Features In Your Car That Make No Sense At All! | Spark
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- Does ADAS really work? Today? Do sunroofs really make your car more premium? Some of the no longer optional features we get in our cars today, argues Kartikeya Singhee, work rather well in places where the weather, traffic and environment is not like it is here in India. Should you not have a choice to choose smarter options for ourselves then?
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00:00 Glass Buildings? India?
01:53 Assisted Driving!
02:43 Sunroofs? India?
04:05 Do You Need These Options?
05:38 Simpler Systems Work Better
06:38 The Choice Should Be Yours
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While my friend was buying a new SUV, I suggested him harrier, and another friend suggested creta. But he went with bolero neo. His point was, that car has ac, car is built to last, can go many places, fancy SUVs cannot. Moreover, he drives majorly in rural areas, broken roads. He may be driving on Yamuna expressway once or twice in a year, majority travel is in villages. The day I rode with him, I understood, how much of a clear idea he had on his requirements. That car went through every muddy, dusty, broken road like a charm, ac was cool, car was sounding like mini truck, but on such roads, it felt home. He asked me, where will the ADAS work on such roads, why would you take a dust bath by getting out of the sunroof, when you have the privilege to stay clean inside the cool car.
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Bro the sunroof thing is the most useless thing I have ever seen. Our car has one but no use in this weather. Good for your friend really a practical person.
Your friends raised exactly the kind of arguments I raise when buying a car. One of the reasons why D segment sedans lost out to SUVs - roads
@@doncorleone9297 Virtus can correct that problem
India is not a matured automobile market. They sell features than good engines and suspension setup due to which we lost duster ,polo,ford etc. It is simple as thst . People don't even realize the stupidity behind sun roof ,360 camera etc. They all are driving the car like drones being controlled and their spatial orientatij is declining
Kartikay and Shumi have become the voice of reason in the Indian automotive scene. MotorInc speaks up for what truly matters, cutting through the noise of flashy specs and features.
Thank you! We are in this together.
It honestly feels illegal to watch such good content for free. You both are incredibly adored by us 90s kids!
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Your glass building segment is so so true. From participating in the solar decathlon in college, I've found that they're straight up detrimental for India and huge money and power has to go into air conditioning these buildings. Sunroofs are exactly the same. If I could opt out of them I would.
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This channel talk , about logic, feelings and passion combined with important criticism loved every second of all every video keep it up
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
@@motorinchow many people make up the Motor Inc family??
Thank you so much for pointing out ADAS. I'm 26 and in no way too old to get used to new technology , and i struggled to keep those systems working on a test drive while the sales team raved about it and were enlightening me about the importance of safety 🤦♂️
The sales people were obviously doing their jobs, and well. ADAS as a system _does work_ but in more controlled conditions like you see outside of India. The systems aren't evolved enough or powerful enough to process our traffic yet is the point Kartikeya is making
Thats true and i agree with him completely. Indian driving conditions are far too unpredictable for ADAS to work well.
@@motorinc even sometime those sales personal are super confused too.... and quite few time they admit that too " it's unnecessarily way to dificult".
I would like to see high-beam-assist as a standard or maybe even a mandatory feature. The amount of times I get blinded by on coming cars with high beam is insane. Even after signalling the on coming car with my highbeam some won’t budge and force me to slow down or even stop when I can’t see anything but the light. A major safety concern. Brands and regulators should do something about this..
Excellent recommendation!
Very well said sir! Truly captivating stuff, you had all of my attention for the entirety of the video. One more thing i'd like to add is HID/LED white lights, most streets in most "other" worlds have streetlights, even massive 20 lane highways are lit up adequately and so using white lights on low beams do not hinder visibility, however using white lights on Indian roads is a sure ingredient for tragedy. White light doesn't cut through fog, rain or even other lights very well. Example: a shop just around a corner with white lights could easily hide an oncoming car's white lights with its own lights. Orange/yellow lights on the other hand will definately cut through the white lights from the building and thus letting everyone know that there is a vehicle on the other side of the corner. Another one is the horrible high powerd glare that blinds everyone at night. Lets face it, most Indians on roads have zero civic sense or consideration towards any one/anything, using low beams is like commiting sacrilege to them.
💯 Thanks for sharing your perspective!
100% agree with you. The white LEDs blind you, & you want to hate yourself for ever wanting to drive.
1. You have to name it Bullseye.
2. This video is the culmination what I expected when MotorInc started and you've bettered it by wrapping it in 7:27, Kudos.
3. I have wondered and first hand experienced the issues with glass buildings. For anyone interested the glass buildings take in fresh air only once in X days(typically 7) and recirculate it over the entire week since it takes energy to cool the hot air around. Just stand within 2-3 feet of a glass panel on a sunny day to experience. Sunroof are the same.
I put the glass buildings, sunroofs specifically in the "aping the west" category. ADAS falls loosely in it though.
4. Eagerly waiting for the airplanes 😀
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Great point #3!
I think they should integrate something related to high beam in ADAS
I completely agree you on all these points and I think for our country we should focus more on features such as ventilated seats and high beam assists. In my opinion these are more useful in terms of features and will be used on a regular basis rather than something like sunroof which for me I use once in a blue moon. We need to focus especially on bringing high beam assist to the mass market vehicles as I believe it will help a lot.
Spot on!
In addition to getting high beam assist as a standard safety feature, headlights in future models should gradually be made to switch to projector to reduce the glare caused to oncoming traffic. Also, external accessories, like, High intensity Xenon lights should either be regulated like the horn decibel level or should altogether be banned
I wish there was a cheaper alternative technology to make High beam assist attainable on every car in India. It will be transformative to Indian night time driving scene. It should be made compulsory like 2 Airbags and ABS.
@@ayushmehrotra2639Please, don't wish for a ban. Some cars have extremely poor headlights. What is needed is education or hight beam assist.
Regarding sunroof, that is why I like TATA's strategy, they give sunroof as an option. Both Hyundai Exter and Maruti Brezza's top model has sunroof without the option to opt out of it. I don't want a sunroof but I also want to buy top model, but I have no choice.
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I haven't seen many sunroofs, what exactly is the problem with them? Do they let in too much sun, are they not covered underneath?
@@semicharmedkindofguy3088 there is nothing inherently wrong with them just that they are hardly used for their intended purpose in india. Mostly as status symbol and amusement
@@semicharmedkindofguy3088It’s one more point of failure, if the seals get compromised its one more place for water to leak through. It adds to the cost of the vehicle since the structural integrity is compromised because of a gap in the roof line, so more material is required to reinforce other places. When our cities are suffering from extreme air quality issues, what is the purpose of having an extra window when we are anyway not opening the rest of them. It’s purely just vanity.
Exactly, couldnt buy a top trim Venue because I strongly didnt wanted a sunroof. I had to let go 2 step recline, auto climate control and some other important functions.
Finally someone said it!! Thank you! With these so-called add-on features the cost of the vehicles goes up by 8-10%.
One more thing which I am not very comfortable is having all buttons touch sensitive! We should have physical buttons/ knobs atleast for volume and AC controls!
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I completely agree. I would like ventilated seats rather than a sunroof. In fact I couldn't care about most "connected" features as I never used them. Most of my driving is in the city on regular routes so I don't even need navigation. But prefer the convenience of keyless entry and push bottom start, but I can't can't pick and choose what works for me. I have never used the wireless charging on my car either. No one in my family has phone with it. Most who spend sub 10 lakhs on a car don't spend a lakh or even halfa lakh on a phone. 🤷♂️
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The only connected car feature I use is check my fuel level as Suzuki stops showing the range once there’s low fuel. I think that’s when we need it the most
Yeah instead we are getting heated seats..in Chennai hot weather 🌡️🌡️
Every single sentence you’ve said, sentiments alike. I totally concur with you, we as buyers must have the option to opt out. ADAS to a large extent is pointless in India. Sunroofs are acceptable, but panoramic sunroofs! There was this rich dude who parked this S Class beneath a coconut tree and guess what? After that , the rich dude didn’t feel happy whatsoever. We too don’t need Panoramic sunroofs on our Kia’s n Hyundai’s. Give us, the buyers to option to choose.
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Exactly, couldn't buy a Top trim Venue because it had a sunroof which I strongly didn't wanted. Xuv 300 W6 variant had almost everything earlier but mahindra just removed the useful features and added a sunroof with an increase in price. Tata is good at this because they do give an option to choose. Consumers are clearly the reason 🤷
clear,crisp and to the point... as they say sometimes keeping it simple is the best way forward.
Very thought provoking. I live in Dubai and the features that cars come with here are a mixed bag. Some safety features are great but some equipment like leather heated seats, heated steering wheels, giant glass roofs, gimmicky ambient interior lighting and a bazillion driving modes are just a few of the features really not needed here. Oh and yes the screens are getting bigger and bigger. Having owned a couple of top spec cars I really have to remind myself to use of these features with no real reason. I force myself to drive on a cold night to use the heated seats for example...lol. Bottom line, if I simply want 5 relevant features I end up having to pay for 10 more irrelevant ones and not to forgot the higher cost of maintenance thereafter.
That's exactly right! Thanks for your perspective!
I like how calmly and thoroughly this has been put through. There's absolutely no flashiness or loudness to create any bias. Just somthing that makes sense and makes it clear for someone to make a purchase. It really feels a conversation even though its a one way communication. This is very rare nowadays.
Thanks Sid!
The Sunroof thing was spot on. I don't know why people are crazy about it and I hate when I see kids sticking out through it while running.
For me Armrests don't make any sense. Yeah I drive a manual but even if had an automatic I would still keep my both hands on steering wheel rather than resting one on some cushion. Afterall I don't get tired while driving
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You are the only person in TH-cam, sounds clearly normal even in 1.5x speed 😂
Love you guys ❤️
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It is high time that car buyers get the option to customise their vehicles even before they get built on an assembly line. It would give the customers the flexibility to choose what they don't want in their cars, e.g sunroofs. On the flip side, it will also allow the customers to opt in for some good features which are only available in local car markets. Some good examples are factory fitted seat covers and noise insulation on doors.
First of all, thank you for the great content!
To be very honest, only we are to be blamed for the way the market is today. Most of us value bling over function and safety. We have started treating our cars as gadgets, rather than machines which would transport us from one place to another safely, comfortably, and reliably (driving fun is subjective though). We believe in the spec sheet more than the actual feel of the car on the road. We show off our brochure!
We did not buy enough Fords, Fiats to keep them in the country. Cars which were fundamentally brilliant, safe, dynamically capable, but lacked the "fancy" features: fairy lights inside out (now some offer tubelights too), touch sensitive buttons, a hole in the roof. Yes, they had their flaws in terms of aftersales, but we did not give them a chance even when they tried hard to rectify themselves. That is why, in India, good cars do not sell.
Manufacturers take this opportunity to reserve basic features like a rear wash and wipe, auto dimming IRVM, only for the top trim. I remember a certain vehicle which offered a sunroof, but did not have a rear wash and wipe! I do not blame the manufacturer. They are here to do business, and they know which configuration would sell.
Bang on man.
Yep when Ford left we felt the loss of a lot of great cars from various segments. Nowadays I see people showing off in their endeavours which I feel is completely justified coz they deserve to do it. It was an amazing alternative to the fortuner. Now my hope is for Nissan to make their huge comeback and at some point in time bring their terra to India which is a very vfm alternative to the fortuner.
A reflection of us. Right? Which is why we are keen on having these conversations here. You should have them with more people too. 🙏🏾
@@motorinc This is exactly what differentiates MotorInc from other channels. You guys truly focus on the livable aspects of a motor vehicle.
I like how you are summarising the top end Honda elevate fir me, how I don't like the adas which could have been efficiently substituted for a hybrid system
Glad you guys brought these points. We as a society are deviating a lot from real meaning of an automobile. Keep going hard and smart!
Appreciate with the thought about practicality and showoff. Especially when you spoke about the sunroof and why exactly it was made. It would be really helpful if you could make a video or shorts on the actual reasons of few things which were implemented into the car as necessary rather than gimmick and contemporary design like manual key hole if in case the key battery drains out, rear defogger with wipers to heat up at cold weather, fog lights for actual illumination in foggy/cloudy weather below the bumper compared to now which is in headlight level and are LED not halogen or projector, magazine holders etc, just to name a few. As a car enthusiast and owner there are so many things which were implemented in the car in terms of necessary, technically, practically and precautions which has now turned into features, trims etc and few which have disappeared which sometimes feel a negative impact onto the customers by brands. Cheers for your work :)
Thank you so much Yogesh for taking time out to write and share your thoughts!
I have been thinking the same regarding sunroof for the past 6 years😅, but sadly no car gurus pointed out these things. I love you guys. Absolutely amazing hearing you and Sumi
Thank you! Glad we are on the same page.
Great content team. Love how passionately you talk about vehicles and then things in and around it. A topic that you can cover is "dash camera". Front and rear with clarity, product recommendation & data storage
Can do!
What a smart way to drive your point home! Loved the analogy and the presentation is top notch as always ❤
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I felt the same when I was trying to buy a new car.. when you try to move a variant up to get few functional features alot of electronical unnecessary feature come along.. which may or may not add to ownership experience but they will increase the maintenance cost in the long run.. All 4 power windows and rear wiper with washer are one of the important features that are not added in the base variants so that you either have to pay alot more to get because there are other features adding up to the car or you end up tossing up the warranty by going to local market..
Agreed! Liked the equipment mix yiu are suggesting!
I discovered this channel serendipitously. Hallelujah! You guys had me from the start - the lunacy of glass buildings in India! Two thumbs up !
Thanks for bringing this point out. I agree with the point on sunroof and its limitations and had to buy the mid tier Skoda because the higher tier had mandatory sunroof and some other fluff which I didnt need and willing to pay for.
Hey SA! Glad to hear that! That’s well chosen.
There! Glad someone said it. Feels great when someone talks about what really matters in cars and bikes. Somebody needed to convey to the manufacturers that we need substance and don't really care about the styling accessories.
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Your videos remind me of James Spader giving his closing arguments as Alan Shore on Boston Legal. Effective, sharp and simply brilliant!
Hey this is very true. And can u guys do a video on the acessories that are actually needed on cars .
Hey Avi! Thanks for the idea!
Great content as always. Talking about things that nobody else focuses on. Benchmark automotive content.
Excellent analysis .. real eye opener to think really about safety and its support system with basic comfort on priority rather than gimmick features .. now a days most of the cars can do easily 120 kmph. How they handle curvy roads, sudden crossing of animals, changing the lanes, potholes while driving at 100 kmph matters most. Not the drag races on empty straight roads.
Point well made Kartik. ADAS is being aggressively marketed by few manufacturers and promoted by many TH-camrs as a useful feature influencing prospective buyers. Hats off to Tata & VW/Skoda for giving NSR top variants.
I forgot how much I like when you talk in videos. This video made me remember and I loved every bit of it. Thank you Karthikeya bhai.
Thank you Uttiya! ♥️
The new Hyundai Venue has a level 1 ADAS in the topend model with features like High beam, lane departure, etc. Would that be good deal to buy in this case? Cz thr price difference between adas and non adas one is hardly 25k @motorinc
Agree on all points. On the other wide regarding the glass buildings a person in constructuon field once told me they use glass becuase the timeline wth glass is much faster compare to concerte
I’m so grateful for this voice of reason Motorinc! Have been binging your content ever since the algorithm gods brought your channel in front of me.
India needs an automotive language of its own, not just copy and paste what’s working outside. We are a country with diverse road, terrain, weather, and traffic conditions.
Thank you and welcome aboard MotorINC
You guys make the best videos. Keep making more. Don't change anything. Love your work.
No plan to stop, Hari! Thank you!
Great content guys. You spoke about features which are rich in fancy but very less practical in usage. This can extend to the power of the vehicle that you choose as well. If some one goes for a higher powered vehicle (motor bike or car) and then uses it to the limit, then it makes sense. But majority of the purchases, specifically the younger generation just go for it to flaunt it. They hardly are able to enjoy the power under hood as they may be mostly driving it in clogged and congested urban set up. Do we really need so much power which will result in very high fuel consumption, when you actually dont need it? Are you helping the environment with that higher carbon foot print? Kudos to the team in bringing up more rational questions.
Hey Santhosh! Thanks a ton! You should speak up in your circle too. Will help!
Thankfully someone said this. We're just going to a place where adding more useless features gets more eyeballs. I mean WTF would you need a touch screen to operate AC, arm rest, sun-roof, etc. is just beyond me. It would be good if manufacturers gave us the CHOICE to opt out; which unfortunately isn't the case right now. I mean maybe I am too old school but I like the good old knobs instead of a touch screen (& it is safer too)!
Hullo RR! You aren’t alone! 😁
Finally someone said it!
I remember when I booked my polo back in 2020 everyone kept saying how it lacks many features and hasn't been updated and all of that.
IMO it had all the features a driver actually needs, cruise control, AC, A damn good engine, good brakes and a radio. That's all you need for a good driving experience.
I see a lot of them wanting alot of features in their cars which they don't even use after a few months of getting the car.
How’s it running? Thanks for sharing!
U spoke my heart out. I dont like both ADAS and SUNROOF. But I like other features and for some reason, I cant pick & choose etc when choosing a car.
I agree, when will we have cars with custom selection for few who are ready to wait and get what features makes sense or has value.
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As always quality content.. keep it up...
♥️ Thanks Ajinkya!
The only features I care about in a car as a 23 year old are Android Auto (a Pixel person) of the WIRED variety, ventilated seats and headlights that work at highway speed. Highbeam assist is good. And a telescopic steering wheel is a luxury that I enjoy being 6'3". That's it
Aye!! Telescopic steering would be a boon for you! Thanks for sharing!
That was the most calm rant I've ever seen. It is ironical that lot of cars still doesn't provide 6 airbags even in top end variant but ready to jump on ADAs and sunroof.
Hi! Great opener! I had the same criticism for our corporate uniforms or attires. Suits don't work with our environment for majority of seasons! And now back to the cars, I think this trend of providing comfort driven features goes across other industries as well and there's a voice slowly growing among people or will be soon in coming years "do we need that really? Can we do better?"
Absolutely! Suits in Mumbai or Delhi summers 😓
If you don't mind, can you share the link to purchase the T-shirt you are wearing? Really dope.
Stay tuned! Thanks for that though!
No words to express my love towards this channel.
Everything you talked about the sunroof is damn true,
I personally don't like sunroof bcoz of the exact reasons you mentioned.
All the best guys
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Bro my budget is 20 to 25 lakhs ex showroom price. Which car you suggest ?
Creta Nline or Seltos xline or Taigun GT plus or xuv700 or any else u suggest ?!!
Only one way around this is if the manufacturers offer a base variant and then give us options in the form of some default OR custom packages to personalize a car. Today, I do admit that even though a top end variant has all the bells and whistles, it does come with many extras which if excluded can make it better value. I still don't understand ADAS autonomous features OR sunroof OR panoramic sunroof for that matter when clearly majority of us don't know it's correct use. I'm sort of the person who wants certain features to ASSIST me in driving while keeping me safe and entertained in comfort with the car under my control. So, a manual gearbox, ventilated seats, blind spot monitoring, airbags, ABS, hill start assist, ESC, alloy wheels, cruise control, auto dimming IRVM, auto headlamps, rain sensing wipers, wired connectivity to the car's infotainment system, appropriate and a reliable engine (not the most powerful nor the most fuel efficient) plus adequate space for family and luggage. I'm all set BUT all I see today is forceful addition of a sunroof, connected and remote car features, excessive use of Chrome, wireless car connectivity, unreliable automatic, excessive power OR fuel efficiency, etc.
Wow. Volvo, Saab, Subaru spoke this language ... your conversation reminded me of when I got trained to write auto ads for real auto buffs.
Sadly in a large market like India even after two decades most cars are sold on features that are at best cheap imitations that are at best irrelevant. Keep sharing.
Thanks Surojit!
Can anyone tell me the advantage of having push start/stop button?
True.completely Agree... We are being made to pay For experiments which are yet to succeed. Many features are unecessary and perhaps useless too. Yet because companies think we need them its offered nonetheless. Its high time companies need to hear consumers. Thank you Sir for raising this issue. ❤
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@@motorinc 🤒.....aap bhi sir 😁
I always had this in mind, especially on the sunroof should be an optional thing. Like Slavia's 1.0 style Non sunroof version, every manufacturer should provide us an options to choose features.
Exactly. It’s not a small expense.
Totally agreed .. I bought Honda city base model on which only thing I regret is bigger wheel size . It’s conscious decision to make sure I getting-most of what I need
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Zabardast!
Wow!! Very well said. I see many journalists saying no sunroof in a 30 lakhs car blah blah. Finally someone has had the sense to speak the truth. One should make a choice based on their own requirements and not just follow the masses!!
We need ventilated seats more than bache sukhane wala sunroof😬
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Breath of fresh air, Karthikeya! Biturbo did it too sometime back and I THANK you folks for brining this up. We lack 1. awareness and 2. difference between wants and needs. That is where lies the point.
Hey SC! Thanks for sharing that! Will check out BT’s take too!
Great Opinion and great content
So true my friend. On similar lines, I had been wondering about touch screens on dash boards too. Some even go all the way in and offer all the buttons as touch instead of essential ones in analog.
I mean c’mon, just for turning on the AC I don’t want to take my eye off, focus on the screen area I need to click, move my finger towards and there I have the AC turned on .. quite possibly, in Heaven!
Car makers include features based on market demand, what people think they expect. And these people expectations stem from various sources without considering the local practicality. So they change has to be driven from both ways with the majority driven from the car makers.
Great point! Thanks Satish!
The points are spot on, I fail to understand to the obsession with sunroof but gladly avoiding the essentials like rear wiper and wash. Getting a well engineered product with essentials and less niggles is something of a luxury nowadays.
I really love motorinc,how useful the information is
Thank you for the encouragement!
I guess I'm the first one to see this video.
Great topic to shed some light on🙌
Informative content as always❤
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I was in exactly the same situation. I liked the Honda elevate top model but did not want ADAS and sunroof. I gave this feedback to showroom representatives. Waiting for variant reshuffle from Honda in the future.
Honda took too long to launch the right vehicle
Do you think they care about your feedback?
Hey BS! Please keep us posted on how that goes?
Well said!!
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I swear kiger makes sense to me as it doesn't have a sunroof but has 4 star rating of safety, Big boot space with trunk organizer to keep it neat and clean while keeping your boot of car clean whilst keeping necessary objects like a vacuum cleaner for car, tire blower and a lot!! It has a lot of storage spaces to keep stuff and still then sit comfortably sit on the car that a hyundai can't provide not even creta for instance. Plus the running costs are like Rs 6-7 in city. I drive only in weekends and only then the steering controls are a breeze to use to control the infotainment system of the cars. I put boot lights as a part of accessory but it's fine. I mean for city purposes kiger suits me the best without a compromise in safety. I really don't need that performance as I stay in city for 99% of the time. Buy anything even mobile phones, cars, bullets as per your requirement and stay satisfied. Hyundai and Kia sucks to the core. By offering such obsolete features at a high price. Just can't wait to see bharat NCAP be a reality that should say that a car can be an Indian/Bharat Car only and only if they get the min of 4 star ratings and a proper engine refinement. That's even when the maruti suzuki cars will also be better for the population. Else jo dikthe hai woh bikthe hai!
Thank you... Ah I love this channel, you guys are awesome.
Thank you for the encouragement !
I get where you coming from and mostly agree on everything you said. I use mg astor with ADAS. apart from the best feature dynamic cruise control which is not usefully in city. I have been saved twice by emergency braking . would highlight two incident, on a highway when on a not so fully constructed express way a s presso suddenly moves into my lane and brakes because a bus entered onto the highway from a service lane at high speed. I reacted immediately but the applied the breaks 1 second sooner . which made a difference of life and death. my car stopped literally just infront of the s presso with a gap of less the half an inch. the other incident was in the city when a bike entered into the main road from one of the lanes and because of teh building and tree i had no chance to see it. again car braked and released the break as if it new just that much was enough otherwise the vehicle at the back would have crashed into us. just highlighting the two cuz , that made realize I will always buy a vehicle with ADAS and both front and back disc breaks .
ADAS surely helped in both the scenarios that you mentioned.
Here is my opposite opinion! Please remember that I have never used or driven the ADAS feature. But based on people's feedback, I'm so happy to have that feature on highways. In fact, to make it mandatory by govt.
Here is my story...
My dad drove back in 2004 in a Maruti 800, and a speedy truck (uncontrolled by break) hit us from the back. Mother was sitting in the back, and we had to lose her after she had been suffering for 9 months. I feel all those suffering and losses are for nothing... if this ADAS is there in every vehicle 'on Highway'.
Another way to think is to welcome all safety features and put them under scrutiny, rather than just rejecting those, and anyone's suffering or losses are unnecessary.
Hey Praveen, really sorry to hear that. and, ❤️. You are right in that point - when ADAS is mandatory - like ABS is today. Then we are in a different scenario. Also the technology has to mature to avoid incidents that cause accidents too.
That's so true, I don't prefer sunroof, but I want the top-spec model
And ADAS, and powered seats. 😆
U just spoke my mind. In similar ways I think even auto headlamps and rain sensing vipers are also useless. I mean how much effort does it take to just move or rotate the light and viper stalks when required.
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I am in my early 40s and have spent all of my teenage years and almost all of my adulthood following up the auto market because it fascinates me. A car or a bike brings out the child in me, makes me feel young and enthusiastic. I have seen how the automobiles have evolved through the years and how it has changed the perception of an average buyer. From asking the basic questions about fuel economy to prioritizing safety, we have come a long way.
I totally agre with what Kartikeya is saying and strongly believe that as a buyer, we should have a say while spending our hard earnd money on what we need insted of what a manufacturer is asking for as a package.
As a buyer, we should be given some sort of customization by car manufacturers.
Thanks Kartikeya for saying what needs to be said. 👍
You're so welcome, Neeraj!
Found this channel now.. You are my fav automobile expert you not talk bullshit features like others you talk about practicality.. But dont change channels bro.. Because of you only we subscribe to youtube channels..
This was spot on and so relevant in the car market right now. Great content as always!
Thanks Indraneel!
Love the way you deliver content.
Exactly on point, we should be asking for features relevant to us and not to follow the herd which is going somewhere else. Completely agree on giving us option to select from what we want and can choose for what we don't want to pay for.
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Hello Kartikeya Sir,
Relaly a big fan and admirer of your verdicts and critics since long, since autocar to be honest. Well, this is just a healthy suggestion to the amazing new channel/video. This video, quite informative, but a couple of more features explained would have made it a gem (maybe like LED "Fog Lights" fog lights in general for that matter) cause many people fall in todays trap or are forced to buy these features.
Anyhow, great work sir as always :)
Psssst..I could also come of use to the channel unlike these useless features. (Just saying)
Cheers!
Hey UB! Thanks for the recommendation and the offer! 😁
Superb video
People rave about sunroofs and about not having one.
But is there a need for it, with it comes maintenance of the rubber seals closing mechnism etc etc.
Some of the videos criticize tata for having a small sunroofs on nexon kya tata sunroofs kisliye hota hai....
These are never used for what they are intended. But to People stick out of them.
Glad to see journalists talking about These points as well.
Most of the times it is this company neeta to catch up there are these featurws offered by competition.
More sensors More points of failure
Like pilots drivers must be trained on bare bones cars the safety features are a bonus to prevent a mishap
Please make a video about the high beam pandemic....
Parked cars also have high beams on...
Thank you for the suggestion. We can make a video on it.
Brother, can you please review MG Hector 2023 CVT Petrol version...top model ...I'll be grateful.
it is mentioned in global ncaps testing page that yes a sunroof or moonroof is also tested in case of crash
Yes but to make sure it passes the test, the engineers have to add more metal to the structure, which you get to pay for is the point Kartikeya made
Thanks a lot for telling the truth . I faced similar issue recently when I was buying a car for my father. He is a new driver and it was very difficult for me to convince him to go to automatic variant. Same thing happened while choosing variants. Now everyone wants features that are little to no use and cars are moving away from driver centric to being entertainment centric. The biggest Irony is White fog lamps. Most of the cars don't have the required safety features like BSM, lane assist, Automatic IRVM, camera, TPMS, seat height adjustment, Tilt and telescopic adjustment on steering, Automatic highbeam, etc. If they have, you have to go the most expensive variant. But stupidity like non usable roof rails, sunroofs, big screens, alexa integration, etc are available as addons from early variants. I bought a car in US, and they offer security features right from base variant or as an addon on any variant. Indian consumers need to change their mindset first and car manufacturers will respond accordingly.
Great video! Although you left me on a cliffhanger. Please tell me what you have to say about aeroplanes and people in aeroplanes 😂😂
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True. It’s sad that brands don’t let you be in control of the purchase.
When I was going for the Dominar 400, I was being sold the “touring version” equipped with what Bajaj calls “panniers” and knuckle guards and stuff. When I asked them to just give me the bike as a stock piece so I could add aftermarket panniers and knuckle guards, I was told that it wasn’t an option. Weird how illogical a brand’s sales channels can be, really.
Exactly!
Authentic, very well put across! Definitely agree with ADAS level 1!
We need a video for bike/scooters also!!! Great video 😂🔥
There is something to what we marketer call as loyalty beyond reason, which basically means a customer is choosing you beyond rational reasons and it takes time to build same for any brand out there, but for most of us Motorinc has gone even beyond that in such a short span of time. You guys are amazing, thank you for delivering such great automotive experience.
Hey Himanshu! Grateful to hear that. 🙏🏾
At this point of time.. i am more than confident in saying that this level of sense and articulation can only be found at this channel.. many ppl now days gets influenced very easily with the marketing and ever so increasing list of youtube channels.. need more content like this to filter some sense out of all that noise
I'm driving 1st gen Ritz diesel, apart from boot space I'm very happy with it and have clocked 1.4L kms and feel it's still got juice needed for more distances. Now I need a bigger car mostly for space I'm literally overwhelmed by the choices we have especially the list of features.. I find them more distracting than of help or maybe I'm cluncky. Yes makes sense to keep it simple and driver feels more in control of the vehicle. These newer models aren't easy to decide + TH-camrs reviewing everything makes it even harder to arrive at a decision.
Loved the little rev counter on it! Thanks for sharing your garage with us!
Today Kartikeya woke up and chose violence! Talk about stirring the hornets nest and boy do these two do not fail to deliver. Everyone says ADAS and sunroofs is what will make your purchase better and Kartikeya is like,"no friggin' way!". I wholeheartedly agree with the sunroofs. So much so that I now share a pet-peeve of children sticking out of sunroofs with Shumi and shake my head every time I see one. And the ADAS being default on certain vehicles. It should be on offer as an add-on because that is how a lot of these technologies evolve and get refined. ABS is an example of that. It was rudimentary when first launched and is seamless now even on many small motorcycles.
Cheers to you for this video today. Would love to see more of these "calling out the nonsense" videos and I have genuinely never been as excited for an upcoming TH-cam video as your impending aeroplane one. You two have double-handedly(?) brought back joy to watching Indian moto journalism. You and Shumi are the kind of people I wish I had as friends helping me when i was starting out on my motorcycle riding career. I did it the classic way of making mistakes and learning. Now there is motorinc for the current graduates and I feel happy for them. Keep up the stellar work and most of us sensible people will wholeheartedly support you. Have a great day, Mr. Singhee!
Wow! What a huge compliment you've paid us Aamir! Thank you so very much!
@@motorinc Nothing that isn't deserved. After the debacle of a rather promising venture I was cheering for but quit almost 18 months back because it had become what it was trying to change. Now I use my compliments in a more measured manner and I do mean every word of what I said . Eager for the aeroplane video. Can't wait. Ditto for ThisConnect season 2.
Spot on . Thanks for raising our voices
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This is a much-needed conversation to have in today's time as having more features in one's car has become the latest fad and people keep on complaining about how the electricals of their newly bought cars are misbehaving, I mean, what else do you expect, you are getting features available in luxury cars at a fraction of the price, Quality won't be as good as those present in luxury cars because of the use of inexpensive parts, I understand these are feel-good features but, at the same time, basic features like day-night orvm, fog lamps, rear window defogger are not offered as standard.
In the end, I would like to add that we as consumers should educate ourselves more on this front and demand the necessary features as standard as the manufacturers are simply meeting the demand of the customers, the more educated a customer is, the better his judgement will be and hence our manufacturers will churn out inexpensive sensible products with more focus on the necessary features rather than on the luxury features.
Spot on!
Loved the whole "what" "why" being addressed, I don't see many of them talking about it. We are becoming too obsessed with these so called "features" which are mere gimmick for our conditions. Thank you MotorInc, I wished the manufactures didn't force these features to us on the top end , (especially where 6 airbags are thrown)
We have to ask! 😃
Your through seems like spiritual peaches, gentle and calm.😊
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You just spoke my mind about glass buildings, sunroof and ADAS2 in India! I have no idea how these make sense here
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OEMs must provide an option to opt out for sunroof in the top variant as well. Also customisation should be an option before buying a car.
@Motorinc But the problem is they are offering all major features only with sunroof. Ex: Exter SX comes with sunroof and 15' wheel whereas lower variant exter S comes with 14' and no roof rail. I would definitely not need sunroof but due to other features such as 15' wheel I booked SX.
Congratulations! When are you getting it?
@@motorinc That's a mystery. It's been 8 weeks since I booked. But no clue from the dealer. He says it wil take min of 2 months. Waiting period is way high for this car :(