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The Primeval Forests of New Zealand and Heteroblasty Primer...

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2023
  • What is the trait known "Heteroblasty" and how did it develop in response to now-exyGianr Moas? Pseudopanax crassifolius is probably the best example of this, though there are many more.
    In this long video we take a walk through the primeval forests of New Zealand to inspect some unique evolutionary traits among the plants there as well as examine some of the conifers of the redwood and podocarp family that call these forests home.
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ความคิดเห็น • 155

  • @locke6531
    @locke6531 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    as a kiwi watching you for years now, it's awesome seeing you do your thing in my country 🙌🙌

    • @jdevil8877
      @jdevil8877 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same!

    • @seanwade4348
      @seanwade4348 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      always wished he'd come explain our plants

    • @abbyz13
      @abbyz13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i love that you guys call yourselves that…all i picture is a bunch of the little kiwi birds with thick chicago accents running around identifying native plants

    • @jasongarcia2140
      @jasongarcia2140 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a kiwi?!?!?!😊

    • @ZaviaaDHagwood
      @ZaviaaDHagwood ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you fuzzy

  • @whangadude
    @whangadude ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I can't believe how much NZ plant stuff I've learned from this channel in the last week or so, compared to how many years of going into the bush with my dad and his mates, sure I recognize a few of the plants, but if they didn't know anything, then they sure couldn't teach me the info they lacked. Really want to go for a bushwalk soon and truly look around at all the diveristy I've missed all these decades. Thank you so much for sharing so much knowledge.

    • @brightmooninthenight2111
      @brightmooninthenight2111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm just learning many of the plants native to my area and I'm 25. And these plants have been here the whole time and I've just begun seeing them. The human word is so insulated one can go their whole life and know nothing of the original world

  • @linden5165
    @linden5165 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Piper excelsum is kawakawa - a very important plant with medicinal and ceremonial uses. Has anti-inflammatory, immune suppressing and gastroprotective compounds. The bush is full of medicine.
    Totally agree with your rant about planting pine and invasive exotics!

  • @weirdoutwest
    @weirdoutwest ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I've watched you for years, and it's pretty surreal to see you wandering around literally in my backyard. This has been my view and vista for the last year

    • @allyson--
      @allyson-- ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your favorite native plant there?

    • @weirdoutwest
      @weirdoutwest ปีที่แล้ว

      @allyson-- I wouldn't be a true kiwi I didn't say the Pohutukawa, Metrosideros excelsa

    • @jimkeegan6503
      @jimkeegan6503 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One those rich stiffs? Did you catch him watching you piss?

  • @somebody_keas
    @somebody_keas ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So awesome seeing you trip out at our plants! BTW Gorse is very useful for re-generating the native bush in NZ- it's nitrogen fixing, and eventually dies off once the canopy shades it out.

    • @chrishouseman4781
      @chrishouseman4781 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I was in New Zealand I saw them spraying gorse with herbicides

  • @toxicrune
    @toxicrune ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You are part of my motivation to start my native plant home (for now) nursery. Thank you for being you.

  • @wellurban
    @wellurban ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wonderful to see Aotearoa’s fascinating plants through your eyes! Much of it has a lovely familiarity compared to your more typical northern hemisphere content, but it’s also a reminder that there are so many native species that I still need to learn about because they don’t grow further south where I live. And there’s so much to learn about the ever-evolving taxonomy, too: I hadn’t heard of Kunzea robusta, but after some research I found that it was only described in 2014, and what we’d long known as K. ericoides is more likely to be several species. Maybe I’ll just keep calling it kānuka, as that helps me remember the mnemonic for distinguishing it from mānuka (Leptospermum scoparium): “kānuka is kind but mānuka is mean”, referring to the relative prickliness of the foliage. There are lots of other distinguishing factors between those myrtaceous bastards, primarily the fact that L. scoparium retains its seed pods, but I can rarely resist feeling the foliage as I walk past to test the difference.

  • @Ludvig11
    @Ludvig11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such alien beauty especially the pseudopanax crassifolius and many other things here, it puts a smile on my face. That bronze brown leaf undersides contrasting with the green is beautiful. Majestic trees with (subtle) technicolor bark. And that one with a yellow stem & "gingko"-like leaves.

  • @Stwinky
    @Stwinky ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun seeing their fauna, islands always have cool plant and wildlife. For anyone interested, you should look into New Zealand’s reptiles, highly unusual

  • @ross1972
    @ross1972 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Those Psudopanax leaves are really long lasting like longer than 10 years before they abcise. They get covered in lichens. I know because I planted one when my daughter was born. Plants and swearing it doesnt get any better.

  • @joshfoster9764
    @joshfoster9764 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such a great surprise to see you botanising my country. First found you while studying forest ecology and your service is outstanding.
    I hope you are coming south to check out the east-west diversity across the southern alps. If youre still in the country id be more than happy to show you the spots!

  • @Toddis
    @Toddis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell yeah, I was looking for something to watch

  • @scottyrush1523
    @scottyrush1523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joey, I grew up in Hodgkins in Crook County as a delinquent kid finding solitude in the Forest Preserves there.
    I first got interested in the psychoactive plants and fungi but you have really inspired me to appreciate all of the incredible species and how it’s all tied into Geology and I absolutely love your videos.
    Thank you for the education and the laughs

  • @amandadonegan2137
    @amandadonegan2137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some weird reason you suddenly disappeared from my feed and now l found you again.
    Your earthy expressions of your love for Nature soothe my tortured soul.
    I fucking LOVE this planet!

  • @nehok
    @nehok ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gah that Bell bird is making me feel homesick! Regarding Te Reo prounounciation, mine is admittedly poor. A rule of thumb I often find though is that whenever you find alternating vowels and consonants, they are often pronounced in pairs, for example, Totara is pronounced "Toe Tah Ra" vs "Toe Tara" Hope you are enjoying NZ ya SOAB, or as we say in NZ sometimes ya GC!

    • @linden5165
      @linden5165 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The to is not correctly pronounced as toe, but like taw. Tau is said like toe.

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These New Zealand forests must be what forests on an alien planet would be like. I've never seen anything like em. Unbelievable.

  • @marcotedesco8954
    @marcotedesco8954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That climbing Metrosideros flowering all around the crownshaft of the Rhopalostylis must be one of the most beautiful plant things I've seen!

  • @AHarper94
    @AHarper94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm from Perth, WA and visited NZ last year. Visited these exact ranges too! The sheer amount of greenery is outstanding there. Thank you for sharing such an abundance of knowledge, cheers

  • @andipandi9685
    @andipandi9685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see the exposure for these plants. I too was blown away meeting Horoeka Pseudopanax . Nice shot of Akatawhiwhi Metrosideros flowering on the Nikau. Divaricating plants could be co-evolution with browsing birds, lizard pollinators and seed distributers and cooler climate.

  • @nobody-vp1dr
    @nobody-vp1dr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your work brother.

  • @lucyb15
    @lucyb15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for filming your tours of all these remote (to me) places! I love to watch.

  • @lindamartin21
    @lindamartin21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes I agree,sure is nice to see you down here in NewZealand,take care.

  • @gracepeterson7483
    @gracepeterson7483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your enthusiasm for plants is contagious. Fortunately we here in the Pacific Northwest can grow some of New Zealand's flora. I have a few of them in my garden here. Of course, nothing like those 200 year old monoliths though. So impressive!

  • @neidoodle
    @neidoodle ปีที่แล้ว

    I was amazed by all those similar looking, but unrelated plants when I travelled NZ a few years back. Watching you explain the evolutionary process behind that is an eye-opener. Looking forward to follow you around the rest of the country, I absolutely fell in love with the Nothofagus forests on the south island.

  • @thatcrazyhindu
    @thatcrazyhindu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg those plants are all so cool, I need to bonsai a pseudopanax crassifolius now!!

  • @TheJamesRedwood
    @TheJamesRedwood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nau mai haere mai e hoa.
    BTW we have plantations of Pinus radiata for timber, so we are not cutting down more native forest to provide wood. It grows much faster than our natives - ready for harvest in under 30 years. I believe it grows faster here than in Monterey.

  • @mamasquatch
    @mamasquatch ปีที่แล้ว

    What an incredibly beautiful place to be!

  • @jackwadd2390
    @jackwadd2390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this Tassie and New Zealand series has been fukken awesome, thankyou brother. Perth Western Australia

  • @stg8831
    @stg8831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those leaves are intense. I wish I could see them up close and feel them

  • @antonyjh1234
    @antonyjh1234 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hoping theirs a south island feature, so cool.

  • @allyson--
    @allyson-- ปีที่แล้ว

    22:03 those tiny orchids are soooo adorable

  • @KarmaCadet
    @KarmaCadet ปีที่แล้ว

    That forest is really well fernished!

  • @whatilearnttoday5295
    @whatilearnttoday5295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You'd enjoy Lamination National Park Australia. Some very, very old Nothofagus moorei up there.
    If you do make it, head out to the site O'Reilly took the naturalists, they called it "Green Mountain".

  • @gabrielgarcia2442
    @gabrielgarcia2442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tony when you were in the North Island of NZ did you encounter Fuchsia procumbens? it’s a native sprawling fuchsia. Either way you are a legend and I hope Brazil is or has blown your mind!
    Love your fan from the North Bay,
    Gabriel

  • @frankbrake7689
    @frankbrake7689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude that first tree is totally badass

  • @DanyaAnderson
    @DanyaAnderson ปีที่แล้ว

    hey hey! you're in my forests that was a real pleasure 😂

  • @katiekane5247
    @katiekane5247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I love you because you over share like I do? You betcha! Stunning footage as always, many thanks!

  • @weirdoutwest
    @weirdoutwest ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also a tip for te reo. It shares the Spanish vowel sounds.

    • @linden5165
      @linden5165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Japanese too 👍

  • @ShannonCarey0x53
    @ShannonCarey0x53 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Corybas orchid is crazy!

  • @sophia1176
    @sophia1176 ปีที่แล้ว

    about those trees that evolved with moas, i read that thorns and spikes are actually less effective deterrents to birds because they have those hard beaks, so a lot of plants that had evolutionary pressure from bird herbivory evolved other deterrents, like growing in super dense clumps of intertwining stems and twigs and relatively small leaves

  • @valeriemiddleton675
    @valeriemiddleton675 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Rumi looks like Groots cousin . what a beautiful tree👍

  • @lightreign8021
    @lightreign8021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The weta reminds me of Mormon crickets. They are huge, omnivorous and cannibalistic. Gather in massive plagues that cover roads making them slick. They also bite. They added an unexpected level of complexity while fighting fires in Nevada and sleeping in a tent. They got into everything, even trying to eat our boots if you left them out.

  • @mynameisnotcory
    @mynameisnotcory ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idk why ive just been subscribed to your imstagram for like 7 years but never watched your videos, but that was a mistake. DEEP DIVE TIME

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heck of a binge watch coming up!

  • @lookattheflowers7854
    @lookattheflowers7854 ปีที่แล้ว

    kawakawa is a medicinal plant - the university has doen a massive breakdown on it and its components.. good for pain.. and you can buy it in balms etc here.

  • @ShannonCarey0x53
    @ShannonCarey0x53 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The coolest part of fern reproduction, in my opinion, is that it can produce a plant when haploid just as it can when diploid - though very different of course. Such a bizarre trick of genetics.

  • @gesus44
    @gesus44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Owesome video Bro, you gotta get down South Island!!! Heaphy track area would blow your mind.

    • @elle3901
      @elle3901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would love the SI. We only had time to do about 1/2 the north island this time

  • @Toddis
    @Toddis ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🦖 The 🦕 tree 🦖 ferns 🦕 always 🦖 make 🦕 me 🦖 think 🦕 of 🦖 dinosaurs 🦕

  • @hellokittysays6333
    @hellokittysays6333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could eat more of the seeds you find, and then some really awesome species could become you-dispersed.

  • @suzbone
    @suzbone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:00 Dennis Farina FTW!!!

  • @pragmaticcrystal
    @pragmaticcrystal ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for your time and effort 👏👏I love all of your videos

  • @infowarriorone
    @infowarriorone ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The idea of how the Human-caused extinction of megafauna has affected plant life has always fascinated me. Many plant species were dependent on big beasts and birds to reproduce. Now many of them (which remain) are solely dependent on Humans to keep their species going.

  • @ecomandurban7183
    @ecomandurban7183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rainforest there is true to its name. Every time l went into the forests in the 2 years l lived there it rained.

    • @ecomandurban7183
      @ecomandurban7183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me add that it is advisable to always wear gum boots and have a raincoat and waterproof hat in your backpack. Also have plastic zip bags for cell phones and cameras is not a bad idea.

  • @StanTheObserver-lo8rx
    @StanTheObserver-lo8rx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I axed for NZ posts and you delivered! When do you think you are getting to Mount Kilimanjaro and those cloud forests?

  • @kendallkahl8725
    @kendallkahl8725 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just checking out New Zealand trees and some plants from New Zealand are actually planted not only in the Pacific Northwest but Breat Britain and other places that are cold and damp. One Shrubbish Tree is invasive in South Africa.

  • @greatestytcommentator
    @greatestytcommentator ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you been to Rotorua yet?

  • @s.k.3891
    @s.k.3891 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allright!! You found a Corybas !

  • @JeffBostick222
    @JeffBostick222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take me back to Gwondona

  • @faurest8929
    @faurest8929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spends years trekking solo through the desert, goes to New Zealand once and instantly forms The Fellowship of the (tree)rings

  • @TinShackVideos
    @TinShackVideos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That cone is like, soooo Fibonacci .

  • @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
    @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like it when he says 'Gondwana'

  • @DG-iw3yw
    @DG-iw3yw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Giant birds were one of our ancestors main predators, many species in our genus would have been giant bird food, and this would go back as far as us being tree dwellers and further

  • @skylerrose3678
    @skylerrose3678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should come to canadas forests in either the west coast BC or northern Saskatchewan boreal forest

  • @unojayc
    @unojayc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the narration by Peter from Family Guy?...great video!..

  • @trevlo9208
    @trevlo9208 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t remember the species or even the area of the top of my head since I binge watch so many of your videos.. but would it also be considered hetroblasty in those Opuntias that grow spines on their lower growth to prevent herbivory, and eventually produce pads without spines up higher?

  • @Purwapada
    @Purwapada ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if you've had the luck of running into Prumnopitys taxifolia with the most amazing heteroblasty.
    check it out!

  • @aaronskoy957
    @aaronskoy957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that a parasitic plant growing out of the Coprosma autumnalis leaf at 20:43?

  • @aprilk141
    @aprilk141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro, I love the super continent Gondwana! That's hot

  • @LimeTreePrickly
    @LimeTreePrickly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monkey puzzle family could be a band name

  • @navalhistoryhub3748
    @navalhistoryhub3748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrible English Ivy family! From the UK and a gardener that made me chuckle 😂🤣😂 but it's true...

  • @TerribleFriendWhoFindsYouCool
    @TerribleFriendWhoFindsYouCool 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Next to this video with 23,000 views was a "wild bunny wanders into our hatch" with 10,000,000 views. Next to it a cat video with almost just as many people learning nothing

  • @dengueberries
    @dengueberries 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:20 what species is becoming more camouflaged? fritillaria?

  • @knswartz1
    @knswartz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hear there are large groves of planted California Redwoods in New Zealand.

  • @sneakythumbs9900
    @sneakythumbs9900 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you going to get to my favorite native, Vitex Lucens?

  • @allyson--
    @allyson-- ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we have a video getting into common Latin terms & their meaning? I know sometimes it's not directly helpful in every scenario (like virginica being of Virginia) but still

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides ปีที่แล้ว

    That GFY bi text ain't gonna cut it, buddy!

  • @RuneChaosMarine
    @RuneChaosMarine ปีที่แล้ว

    @26:33 hell yeah!

  • @akeleven
    @akeleven ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you would go to Alaska

  • @footwinner1
    @footwinner1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see you do Taiwan

  • @dsndicmsa7141
    @dsndicmsa7141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yea... Pseudopanax heteroblasty is evolved for growing up tall through forest canopy for light before getting broader leaves not for Moa

  • @pvtpain66k
    @pvtpain66k ปีที่แล้ว

    14:50 Noted, Senpai.
    Scribbles furiously: "Don't burn your testicles."

  • @dengueberries
    @dengueberries 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will you be going to Sweden?

  • @bigsiege1848
    @bigsiege1848 ปีที่แล้ว

    Supple cambium nice

  • @GregoryMcBride-qf7hx
    @GregoryMcBride-qf7hx ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what the beans of Coprosma arborea are like

  • @Wonton1
    @Wonton1 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are you moving to NZ?

  • @stormevans6897
    @stormevans6897 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, you only have 350k subs?

  • @ajodea1191
    @ajodea1191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its so wierd to hear your home forest plants being called by scientific names when you know them by common names.

  • @Purwapada
    @Purwapada ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey what the fuck was that last plant?

  • @macrosense
    @macrosense ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mulberries have “heteroblasty”

  • @andrewbennett1216
    @andrewbennett1216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I knew where you where going to be in NZ next I'd hide there for days on end dressed in a ghillie suit in the rain hail cold and wind and jump out from the bush, half dead, and say 'love your channel'. And Joey would say "and here we have Apteryx Retardus GFY Bye.

  • @greatestytcommentator
    @greatestytcommentator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those gigantic dead vine things look like anacondas....

  • @icebiker3
    @icebiker3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poison Pie Mushrooms!

  • @anaritamartinho1340
    @anaritamartinho1340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In florest of New Zealand i could "forget" the people, Human race, Homo Sapiens😅image there is only trees and cool plants, nothing else🙂

  • @rabidL3M0NS
    @rabidL3M0NS ปีที่แล้ว

    27:55 😩

  • @necrophagus9
    @necrophagus9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man you could make a fortune logging that and turning it into affordable housing 😂 I'm kidding! What an absolutely beautiful ecosystem!

  • @scarletstair4791
    @scarletstair4791 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They're should be a whole new style invented called petrichor, it could be a little like cottage core but kinkier 😅

  • @dapperninji646
    @dapperninji646 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would just do all this for a seed bank.

  • @abolishnato
    @abolishnato 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did he say piperaceae produces safrole? Doesn't sassafras produce it?

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They both do. Not all secondary metabolites are specific to a single lineage.

    • @abolishnato
      @abolishnato 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt thanks tone

  • @scarletstair4791
    @scarletstair4791 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Smells like saffrole maybe you can make mdma from it" 😂

  • @_FMK
    @_FMK ปีที่แล้ว

    The "r" is a 'voiced aveolar tap' 😮 *- not as naughty as what youre up to with that siang pure though 😶‍🌫️ / 38:06 💚 👀

  • @brightmooninthenight2111
    @brightmooninthenight2111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    40:04 anybody else see a face with eyes nose and mouth and hair and arms sticking out. The freaking ancestors are living in the trees