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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- Hey guys taking a look on the R-27ER ADDED today!
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1:43 the problem with war thunder is that they added missile self destruction quite some time ago (probably 2 years ago) to reduce server load or whatever the reason might be. It was way back when they just added the eurocopters. Just decided to add the feature one day cus they felt like it. Now they will have to rework or remove said feature in order to implement the modern features you’re talking about here. A random decision in the past coming back to bite them.
I agree and more people should know about this
This is incorrect. Most missiles are designed to self-detonate is they a) miss the intended target or b) are unable to reach the target. The time-stamp you're referring to shows the missiles being fired at like 600km/h. There was no way the missile could hit the intended target, so it decides to detonate. This is not to reduce server load, this is a real feature of the vast majority of missiles meant to reduce the chance that the missile runs out of fuel and crashes into a civilian or friendly area.
This version of the Fulcrum couldn't carry this missile, wish they'd fix the R73 and radar instead but heyyy, snail gonna snail.
It wasn't a problem of couldn't carry, it was more of a classic Soviet move of couldn't be bothered
@@warspitebstwaifu6453 ahh gotcha
Agreed they shouldn’t have added the ER, a missed opportunity for fun asymmetric gameplay with the R-73A plus helmeted mount sight and R-27T’s providing opportunities for strong counterattacks
Why not motherfucker ? It can use them and it can also use r77 and r73
It’s time
Those f14s get fucked
@@Mikeme137 for one this Mig version didn’t get the 27ER as it was introduced released in 1990. They should have the original R-73A which could be flared and not added the ER
@@robanson32 they take ER and R77 + R73 plus ET as well
@@Mikeme137 not the 1985-87 version of the 9.13 we’re supposed to have in game. Unless you think we should have the 2005 version that comes with R-77’s
The people who complain about the Phoenix are the same people who don't do any cranking defending or anything. I dodge Phoenix missiles on accident all the time and the only time they're viable is on EC maps which are super rare
This aircraft didn't need the ER it needed either the ET or R73 without ECCM
For me instead of adding another missile they should just fix the radar and R27R, even with ER i barely get any kill because of radar lock lost and also many times the missile was going crazy out of nowhere in perfect conditions
this plane only needed the r27 just with its mach 4.5 speed
how do you win those BVR engagements then? With the R27 lacking thrust?
It needs a fuctioning radar most of all
@@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688 you don't
I want to ask you a question. Do you feel that the mig29 does not rotate as it should?
it has fly-by-wire system as the F-16
You dont going to pull 10G+ over Mach 1
meanwhile other planes can pull 10G+ because lack of fly-by-wire system
problem is that the planes like Su35 or F-15 will be the same just with better weaponry
I worte it in other videos too, I'm 100% sure the problem is in the radar and not the misisle. Mig29 radar has something very wrong with it and simply put it doesnt work most of the times.
I dig how they made each missile a separate module lol, start with 2 r60m but still have to research the r60 to unlock the r27r which then unlocks the r60m, I think I'll just wait a bit until the dust settles on loadouts and everything :P
yeah it’s a pain, and so far im struggling to get a solid lock to get a kill with the R27R, idk about ER since im researching but i can say that the radar is broken and not worth using the radar AAMs, wasted my time buying this plane and this is the result i get..
@@solid_fire9388 They said they will fix the radar, it wasn't in the changelog this morning, hopefully they fix it on the next patch.
@@solid_fire9388 The er's at least for me have just been missing for no reason, they just start doing random ass turns or whatever they want.
In earlier videos i wrote that we dont need R-27ER.....well....i changed my mind...i needed it in my life. Even if i know its not working as it should. Its propably becouse while it has better stats overall, they propably used r-27r as base so the range is not displayed properly and missile being blown up at the same distance as r-27r. Maybe its becouse the R-27ER while having 100 km launch range, it have 25km lock range, so after the sustained burn is ending and the missile is not within 25 km from target it simply autodestructs.
It should be around 40km
@@alucidrust Maybe it should. I don't know if this is the actual issue but maybe it would remove this problem of missile blowing up in the air even if it has energy to hit the target.
u right, its due to battery life time, at least in game
If you look at datamine, the maximum range for receiver of R-27R/ER is 30km, so you cannot fire at anything that is beyond 30km, the missile simply won't see the target thus self destruct.
Not sure if they've changed it but I've tested and you can actually hit targets beyond 30km. After one attempt of testing the max range, I was able to hit a target from 40km away. But unlike this video, I was not traveling 600km/h when I fired the missile. I was at 15,000 meters altitude traveling around above 2,000km/h. I think I easily could have pushed the range further but 40km is the max size of the German testing map
So interms of range equivalent for NATO AIM 120 A?
What is that I dunno target indicator/selector on your radar, I've seen it in your videos multiple times and I would like to use it as well
Something still feels broken about the flight model of the mig29. It almost feels like putting on flaps makes it turn worse.
ya bro i think the same
I've heard that it's actually how it's supposed to be, as using flaps blocks the leading edge slats that already extend whenever you're turning.
What we need now is an R27P (passive radar homing). Would make the F-14s think twice before shooting a missile...
They could just... Turn off their radar. Passive radar missiles performed like shit irl. There's a reason NATO didn't use em.
@@jbeverley67 F-14 players arent smart enough to turn off their radars
@@jbeverley67 also a reason why they were never put into service iirc
@@maxim.rinktusconsidering how much mig29 crying is going on, I wouldn’t call f-14 players dumb lol
first shot was done out of range, watch on your radar , the 2 small bar is range, the big one is the current range with your speed, if the missile doesnt not have tyhe range to reach target then it detonates, your whole tests failed because of that
I hope you see my comment quickly and correct your video cause this is a thumbs down from me sorry :S
He will put out 3 more videos crying about the mig29 before he reads anything😂
Great video mate but I dont think you should compare the Aim54 (which right now Is almost useless and One of the easiest missiles to defeat) with something like the R27ER which Is way better in almost any way.
You have PostFX on or installed Ultra HQ client? Beacuse this textures of MiG is so beautiful
I love seeing Russians cry about their radar missiles when the AIM-7M is not even an AIM-7M, and it randomly flies off target like 70% of the time when you have a perfect lock.
That's what I'm saying. As someone who mains 3 top tier air nations, this shit is so damn dramatic. They're acting like the MiG-29 is dogshit. When that is simply bullshit. The only thing wrong with the MiG is its RADAR which they should fix because it is annoying trying to lock people up. But that would fix a lot of issues. They wouldn't need to add the ER. Love how he's making this video of how the ER is not accurate to its real life counterpart yet the 7M is literally a copy paste 7F that seems to be more unreliable. It seems to be left out that the 9Ls were also nerfed this update in the only way that makes them 9Ls. Their flare resistance. Otherwise they're just 9Gs with more pull. People are just being so dramatic that it's becoming extremely annoying.
Lol what no it doesn’t
Classic American main superiority complex
@MatAWG i will say one verry verry big TAHNKS you dude about this video.
How did you get these long ranged bvr spawn maps?
I think its perfectly fine that you can launch this missile from 45KM and it reliably hit I don't have a problem with it. (I wouldn't compare the R27 to the AIM54 as the AIM54 is very heavy and not as maneuverable and they are both very different missiles I would compare this more to the AIM7's)
Watching that missle burn right into that f16 was so satisfying, lol
You're firing the missile going like 600km/h. The missile is exploding because you launch it with so little energy that the missile rapidly realizes it has zero chance of hitting the target and detonates itself. Most missiles are built to detonate themselves if the intended target is either missed or becomes impossible to hit so that the missile doesn't fly into a civilian or friendly area and detonate. You should also keep in mind that the stated 100km range is very, very optimistic. It assumes that the missile is fired at a very high speed, from a very high altitude, against a very slow and large target.
You can't fire a missile at speeds slower than many prop planes are able to achieve and expect it to magically have enough energy to hit a target 60km away. You would be lucky to hit a target more than 10km away at that speed. I do agree that the datalink may not be functioning correctly, or is at least very temperamental, however all you've shown in relation to the missile's range is that the missile functions as expected.
I think the fact Mat is promoting this missile, which is god tier, yet is complaining that it needs to be even better... tells me its time to unsubscribe and find a different youtuber.
So many videos so fast... Keep it Matt!
Lol aim7m isn't modeled properly. The maps are to damn freakin small for missile like this
After 11.0 all maps should be EC tbh
@@btoiscool 100% agree I'd top tier even fighting on this tiny ass maps is beyond me
Wanna cry? why the pendos were silent when f14 destroyed everything that moves, and when the USSR starts adding new missiles, you immediately run to cry on the forums. I understand that you are used to playing with one toe of your left foot, you like it when your vehicles dominates, but now get ready for retribution.
seems like this is just a bandaid for the bigger issues with the MIG29. gaijin got greedy for that holiday cash out
The mig29 is to you what the hstvl is to spook and I’m loving it xD
The only difference is that Mat is not cringe nor a f*rry, at least not that we know of...
@@TheNicestPig spook’s alright mate, and who cares if either ends up being a furry lol
I understand that it doesn't do what the stats says it can do. But do we really want a missile that can go mach 5.8 and fire at up to 60km away? It would just be 10 times more cancer than the aim-54
It's closer to a aim7e
@@lilMungo that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
@@MagentaFerret in acceleration maunverbty with slight mire range
@@lilMungoaim7e sucks
@@Sumi_S no it doesn't lol
Am I the only one that thinks this missile is super op?
literally yes lmao
@@nutnut. fastest missle in the game and can pull 30 gs, impossible to doge?
Why would they add something this op
Add something seem OP but does not even work because rada is still dog shit xD good job gaijin i feel like they dont even care to play there own game
And you think F14/F16 spam of radar missiles isn't op?
@@danielkantor5693 not op but annoying
@@hiduno5915the f16 and 14 are better still lol
@@DustyBustty you really think so?
I still think the R-73 is coming because they need to solve both the long range and short-medium combat capabilities.
the pehonix is broken too. You basically can't kill anyting but AI with it.
Not true at all.
@Lolz quick It's fairly true, considering you have to be a complete bot to get hit by one.
I think its crap because its the A, or because it doesnt work at all like it would in real life. Pretty sure its supposed to climb really high up. Either way, its beyond useless when we have aim7F
@@ml-fishing1341 its crap because the pheonix was crappy in general with less than 100 launches and even fewer successes, the C was only an improved A because it used a more resistant seeker head and featured home on jam which is arbitrary in terms of warthunder as for how it functioned it climbed up to 100k feet and dove onto a target which greatly improved its terminal kinematics. gaijan models a loft somewhat but its nowhere near the height or aggressiveness say, a dcs pheonix does
@@theliteralworst9416 yea 0 US kills right? Phoenix only worked for Iran from what I understand. Most of these missiles haven’t done much irl, while some have done tonnes
Missiles are cool but they go for chaffs and radar is garbage, just add r73 pls...
Mat, please can you make a video how to use the bloody radar on MiG-29 and general I'm having a nightmare with for months now watched your videos on it but it still doesn't make much sense to me, PLEASE I am a member too.
Don’t use tws
@@Royalasiangaming why?
Unfortunately the radar on the mig -29 in the game is kinda shit
@@WeebLord69 so what do I use?
@@marekmazurek98 you should still use the ER , but dont expect god tier results from it , it has good range , you can fire it from 20km but you will usually lose radar lock
Gaijin clearly doesn’t want mig29 to be good because the premium planes won’t be bought much 😂😂
Actually weird . people buy those Mig 23 70$ just to grind for the Mig-29 but right now if u look at que about 80-90% of player top tier are US . im not joking
I feel like this is just stupid gaijin balancing. I wish they would full embrace BVR combat
Newbie mistake, don't look at stat card of the missile, even aim 9b have 10 km range, so u should not shot at 10km just.
R27er rn is like aim 7f just shot at 5-7 km.
All that it needs now is airspawn 2 or 30000 ft up at upersonic 50km apart. *BVR cranking intensifies*
Everything is just not working right
Atm the er is op compared to the 7m. The 7m is wayyy slower and is easily cranked. the 27er on the other hand barely loses speed at all if ur cranking and the radar on it can detect you 70 km away. Meanwhile in the f16 I could just manage to spot my friend in his 29 at 20km if he hadn’t fired, if he would’ve I wouldn’t have had the chance to detect him other than the rwr
Believe me, with the f16 radar u can see him way before he sees u. U just have to use another radar mode for example 37km (or even more on big maps) instead of the standard 19km puls doppler radar range
Você é brasileiro mano? Porra que inglês perfeito
Faz outro vídeo sobre Flares kkk
E chaff
Tou tendo mto problema com essa porra
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@@matawg Humilde
F16s are going to have a rough time once more MiGs are around 😮
F-15 With 104-0 kill ratio exist
Not really f16s did just fine vs migs lmao. And they are in game.
Now war thunder no new mechanics datalink
the missile does not need 60 km range the mig is op anyway. If this missiles comes the AIM-120 AMRAAM is needed for balance.
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You serious?
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 Tell me how the Ja 37D is in anyway better than the mig-29?
@@Storlans it has 9L’s it’s still a worse aircraft but that’s cuz the Viggen isn’t a good a2a platform
@@andythesaladgod4578 and 9L are better worse or equal than R60M/R27ER?......
Yes, 120km range fox 3 is needed to balance 60km range fox 1
LOL
Enough if they fix aim 7 and 54 and tomcat will be op in air sb, no amraam needed
Another bugged missile and radar, and look at that dogfight, the mig 29 is not good at anything.
The mig29 would have won if He would have aimed better
Russian mains wanted the Mig29
Gaijin gave them the Mig29
Now they crying becuse the Mig29
@@csorbalaszlo1920 it’s trash 🗑️
@@wongarnold2879 its maybe because gaijin focused to make the r73 op as hell
so they forgot to fix the actually plane
And just think about it how long it takes to gaijin to fix something like the STRV103 hull
About the dogfight:
It has fly-by-wire system as the F-16 both plane are limited to 9G
every other planes can pull +1.5x higher G manoeuvres... meanwhile the Mig29 and F-16 are limited to 9 like in ral life
and thats the problem
but if gaijin give realistic G limit stats to the other planes the player will cry because the cannot pull 10G+ over Mach 1
i did pull 15G at 1350km/h with the F5C
and a normal 1v1 dogfight is rare in air RB since thre always a 3rd party enemy or friendly
The thing is that planes like Su34 or F-15 going to be the same just with better weaponry
im kinda sad about the Mig29 current state
I mean russian bias exist and there is the Mig29 and gaijin fucked it up
mig 29 is god in real life not in war thunder
Hehe
To be fair, the Phoenix doesn't pull worth a shit. You're better off firing all Phoenix on one target before you get close and pray it hits.