Plutonic Lifestyles of Filthy Mycologists - A Baja California Geology & Fungal Primer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- A brutally-long 53 minute video on mycorrhizal relationships of the Southern Part of the California Floristic Province, not for the Tiktok generation.
What is a pluton and why are oak groves good places to look for mushroom diversity? In this episode of Crime Pays we head to the Sky Islands of Baja California, Mexico to check out what plants and fungi are growing on the intrusive igneous substrate in the San Pedro Martir foothills and forests.
3 or 4 different species of Cortinarius,
3 different species of Lactarius,
Hygrophorus associating with Ponderosa Pine,
Ornithostaphylos oppositifolia (Ericaceae)
Garrya grisea (Garryaceae)
Arctostaphylos glandulosa (Ericaceae)
Arctostaphylos peninsularis
Quercus agrifolia
Lupinus hirsutissimus
last video segment is of the incredibly illustrious Eriodictyon sessilifolium
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Thanks, GFY.
Most people don't know that a big part of botany is plant identification at 60 miles an hour, without crashing your car. A real skill.
Hey Joey,
Joey here!
I really enjoyed this video, I like when you have collaborations with Alan because it's like the best of both worlds with the two of you together.
I hope you do more videos with Alan in the future.
Have a wonderful day. 💚🌿💯
A bucket full of sugar helps the phylogenetic taxonomy go down as they say!! Love the exuberance of the explanations, best thing on TH-cam x great work man as always
Hide the education as you would a pill in a hot dog when trying to administer medication to a dog
4:11 "We found some mushrooms, so we're going to be here for a minute." Incredible
OMG a shout out AND Formica integroideds*? And they are doing their classic late winter/early spring "heat harvesting" behavior. In the colder months the ground has become cold, so even though they build these big nests out of piles of sticks (in pine forests their cousins make meter high piles of needles... they are a kind of "wood ant" found in many variations...) but despite their heat retaining and sometimes composting massive nest pile by this time of year it's a bit cold in the ground. The sun is shining. So the ants transfer warmth to the nest by sitting in the sun until they are warm then going into the nest until they are cold. Over and over, slowly building up heat.
I bet there are all kinds of fungi and who knows what else that grow in those nests. It's a whole ecosystem tended by ants for the purpose of climate control... so that they can make more ants! They are mutulaists with like six different aphids.
*I'm using their location and nest shape for the species ID. That and their fuzzy little gasters. Interesting that they are in a more arid location. Like 80 percent certain. Lotta black and red ants out there and that's a species hot spot.
You're a smartie pants- Whether or not this is true, I live for exploratory analysis like this. I like it.
that was a really cool moment :D
Wow that's fascinating!
*integroides (spelling, no ID confirmation)
It surprises me to see mushrooms in places that seem much drier. Thanks so much for taking us on these adventures!
It's wet season there. There will be mushrooms for very few days.
Once, during the pandemic, I half watched a whole bunch of videos about wild foraging stinging nettle leaves for a salad. Ate them… and then… a while after collapsing… finished reading or watching anything and learned you have to cook it first🎉
"It tastes like burning!"
So much exploration! I had no idea there would be so many different mushrooms in that area.
I'm impressed that Alan's knowledge is complementary to yours. Love the extra layer of immersion.
The only thing missing, smell-o-vision! 🍀✌️😎
"Oh yeah, this will make an AMAZING placebo!"
you got some of the best Al's in your crew!!
dear joey,
watching you guys dig out those little cortinarius caps made my week. my jaw dropped and my eyes widened on seeing the small differences between cortinariuses
i think i re watched the middle part through three times since getting home from my shitty delivery job
The only content creator who actually talks about the glands...
Ahh🙏🙏🙏🙏
jeez. love the way Alan recognized there was a prime specimen underneath some leaf detritus. what a gangsta.
Love all your vids but the ones with Alan are simply the best! He is an incredible source of knowledge.
Hey Tony, just want to say I absolutely love the Crime Pays channel, and if you ever want to come look at some fun shit in Alberta, I'll recommend a couple of places whose ecology you might find interesting:
1. Slack Slough, a beautiful aspen parkland wetland south of Red Deer (AKA the City of Dead Deer), hugely important for migratory/wetland birds, also has fun flowers and shit. It also recently got 100-something acres added onto it on the less-protected side, so no shitty urban development will wreck it, at least until Red Deer's population is bloated even more.
2. Writing-On-Stone National Park is really weird and has tons of Opuntias (humifusa, fragilis) and also Yucca Glauca and other weird grassland and badland plants in the sagebrush and shortgrass prairies there.
3. Gaetz Lakes/MacKenzie Trails parks in the city of Dead Deer, transitional ecosystem where Picea Glauca grow on shit soil and the forest floor under them has feather mosses and other boreal forest plants but also that transitions to Populus Tremuloides/Balsamifera forests, and the mixedwood understory is pretty amazingly biodiverse. Just some suggestions, and if you want some cool seeds and shit I can give you some if you come here. Best of luck in your life and hope you can keep enlightening the victims of anthropocentrism to the fullest of your abilities. Thanks for giving me hope about the world and have a fucking great day!
Love when you’re hangin with Alan
Named my DND wildfire druid Rhus Ovata :) Also just poured a bunch of boiled water and liquid smoke to try and germinate some Arctostaphylos! Love to see Alan with the assist on the mushrooms, cheers yall
I like when you know and say how old trees are.
Sublime plant community. Thanks for sharing 👍
47:34 these are growing/dying under a cul-de-sac lawn (along with almost 10 other speices) in S.D. near me .. good to know that they're surviving somewhere
Thank you. Enjoyed seeing the plants I grew up with in the chaparral of Southern California named in a TH-cam video, instead of just a book. And I was pronouncing Chamise (Adenostoma fasciculatum) wrong. 😅 Yeah, the smells of these plants are one of the best aspects. Also fascinating to see all these varieties of mycorrhizal fungi growing under the live oaks, etc.
i used to live in memphis tn. crepe myrtles are absolutely everywhere. granted, they are made for a memphis climate (a jungle fucking a swamp). they make great walking stick tho. really beautiful white wood under the bark that, when sanded, looks like bone.
I love when Allan finds things!❤
As always thank you for the awesome videos. I learn so much.
I love Artemisia tridentata, I can’t believe anyone doesn’t love the scent. I regularly see shiras moose use the foliage for browse in the winter, and greater sage grouse eat the foliage year round amazingly, I tried some before just to see what it would taste like… very similar to thyme, but about 100 times stronger. definitely gonna stick to just smelling it and planting it in gardens. I also regularly see galls on it here in Wyoming, but they never look like that, wonder what that gall belongs too.
If you ever have a chance to go to Guadeloupe Island, kinda interesting ancient plant species
I just found your channel and clicked on the link to your store. Best merch ever!
🎉hi bro love your videos they make my day ❤❤❤
Great video Joey! So cool you came to Baja California and showed some of the diveristy around here. Arctostaphylos is chopped because they use it in taquerias and ranches to roast the meat. It's such a stupid idea. Anyways, greetings from Ensenada, B.C. Loved the video
Same here.
Can't believe how good this is.
Can confirm that the relationships of rock nerds are all plutonic.
Don't take those relationships for granite
It's set in Stone
Most geologists are gneiss
Plutonic igneous intrusions.
A gneiss plutonic relationship 😊
It's cool to see you guys collab :D
lol. I adore the sincerity of "oh yeah this is an amazing placebo." lol
Very interesting topography and variety of plants!
Great video. I like listening to highly knowledgeable people. Also, I like how Joey pronounces 'wax'.
As a furry I’m sorry for your experience, just letting you know some of us still love ya!
Can confirm.
As a long time furry, I agree.
If I lived in Arizona or Southern California, I would definitely have me some of that _Rhus ovata_ and one of those _A. glandulosa_
Thanks for another bomber video! Too many great lines to keep track of laughed my ass off!
I didn't know I needed Boragenacious Bangers with Scorpiod Cymes featuring a flourescent Cortinarius & star-shaped Basidiomycetes, but how was I to know?
Great stuff,Thanks!
This is very rapidly becoming my favorite channel
Have you written a book? I’d buy a native California plants book from you in a heartbeat.
Ditto! I moved here from living on the east coast most of my life and there’s so much for me to learn to catch up to my east coast knowledge - I feel like I’d learn the most from a book by him!
Yes, and the Midwest Prairie, too!
This IS the book, price is zero, no trees cut down, no moldy tome to landfill in a couple decades.
I believe he is writing a book right now, he has been talking about it on his podcast
I cackled at "Oh, yeah, this is an amazing placebo"
Both of y’all have very distinct voices and very deep insights. I love the combo
Another winner!! Thanks Joey and Allan
Dope, similar fungi found in cuyamaca rancho state park probably based off the similar ECM plant associations. I didn’t know that cypress was not ECM but the duff is eaten by saprottrophic fungi. I’ve seen some unique mushrooms growing in otay mountain near Tecate cypress.
Cypress produce some pretty intense resins and secondary metabolites so to be able to eat them (if you are a fungus) probably requires some unique enzymes
At around 8:45 in the video, this apparent fern was pointed out but not labeled,
I absolutely love ferns, and ive tried looking up zerich fern or palea but i cant find any that match the one he points out.
Can someone please help me
It's there a pre-order for the Touch my Gomphus calendar?
Those Fluorescent mushrooms have an amazing glow🍄🍄🟫⭐️
I can smell the sage brush thru my fone.
Oh damn, kickin' it with Alan Rockefeller... well done dude!
I've never had a problem with glocids with any of my opuntias. Might be worth noting that I cut my teeth on echeverias and graptos and stuff so I know better than to touch my plants without tweezers.
18:37 "Great tree for illegal planting", as indicated by the name illicit-folia
Alan!
There is a Baja birchwood in some canyons by the highway South of San Quintin Baja
Do you ever visit the Rockies? I love your videos no matter where your at.
Tx ? You from Tx? I grew up in the DFW area. I moved to Co last summer.
"Crepe myrtle should be banned." My gf said that exact sentence just last week.
Botanical adventures at their raw unfiltered best. Had a blue dog myself back in the day. They really are special dogs.
36:42 "what are they doin in there?" Lmao was Alan doing an impression of you there. That's great.
Awesome
32:30 You probably know this but some species of edible Matsutake are an expensive delicacy in Japanese cuisine, and I think you can just grate a small amount on top of soups? I love Japanese food so if I lived anywhere near the Pacific Northwest and was knowledgeable enough on mushrooms not to accidentally poison myself I'd be hunting all over for them
I would be checking out contact zones between that low-grade cooked sedimentary stuff and the felsic intrusive. Probably some interesting mineralization, maybe intrusive-associated hydrothermal stuff. If there's carbonate rock around there, could be skarns.
If you can tell me what caused the metamorphic action in Eastern Guanajuato that turned all the limestone to marble I will be really impressed
@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt- From a cursory investigation, the geology looks super complicated there. Are these outcrops part of the Esperanza formation? ... if so, appears to be a clusterfuck tectonic pile thereabouts. Maybe the marble is exhumed underplating.
I think you had a basin that closed there when a big-ass terrane accreted, with a bunch of felsic submarine volcanics -- I found mention of volcanogenic massive sulfides in the area -- so I guess there also could have been contact metamorphism.
Failed to impress, no doubt. I'm a mere geology enthusiast, sadly.
i go to San Felipe every year, might drop by this place on may 24
Are there other natives you might recommend for wild gardening that aren't fire dependent for a home in wildfire country?
Are fire dependent plants more easily ignited?
Forgive my ignorance.
Check with your local county agriculture extension
I found lots of earthstar mushrooms in a graveyard i recently visited - all out in the open.
Maintained his stature
How long ago was the burn?
Can I assume these plants ancestors had what it takes to take over wet, cooling, volcanic areas of earth, back in the day?
White abaxial, nice
Love the urine gardens. Is there a highway not to far away.
MORE!!!!
Where do I get a Baja birdbush or seeds or whatever?
Trespassing some government land and avoiding border patrols.
That person does mycology really good 💐
Alan Rockefeller
"Indeed when many of us pass on yonder, we'll bake in the sun and turn to dust and blow away. Just like a dog turd." - Joey Santore
These guys are the Jamie Heineman and Adam Savage of the plant world
_All_ _Agrocybe_ are edible? Even that _Agrocybe praecox_ group? ... those things fruit in every park here in Portland in the spring (and fall, pretty sure), in huge flushes.
OOH this one is about me, exciting
watching this instead of my poli sci paper :)
what books can I buy to go out and start identifying and learning about different plants? If you were going to travel to a new area and learn about new plants what are some of the best resources?
Botany in a day by Elpel and Plat Systematics by Simpson
How does pulling up the fruiting body affect the fungi's ability to spread spores? I figure they're pretty long lived and you're not dredging the whole forest looking for things to sell to the local upscale supermarket, so pretty limited impact in the long term? Just a passing thought.
It does nothing but benefit it. It doesn't harm the fungus that produced the mushroom at all
25:20 💖 Ant nerds: please share your wisdom!
@myrmepropagandist did her reply now, copied below for your sake:
"OMG a shout out AND Formica integroideds*? And they are doing their classic late winter/early spring "heat harvesting" behavior. In the colder months the ground has become cold, so even though they build these big nests out of piles of sticks (in pine forests their cousins make meter high piles of needles... they are a kind of "wood ant" found in many variations...) but despite their heat retaining and sometimes composting massive nest pile by this time of year it's a bit cold in the ground. The sun is shining. So the ants transfer warmth to the nest by sitting in the sun until they are warm then going into the nest until they are cold. Over and over, slowly building up heat.
I bet there are all kinds of fungi and who knows what else that grow in those nests. It's a whole ecosystem tended by ants for the purpose of climate control... so that they can make more ants! They are mutulaists with like six different aphids.
*I'm using their location and nest shape for the species ID. That and their fuzzy little gasters. Interesting that they are in a more arid location. Like 80 percent certain. Lotta black and red ants out there and that's a species hot spot."
*her. :) I'm an ant girl not an ant boy LOL. @
@@myrmepropagandist I corrected my comment.
Thank you for your contributions. 👍
26:04 why tf arent we using this instead of arctostaphylos densiflora ‘howard mcminn’
Share your thoughts on Crape Myrtles. Occasionally see a big one allowed to get size and not murdered. Seriously overused horticultural atrocity. I get frustrated with people who can't see the beauty in natives. There's room for ornamentals if not invasive and over used but the older I get, the more I depend on natives for low maintenance.
I agree 100% but it's amazing how indifferent many are to any plants native or not. To know the natives is to love them but people need to be educated.
@@pier6976I just don't get why people move somewhere they find interesting and then proceed to remove all the natives and plant crap that doesn't belong there. Bad here north of Atlanta. The horticulture industry is mostly to blame.
Nice
Really enjoy your videos, though sometimes the change of accents can make my head spin 😂
Keep it high and tight y'all.
19:28 [to the tune of Pop Lock n Drop It] "Barbed spines and glaucets!"
Is there an Alan introductory video? M o r e A l an !
Nice.
47:43 make sure to wear headphones for this part if you're in public, lol.
I hope the Cneoridium didn't blister you. I've been nailed by that stuff.
Beautiful Astreaus (Star Mushroom) there. I had to stop the video and admire it.
He knows, he knows.
So when are you coming to rossano? Look at some Oprhys. I know all the wicked spots.
27yo therian puppygirl here to say, listen to Emma Essex ! Awrooroo
I was just listening to this instead of watching and you sound exactly like Rocket from Guardians of the Galaxy!
As educational and downright entertaining as brother Joey is with Alan as his foil/ sidekick, it’s 10x funnier when I imagine what it must be like after they kill the camera and get their tacos after the long day in the field… Then, spending the next day hot-boxing in the car for hours, with a geriatric, dog to boot! 😂 ~ 🌮 💨
Love those Baja matorrales
Jentle Jeffrey, Prickly Pondo!! Stick your nose in the bark cracks... nice. All the cutting up on the mountain could be fire management related. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joey mocking Alan and him not even reacting LOL
Not nearly as much fungal action in New England as the PNW I want to go hooooommmeee
I never seen a Horse Chestnut tree in Europe, which would be smaller than 30ft = 9meters
Love to you, you know , GFY