this is the best explanation of humour I've seen so far. mild violations are funnier when it is closer because mild violations happen to someone we don't know, all the time; therefore they stop being violations and become the norm. Someone out there is mis-stepping and falling, all the time but it doesn't happen around us all the time.
takeaways: -humor helps cope with pain, stress, adversity -it`s funny only when 3 conditions are met simultaniously: situation of benign, situation of violation and their intersection -Violation means put things out of norm -benign means be psychologicaly distant -pay attention to your audince -additional strategy - highlight what is wrong with normal everyday situations -example of algorith: start with violation, then benign (create a distance), provide an alternative interpretation
Benign means not harmful/kind/gentle The thing I think we should learn from this talk is that there's limits to humor it may hurt people's feelings and we should respect these limits.
I really enjoyed the circular structure that this lecture had, starting by asking the audience to tickle themselves, and at the end, picking up the same topic but this time with sense after the whole explanation about humour. I didn´t realise before about what separate humour and being annoying or even cross the line, but after hearing about the bening violation I grasped it. Just to conclude, a very interesting and well explained speech.
Some Ted speakers just speak about their research and don't actually provide the main core information. You gave out gold to everyone for free. Thanks a lot 🎉
Actually laughing is more funny beacuse you share a feeling with the audience making them feel more secure by making that you create a safe space for the humor and laughter to flow.
It depends on the joke or gag. If it's the kind of thing that laughter would distract from the punchline, you should deliver it dead-pan. If it's too easy to assume you're being serious, you should at least present a timely grin... "the gotcha face"... to let your audience know it's not serious, and they will laugh. Some gags are entirely based on the context of delivery, so it really matters that you deliver an "over the top" sentiment with a deathly serious tone and expression... Others are just funny enough on their own merits that it doesn't matter how they're delivered. ;o)
Oh my! It is true that some people find it funny when someone falls into a staircase and gets hurt haha... But it is more due to the shock and surprise at something that happens completely unexpected like that. Laughter is just a way to express shock, something that is very normal in people, and not because we are laughing at the other person, we are only laughing because it happened in an unexpected way. This type of laughter is only a way of expression of a surprise, not of the pain that the other person feels.
This explains why I laugh when terrible things happen to me. My coping strategy is to look at myself from a distance. I have confused alot of people...
This is EXCELLENT. A couple of months ago that gal Nicole Arbour got a ton of attention for her "Dear Fat People" rant, which most people did not find funny. But also, very few people did a good job of being able to EXPLAIN to her why it wasn't. Hope the people at The Humor Research Lab (Really? Can I work there?!) sent her a link. This also gets at the heart of how different things for different people qualify as "benign". I love hidden camera jokes, but a good friend of mine can't stand them, as she internalizes that discomfort of personal boundaries being crossed as not being "benign". Love it! Great info!!!
There are many things that make things funny. It could for example be when someone says something that was unexpected or something we didn't expect at all happens. It could be due to a situation (or someone's actions) that can be funny because of its absurdity, or because of a misunderstanding. It could be humor that comes from something that is related to yourself, or that you can relate to (maybe because you've experienced something similar).
I completely agree! Understanding humor is crucial, especially since it shapes our interactions. I once took part in the Sense of Humor Improvement Program by Habit10x, which helped me appreciate how timing and context can change everything. One insight I gained: humor is subjective-what’s funny to one person might not be to another. Another is that humor often relies on shared experiences; a joke about a mutual struggle can be more relatable. Remember, laughter can be a bridge in social situations, so embrace the humor and enjoy the connections it fosters!
We love Peter McGraw and his Benign Violation Theory! A simple way to remember this theory is "if laughing at this is wrong, why does it feel so right?"
This is a pretty good explanation about what makes things funny. But what I'd really like to know is, why funny things make us laugh and how that reaction works in the brain. I wonder if they study that with fMRI.
There's a vsauce video on the subject. Basically humour destroys a prediction on the outcome of something in our minds, and the change of context from this unexpected realization, is releasing quickly the electrical energy in those neural pathways, and the quickest way to do that, Is to dissipate the energy through the motor cortex which in turn, makes you move your muscles in a certain way.
Fascinating. As I rewrite my comedy lines I will work towards benign-violation while keeping in mind my audience, the situation and "distance" and see if that generates more laughs.
irish humour is very accurate , of Oscar Wilde they said "being Irish he had a great sense of tragedy ,that sustained him through his temporary moments of joy"
Anyone who teaches or has to communicate with folks should watch this. It is a great repesentation of using humor to engage your audience -"*actively* - which causes them to pay attention and retain what they say. I love humor!
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@0:42: It doesn't "beg the question"; it raises the question. To "beg the question" is to commit a logical fallacy in which one assumes the conclusion. To raise a question is to pose it for consideration.
Laughter and happiness is an expression of superiority. You see in all animals. It is the nervous reaction to someone who is mildy intoxicated. A partner which is either an alpha male, or short-lived. An animal with rabies. The body auto-defensively conveys intimidation, to confuse the viewer which witnesses uncoordination.
I know that many dogs respond with excitement, friendliness and happiness when you laugh. But I don't know if they have a sense of humor. Dogs and many other animals can immediately know if you are feeling fear or feeling love or joy. No matter what your body language is or if you're back is turned to them a dog can sense if you're feeling fear or feeling happiness or love. They literally feel whatever emotion you are feeling. Most of us humans need body language or tone of voice indicators.
Would you plot things on a number line, with negative numbers indicating level of violation, positive numbers indicating benign-ness, and zero as the sweet spot where they overlap? Or would it be more like a two-dimensional graph, with X and Y as the two qualities? In other words, are the two qualities opposite (line) or complementary (graph)? If the answer is that they are complementary: Does the intensity of the two qualities affect the humor, or does it only matter that they balance? In other words, if something is both intensely violating and intensely benign, is it funnier than something mildly violating and mildly benign? Can something be very benign and very violating at the same time, or does that balance out to neutrality? Can anything be neither benign nor violating? Also, does humor arise from the duality of something being both benign and violating, or, instead, from the uncertainty about which category it fits into? When a joke has both qualities, does the listener assess it first one way, then the other, oscillating between the two, or is it more of an instant comprehension that both qualities are present?
Very true humor really helps everybody truly smile and get through a tough day and when you ask someone how are you it becomes sincere 5 star information . And i am going to order larg pens to hand out that say my pen is Huge with my business logo! To give out :)
No Funny bone is but a cruel joke Like an egg without the yoke Like no fizzling in your coke Like the smile that is broke Humor is something to provoke
>humor occurs when and only when three conditions are satisfied: >a situation is a violation, the situation is benign and both of those appraisal occur >simultaneously how oversimplified. benign violation? what about good unexpected news? that isn't funny; what about nervous laughter? that is from non-benign violation or not even violation just nervousness, not only violations cause nervousness. what about ostracizing laughter? where an unwanted violation is funny, so a malignant violation.
why use the word violation? just say pattern mismatch. You can create a pattern mismatch through exaggerating something or minimizing it. Draw a human face. Give it a huge nose. Funny. Give it a small little chin. Funny. Its just a simple benign pattern mismatch. I reason that humans get pleasure out of pattern mismatches because we learn through identifying similarities and differences in patterns. So it would make sense for us to enjoy finding pattern mismatches and sharing these with friends. When its not so benign, the pattern mismatch still evokes curiosity and the need to discuss it.
Because not everything is just a pattern mismatch. A violation can be a violation of your comfort zone, but still have a pattern. Like, if some creepy old man is licking his lips and breathing down your neck, then that's a violation. But if that creepy old man predictably opens his trench coat to flash you, and he's fully dressed with a flashlight, then it's benign. It ended the way you would expect, but it seemed like a violation at first. It would not have been funny had he actually been naked under there. Pattern mismatch would imply that something completely out of the ordinary should happen, which isn't what humor is a lot of the time. A lot of people also find dark humor funny. That's stuff that might simply be straight up violation to one group of people, but benign to another. Like racist jokes, rape jokes, or dead baby jokes. Not everyone finds those funny, but some people do. What is simple pattern mismatch to some people, is straight up violation to others. Violation covers everything under the same umbrella, so that the theory works just as well for any joke.
No Name Plenty of dark humor actually also relies on pattern mismatch. You're used to bad things being treated in a bad light so when they're not, it can be funny.
Even if you were on a caffeine high while writing the comment, I think you were on to something. I watched a Vsauce video before this one discussing why things are funny and he mentioned how there is a theory that things are funny because they involve unexpected occurrences, just as a pattern mismatch is by nature an unexpected occurrence. With you describing the violation instead as a pattern mismatch, you unintentionally meshed the two theories together and provided an improved theory as to why things are funny. Also, side thought: could the guy's use of the word "violation" also be interpreted as a "violation of the expected"?
+YouShouldRepeatThat 'could the guy's use of the word "violation" also be interpreted as a "violation of the expected"?' Yup, that is what it means. He very explicitly states that at 11:17, and it would not make any sense, if the term was limited to something like 'everything that causes someone else suffering.' Even with situations of physical violence, what is laughed about is that the person objected themselves to enduring pain, or that someone else did it, when both of these are things those people have been taught not to do, and we therefore do not want them to do. It is not the fact that pain is being endured that makes us laugh.
Components of successful humor: Benign violation, not hurtful to begin with, with distance, alternative meaning. Irma Bombeck said: There is a thin line between laughter and pain, comedy and tragedy, humor and hurt
@ausendundeinenacht His theory isn't about violation of norms, it's specifically about the violation of expectations, for example: failed expected threats. What makes something 'benign' is the fact - which I inferred above - that the viewer can laugh at the violation, because the viewer is genetically wired to give the impression of superiority over the unexpected occurrence, or empathy with the superiority of a viewer being viewed by that empathizer...
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this is the greatest humour theory ever. simple and accurate for most cases. there is one thing i think is still unexplained: - why it can be funny (mainly for kids) just to identify themselves with one another. Like, "i like ice cream", "me too!". there's no violation. Also, this pattern can be seem at people laughing at things like "i fear travelling by airplane... i hate people that don't". i call this "identification humour". i've splitted recently some stuff in "expectation break" (something better explained by him as violation) and identification.
This seems to describe Rodney Dangerfield perfectly: Unexpected horrible things alledgedly happening in the past to someone you know only because you see thembut barely know them so you know hey're unlikely to be truthfully hurt?
Well... I should know something about that subject. My husband hurt his little toe this morning and our 4-year-old was laughing. When dad said: "this is NOT FUNNY", he, of course, laughed even more. On another note: it is somewhat difficult to laugh at the same things if you and your partner are from different countries. This is our case anyway. I find much more things funny than my husband. The funny thing is... my husband's sister just broke her toe recently too. Again! Awww! I'm so lucky that I'm not from toe-breaking family. That sucks big toe!
this is the best explanation of humour I've seen so far.
mild violations are funnier when it is closer because mild violations happen to someone we don't know, all the time; therefore they stop being violations and become the norm. Someone out there is mis-stepping and falling, all the time but it doesn't happen around us all the time.
Wonder what he'd do if nobody laughed in the beginning 😂 took the risk for a high reward, I respect that
He'd hold the pause longer, because somebody will laugh at the uncomfortably long pause. Then, everybody will join in.
takeaways:
-humor helps cope with pain, stress, adversity
-it`s funny only when 3 conditions are met simultaniously: situation of benign, situation of violation and their intersection
-Violation means put things out of norm
-benign means be psychologicaly distant
-pay attention to your audince
-additional strategy - highlight what is wrong with normal everyday situations
-example of algorith: start with violation, then benign (create a distance), provide an alternative interpretation
benign means harmless, psychological distance is its own takeaway
I watched this whole video without knowing what benign meant
You my Sir are a man of culture!
your comment is a fine example of a benign violation. It's funny haha
i checked the replies to this to see if someone told you what it meant to hide that I didn't know what it meant either
Benign means not harmful/kind/gentle
The thing I think we should learn from this talk is that there's limits to humor it may hurt people's feelings and we should respect these limits.
🤦♂️
I really enjoyed the circular structure that this lecture had, starting by asking the audience to tickle themselves, and at the end, picking up the same topic but this time with sense after the whole explanation about humour. I didn´t realise before about what separate humour and being annoying or even cross the line, but after hearing about the bening violation I grasped it. Just to conclude, a very interesting and well explained speech.
Some Ted speakers just speak about their research and don't actually provide the main core information. You gave out gold to everyone for free. Thanks a lot 🎉
if you can deliver a joke without laughing or smiling, boom
I tried this out at my first open mic.Any feedback is appreciated!!
But sometimes the persons laugh telling the joke can make u laugh too
Actually laughing is more funny beacuse you share a feeling with the audience making them feel more secure by making that you create a safe space for the humor and laughter to flow.
I’m really good at this, which I hate cus people think I’m being serious 🙄🙄
It depends on the joke or gag. If it's the kind of thing that laughter would distract from the punchline, you should deliver it dead-pan. If it's too easy to assume you're being serious, you should at least present a timely grin... "the gotcha face"... to let your audience know it's not serious, and they will laugh.
Some gags are entirely based on the context of delivery, so it really matters that you deliver an "over the top" sentiment with a deathly serious tone and expression...
Others are just funny enough on their own merits that it doesn't matter how they're delivered. ;o)
falling down stairs, not hurt: no laughter
falling down stairs, hurt: laughter
unless it happens to another person: EXTREME LAUGHTER
The way I heard it is-
When you fall down the stairs its comedy.
When I fall down the stairs its tragedy.
That's sadistic.
Oh my! It is true that some people find it funny when someone falls into a staircase and gets hurt haha...
But it is more due to the shock and surprise at something that happens completely unexpected like that.
Laughter is just a way to express shock, something that is very normal in people, and not because we are laughing at the other person, we are only laughing because it happened in an unexpected way.
This type of laughter is only a way of expression of a surprise, not of the pain that the other person feels.
This explains why I laugh when terrible things happen to me.
My coping strategy is to look at myself from a distance.
I have confused alot of people...
Wow thats great advice!! If you take psicologycal distance from yourself, then everything is less serious, and consequently funnier.
This will certainly makes me more considerate of others while cracking jokes . Thank you so much
I’ve learned why some things are funny. I can use this. Friends and family appreciate his talk!!
You can tickle yourself if you're ticklish enough. Trust me, I know.
YesReneau .
ohuuu verified
I can tickle myself so I don't know what are they saying
100% true for me as well.
Ikr, I couldn't wash my feet because I was so ticklish that it was a torture
Humour research lab omg and I struggle finding a job
You’re British aren’t you.
@@fourthmusketeer2745 lol
This is EXCELLENT.
A couple of months ago that gal Nicole Arbour got a ton of attention for her "Dear Fat People" rant, which most people did not find funny. But also, very few people did a good job of being able to EXPLAIN to her why it wasn't. Hope the people at The Humor Research Lab (Really? Can I work there?!) sent her a link.
This also gets at the heart of how different things for different people qualify as "benign". I love hidden camera jokes, but a good friend of mine can't stand them, as she internalizes that discomfort of personal boundaries being crossed as not being "benign".
Love it! Great info!!!
That's a great example. I also don't care for hidden camera jokes, and you described exactly why.
There are many things that make things funny.
It could for example be when someone says something that was unexpected or something we didn't expect at all happens.
It could be due to a situation (or someone's actions) that can be funny because of its absurdity, or because of a misunderstanding.
It could be humor that comes from something that is related to yourself, or that you can relate to (maybe because you've experienced something similar).
I completely agree! Understanding humor is crucial, especially since it shapes our interactions. I once took part in the Sense of Humor Improvement Program by Habit10x, which helped me appreciate how timing and context can change everything.
One insight I gained: humor is subjective-what’s funny to one person might not be to another. Another is that humor often relies on shared experiences; a joke about a mutual struggle can be more relatable.
Remember, laughter can be a bridge in social situations, so embrace the humor and enjoy the connections it fosters!
Don't you hate it when a sentence doesn't end the way you refrigerator?
Yeah. It sucks.
Hahahaha 😂
this comment is 1 year old and i find it hilarious
@@pork43 really? It left me cold
@@gideonpalmer8809 pun
We love Peter McGraw and his Benign Violation Theory! A simple way to remember this theory is "if laughing at this is wrong, why does it feel so right?"
Maybe you're immoral?
No, it’s funny because it seems harmless at the same time. To us or in general
Excellent explanation of what makes things funny. Wow. Good topic and good examples. The speaker is very deliberate and keeps it ...well....funny !!
When nobody laughs at your joke so you violate them with your fart unexpectedly.
I have achieved comedy.
You’re sus
6:16 also when nobody realized he said AMOGUS
You made an achievement: oh thats funny..lol
"When nobody laughs at your joke so you violate them."
This is a pretty good explanation about what makes things funny. But what I'd really like to know is, why funny things make us laugh and how that reaction works in the brain. I wonder if they study that with fMRI.
Do you know the answer yet?
There's a vsauce video on the subject. Basically humour destroys a prediction on the outcome of something in our minds, and the change of context from this unexpected realization, is releasing quickly the electrical energy in those neural pathways, and the quickest way to do that, Is to dissipate the energy through the motor cortex which in turn, makes you move your muscles in a certain way.
If you're dissecting something it's already dead. If something dies in the process, that's vivisection.
Pop2323pop Unless its your friend. Then its comedy.
I think you just vivisected that joke
Pop2323pop hmm, very interesting
+vincentmack37 Hahaha...
Youre a nerd if you laughed
Excellent explanation of humor! Thank you 😄
Fascinating. As I rewrite my comedy lines I will work towards benign-violation while keeping in mind my audience, the situation and "distance" and see if that generates more laughs.
Hi Edward, did it work?
Edward Wedler worth a shot, let us know if you succeed or not
This is clearly one of the greatest TEDx Talks, but then most of the people who wanted to watch it and invariably commented are sad people
Most humorous thing ever “people you date and mate”
Probably the best explanation I have heard
irish humour is very accurate , of Oscar Wilde they said "being Irish he had a great sense of tragedy ,that sustained him through his temporary moments of joy"
Anyone who teaches or has to communicate with folks should watch this. It is a great repesentation of using humor to engage your audience -"*actively* - which causes them to pay attention and retain what they say. I love humor!
I love this! Life is complex and ridiculous all at once. It's good to take a step back and see what's funny about it.
he said over a long period of time. as a child, depressed people laughed and had fun, but over time they lost it.
that last statement is true but so is the fact that you can only take offense to something, even if something is intended to insult you directly
So good...thank you! Needling more laughter in my life.
so every humor have a root to somekind of violation. thankyou
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I don't like that notion.
the only ted talk assignment for english i enjoyed
Best unifying explanation I've heard so far.
Yeah, it is pretty good.
- I'm not any funnier now though than I was 15 minutes ago, and dog-gone-it i want my money back!
I just gave a 3 hour lecture on comedy. I could've just showed them this video. 😆
@0:42: It doesn't "beg the question"; it raises the question. To "beg the question" is to commit a logical fallacy in which one assumes the conclusion. To raise a question is to pose it for consideration.
Great. Presentation! You learn me something! Many. Thanks!🎈🎈
I just had a Ted Talk ad in a Ted Talk video. They successfully tickled themselves.
Laughter and happiness is an expression of superiority. You see in all animals. It is the nervous reaction to someone who is mildy intoxicated. A partner which is either an alpha male, or short-lived. An animal with rabies. The body auto-defensively conveys intimidation, to confuse the viewer which witnesses uncoordination.
"How do you make this a malign violation?" Laughed so hard.
Marytyr coz it was benign to listen and not to actually see someone wear.
Someone really managed to dissect and analyse "humour" and what's more, it was funny as well! So the frog was not killed. Certainly benign!
Youd hope it was. I dont trust any comedy advice that comes from someone who doesn't make me laugh. I mean it's self evident right there, isn't it?
I will take what I've learned into the world!
*starts tickling strangers*
*several pending lawsuits*
Best TEDx talk ever.
Benign retaliation is just one of 13 tools in the Comedy writers belt.
This was very well presented
Well? Don't be a tool and tell us!
This Boulder guy is very gifted at Not Funny. I hope he is an exception among the rest of Boulder guys.
Hopefully I can up my humor using this technique
Hopefully you can cause this comment wasn't funny at all
this video is over 8 years old and i find it pretty interesting
This is actually a fantastic video. Thanks Peter!
I know that many dogs respond with excitement, friendliness and happiness when you laugh. But I don't know if they have a sense of humor. Dogs and many other animals can immediately know if you are feeling fear or feeling love or joy. No matter what your body language is or if you're back is turned to them a dog can sense if you're feeling fear or feeling happiness or love. They literally feel whatever emotion you are feeling. Most of us humans need body language or tone of voice indicators.
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die." --Mell Brooks....A malign violation, and funnier because of it.
Sure if you're a sadist. Are you?
The opening statement let me know this video was made BC (before covid) 😆
This was like a math lesson , I was left more confused
Would you plot things on a number line, with negative numbers indicating level of violation, positive numbers indicating benign-ness, and zero as the sweet spot where they overlap?
Or would it be more like a two-dimensional graph, with X and Y as the two qualities?
In other words, are the two qualities opposite (line) or complementary (graph)?
If the answer is that they are complementary: Does the intensity of the two qualities affect the humor, or does it only matter that they balance? In other words, if something is both intensely violating and intensely benign, is it funnier than something mildly violating and mildly benign?
Can something be very benign and very violating at the same time, or does that balance out to neutrality? Can anything be neither benign nor violating?
Also, does humor arise from the duality of something being both benign and violating, or, instead, from the uncertainty about which category it fits into? When a joke has both qualities, does the listener assess it first one way, then the other, oscillating between the two, or is it more of an instant comprehension that both qualities are present?
One thing is certain, it's hard and takes a genius to be able to explain humor humorously.
Amazing. Very close to the truth. Bravo. Keep researching mr mcgraw..
Talk Summary:
Take a violation and make it sound casual or take something normal and make it catastrophic. Create a benign violation.
So Joe Wilkinson vs James Acaster. Gotcha.
Very true humor really helps everybody truly smile and get through a tough day and when you ask someone how are you it becomes sincere 5 star information . And i am going to order larg pens to hand out that say my pen is Huge with my business logo! To give out :)
i love tickling my sugar glider to see her bark and shake with joy!
Sheldon cooper had his own theory to tell jokes and be humorous, he would love this vid
Sheldon Cooper isn't a real person, though
@@swine13 he was inspired out of a real one. That was not my point though.
Watched it 5th time, one of the best talk
Not the guy in the beginning starting to stand up, and upon seeing no one else stood up, sat back down. 💀
This theory is basically the Push Pull tactic in practice
No Funny bone is but a cruel joke
Like an egg without the yoke
Like no fizzling in your coke
Like the smile that is broke
Humor is something to provoke
Me tells a joke
People:-laughs
Me:-tells the reason why we laugh
People:-laughs
Stellar stuff !!! Real dimension with feeling how pedagogic this was.
6:33 somehow the missing of the hammer made this actually really funny
6:40 and this is even better
Lovely talk. Very benign😊
7:22 - channelling Sheldon Cooper...heheh!
There's 12 comedy structures and 7 laughter triggers
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>humor occurs when and only when three conditions are satisfied:
>a situation is a violation, the situation is benign and both of those appraisal occur >simultaneously
how oversimplified. benign violation? what about good unexpected news? that isn't funny; what about nervous laughter? that is from non-benign violation or not even violation just nervousness, not only violations cause nervousness.
what about ostracizing laughter? where an unwanted violation is funny, so a malignant violation.
why use the word violation? just say pattern mismatch. You can create a pattern mismatch through exaggerating something or minimizing it. Draw a human face. Give it a huge nose. Funny. Give it a small little chin. Funny. Its just a simple benign pattern mismatch. I reason that humans get pleasure out of pattern mismatches because we learn through identifying similarities and differences in patterns. So it would make sense for us to enjoy finding pattern mismatches and sharing these with friends. When its not so benign, the pattern mismatch still evokes curiosity and the need to discuss it.
Because not everything is just a pattern mismatch. A violation can be a violation of your comfort zone, but still have a pattern. Like, if some creepy old man is licking his lips and breathing down your neck, then that's a violation. But if that creepy old man predictably opens his trench coat to flash you, and he's fully dressed with a flashlight, then it's benign. It ended the way you would expect, but it seemed like a violation at first. It would not have been funny had he actually been naked under there. Pattern mismatch would imply that something completely out of the ordinary should happen, which isn't what humor is a lot of the time.
A lot of people also find dark humor funny. That's stuff that might simply be straight up violation to one group of people, but benign to another. Like racist jokes, rape jokes, or dead baby jokes. Not everyone finds those funny, but some people do. What is simple pattern mismatch to some people, is straight up violation to others. Violation covers everything under the same umbrella, so that the theory works just as well for any joke.
I was just hopped up on coffee that day. Don't know why I even left that comment. Violation is fine. lol
No Name Plenty of dark humor actually also relies on pattern mismatch. You're used to bad things being treated in a bad light so when they're not, it can be funny.
Even if you were on a caffeine high while writing the comment, I think you were on to something. I watched a Vsauce video before this one discussing why things are funny and he mentioned how there is a theory that things are funny because they involve unexpected occurrences, just as a pattern mismatch is by nature an unexpected occurrence. With you describing the violation instead as a pattern mismatch, you unintentionally meshed the two theories together and provided an improved theory as to why things are funny.
Also, side thought: could the guy's use of the word "violation" also be interpreted as a "violation of the expected"?
+YouShouldRepeatThat 'could the guy's use of the word "violation" also be interpreted as a "violation of the expected"?'
Yup, that is what it means. He very explicitly states that at 11:17, and it would not make any sense, if the term was limited to something like 'everything that causes someone else suffering.'
Even with situations of physical violence, what is laughed about is that the person objected themselves to enduring pain, or that someone else did it, when both of these are things those people have been taught not to do, and we therefore do not want them to do. It is not the fact that pain is being endured that makes us laugh.
This Is the best talk ever
he looks like the son of vision and mark zuckerberg
Amazing!
When you do an unacceptable thing in an acceptable way🙂
Although what defines acceptable can be subjective.
at the end i was expecting: "now please stand up"
Finally someone cracked the secret of what make something funny
A not funny person should not lecture on comedy.
Components of successful humor: Benign violation, not hurtful to begin with, with distance, alternative meaning. Irma Bombeck said: There is a thin line between laughter and pain, comedy and tragedy, humor and hurt
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His theory isn't about violation of norms, it's specifically about the violation of expectations, for example: failed expected threats. What makes something 'benign' is the fact - which I inferred above - that the viewer can laugh at the violation, because the viewer is genetically wired to give the impression of superiority over the unexpected occurrence, or empathy with the superiority of a viewer being viewed by that empathizer...
Funny and informative. I think TED is making headway.
he totally paid people to laugh that hard in the audience, smart guy
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+Jor Sc (jordan scruggs) Just because you didn't get the jokes, it does not mean he had to pay people to laugh.
+JustKeith His jokes are awesome,and it has nothing to do with the fact that I'm rich
No he didn't. Go look-up TED cult.
Jor Sc I was dying the whole time and I'm broke. And u can't b the funniest urself since ur here
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The moment he said start tickling, i was done with the video 😂
We both have the same name bro.
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this is the greatest humour theory ever. simple and accurate for most cases.
there is one thing i think is still unexplained:
- why it can be funny (mainly for kids) just to identify themselves with one another. Like, "i like ice cream", "me too!". there's no violation. Also, this pattern can be seem at people laughing at things like "i fear travelling by airplane... i hate people that don't".
i call this "identification humour". i've splitted recently some stuff in "expectation break" (something better explained by him as violation) and identification.
2 things: what does malign mean ? And How did moving 'is' down to next line in "my pen is huge" make any difference ?
Peter McGraw, you rock!
This seems to describe Rodney Dangerfield perfectly: Unexpected horrible things alledgedly happening in the past to someone you know only because you see thembut barely know them so you know hey're unlikely to be truthfully hurt?
Excellent talk. It starts a little unsteady, but just keep watching.
thank you for this upload! :)
i learned much about it.
Awesome, though so much more detail to get into. Great research subject!
It's still tickling yourself. But I get your point and it's true, too.
i need this FAST!
great talk!
It's funny because it's an extreme and unexpected comparison, hence the violation, but it is still somewhat accurate
Well... I should know something about that subject. My husband hurt his little toe this morning and our 4-year-old was laughing. When dad said: "this is NOT FUNNY", he, of course, laughed even more. On another note: it is somewhat difficult to laugh at the same things if you and your partner are from different countries. This is our case anyway. I find much more things funny than my husband.
The funny thing is... my husband's sister just broke her toe recently too. Again! Awww! I'm so lucky that I'm not from toe-breaking family. That sucks big toe!
Benign-gentle or kind not harmful or okay