The Audi E-Tron GT Has A Monster Charging Curve! DC Fast Charge Test From 0-100%
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- Kyle is in Germany with @KrisRifa and his Audi e-tron GT. This car is built on the same platform as Taycan and therefore has the same 93.4kWh (gross) battery pack. In this video Kyle analyzes the DCFC curve of the GT and shows how it’s really the benchmark of production EVs today.
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Talk about absolutely insanity!! This thing charges like almost nothing else. Should we stage a charging race between this and the E-GMP cars? I think it will be close. Thanks again to Kris for letting me use his car for this test - please check out his TH-cam channel at this link here: th-cam.com/users/RiisfalchCars
Curious, i1Tesla didn’t seem to be able to get very fast charging with their Audi.
@@Fuzzbear Chalk it up to Europe's more robust DC fast charging network. EA, which is pretty much the only player in the 350kw charger range for the US, have been notoriously buggy in every youtube test I've seen, including Kyle's. The 300+kw chargers in Euro videos seem much more consistent.
@@Fuzzbear Looks like some E.A chargers are not fully aware of 800V batteries thus charged at 1/2 the max power allowed by the car. These types of problems will iron out over time.
Hey Kyle - are you still in Europe? Or back and you upload the vids when ready 🙂
@@BillB33525 Power demand is controlled by the car. That's why they work with everything from 50kW to 270kW vehicles.
0-80% in what 20 minutes? That’s just awesome really, all we need now is the charging network to catch-up and become totally reliable.
Taycan does that and is a Porsche.
@@gordonzola1412 Yeah they're basically the same car. What do you mean?
@@gordonzola1412 I am aware they are basically the same car
Could you imagine driving around your beautiful 100k car- from broken charger aimlessly to next broken charger at midnight on a long trip? Not me.
@@DelPhonic1 kinda my point, I own two Tesla’s (model Y performance and model 3 long range) and as much as I like this car I am not ready to use these off brand chargers until they are caught up with Tesla which will take a few years yet I think.
Man this Audi is a thing of Beauty. I like it much better than model S looks
Night and day
I think you're neutral when you assess cars - thank you for that
Honestly thought we were years from this kind of performance.
15k in chargepoint 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Yeah that is everyone's impression of evs. The tech is growing super quickly. Next year may be half hour full charge
Why? We do it fast with phones, why should it be more difficult with bigger batteries that can even be cooled?
@@Mr.Cheeseburger24 my man !
Great to see a legacy automaker take top spot on charging.
Why?
@@teslafudge1585 because not everyone is a tesla fanboy.
How did you notice he was a Tesla fanboy 😂😂
🤔.... just curious how this work long term......
@@SDot-dp9xm will see
Kyle and kris both post very informative and enjoyable content. Thank you both.
Great explanation of the charging curve. So many people new to EVs are just starting to tune in to the idea of owning their first EV. They need to understand you don't DC charge for a "fill up."
What an Amazing car. I look forward to the Lucid test.
Bring on the Nerdy!
Dude, love your.... "energy" and play by play commentary on charging!
Great results. Make me wonder though what we will see a few years down the line. Are they reformulating the equivalent of the “lifetime fluids” promise where things are designed to last just until the warranty ends? I’d lease it, have that great recharge experience, then evaluate the buyout as time goes on.
2 years later and this is still one of the best curves in the market!
Really impressive charging curve and it does appear to have hit some thermal limits in the 80s. If you have time, a 50-100% test would be great.
Really cool to see this
Ridiculously good.
would be interesting to see how those batteries degrade over time, there are probably some long term impacts of such a charging curve
tesla batteries go down on charge about 6% in 37k miles so quite a lot. We gonna see about these vag products I suppose.
@@hagestad average tesla is 10% every 200,000 miles,
the first couple percentage goes down very fast but slows down dramatically by 95% original capacity.
@brotinger_1 its actually worse from 90-100%, the cathode expands the most at this stage and is very chemically reactive since technically 80% charge is full and 100% is overcharge, a 100% charge battery will catch fire much more easily than a 10% charged battery, but if you go below 0% charge you can cause major damage very quickly.
ITS AWFUL YOU LOSE THE INITIAL 10% WITHIN YOUR FIRST 200,000 MILES AND THE NEXT 10% OVER THE SECOND 300,000 JUST AWFUL 😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
332km ON A FULL CHARGE 1100 CYCLES TO 80% SOH = 332X1100= 365,200kms TRAVELLED. YOU WOULD NEVER FAST CHARGE EVERY TIME
Great curve. Bullish charging. Really great that the Audi gives you all the info.
But it lacks battery temperature indication which Taycan provides.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Strange trade off
This was great, thank you man.😃
Awesome charging speed! Nice one Audi. 👍
Question for you: I use my car (2024 eTron GT Premium Plus Performance) primarily for daily driving so I really don’t need to charge it up above 80% ever. Should I charge it to 100% every now and then to use the whole battery and drain it all the way down as well or just go to 80% twice a week like I usually do? My daily commute requires me to charge to 80% twice a week, usually Wednesday and Saturday/Sunday (to be ready for the work week). I want to maintain my batteries as long as I can.
Do you guys have any information on how to precondition the car?
After a 20 minute drive and 25% I barely get 88kW, only once have I maxed a 225kW charger.
still feel the charging curve of the etron55 is really all you need. I just wish that drivetrain would be used in several other more efficient models. The Q4 for instance, is a missed opportunity.
The Ionic 5 seems to have a hard time with temperature sensitivity when it comes to the rapid charging that it can do according to Bjørn Nyland's Hyundai Ionic 5 1000 km challenge through Sweden.
It rocks! I am seeing 269KW , WOW!!! So cool. 😎
Wow is that in Unterhaching, Munich? That's like 5km(3mi) from where I live
I would just add that there is a realistic use case for 0-100 % charging. Here in Europe as a lot of people live in flats with no access to overnight charging, you would charge it like a gas car - go, fill it up, use it until almost empty, repeat.
Ok, tell me why you would fill it to 100 % if you could fill it to 80 % thrice in the same time?
@@abraxastulammo9940 because it will last me 5 days more?
It's great how fun you make this...
I mean, it is fun, just the curve is fun, but doing play by play and commentary, my kind of sport.
My biggest Taycan issue now is that ID.4s and MachEs take the 350kW EA units leaving only the 150kW for me. I think of it as a kindness to my battery though. I did a lot of fast charging when I first got the car.
Amen, Ron. I've had that happen 2 of the last 3 times I rolled into a station w/ 350 kW chargers. The good news is that the Taycan charges brilliantly on a 150 kW charger holding really high rates deep into the pack. The bad news is having to learn that while parked next to a functional 350 kW charger.
Out of curiosity, How does the charge curve look if plugged into a 400v charger (like a 150-200kW unit)?
Can we make a community real work spec sheet across EVs? The real work range, charge times (0-80, 10-80 0-100, ect) kWh/mi, kWh/k, ect.?
I'm sorry I don't have it, but I think there is one that TeslaBjorn has put together and is floating around in the description of his videos.
I don't think there are any technical differences between the taycan and the e-tron gt in terms of battery and management. Small parameter changes in temperature or charging station can already make a difference in charging behavior.
I have only seen these type of chargers at McD in Södertälje!
More than 1400 across Germany, also at McD Gardermoen/Oslo for example.
Sick car!
Wow 😮 .
Charge on!
Only If the chargers are all around the country. i think that my MINI won’t be too shabby.
I've been charging RC lipo packs like this for 6 years now.
Fact is I can do 90% in 15 minutes if I'm not worried much about degradation.
These smart charging algorithms are way better for longevity though. Great to see it's here.
Now they need to get the charging reliability so that it works when you plug in the car the first time. Porsche Taycan had to try two or three chargers per station sometimes when they plugged in.
Etron GT went 1085 km yesterday, no charging problems except one retry.
Total time: 10:35 h with two very slow roadworks and one accident which lead to a complete standstill.
@@abraxastulammo9940 great to hear thanks for the feedback. How many charging stops did you have to do and which one was the retry on? Electrify america?
@@lousogoodx This was a challenge between an e-tron GT loaner driven by Michael Schmitt and a follower's Model 3 LR. There were 6 charges (to optimize the charging window), exclusively at Ionity 350 kW and EnBW 300 kW stalls. First charge took place after 250 km. Target speed was 110 mph or 180 km/h where possible.
Consumption around 30 kWh/100 km.
There is a multipart livestream as proof and you can see the single problem at Ionity at th-cam.com/video/-_D2FqOKReg/w-d-xo.html
@@abraxastulammo9940 thanks for the info. Electrify America has been very poor here. Glad to hear things are a little better in Europe so far. Watch Out Of Spec Motoring channel for the video video evidence of the US charging network failure for the Taycan. It's buried in the hour plus long video but it's there for sure. th-cam.com/video/IFg8LaZFqYE/w-d-xo.htmlm31s and th-cam.com/video/IFg8LaZFqYE/w-d-xo.htmlm58s and th-cam.com/video/IFg8LaZFqYE/w-d-xo.htmlm25s and at least 20 times more. Early technology so can only get better from here.
Amazing!
Good looking car
and that's why the e-tron gt does 1000km in only 9h 35min according to Tesla Bjorn
And that is why the etron GT could not be beat by Model 3 LR in a 1080 km highspeed trip around Germany despite its better efficiency.
The M3 is a smaller car.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Preferable car the Etron.
Looking forward to see what the rivians can do
Nothing Rivian can do.
I just had 100kW up to 91% (starting at higher SoC so less Peak Currents). Here Battery must have been super hot from the first 10min.
Can you compare price and performance of Tesla as gold standard vs Vinfast EV. Which should I buy?
Curious what the implications are for battery longevity
Time will tell, but theoretically, DC fast charging should be significantly less stressful to the battery in these 800v systems than even a lower charging rate is in a 400v system.
@@MrAlfable who all is using 800v systems?
@@laloajuria4678 Yes, I should have been clearer, DC fast charging in an 800v system is less stressful to the battery than a lower rate of DC fast charging in a 400v system (ie 200-250kw in 800v is easier on the battery than 100-150kw in a 400v), but in either system AC is always the easiest on the battery.
@@mattbrew11 Porsche, Audi (the GT only, the SUVs are 400v), and Hyundai and Kia's newest offerings are using 800v (and I believe I read Lucid is a 1000v system).
@@MrAlfable No, that is not correct. There is no less stress on the battery in an 800 volt system. Arranging the batteries with twice as many cells in series and half as many in parallel results in half the current in the cable connected to the car, but the current in each battery cell is the same in either arrangement.
What other cars do that? My spark EV is 20 mins 0-80 and 30 mins 0-100
Nice analysis..Are you an Electrical Engineer ?
I think the regular E-tron can match that. Have charged from 10-100% in 45 minutes. And that's a 400V system.😉👍🏻
But how far can you go on a 15 min charge? 🤔
That's why comparing percentages of SOC is pointless. You should compared real world range added per charge time.
No way. I’ve fast charged an etron like 10 times, never seen it charge ANYWHERE near as fast in the real world. More like 2 hours 10-100%. Also when doing this in even remotely hot weather (above 80F), etron doesn’t give you cabin AC because it prioritizes battery cooling. Etron GT is a significant improvement with the Taycan 800V system but their gen1 400V system sucks. Not competitive.
@@MsShots123 10-100% in 2 hours.😳 I think you must have taken wrong between an E-tron 55 and a Ford Mustang Mach e.😂😂
@@abraxastulammo9940 It's another battle that the E-tron GT will definitely win. This time it was from 0-100%.😉
I would like to see a charge starting at 50%.
The biggest problem is alot of these chargers are broken half the time.
Those are very reliable, I think they use some kind of aircraft power modules.
Why on 322 kms on a 85 kWh battery. Is that based on driving style ie heavy foot 🦶
Yes, based off of driving style on derestricted autobahn
can the audi Q4 etron do this too?
No, the Q4 etron is similiar to ID4
Q4 has no 800 V power!
I refuel my TDI in 3-4 Minutes and have 1300 km range.
Nio is doing fast swap stations.
I'd like to see a race with this Audi and the new Tesla model S.
Kyle, this test shows that the Audi e-tron GT only has a range of 206 miles, that's really low. Everyone does not like to charge as frequently as you do. During the day I only want to stop once to charge on a trip during breakfast and once during lunch at most. I don't want to have to worry about finding a charging station every 175 miles and have to stop and charge 3 or 4 times during the daytime for a 750 mile in a day trip. I need a range of around 300 miles, so I only have to charge at most 2 times during the daytime and once at night at a hotel's level 2 charger while sleeping.
Here is the daily charging routine I like for a 2 or 3 day road trip:
Charge No. 1 (at night) - Depart at 4:30AM after Charging at night with a level 2 charger at a hotel or at home to 100% with 300 miles or range and travel about 250 miles in about 3.75 hours which includes one quick bathroom break at a roadside rest stop.
Charge No. 2 - Charge from 8:15AM to 9:15AM during breakfast to 95% to 100% and leave with a range of around 300 miles and travel about 250 miles in about 3.75 hours which includes one quick bathroom break at any roadside rest stop.
Charge No. 3 - Charge from 1:00PM to 2:00PM during lunch to 95% to 100% and leave with a range of around 300 miles and travel another 250 miles in about 3.75 hours which includes one bathroom break and arrive at the hotel around 5:45PM for dinner and a relaxing evening and go to bed around 9:00PM so we can get up around 4:30AM the next morning.
Total distance per day would be around 750 miles which is our max.
That's the way I like to do road trips in an EV.
It’s a guess-o-meter range calculation after being driven at max speed down the autobahn all day
If you drive slow you can get 560 km out if it, this is 348 miles.
@@OutofSpecReviews Oh, I see. Do you remember about what your average speed was?
@@abraxastulammo9940 That is impressive, but when you say slow, about what speed is that?
@@Jeff-wb3hh It was only 49 mph average with 4.2 mi/kWh or 238 Wh/mile tested by asphalt. Art channel.
As general rule of thumb I assume for every 6 mph or 10 km/h faster speed a 10 % higher consumption.
Kyle, as much as I enjoy this video & the info is import to know how each car handles a long section. I do believe a 10%-80% test would be more beneficial to your average car owner. Thanks to the team for the video :)
You can just extrapolate that data from this video - Kyle
19:3.58 minutes:sec
the giant GT
100% still only shows around 205 miles (US) of range. This should be more than 250 miles for best use on road trips. What does it actually do?
Now AUDI just have to how long do battery life will be ????
I'd probably say 10-60 & 10-80 charging tests as those are more 'real world'.
It'll be nice to have a 300 mile range
Serious question...can we trust the software? Anyways that poor battery.
Apparently Kyle got tired of the repetitive "this is not normal usage" comments on all the other 0-100% charging videos. Might be good to see a graph comparing the latest Tesla version with all the 800v systems.
I've got an S on order but I have to say that car is pretty and love those wheels.
@De A "cAnCeL tHaT tRaSh"
Close the kitchen cabinet!
It did set turtle mode at 15:34 into the charge, though it claimed motor overheat which doesn't make sense... is there a different message for battery overheat and why wouldn't it say that one instead in this condition?
You say “there would be no reason to do this”. Except people that live in an apartment complex that have no way to charge at home, They would want to do this..You got to look at the big picture.
Shmee150 😉
The area under the curve vs peak is a FALSE DICHOTOMY. It’s all about charging speed in mph across SOC.
This will change with climate, speed, rain...while the kW is comparable and a metric for charging tech lead of the 800 V systems.
@@abraxastulammo9940 but you can still make a useful comparison if you keep (or get as close as possible to keeping) all the variables the same.
@@rosalyschijf2157 It is 819 (e-tron gt) vs 452 km/h (Model Y LR mic) 10-75% charge speed per Bjorn Nyland's test, going about 75 mph or 120 km/h.
Those new Teslas only have a chance if you stop charging early and have ample v3 SC supply.
Impressive. I wonder how long term battery degradation will compare to Tesla if you do just this kind of fast charging. Please another video in 4 years :)
5:43 yellow alert, meltdown prevented, turtle mode activated 😂
The Taycan also had terrible battery degradation when charging at high speeds. Porsche warranty covers 160km or 8 years. They also assume 3 years /60k km / 80% min net capacity is normal as per their manual.
Post 2018 Tesla batteries experienced 10% degradation after 250k km. Even their warranty for a model S, covers 8 years or 240k km, with a 70% min net capacity.
And they made sure they did not run into warranty claims by nerfing the charge speed severely, so the car becomes really crippled for the owner without having a choice. 😬
Data source for the terrible degradation? I'm a Taycan owner and active on the forums, and nobody has been complaining of abnormal degradation. My own experience is that my degradation is unmeasurable after over a year and nearly 13k miles, with LOTS of DCFC in the mix. It's too early to know for sure, but the early owner experience isn't suggesting 'terrible battery degradation' at all.
@@coyotegeek But what we know is the Tesla Y battery can lose 1 % energy per day.
I'm looking forward to if you review the BMW iX xDrive50 sometime :)
The Porsche taycan also had a monster charging curve but then Porsche realized after a year that it was hurting the battery and recommended customers charge slower.
Was this published somewhere?
@@jghall00youtube deletes my link, here is a chunk of it
"The ‘battery-saving charging’ function will also be introduced in the existing vehicles, where the DC charging power can be reduced from 270 to 200 kW. According to Meier, Porsche has no doubts about the service life with frequent fast charging. “This does not in any way limit the warranty or guarantee of the battery. We are very sure that it fits,” says Maier and explains: “We have very conscious customers who have asked for this function. Those who don’t just want to have an espresso when they take a break from charging can also activate this function.”
As Porsche points out, the resulting lower battery temperature “leads to gentler battery charging and a particularly efficient charging process”. In addition, frequent fast charging extends the battery’s service life, which is likely to be more interesting for buyers of the vehicle, for example, than for lessees. The fast-charging map itself has not been adapted, yet the 200 kW can be maintained for longer with the reduced peak power and lower heating."
its pretty obvious this would happen when you use stack pouch cells and insulate them for winter range, but the Porsche engineers really wanted to impress people in the short term, they originally said the taycan would do 350kw in future software updates back in 2019...
@@miguellopez3392 As a Taycan owner, I can tell you that Porsche never promised a software update to 350 kW. I saw some writers and TH-camrs speculate about such a thing, but Porsche has promised 270 kW charging, and that's what the car delivers. The SW update in early 2021 did add an option to limit max charge speed, but it is not on by default, so I don't believe that Porsche is concerned about abnormal degradation due to DC fast charging.
@@coyotegeek i was early marketing material used before the car came out they said 350kw update by 2021
the Porsche has poor cooling, even a model 3 has better cooling and could beat it in a long enough race, this is what happens when you cool a battery from only 1 side and then insulate it.
@@coyotegeek hmmm that's too bad. Elon did promise 300 and 350 before long. We'll see.
Is that the model with recalls for faulty brakes, faulty software, faulty suspension, and a fire risk? Thanks.
I think that this charge speed will not help the battery live a long life, but still impressive. (Tesla has there special weird charging ramp speed for a reason) :P
It charges up to 80% in 21 minutes, very impressive!
But then I remembered something: it's an inefficient energy hog...
According to Bjorns range test in Noway at 120kmh (75mph) the 100% range is 235 miles (from its huge 93kwh battery), so 80% is 188 miles.
So it adds 188 miles of range in 21 minutes or 8.9 miles per minute (nice!).
I couldn't find numbers for the latest Model S which is a better price and vehicle type comparison (and I suspect would make the numbers even worse for the Audi actually due to the S's efficiency and range) but looking at your Model Y LR charge curve which I assume is the same as the 3 LR and Bjorns range test for the Model 3 LR:
100% range at 75mph on the 3 is 262 miles (from its smaller 82kwh battery) , so 80% is 209 miles.
Charging to 80% on it takes 31 minutes so it works out to 6.7 miles per minute.
So the Audi, curve is adding real world range a third faster than the Tesla 3 (yes I know their peak speeds are closer).
That *should* make the E-Tron GT the fastest on a road trip but in reality Bjorns 1000km (620 miles) test took 9hr 35mins in the Audi and 9hr 20mins in the Model 3 LR... Close enough to not matter but from specs and curve tests the Audi should have won, so I suspect needing to stop more frequently to charge due to less real worlds range and that your charging curves may be an example of the best of the best, what a car *can* do if the stars are aligned but the reality of what we will experience on a real world trip is still quite different is what keeps it behind, e.g. this video were the Audi just got creamed so not even close like it was in Bjorns test:
th-cam.com/video/6nNYkqAF1kI/w-d-xo.html
Not the Audi's fault, just the reality of third party chargers etc.
The Audi could not meet optimized charging stops at first due to the weather, it had 21" wheels and we came to the conclusion the Tesla time was ultimately better, because it drives faster at the same indicated speed (uses gps reference maybe)! This is a noticable difference within 1000 km.
Tesla fanboys disliked this video :D
check out his Plaid video. Here is what I found with my Plaid: So after 20 minutes of charging this car is at 78% SOC with a estimate range of 259km or 161 miles. The Plaid after 20 minutes of charging at 61% SOC and according to my Plaid with 19" wheel it has an estimated range of 240 miles. At 30 minutes E-tron GT 87% SOC estimate range of 291km or 191 miles vs the Plaid at 77% SOC and again according to my Plaid it should go 308 miles. I am really trying to understand how this car is better. So far my efficiency is at 290 Wh/mile after 732 miles with two trips to the 1/8 dragstrip with 4 passes and one of them a 6.03 @ 121mph lol.
@@juanmedinar20 Problem is, in order to get maximum charging speed on Plaid you need to discharge it very low. Now everyone average consumer will be doing it. Majority of people do not discharge below 10-20% probably.
I thought teslas tech was untouchable🤣
Let's see the tesla fanboys reaction.
Wow
@@laloajuria4678 😂😂😂
Lol..... and right now it is.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷🏾. Couple of things to consider.... 1. How plentiful are the 300kw chargers? I willing to bet you can find more high speed Tesla chargers... 2. It took 1 hour to put 206 miles of range on a new ev... you think it takes that long for any modern Tesla? See my 1st sentence....
This is very good, did Bjorns 1000KM in only 9 hrs and 35 minutes, 2nd fastest car ever, behind only the Tesla model 3 at 9:20. That a mix of charging and efficiency for the overall picture
Meanwhile VW group is holding emergency meetings about "Tesla's tech" 🤣
19 minutes for 5-80% (~200 miles) .. that’s good, but nothing stand out or worth the charge curve hype. Glad to see it performing well.
Porsche Taycan does the same, and you know it.
It’s the same chassis and battery with we are sure similar management, of course we know it.
@@OutofSpecReviews and it keeps going after 80%. I have a Taycan and the charging speed on Ionity-chargers at 85% are 95 to 105 kW.
@@MrStian78 Feel free to upload a video as proof.
Kyle sounding like Joe Rogan announcing a fight. I love the passion
@@laloajuria4678 How about an early Joe Rogan would that be better?
17 minutes to go from 20% to 80%? With a 300 kW charger? That is adding, according to your driving style, 159 km of range in 17 min. That is simply not enough. For that price range of a car. And you cannot find a 300 kW charger at every corner. I love EVs, they are the future, but buying suc a car at this price and this state of infrastructre is throwing you money away.
We have lots of 300 kW chargers now, if you drive it just to 20 % and complain about lack of range you are doing something wrong. You should land in the 5-10 % window, navigation system is good enough you don't have to have range anxiety.
According to the stats on the Audi menu, the 5 - 10% window is 17 - 30 km of range. And no, there is no abundance of 300 kW chargers lying around (in Germany), 150 kW - yes, 300 kW - no. Audi claims 499 km of range, but if you drive it like would normally do then it is around 350 km. In 5 - 10 years, this will be a completely different scenario. Now, buying such a car, its like burning 100.000,00 €. It is an expensive toy. That will be totally obsolete in 5 years.
It's a shame it consumes 40% more energy than competition (Tesla). That curve would be even greater if the energy consumption was comparable. Now, it's just slightly better (or not at all if you are using the newest stuff from Tesla) miles added/hour despite the great curve.
How much does the competition need at 110 mph?
There's not match for Audi, bar Porsche. What a shame really lol.
Soo no comments on the 2 errors ?? first one at 5:44 it reads "Motor Warning Limited power" battery at 67% second one at 8:13 reads " charging system: car is not fully charged, seek workshop" battery at 90% ?!?!?
Oh that’s what those messages were saying! So similar to Taycan where the battery gets hot. I don’t understand German and I thought it was just messages because I left the door open. Thank you so much for sharing! Same as I’ve seen before then but still charged well.
@@KyleConner actually It is Norwegian 😀 NP.
Such poor miles per hour added tho’. So it’s interesting that it can handle the power, but the effects of poor everything else means it’s not adding much RANGE.
Charge curve from 50 % will be poor and not worth it.
Do i well understand ? The Audi has gained 332 km in about 1h and that’s a crazy curve of charge? How much km will a EQS or a MS gain in 1h ? For me it’s not the pourcentage of charge but the range gained that is important...
We have to wait for Kyle's 75 mph test in this case. German Autobahn means 150 mph opportunities and corresponding range. 🥰
I think fat E-tron is faster to 100% than this car.
Not interested, I can't buy a reasonably-sized EV from Audi in the US. I wish they offered an A3/ ID.3 EV here.
% charge is a bit of BS, what is a superior real world standardised test is
1 time to charge 100miles from a pack charge of 10kWh (or pre-determined real world safe low state)
2 add a variable 0-15mins for all brands/charging that requires unnecessary navigation to chargers beyond 3-mins detour to route charging
3 add a variable for how reliable a charging network, chargers and billing ACTUALLY is.
That way, you'll find a real world reality as to why Tesla and Supercharging network is way, way, way better and overall faster and reliable, wherever the network is offered.
In Germany most SC are v2 with 150 kW max. and some distance from the Autobahn so it is the other way around and Teslas have to charge at 300+ kW HPC if they want to travel quickly.
@@abraxastulammo9940 great feedback, but to my point, that means that Tesla in Germany are say 25mins, whereas e-Tron is 13mins.
Rather than %, we should have a standardised USEFUL measure, not something, as a parallel Tesla Plaid 0-60 in 2.05s, which is, for the most part, useless.
@@dominicmcnamara I can't really contribute to your method but what is interesting is the (older) Model 3 LR and e-tron GT lost about the same battery percentage driving the same route on the Autobahn.
So, comparing % while charging might not be so unrealistic at all.
So after 20 minutes of charging this car is at 78% SOC with a estimate range of 259km or 161 miles. The Plaid after 20 minutes of charging at 61% SOC and according to my Plaid with 19" wheel it has an estimated range of 240 miles. At 30 minutes E-tron GT 87% SOC estimate range of 291km or 191 miles vs the Plaid at 77% SOC and again according to my Plaid it should go 308 miles. I am really trying to understand how this car is better. So far my efficiency is at 290 Wh/mile after 732 miles with two trips to the 1/8 dragstrip with 4 passes and one of them a 6.03 @ 121mph lol.
Good luck trying to time a stop to 1-2% preconditioned AND find a suitable charger
Yolo master is yoloing. ^_^
The media's supposed "Car of the Year"....... That literally is a complete flop selling less than 3000 units.
Such a large heavy battery for so little range.
Bullshit, the range is great for such a sports car
Yes, EPA really underrates this car and Taycan - you can’t look at that number and understand the full story
@@OutofSpecReviews I wasn't talking about epa numbers. Ive seen other results but are still poor in my opinion for the amount of money spent on a vehicle of this *perceived* caliber.
What excactly do you expect ??
Tesla fan boy, not everyone cares about ultimate range, some of us want to drive a stylish car with a beautiful interior, not a sterile car with an economy car interior and middling build quality. I charge my E Niro every other night at home or at work so I don’t care about 400 mile range. 300 miles is the number.
beautiful car, but at the same price as the Plaid for such poor range and performance.. who is buying this? :\
Define performance - it’s not just straight line acceleration
Oh look a Tesla Troll.
People who cannot get a Plaid because it is too late to the party...mayor of dusseldorf switched order from Model S to EQS for example.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Nonsens. The EQS is just bester.
@@cartmann227 It even has pulsating safety belt locks!
We have to stop talking about percentages. it's literally pointless as it normalizes longer range cars to lower range ones. I can charge a 2 mile battery to 100% in 19 seconds, so pointless metric.
This car just took an hour to get 206 miles and we are supposed to be impressed by a charging curve? Not remotely
Which battery can be charged to 100 % in 19 s? I think you don't know what you are talking about. 🤔
The car took less than 20 min for 10-80 %, the charge to 100 % is just for information purposes and completeness with no real world meaning.
Shitty range on the Audi. I heard it was terrible in relation to the battery size
Almost as good as Tesla Model S, just slightly less.
@@Hyrppa95 ...and the battery is actually slightly smaller. Accounting for that difference, it's about the same at higher freeway speeds.
Risk damaging your car in order to do this test! SMH.
It’s operating within designed parameters, nothing should damage it