botany

    • @viagra5207
      @viagra5207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no homo

    • @brianc385
      @brianc385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@viagra5207 maybe a little

    • @flimflam6652
      @flimflam6652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@viagra5207 Fuck that, kiss a homie.

    • @chroniccare409
      @chroniccare409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@flimflam6652 awe

    • @dinofearme1
      @dinofearme1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@brianc385 ha yea wasn’t expecting him to be so young. I watch these videos and this is the first time I’ve seen his face. Hubba hubba

  • @science_and_anonymous
    @science_and_anonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Best thing ever to watch with a 102° fever! Let's beat this with plant education!

    • @thesilentone4024
      @thesilentone4024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha mine 99 and my throat hurts thats it I can eat and drink like normal but got a sore throat lol

    • @AGDinCA
      @AGDinCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh no! COVID? Whatever it is, I hope you get well soon!

    • @AGDinCA
      @AGDinCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesilentone4024 Oh, and you, too? COVID? I hope not. Regardless, I hope you get better quickly!

    • @integralboy
      @integralboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ☺️🔋☺️☺️

    • @smellycat249
      @smellycat249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Work is the best thing to break a fever. So get to it.

  • @LauraCourtneyette
    @LauraCourtneyette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Been there - in the eye too. No fun. Walked around muttering ‘I am not an animal’ for a week. Wishing you a speedy recovery.

  • @wyattlulei6082
    @wyattlulei6082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You honestly sound like a master of a trade, botany and plant genetics, I wish more people like you existed, so people like me could still have the potential to learn under a master of a trade, I love your channel, I really hope I can get to your level of mastery one day

    • @angelaengler2387
      @angelaengler2387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you truly wish for that knowledge work hard to attain it, you could be awesome like Tony!

    • @Yosef9438
      @Yosef9438 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also of dogs. Watching that little black and white one act mad and pretend he wasn't in love with Tony was hilarious.

  • @MrBalaki97
    @MrBalaki97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these videos you make me happy when you show your enthusiasm and botany videos with a hint of mafia

  • @TorusCloud
    @TorusCloud 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love that you refer to plants and other animal species as "someones"; it's very respectful and understanding of the true nature of other life forms

  • @marinakukso
    @marinakukso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    we've got loads of those same dicranopteris ferns here on hawai'i island. they are called uluhe here. at first i thought they were smothering everything, but actually they make great leaf litter under themselves, provide shady areas underneath for young ohi'a & other plants, & keep weeds & other invasives from popping up. so now i love them! ^-^

  • @katiekane5247
    @katiekane5247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My man, I so feel ya! One time, I had this vicious burn start inside my left elbow. Took benedryl shot etc. Took me a few days to realize I had carried a wooden shovel handle in the crook of my arm & it had laid in poison ivy.
    Your sacrifice for our enjoyment is appreciated!

  • @alonzodiazrosario1867
    @alonzodiazrosario1867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your are in my country, thanks for coming

  • @SamCooler
    @SamCooler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    this is so beautiful, I would love if it were in 4K, so I could freeze-frame and really study the shapes. Thank you for bringing us this content!

  • @AlejandraGarcia-yb8bj
    @AlejandraGarcia-yb8bj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Oh no!! Here’s to a speedy recovery!

  • @boomerhooked8115
    @boomerhooked8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What this man does for us to learn all this wonderful plant botany

  • @michaelr5545
    @michaelr5545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You make nerding out on plants so much more fun! You got me cracking up over here !

  • @lulumoon6942
    @lulumoon6942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ✌️❤️ Tony, you are a rare honest, precious asset to this world. Thank you for sharing your time, talent, and curiosity. I have no doubt you have expanded minds and healed hearts. 🙏🌈

  • @mynamejeff3545
    @mynamejeff3545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Damn, man, that must hurt. A grim reminder to all botanists that one day, our habits of touching, smelling or eating random plants might catch up to us. I once made the mistake of eating crack-in-the-pavement-lettuce, and the results were not pretty. Happens to the best of us. Get well soon!

  • @bobsiddoway
    @bobsiddoway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Gnarly, man! Plant rocked ya’!

  • @BeardedWorm
    @BeardedWorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First video from your channel I see. I love everything about this! The name of the channel, your sense of humor and that accent :)). And most of all, the information. I wish I'll someday find my way to a cloud forest 😍

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wish you a speedy recovery

  • @Baal_yeet
    @Baal_yeet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your crass botany warms my profane horticultural heart.

  • @noahdacheese839
    @noahdacheese839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your energy is infectious, and I love how incredibly knowledgeable you are. It feels like every plant you see you know, as unassuming as you are. It's wonderful. I've found a gem of a channel man, keep on keeping on

  • @nikkitronic80
    @nikkitronic80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    GEOLOGY TOO?!?!!!! I love this man ❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️

  • @HLBear
    @HLBear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Favorite, the lichen that looks like an anemone. Wow, that was cool.
    Runner-up: the scaley fern. Just gorgeous.
    Thanks for taking us along.

  • @chrisbriden
    @chrisbriden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks man for your videos. I had a heart attack last month and had bypass surgery. During my recovery I had your videos on while I walked back and forth in my apartment. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to hike again but, until then, I'll be watching your videos. Sorry for being so fucking cheesy.

  • @damonroberts7372
    @damonroberts7372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery! Edit: love your _Sequoiadendron_ tattoo!

  • @audreyfrye929
    @audreyfrye929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just have to take a moment to tell you , I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You are the best!

  • @Nobody-cw4wm
    @Nobody-cw4wm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a trooper.... A1 mate. Takes one for the team!

  • @element4studios
    @element4studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Came for the plants, stuck around and got doggoes. 100% quality content! Ya got the Popeye look going on with that eye situation there. Hang in there man!

  • @Autumn-hu9sx
    @Autumn-hu9sx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shit!! I didn't read the screen at the beginning so when I first saw you I thought someone must've decked you 😭😂 "You oughta see the other guy" except the 'other guy' is a plant and some floss lol! Hey, eye swollen and a missing tooth and still way too fuckin handsome. Cheers

  • @pamappleby1400
    @pamappleby1400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was a banger- love the cloud forest.

  • @flimflam6652
    @flimflam6652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Did you get something out of that, did you have a nice time?"
    Oh HELL yeah I did. Thank you so much, all these are so beautiful. Especially those Melastomataceae. Their leaves' venation and red stems are beyond gorgeous!

  • @peterinbrat
    @peterinbrat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I knew a guy who got pencil tree sap on his hand then rubbed his eyes. Swelled up for three days. The island has all kinds of dangerous plants and trees. And the wasps are aggressive.

    • @Dockhead
      @Dockhead 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haseo8244 too bad its nat the euphoria family ama right?

  • @rolanddane5015
    @rolanddane5015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for another good video, and the conversation with the dogs at the end of the video was key. It increased overall information retention levels by 40%, easy! Respect 👊

  • @KarmaCadet
    @KarmaCadet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always feel better after watching your hikes. Being stuck in a tiny room for months on end kinda drains the soul, but watching these videos is like a breath of fresh air. Beautiful video!

  • @nancynickerson4341
    @nancynickerson4341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Imagine what the early botanical explorers must have encountered.
    They wouldn't have known about the local occupational hazards!

  • @cartilagehead6326
    @cartilagehead6326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I blinded myself in one eye for a week like that maybe two months ago being sloppy with euphorbia repotting. I had to phone in to all of my zoom meetings because I looked completely awful, and I couldn’t even look at a screen without a dark eyepatch on

  • @jhiggs4933
    @jhiggs4933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lol. Ive got a crown to get glued back in. Damn flossing pulled it out

  • @herbbirdsfoot
    @herbbirdsfoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ve seen a lot of pinguicula but that’s an uncommon one for sure. The UC Berkeley Bot Garden has some nice pings for sale at the moment PLUS it’s a bangin’ time of year for the bulbs on the South African hill and the rhodies. Check it out! It was carns and the spring blooms at the Bot Garden that turned me into the plant freak that I am today.

  • @AxialTangent
    @AxialTangent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for all your excruciating your field work I love every single video you make more than anything else on youtube

  • @lpg3va
    @lpg3va 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i LOVE watching these chill walks in the forests. Reminds me of walks with my friends

  • @JakeSmith-ps4vr
    @JakeSmith-ps4vr 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't think I've ever laughed harder. Tony deserves an emme for that intro!!!😂

    • @The_Crucible714
      @The_Crucible714 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And his description of the forest; “everything’s just danglin’ an drippin’…!”
      😮 😂

  • @patricksweetman3285
    @patricksweetman3285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the umpteenth time, Tony, I wished that your show was in stereo. In virtual reality. With smell-o-vision. But you can keep the heat and humidity.

  • @ohmyblindman
    @ohmyblindman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Now would have been a good time for a tattoo tour of your body, along with the corresponding stories. Someday.

    • @Montino4Ever
      @Montino4Ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      For a guy with good narration you know he could explain the shit outa those tattoos

    • @jessecronnolly7781
      @jessecronnolly7781 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agreeeee

  • @Yournamehere366
    @Yournamehere366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I fucking love this guy!! Where have you been all my life?? Love the content, hope the swelling subsides quickly. Thanks for being awesome!

  • @truvelocity
    @truvelocity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I learned so many new things today. Thank you for doing what you do.

  • @weatheranddarkness
    @weatheranddarkness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that lichen is one of the coolest things I've seen! 18:40

  • @sazji
    @sazji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was an amazing episode, and how exciting to see P. casabitoana in habitat. Too bad it’s not an easier one to cultivate; if it were it would soon be all over and there would be little motive to poach them.

  • @DISTR4CK
    @DISTR4CK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those botany tattoos are the coolest tattoos.

  • @patrickgarner
    @patrickgarner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I laughed on and off the whole way through your video. You had me at plants smelling good like the lotions sold by Etsy witches. I know nothing about botany but you make it interesting. This channel is a hidden gem. "I love you you fuck." Stay beautiful.

  • @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
    @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heard a car alarm.. Oh nope that's out MY window... 🤣Adds to the atmosphere 🙄🦋

  • @michelleroxy21
    @michelleroxy21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your personality, appreciation, and knowledge of plants makes me feel a certain type of way. 😏 Even with one eye swollen shut and a missing crown I’m still swooning. Wish more guys had your heart for the simple things 🥰🪴 if you ever end up in wisconsin/Michigan we should go for a hike. Different terrain, so much I could learn from you. No innuendo intended.. but also not-not intended, if ya know what I mean. 🙃😝😬🥵

  • @Ok-vj3dw
    @Ok-vj3dw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the extra realness in this one

  • @Titus-as-the-Roman
    @Titus-as-the-Roman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    100% Truth. As a youth in the late 60's, early 70's I would mow yards and do whatever yard cleanup needed (Pre-string trimmers), for extra money in the summer. That's when I discovered I had a Super Power which increased my income 3 fold. I found I could literally wallow in Poison Ivy without any ill effect (a very few water blisters here and there). Lived in an area prevalent with Poison Ivy usually in fence rows, word got around that I was good at clearing out this stuff.

  • @michaelsage6649
    @michaelsage6649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keeping me sane you SOB. Gratitude.

  • @TheMegaPear
    @TheMegaPear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your videos are educational antidepressants

  • @user-ez3iv6ji5c
    @user-ez3iv6ji5c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Digging that shoulder tattoo!

  • @RenzitoARG
    @RenzitoARG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just spent 1 hour of my time watching a dude describing plants I'll never see in my life, because they are endogenous.
    And now I'm subscribing, waiting for the next one. I loved that content.

  • @Takokujin07
    @Takokujin07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holy shit it’s the country I was born in! I miss it, I wanna go visit again. I loved this video, you’re so entertaining and silly and informative!

  • @blackpepperboy
    @blackpepperboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After this pandemic, hope we could see you explore philippine forest especially the pygmy "bonzai" forest of davao philippines. 😎 you're so cool and very informative!

  • @arthurlouis8326
    @arthurlouis8326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I 'm glad you went to my island. I get to see a lot of plants I used to walk by during my childhood

  • @belindarosenheim2322
    @belindarosenheim2322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having a nice time. Thanks🤗

  • @charonsiouxsie949
    @charonsiouxsie949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for a safe place in the nature that's left

  • @selgoops
    @selgoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Malvaceous Bastard' is easily my favorite phrase, and I need it on a sticker/shirt/hat/panties you name it

  • @davidbarts6144
    @davidbarts6144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anacardiaceae is one of my favorite plant families, just because of its Jekyll/Hyde nature. Both plants that are edible, and plants that give you a nasty rash. (And some are one and the same, like cashews.)

  • @AZ-74
    @AZ-74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for entertaining us with your educational content and get well soon

  • @questartstudio9526
    @questartstudio9526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this shit came on at midnight and i fucking stayed up to watch the damn thing despite work in the morning and i saved the fucking video so i could watch more when i got back. you know your shit and you fucking get it. i cant wait to watch these videos while I'm painting too. keep em coming

  • @HumanFellaPerson
    @HumanFellaPerson ปีที่แล้ว

    You're such a rad dude! Love all your content! Thank you!

  • @rnedisc
    @rnedisc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Few videos ago I was actually thinking, the way he's touching everything it's a matter of time before he starts grabbing hand fulls of random Urticaceaes or hogweeds or something. Be careful!

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Especially with the hogweed. That stuff is much nastier than urushiol. It remains in the skin for a long time and makes you allergic to sunlight, leading to blisters.

  • @tuffymartinez
    @tuffymartinez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just want to say THANK YOU!!!!!!.....I watch, I try to understand, I try to absorb all the fascinating info you continually present....Soooo I watch again and mouth the words hoping I will remember....This is a continual effort of watching, rewinding, repeating....My old fu&$ing brain is doing pretty good for what it is...I shall continue to practice....Again thank you for all you do.....TM

  • @brandondishman3955
    @brandondishman3955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't you have your own show? Holy Moly how entertaining and educational.

  • @carniflor
    @carniflor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mesmerizing channel!
    Really love the P. casabotiana for this episode.

  • @marvindcat
    @marvindcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m SO in love with this guy’s voice!!!

  • @saml7610
    @saml7610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Tony, you're gorgeous, even with that horrific swollen eyeball. Look at the bright side, at least you're not crying blood! Also, for what it's worth, some dogs can get seriously fucked up from avocados. I think it's an anti-fungal substance called persin that does them dirty, and you can't know from lookin' at em. I had a friend who lost his dog to an adverse avocado reaction, it was a Shiba Inu. It's still 99% safe, but I'd start em with a small piece and go from there. The reaction is pretty quick. The real problems come from them eating the pits or the skins - a lot more persin in those parts. The flesh should be safe for anything other than tiny rat dogs.

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah I just gave em some on a cracker cause it was all I had. Most of the persin is in the leaves and skin. Thanks for the heads up though.

    • @saml7610
      @saml7610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Yeah I figured you'd know, I was more posting for the benefit of others perusing the comments. That cladonia is fucking awesome, by the way, coolest looking cladonia I've ever seen, verging on reindeer lichen territory of coolness. I can't find the species in any of my keys, and I have one for the Caribbean!

  • @cgriggsiv
    @cgriggsiv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm sorry dude that you're having a rough time right now when it rains it pours and a lot of times life will s*** on your head or take a piss on it whatever hell it wants
    Love your TH-cam take it easy and happy Easter to you and get well soon with all that crap that's going on

  • @stickfinderz
    @stickfinderz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "ya gotta crack a couple eggs" 😂 love the spirit

  • @GRIFFIN2082
    @GRIFFIN2082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    goddamn I just hope to live my life in a way that would make this guy happy to have me in his demographic.

  • @chooton5113
    @chooton5113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brother I am in awe your knowledge!

  • @ROKASniper89
    @ROKASniper89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As many have stated before. We greatly appreciate what you do. Please take care of yourself out there. Took your advice and killed my lawn. Letting nature do its thing

  • @pierre-alexandreclement7831
    @pierre-alexandreclement7831 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤❤ for the painfull work you have done for us

  • @ciwanski
    @ciwanski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Feel better man.

  • @austindelorenzo4486
    @austindelorenzo4486 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a good time watching this on my night audit :)

  • @thehiddenshaman4371
    @thehiddenshaman4371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so inspired to continue my creeping around the mountains I live in. Life is bleak but the beauty is unmatched! Much love!

  • @barbarabroeske1061
    @barbarabroeske1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Joey. Be CAREFUL, ok?

  • @MsVan13
    @MsVan13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how you say things. Stream of consciousness. Keep teaching us. Thank you.

  • @jjrichards1099
    @jjrichards1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i did have a nice time watching! coincidentally i started reading up on - and getting obsessed with - cloud forests right before you started showing them 'round so i thoroughly enjoyed the botany, and your usual misanthropic ramblings and misery with that rash gave me a hearty chuckle (hope you don't take offense with that). good vid, plant man.

  • @bullhunter45
    @bullhunter45 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Live in Costa Rica and this is very informative!! Thanks

  • @natepenn9112
    @natepenn9112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got urushiol in my left eye once as well! It swelled shut for three days and I looked like sloth from the goonies. Some of the concentrated urushiol beaded up on my arm and left a scar as well. I feel your pain and thanks for your suffering to bring us those money shots.

  • @dpetty3461
    @dpetty3461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More please on lichens and Lentabulariaceae.

  • @rickberry5740
    @rickberry5740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't know the last time I had so much fun with just another dude;)

  • @OrionsMako
    @OrionsMako 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of your better episodes. Stay positive....hahaha!

  • @salamilid7615
    @salamilid7615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never have I heard someone say they're glad to have been stung by a wasp

  • @dakellymon
    @dakellymon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a great time. I love to see these places I'll most likely never get to see myself.

  • @danlehman1895
    @danlehman1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my favorite video you've made so far

  • @nadiamunday8351
    @nadiamunday8351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learnt a lot from you thank you

  • @chimichanga4247
    @chimichanga4247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the tooth just completes the boxer look