It's fun that a true finnish person with a super finnish accent is voising the sweden segment Edit: could you make a jet guide for people who are new to jets. Including info about how to use radar, keybinds, enrgy differences and stuff like that
When it comes to Israel, it is pretty beginner friendly since you have to grind to tier 4 in USA France or Britain to even access it so you do have the skillls that you need to compete in tier 4
when it comes to the A21A-3, I have to disagree, the plane has CCRP at BR 4.3, which in my opinion is a really useful thing on the GRB where you can deal with enemy SPAA at longer distances
There were a lot of things wrong with this guide. First of all, as you pointed out, the A21 is good if used correctly. Secondly, everything with unguided rockets is shit in GRB. You have trouble aiming and even if you hit, you will likely not do any damage. But the greatest error is calling the A32 bad. Its actually quite good for CAS as it has potent bombs with a CCIP. Lastly, the turn rate of the J21s is - although not good - manageable
what is also missing is that the Swedish jets have mainly tracer-free ammunition, which may be difficult for new players, especially since these bullets fly in a specific way, just like those from Russian 23mm cannons @@ibimsbodenhansel3230
It didn't surprise me too much to see that Sweden isn't the most beginner friendly nation. I started the game in june 2023 and Sweden hasbasically been my main since then. Won't lie, the BF-109Gs carried me through props. Its not the worst line, but the being put in a J29F and fighting F-104s is a nightmare for sure. still a great tree tho.
The finish Buffalo on Tier 2 is absolutely bonkers. Not sure if Gaijin miscalculated the burst load, but it absolutely shreds everything it faces with Ground Strike belts in a single pass (except a few soviet tanks, T-50 especially, russian bias is stronk) with decent AA performance aswell.
It's also quite insane in air RB. You can very often dogfight 3 people at once and still come out on top. Even Ki-43's and CW-21's aren't that hard to deal with if you're a good pilot.
Sweden and Japan are the most enjoyable nations imo. Most of the vehicles are a bit overtiered, but that is offset by the fact that these nations have the most skilled playerbase. This also leads to a lot of wins and faster grind. It is important to add however, that if you are unable to pull your weight in vehicles from the big 3 nations you shouldn't expect to improve your performance by switching to Sweden/Japan as their vehicles are a bit weaker tier for tier and you will struggle even more to get kills.
Yeah, they are quite fun but sweden feels slow to grind, im at tier 6 currently and i feel like i hit a brick wall, none of the planes are truly decent except for the j29f (the a32a is AWFUL, im afraid of getting the j32b, and im skipping the j34) but japan is indeed really fun, i just got the ki200 and it feels fresh
quite convenient for me the “copy-paste” mechanics here, since I don’t want to grind multiple, larger trees, and I care little for uniqueness. To me, it’s an easier way to get jets I like from individual nations, namely mirages and American jets. In addition, cool liveries and upgraded modifications
somone tell him that you can't jump to the ISRAELI tire 4 from the begining, you must first reach tire 4 in USA or france (or other to) so begginers CAN'T play this tech tree! and you can't "skip" the "sakin", its the first plane...
My heart breaks when I hear these bad words about J-21 series. This is a series of planes that I personally love and I make very good K/D with them at ARB. They are as average in theory as Shermans, but in practice they are great vehicles like Shermans. You didn't mention that the J-21A3 has CCRP for bombs in 4.3
Brother the sherman is not average, all those tanks have actual advantages that make them good like fast reload, stab and a solid gun. J21 is just ass no matter how you look at it, regardless of how "good" your kd in it is (its not actually good and ur just coping). They have the performance of 2.7 planes but at 4.3.
I still remember when the a21s where op as fuck. They started out at 3.3 or 3.7 as far as i know, and you could almost consistently get ace games in them.
Great vid! Just want to let you know that the Isreali tree unlocks only if you get to a rank 4 aircraft in either USA, Britain, or France, so it is not like you are thrown into tier 4 right away.
Thanks alot! I played the A32A yesterday and it was surprisingly hella fun. With 20min of fuel you can keep the after burner on as long as you want. With it off it turns like a brick, but with WEP it turns surprisingly well for its size o.O Happy new year!
What an incredible analysis, congratulations! I'm in tier 6 of Swedish fighters and I completely agree, so far I've suffered a lot to be able to advance, I hope the next tier 7 fighters are really good.
My personal gems are the B18B and T18B. The most fun I ever had playing a bomber.. u destroy a base.. and hunt down other bombers/ assist your fighters and land. This thing is so agile that u can kind of dog fight some planes... most of the players underestimate the capability of these planes.
In my opinion, the finnish line is great as the j21's climb and manoeuvrability rates are not that good at its br when flying it, but 4.3 matches became much easier when i flew the finnish bf109s. Overall, the finnish line is pretty good if you're struggling through rank 4, regardless of it being copy paste
as someone who started with the swedish tree and did not use the Finnish tree at all and has researched every plane in the tree I would disagree with many of the thoughts. the A21A has the most ground kills of all of my planes from ground RB. the thing I will agree with is that you want to fight in mostly head-ons. but the whole tree was very fun for me and I would love to grind through it again.
I’ve grinded the Swedish tech tree without prem and I can confidently say it’s a solid tech tree and I would take what he says with a grain of salt if your looking into playing a fun and challenging tech tree without prem I highly recommend. for me the best planes are the B239, A21a3 B18 and T18-57 (the t18 57 it’s absolutely bonkers with the 13.2 20mils and a 57mil all in the nose 💀 and is extremely fast with a surprisingly decent turn time for a bomber) J29F and the J35D (the j35d is so fun I put a talisman and made fat stacks) the Viggens are neat and pretty but are a bit of a pain to learn, and I will soon have the Gripen
I'm working on the JA37D right now, my thoughts so far: The SK60B is an SL factory and the only vehicle in the game that I put a talisman on. 4x 1000kg and 2x 500kg will destroy a base plus it gets an air spawn. It takes every pylon to do so but once you have them all free, you're very maneuverable. The 7.7 Tunan is such a babe, takes a while to get up to speed but it's guns are incredible. If you can bait someone to follow you away and into a turn battle, it's an easy shoot down. The twin tailed props and jets are cheeks. You will need to play them but if a single 20mm hits the tail, it's over. I try not to judge early props too much because most early props are so-so. They have competitive and not competitive choices depending on playstyle. My biggest issue with the tree is Rank 7. The needless copy paste for the strike variants and the lack of internal guns and chaff at 10.3 and 11.0 makes them severely crippled by sacrificing pylons for stuff that you should already have. The J35D is overrated, argue with ya mama Please give tracers
I really appreciate this summary! I have watched it a few times! suffering through rank 6 has indeed been TERRIBLE! I have done all rank 6 with the J34 and there are no words. Torn between the draken and the viggen for my first Rank 7
The ja37c is imo more competitive at its br than the draken. It gets decent radar missiles turns very well above 600kph and if you drop below that while turning then pop flaps and profit. This is opposed to the draken which got its kite flight model ruined by the snail, also it has no flare in a missile heavy br so su25 and a10 clap you
@@EggSaladSammich so I've got the JA37C now! The EEGS is so nice to have since we don't have tracers! I'd gotten used to not using my flaps but I'll have to try it with the viggen it might make a big difference! I still have the crappy missiles for now but looking forward to that changing.
True. Whenever I used to get a "get x ammount of kills" wager it was always those planes that carried me. With J22 and mustang as backup in case I was particularly bad.
Sakeen? More like Sakeen Deez Nutz. I hate that thing lol. (I don't suck, I got plenty of kills with it and spaded it, thing overheats way too easily. You can be at like 92% throttle and still struggle to keep heat down. It has poor handling. It feels like they received the bf109 and just made it worse somehow.)
And historically speaking, it was a Stop-gap measure until some better aircrafts can be procured (there was an embargo back then and the Israelis basically had to take what they could get), they did get the Spitfire and Mustangs in the end (with some very daring operations) though and the Sakeens went out of service very quickly afterwards. The Sakeen was a great improvement over the imrovised armed light civil aircrafts which were used up to this point though, it was really hard procuring anything while being embargoed by the major powers.
Avia was a manufacturer of Bf-109Gs during WW2 and continued to do so after the war. But, the warehouse containing the actual Bf-109 engines burned down so they had to use He-111 engines. And since the he-111 engine did not allow for a nose mounted 20mm, they had to use the 20mm gunpods, which further decreased performance. I played the sakeen in arcade to grind out the spitfire since i hated playing the sakeen in realistic.
Israel did not make it worse, the checks did, that airplane was built and made in Czechoslovakia, from German surplus parts and the engine was a bomber engine.
For the israeli tech tree i think you also forgot to mention that you first have to get anothers nations plane to get the modified israeli version of it
Having just grinded through rank 2-6 in Sweden during the current event (Air RB), I have to seriously disagree with the J/A-21s being bad. I'm not a particularly good player, but I had a ton of fun playing them and performed well. I could outturn the majority of people and BnZ worked pretty great for me, not to mention that you're basically guaranteed to win every head-on. Their engines are weak, your wings will break if you're too fast and climb rate isn't great, but that's not to the point where I'd ever consider them bad as long as you play to their strengths, at least not at 4.3. The jet variants do suffer a lot more from the weak engine though, so I'd agree that they're definitely worse. Personally, I had the most fun in T3 and T4 so far, even using the A21 for the better part of grinding T5 as I only heard bad things about the A28B/Vampire till I tried it myself and actually liked quite a bit, even though it's overtiered. What I used to grind has been: T1: Fokker D.XXI-3 T2: J22-A T3: J22-B T4: A21A-3 T5: A28B
the spitfire and meteor vresions on the israel tree are uniqe to israel(in wt)(small changes) the israeli tree is like a tech tree with like more versions of american/british/french planes
I love Sweden in WT. I have both air and ground fully researched and I have my most fun games in the gripen C and the 122B+ is fun but it’s also fun to snipe with the A6 with the longer barrel
1:53 i object. J20's engine, turnrate and cooling leave you wishing for anything other than this disgusting hellspawn, but the 13.2 mm gun and two 8mm's make a difference, the damage is insane. J20 can not dogfight with biplanes, and can barely destroy something of its br. The thing it's good at is taking out bombers, strike aircraft (IL2) and sometimes you get a kill when someone you're fighting is skill issued enough that your shitty aerodynamics start helping you with losing speed
B18/T18 best fighter on the swedish tree :D also i dissagree with the A21/J22, id say the exact opposite to what is said in the video, tho i have to agreee on both speed and agility when talking about the J21, altho I must say that the 21R is quite good and i have gotten quite alot of kills in both, also you forgot to say that the strike versions of the fighters have a changed engien that if opimised for a lower ALT than the fighters. The A32 is really good for ground strike you got both a BC and quite a bit of bombs and rockets plus over 600 rounds of 20mm. You forgot to mention that the finnish vampire can carry bombs. In short i kinda dont agree with the video and it kinda feels like it was rushed and just overlooking all aircrat exept rank 6
as a sweden main, i must agree with most of this video, except the late props being "bad". if used correctly, some planes are devastating, but early jets are well.... shit
Your videos have been very helpful as I was debating on who to choose next after grinding quite a bit in early jets on Japan. Instant sub. Going to share this channel with my friend he's fairly new. Great work.
The guns on the Gripen and Viggen have pretty good velocities, almost 1000 m/s for both, they're different than the AKAN 55s, the Viggen guns are unique and the 27 is the BK27 from the tornado. Also despite being a delta canard the gripen has some of the best energy retention at top tier right now for some reason. Gaijin said JAS39C next patch so probably will get RB99. Unfortunately as it stands right now I'd say its one of the weakest trees in the game except for the Gripen.
Hi! Swedish main here... About A21-A3 is actually different from its fighter A2 and A1 twins: its engine is actually more powerful and it feels more agile. Additionally, its guns are extremely powerful on ap belts - easily one shots anyone, and being slower can actually help in dogfight... Overall, its great attacker as it can flip over its back easily and later get out. But as a fighter, i agree, its still mediocre.
A21 MEDIOCRE?? It turns so well and has amazing guns! The m/49 rockets have 500mm of HEAT penetration, you can use CCRP wirh the bombs, it's a great little plane when used with it's strengths and weaknesses in mind, namely understanding how to have enemies overshoot you or that overall it's a fragile plane, but you can fly back to base with a missing wing without problems It's a great, you did no justice to it. B18 are also amazing, ESPECIALLY THE T18B WITH 20mm, a 57mm, and a LOT of powerful rockets, all paired with amazing flight performance for such a big plane!
I don't agree with the A-4H in airrb, it can absolutely decimate in downtiers when you load a single gun pod. I used it to grind the entirety of tier 7 by bringing 4 firebombs and a gun pod. It can seriously switch from bombing to fighting after you destroy a base. Uptiers can get tough when faced with afterburners, but its vertical energy retention is absolutely bonkers when in downtiers.
and the ayit is a cool, unique plane to fly. It's upgraded engine is noticable and having the 2 shafrirs 2s and the 2 aim9ds with countermeasures, you can put up a serious fight
It feels like you have the J22 and J21 reversed in this guide. The former is one of the worst fighters at 3.0, while the latter (while still over BR'ed) is an actually usable fighter with at least some advantages it can pull out against other fighters.
as a beginner myself im late to this video as im already tier 4 on the swedish tree feels bad man, i really feel like im at a disadvantage with some airplanes , to late to change to another now, ill grind to the top on it before i quit, i hope
All the people complaining that the J/A 21s are actually good don’t realize that they only seem good if you suck at the game. They have good guns, so bad players can win headons or spray with them, but at the end of the day they’re very free kills if you have the slightest idea what you’re doing.
Me who just started playing swedes: "well, that explains a lot" idk, I have fun playing that country, and knowing it's pretty mid statwise makes me realize the game can be way funnier (I'm still rank 4)
Almost a year too late, i had to struggle, and i mean absolutely suffer through Sweden to get jets. And i started when i was a new player. Now i moved on to China and just bought the F-86F-30 and i now suffer from the worst MM in history. 8.7 vs 9.3 - 9.7 like wtf (edit: the F-30 if you dont remember, has zero missiles and zero flares fighting against jets with IR missiles and flares)
I love your content. I would like to see more content. Tho, i think you should upload more often. then you would get more views and to be honest. money
@@skDoger I totaly understand that. I think a lot of people come for the quality so. You basicaly canot get faster reasonably. Good job on this one tho! Would TH-cam be your goal or would you like to keep the channel mainly the same?
The J29A is the worst plane i have played in the game by far. It literally does everything like shit. It does nothing well. Any other plane at its BR shits on it in every aspect.
you will find it hard to believe but the israeli ouragan is almost as compatible as the mig15bis, i have a lot of games on it. 4kd. amazing plane. if you dony like meteors its a good option, after that the A4H is probably gonna be the best plane at rank VI because the french is really bad.
SK60 is awesome for CAS, the two guided missiles are the lowest br agms in the game and are two guaranteed kills, plus 8 500mm pen rockets that you can easily get another couple kills with once you get used to them. Also, "just use the gripen instead of the attacker viggens makes no sense, as there is 2.0 BR difference between them. Yeah they're awful, but explain why they're awful instead of just saying another plane is better
The J 22s do indeed HAVE cannons. The 13.2mms are called AKANs - autocannons and are counted as such. Why? Because they can carry explosives. Hence cannon shells.
It's fun that a true finnish person with a super finnish accent is voising the sweden segment
Edit: could you make a jet guide for people who are new to jets. Including info about how to use radar, keybinds, enrgy differences and stuff like that
A jet guide is definitely planned, stay tuned
@@skDoger thanks! Keep uo the good work
Well I hope it's better than the "French" accent from the last one. -_-
No biggie tho, good videos keep them comming ;)
The finnish accent is just different Scottish
Finland superiority.
When it comes to Israel, it is pretty beginner friendly since you have to grind to tier 4 in USA France or Britain to even access it so you do have the skillls that you need to compete in tier 4
when it comes to the A21A-3, I have to disagree, the plane has CCRP at BR 4.3, which in my opinion is a really useful thing on the GRB where you can deal with enemy SPAA at longer distances
There were a lot of things wrong with this guide. First of all, as you pointed out, the A21 is good if used correctly. Secondly, everything with unguided rockets is shit in GRB. You have trouble aiming and even if you hit, you will likely not do any damage. But the greatest error is calling the A32 bad. Its actually quite good for CAS as it has potent bombs with a CCIP. Lastly, the turn rate of the J21s is - although not good - manageable
what is also missing is that the Swedish jets have mainly tracer-free ammunition, which may be difficult for new players, especially since these bullets fly in a specific way, just like those from Russian 23mm cannons @@ibimsbodenhansel3230
+ he forgot to mention the energy retention@@ibimsbodenhansel3230
@@ibimsbodenhansel3230 Almost all unguided rockets are useless but not some like the zunis
@@ibimsbodenhansel3230 Swedish rockets disagree
It didn't surprise me too much to see that Sweden isn't the most beginner friendly nation. I started the game in june 2023 and Sweden hasbasically been my main since then. Won't lie, the BF-109Gs carried me through props. Its not the worst line, but the being put in a J29F and fighting F-104s is a nightmare for sure. still a great tree tho.
you probably wont see this but, what plane do you think is best to get for my first rank V
@goosejuice27 I’m also on my first rank V I think I’m gonna get the BF-109G
We need a remake of the ground tech tree guides, they are over 2 years old now
Ye i agree
That is in my to-do list, but not anytime soon
The finish Buffalo on Tier 2 is absolutely bonkers. Not sure if Gaijin miscalculated the burst load, but it absolutely shreds everything it faces with Ground Strike belts in a single pass (except a few soviet tanks, T-50 especially, russian bias is stronk) with decent AA performance aswell.
It's also quite insane in air RB. You can very often dogfight 3 people at once and still come out on top. Even Ki-43's and CW-21's aren't that hard to deal with if you're a good pilot.
every time i see a b239 im shivering in my timbers
Shhhh i dont want to get gaijined, im a f2p.
Sweden and Japan are the most enjoyable nations imo. Most of the vehicles are a bit overtiered, but that is offset by the fact that these nations have the most skilled playerbase. This also leads to a lot of wins and faster grind. It is important to add however, that if you are unable to pull your weight in vehicles from the big 3 nations you shouldn't expect to improve your performance by switching to Sweden/Japan as their vehicles are a bit weaker tier for tier and you will struggle even more to get kills.
Yeah, they are quite fun but sweden feels slow to grind, im at tier 6 currently and i feel like i hit a brick wall, none of the planes are truly decent except for the j29f (the a32a is AWFUL, im afraid of getting the j32b, and im skipping the j34) but japan is indeed really fun, i just got the ki200 and it feels fresh
You are just bad the a32a is a great dog fighter
@@camilorodriguez5602the j34 Is a British hunter
quite convenient for me the “copy-paste” mechanics here, since I don’t want to grind multiple, larger trees, and I care little for uniqueness. To me, it’s an easier way to get jets I like from individual nations, namely mirages and American jets. In addition, cool liveries and upgraded modifications
the energy lost is correct on Viggens and Drakens, but Gripen looses a lot less energy in turns.
somone tell him that you can't jump to the ISRAELI tire 4 from the begining, you must first reach tire 4 in USA or france (or other to) so begginers CAN'T play this tech tree!
and you can't "skip" the "sakin", its the first plane...
Yeahhh I wish someone told me that
Israel is a pretty bad choice for beginners anyway
thats the point, there is no beginers in israel, only tire 4 and obove.@@buttcracker
You can buy ur way in tho 🥴 gaijin moment
@@ryguy-qh2qk that is also in any other nation
My heart breaks when I hear these bad words about J-21 series. This is a series of planes that I personally love and I make very good K/D with them at ARB. They are as average in theory as Shermans, but in practice they are great vehicles like Shermans. You didn't mention that the J-21A3 has CCRP for bombs in 4.3
Brother the sherman is not average, all those tanks have actual advantages that make them good like fast reload, stab and a solid gun. J21 is just ass no matter how you look at it, regardless of how "good" your kd in it is (its not actually good and ur just coping). They have the performance of 2.7 planes but at 4.3.
Looks like you have never played the a21a-3
J21 = free kill
@@russman3787 ye no the j21 is a great plane comparde to your fw 190
@@erik_gaming7026 tf do you mean "my Fw 190", I fly 109s and yaks.
Im new in War Thunder, and I do love playing Swedish line! Thanks for the insight!
I still remember when the a21s where op as fuck. They started out at 3.3 or 3.7 as far as i know, and you could almost consistently get ace games in them.
Great vid! Just want to let you know that the Isreali tree unlocks only if you get to a rank 4 aircraft in either USA, Britain, or France, so it is not like you are thrown into tier 4 right away.
Thanks alot!
I played the A32A yesterday and it was surprisingly hella fun. With 20min of fuel you can keep the after burner on as long as you want. With it off it turns like a brick, but with WEP it turns surprisingly well for its size o.O
Happy new year!
Happy New Year to you as well
Yeah, afterburner must be on at all times on planes that have it unless you are going back to base with low fuel
What an incredible analysis, congratulations! I'm in tier 6 of Swedish fighters and I completely agree, so far I've suffered a lot to be able to advance, I hope the next tier 7 fighters are really good.
hey i really like the J-21s :(
Best tactic for the J-21: hold J for 3 seconds in battle
@@skDoger but mah 13.2mm :((
@@skDogerFrom my experience the j21 is a very solid plane, it turns insanely well and has good guns
@@NeedForMemesyour experience is wrong 👍
@@deadinside1921 And you have an massive skill issue👍
idk man, I had a lot of fun in sweden at all ranks except rank 6
Fr bro fvck rank 6
Just asking, how did you get through Rank 6 and unlock your first Rank 7 craft? Asking bc im boutta finish Rank 6 with my 105g
@@RoyalCanadianACCbombing in sim
My personal gems are the B18B and T18B.
The most fun I ever had playing a bomber.. u destroy a base.. and hunt down other bombers/ assist your fighters and land. This thing is so agile that u can kind of dog fight some planes... most of the players underestimate the capability of these planes.
Started War Thunder as a Swedish Main a year ago, currently at 4.0 in both ground and air.
Researching PT-76 and T18A
As an Israeli main, i really needed this thank you!
Chad
smash next question
@@iforgotdawgLeast horny warthunder fan
@@windbuster We got body pillows now, What do you expect, (Gaijin Israeli body pillow when?)
In my opinion, the finnish line is great as the j21's climb and manoeuvrability rates are not that good at its br when flying it, but 4.3 matches became much easier when i flew the finnish bf109s. Overall, the finnish line is pretty good if you're struggling through rank 4, regardless of it being copy paste
as someone who started with the swedish tree and did not use the Finnish tree at all and has researched every plane in the tree I would disagree with many of the thoughts. the A21A has the most ground kills of all of my planes from ground RB. the thing I will agree with is that you want to fight in mostly head-ons. but the whole tree was very fun for me and I would love to grind through it again.
It should be noted that the J21RB actually has a faster top speed and better engine than the J21RA, even though the fighter variant needs it the most
Not mentioned were the Sa'ar and Ayit both carrying shafrir 2s at 9.0 and 9.3 respectively giving both great missiles for their BR!
Now we need the naval nations guides.
Maybe in like 2 years lol
I wish Sweden got a naval line. I know naval is dead but ita actually fun! Plus if they add subs too they might increse player count for naval.
@@MrViggie37 4.7+ Naval is acceptably populated. Not really dead unless you try to play 2.3 coastal realistic or something.
@@skDogernaval kinda boring tho
@@skDogermaybe make an update video bout the ground nations?
I’ve grinded the Swedish tech tree without prem and I can confidently say it’s a solid tech tree and I would take what he says with a grain of salt if your looking into playing a fun and challenging tech tree without prem I highly recommend. for me the best planes are the B239, A21a3 B18 and T18-57 (the t18 57 it’s absolutely bonkers with the 13.2 20mils and a 57mil all in the nose 💀 and is extremely fast with a surprisingly decent turn time for a bomber) J29F and the J35D (the j35d is so fun I put a talisman and made fat stacks) the Viggens are neat and pretty but are a bit of a pain to learn, and I will soon have the Gripen
I'm working on the JA37D right now, my thoughts so far:
The SK60B is an SL factory and the only vehicle in the game that I put a talisman on. 4x 1000kg and 2x 500kg will destroy a base plus it gets an air spawn. It takes every pylon to do so but once you have them all free, you're very maneuverable.
The 7.7 Tunan is such a babe, takes a while to get up to speed but it's guns are incredible. If you can bait someone to follow you away and into a turn battle, it's an easy shoot down.
The twin tailed props and jets are cheeks. You will need to play them but if a single 20mm hits the tail, it's over.
I try not to judge early props too much because most early props are so-so. They have competitive and not competitive choices depending on playstyle.
My biggest issue with the tree is Rank 7. The needless copy paste for the strike variants and the lack of internal guns and chaff at 10.3 and 11.0 makes them severely crippled by sacrificing pylons for stuff that you should already have.
The J35D is overrated, argue with ya mama
Please give tracers
they gave tracers :)
You probably mean SAAB-105G instead of SK60B, becuase SK doesn't get any bombs and its only purpose is to be a doormat for the SAAB-105G.
I really appreciate this summary! I have watched it a few times! suffering through rank 6 has indeed been TERRIBLE! I have done all rank 6 with the J34 and there are no words. Torn between the draken and the viggen for my first Rank 7
The ja37c is imo more competitive at its br than the draken. It gets decent radar missiles turns very well above 600kph and if you drop below that while turning then pop flaps and profit. This is opposed to the draken which got its kite flight model ruined by the snail, also it has no flare in a missile heavy br so su25 and a10 clap you
@@EggSaladSammich so I've got the JA37C now! The EEGS is so nice to have since we don't have tracers! I'd gotten used to not using my flaps but I'll have to try it with the viggen it might make a big difference!
I still have the crappy missiles for now but looking forward to that changing.
Yes ive been waiting for this one
The advice on Swedish pushers is use them in arcade for tons of fun.
True. Whenever I used to get a "get x ammount of kills" wager it was always those planes that carried me. With J22 and mustang as backup in case I was particularly bad.
4:35 A21 have CCRP, something unique at that br
I was searching for this video today hahah. Thx man great upload as always
I don't even play WT anymore but I enjoy watching your videos regardless
Sakeen? More like Sakeen Deez Nutz. I hate that thing lol. (I don't suck, I got plenty of kills with it and spaded it, thing overheats way too easily. You can be at like 92% throttle and still struggle to keep heat down. It has poor handling. It feels like they received the bf109 and just made it worse somehow.)
Its a Bf-109 with an he-111 engine. Its basically a Bf-109 without the good thing about every Bf-109.
And historically speaking, it was a Stop-gap measure until some better aircrafts can be procured (there was an embargo back then and the Israelis basically had to take what they could get), they did get the Spitfire and Mustangs in the end (with some very daring operations) though and the Sakeens went out of service very quickly afterwards.
The Sakeen was a great improvement over the imrovised armed light civil aircrafts which were used up to this point though, it was really hard procuring anything while being embargoed by the major powers.
Avia was a manufacturer of Bf-109Gs during WW2 and continued to do so after the war. But, the warehouse containing the actual Bf-109 engines burned down so they had to use He-111 engines. And since the he-111 engine did not allow for a nose mounted 20mm, they had to use the 20mm gunpods, which further decreased performance.
I played the sakeen in arcade to grind out the spitfire since i hated playing the sakeen in realistic.
Israel did not make it worse, the checks did, that airplane was built and made in Czechoslovakia, from German surplus parts and the engine was a bomber engine.
What I like about the A21s is that their rockets are not on the wings. Makes easy to aim and use for CAS in ground RB.
For the israeli tech tree i think you also forgot to mention that you first have to get anothers nations plane to get the modified israeli version of it
Nope, you just have to get to any rank 4 plane in US, UK or FR
Having just grinded through rank 2-6 in Sweden during the current event (Air RB), I have to seriously disagree with the J/A-21s being bad. I'm not a particularly good player, but I had a ton of fun playing them and performed well. I could outturn the majority of people and BnZ worked pretty great for me, not to mention that you're basically guaranteed to win every head-on. Their engines are weak, your wings will break if you're too fast and climb rate isn't great, but that's not to the point where I'd ever consider them bad as long as you play to their strengths, at least not at 4.3. The jet variants do suffer a lot more from the weak engine though, so I'd agree that they're definitely worse.
Personally, I had the most fun in T3 and T4 so far, even using the A21 for the better part of grinding T5 as I only heard bad things about the A28B/Vampire till I tried it myself and actually liked quite a bit, even though it's overtiered. What I used to grind has been:
T1: Fokker D.XXI-3
T2: J22-A
T3: J22-B
T4: A21A-3
T5: A28B
Yooo! I've been waiting for this BANGER for so long! I'm looking forward to your next series!
I've been looking forward to the Israel episode. Thanks, fellas!
the spitfire and meteor vresions on the israel tree are uniqe to israel(in wt)(small changes)
the israeli tree is like a tech tree with like more versions of american/british/french planes
I love Sweden in WT. I have both air and ground fully researched and I have my most fun games in the gripen C and the 122B+ is fun but it’s also fun to snipe with the A6 with the longer barrel
sweden grinder here im at late props and really enjoy it
Finally part 5 I still love this series because on yt there arent really good guides in my opinion besides this series on aircraft
I absolutely love the ayit.. its my most played vehicle, just because how versatile it is
1:53 i object. J20's engine, turnrate and cooling leave you wishing for anything other than this disgusting hellspawn, but the 13.2 mm gun and two 8mm's make a difference, the damage is insane. J20 can not dogfight with biplanes, and can barely destroy something of its br. The thing it's good at is taking out bombers, strike aircraft (IL2) and sometimes you get a kill when someone you're fighting is skill issued enough that your shitty aerodynamics start helping you with losing speed
J22 being the worst turning aircraft in all of my 5 trees: ok, i am agile, let's go
When it comes to the J-21 A it’s not that bad. I can hold my own in fights against a BF-109 and it’s pretty maneuverable.
Ye i use it for cas in grb it can pen the roof of pz4 and melts aa whit its guns and having a 600kg bomb whit 480kg of tnt.
Another amazing video by Doger, keep it up man!!
I mean i can kill jets with a21 a3 as it can turns pretty well compared to the earl jets and pretty much 8.0 jets
B18/T18 best fighter on the swedish tree :D also i dissagree with the A21/J22, id say the exact opposite to what is said in the video, tho i have to agreee on both speed and agility when talking about the J21, altho I must say that the 21R is quite good and i have gotten quite alot of kills in both, also you forgot to say that the strike versions of the fighters have a changed engien that if opimised for a lower ALT than the fighters. The A32 is really good for ground strike you got both a BC and quite a bit of bombs and rockets plus over 600 rounds of 20mm. You forgot to mention that the finnish vampire can carry bombs.
In short i kinda dont agree with the video and it kinda feels like it was rushed and just overlooking all aircrat exept rank 6
as a sweden main, i must agree with most of this video, except the late props being "bad". if used correctly, some planes are devastating, but early jets are well.... shit
I just got my first Swedish my first Swedish jet I’m happy
11:25 AIM9p is already an export variant of the AIM9J. Also AIM9M is not rb74J(M) it's rb74(M).
Your videos have been very helpful as I was debating on who to choose next after grinding quite a bit in early jets on Japan. Instant sub. Going to share this channel with my friend he's fairly new. Great work.
I'll have to call BS on the Swedish props. J22 handles bad while the J21 is better. And the J26 is more agile than the 109.
The guns on the Gripen and Viggen have pretty good velocities, almost 1000 m/s for both, they're different than the AKAN 55s, the Viggen guns are unique and the 27 is the BK27 from the tornado. Also despite being a delta canard the gripen has some of the best energy retention at top tier right now for some reason. Gaijin said JAS39C next patch so probably will get RB99. Unfortunately as it stands right now I'd say its one of the weakest trees in the game except for the Gripen.
The tree is indeed nerfed hard because of the skill tax. Almost all aircraft in the tree sit at a higher BR than they should because of StAtiStiCS.
Hi! Swedish main here...
About A21-A3 is actually different from its fighter A2 and A1 twins: its engine is actually more powerful and it feels more agile. Additionally, its guns are extremely powerful on ap belts - easily one shots anyone, and being slower can actually help in dogfight... Overall, its great attacker as it can flip over its back easily and later get out. But as a fighter, i agree, its still mediocre.
Fokker D.XXI Series 3 is a Swedish Ki-27 👍
can't believe he didn't mention the cute little gunpod of the A21RB
Great video 👍
Also, the swedish tech tree is missing many vehicles in the whole timespan, there will be many vehicles added to it time by time
A21 MEDIOCRE??
It turns so well and has amazing guns! The m/49 rockets have 500mm of HEAT penetration, you can use CCRP wirh the bombs, it's a great little plane when used with it's strengths and weaknesses in mind, namely understanding how to have enemies overshoot you or that overall it's a fragile plane, but you can fly back to base with a missing wing without problems
It's a great, you did no justice to it.
B18 are also amazing, ESPECIALLY THE T18B WITH 20mm, a 57mm, and a LOT of powerful rockets, all paired with amazing flight performance for such a big plane!
The Ayit is very fun
Id like to see the swedish tech tree turn into a split tech tree with both flags being on the icon🇫🇮🇸🇪
let's go the final part is here
Naval nations when?
What is the Finnish man’s TH-cam channel. I can’t find it?
Check the description, tell him I sent you
I don't agree with the A-4H in airrb, it can absolutely decimate in downtiers when you load a single gun pod. I used it to grind the entirety of tier 7 by bringing 4 firebombs and a gun pod. It can seriously switch from bombing to fighting after you destroy a base. Uptiers can get tough when faced with afterburners, but its vertical energy retention is absolutely bonkers when in downtiers.
and the ayit is a cool, unique plane to fly. It's upgraded engine is noticable and having the 2 shafrirs 2s and the 2 aim9ds with countermeasures, you can put up a serious fight
Doesnt the saab 105 get a ballistic computer for bombs ?
Yeah for bombs, Missiles and canon.
“Let me be clear” 😂
Shout out to dyfen for the decal 11:42
I m a new player and my first country is Sweeden, atm i m at the first jets
It feels like you have the J22 and J21 reversed in this guide. The former is one of the worst fighters at 3.0, while the latter (while still over BR'ed) is an actually usable fighter with at least some advantages it can pull out against other fighters.
as a beginner myself im late to this video as im already tier 4 on the swedish tree feels bad man, i really feel like im at a disadvantage with some airplanes , to late to change to another now, ill grind to the top on it before i quit, i hope
You didnt diss the sakeen enough
Facts
Greetz and good new year
Happy New Year to you as well
Is the j21 bad? My experience playing it was awesome, one of the best airplanes I've had
All the people complaining that the J/A 21s are actually good don’t realize that they only seem good if you suck at the game. They have good guns, so bad players can win headons or spray with them, but at the end of the day they’re very free kills if you have the slightest idea what you’re doing.
Facts
Me who just started playing swedes: "well, that explains a lot"
idk, I have fun playing that country, and knowing it's pretty mid statwise makes me realize the game can be way funnier (I'm still rank 4)
Almost a year too late, i had to struggle, and i mean absolutely suffer through Sweden to get jets. And i started when i was a new player. Now i moved on to China and just bought the F-86F-30 and i now suffer from the worst MM in history. 8.7 vs 9.3 - 9.7 like wtf (edit: the F-30 if you dont remember, has zero missiles and zero flares fighting against jets with IR missiles and flares)
Can you do those videos again, but with all the new Planes
In the future
I love your content. I would like to see more content. Tho, i think you should upload more often. then you would get more views and to be honest. money
TH-cam is a hobby for me, I try to upload as often as I can but real life takes priority
@@skDoger I totaly understand that. I think a lot of people come for the quality so. You basicaly canot get faster reasonably. Good job on this one tho! Would TH-cam be your goal or would you like to keep the channel mainly the same?
@@yesak It'll probably stay this way for a while, although when I get my hands on some more free time I'll definitely try uploading more frequently
w video keep it up
I just wanna quickly get am f15 and f16 without having to grind whole of us even tho im already at tier 5
Finally the nations i main
But I also have a lot of read watch done in us uk germany and Soviet
Nice
The J29A is the worst plane i have played in the game by far. It literally does everything like shit. It does nothing well. Any other plane at its BR shits on it in every aspect.
What aircraft in the Isreal tech tree is best for researching fast?
you will find it hard to believe but the israeli ouragan is almost as compatible as the mig15bis, i have a lot of games on it. 4kd. amazing plane. if you dony like meteors its a good option, after that the A4H is probably gonna be the best plane at rank VI because the french is really bad.
You can’t jump straight to Israeli props you have to get a tier IV prop in America or Britain great video tho
J21 series bad at turning? what are you on
SK60 is awesome for CAS, the two guided missiles are the lowest br agms in the game and are two guaranteed kills, plus 8 500mm pen rockets that you can easily get another couple kills with once you get used to them. Also, "just use the gripen instead of the attacker viggens makes no sense, as there is 2.0 BR difference between them. Yeah they're awful, but explain why they're awful instead of just saying another plane is better
I’m swedanian and I chose Sweden
that was good english coming from a finnish person
Your english accent really interested
epic
Ratshit i started with Sweden, probably a month orso in rank 7 now. What should i go with mext
Israel is hell to play bro
The J 22s do indeed HAVE cannons. The 13.2mms are called AKANs - autocannons and are counted as such. Why? Because they can carry explosives. Hence cannon shells.