Hey fun fact! A user on Twitter pointed out that the rug under Bonnie isn't just a standard rug, its a 80's arcade flooring patterned carpet, and no rea of the Pizzaplex has that carpet except for the entrance to Gator Golf. (Its hard to make out because it is drenched in oil and soot, but you can see the patter on the small patch of carpet beneath Bonnie)
I did some digging myself ( I actually bought SB again for PC and installed debug menu) I found something really neat. So Bonnie is on a carpet, right? But it's perfectly rectangular. Well, I was looking at the floor of the East Arcade. Not only does it have the same design as the one Bonnie is found on. It is also noticeable that this carpet is in rectangular cuts on the floor in one section. Which makes much more sense for an animatronic to take advantage of precut carpet. Considering Bonnie was in this area for about an hour. Which is plausible time to rip up a segment of carpet. Are we sure Monty is the one we should be concerned about? (Also, I checked Gator Golf for any rectangular cuts or sections like what I saw before. Nothing)
I suspect Freddy knows who did it and programming prevents him from confronting the culprit. Imagine what that would do to your psychology. It could turn you into a monster seeing all the advertisements of your friend paraded around like a gross zombie, or cause you to do something heroic, something impossible, like refusing an order to end a child Anda system reset that would allow it.
@@treena9930 I saw a post about this on Twitter, but the carpet Bonnie is laying on specifically matches the carpet pattern in Monty Golf, not the East Arcade....
Another thing I wanted to point out is that Bonnie was also close with Chica, as she also has a bowling ball in her room like Freddy does. So it almost seems like they knew that they have been around almost since the beginning (I say almost because Chica was added later alongside Foxy) but Roxanne and Monty don't have bowling balls in there rooms as they are the "new guys" and didn't have the relationship that the other two had with Bonnie. Nice little detail that not many people notice.
Monty often visits the catwalks and that was the place Bonnie used to hang around for. Roxy is more likely because her claws into the greed marks better than Monty's purple claws.
To some extent, I feel like the Glamrock Bonnie room could also be a reference to William being Springlocked. Locked away in a sealed room, 4 Floorbots (which have weird child laughter/screaming ambiance around them in AR) that once they are turned off/pass on, Bonnie passes on. Almost an allegory for William
I have to wonder if the remnant of lost souls kept Bonnie alive for so long. The constant horrific cries and screams of children echoing through the wet floor bots. Just bone chilling.
That seems unlikely to me considering how Golden Freddy works. We're not even sure if the suit exists anymore, but we do know its probably busted beyond repair. Yet it is still seriously haunted despite being broken. So if it was powered by remnant, the Glamrock Bonnie would be doing similar spooky stuff like appearing out of nowhere and being generally vengeful. And I doubt it would be pacified by turning off signs. Then again that would be a very cool design. Floating limbs, dangling lower half, glowing eyes, crooked jaw. I'd pay to see a Golden Freddy style Glamrock Bonnie. But I'm guessing too many rabbits already, considering we have Vanny, Burntrap, and the security system.
Who even knows how remnant works anymore? It’s essentially midichlorians or lending Goku your energy. It can be whatever the writers need it to be to get the plot moving.
I’m leaning more toward the theory that Bonnie getting damaged beyond repair was an accident, and Monty tried to hide it out of panic. I don’t see a reason why Monty would deliberately decommission Bonnie as bad as we see him. I think it’s possible Bonnie met Monty on the catwalk in Monty Golf to talk, then they got into an argument about something. Monty could’ve then tried to push him a little out of anger, but he accidentally used his claws to scratch his chest, which made Bonnie fall over the edge of the catwalk. Monty then goes down to try to help him, but he sees that Bonnie got damaged so severely that he isn’t going to get up. So he tries to hide Bonnie’s body so he doesn’t get blamed for it. That makes more sense to me. Because if he purposely decommissioned Bonnie, then why did he do it when Bonnie just randomly showed up in Monty Golf one day? I could see it if we got a report of Monty entering Bonnie Bowl, because then we’d know Monty specifically went to where Bonnie was, but unless Vanny was the cause of all this, Monty had no clue Bonnie would be in Monty Golf.
I honestly agree, especially because I was watching another theory vid on Bonnie, and they pointed out that Monty didn't even get his claws to play bass until Bonnie was already gone.(Edit: Specifically from the messages from security breach from the duffle bags)
I mean, he could've had a previous reason to want to get rid of Bonnie, and when Bonnie showed up to Monty Golf for whatever reason, he saw an opportunity and took it.
@@yustinj.3910 That’s fair, but this doesn’t seem like it was planned. I doubt Monty thought of pushing him off the catwalk and then hiding Bonnie in his room when he saw Bonnie come into Monty Golf. The fact that Bonnie was presumably pushed off the catwalk in the first place tells that he willingly went up there with Monty before he fell, unless Vanny took control of him or something. It’s hard to tell as we don’t have a lot of information.
@@theitalianmexican1035 He wouldnt even have of needed to scratch him if he was gonna push him out of the catwalks anyways For someone who was at the very least self aware enought to not let him ob monty golf cause he knew that they would blame it on him and tried to make it look like an accident he probably would too not try to get such a big clue on Bonnie's body
I was also thinking that the claw marks could've been him trying to catch Bonnie instead, reaching out and trying to grab him but just missing and ripping a hole in his chest
For people thinking Vanny made Monty destroy Bonnie: with "Bonnie's parts were recycled for Burntrap" theory being disproven, Vanny had no possible motivation to decommission Bonnie. If he was getting in her way, she would just hack Bonnie and have a bodyguard in the area where she resides.
Vanny's motivation could have been that Bonnie had discovered that she was murdering children (to take their remnant for burntrap). This is mostly speculative, but the association of Bonnie with the wet floor signs and the sounds of screaming children is a notable piece of evidence which could point to it.
I always saw it as Afton pitching a fit to have his fursona continue being a rabbit- so that's why Bonnie was targeted. But it would be advantageous to Vanny if Bonnie was there. To explain away any rabbit ear sightings on camera. (It's confirmed in the tapes the thing that blurs her out on cams doesn't completely obscure the ears.) So now, I think Monty got territorial, killed him on accident, hid him- after Vanessa just happened to steal the extra Bonnie "casings" for Peepaw. And instead of making more, /that/ was the last straw for Fazbear Entertainment- so they got lazy and made Monty the bassist. Sorry this turned into an essay.
@@pilloeglade5463well monty didn't have claws at the time of Bonnie's death, and we can see huge gashed down the chest of bonnie, monty also started raging out after bonnie was gone, I think he didn't kill him
I’m a little sad that they didn’t use his Bowling design. I actually had a head cannon that when Bonnie was around, the Pizzaplex was going to be 50s themed, but around Monty’s addition they went with the 80s look. Edit: I do like his headband it’s stylish
I liked to think maybe he was just the only member of the band that was just wearing casual clothes, kinda fits the bassist theme lol. What he was wearing wasn’t really 50s themed either. If they were a 50s band the male characters would have been in suits with ties while the females would have had dresses of some kind.
Looking back I think the bowling design might of been meant to be classic bonnie the whole time. Faz ent probably changed the theme after he was scrapped. Its shown they still use the classics with the foxy statue in the kids cove sub lobby.
i once criticized bonnie for not looking bowling themed enough, and then you realize the other glamrocks don't look like their sport either. freddy doesn't look like a futuristic space warrior, chica doesn't *really* look like an exercise trainer, roxy doesn't look like a racer, and monty doesn't look like a golfer either.
I think Monty and Bonnie had a relationship similar to Shifu and Tai Lung. Bonnie took the croc on as an apprentice, a son even, and, felt that Monty would be too violent, and a bad influence on the kids. Seeing as Monty is impulsive, about as narcasistic as Roxy, but with the self confidence to be a really bad bully. And so, Bonnie, tried teaching Monty to be the best he could be, but, when it came for Bonnie to retire, probably from losing profits for the Pizzaplex, he refused to give Monty the spotlight. And, you can fill the rest in from there.
I dont think Monty meant to kill Bonnie, since a common sign of a kill done through an emotional moment, is keeping the dead person's body on or wrapped in a blanket. It can be a sign of remorse, trying to compensate for what they've done. The most likely scenario was Monty meeting Bonnie to talk about replacing Freddy in the band, angering Bonnie, causing an argument that led to Bonnie being struck off the catwalks. Monty most likely wrapped Bonnie in a nearby fire blanket as he took him back to Bonnie Bowl, to not have to see his idol destroyed. Monty later on shattered the bowling ball, likely after trying to give Bonnie something he loved, but he destroyed it in a remorseful rage, soon leaving to not have to see him. It makes more sense with Monty's rage towards Freddy, shown in the concert stage of his game where Freddy is thrown in the dumpster and how Monty looked up to Bonnie, shown by Freddy being in the dark when Monty sees Bonnie and the others playing in the cutouts. Monty being an emotionally driven robot, blames Freddy for what happened to Bonnie and seeks to replace him in a delusional idea of revenge. I get Monty's voice actor claimed Monty has a yandere relationship with Freddy, but he's not the writers behind the story, plus he had to read his lines in a warehouse, meaning he wasn't respected.
it most definitely could have been a yandere relationship at first. i feel like with Freddy being a prototype vanny talked a lot about Freddy being replaced due to his programming being faulty (which is why he wasn't effected by the mimic virus). As you know she already mentioned this before in SB saying monty would replace him.. this may have caused the whole talk about monty coming to Bonnie about Freddy being replaced and then them fighting on the catwalks. after the fight monty became corrupted and now blames Freddy for being the initial cause of his problems. tldr: vanny hyped monty up with replacing freddy and monty goes back to tell bonnie out of excitement for getting closer to one of his idols. this causes a fight to break out on the catwalks and bonnie gets decommissioned, the end
@@amajeee Exactly and it makes the most sense with the environmental storytelling. Plus Monty is programmed to follow his story shown in Monty Gulf, so without Bonnie being there to be a goal for Monty to be like, it leaves Monty without a motivation, outside being the best music player.
A part of me is disappointed that we might never get full story for Bonnie (even with a potential second DLC, his arc seems over as the player is allowed to let him move on), but you’re right, the story told with these clues is pretty beautiful, so I’m happy with what Ruin gave us anyway even though we won’t get see him in action. What’s makes this more tragic is that Freddy himself will never know where Bonnie went and is just going to be permanently left wondering. I wonder, if there’s more FNAF games after this, if they’ll bring back Bonnie(+Foxy) or carry on the series with these new four.
I mean the main four always stand a big (and only) example is sister location since we got new animatronics such as baby and balora but they never replaced the ogs
I think is going to be opposite, first of all, this is five night at Freddy's and so far we've only spent two nights (Cassie and Gregory) plus we haven't seen how was the Pizzaplex in the beginning, we haven't seen the meeting of the staff (which i bet that was a gruesome one) and we still don't know where's Foxy (except for its eyes since Roxxane had them)
Freddy and Bonnie having the strongest bond also makes sense with Fred bear and Spring Bonnie being the first mascots made in universe Editing this now to say that they're gay and homophobes can die mad
One could argue the three costumes in the Mimic's room came before them, but those don't count, since they're not animatronics, while FredBear and SpringBonnie are springlock suits, so half the thing
What’s even sadder is the children’s cries you hear around those little bots. Paralyzed, and unable to do anything while watching everyone you care about around you trying to go on with life or going on without a care, it would make anyone cry.
Cassie’s father might have been the one to first discover what truly happened to Glambonnie, and that incident might have driven him to quit his technician job at the Pizzaplex. Most items drive home that Bonnie was the favorite character of Cassie’s father. It would be a pretty cool sendoff for the daughter of Glam Bonnie’s biggest fan to finally set his soul to rest.
I would say there is some merit to Monty accidentally pushing bonnie, Maybe the reason why hes so quick to rage now is because of him feeling guilty about getting mad at bonnie and killing him, that's why he put bonnie back in his green room and staged it, he didn't want to get caught, but also remember that the sewers exist, Monty probably could have just hid him, but Monty wanted him to be found because he felt bad. or he could have accidentally slashed him pushing him off, but he didint fully break, so at bonnie bowl he slams him into the wall that smashes his head with a bowling ball (Note the dent in the wall infront of bonnie. idk but I do feel like that big dent in the wall is important.
except bonnie had to have been killed in bonnie bowl because his sensors still would have picked up him being moved to bonnie bowl anyway (he's still alive when you find him there until you deactivate the random bots around him.) it couldn't have been monty willingly (because of more evidence from the logs and more) so either: he was framed, he did it under the control of something else, or he's just being used as a red herring
@@zeemmy33 I dont think the animatronics have sensors because vannesa is looking for Freddy in security breach and only finds him when moon captures him, so theres probably no sensors.
@@FunWare.mp4 im not sure if all of them have them (sort of like how only roxy has special eyes and only chica has a special voice box), but the log "missing" says," SECURITY REPORT - 12:24AM - Bonnie is seen leaving his green room in Rockstar Row heading East towards the atrium. 2:40AM - Bonnie enters the East Arcade. 4:12AM - Bonnie enters Monty Golf." bonnie's seen leaving his green room, but his actual location isn't seen when he enters the east arcade and enters monty golf, which shows there's some kind of sensor system in place for bonnie (even if there isn't, there's very clearly data on wherever he goes to some capacity.) evidence shows that it was most likely an inside job from fazent, vanny did it, or someone else and monty was framed
Yeah... Perhaps both Monty & Bonnie went over the Catwalk together.... It is mentioned in a few security notes, that Monty had been damaged before by the Giant Bucket (obviously foreshadowing that Gregory needs to do so later)... But it still leaves it open to Who Moved Bonnie's Body.l?
Just before you mentioned the catwalks it immediately hit me what you were about to bring up and it blew my mind. Say what you will about the storytelling in this series but Ruin had really incredible bits of environmental clues to fill us in on certain characters, from Fazbear Entertainment's story for Bonnie's disappearance, to the cutouts of Cassie with Roxy and Gregory seemingly comforting Cassie. It's crazy to think that Security Breach really has made the animatronics, well, more like actual characters this time around.
Personally. I'm on the mindset Monty isn't the culprit, but if he was. I really hope he lived. Someone mentioned that the ride could have been true. That Monty really did look up to Bonnie. Then one day got his shot as a band member when Bonnie wasn't able to perform. He loved it. He loved the attention, and didn't want to let it go. Monty wanted to stay in the band longer. So he lured Bonnie. We don't know if it was meant to be an attempt to outright get rid of Bonnie, or just damage him so he would need repairs. Either way Bonnie was severely damaged. Monty may actually have severe guilt for what he did. Explaining why we have messages where he avoids shows. The books showing him just being uncharacteristically silent after a rampage. Going into a depressive state. This probably would make Monty the best villain in all of FNAF. Cause he isn't just evil for the sake of evil, or some child who was corrupted by their abusive father. We have a character who is flawed. Who actually had good qualities, but made bad decisions. He didn't kill Bonnie for the lolz or to hurt Freddy. He didn't cackle madly while having a monologue. He was once a potentially good person who got corrupted and now has to live with his actions. That gets me to Bonnie's glasses. Aside from the neon sign and that kids drawing. Nothing has him wearing them. Not the plush or Pinata. Which has me thinking that Monty didn't steal these glasses from his body. Bonnie willingly gave them to him. Then that makes this all even more tragic. I'd like to think the electricity somehow rebooted Monty. Not to his "normal" glam-rock personality, but to a much earlier one. The humble one man jamboree. The Monty before he was corrupted by fame. Bonnie in a way gave Monty a new start in life when he directly (the rides story) or indirectly (What happened in the games universe) helped Monty join the band. Good intentions that led to a bad outcome. Now he's given Monty another chance. (Once again indirectly in universe....we don't have a cute cover up for this) Really I think it'd be more interesting for Monty to have a redemption arc in the next game. Not sure how it would work. I would think it shouldn't have Bonnie be fixed. Really show that despite how much Monty tries to make amends, tries to fix everything, tries to undo the damage he caused. He can never truly take away what he did. He's the reason Bonnie is gone. That's something he's going to have to live with. That to me is the best way they can use Monty if it doesn't turn out it wasn't a red herring. Than to just have him outright die from karma and basically bury the whole thing.
To be honest, Monty was and still is my favorite of the band. And I do wish that since they clearly seem to be trying to go with this route they would be more honest about how the entire event unfolded. Regardless there is some issues that leave me leaning on the edge of fully blaming Monty. I'll address them below. Monty's Claws: Yes Monty would have the exoskeleton and endoskeleton with claws before his upgrade. However, it is highly likely that these claws would be closer in shape and destructive force to Roxy's. (I am aware that Monty's legs are the things that are taken from him but his upgrade diagram clearly shows hands and not feet.) Roxy has been shown to have a level of aggression to her and has taken out plenty of staff bots around her raceway. Even though Roxy is smaller in build than Monty she does nor even in a jealous filled rage cause anywhere near the level of damage to a simple staff bot that is shown on Bonnie. Bonnie is a much larger target than a staff bot. If you take the fact that Monty is closer in size to Freddy then yes you would have a strong amount of force behind an attack, but we have no guide other than Roxy, on how an attack without the improved and notably destructive claws would look from Monty. Monty is the only one in SB capable of busting through metal, chain link fences, which are clearly meant to keep freddy and the gang out of certain areas. If Roxy cannot bust through a metal fence, let alone another other member without these powerful claws then how would Monty be able to deal that kind of raw slashing damage to Bonnie's chest? The shattering and fracturing could be explained by a fall certainly however the pattern of cracking on the exoskeleton is a common trait that is shared among all of the shattered gang. The same sweeping motions and fracture patterns can be found on every single broken glamrock regardless of how they were injured. As for the green paint, metal paint does not leave that kind of residue unless it is wet and Monty nas no recorded repairs to his exoskeleton or a new paint job during the time in which he would have killed Bonnie. It is hard to tell with the overlapping designs what caused the fracture patterns, and while the injuries are similar to Monty's fall from the catwalks. Timing and Body: If they are just covering it up with the ride cut outs.. and they know that Bonnie has went missing why would not check his green room? The place where Bonnie would default to going to when injured other than parts and service. If Bonnie enters gator golf at 4:12 AM that does place him in to after hours, (meaning there would be only night staff or closing staff around) however Ruin has shown that there is a lot of cameras in the pizza plex and all around bonnie's bowl. How does a giant, gator carry a body inside of a blanket, without being seen by that many cameras? By someone, or hell recorded by a staff bot encounter. Monty is not programmed smartly enough to on his own be able to accomplish this feat without being spotted or at the very least he could not have be slinking around without being noticed. One of the only ways Monty could have gotten Bonnie from his golf course to Bonnie Bowl without making a peep would be if Monty somehow knew a back way through the pizza plex. Like Vanny's hidden room which is "surprisingly" right next to Bonnie's Glamroom. Or if Monty was able to somehow be invisible to the cameras like Vanny has shown to be to the glamrock gang (minus Roxy's eyes). There is more I could comment here but I will leave it here for the most part.. I think that Steelwool has casted the blame on Monty in a cruddy "did he do, or did he not" sort of way. I am sad that they have killed my boy in such a way. I believe the fandom will mostly lean towards Monty being the one to blame, even if Steelwool has some gaps and points left out for the sake of "lore". If it doesn't end up being Monty and its like Vanny, and they killed him off (maybe) for no reason that would really suck.. but .. I do like your videos, and I enjoyed this one as well, I just needed to get these points off my chest. Keep up the great videos!
I feel it's basically confirmed Monty did it of his own violition, simply because its the Neon Bonnie sign that does him in finally. Fnaf loves it's karmic justice, and that detail would be pointless otherwise. I think it's possible Monty felt guilt after to some extent even if he was in denial of said guilt in all likelyhood, and was definitely consistently extra stressed over that fact, hence his rising anger issues and avoiding performing. But I think he DEFINITELY did it on purpose, at best in some fit of rage.
Also the fact that the fall DOESNT kill Monty himself is a further sign of his intents. I feel he had to of done a follow up attack to finish Bonnie off given he survives such a fall.
@@JammyJam5588 I think Bonnie and Monty got into an argument while on the catwalks, and Monty in a fit of rage shoved Bonnie. Either the hit caused the hole in Bonnie’s chest, or Monty tried to grab him to keep him from falling but ended up causing the damage. When Bonnie broke apart, Monty (maybe unaware that Bonnie was still alive) grabbed a carpet/sheet and hid Bonnie’s body either in fear of being found out, as a means to get rid of the evidence, or perhaps was regretful and didn’t want to hurt the other bandmates with the news of Bonnie’s decommission. So yes, at BEST Bonnie’s demise was done in a fit of emotional rage, and at WORST was a deliberate attack from Monty on Bonnie.
I find it inconsistent that some animatronics can get damaged so horribly and yet still pursue our POV characters like Monty. Monty is a quarter of his former self. he fell and as he was falling he was crushed and bisected his claws were taken and later on through neglect he was stripped of his outer panels and who knows what else happened to him. Meanwhile Bonnie got his chest slashed open (one that is usually empty for cakes and oversized pinatas.... and children) arm ripped (I think it is just one arm that is ripped) and his head casing cracked and that's it he ded. Really Bonnie? come on dude stop playing and walk it off.
There may be some kind of brain equivalent? Like he can’t get back up because some important processor was damaged, and maybe it got out okay with Monty (for the most part, see Ruin /hj)? Idk about robotics but I could understand that because they could’ve fallen differently and/or Monty could’ve specifically targeted it (being a robot himself, perhaps he knew about it. Tho freddy didn’t know about endos until Gregory showed him, so maybe Monty’s just lucky. or really mangled him bad, and Gregory couldn’t do the same to him being a kid and not a roboticist). and since monty is made to be in the catwalks, he could also have more protection for his endo in case he does fall (they wouldn’t expect the ball container to drop on him too but that extra protection could be what helped him out. we don’t know how close a call it could’ve been). Lots of explanations 🤔
@@SketchUTgoing off the theory of robot brain damage causing paralysis, I wonder if he fell from the catwalks as the result of a temper tantrum from Monty, wherein he swung without thinking. Monty could have found him knocked out on the floor and seen an opportunity, then took him back to Bonnie Bowl and finished him off with a bowling ball to the head while he was incapacitated. Gruesome but possible. It's also possible that in spite of Monty's general stupidity, he knew what parts kept the animatronic running and gutted Bonnie while he was unconscious in order to remove specific parts so he wouldn't get back up. Like you said, many possibilities.
@@nugget1631 oooo yeah that could totally happen imo! I personally like the idea of Monty just having insane luck, and grabbing at random stuff he manages to get the right thing, but it also could be knowledge they all have, even if barebones. Stupidity and intelligence can coexist in different realms, so he could just be great at knowing animatronic parts but like. nothing else hdkdhdksb
The "Relationship" that was between Freddy and Bonnie is notable since the animatronics are treated like assets and not so much like people (if Vanessa's interactions with Freddy are anything to go off of), so it would stand to reason that the animatronics would want to band together and see kinship in this way. This goes deeper for Freddy and Bonnie since they found a deeper kindship with one another. It may not have been "lovers" as some folks think (they kinda lack the parts to go THAT far), but they certainly shared the closest bond. This would tie into why Monty would actually go after Bonnie since all of Monty's asperations is to be the lead of the band and dethrone Freddy, but to do that, he'd need to also get rid of Bonnie since the two were so close, and it showed since with Bonnie gone, it only would take any little thing for Freddy to be replaced with Monty (again, according to Vanessa).
I thought the exact same thing... but I was not expecting you to say "yeah so it's kinda implied Freddy and Bonnie might have been a thing." Actually though it would explain Monty and Freddy's bad relationship. Freddy isn't over Bonnie and isn't readily accepting his replacement, and Monty isn't treated as warmly and openly by Freddy as he is by the others. ETA god guys stop fighting I don't even necessarily LIKE Glamrock Freddy x Glamrock Bonnie nor do I think it's solid irrefutable evidence I just kinda also was on the same thought train of "yeah that does kinda potentially suggest that" and then was taken by surprise when NRN NAA said the same
True! If Monty’s ride tells a narrative story, then Monty adding a headless Freddy statue is his way of telling what happened next. Given the spotlights, Freddy and Monty weren’t super close, but it was after Monty became a glamrock that Monty HATED Freddy.
Really excellent theory! A good way to bring all the in-game clues together. I did have a moment when the piñata Bonnie was brought up where my brain went “what if the Mimic saw some kids absolutely destroying a Bonnie piñata and the Mimic just went ham on the real Bonnie.” I don’t think there’s anything there because there’s plenty of evidence against the Mimic killing Bonnie, but it was at least funny for a second!
We know that the mimic was trapped in the basement at some point, but do we know that it was trapped _during the time when security breach takes place?_ If not, the mimic suddenly becomes a major suspect for Bonnie's murder, as they have an even more obvious motive than Monty. Other people have noticed that Bonnie's arms have been pulled off, which is something that the mimic is known to do (though this is admittedly very weak evidence).
What if Bonnie and Monty were just talking to each other on the catwalks, a nice safe place away from cameras, maybe where they could talk about Monty becoming the new bass player. When Bonnie slipped and started to fall off the catwalk, Monty reached out to try and save Bonnie, but forgot about his new claws. The claws ripped a hole in Bonnie’s chest as he fell from the catwalks. Monty, feeling guilty and scared, dragged Bonnie’s body to Bonny Bowl, a place that would be more fitting for Bonny, and he placed the wet floor signs around him. Monty then breaks a bowling ball on the wall as a “burial ritual”
The problem with the theory about Monty doing the damage is that the messages imply that Monty didn't receive those killer claws until Bonnie disappeared
Yeah but also Monty having an aggressive personality and temper could make him act out.he doesn’t need claws to do damage as he’s shown to be strong as hell,I doubt the claw modifiers made him stronger just made him more effective at wrecking things
@notdeadyet3680 yeah but it's also implied that he's violent tendencies started after he got the claw upgrades, destroying everything he came across. Which also explains why in his promotional art (the ones you see painted in the walls) he is shown with a more laid back personality, but just my opinion of course
Minor point but that final wet floor bot doesn't spawn unless you deactivate every other bot. So those really are the last four wet floor signs in the game
I feel compelled to wonder how much abuse these animatronics can take while still being able to move around. If we add some Remnant into G. Bonnie, is he able to come to life? Monty was still moving along fine and he was just running off of spite and idiocy.
on a VERY off-topic note, on 6:20, look at Vanessa's nail color. it's frickin purple >:D also, it would kinda make sense with Fronnie being a thing, especially the hinting and implications, and tbh, it's kinda cute yet so sad :(
To add to the Freddy+Bonnie relationship is that their earrings are on opposite ears Also there's a slight link to Fredbear+Spring Bonnie, with them being basically the 2 original animatronics
When Ruin came out and all the stuff about Bonnie was uncovered, my friend and I were talking about how interesting it was that every game- Afton and Henri's hatred for each other seems to grow (for good reason mind you) while Bonnie and Freddy, their respective creations, grow closer through every game (no matter what form you can view their relationship as). It's super neat
I agree with your take about Bonnie. I wish Monty hadn’t been responsible, but it most very likely is his fault (even if it wasn’t on purpose). So I don’t feel as bad in wrecking Monty (especially in Ruin), but it’s a shame his character and Chica’s character never got redemption. I’m glad at least Roxy got her redemption.
Your theory about Freddy & Bonnie being in a relationship is actually very interesting. It would make more sense however I never thought of it like that I just thought they were very close friends
Edit: this comment is different, I wanted to rewrite it so it didn’t come off as “Your wrong, I’m right.” I’ll keep my points the same, I’m just going to reword some ramblings and try to check my tone. This theory is by far my favorite SB theory by now. Probably top 5 fnaf theories of all time. It’s well put together and has details I never noticed (falling Bonnie). Clearly a huge amount of research and care went into this. I mostly want to speculate and propose alternatives. One alternative could be Vanny, as we know Bonnie’s room has a vent that leads to Fazerblast and the third princess quest minigame. This room is obviously important to Vanny, but that minigame holds the key to stopping Glitchtrap. If that game was there the whole time, Vanny would want complete control over that room, giving her a motive to off Bonnie. It’s also possible Bonnie saw too much or was in the way of Vanny using that vent. Vanny has a disassemble button for not only the staff bots, but for the animatronics as well (scrapped concept but still). It is possible Vanny controlled Monty by ordering him to “disassemble Bonnie,” which would explain his injuries. However, this doesn’t explain the bowling ball or location. I also think there’s more to explore with where did Bonnie actually die, and how did Monty make a decent cover up. I never noticed the Blanket under bonnie, so keen eye there. The weird mark on the wall can be from a thrown bowling ball like you said. I like details I never noticed. My speculation is Vanny was involved, but is not the direct culprit. The Bonnie last seen message presumably sparked-albeit a bad-investigation. If Monty was seen dragging a large blanket to Bonnie bowl it would have been reported unless the person writing the report chose not to mention it. Vanny I think would mention Monty offing Bonnie, if only to get rid of Monty. The only reason she’s keep him around is if she’s got him under lock and key already. Vanny’s been taking kids well before Gregory, and made the disassemble button before Gregory was well. Vanny’s likely been tampering with the animatronics before the virus (maybe why eclipse is weird? Didn’t steel wool say Moon isn’t effected by the virus? That could be wrong info). Again, this theory is amazing. I haven’t seen a fnaf theory this well done since Matpats fnaf 2 theory. The composition of the video is very professional and I’m a sucker for a narrative story. Love the FreddyxBonnie bit (they’ve got matching earrings, that’s pretty much engagement rings lol). Very fun to watch, you did a wonderful job. I just like speculating.
But why would Vannesa/Vanny want to harm Bonnie? What does she gain from losing someone she can have control over? When she couldn't control Freddy she just beheaded him. Why have Monty do any of that? Why eliminate Bonnie? What does she gain? Additonal point: Vanessa didn't control the glamrocks until the night the game takes place, that's why Freddy bugged out, remember? She had the staffbots, who have no persoanlities to override and far less complex computers to hack. But not the glamrocks. Not until the night she tried to get Gregory. Additional point 2: The phrasing of the messages about night staff and Vanessa's hiring makes it sound recent, plus you find the destroyed staff meeting. But the notices about Bonnie seemed to have happened earlier. A lot of the "Vanessa did it" points stem from the assumption (not even theory, assumption) Vanessa was even an employee at the time. But there's no proof she was.
@@aromaladyellie my main point is that Bonnie was, in a way, a threat. I could be wrong on my theory, and I probably am. But for the sake of discussion I imagine Glitchtrap would want his one weakness on lock down. I dont know if she had the button during Bonnie’s death, but she’s likely been tampering with things for a while. Her costume can’t be seen by any of the animatronics and she’s been kidnapping kids for a while. Why haven’t the animatronics noticed? Maybe Bonnie noticed Vanny using the vent or being around a kid. Or maybe Vanny wanted his hideout room and the princess quest 3 minigame. I like your point about Vanny being recent. I genuinely haven’t thought of that. Going by the newspaper in the leave ending, Vanny’s been efficient at the Pizzaplex for a while. She’s got a costume that keeps the animatronics from seeing her (although she might have stolen it from a level 5 technician). She’s also got a disassemble button that was originally going to work on the glamrocks (scrapped concept). Given the sleepovers she’s been having with peepaw Afton I just think she’s been here a while. If Vanessa/Vanny didn’t write the Bonnie last seen message, then who did? The message is extremely wrong, claiming Bonnie was last seen in Monty golf. Vanessa’s also Been attending a LOT of Faz therapy, multiple sessions with multiple therapists. I don’t know how old those new hire messages are, but it Vanny would have to be Sonic to get that much done that quickly.
Not gonna lie, Ruin's reveal of Glam Bonnie and the backstory behind it were helpful for me. As a fanfiction writer with my own Five Nights series posted online and being popular enough that my phone was going nuts with notifications when I was posting it more quickly, I touched on Bonnie in the first part but it was posted when SB was just really released. Now I can update it in the fourth upcoming part (Ruin storyline but competent young adults) and I love it
The worst part is that we never see Cassie leave the Pizzaplex. In the main ending, she dies, and in the scooper ending, we never see her leave. Even if Cassie finding Bonnie is canon, she likely never got to tell Freddy.
After "Scooping" the Mimic, she could just backtrack to the Opening she came through. But it is heavily implied that this ending is just to Mirror the Burntrap/Blob Ending..... Being labeled "the Good Ending" to mirror the "Bad Ending" from the original game
I didn't think of the floor bots like that. Imagine that Bonnie was able to view what was going on through the Pizzaplex with those, sorta like someone on a security camera being able to view everything in a building but you have no ability to interact with what you see. He would have been forced to see Freddy greave, Roxy and Chica deal with their own problems, Gregory's stuff in SB, and then worst of all, seeing Monty thriving. It was probally like being in a Purgatory.
I love this theory so much, Bonnie and Freddy's relationship looks to me like an odd paralel to Henry and Afton, but as well the Monty history looks a bit like Steelwolf taking the lore torch from Scott
This could also explain why Monty skips out on performances at times to hang out on the catwalks. He probably feels some guilt or he at least knows how Bonnie was decommissioned
It's strange, we have so much evidence that we can piece together, but things just don't seem to add up. Like for example, people have been saying that Bonnie really *did* give up his position for Monty, and after that, his "greenroom" became that area behind the curtains in Bonnie bowl. But that doesn't make any sense, seeing as one of the notes you pick up states that he leaves his greenroom in *Rockstar Row,* then ends in Gator Golf. So it seems like he was still in the band before he was decommissioned. To me, the Gator Golf ride is the cover up, not actually Monty's backstory. One of the other notes states that they don't have anything to tell the kids asking about Bonnie. Either that, or Bonnie really *did* give up his position. Whether willingly, or forcefully. Because that would explain why his new room is in Bonnie bowl. But again, there's that note that says he left his room in Rockstar Row.
That has me thinking Bonnie has been known to be the most aggressive animatronic of the base 5. In every game he's in, he attacks first. He attacks the most. He ate a cat! It's like, we don't know what Glamrock Bonnie was like. Yes he may have been close to Freddy. That doesn't mean he' still wouldn't be dangerous. I have to wonder. Did Bonnie go to Monty Golf to attack Monty. Not Monty luring him in like we thought. Monty just retaliated. He was ambushed and so attacked back. Another is that they both were always fighting, and eventually. Monty won. Just like an ace-attorney case where you realize the victim might've deserved it. Monty and Bonnie might be a case of pure coincidence Monty being the aggressor. Bonnie being the dangerous one, and Monty actually being more misunderstood or both of them just being villainous characters, where Monty just had the upper hand.
I do believe that all the animatronics had their personalities messed with. Roxy being narcassitic but in Ruin she’s back to her original personality. I do think Monty wasn’t always aggressive. I wonder if this is the mimic’s doing on copying his code to other animatronics and things that make them more violent and aggressive. I think Game Theory needs to see this. That small detail at the crime scene you made is very interesting.
The fact that Monty’s sunglasses may have originally belong to Bonnie makes me lean more towards Monty purposefully destroyed Bonnie, and after the deed was done he took Bonnie’s sunglasses as a trophy. Also if Monty did admire Freddy before replacing Bonnie I don’t think he does now, I’d say the fame probably got to his head. The final level of the Monty arcade game where Monty is now the star of the show while Freddy is in a dumpster, and the headless Freddy statue at the end of the Monty ride makes me think that he was planning to get rid of Freddy, and just like with Bonnie take Freddy’s place as the new singer.
The story I have in my head is that Bonnie was sneaking over to Montys place to help him practice his guitar and maybe they were playing around with Montys ride and Bonnie fell. I believe Bonnie became shattered and broken after falling and then Monty tried to help him, he carried him back to Bonnies room, Bonnie realized that trying to help him would be useless because even if they could fix him, they would just fix his outer shell and replace his damaged endo with another one, the same threat Vanessa made to Freddy. So Bonnie told Monty to take the important parts from inside of him so that he can upgrade himself and become the new memeber of the Glamrocks. He then tore into Bonnie and took whatever his upgrade was inside of him and had it in his possession so that when the staff at the Pizzaplex was ready to turn the old Monty into a Glamrock they used the parts from Bonnie that were in Montys room. I believe that Montys debut was the first day we spend locked in the Pizzaplex, and thats why his room is unfinished and hes smashing and breaking stuff inside his room is because his idol who basically set him up and helped his dream become a reality.. was gone, he basically replaced him because he got him destroyed by asking him to take a ride with him, swinging around and accidently making Bonnie fall. Monty is grieving, I believe this is why Monty falling in Security Breach is so sad because it happened to Bonnie and I believe the Bonnie sign being turned on and killing Monty was symbolism, basically Bonnie telling Monty to just let it go and be at peace and the only way Monty could be at peace is if he was put to rest.
Also the fact that they chose wet floor sign bots specifically as the way to find Bonnie and as the things that surround him make it also more tragic as the wet floor signs have an image of a person slipping and falling, confirming that Bonnie indeed fell off of the Catwalks. Or maybe I am just over-overanalyzing this
I mean the image on the Caution bots is of an animatronic falling and this theory makes the most sense as to why the 'pat-pats' were even involved with the Bonnie storyline. Lovely sleuthing, keep up the great work!!
Great deductions all around, this just makes the tragedy look so perfectly executed. Whether or not this is intentional by Steel Wool or not, I hope some artists and writers use this to make incredible and interesting fan works.
I think you've got it. Your solution lines up with how steel wool was focussed on environmental storytelling with the tarp and the cable, so I'm absolutely sold on it. I'm inclined to say the initial fall was an accident though. If it was cold-blooded murder, the only motivation would have been to join the band in Bonnie's stead. But we know that Monty skips out on performances regularly, so he clearly isn't that attached to the position. I think Monty got angry and swung without thinking, and did his best to cover his tracks, like you said.
All that matters is we need another DLC where Cassie or Gregory tells Freddy where his special Bonnie bestie is all this time, his location in his bowling alley! I legit cried when I first saw him like this! I still do cry still, why are people so mean to Bunny's! 😭😢😎🤓
I don't think Bonnie's decommissioning was a planned attack because we can see how Monty's emotions make him do the majority of what he does. It would also explain why he goes up to the catwalks so often, maybe he feels guilt? What I'm saying is that Monty's too big of an idiot to plan out Bonnie's murder.
There’s no doubt your analysis is very interesting. Even though we don’t have all the answers, there are 2 things that are for sure. 1: Burntrap isn’t made from Bonnie’s remains. 2: Monty must have had some involvement regardless.
I like all the points for this aside from the bowling ball itself- The damage on Bonnie's head is circular. I kind of assumed Monty picked it up and finished Bonnie off after dragging him to where he ended up. Maybe he was still alive- That fall DIDN'T kill Monty after all, he was still able to move, hence why he'd gone the route of removing his limbs. Perhaps not having any other ideas, he grabbed a bowling ball and finished him off so hard the ball broke and shattered, along with Bonnie's head case and possibly memory cards etc. Maybe Monty was trying not to get caught?
I mean, maybe, but the damage on his head doesn't really match it. It matches the catwalk fall. If you look, he has that same would that Monty has on the eye. I agree that Monty could've taken apart Bonnie's limbs so he couldn't move, and that as of Ruin Bonnie is largely uploaded into the wet floor bots, explaining why he shuts down when they are.
i can't believe monty would do this waah i mean yeah, he is aggressive as hell, and to be honest, with how straightforward steel wool's fnaf games' lore has been (not a bad thing at all!!), he probably was the one to kill him. but your point about bonnie's damage looking practically identical to shattered monty's is very good, i never noticed that before
In one of the Bonnie messages from the Pizzaplex staff, it literally states that Bonnie is "out of commission" as in broken, if management KNEW Bonnie was shattered, that meant they found him, but didn't do anything to help him. They just...left him there, they just replaced him with Monty the moment they found out, it's mind-boggling how they did "emergency repairs" on Monty right after he first fell from the catwalks but didn't do any emergency repairs on Bonnie once they found him. But I guess that's Fazbear Entertainment for ya
I'm a sucker for the no evidence "Monty killed the wrong person" theory. Went to kill Freddy, maybe Bonnie got the message instead or went to confront Monty, there was a tussle and Bonnie got got. Panic's a hell of a thing. And now Monty's super mad cause he went and attacked the wrong person, his idol, and still has to deal with the one person he doesn't like. If it was a possession it would be even worse, as far as he knows he murdered no one and there no way there wouldn't be people whispering around him that he might have had something to do with, even if it were just a few staffers. Who wouldn't be mad at false accusations? Thou I will say if it's cause he wanted to be closer to Freddy its spicy in at least the concept that all this 'Monty hates Freddy' stuff we see everywhere is just company assigned drama...like the company is taking advantage of the possible robot murder side of him and setting up beef. like holy smokes if that was the case no wonder he breaks all there stuff! XD And when it comes to the bass claws I don't think Monty needed them persay. Have you seen the suckers on Roxy? Or just how embarrassingly powerful the animatronics in the series are? I wouldn't bat an eye at the idea of a normal endo being that strong to leave gouges.
One bit of evidence that somebody pointed out... Montgomery Gator did not get claws until after he replaced Bonnie! They were added so he could play the bass... So he couldn't have used them to kill Bonnie or leave those green paint flecks. Montgomery Gator is getting set up!
I like the theory that Vanny took over Monty first, made him attack Bonnie, and then took over chica. Then in ruin, Roxy is diactivated, reliving her of the virus.
MatPat needs to stop all that nonsense about books and mimics and Aftons and give us a theory about who was the top and who was the bottom between Freddy and Bonnie. That's the true important lore
I dont know about you, but me and my close friends are CLOSE. Some people mistake us for couples sometimes. We both love each other as siblings or sisters. We can be pretty weird sometimes too lol Freddy and Bonnie being super close friends is just more believable to me lol
Happy anniversary, FNaF 1, as of tomorrow. Bonnie's an interesting sort. My interpretation is that Monty was chosen to replace him in the main band before whatever happened to the animatronic himself; supported by numerous things. The changed marketing, particularly the sunglasses, which only show up on that neon sign of Bonnie twice - once in his back room in the bowling alley, and the other time in a flooded, under-construction ride not accessible to the public. That second sign is the one that kills Monty for good, halfway underwater as it was. Bonnie's hands have no claws, but he still _has_ hands, indicitive of them being replaced and given to Monty before Bonnie got taken apart, and the note in base SB does indeed mention that Monty had 'already had the proper adjustments made' for that purpose. Bonnie's greenroom itself, of course - an area for him to stay in even after being removed from the band, from Rockstar Row. The 'Monty shrine' behind Gator Golf's stage is likely a similar, but now disused, location. And I doubt Fazbear Entertainment would just throw out a fully functioning animatronic, even if he was losing some popularity. The glasses are likely a counterpart to the base guitar, by the way, since the color scheme match with both having that orangish-yellow shade accented with darker colors. Green paint transfer is a difficult thing to point out, because Monty's hands are purple for the most part. He wears gloves, painted on though they may be, and only a little bit of his hands are green. _Chica's_ hands are mostly green, but I of course hardly expect it to have been her somehow growing claws to do that and the color is much brighter anyways. I suspect, if it were Monty, he was not alone. Bonnie is surrounded by STAFF bot parts and some loose endo components, which came neither from Monty (assumedly) nor from Bonnie himself. It's possible he was jumped by a group, though whether that is with Monty's insistence or Vanny's control that said group did that, it is difficult to say. He could well have been drawn and quartered.. or, more than quartered. A lot more pieces than just four. Monty's damage, admittedly, doesn't make much sense to begin with. But, since it's consistent, it seems it still works fine, even though he honestly shouldn't have that big chunk in his chest missing. His facial damage was from slamming into the ground, and his joint separation is very prominently displayed during the cutscene, but that chest damage and, honestly, the damage to his arms as well, doesn't make that much sense. Bonnie's is more tame in limb damage - the joints have split and the casing is cracked and chipped, as though from a large impact. It makes sense that he would likely have done so. The cutout is pretty good proof. I never did think about that - Bonnie's upgrade being superjump legs is fitting for a bunny. That would indeed explain why Monty can lunge like that, and his boss fight itself, where he constantly lunges and jumps around. Much better than his Ruin encounter on those same catwalks, where he usually falls off of them. The 'blanket' is actually not a blanket. It is a large carpet square, the sort that honestly probably takes industrial bulk orders to get produced at all. And its pattern matches that of Gator Golf. It's very telling. 13:36 Monty doesn't think a lot at all, indeed. He gets caught on the fence after lunging at Cassie from the pipe in the intro, he struggles and fails against doors and gates during many sections, and that fall he has right before dying is actually him falling from the incomplete log flume - going out of bounds, his animation starts on the end of its slide, out of sight, but he clearly comes from that exact spot before slamming into a bunch of scaffolding and throwing himself back into water again, somehow not dying immediately to that alone. What happens to Bonnie is possibly orchestrated by another. Someone moves that final bot into place, if you've gotten all the others. Whether that was Bonnie, seeking rest at last, or another entity trying to take him down, is unknown. Bots that scream, when viewed through the mask, likely due to what they, too, have been forced to witness whenever Vanny creates a wet floor of her own.
9:56 unpopular theory: monty only became aggressive AFTER bonnie got shattered, similar to how Freddy grieves bonnie’s decommissioning, monty possibly destroys things and even becomes aggressive towards staff to cope, he had a one sided friendship to Bonnie, bonnie focusing on the main band instead of him… so he became aggressive once he found out bonnie was decommissioned. And he may have actually been an ally, but Vanny might have pushed monty to his breaking point (pun intended). Vanny may have forced monty to do it, and monty only becomes Angry after Bonnies death
I always thought it was an accident that Monty tried to cover up, maybe they were getting into an argument about something and Monty took it too far. Maybe he dragged Bonnie to his bowling alley and Bonnie started waking up, panicked, scratches on his chest, Monty freaks out and smashes his head with a bowling ball, finishing the job. It would make sense if that's why he started being aggressive out of trauma of hurting a friend, although maybe a friend that attacked or got aggressive first.
First of all, kudos to Steel Wool (and possibly Scott himself) for implying Freddy and Bonnie were in a same-gender relationship, without making it a focus point just to score points with “certain” parties that will never pay attention to this franchise. Even though I find it weird for the animatronics to want meaningful relationships, let alone have them, as a guy who prefers ladies myself, I ship it lol. Second, I think it was an accident that Monty “killed” Bonnie. My head cannon always was that whatever caused the animatronics to hunt Gregory during SB didn’t take control of them, but brought out their worse traits and warped their programming. For Monty, it was his aggression and he didn’t know how to deal with it. Bonnie went to the catwalks to either comfort or talk sense into him, and Monty lashed out, accidentally knocking him over. Scared of the consequences and how Freddy would react to him “killing” his boyfriend(?), Monty made it look like an accident in Bonnie’s area should anyone have found him. Then irony strikes when he has be the bassist, a roll he clearly didn’t want because he likes to skip out on the shows and it most likely reminds him of what he did to Bonnie while facing Freddy.
@@millenial8212 Maybe, but with how hidden it was and all the work you had to do just to put two and two together, I don’t think it was just some random thing to please fans and quell a controversy. I’d even argue most casuals missed this little detail on their playthroughs until watching a video like this.
I think by “more than friends” means they were so close they were like brothers. (I’m also tired of super close friendships actually being romantic relationships because (wether heterosexual or homosexual) have just been so overused.)
Monty is smarter than I thought. I thought Monty was programmed to be that strong but fairly meatheaded as that is part of his character but now that I think about it, he’s probably putting on a facade. If we do get a sequel to security breach, Monty would make a great antagonist.
Love your videos to death!! You're my favorite fnaf content creator and everytime i see a notification from your channel i drop everything i'm doing to watch it haha
And in the 80s (the time I think the pizzaplex is based on) gay men usd to wear earrings like this to recognize one another There Is no way thee bitches ain't gay
Honestly Monty being less than smart and accidentally killing Bonnie is my favorite theory because he’s my favorite of the band and convinced me to write a cringe fanfic just because I want a happy ending that we probably won’t get Also Freddy and Bonnie being gay is amazing and you cannot convince me that it isn’t canon
awhh 😭 i knew they were fairly close friends but i didnt actually realize they had stuff and merch of eachother in eachothers rooms, thats really adorable, and sad
I feel as though the conspiracy around who killed Bonnie was ended with ruin. Because that game makes it so obvious that Monty did it, especially with his death. As you said the neon Bonnie sign killing Monty is such a good show of revenge and karma. That it really ends the debate of who did it.
Not at all. Neither the motive nor means are clear. There's no evidence that Monty was jealous of or disliked Bonnie (unlike Freddy). If Monty _was_ jealous of or disliked Bonnie, why would Bonnie walk into Gator Golf? Monty doesn't seem intelligent enough to have tricked him to go there. Monty was reluctant to perform, and hid away on the Gator Golf walkways. If he had gotten rid of Bonnie to take his place, surely he would have been happy to perform on stage? Monty didn't have his claws before Bonnie was disabled. How did he have the strength to cause that much damage to Bonnie or the wall or bowling ball? Why would Monty drag Bonnie's body behind Bonnie Bowl, and how could he do it without being seen by staff (either humans or bots)?
I would actually say it's the exact opposite. Before Ruin came out, most people were sure that Monty was the culprit. But now I've seen more and more fans rethink everything and change their minds. If it was Steel Wools intention to confirm/make it more obvious that Monty killed Bonnie, then they kinda failed lmao. Unless their intention was to show that the fandom missed something important, which would actually hint more at Monty being innocent afterall
What if Bonnie simply tripped off the Catwalks, Monty tried to grab him, he falls off the catwalks, and Monty, in panic, covers it up so he doesn’t get blamed and scrapped?
I'm honestly crossing my fingers that we get to repair Bonnie at some point, for Freddy's sake, I know what it's like to lose a best friend, it leaves a hole in your soul forever 😞💔And Freddy is clearly hurting a lot worse about the situation than most people realize... 💔
A personal theory of mine is that Monty got jealous of Glamrock Freddy after joining the band. I mean Freddy is the lead singer and the star of Fazbear Entertainment in the game, so it would kinda make sence (Also, notice the backstory of Monty portraid in RUIN) I believe that Monty in some way wanted to "get Freddy out of the way" without making it obvious. How? By getting rid of something thats dear to Freddy, aka Glamrock Bonnie (and, in the process, making it seem like an accident so hes not blamed). I think Monty hoped that the emotional damage would cause Freddy to slowly be unable to perform anymore, so that Monty could take his place. (Obviously, he as the newcomer probably wouldnt get the Star-position but yall know how montys thought-process tends to be... lets say...completely wrong at times)
wait no because i have a SADDER theory. what if bonnie fell as a TOTAL accident, no one’s fault, and monty was trying to grab him (think spider-man-esque) and couldn’t get a good enough hold, so monty’s claws just pulled thru his chest plate. he realized then what it looked like and that he would for sure be blamed, and when he found bonnie’s body and dragged him back to his room to hide the evidence so he wouldn’t get in trouble. he laid him out as good as he could and set the bowling ball stuff up as some kind of bad cover. he couldn’t help but take the glasses bc bonnie wouldn’t need them anymore and bc it was a piece of his idol he could take w him…
I love your idea about Bonnie watching everywhere through the FloorBots. One idea I heard from Rexter is that Roxy is actually the culprit for doing Bonnie in-she’s the only one with green nails. I’ll totally buy that Monty did it though.
Thank you! Monty actually has black nails and green fingers. I don't know what theorist has been saying the opposite, but they've pretty much got everyone fooled. XD
What I think happened could have happened was, this is a theory I found somewhere else though, but I thought it made sense. Bonnie’s decommissioning was self-inflicted. The slashes from the claws are his own because he had gotten the virus and was trying to get the it out anyway he could. I also think he used the bowling ball to try doing it to. There’s even a bowling mark on the wall. I feel like he wanted to get himself into safe mode by getting himself severely injured right before the pizzaplex could actually open so he doesn’t accidentally hurt guests. The reason he would have claw marks through his body would be because someone, probably Monty, was trying to perform CPR on him and was unsuccessful. They or Bonnie himself tried to contain the mess with a carpet from Monty golf and wet floor bots. He might have went to Monty Golf first because he either wanted some help or wanted to talk to Monty about taking over performing for him permanently. Then went to Bonnie Bowl so he couldn’t harm anyone or scare kids and did what happened next. It would make sense if Monty spent time all that time on the catwalks thinking about the last things Bonnie said to him. I could see why something as serious as this would be covered up so heavily if something like this really happened. Maybe the ride’s story is partly true after all. I think at least one person from the staff did know, but they deleted or didn’t record the rest of the evidence of it.
Adding onto the tragedy. its entirely possible Monty didnt even mean or want to kill Bonnie. I wonder if the “GlitchTrap/Mimic Virus” caused him to lash out uncontrollably at Bonnie on the Catwalks
Bonnie's situation reminds me of "i have no mouth and i must scream" where a supercomputer kills all the humans, but leaves a few alive, and they get tortured, but one of those humans manages to kill them, freeing them from the supercomputer, but the computer mutates him into a slug that cannot talk, he can only watch, for the rest of eternity
I Remember seeing a theory that Freddy and Bonnie use to protect children ( like Freddy protected Gregory ) the children who weren’t able to get protected ended up taking over the wet floor bots, mainly the ones surrounding Bonnie. he failed to protect them but they could attempt to protect him. It would explain this little room that you can find that has plushies, drawings and a small cot. Almost like it was built for a child. the glamrocks are insane and probably my favorite bots thru out the whole franchise ( don’t hate me for this. I love the funtimes too )
I think Monty attacking Bonnie was a combination of his jealousy and Vanny’s control. When Monty and Bonnie were up on the catwalks Monty’s anger and jealousy combined with Vanny’s control made it so he not only attacked Bonnie but pushed him over the catwalks.
Hey fun fact! A user on Twitter pointed out that the rug under Bonnie isn't just a standard rug, its a 80's arcade flooring patterned carpet, and no rea of the Pizzaplex has that carpet except for the entrance to Gator Golf. (Its hard to make out because it is drenched in oil and soot, but you can see the patter on the small patch of carpet beneath Bonnie)
That is a huge find there!
I did some digging myself ( I actually bought SB again for PC and installed debug menu)
I found something really neat.
So Bonnie is on a carpet, right? But it's perfectly rectangular.
Well, I was looking at the floor of the East Arcade.
Not only does it have the same design as the one Bonnie is found on.
It is also noticeable that this carpet is in rectangular cuts on the floor in one section.
Which makes much more sense for an animatronic to take advantage of precut carpet.
Considering Bonnie was in this area for about an hour. Which is plausible time to rip up a segment of carpet.
Are we sure Monty is the one we should be concerned about?
(Also, I checked Gator Golf for any rectangular cuts or sections like what I saw before. Nothing)
I suspect Freddy knows who did it and programming prevents him from confronting the culprit. Imagine what that would do to your psychology. It could turn you into a monster seeing all the advertisements of your friend paraded around like a gross zombie, or cause you to do something heroic, something impossible, like refusing an order to end a child Anda system reset that would allow it.
@@treena9930 I saw a post about this on Twitter, but the carpet Bonnie is laying on specifically matches the carpet pattern in Monty Golf, not the East Arcade....
@@treena9930 Oh my god. What if Bonnie asked Monty to k!ll him? It's a far out theory, but what if??
Another thing I wanted to point out is that Bonnie was also close with Chica, as she also has a bowling ball in her room like Freddy does. So it almost seems like they knew that they have been around almost since the beginning (I say almost because Chica was added later alongside Foxy) but Roxanne and Monty don't have bowling balls in there rooms as they are the "new guys" and didn't have the relationship that the other two had with Bonnie. Nice little detail that not many people notice.
Monty often visits the catwalks and that was the place Bonnie used to hang around for.
Roxy is more likely because her claws into the greed marks better than Monty's purple claws.
Monty doesn't have purple claws. He has purple gloved palms. The fingers are green, the nails are black.
To some extent, I feel like the Glamrock Bonnie room could also be a reference to William being Springlocked. Locked away in a sealed room, 4 Floorbots (which have weird child laughter/screaming ambiance around them in AR) that once they are turned off/pass on, Bonnie passes on. Almost an allegory for William
Holy ship. And then the “fifth” floor bot far away (the one that gets you into the room) being Golden Freddy. Excellent point.
Way too underrated.
I mean with the Give Gifts reference in the normal SB game I think this is definitely plausible. You kinda ate I fear
I have to wonder if the remnant of lost souls kept Bonnie alive for so long. The constant horrific cries and screams of children echoing through the wet floor bots. Just bone chilling.
Yeah that might be a possibility, maybe Cassie is letting their spirits go free aswell along the way
That seems unlikely to me considering how Golden Freddy works. We're not even sure if the suit exists anymore, but we do know its probably busted beyond repair. Yet it is still seriously haunted despite being broken.
So if it was powered by remnant, the Glamrock Bonnie would be doing similar spooky stuff like appearing out of nowhere and being generally vengeful. And I doubt it would be pacified by turning off signs.
Then again that would be a very cool design. Floating limbs, dangling lower half, glowing eyes, crooked jaw. I'd pay to see a Golden Freddy style Glamrock Bonnie. But I'm guessing too many rabbits already, considering we have Vanny, Burntrap, and the security system.
If dead children souls are in all animatronics and bots, then the Freddy's parent company is basically just the dwarves from Dragon Age.
Who even knows how remnant works anymore? It’s essentially midichlorians or lending Goku your energy. It can be whatever the writers need it to be to get the plot moving.
The glamrocks are not possessed except for freddy
I like how Freddy and Bonnie's teeth spacing in the main artwork for the cutouts fit perfectly together, as if a sort of matching set.
It's so they could k- ..kindly be the best of friends together! :-) /j
I just noticed that! Kinda cool
Just like their earings
They are so fucking gay i can't even
I’m leaning more toward the theory that Bonnie getting damaged beyond repair was an accident, and Monty tried to hide it out of panic. I don’t see a reason why Monty would deliberately decommission Bonnie as bad as we see him. I think it’s possible Bonnie met Monty on the catwalk in Monty Golf to talk, then they got into an argument about something. Monty could’ve then tried to push him a little out of anger, but he accidentally used his claws to scratch his chest, which made Bonnie fall over the edge of the catwalk. Monty then goes down to try to help him, but he sees that Bonnie got damaged so severely that he isn’t going to get up. So he tries to hide Bonnie’s body so he doesn’t get blamed for it.
That makes more sense to me. Because if he purposely decommissioned Bonnie, then why did he do it when Bonnie just randomly showed up in Monty Golf one day? I could see it if we got a report of Monty entering Bonnie Bowl, because then we’d know Monty specifically went to where Bonnie was, but unless Vanny was the cause of all this, Monty had no clue Bonnie would be in Monty Golf.
I honestly agree, especially because I was watching another theory vid on Bonnie, and they pointed out that Monty didn't even get his claws to play bass until Bonnie was already gone.(Edit: Specifically from the messages from security breach from the duffle bags)
I mean, he could've had a previous reason to want to get rid of Bonnie, and when Bonnie showed up to Monty Golf for whatever reason, he saw an opportunity and took it.
@@yustinj.3910 That’s fair, but this doesn’t seem like it was planned. I doubt Monty thought of pushing him off the catwalk and then hiding Bonnie in his room when he saw Bonnie come into Monty Golf. The fact that Bonnie was presumably pushed off the catwalk in the first place tells that he willingly went up there with Monty before he fell, unless Vanny took control of him or something. It’s hard to tell as we don’t have a lot of information.
@@theitalianmexican1035
He wouldnt even have of needed to scratch him if he was gonna push him out of the catwalks anyways
For someone who was at the very least self aware enought to not let him ob monty golf cause he knew that they would blame it on him and tried to make it look like an accident he probably would too not try to get such a big clue on Bonnie's body
I was also thinking that the claw marks could've been him trying to catch Bonnie instead, reaching out and trying to grab him but just missing and ripping a hole in his chest
For people thinking Vanny made Monty destroy Bonnie: with "Bonnie's parts were recycled for Burntrap" theory being disproven, Vanny had no possible motivation to decommission Bonnie. If he was getting in her way, she would just hack Bonnie and have a bodyguard in the area where she resides.
Vanny's motivation could have been that Bonnie had discovered that she was murdering children (to take their remnant for burntrap).
This is mostly speculative, but the association of Bonnie with the wet floor signs and the sounds of screaming children is a notable piece of evidence which could point to it.
I always saw it as Afton pitching a fit to have his fursona continue being a rabbit- so that's why Bonnie was targeted.
But it would be advantageous to Vanny if Bonnie was there. To explain away any rabbit ear sightings on camera. (It's confirmed in the tapes the thing that blurs her out on cams doesn't completely obscure the ears.)
So now, I think Monty got territorial, killed him on accident, hid him- after Vanessa just happened to steal the extra Bonnie "casings" for Peepaw.
And instead of making more, /that/ was the last straw for Fazbear Entertainment- so they got lazy and made Monty the bassist.
Sorry this turned into an essay.
What if Vanny made Monty do it as a test of her hacking ability.
@@pilloeglade5463 could be
@@pilloeglade5463well monty didn't have claws at the time of Bonnie's death, and we can see huge gashed down the chest of bonnie, monty also started raging out after bonnie was gone, I think he didn't kill him
I’m a little sad that they didn’t use his Bowling design. I actually had a head cannon that when Bonnie was around, the Pizzaplex was going to be 50s themed, but around Monty’s addition they went with the 80s look.
Edit: I do like his headband it’s stylish
I liked to think maybe he was just the only member of the band that was just wearing casual clothes, kinda fits the bassist theme lol. What he was wearing wasn’t really 50s themed either. If they were a 50s band the male characters would have been in suits with ties while the females would have had dresses of some kind.
Looking back I think the bowling design might of been meant to be classic bonnie the whole time. Faz ent probably changed the theme after he was scrapped. Its shown they still use the classics with the foxy statue in the kids cove sub lobby.
The bowling desigh was literally classic Bonnie though
i once criticized bonnie for not looking bowling themed enough, and then you realize the other glamrocks don't look like their sport either. freddy doesn't look like a futuristic space warrior, chica doesn't *really* look like an exercise trainer, roxy doesn't look like a racer, and monty doesn't look like a golfer either.
@@1Woofer1roxy looks like she would race
I think Monty and Bonnie had a relationship similar to Shifu and Tai Lung.
Bonnie took the croc on as an apprentice, a son even, and, felt that Monty would be too violent, and a bad influence on the kids. Seeing as Monty is impulsive, about as narcasistic as Roxy, but with the self confidence to be a really bad bully.
And so, Bonnie, tried teaching Monty to be the best he could be, but, when it came for Bonnie to retire, probably from losing profits for the Pizzaplex, he refused to give Monty the spotlight. And, you can fill the rest in from there.
I dont think Monty meant to kill Bonnie, since a common sign of a kill done through an emotional moment, is keeping the dead person's body on or wrapped in a blanket. It can be a sign of remorse, trying to compensate for what they've done. The most likely scenario was Monty meeting Bonnie to talk about replacing Freddy in the band, angering Bonnie, causing an argument that led to Bonnie being struck off the catwalks. Monty most likely wrapped Bonnie in a nearby fire blanket as he took him back to Bonnie Bowl, to not have to see his idol destroyed. Monty later on shattered the bowling ball, likely after trying to give Bonnie something he loved, but he destroyed it in a remorseful rage, soon leaving to not have to see him. It makes more sense with Monty's rage towards Freddy, shown in the concert stage of his game where Freddy is thrown in the dumpster and how Monty looked up to Bonnie, shown by Freddy being in the dark when Monty sees Bonnie and the others playing in the cutouts. Monty being an emotionally driven robot, blames Freddy for what happened to Bonnie and seeks to replace him in a delusional idea of revenge. I get Monty's voice actor claimed Monty has a yandere relationship with Freddy, but he's not the writers behind the story, plus he had to read his lines in a warehouse, meaning he wasn't respected.
it most definitely could have been a yandere relationship at first. i feel like with Freddy being a prototype vanny talked a lot about Freddy being replaced due to his programming being faulty (which is why he wasn't effected by the mimic virus). As you know she already mentioned this before in SB saying monty would replace him.. this may have caused the whole talk about monty coming to Bonnie about Freddy being replaced and then them fighting on the catwalks. after the fight monty became corrupted and now blames Freddy for being the initial cause of his problems.
tldr: vanny hyped monty up with replacing freddy and monty goes back to tell bonnie out of excitement for getting closer to one of his idols. this causes a fight to break out on the catwalks and bonnie gets decommissioned, the end
@@amajeee Exactly and it makes the most sense with the environmental storytelling. Plus Monty is programmed to follow his story shown in Monty Gulf, so without Bonnie being there to be a goal for Monty to be like, it leaves Monty without a motivation, outside being the best music player.
A warehouse? Really?
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon That's what I heard and it's why he has such an echo in his lines.
@@MikeFireheart Is that even normal in the voice acting gig?
A part of me is disappointed that we might never get full story for Bonnie (even with a potential second DLC, his arc seems over as the player is allowed to let him move on), but you’re right, the story told with these clues is pretty beautiful, so I’m happy with what Ruin gave us anyway even though we won’t get see him in action.
What’s makes this more tragic is that Freddy himself will never know where Bonnie went and is just going to be permanently left wondering.
I wonder, if there’s more FNAF games after this, if they’ll bring back Bonnie(+Foxy) or carry on the series with these new four.
Or maybe they could make a past DLC with Bonnie and we could find out what really happened to him, Idk probably not but it would be cool.
What about a prequal DLC...
I mean the main four always stand a big (and only) example is sister location since we got new animatronics such as baby and balora but they never replaced the ogs
Monty doesn't have green claws.
Roxy does.
I think is going to be opposite, first of all, this is five night at Freddy's and so far we've only spent two nights (Cassie and Gregory) plus we haven't seen how was the Pizzaplex in the beginning, we haven't seen the meeting of the staff (which i bet that was a gruesome one) and we still don't know where's Foxy (except for its eyes since Roxxane had them)
Freddy and Bonnie having the strongest bond also makes sense with Fred bear and Spring Bonnie being the first mascots made in universe
Editing this now to say that they're gay and homophobes can die mad
THeY aRe GaY
They are just "good friends" of course
This is exactly what I was thinking, they've known eachother since the start, to lose someone you've known for that long would be devastating.
One could argue the three costumes in the Mimic's room came before them, but those don't count, since they're not animatronics, while FredBear and SpringBonnie are springlock suits, so half the thing
Yes like finn and jake from adventure time the last episode is literally titled together again
What’s even sadder is the children’s cries you hear around those little bots. Paralyzed, and unable to do anything while watching everyone you care about around you trying to go on with life or going on without a care, it would make anyone cry.
I had never considered it before, but the idea that glamrock bonnie broke from falling off the catwalks is an idea I can get behind.
Cassie’s father might have been the one to first discover what truly happened to Glambonnie, and that incident might have driven him to quit his technician job at the Pizzaplex. Most items drive home that Bonnie was the favorite character of Cassie’s father.
It would be a pretty cool sendoff for the daughter of Glam Bonnie’s biggest fan to finally set his soul to rest.
Not to mention, she's also the one to finish off Monty.
Who would give up a job because his favorite character isn't there anymore?
I would say there is some merit to Monty accidentally pushing bonnie, Maybe the reason why hes so quick to rage now is because of him feeling guilty about getting mad at bonnie and killing him, that's why he put bonnie back in his green room and staged it, he didn't want to get caught, but also remember that the sewers exist, Monty probably could have just hid him, but Monty wanted him to be found because he felt bad. or he could have accidentally slashed him pushing him off, but he didint fully break, so at bonnie bowl he slams him into the wall that smashes his head with a bowling ball (Note the dent in the wall infront of bonnie. idk but I do feel like that big dent in the wall is important.
except bonnie had to have been killed in bonnie bowl because his sensors still would have picked up him being moved to bonnie bowl anyway (he's still alive when you find him there until you deactivate the random bots around him.) it couldn't have been monty willingly (because of more evidence from the logs and more) so either: he was framed, he did it under the control of something else, or he's just being used as a red herring
@@zeemmy33 I dont think the animatronics have sensors because vannesa is looking for Freddy in security breach and only finds him when moon captures him, so theres probably no sensors.
@@FunWare.mp4 im not sure if all of them have them (sort of like how only roxy has special eyes and only chica has a special voice box), but the log "missing" says," SECURITY REPORT - 12:24AM - Bonnie is seen leaving his green room in Rockstar Row heading East towards the atrium. 2:40AM - Bonnie enters the East Arcade. 4:12AM - Bonnie enters Monty Golf." bonnie's seen leaving his green room, but his actual location isn't seen when he enters the east arcade and enters monty golf, which shows there's some kind of sensor system in place for bonnie (even if there isn't, there's very clearly data on wherever he goes to some capacity.)
evidence shows that it was most likely an inside job from fazent, vanny did it, or someone else and monty was framed
Yeah... Perhaps both Monty & Bonnie went over the Catwalk together.... It is mentioned in a few security notes, that Monty had been damaged before by the Giant Bucket (obviously foreshadowing that Gregory needs to do so later)... But it still leaves it open to Who Moved Bonnie's Body.l?
@@zeemmy33 I think the log refers to the security cameras.
Just before you mentioned the catwalks it immediately hit me what you were about to bring up and it blew my mind.
Say what you will about the storytelling in this series but Ruin had really incredible bits of environmental clues to fill us in on certain characters, from Fazbear Entertainment's story for Bonnie's disappearance, to the cutouts of Cassie with Roxy and Gregory seemingly comforting Cassie.
It's crazy to think that Security Breach really has made the animatronics, well, more like actual characters this time around.
Personally. I'm on the mindset Monty isn't the culprit, but if he was. I really hope he lived.
Someone mentioned that the ride could have been true. That Monty really did look up to Bonnie. Then one day got his shot as a band member when Bonnie wasn't able to perform. He loved it. He loved the attention, and didn't want to let it go. Monty wanted to stay in the band longer. So he lured Bonnie. We don't know if it was meant to be an attempt to outright get rid of Bonnie, or just damage him so he would need repairs. Either way Bonnie was severely damaged. Monty may actually have severe guilt for what he did. Explaining why we have messages where he avoids shows. The books showing him just being uncharacteristically silent after a rampage. Going into a depressive state.
This probably would make Monty the best villain in all of FNAF. Cause he isn't just evil for the sake of evil, or some child who was corrupted by their abusive father.
We have a character who is flawed. Who actually had good qualities, but made bad decisions. He didn't kill Bonnie for the lolz or to hurt Freddy. He didn't cackle madly while having a monologue. He was once a potentially good person who got corrupted and now has to live with his actions.
That gets me to Bonnie's glasses. Aside from the neon sign and that kids drawing. Nothing has him wearing them. Not the plush or Pinata. Which has me thinking that Monty didn't steal these glasses from his body. Bonnie willingly gave them to him.
Then that makes this all even more tragic.
I'd like to think the electricity somehow rebooted Monty. Not to his "normal" glam-rock personality, but to a much earlier one. The humble one man jamboree. The Monty before he was corrupted by fame. Bonnie in a way gave Monty a new start in life when he directly (the rides story) or indirectly (What happened in the games universe) helped Monty join the band. Good intentions that led to a bad outcome. Now he's given Monty another chance. (Once again indirectly in universe....we don't have a cute cover up for this)
Really I think it'd be more interesting for Monty to have a redemption arc in the next game.
Not sure how it would work. I would think it shouldn't have Bonnie be fixed. Really show that despite how much Monty tries to make amends, tries to fix everything, tries to undo the damage he caused. He can never truly take away what he did. He's the reason Bonnie is gone. That's something he's going to have to live with.
That to me is the best way they can use Monty if it doesn't turn out it wasn't a red herring.
Than to just have him outright die from karma and basically bury the whole thing.
I really love this comment 😭😭
@@anthonyloveschickens I appreciate that
Holy heck wait this is good
To be honest, Monty was and still is my favorite of the band. And I do wish that since they clearly seem to be trying to go with this route they would be more honest about how the entire event unfolded. Regardless there is some issues that leave me leaning on the edge of fully blaming Monty. I'll address them below.
Monty's Claws: Yes Monty would have the exoskeleton and endoskeleton with claws before his upgrade. However, it is highly likely that these claws would be closer in shape and destructive force to Roxy's. (I am aware that Monty's legs are the things that are taken from him but his upgrade diagram clearly shows hands and not feet.) Roxy has been shown to have a level of aggression to her and has taken out plenty of staff bots around her raceway. Even though Roxy is smaller in build than Monty she does nor even in a jealous filled rage cause anywhere near the level of damage to a simple staff bot that is shown on Bonnie. Bonnie is a much larger target than a staff bot.
If you take the fact that Monty is closer in size to Freddy then yes you would have a strong amount of force behind an attack, but we have no guide other than Roxy, on how an attack without the improved and notably destructive claws would look from Monty. Monty is the only one in SB capable of busting through metal, chain link fences, which are clearly meant to keep freddy and the gang out of certain areas. If Roxy cannot bust through a metal fence, let alone another other member without these powerful claws then how would Monty be able to deal that kind of raw slashing damage to Bonnie's chest?
The shattering and fracturing could be explained by a fall certainly however the pattern of cracking on the exoskeleton is a common trait that is shared among all of the shattered gang. The same sweeping motions and fracture patterns can be found on every single broken glamrock regardless of how they were injured. As for the green paint, metal paint does not leave that kind of residue unless it is wet and Monty nas no recorded repairs to his exoskeleton or a new paint job during the time in which he would have killed Bonnie. It is hard to tell with the overlapping designs what caused the fracture patterns, and while the injuries are similar to Monty's fall from the catwalks.
Timing and Body: If they are just covering it up with the ride cut outs.. and they know that Bonnie has went missing why would not check his green room? The place where Bonnie would default to going to when injured other than parts and service. If Bonnie enters gator golf at 4:12 AM that does place him in to after hours, (meaning there would be only night staff or closing staff around) however Ruin has shown that there is a lot of cameras in the pizza plex and all around bonnie's bowl. How does a giant, gator carry a body inside of a blanket, without being seen by that many cameras? By someone, or hell recorded by a staff bot encounter.
Monty is not programmed smartly enough to on his own be able to accomplish this feat without being spotted or at the very least he could not have be slinking around without being noticed. One of the only ways Monty could have gotten Bonnie from his golf course to Bonnie Bowl without making a peep would be if Monty somehow knew a back way through the pizza plex. Like Vanny's hidden room which is "surprisingly" right next to Bonnie's Glamroom. Or if Monty was able to somehow be invisible to the cameras like Vanny has shown to be to the glamrock gang (minus Roxy's eyes).
There is more I could comment here but I will leave it here for the most part.. I think that Steelwool has casted the blame on Monty in a cruddy "did he do, or did he not" sort of way. I am sad that they have killed my boy in such a way. I believe the fandom will mostly lean towards Monty being the one to blame, even if Steelwool has some gaps and points left out for the sake of "lore". If it doesn't end up being Monty and its like Vanny, and they killed him off (maybe) for no reason that would really suck.. but ..
I do like your videos, and I enjoyed this one as well, I just needed to get these points off my chest. Keep up the great videos!
I feel it's basically confirmed Monty did it of his own violition, simply because its the Neon Bonnie sign that does him in finally.
Fnaf loves it's karmic justice, and that detail would be pointless otherwise.
I think it's possible Monty felt guilt after to some extent even if he was in denial of said guilt in all likelyhood, and was definitely consistently extra stressed over that fact, hence his rising anger issues and avoiding performing.
But I think he DEFINITELY did it on purpose, at best in some fit of rage.
Also the fact that the fall DOESNT kill Monty himself is a further sign of his intents.
I feel he had to of done a follow up attack to finish Bonnie off given he survives such a fall.
@@JammyJam5588 I think Bonnie and Monty got into an argument while on the catwalks, and Monty in a fit of rage shoved Bonnie. Either the hit caused the hole in Bonnie’s chest, or Monty tried to grab him to keep him from falling but ended up causing the damage. When Bonnie broke apart, Monty (maybe unaware that Bonnie was still alive) grabbed a carpet/sheet and hid Bonnie’s body either in fear of being found out, as a means to get rid of the evidence, or perhaps was regretful and didn’t want to hurt the other bandmates with the news of Bonnie’s decommission.
So yes, at BEST Bonnie’s demise was done in a fit of emotional rage, and at WORST was a deliberate attack from Monty on Bonnie.
I find it inconsistent that some animatronics can get damaged so horribly and yet still pursue our POV characters like Monty. Monty is a quarter of his former self. he fell and as he was falling he was crushed and bisected his claws were taken and later on through neglect he was stripped of his outer panels and who knows what else happened to him. Meanwhile Bonnie got his chest slashed open (one that is usually empty for cakes and oversized pinatas.... and children) arm ripped (I think it is just one arm that is ripped) and his head casing cracked and that's it he ded. Really Bonnie? come on dude stop playing and walk it off.
i dont think he can walk...
crawl it off maybe?
There may be some kind of brain equivalent? Like he can’t get back up because some important processor was damaged, and maybe it got out okay with Monty (for the most part, see Ruin /hj)? Idk about robotics but I could understand that because they could’ve fallen differently and/or Monty could’ve specifically targeted it (being a robot himself, perhaps he knew about it. Tho freddy didn’t know about endos until Gregory showed him, so maybe Monty’s just lucky. or really mangled him bad, and Gregory couldn’t do the same to him being a kid and not a roboticist). and since monty is made to be in the catwalks, he could also have more protection for his endo in case he does fall (they wouldn’t expect the ball container to drop on him too but that extra protection could be what helped him out. we don’t know how close a call it could’ve been). Lots of explanations 🤔
@@SketchUTgoing off the theory of robot brain damage causing paralysis, I wonder if he fell from the catwalks as the result of a temper tantrum from Monty, wherein he swung without thinking. Monty could have found him knocked out on the floor and seen an opportunity, then took him back to Bonnie Bowl and finished him off with a bowling ball to the head while he was incapacitated. Gruesome but possible. It's also possible that in spite of Monty's general stupidity, he knew what parts kept the animatronic running and gutted Bonnie while he was unconscious in order to remove specific parts so he wouldn't get back up. Like you said, many possibilities.
It could have the virus allowing him to survive the Damage
@@nugget1631 oooo yeah that could totally happen imo! I personally like the idea of Monty just having insane luck, and grabbing at random stuff he manages to get the right thing, but it also could be knowledge they all have, even if barebones. Stupidity and intelligence can coexist in different realms, so he could just be great at knowing animatronic parts but like. nothing else hdkdhdksb
The "Relationship" that was between Freddy and Bonnie is notable since the animatronics are treated like assets and not so much like people (if Vanessa's interactions with Freddy are anything to go off of), so it would stand to reason that the animatronics would want to band together and see kinship in this way. This goes deeper for Freddy and Bonnie since they found a deeper kindship with one another. It may not have been "lovers" as some folks think (they kinda lack the parts to go THAT far), but they certainly shared the closest bond. This would tie into why Monty would actually go after Bonnie since all of Monty's asperations is to be the lead of the band and dethrone Freddy, but to do that, he'd need to also get rid of Bonnie since the two were so close, and it showed since with Bonnie gone, it only would take any little thing for Freddy to be replaced with Monty (again, according to Vanessa).
I thought the exact same thing... but I was not expecting you to say "yeah so it's kinda implied Freddy and Bonnie might have been a thing."
Actually though it would explain Monty and Freddy's bad relationship. Freddy isn't over Bonnie and isn't readily accepting his replacement, and Monty isn't treated as warmly and openly by Freddy as he is by the others.
ETA god guys stop fighting I don't even necessarily LIKE Glamrock Freddy x Glamrock Bonnie nor do I think it's solid irrefutable evidence I just kinda also was on the same thought train of "yeah that does kinda potentially suggest that" and then was taken by surprise when NRN NAA said the same
True! If Monty’s ride tells a narrative story, then Monty adding a headless Freddy statue is his way of telling what happened next. Given the spotlights, Freddy and Monty weren’t super close, but it was after Monty became a glamrock that Monty HATED Freddy.
Just... No.
@@thenightscythe2030 ?
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@@thenightscythe2030 ...wat
Really excellent theory! A good way to bring all the in-game clues together. I did have a moment when the piñata Bonnie was brought up where my brain went “what if the Mimic saw some kids absolutely destroying a Bonnie piñata and the Mimic just went ham on the real Bonnie.” I don’t think there’s anything there because there’s plenty of evidence against the Mimic killing Bonnie, but it was at least funny for a second!
We know that the mimic was trapped in the basement at some point, but do we know that it was trapped _during the time when security breach takes place?_
If not, the mimic suddenly becomes a major suspect for Bonnie's murder, as they have an even more obvious motive than Monty. Other people have noticed that Bonnie's arms have been pulled off, which is something that the mimic is known to do (though this is admittedly very weak evidence).
What if Bonnie and Monty were just talking to each other on the catwalks, a nice safe place away from cameras, maybe where they could talk about Monty becoming the new bass player. When Bonnie slipped and started to fall off the catwalk, Monty reached out to try and save Bonnie, but forgot about his new claws. The claws ripped a hole in Bonnie’s chest as he fell from the catwalks. Monty, feeling guilty and scared, dragged Bonnie’s body to Bonny Bowl, a place that would be more fitting for Bonny, and he placed the wet floor signs around him. Monty then breaks a bowling ball on the wall as a “burial ritual”
The problem with the theory about Monty doing the damage is that the messages imply that Monty didn't receive those killer claws until Bonnie disappeared
Yeah but also Monty having an aggressive personality and temper could make him act out.he doesn’t need claws to do damage as he’s shown to be strong as hell,I doubt the claw modifiers made him stronger just made him more effective at wrecking things
@@notdeadyet3680 ".he doesn’t need claws to do damage as he’s shown to be strong as hell"
When? Monty is never shown without his claws.
@notdeadyet3680 yeah but it's also implied that he's violent tendencies started after he got the claw upgrades, destroying everything he came across. Which also explains why in his promotional art (the ones you see painted in the walls) he is shown with a more laid back personality, but just my opinion of course
Monty always had claws, ffs stop making excuses of his innocence. This community has been doing that for almost 3 years now.
@@DylTheRetroDemonThe video itself mentioned the claw upgrade for monty to play the bass, Stop making excuses to incriminate monty
I feel the Freddy signed poster may be because Freddy and Bonnie have been friends for over 45 years at this point.
Minor point but that final wet floor bot doesn't spawn unless you deactivate every other bot. So those really are the last four wet floor signs in the game
I feel compelled to wonder how much abuse these animatronics can take while still being able to move around. If we add some Remnant into G. Bonnie, is he able to come to life? Monty was still moving along fine and he was just running off of spite and idiocy.
"Just running off of spite and idiocy" lmaoooo
on a VERY off-topic note, on 6:20, look at Vanessa's nail color. it's frickin purple >:D
also, it would kinda make sense with Fronnie being a thing, especially the hinting and implications, and tbh, it's kinda cute yet so sad :(
You can only hope that Bonnie might get a chance to see Freddy again. Or at least give Freddy closure...
To add to the Freddy+Bonnie relationship is that their earrings are on opposite ears
Also there's a slight link to Fredbear+Spring Bonnie, with them being basically the 2 original animatronics
When Ruin came out and all the stuff about Bonnie was uncovered, my friend and I were talking about how interesting it was that every game- Afton and Henri's hatred for each other seems to grow (for good reason mind you) while Bonnie and Freddy, their respective creations, grow closer through every game (no matter what form you can view their relationship as). It's super neat
I agree with your take about Bonnie. I wish Monty hadn’t been responsible, but it most very likely is his fault (even if it wasn’t on purpose). So I don’t feel as bad in wrecking Monty (especially in Ruin), but it’s a shame his character and Chica’s character never got redemption. I’m glad at least Roxy got her redemption.
Your theory about Freddy & Bonnie being in a relationship is actually very interesting. It would make more sense however I never thought of it like that I just thought they were very close friends
THey ArE gAy
Historian behavior
They got matching earrings (marriage rings~)
@@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 I didint even realize that lol.
And they were roommates
Edit: this comment is different, I wanted to rewrite it so it didn’t come off as “Your wrong, I’m right.” I’ll keep my points the same, I’m just going to reword some ramblings and try to check my tone.
This theory is by far my favorite SB theory by now. Probably top 5 fnaf theories of all time. It’s well put together and has details I never noticed (falling Bonnie). Clearly a huge amount of research and care went into this. I mostly want to speculate and propose alternatives.
One alternative could be Vanny, as we know Bonnie’s room has a vent that leads to Fazerblast and the third princess quest minigame. This room is obviously important to Vanny, but that minigame holds the key to stopping Glitchtrap. If that game was there the whole time, Vanny would want complete control over that room, giving her a motive to off Bonnie. It’s also possible Bonnie saw too much or was in the way of Vanny using that vent. Vanny has a disassemble button for not only the staff bots, but for the animatronics as well (scrapped concept but still). It is possible Vanny controlled Monty by ordering him to “disassemble Bonnie,” which would explain his injuries. However, this doesn’t explain the bowling ball or location.
I also think there’s more to explore with where did Bonnie actually die, and how did Monty make a decent cover up. I never noticed the Blanket under bonnie, so keen eye there. The weird mark on the wall can be from a thrown bowling ball like you said. I like details I never noticed.
My speculation is Vanny was involved, but is not the direct culprit. The Bonnie last seen message presumably sparked-albeit a bad-investigation. If Monty was seen dragging a large blanket to Bonnie bowl it would have been reported unless the person writing the report chose not to mention it. Vanny I think would mention Monty offing Bonnie, if only to get rid of Monty. The only reason she’s keep him around is if she’s got him under lock and key already. Vanny’s been taking kids well before Gregory, and made the disassemble button before Gregory was well. Vanny’s likely been tampering with the animatronics before the virus (maybe why eclipse is weird? Didn’t steel wool say Moon isn’t effected by the virus? That could be wrong info).
Again, this theory is amazing. I haven’t seen a fnaf theory this well done since Matpats fnaf 2 theory. The composition of the video is very professional and I’m a sucker for a narrative story. Love the FreddyxBonnie bit (they’ve got matching earrings, that’s pretty much engagement rings lol). Very fun to watch, you did a wonderful job. I just like speculating.
But why would Vannesa/Vanny want to harm Bonnie? What does she gain from losing someone she can have control over? When she couldn't control Freddy she just beheaded him. Why have Monty do any of that? Why eliminate Bonnie? What does she gain?
Additonal point: Vanessa didn't control the glamrocks until the night the game takes place, that's why Freddy bugged out, remember? She had the staffbots, who have no persoanlities to override and far less complex computers to hack. But not the glamrocks. Not until the night she tried to get Gregory.
Additional point 2: The phrasing of the messages about night staff and Vanessa's hiring makes it sound recent, plus you find the destroyed staff meeting. But the notices about Bonnie seemed to have happened earlier. A lot of the "Vanessa did it" points stem from the assumption (not even theory, assumption) Vanessa was even an employee at the time. But there's no proof she was.
@@aromaladyellie my main point is that Bonnie was, in a way, a threat. I could be wrong on my theory, and I probably am. But for the sake of discussion I imagine Glitchtrap would want his one weakness on lock down. I dont know if she had the button during Bonnie’s death, but she’s likely been tampering with things for a while. Her costume can’t be seen by any of the animatronics and she’s been kidnapping kids for a while. Why haven’t the animatronics noticed? Maybe Bonnie noticed Vanny using the vent or being around a kid. Or maybe Vanny wanted his hideout room and the princess quest 3 minigame.
I like your point about Vanny being recent. I genuinely haven’t thought of that. Going by the newspaper in the leave ending, Vanny’s been efficient at the Pizzaplex for a while. She’s got a costume that keeps the animatronics from seeing her (although she might have stolen it from a level 5 technician). She’s also got a disassemble button that was originally going to work on the glamrocks (scrapped concept). Given the sleepovers she’s been having with peepaw Afton I just think she’s been here a while. If Vanessa/Vanny didn’t write the Bonnie last seen message, then who did? The message is extremely wrong, claiming Bonnie was last seen in Monty golf. Vanessa’s also Been attending a LOT of Faz therapy, multiple sessions with multiple therapists. I don’t know how old those new hire messages are, but it Vanny would have to be Sonic to get that much done that quickly.
Not gonna lie, Ruin's reveal of Glam Bonnie and the backstory behind it were helpful for me. As a fanfiction writer with my own Five Nights series posted online and being popular enough that my phone was going nuts with notifications when I was posting it more quickly, I touched on Bonnie in the first part but it was posted when SB was just really released. Now I can update it in the fourth upcoming part (Ruin storyline but competent young adults) and I love it
That's awesome! I love hearing that! 8D
The worst part is that we never see Cassie leave the Pizzaplex. In the main ending, she dies, and in the scooper ending, we never see her leave. Even if Cassie finding Bonnie is canon, she likely never got to tell Freddy.
". In the main ending, she dies" No, Cassie is still alive, Roxy calls out to her at the end.
@@prufan Roxy calling out to her doesn’t make her alive
After "Scooping" the Mimic, she could just backtrack to the Opening she came through.
But it is heavily implied that this ending is just to Mirror the Burntrap/Blob Ending..... Being labeled "the Good Ending" to mirror the "Bad Ending" from the original game
@username5155 its implied she survive because you hear roxy call out in the end, why do you think writers added that line, context clues man
@@GreatRaijin coulda been the mimic pretending to be Roxy tho too. I doubt it but the idea still exists.
The amount of fanart that will be spawned with the phrase "together forever" is scary
I didn't think of the floor bots like that. Imagine that Bonnie was able to view what was going on through the Pizzaplex with those, sorta like someone on a security camera being able to view everything in a building but you have no ability to interact with what you see. He would have been forced to see Freddy greave, Roxy and Chica deal with their own problems, Gregory's stuff in SB, and then worst of all, seeing Monty thriving. It was probally like being in a Purgatory.
I love this theory so much, Bonnie and Freddy's relationship looks to me like an odd paralel to Henry and Afton, but as well the Monty history looks a bit like Steelwolf taking the lore torch from Scott
This could also explain why Monty skips out on performances at times to hang out on the catwalks. He probably feels some guilt or he at least knows how Bonnie was decommissioned
It's strange, we have so much evidence that we can piece together, but things just don't seem to add up.
Like for example, people have been saying that Bonnie really *did* give up his position for Monty, and after that, his "greenroom" became that area behind the curtains in Bonnie bowl. But that doesn't make any sense, seeing as one of the notes you pick up states that he leaves his greenroom in *Rockstar Row,* then ends in Gator Golf. So it seems like he was still in the band before he was decommissioned.
To me, the Gator Golf ride is the cover up, not actually Monty's backstory. One of the other notes states that they don't have anything to tell the kids asking about Bonnie.
Either that, or Bonnie really *did* give up his position. Whether willingly, or forcefully. Because that would explain why his new room is in Bonnie bowl. But again, there's that note that says he left his room in Rockstar Row.
Oh, now there's a theory. Bonnie was shelved because of Monty, Bonnie confronts Monty one night, and something goes terribly wrong.
That has me thinking
Bonnie has been known to be the most aggressive animatronic of the base 5. In every game he's in, he attacks first. He attacks the most. He ate a cat! It's like, we don't know what Glamrock Bonnie was like. Yes he may have been close to Freddy. That doesn't mean he' still wouldn't be dangerous.
I have to wonder.
Did Bonnie go to Monty Golf to attack Monty. Not Monty luring him in like we thought. Monty just retaliated. He was ambushed and so attacked back.
Another is that they both were always fighting, and eventually. Monty won.
Just like an ace-attorney case where you realize the victim might've deserved it.
Monty and Bonnie might be a case of pure coincidence
Monty being the aggressor.
Bonnie being the dangerous one, and Monty actually being more misunderstood
or both of them just being villainous characters, where Monty just had the upper hand.
Friends use the word love too. Remember love comes in many forms. People love their family and friends
I do believe that all the animatronics had their personalities messed with. Roxy being narcassitic but in Ruin she’s back to her original personality. I do think Monty wasn’t always aggressive. I wonder if this is the mimic’s doing on copying his code to other animatronics and things that make them more violent and aggressive. I think Game Theory needs to see this. That small detail at the crime scene you made is very interesting.
The fact that Monty’s sunglasses may have originally belong to Bonnie makes me lean more towards Monty purposefully destroyed Bonnie, and after the deed was done he took Bonnie’s sunglasses as a trophy.
Also if Monty did admire Freddy before replacing Bonnie I don’t think he does now, I’d say the fame probably got to his head. The final level of the Monty arcade game where Monty is now the star of the show while Freddy is in a dumpster, and the headless Freddy statue at the end of the Monty ride makes me think that he was planning to get rid of Freddy, and just like with Bonnie take Freddy’s place as the new singer.
The story I have in my head is that Bonnie was sneaking over to Montys place to help him practice his guitar and maybe they were playing around with Montys ride and Bonnie fell.
I believe Bonnie became shattered and broken after falling and then Monty tried to help him, he carried him back to Bonnies room, Bonnie realized that trying to help him would be useless because even if they could fix him, they would just fix his outer shell and replace his damaged endo with another one, the same threat Vanessa made to Freddy. So Bonnie told Monty to take the important parts from inside of him so that he can upgrade himself and become the new memeber of the Glamrocks. He then tore into Bonnie and took whatever his upgrade was inside of him and had it in his possession so that when the staff at the Pizzaplex was ready to turn the old Monty into a Glamrock they used the parts from Bonnie that were in Montys room.
I believe that Montys debut was the first day we spend locked in the Pizzaplex, and thats why his room is unfinished and hes smashing and breaking stuff inside his room is because his idol who basically set him up and helped his dream become a reality.. was gone, he basically replaced him because he got him destroyed by asking him to take a ride with him, swinging around and accidently making Bonnie fall. Monty is grieving, I believe this is why Monty falling in Security Breach is so sad because it happened to Bonnie and I believe the Bonnie sign being turned on and killing Monty was symbolism, basically Bonnie telling Monty to just let it go and be at peace and the only way Monty could be at peace is if he was put to rest.
Thats fanfi-
Also I can't believe how Markiplier got exactly what happened when he was jokingly defending Monty in one of his videos about Ruin lol
Also the fact that they chose wet floor sign bots specifically as the way to find Bonnie and as the things that surround him make it also more tragic as the wet floor signs have an image of a person slipping and falling, confirming that Bonnie indeed fell off of the Catwalks.
Or maybe I am just over-overanalyzing this
I mean the image on the Caution bots is of an animatronic falling and this theory makes the most sense as to why the 'pat-pats' were even involved with the Bonnie storyline. Lovely sleuthing, keep up the great work!!
Great deductions all around, this just makes the tragedy look so perfectly executed. Whether or not this is intentional by Steel Wool or not, I hope some artists and writers use this to make incredible and interesting fan works.
Who knew Freddy was an gay icon...welp, he is an bear after all 😳
5:29 I don’t think they were in a relationship tbh I think they were just good friends
The hint that F and B were possibly romantically involved is a bittersweet surprise. Thanks for sharing!
I think you've got it. Your solution lines up with how steel wool was focussed on environmental storytelling with the tarp and the cable, so I'm absolutely sold on it.
I'm inclined to say the initial fall was an accident though. If it was cold-blooded murder, the only motivation would have been to join the band in Bonnie's stead. But we know that Monty skips out on performances regularly, so he clearly isn't that attached to the position. I think Monty got angry and swung without thinking, and did his best to cover his tracks, like you said.
All that matters is we need another DLC where Cassie or Gregory tells Freddy where his special Bonnie bestie is all this time, his location in his bowling alley! I legit cried when I first saw him like this! I still do cry still, why are people so mean to Bunny's! 😭😢😎🤓
I don't think Bonnie's decommissioning was a planned attack because we can see how Monty's emotions make him do the majority of what he does. It would also explain why he goes up to the catwalks so often, maybe he feels guilt? What I'm saying is that Monty's too big of an idiot to plan out Bonnie's murder.
Was it Monty?
Was it the Mimic?
Was it me?
What is real?,what is false?,what is anything at all?
WE ARE IN A SIMULATION. WAKE UP.
There’s no doubt your analysis is very interesting. Even though we don’t have all the answers, there are 2 things that are for sure.
1: Burntrap isn’t made from Bonnie’s remains.
2: Monty must have had some involvement regardless.
I never thought a video about an animatronic rabbit would make me so sad, poor Glamrock Bonnie.
I like all the points for this aside from the bowling ball itself- The damage on Bonnie's head is circular. I kind of assumed Monty picked it up and finished Bonnie off after dragging him to where he ended up. Maybe he was still alive- That fall DIDN'T kill Monty after all, he was still able to move, hence why he'd gone the route of removing his limbs. Perhaps not having any other ideas, he grabbed a bowling ball and finished him off so hard the ball broke and shattered, along with Bonnie's head case and possibly memory cards etc. Maybe Monty was trying not to get caught?
I mean, maybe, but the damage on his head doesn't really match it. It matches the catwalk fall. If you look, he has that same would that Monty has on the eye.
I agree that Monty could've taken apart Bonnie's limbs so he couldn't move, and that as of Ruin Bonnie is largely uploaded into the wet floor bots, explaining why he shuts down when they are.
i can't believe monty would do this waah
i mean yeah, he is aggressive as hell, and to be honest, with how straightforward steel wool's fnaf games' lore has been (not a bad thing at all!!), he probably was the one to kill him. but your point about bonnie's damage looking practically identical to shattered monty's is very good, i never noticed that before
In one of the Bonnie messages from the Pizzaplex staff, it literally states that Bonnie is "out of commission" as in broken, if management KNEW Bonnie was shattered, that meant they found him, but didn't do anything to help him. They just...left him there, they just replaced him with Monty the moment they found out, it's mind-boggling how they did "emergency repairs" on Monty right after he first fell from the catwalks but didn't do any emergency repairs on Bonnie once they found him. But I guess that's Fazbear Entertainment for ya
5:04 Well of course Freddy and Bonnie are more than friends, they're practically brothers!
while I was playing sb for the first time in the back of my mind I was wandering where bonnie is, and I got very excited to see him included in ruin
I'm a sucker for the no evidence "Monty killed the wrong person" theory. Went to kill Freddy, maybe Bonnie got the message instead or went to confront Monty, there was a tussle and Bonnie got got. Panic's a hell of a thing. And now Monty's super mad cause he went and attacked the wrong person, his idol, and still has to deal with the one person he doesn't like.
If it was a possession it would be even worse, as far as he knows he murdered no one and there no way there wouldn't be people whispering around him that he might have had something to do with, even if it were just a few staffers. Who wouldn't be mad at false accusations?
Thou I will say if it's cause he wanted to be closer to Freddy its spicy in at least the concept that all this 'Monty hates Freddy' stuff we see everywhere is just company assigned drama...like the company is taking advantage of the possible robot murder side of him and setting up beef. like holy smokes if that was the case no wonder he breaks all there stuff! XD
And when it comes to the bass claws I don't think Monty needed them persay. Have you seen the suckers on Roxy? Or just how embarrassingly powerful the animatronics in the series are? I wouldn't bat an eye at the idea of a normal endo being that strong to leave gouges.
That is an excellent point, actually! And that theory could work with the evidence we have too.
One bit of evidence that somebody pointed out... Montgomery Gator did not get claws until after he replaced Bonnie! They were added so he could play the bass... So he couldn't have used them to kill Bonnie or leave those green paint flecks. Montgomery Gator is getting set up!
I like the theory that Vanny took over Monty first, made him attack Bonnie, and then took over chica. Then in ruin, Roxy is diactivated, reliving her of the virus.
MatPat needs to stop all that nonsense about books and mimics and Aftons and give us a theory about who was the top and who was the bottom between Freddy and Bonnie. That's the true important lore
Okay, hear me out....
Both of them are switches
@@maisathedragonartist3364 Hmmm you might be onto something
I dont know about you, but me and my close friends are CLOSE. Some people mistake us for couples sometimes. We both love each other as siblings or sisters. We can be pretty weird sometimes too lol
Freddy and Bonnie being super close friends is just more believable to me lol
What makes it a little worse is the fact that both bonnie and freddy have matching earrings/ear piercings.
In their animated forms, the ear rings match the others eyes.
Solid points but it would've been difficult for monty to tear open Bonnie, he didn't have his claws back then!
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Bonnie's an interesting sort. My interpretation is that Monty was chosen to replace him in the main band before whatever happened to the animatronic himself; supported by numerous things. The changed marketing, particularly the sunglasses, which only show up on that neon sign of Bonnie twice - once in his back room in the bowling alley, and the other time in a flooded, under-construction ride not accessible to the public. That second sign is the one that kills Monty for good, halfway underwater as it was. Bonnie's hands have no claws, but he still _has_ hands, indicitive of them being replaced and given to Monty before Bonnie got taken apart, and the note in base SB does indeed mention that Monty had 'already had the proper adjustments made' for that purpose. Bonnie's greenroom itself, of course - an area for him to stay in even after being removed from the band, from Rockstar Row. The 'Monty shrine' behind Gator Golf's stage is likely a similar, but now disused, location. And I doubt Fazbear Entertainment would just throw out a fully functioning animatronic, even if he was losing some popularity. The glasses are likely a counterpart to the base guitar, by the way, since the color scheme match with both having that orangish-yellow shade accented with darker colors.
Green paint transfer is a difficult thing to point out, because Monty's hands are purple for the most part. He wears gloves, painted on though they may be, and only a little bit of his hands are green. _Chica's_ hands are mostly green, but I of course hardly expect it to have been her somehow growing claws to do that and the color is much brighter anyways.
I suspect, if it were Monty, he was not alone. Bonnie is surrounded by STAFF bot parts and some loose endo components, which came neither from Monty (assumedly) nor from Bonnie himself. It's possible he was jumped by a group, though whether that is with Monty's insistence or Vanny's control that said group did that, it is difficult to say. He could well have been drawn and quartered.. or, more than quartered. A lot more pieces than just four.
Monty's damage, admittedly, doesn't make much sense to begin with. But, since it's consistent, it seems it still works fine, even though he honestly shouldn't have that big chunk in his chest missing. His facial damage was from slamming into the ground, and his joint separation is very prominently displayed during the cutscene, but that chest damage and, honestly, the damage to his arms as well, doesn't make that much sense. Bonnie's is more tame in limb damage - the joints have split and the casing is cracked and chipped, as though from a large impact. It makes sense that he would likely have done so. The cutout is pretty good proof.
I never did think about that - Bonnie's upgrade being superjump legs is fitting for a bunny. That would indeed explain why Monty can lunge like that, and his boss fight itself, where he constantly lunges and jumps around. Much better than his Ruin encounter on those same catwalks, where he usually falls off of them.
The 'blanket' is actually not a blanket. It is a large carpet square, the sort that honestly probably takes industrial bulk orders to get produced at all. And its pattern matches that of Gator Golf. It's very telling.
13:36 Monty doesn't think a lot at all, indeed. He gets caught on the fence after lunging at Cassie from the pipe in the intro, he struggles and fails against doors and gates during many sections, and that fall he has right before dying is actually him falling from the incomplete log flume - going out of bounds, his animation starts on the end of its slide, out of sight, but he clearly comes from that exact spot before slamming into a bunch of scaffolding and throwing himself back into water again, somehow not dying immediately to that alone.
What happens to Bonnie is possibly orchestrated by another. Someone moves that final bot into place, if you've gotten all the others. Whether that was Bonnie, seeking rest at last, or another entity trying to take him down, is unknown. Bots that scream, when viewed through the mask, likely due to what they, too, have been forced to witness whenever Vanny creates a wet floor of her own.
9:56 unpopular theory: monty only became aggressive AFTER bonnie got shattered, similar to how Freddy grieves bonnie’s decommissioning, monty possibly destroys things and even becomes aggressive towards staff to cope, he had a one sided friendship to Bonnie, bonnie focusing on the main band instead of him… so he became aggressive once he found out bonnie was decommissioned. And he may have actually been an ally, but Vanny might have pushed monty to his breaking point (pun intended). Vanny may have forced monty to do it, and monty only becomes Angry after Bonnies death
I always thought it was an accident that Monty tried to cover up, maybe they were getting into an argument about something and Monty took it too far. Maybe he dragged Bonnie to his bowling alley and Bonnie started waking up, panicked, scratches on his chest, Monty freaks out and smashes his head with a bowling ball, finishing the job. It would make sense if that's why he started being aggressive out of trauma of hurting a friend, although maybe a friend that attacked or got aggressive first.
First of all, kudos to Steel Wool (and possibly Scott himself) for implying Freddy and Bonnie were in a same-gender relationship, without making it a focus point just to score points with “certain” parties that will never pay attention to this franchise. Even though I find it weird for the animatronics to want meaningful relationships, let alone have them, as a guy who prefers ladies myself, I ship it lol.
Second, I think it was an accident that Monty “killed” Bonnie. My head cannon always was that whatever caused the animatronics to hunt Gregory during SB didn’t take control of them, but brought out their worse traits and warped their programming. For Monty, it was his aggression and he didn’t know how to deal with it. Bonnie went to the catwalks to either comfort or talk sense into him, and Monty lashed out, accidentally knocking him over. Scared of the consequences and how Freddy would react to him “killing” his boyfriend(?), Monty made it look like an accident in Bonnie’s area should anyone have found him.
Then irony strikes when he has be the bassist, a roll he clearly didn’t want because he likes to skip out on the shows and it most likely reminds him of what he did to Bonnie while facing Freddy.
the catwalks are shown to be slippery sometimes...
Meh scott probably saw the controversy he was in and decided to put in a random same gender relationship to please the fans
@@millenial8212 Maybe, but with how hidden it was and all the work you had to do just to put two and two together, I don’t think it was just some random thing to please fans and quell a controversy. I’d even argue most casuals missed this little detail on their playthroughs until watching a video like this.
I think by “more than friends” means they were so close they were like brothers. (I’m also tired of super close friendships actually being romantic relationships because (wether heterosexual or homosexual) have just been so overused.)
Knowing Bonnie was just behind the Bowling Alley when we brought Freddy there…
Monty is smarter than I thought. I thought Monty was programmed to be that strong but fairly meatheaded as that is part of his character but now that I think about it, he’s probably putting on a facade. If we do get a sequel to security breach, Monty would make a great antagonist.
Damn it really makes you wonder if Bonnie really was watching the whole time through the wet floor signs.. rip Bonnie man
Love your videos to death!! You're my favorite fnaf content creator and everytime i see a notification from your channel i drop everything i'm doing to watch it haha
Don’t worry, it’s not the first time we’ve seen robots have a close relationship in scott’s games before.
@@whygosh3217which ones?
@@Victoria_drawz Alphus and Amos from the desolate hope, one of Scott’s older games.
It’s sadly doesn’t help that alphus’s life is just tragic too.:(
let’s not forget that freddy and bonnie both have the same matching earring but on the opposite ear so maybe they really were a thing
And in the 80s (the time I think the pizzaplex is based on) gay men usd to wear earrings like this to recognize one another
There Is no way thee bitches ain't gay
Honestly Monty being less than smart and accidentally killing Bonnie is my favorite theory because he’s my favorite of the band and convinced me to write a cringe fanfic just because I want a happy ending that we probably won’t get
Also Freddy and Bonnie being gay is amazing and you cannot convince me that it isn’t canon
awhh 😭
i knew they were fairly close friends but i didnt actually realize they had stuff and merch of eachother in eachothers rooms, thats really adorable, and sad
I feel as though the conspiracy around who killed Bonnie was ended with ruin. Because that game makes it so obvious that Monty did it, especially with his death. As you said the neon Bonnie sign killing Monty is such a good show of revenge and karma. That it really ends the debate of who did it.
True, but in this very comment section there are still angry Monty stans insisting that it absolutely couldn’t have been their poor sweet baby!
Not at all. Neither the motive nor means are clear.
There's no evidence that Monty was jealous of or disliked Bonnie (unlike Freddy).
If Monty _was_ jealous of or disliked Bonnie, why would Bonnie walk into Gator Golf? Monty doesn't seem intelligent enough to have tricked him to go there.
Monty was reluctant to perform, and hid away on the Gator Golf walkways. If he had gotten rid of Bonnie to take his place, surely he would have been happy to perform on stage?
Monty didn't have his claws before Bonnie was disabled. How did he have the strength to cause that much damage to Bonnie or the wall or bowling ball?
Why would Monty drag Bonnie's body behind Bonnie Bowl, and how could he do it without being seen by staff (either humans or bots)?
I would actually say it's the exact opposite. Before Ruin came out, most people were sure that Monty was the culprit. But now I've seen more and more fans rethink everything and change their minds. If it was Steel Wools intention to confirm/make it more obvious that Monty killed Bonnie, then they kinda failed lmao. Unless their intention was to show that the fandom missed something important, which would actually hint more at Monty being innocent afterall
People questioning Freddy and Bonnie's relationship be like: I know what you are
What if Bonnie simply tripped off the Catwalks, Monty tried to grab him, he falls off the catwalks, and Monty, in panic, covers it up so he doesn’t get blamed and scrapped?
I'm honestly crossing my fingers that we get to repair Bonnie at some point, for Freddy's sake, I know what it's like to lose a best friend, it leaves a hole in your soul forever 😞💔And Freddy is clearly hurting a lot worse about the situation than most people realize... 💔
A personal theory of mine is that Monty got jealous of Glamrock Freddy after joining the band. I mean Freddy is the lead singer and the star of Fazbear Entertainment in the game, so it would kinda make sence (Also, notice the backstory of Monty portraid in RUIN) I believe that Monty in some way wanted to "get Freddy out of the way" without making it obvious. How? By getting rid of something thats dear to Freddy, aka Glamrock Bonnie (and, in the process, making it seem like an accident so hes not blamed). I think Monty hoped that the emotional damage would cause Freddy to slowly be unable to perform anymore, so that Monty could take his place. (Obviously, he as the newcomer probably wouldnt get the Star-position but yall know how montys thought-process tends to be... lets say...completely wrong at times)
wait no because i have a SADDER theory. what if bonnie fell as a TOTAL accident, no one’s fault, and monty was trying to grab him (think spider-man-esque) and couldn’t get a good enough hold, so monty’s claws just pulled thru his chest plate. he realized then what it looked like and that he would for sure be blamed, and when he found bonnie’s body and dragged him back to his room to hide the evidence so he wouldn’t get in trouble. he laid him out as good as he could and set the bowling ball stuff up as some kind of bad cover. he couldn’t help but take the glasses bc bonnie wouldn’t need them anymore and bc it was a piece of his idol he could take w him…
I love your idea about Bonnie watching everywhere through the FloorBots. One idea I heard from Rexter is that Roxy is actually the culprit for doing Bonnie in-she’s the only one with green nails. I’ll totally buy that Monty did it though.
Thank you!
Monty actually has black nails and green fingers. I don't know what theorist has been saying the opposite, but they've pretty much got everyone fooled. XD
What I think happened could have happened was, this is a theory I found somewhere else though, but I thought it made sense. Bonnie’s decommissioning was self-inflicted. The slashes from the claws are his own because he had gotten the virus and was trying to get the it out anyway he could.
I also think he used the bowling ball to try doing it to. There’s even a bowling mark on the wall. I feel like he wanted to get himself into safe mode by getting himself severely injured right before the pizzaplex could actually open so he doesn’t accidentally hurt guests.
The reason he would have claw marks through his body would be because someone, probably Monty, was trying to perform CPR on him and was unsuccessful. They or Bonnie himself tried to contain the mess with a carpet from Monty golf and wet floor bots.
He might have went to Monty Golf first because he either wanted some help or wanted to talk to Monty about taking over performing for him permanently. Then went to Bonnie Bowl so he couldn’t harm anyone or scare kids and did what happened next. It would make sense if Monty spent time all that time on the catwalks thinking about the last things Bonnie said to him. I could see why something as serious as this would be covered up so heavily if something like this really happened. Maybe the ride’s story is partly true after all. I think at least one person from the staff did know, but they deleted or didn’t record the rest of the evidence of it.
why does it feel like i’m watching a murder documentary😂
Adding onto the tragedy. its entirely possible Monty didnt even mean or want to kill Bonnie. I wonder if the “GlitchTrap/Mimic Virus” caused him to lash out uncontrollably at Bonnie on the Catwalks
Bonnie's situation reminds me of "i have no mouth and i must scream" where a supercomputer kills all the humans, but leaves a few alive, and they get tortured, but one of those humans manages to kill them, freeing them from the supercomputer, but the computer mutates him into a slug that cannot talk, he can only watch, for the rest of eternity
I Remember seeing a theory that Freddy and Bonnie use to protect children ( like Freddy protected Gregory ) the children who weren’t able to get protected ended up taking over the wet floor bots, mainly the ones surrounding Bonnie. he failed to protect them but they could attempt to protect him. It would explain this little room that you can find that has plushies, drawings and a small cot. Almost like it was built for a child. the glamrocks are insane and probably my favorite bots thru out the whole franchise ( don’t hate me for this. I love the funtimes too )
everybody sad monty replaced bonnie, but, although I love Roxy, she replaced Foxy, R.I.P
I think Monty attacking Bonnie was a combination of his jealousy and Vanny’s control. When Monty and Bonnie were up on the catwalks Monty’s anger and jealousy combined with Vanny’s control made it so he not only attacked Bonnie but pushed him over the catwalks.