Why do we Love the Sun & Moon? (A Daycare Attendant Analysis)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- The Sun and Moon are two of the most popular Five Nights at Freddy's characters of all time! Shocking, right? Well, how about today we break down why and maybe we'll figure out why people love the Sun and Moon, and how that love might've affected the future of the Daycare Attendant and the Eclipse. But how could that be? Well, let's find out!
Music:
Lovable Clown Sit Com - Sir Cubworth
Superstar Daycare - Security Breach
Sleep No More (Unused) - Security Breach
In The Garden - Godmode
Henry's Theme - Dayshift at Freddy's
Legal Woes - Pizzeria Simulator
0:00 Meet the Daycare Attendant! (A Brief Intro)
1:15 Why the Skrunkly Smiles Work (Appearance)
3:13 Sun's Bouncy Movements
4:27 Moon's Incredibly Satisfying Animation
5:24 Why Personality is so Important
6:16 The Sweet and Stressed-out Sun (Sun's Personality)
8:18 Sun's Not-so "Sunny" Temper
9:46 The Fanon take on Sun
10:16 Menacing Moonman Goblin-Clown (Moon's Personality)
11:19 Fanon's Misunderstood & Soft Moon
12:30 Sympathy for the Ruined Moon
13:36 Did Moon Used to be Nice? (Cassie's Comments)
14:54 Headcanons and The Sun & Moon Show
15:33 How Fnaf's Fans Humanized Animatronics
17:46 Finding a Lost Childhood Through Fnaf
19:13 How Sun & Moon Heals the Inner Child
21:22 For Kids!... But for Everyone!
22:26 But also, everybody loves clowns!
22:48 Eclipse as a Love Letter to Fans
24:00 How Ruin Flips the Script (& A Happy Ending)
25:31 TLDR, Why we love Sun & Moon - เกม
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As someone who was instantly and has been absolutely fascinated with the Daycare Attendant since I saw him in-game, I am glad that someone finally addressed and explained the phenomenon of these two astronomical jesters having an entire sub-fanbase of their own in the FNAF fandom. The way people are held on a chokehold by Sun and Moon (and to an extent, Eclipse), expanding on their characters by giving them creative and detailed designs for their appearances, flashed out personalities, full on backstories, showering them with headcanons and even explaining how their transformation works is astounding. And with the release of the DLC and the introduction of Eclipse as being actually canon and being gentle, whimsical and calm unlike the way the fandom usually portrays him, of course the fans will have more material of the Daycare Attendant to further interpret and expand on his lore.
But what I mostly liked about this video is the explanation of Sun and Moon inducing feelings of nostalgia in fans. As you explained, the Daycare Attendant is the embodiment of people’s favourite childhood memories, and so is the Superstar Daycare itself. I personally feel emotionally connected to both the daycare and the Daycare Attendant because of this, among other things about them that I love (such as Sun and Moon being themed around celestial bodies). I remember when I was a kid, I would frequently go to attraction parks, and my favourite attraction was a combination of a ball pit and a jungle gym with slides. I used to have so much fun in that place, and I wish I could go back in time to live those moments again. Seeing the daycare in the game reminds me of those good memories.
This is why the FNAF fans love Sun and Moon so much. They bring comfort to us, and this is what makes them almost every DCA fan’s comfort character.
Jesus Christ u tryna write a novel?
I ain't readin all that lmao
@@Zipesthemanokitsame here
don't forget the simps, a lot of simps for the daycare attendant
I very much agree and to be honest, just like Sayu from No Straight Roads I had a vision of these two once I heard from Cory that this new FNAF game was coming out soon-Kyu. Now that alongside the DLC, I highly expected them to be popular yet…NOT THIS POPULAR! They are in fact new characters in the entire franchise after all and I am already starting to like because I believe they share my personality and in my opinion they are just beyond cute and enjoyable-Kyu🥰🥰🥰
Hey this is comment has a pin
Wait WHAT this is a graphic novel
Honestly, I think Sun and Moon gaining significant attention is probably for the same reason Mangle became popular in FNAF 2. They excel at their roles and possess a unique quality that sets them apart from any other animatronic.
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Hi Sean Robert
Mangle was my absolute number 1 favorite for years UNTIL Sun was introduced and now they're tied, so you must be onto something.
I don't really have any reason behind it other than "I just think they're neat"
Lolbit, funtime foxy and mangle r my top 3 so it makes sense I was so obsessed with mangle in my early year of high school
And the lore. That was a big part of Mangle's appeal. They were destryoed by kids and was put in the playtime corner because no one knew what to do with them.
To be fair, Gregory never tried explaining his situation and asking Sun for help, he just stays mostly silent.
Fr, don't blame Sun for Gregory's consecutive bad decisions smh
He didn't even say ANYTHING
Meh
@prufan
And that makes me wonder, why didn’t Gregory explain not just to Sun, but to Freddy exactly
The real question is why Gregory was there in the first place and is there something he knows about the disappearances?
@@olivesholives5736 idk if I would just sit and talk with a hyper active robot, especially since all the other robots so far were trying to catch your ass
This fanbase from what I’ve seen is very easily pleased. Forget the convoluted lore- we’re starved for characters that have more than three voice lines. Give fans something with a little substance like a Jekyll and Hyde dynamic and you’ve ensured your next five games are gonna be bought just so people can hopefully see their favorite characters.
Your not wrong about the easily being pleased LOL😭
That In simple Words Is capitalism.
Im a simple person. I see *neurotic* *clown* *nanny* , I fanon.
hell you dont even need to give them personalities, just look how absolutely feral the fandom (me included) go over bonnie and glamrock bonnie
The moment I heard a new Moon laugh I got excited
To be honest, I don't think Moon is actually evil, (as you said) just VERY mischievous and probably unintentionally creepy in his behaviour. Again, as you said, his jumpscare doesn't involve him grabbing Gregory or doing anything physical. Moon might be genuinely trying to get Gregory to sleep, he's just going about it in the wrong way.
As for when he appears outside the Daycare, it's hard to say why he still chases you but I think it may be because of a tampered security protocol, likely thanks to Vanny. Or it may simply be because Moon's programming is mistaking Gregory for an animatronic. This is because the dread unit had a cut voiceline for the power diversion where it mentioned a "retrieval unit" being deployed to send all the Glamrocks to their recharge stations. This retrieval unit is obviously Moon.
It's never hinted or mentioned in the game that Moon is working with Vanny either.
I mean in RUIN, Moon's jumpscares have him strangling Cassie, then again... It is an effective way to get someone to sleep (just not very safe-)
@@stephaniesheep1147 to be fair, he was in pain in ruin and Cassie was purposefully making it worse
@@AnitaHaven Moon is only in pain because of the lights and Sun constantly constradicted him. Otherwise he is fine, likely the finest of the shattereds
I didn’t know about him being a retrieval unit until this comment and that would explain a lot about why he’s… like that.
If an animatronic gets low on power not only will they be difficult for a person to move, any staff handling them would have to be pretty good at improv to keep the kids happy if this happened while the animatronic was interacting with them.
But if a mischievous courtly jester shows up to pull them away for nap time, that’s a whole lot more efficient and easier to explain.
(Come to think of it, if you accept that Vanny’s tampering is making Moon (and likely sun) more extreme, it makes sense that without it he’d be a kinda mischievous little guy, since that’s sure how it feels to be awake during nap time.)
I think Moon is also programmed to search for children who sneak out during nap time since a small toddler getting out and getting lost in mall would be bad PR
I actually think that both, Sun and Moon, are infected by the virus.
Moon is clearly affected, so why not Sun.
The way I understand it, the virus doesn't just activate "killer mode", but it amplifies certain aspects of the animatronics personality by a lot.
By doing this, the animatronics become dangerous.
You can even hear that in some of the voice lines of animatronics like Monty or Roxy.
Monty is aggressive, but should never hurt a child. But if this character trait is amplified, then he attacks people.
Roxy is really competetive and hates losing. Even in her voice lines you can hear that she is suddenly much more aggressive.
Chica... well she likes food and when someone is hungry, they can get aggressive I guess...?
Anyway, back to Sun and Moon.
Sun has no personality trait that could be amplified to the point until he hurts or kills someone.
It's the opposite.
He becomes too caring and can't differentiate between a toddler or older child.
He doesn't let you move around, because his protective personality is amplified. This is probably why he can get distracted by making a mess, since this behaviour is also amplified.
Moon on the other hand has a personality trait that can be amplified to the point until he hurts or kills someone.
He wants you to go to sleep. If you don't, he will force you, even if he ends up hurting you. He even goes as far as leaving the daycare, which he probably shouldn't, since the daycare is the only area he is responsible for.
Also, amplifying the "wanting you to go to sleep" aspect, could also result into him killing you, so that you can sleep... forever.
One thing I wanted to mention:
Monty is already known to be aggressive against others, like against Bonnie, this could still be because of the virus.
They are already infected, even before they become aggressive. They probably have already been used to hunt down previous victims.
Altough the virus isn't always active to make them aggressive, it still causes some problems outside of that.
This could explain Monty attacking Bonnie, or Chica suddenly eating trash (I think there is one message you can find that says that Chica started doing this recently. This could have been the virus messing up her programming and amplifying her hungry personality even outside of the "killer" mode)
Yeah I think good sun eclipse Charlie green virus vs Purple glitchtrap burntrap William virus moon evil sun eclipse is good Charlie and roxy is green when you put on vanni mask moon is evil William bunrtrap glitchtrap there purple on moon side of his face when put vanni mask on and purple on eclipse sun represents Vanessa charlie the good and at day and at night Moon represents evil William vanny glitchtrap burntrap also Charlie bracelet is green like Roxy when you put on vanni mask but also William glitchtrap burntrap is green and purple.
Roxy is green like Charlie bracelet when put on vanni mask so green Roxy sun Vanessa at day mean good and at night evil purple vanny moon William glitchtrap burntrap there's purple on moon face when you put on vanni mask.
Charlie puppet green good virus vs William glitchtrap burntrap purple evil virus to. Also helpi has purple veins at the side of helpi head when his eyes turn orange and helpi inserts something into Cassie's brain to glitchtrap burntrap William. But also green and purple is glitchtrap burntrap to so.
@@rad1165 ehm... those are certainly words...
@@obambagaming1467 this is just a theory .
@@rad1165A WORD THEORY
@@scarf_girl yeah
I feel part of this animatronic’s appeal is what I call the Destroyah effect. Basically an antagonist who isn’t completely unique or original, but when applied to a franchise it’s never been done in before, it stands out. It’s like seeing a tall person standout in a group of people.
Is it weird that you can make a comparison between a daycare robot with split personality disorder and a demonic kaiju?
@@irysgundam0052 Not really. I’m not exactly a philosopher, but after jumping into Bungie’s Marathon Rabbit hole I realized you break almost everything down to key ingredients. It’s mostly just how it’s presented, public perception, personal preference, etc. it makes you feel cynical at times, like I REALLY can’t enjoy modern Disney, but it makes the stuff you enjoy WAAAAAY better….
But don’t touch that fucking rabbit hole, it will fuck with you.
I hate being the tall one lol
Destroyah is so cool.
Word. :) @@genericname2747
Because they’re new, cute and loaded with actual character, unlike the dead children variant number 472 that has absolutely no character
That's why I wish the movies would give the kids personality. Or Micheal. They're supposed to be the most important and tragic characters and they could be swapped out for a cardboard.
I just noticed Eclipse having the night cap along with Sun’s spikes, and I think that’s what makes him look the best, the combination of them both softened him up even more and really made a subliminal change to him. It’s like a dog dropping it’s ears to show it being relaxed, or a cat slow blinking. I don’t know if that makes sense but somehow that’s the vibe a simple change to their head silhouette made.
I JUST noticed this, I'm glad you pointed it out. I specifically thought of how a dog with droopy ears looks.
The Daycare Attendant has been my hyperfixation since January this year, these two became such comfort characters to me after a big scare regarding a family member. I feel happy and calm whenever they occupy my mind or watch any content containing them. I love these bois very much.
I ser your comments in ALL SAMS VIDEOS
@@utufuuni373Yea
@@utufuuni373 Well I mean, they did design Earth’s new body and make thumbnails for them
I think we can agree that they have quite the connection with SaMS/LaES 😂
Honestly your thumbnails for the channels are probably one of my favorite things the art is so good
I think it's the eccentricity, nervousness, and his smooth bouncy animation of Sun and the calm, menacing demeanor of Moon that really draw me in. When I saw the animation of Sun falling off the desk and Moon pulling himself up onto it, that really made the push from "wow what an interesting new character" to "I genuinely love these two menacing goofballs."
You know it’s a good day when both Mathew and not real name talk about daycare attendance in the same week.
Who’s Mathew 😭
@@CottonCandy26456matpat
I thought you meant the actor for Aubergine Shaggy in the new Five Nights At Scooby 1 movie (not referring to the fan animation).
@@wafagdplqs4421 Oh-
I put matpats real name MAThew-PAThew
. . .
Anyone else really like Shandzii's interpretation of Sun and Moon?
It falls into a lot of common fan interpretation, as mentioned in the video, and also kind of falls into some canon as well. Sun clearly shows signs of anxiety during bits of the "Ask Sun and Moon" comic, and Moon shows himself being mischievous and playful with the children while also unintentionally scarring them.
I love Shandzii's design of them! The puffy sleves they gave Sun and Moon plus the bigger eyes and expressive face makes both a whole lot more adorable 🥰
@@amiiredhead2676 I KNOOOWWWW🫶🫶
Honestly for me, its the fact that they're daycare attendants who's good with children, that have kind of a "I'll protect you vibe". Along with all of the built on headcanons on how they may deal with the kids and their potential problems, in such a kind and gentle nature.
They just kind of heal all of the past trauma that we might've endured as children, by being that one comfort person/partential figure or friend, that we've all needed in our lives and maybe never got. (At least for me lol)
Low-key, seeing all of the headcanons of them comforting a lonely/bullied child, or when they're having a nightmare, or helping out kids with potential troubled parents and making them feel safe and etc. Like that just warms my heart and somewhat heals a part of my childhood that was unfortunately not so lucky.
Because they're unique in design and personnality. They're very expressive in their voices (Kellen is goat) and movements. Besides, this is a very complete and in-depth analysis of the characters, their impact on the Fandom and why they are interesting characters on more than one level. A dedication I just love about your vids !
It REALLY helps that despite the franchise's huge roster of characters, the grand majority of them could be replaced by cardboard cutouts with a tape recorder glued to the back. Really only William Afton, Puppet, Circus Baby, Glamrock Freddy, and Helpy have anything going for them beyond being a loud game over screen. And I'm still on the fence about Helpy.
Fr fr
Don't forget HandUnit.
Don't forget about Phone Guy! Even though he isn't an enemy, he still sticks out
Don't forget Roxanne Wolf.
Don't diss my boy Helpy he didn't break his back and do your taxes for this disrespect smh 😤 (/j)
I love the Daycare Attendant! One of my favorite FNAF characters, Kellen Goff's performance on them is phenomenal! I'm so happy they called him Eclipse in Ruin, He's such a great character, I really hope Eclipse returns in another DLC or more chapters (If they make them) where he helps Cassie out, I want to see more of him!
I don't know if RUIN will be the last game where DCA appears, but I'm going to cross my fingers in the hope that he will return in a future FNAF.
I would legitimately cry if Ruin is the last time we see the DCA
@@stephaniesheep1147 uhh prepare to cry then, it is mostly likely the last time we will see theö
@@bj_bj 😭
They could put a jpg of the two in the back corner of a future game and I'd still be clapping and cheering like "There they are! There's the boy!!"
Hopefully sun would be actually revealed as the prick in the relationship in the next one
I think Fanon and canon (biblically accurate) are both good, but that being said I do want to kiss their dinner plate of a face
Same
Also I know a fic about that if you’re interested
Spill the beans >:)@@PossumsAreNice
@@PossumsAreNice you have peaked my interest
For some reason I’ve sent the link twice but TH-cam is deleting it
Sun's silly. And moon is skrungly.
Enough said!
Nice
YES!!!
Facts!!
I going to guess because although tragic, the other animatronics are antagonistic murderers, making them less sympathetic. And because Sun & Moon are way more friendly and have no dark past version unlike SB's Freddy (ex: OG Freddy, Funtime Freddy, Nightmare Freddy, Golden Freddy, Shadow Freddy, etc.) making people view them the new colorful and happy characters characters they are. The only argument might be Moon, but, he's not nearly as scary as any other popular animatronics or their variant, he's more of a weird company descision (like do they want lawsuits or not).
The other animatronics are only attacking you because they're corrupted by a virus. It's not their fault. I know you said they're tragic, but still...
The only exception is Monty, as it's all but outright stated he killed Bonnie before the virus came along.
@@mr.machine3328 "as it's all but outright stated he killed Bonnie before the virus came along." There's a bunch of things that don't make sense if it was Monty, also it might have been the virus affecting him.
@@mr.machine3328 i meant the murdered children thing mostly
@@josephseed9164Oh you meant the animatronics from previous games? I thought you meant the Glamrocks.
Marketability to fandom culture. I knew this dude was going to be everywhere from the moment I saw the design.
Honestly they dont really have much merch? and their designs are probably kinda hard to capture out of games and drawings, atleast compared to other glamrocks..
@@L0rdOfThePies They have almost as much merch as the other animatronics, best plushies and figures by Funko.
@@prufan that’s interesting, ive only seen the figures and the shirts before
I've always loved acrobatic, wiggly characters and characters that use that to be creepy and growing up Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was my favorite book growing up. So these 2 instantly clicked, but I am not a fan of the fics that humanized them. Two of my favorites are I See you, Sundrop and Permission Slip and they both do the boys perfectly to me
I dont mind then being humanized, but i do dont like when they become "masterminds". And yes, "I See you, Sundrop!" and "Permision Slip" are amazing fics
OMG i read I See You, Sundrop two weeks ago and it’s still living in my head rent-free. i was not expecting to be interested in sun and moon for more than a few days and then that fic blew it into a weeks-long obsession
YES I read permission slip a bit ago!
Permission slip is so good!!!
Bruh I already have a lot of fics I'm reading on these 2 and now I got 2 more. xD
In hindsight, it’s very surprising how little character the animatronics had up until security breach. Here, I adore the daycare attendant’s split personality, between neurotic & anxious, and psychotic & sinister. I much prefer him as one multidimensional character over interpretations of two separate, and consequently flatter individuals.
And that feeling of nostalgia for places and experiences your young self has never seen, that you dedicated minutes to explaining, there is a word for that feeling; anemoia.
It’s very telling how accurate your liminal space take on things is because the moment you began describing the room with the dollhouse, I got this pressing ache in my chest and felt the small lump in the base of my throat that I get when I’m going to start crying. I do agree with your take on wanting that childlike experience again as an adult. Hell, I pretty much confirmed with myself that I want to do childish things again just yesterday when I decided I wanted to make dolls to play with.
A flash of an idea came to me and I may have to write it as a DCA trio fanfic, maybe a reader insert. A janitor character maybe. They’re shy about the fact they still like to play with dolls. One night while they’re cleaning the daycare and chatting with Sun/Moon/Eclipse, they let it slip that they bring a few dolls with them wherever they go because toys help with their anxiety. After a bit of convincing, the Daycare Attendant(s) get them to agree to use one of their breaks to sit on the carpet and just play. It’s simple, very clearly imagined with a self insert, but something I feel would sort of help with that insecurity of enjoying childish things
That sounds like a wonderful fanfic! 8D Absolutely go for it! I think a lot of people would definitely go for it. In fact, drop a comment if you do, because I'd love to read it. ^_^
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 With a positive response that quickly, I may just have to, haha- Thanks for the encouragement. I’ll be sure to drop a reply and/or edit the comment to include the name of the fic if/when it’s posted c:
WRITE IT please write it and send it to me so I can eat it
I beg you, do It, please it'll be soooo goooood 😩
That fic idea sounds delightfull, you shoukd go for it, if you want to. :3
I find the daycare attendant to be a very unique and charming character that FNAF somehow created. Sun is highly cheerful little goofball who is shown to be pretty stressed while taking care of kids but still tries his hardest on making sure they are safe. Moon on the other hand creates a more unnerving yet also calming presence on making sure kids stay asleep or as he say that bad children will be punished if awake. Personally I love this duo not only does it create a unique twist to the FNAF animatronics but it also creates a new story line behind the lore that can create a new chapter to something else that FNAF has never done before.
I do think the (incredibly easily missed) jumpscares that they have in Ruin are worth examining too. Like a lot of ruin jumpscares, they are much more elaborate and aggressive, but they have an insane amount of personality and nuance to them. Though i realize theyre less applicable to explaining the fandom presence of the characters.
I think people also underestimate how popular "Sun and Moon" charachter trope is. The duality is so easy for understanding and is so open to the further interpretations I'm actually convinced it's hard to make bad characters based on this trope... Also I just realised Sunny and Moon are so super-simular to Sans and Papyrus it's uncanny. 😮
No they are not similar to sans and papyrus at all what
@@thegongoozler8539 they are color palette wise but other then that no.
Why do people love them? Because they are the best.
Sun and Moon do have cut voice lines saying "I'm putting you in time out!", which could further hint that Moon isn't out to hurt Gregory.
The books also got Roxy wrong, a character described her as having "an inherent lack of empathy"
A timeout could've been an interesting mechanic for moon to have. But of course, we got the half baked power redirection sequence
That voiceline possibly just what Moon supposed to say everytime when his hunt time begins, in which you will get jumpscared if you don't revert the power back at the time limit, similars to what a time out is
in a world of fnaf creators who only theorize and nothing else, you stand out with a lot of heart in your videos
Thank you so much! 😊
- Very tall and very skinny
- Brightly colored jester
- Larger than Life and somewhat sad too
- Fidgety Mess during the day, Possible Murderer at night
- Gay little hops when they walk
- Can fly
- Voiced by Kellen Goff
👍
from what i've seen, the glamrocks seem to be the group of animatronics that the fandom has unanimously wanted to avoid hurting, yet they're the only ones that we're forced to hurt against their will. if it wasn't for this love of the characters in Security Breach, i doubt we would have gotten Eclipse's kindness, Chica being fixed, or to a greater extent, Roxy being implied to be a an outwardly friendly and supportive character to the point of giving her life to save someone
I fell in love with them because they had the perfect balance of information and mystery, unique designs, and were both sympathetic and unnerving.
Starting with design, they're not anthropomorphic animals, which already helps them stand out in a franchise of animal animatronics. The jester theme is also a standout in the glamrock setting. The fact that they are so jarringly different made them stick out in my mind. The puffy harem pants is a nice balance to their spindly torso and arms, helping to keep the silhouette from looking too much like the Puppet's. And of course the color pallette is perfect. Personally, I never really found their mask-like face unnerving. I loved the way it was designed.
We knew (before Ruin) that Sun was in charge of keeping the kids entertained and safe during playtime, Moon took care of naptime and night sercurity, and that at some point Moon became corrupted by Vanny to become hostile and kidnap children. The little information we were given about them allowed fans to go wild coming up with theories. Maybe Moon was a sweet gremlin before the virus, maybe Sun missed his counterpart, and then what of the enigmatic Eclipse from the Balloon Boy game? All of this made the Daycare Attendant fun to contemplate.
Moon's game of hide and seek was probably the scariest part of the game (when it didn't glitch). The dark maze, his gravelly chuckling, those two red dots watching you from across the room...The stuff of nightmares. But Sun's frantic eagerness to please and genuine fear of his other half makes him, and then his lament in Ruin along with the 1-generator jumpscare where he tries to stop Moon, makes him beyond pitiable. You just want to give the skrunkly boy a hug and a new box of crayons and glitter glue! And again, how soft Sun is brings into question if Moon was always so scary.
And then Ruin showed us that Eclipse is a cinnamon roll and we collectively lost our minds.
I think a large part of their appeal is that they’re simply a breath of fresh air. Think about it, nearly every single animatronic in the franchise is some kind of animal (excluding ones like Puppet, Circus Baby, and Ballora). Sun and Moon with their celestial themes hadn’t been done before in the franchise, making them unique and interesting to watch and play with. That plus their personalities and dynamic, and you’ve got a formula for a character to easily become a fan favorite.
Amazing video!
I've always felt that a big reason for sun/moon's popularity is their VA Kellen Goff, and that, oddly enough similarly to funtime freddy, they would not be as popular if they had gotten a different voice in the end.
Yeah, that's true too! I probably should've mentioned that. XD
Heywood, Kellen Goff, Heather Masters and Marta Svetek are the best
@@bj_bj absolutely
Honestly, I think most of the voice actors that fnaf has had have all done amazing jobs
@@Kersplunkle yeah i named the most important 4 for the fnaf all of them is amazing tho
the character design, the color scheme, the execution, its all so fun and new and I think the community really needed it. from a character design standpoint they are stunning. I love the sharp angles against the large bouncy pants.
met someone with a puppet tattoo on one hand and djmm on the other, which inspired me to get the daycare attendant and the puppet tattooed soon.
I also have adhd so I mean relate to the mfers
@@sludgeskin How?
You should get that profile pic as the tat. Its a winner.
We *need* more of them, Steel Wool better give us more of them, we gotta have more
Edit: hopefully we can get more of Sun/Moon/Eclipse, especially Eclipse because he seems sweet
Yes me and my fellow sun and moon enjoyer friends were very disappointed to find out eclipse gets only a minute of time in ruin
@@L0rdOfThePies fr they had less time in Ruin than they did in Security Breach, wish they did more in Ruin (at least we got Eclipse out of this)
Good news apparently there a leak that moon will have a section in help wanted two!
@@starburst9630 well, I can now die happy tomorrow
@@starburst9630 OH HELL YEEESSSSS-
As someone who's childhood had been taken from me, you were right on the dot about the longing for finding that inner lost child and healing it. I've always found fictional clowns or jesters to be comforting and something that I can look up to in times of sadness, and these two really did it for me.
Moon is the definition that "in the night the anymatrons get a lil quirki" cz he does move funky and is silly and "agresive"
more and more I see people talking about the Sun and Moon show! I'm really happy they're starting to be recognized by other fnaf channels! their channel is very good, and the way they characterize Sun and Moon is very interesting too!
Yeah, but on the topic of if fannon them came form SAMS I don't think so, to me they feel a bit different, but that might because fannon Sun is more happy, and SAMS Sun is way more nerves and tired from everything they went through.
I think your spitballing was spot on with why I love Sun and Moon. As a protective oldest sibling who is trying to heal the inner child in me and has the "I can help them" attachment to several characters (you know it's crazy when I feel that way toward Fecto Elfilis of all people), I tend to get attached to characters that are in need of protection and that can protect me. I'm also a huge fan of silly jesters and cool animations, so these two were just the complete deal, with a musical side to them as well. I love Sun, Moon, and Eclipse, and while I doubt they'll be returning, I hope to see them again.
They actually spired me to draw them in my own art style, but give them a whole circus theme day care, attending work force out of it, and I’ve been slowly surely making comics about their little family and also being inspired by this kind idea from the sun and moon show
The Power of the Sun... In the Palm of My Hand.
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I understood that reference.
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i asked my friends why they thought sun was so popular and they said that "he's probably autistic" and yeah, that kinda checks out
Not only do I agree with everything you said, but if I maybe allowed to add to it, I believe that the Daycare Attendant's briefness could have also contributed to their popularity. Compared to the other animatronics whom we spend the whole game with, Sun only appears in the Daycare section. And Moon only comes out to hassle us during the hourly shifts. So in comparison, their appearances are pretty brief. And yet, it's because of how much they did with those characters in those brief appearances that their characters stand out. And thus arguably, makes them more memorable. They stand out, and thus, are unique.
On a slightly unrelated note, I totally agree with your assessment in your In Defense of Gregory video that if the little guy had given Sunny-Bunny an "I'm Sorry" donut or an apology, he probably would have switched sides. Kinda makes me wish there was an option to indulge in Sun's desire for kiddy games at the Daycare. That would have been so cute. 😊
I mean, I can explain why I like the two; I love the whole Jekyll/Hyde concept, we don’t know if there are two personalities or two AI’s or if it’s a fragmented AI that has developed into two different personalities (according to the notes in-game, they treat Moon like a ‘glitch’, but then they brand candy and build merch around him, so that’s a pretty weird thing to do for a glitch in Sun’s system that’s too expensive to fix) and it adds so much mystery and lore to the character(s).
Plus I had a traumatic childhood. I had really really bad babysitters all my life. Sun, even though overbearing, seems like he wants to be around kids and actually likes them, likes his job, enjoys what he does. Maybe he scares other kids, but I would have loved to been around someone (something) like that as a kid.
I hate that you just succeeded in making me cry real genuine tears when you were talking about Eclipse being a love letter to the fanbase- not many TH-camr’s can make me cry, good job👏 /pos
The section about reclaiming a lost childhood surprised me with how much it spoke to me. I’ve never thought of FNAF as a vehicle for that liminal experience. And I never thought of it as reclaiming a lost childhood. There’s something really sad but really beautiful about that. I’ve always felt that, but I never had a good, long-form way to describe healing an inner child and fulfilling a missing childhood need.
I’ve openly joked about how my “daddy issues” made me latch onto Glamrock Freddy. My favorite cursed description of him is that there are only two ways to think of Glamrock Freddy: Dad or Daddy. My aforementioned issues turn that ‘or’ into an ‘and.’
But in all seriousness, having some way to experience a gentle father figure from whom I have nothing to fear, even in this bizarre and ridiculous context, is invaluable. I am quite thankful for a fun series like FNAF and how much it’s given me and how much it’s evidently given so many others.
I liked Sun and Moon when SB came out. But, the intense love he got in the fandom was surprising... a good surprise. But, for whatever reason, the line "I'm trapped in a nap".. that one got me. The movements that went along with it. It all clicked for me. Sun/Moon/Eclipse, I love them so much!
What made me love them so much was not only did it bring back the circus vibes I liked from sister location but also because of the gimmick of an animatronic having two modes and the function being dependent on its surroundings if it’s light up or not. Also seeing just how genuinely afraid the sun gets when the lights go out and how he fights with himself but it also just shows that he knows how dangerous the moon can be or how he k owns something is wrong with him and is trying to keep him locked away. Also loved the idea of eclipse ever since I saw the BB world mini game and the idea of it being a mix of the two balancing them out and making a neutral party. And while he is under utilized in ruin I am glad that he does exist and is a canon feature they have
I feel like the most beloved characters are tied to the more complete parts of security breach. The daycare segment is one of the more polished segments of the game. I think the same is true with dj music man. The parts are fun and interesting and the characters are well established
I’ve identified a lot with Sun and Moon and their fanon and your interpretation of their appeal (reclaiming childhood, comfort in being protected and cared for, encouraged to enjoy simple childish things) hits pretty close to my own reasons for fixating on them so much
The evident anxiety and OCD-like symptoms (notably the paranoia about something bad inside of you somehow taking over and doing things you don’t want) is a major aspect for me that I find comfort in. Also a point that wasn’t mentioned is the feeling of isolation/sheltered-ness of the daycare as well as the symbolic isolation of the attendant due to their overall distinctiveness from the other animatronics. The shared feeling of being othered and alone and socially isolated is another thing I feel like can be an appeal of them as well
Nice video :)
i would have loved this game so much more if the daycare was open after the section which it appears in. as in, if it was a safe-haven type of area, where sun would talk with Gregory, that'd be the best part of it. it'd also allow people to go back for the upgrade that they probably missed.
What I saw a lot of was romanticization of Sun and Moon's role as caregivers. On top of everything else, they're the first nimatronics we see who's job is specifically caring for children, and not just "kids" but specifically those who would nap in the middle of the day. The other characters are meant to entertain an older audience, and are only seen entertaining or acting out their themes about racing, golfing, eating,singing, etc.
A large part of Sun and Moon's characters are tending to kids, and a lot of creators leaned into them being.. well, dad material. That, plus their more delicate design with the frills and ribbons is the kind of thing that I've a lot of fandoms latching onto in general.
You show a male or masc character being good with kids and/or being pretty and you've got yourself an army in 2 seconds.
Moon is the only animatronic who’s Night Paralysis Demon energy is match for Gregory’s Arson Gremlin energy.
I can't get over the fans complaining about other fans "humanizing" characters of a generation that are quite literally explained to your face have genuine feelings (the Glamrocks, DCA, DJMM) as if the previous 8 iterations of animatronics weren't also recieving the anthropomorphized lovable treatment. That's kind of hilarious that as soon as the canon said "yeah you can do that" it was suddenly not ok anymore lol.
Also speaking purely for myself, Sun immediately endeared himself to me because through him (and Glam Freddy, another one of my favorites) we finally get a glimpse of how these animatronics are SUPPOSED to be, when they aren't being designed to hunt and kill or posessed (mostly...) Just the slightest glimpse into a machine who is programmed to protect kids instead of hurt them, and is fully aware of the threat he poses to them, it's something so precious in a fandom that's been built on untold numbers of innocent children's deaths at the hands of the machines made for them. I wouldn't want it for every game, but it's such a breath of fresh air that it makes the following implications of future child murders and machines gone rogue even more tragic.
Also Eclipse is fanservice done right. Re-introduce a character that isn't exactly relevant to the lore (yet...) just because we want to see him, let us feel the tragedy of "what happened to my funny scrunkly??", sympathize the evil persona ever so slightly to give us hope, introduce a really cool fusion of the two to stoke the theorizing and fan interpretation, make him absolutely darling so we get a split second of cathartic peacefulness, and leave his whereabouts and ultimate fate open-ended to let the fans write their own endings OR leave open the possibility of his future return.
Brilliantly done, even though the Daycare section was a bit underutilized in Ruin imo, the absolute joy I felt at Eclipse was worth it.
I really like the sun and moon’s designs. As someone who has always enjoyed the more creepy look of the animatronics, I think they do a great job portraying that unsettling look that I loved from the original games.
Admittedly I didn’t like them my first play through of the game, but seeing the fan art and different fics made me love them!!
Exactly. A lot of it was falling for the fan's interpretations and passions for the franchise/characters honestly.
"Not the typical cuteness,with wicked girls and pupiless eyes"
its like you don't even remember Vincent
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Even Vincent had big anime eyes. XD
Lol true!
For me, I love Sun and Moon because I'm a Daycare Attendant, I work in a daycare, and seeing these two I felt represented in a fictional world, something I don't often feel. I don't have nostalgia for Chuck.E Cheese, don't have them in Australia or really anything like it, so seeing these two I can connect to them with what they do as a job. Plus having a pair of animatronics, one being generally nice and the other only being affected by a virus, is so nice in a universe full of murder, death and spirits. There's no sad backstory, no death, just them as they are. Only a program.
Sun and Moon are probably popular because of Kelen Goff's performance.
They look straight out of Sister Location. I think that they expand on the faceplates that the Funtimes were known for, but having spinning mechanisms that changes them into their respective counterpart.
Also they are truly "original characters" and we haven't seen that since Sister Location. Most games have the animatronics we are familiar with, Sun and Moon are new.
I never knew why I loved the daycare attendants so much, but with this analysis on them makes sense to me and has helped me know why I do love and care for them so much
My read of it was always that the daycare attendant wasn't originally supposed to have two personalities just a person who dresses according to the time of day. Just either through glitching out, hacking that the two personalities were "born".
I mean that's essentially what I got from the books - Eclipse is the 'actor' and Sun and Moon are two characters he plays, and through whatever means he was essentially split into these two personae.
As someone who dealt with a lot of ✨childhood trauma✨ I definitely gravitated towards them for being daycare robots. Since I didn’t get the care I needed during childhood my brain seeks out things that can replace that, and since I grew up alongside FNaF, it became a comfort series to me. So comfort series + character meant to take care of little kids = inner child is happy.
Oh and also as someone with OSDD it’s fun to see other characters who have multiple people in one body, like us. And even though Sun and Moon at first seemed like they were going for the cliche Jekyll and Hyde shtick we’ve seen a hundred times (which gets annoying as it causes this widespread belief that plural people are “dangerous” or their headmates are “bad”), they didn’t really turn out that way, since all the animatronics were just acting in ways they weren’t supposed to. The closest these games got to that cliche was the books but… the books are dumb and I refuse to accept them. Ruin further showed that Moon wasn’t evil, which was nice.
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When checking the AO3 mermaid tag amongst FNAF'S category, And while only a couple Chica's got the look officially, nearly all of them are Sun&Moon focused. (One of the outliers had 'Baby' in description, but didn't really feel very FNAF)
yes the most popular fnaf book in ao3 is also with sun and moon
For me, personally, my reasons are:
- They're cute in concept
- I love characters that are multifaceted
- ASMR
- Kellen Goff did AMAZING with thier voices
- I love characters that have alternate sides and forms
- When I was a little girl, my favorite character, to this day, is QuackerJack from "Darkwing Duck" and he's probably why I'm interested in jester themed characters who put up a front of being silly when in reality they really need a good therapy session and a welfare check
- Celestial themes are a favorite of mine as well
- I'm faceblind and am not affected by the "uncanny valley"
- I'm autistic, and this is very yes for me
- Ha ha, funny robots' gears go brrrrrr
I like to think the hyperactive nature of sun is simply because he's more used to handling multiple children at once and it ideally let's him bounce between children and activities at a moment's notice.
Moon strikes me as something a kin to a goofy Boogie man intended to put children to bed with the same energy as sun but in a chiller way like the wind down from a fun filled day and maybe his chasing and tickling is a means of helping those still too active to settle down.
I dunno just some trains of thought, Eclipse currently comes off as the default switching between the pair as/if needed.
I swear, the daycare attendant got me blushing, giggling ,kicking my feet and twirling my hair like a highschool girl
They're unique attractive interesting characters.
Out of repetitive patrons of animatronics designs and redigns.
Also, they share a body with two minds and personalities.
The balance of good/evil, day/night and light/darkness
I think that the reason being caught by Moon is game over is because Gregory faints from the startle, but doesn’t really get unalived, rather accidentally startled. Then, moon puts them to sleep somewhere.
Why? Kellen Goff, that's why! He's awesome!!
Edit: I met him in person at an expo this year, so I would know ^v^
i honestly think the sun and moon imagery is in itself enough for these characters to stand out. it really heightens the jekyll hyde dynamic in such an immediate, instinctive way. if you described their mannerisms and behaviors without saying which was which, i'm sure most people would be able to guess them correctly. it is so easy to digest and appreciate the theming, which imo is a big reason they're so widely liked
Honestly the entire Sun and Moon fascination reminds me a lot of the Sans obsession from back in the 2015-2016 Undertale era. The entire seperate fandoms/Au's and all.
The comments about people attaching to them bc they want to experience a feeling of safety and nostalgia really hits close to home. I don’t remember most of my childhood, I can only remember the bad. Maybe that’s why I attached to them, they can be seen as someone to keep me safe.
I am a massive fan of Sun and Moon, I'm obsessed with these two. Like, wrote a 470K word fanfic about these scrunklies level obsessed. No joke. I love these boys.
I could go on all day about why I love these two, but I think your video hit the nail on the head on most of it. I'll add this as well- Sun and Moon have really unique gameplay. Sun is one of the few animatronics in the entire series that doesn't harm you, doesn't indirectly inflict danger on you, and doesn't want to hurt you in any way. Even your companion character Freddy is more dangerous than that, so right off the bat Sun is very unique. The build up to Moon is also phenomenal, Sun and Moon have some of the best introduction and area/gameplay theming in the entire game. That's not enough to explain their overall popularity by itself, but it is definitely something I think catches people's attention and draws them in.
I agree that the Sun and Moon Show didn't cause their popularity. I was in the fandom before that show was around, and I read fanfics about the two voraciously. (PS if anyone here has a fanfic I WILL read it, feed me your fanfic.) I can always tell when a fic is more Sun and Moon Show inspired than it is game or fandom inspired, the characterizations and general interests of the fic tend to be very different. There are more Sun and Moon Show fics now than there used to be since the SB fandom is slowing down a little, but the vast majority out there by far is still regular game inspired fics. Sun and Moon Show got popular because people were obsessed with these jesters, not the other way around.
(I'm serious about eating your fanfic tho, if aaanybody reading this has a Sun and Moon fanfic PLEASE feed it to me I am hungrier than Chica. I read every last one I can get my little raccoon hands on. I have the brainrot and my mental mold spores dance to the daycare theme.)
She ATE this analysis fr tho. The feelings that the daycare attendants evoke in the fandom ARE SO TRUE! Even tho we don't necessarily want to re explore a missing part of our childhoods, the feeling of safety and happiness we experience with Sun & Moon is so comforting.💖
Pretty spot on!
I love Sun because I was neglected as a child which led to a lot of situations that wouldve been avoided if i was properly watched, and his whole purpose is to protect and watch those who are vulnerable.
Because of that though, I also am not as big of a fan of Moon. But my love for horror just adores the spooky animalistic nature of him from a character standpoint
I mean, I think it’s shown that’s Sun at least is still separately sentient in Eclipse, but yes more at peace, and I’d like to say Moon is too… I mean they don’t say they aren’t
In all the posters and plushies, moon has very light blue eyes, meaning probably the only reason he is so aggresive in the games, is because of the virus. Juuuust like all the others! The only reason they're aggressive towards children all of a sudden (including not only Gregory, but Cassie too until she debugs Roxxie) is because of the messed up code! Meaning, I think that moon is supposed to be quiet and stern, just like any good parent should be when putting their kids to sleep! I even think his aggresive sounding voice lines, are supposed to be softer toned without the virus! Especially "it's past your bedtime" with his creepy sounding laugh, because imagine if he had a softer less gruff voice, with a quiet chuckle, wouldn't that seem much nicer and friendlier towards kids?
Because they’re new. A truly new character from FNaF that isn’t William/Michael/Elizabeth/Charlie/Cassidy/Henry/Some other mishap
But so were some of the other characters and they weren't as popular. There's a lot of 'new' concepts that don't get this amount of traction, characters included.
For me at least, Sun and Moon feel like a balm on my childhood trauma and my less than stellar mental health. Plus their themes as the sun and moon melds with one of my hyperfixations of celestial themes and yellows and blues. It almost feels like (and I know they aren't) are perfectly tailored for me. Their skrunkly appearances and goofy demeanors are bonuses too.
Before them, I had little more than a cursory interest in ANYTHING FNAF related. I've never even been all too interested in robotic characters before, but something about Sun and Moon (and now Eclipse too) just grabbed me and refused to let go.
And I can't say that I want it to.
I majorly agree with this video! As a kid in the 90’s who suffered from extreme irritable bowel syndrome (back when the drs didn’t know it even was a thing) I didn’t get to experience things like the other kids did, I was in excruciating stomach pain almost all the time, mix that with my developmental delay and the constant bullying I received from both students and teachers, you can fully see y my childhood wasn’t “normal” as the other kids childhoods were. I can now fully see y I adore sunny and moony they remind me of the childhood that I never got to experience but only this time with the kind loving understanding caregiver who constantly was arround and would defend me whenever it was needed, I must thank u for makeing this video, I’m sending this vid to my boyfriend who still can’t understand y I adore sunny and moony, Maby after he watches this he will understand my love for these two❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love Sun & Moon for a lot of reasons but the main reason has to be the voice acting by Kellen Goff. He’s such a W Fr
I think the fact that they are SO different than any of the other "main" animatronics so far is a big reason
sure, the puppet and paper pals also exist but... theres not much in terms of personality there
Also being voiced by kelen goff 10/10
And i may be biased by being an artist, but their poses are SO fun, be it to draw or just the fluidity of their animations (which truly shows how talented the animators were behind them)
I loved the design and moon gave us the one of the scariest moments in the base game of security breach. It still stands they had the best withered design. I just never understood how exactly their functioning worked like why is it that moon is only trying to kill you instead of both sun and moon cause ik it’s supposed to be a good vs evil night and day situation but mechanics for the character I don’t get it.
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Sun is about sunshine and rainbows, so it makes sense he wouldn't try to kill you. He's just doing his programming. Moon on the other hand..
@@spencerman07 the other animatronics aren’t programmed to kill but they do it during the base game so that should apply to sun as well where his programming is corrupted but apparently it’s not.
@@Ghostface1998 Sun's programming has no maliciousness or stuff to manipulate to kill Gregory, unlike Moon. Sun is just the caretaker, there's nothing for the virus to manipulate so that Sun can kill him.
@@Ghostface1998 The other animatronics only have one personality, Daycare Attendant has two(3 with Ruin).
The virus might have been transferred over to Moon.
I heard someone say the fanart and AUs were what ruined Fnaf, but as you are saying, is what kept it alive
True
Whoever said that sounds saltier than I. XD
To talk about faces, I feel that they get away with the creepy forced smiles because it feels disjointed. Their faces don't feel like faces but mask they put on. With their personality, shows that there is more to them than what you see on the surface. While a lot of the other character are what you see is what you get, they seem deeper than the others. It really adds to the intrigue of them as actual character.
Sun and Moon are the best! Honestly i think id be 1,000,000% happier if they existed irl. They bring me so much comfort
I've never even played a FNAF game, but I love Sun and Moon as characters because of their contrast and their celestial themes. Honestly been thinking of playing Security Breach largely for them (and because you aren't in one room the whole time).
As a person who has tried to draw these clowns (affectionate), simplifying the face is honestly more of a sort hand. For more expressiveness, yes, but also because their face is just very hard to draw. They are very creepy cute, but so SO hard to draw XD
I love them because they’re the only ones that creep me out! and they’re only in that one part so we’re kind of deprived of their existence throughout the rest of the game wanting more! (Same as dj music man) whereas the rest of the animatronics are overused and almost impossibly common…
"Moon is a living criptid shaped like a clown"
Best description of him ive ever heard XD
People come and go, but fictional characters live in your head, computer, on your desk, as long as you do.
Oh finally I can edit this
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edit: wow I never expected him to actually get pinned.. good job I guess
@@IamwormI know right?
@@jackofhearts9123 Seriously, I hate people who beg for pins.
@@IamwormBut it worked. What a madlad.
@@Iamworm I’m not begging I was just asking I’m gonna change it now
It helps that people feel sorry for them because they dont serve a greater purpose in Security Breach - from their perspective the building just collapses or catches fire and they are caught in it as bystanders.
Gregory tears the place apart and they were just waiting for the day care to reopen next week.
Even in Ruin, Eclipse is under the assumption the pizzaplex is still a functioning attraction.
What you said actually made so much sense. I can see why I love these characters so much now, because recently I’ve been wondering what’s so appealing about them. My childhood wasn’t the best, and my mom wasn’t the best either, and I’ve always caught myself longing to go to the daycare in the game. So, this makes perfect sense!
felt so called out when you mentioned the whole "wanting to feel protected" part :') thats why theyre major comfort character(s?) to me
Yes this video explains it so well. The whole daycare Sun and Moon sort of felt like a sensory overlead but like in a happy way lol. If I was in a place like the day care irl when l was little, I'd probably try to find a place quite to hide. Fun and goofy moments in video games like the daycare are nice its like watching chaos from a safe volume controlled distance.