The Lies & Truth of the Daycare Attendant: A Dying Star
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2024
- Today we are looking back at the Daycare Attendant once again and taking a closer look at the Sun and Moon who we thought we knew, and the tragic truth that goes beyond some sassy one-liners and cracks about indigestion. And somewhere along the way we will find something rather shocking, and Five Nights at Freddy's might never be the same.
What do I mean? Well, let's take a look...
Music:
Lovable Clown Sit Com - Sir Cubworth
Daycare Theme (Slightly Slowed) - Security Breach
Trickling Up - Godmode
Security Breach Organ Version
Melting Time Cells - Chica in Space
Sleep No More Remix - Security Breach (Unused)
Whole Tone Limbo - Godmode
Drain Storm - Freddy in Space 2
Doomsday Carousel (Slowed) (Bare) - Help Wanted 2
0:00 The Odd One Out
1:21 Who are the Sun & Moon?
2:11 Did Moon used to be Nice?
3:09 The Sun & Moon's Secret Loft
4:59 Moon's been breaking Staff Bots
5:27 The Neglect of the Daycare Attendant
6:01 The Balloon World Minigame
7:28 Freddy's Fear of the Daycare Attendant
9:02 Moon's Wandering, Sun's Seclusion
9:58 Branding & Merchandise
11:03 The Blue Eye & Unused Glowing
11:58 It's a Little Complicated...
12:25 Sun & Moon in Security Breach!
14:46 Moon on the Hunt
15:32 The Cult Following of the Daycare
16:20 But we didn't know Sun at all... (Help Wanted 2)
17:12 Sun the Fussy Control-Freak
18:56 Two-Faced petty Gas Giant full of Hot Air
20:37 The REAL Sun
22:37 This is the Best Thing to ever happen to Sun
23:31 Sun's Secret Upgrade and Moon's Boss Battle (Cut)
27:40 The Sun is Burning Out (Why Sun is like this)
30:00 The Disturbing Truth about Moon & Vanny
34:12 Nowhere to Run (Shattered Sun & Moon)
35:47 Moon's Lack of Awareness & Autonomy
37:36 Sun's Sad Song (Sun is Always Watching)
38:59 Eclipse, the Daycare Attendant's Safe Self
41:30 Sun is STILL Watching...
42:27 Have a nice lobotomy, Sunshine!
43:19 Sun is now Fnaf's Best Character (also wtf Mimic) - เกม
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So have you ever read the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by chance?
Everyone's heard the story at least once because it's one of those old stories that entered public domain over a hundred years ago but also still plays well to a modern audience. Every major episodic media that indulges in non-sequitur episodes like holiday specials that have no baring on the main plot has done a parody of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde at least once. Good guy Dr. Jekyll invents a potion that makes him better somehow but also turns him into the evil Mr. Hyde who runs riot until he gets into trouble that can't be fixed, no matter whether Dr. Jekyll takes his potion he keeps turning into Mr. Hyde assuring he'll end up dead or in jail so he de-exists himself.
However that's not the original version, the original parallels Sun and Moon so much more.
In the original Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde both men are the same person with the same mind underneath, it's just a matter of what is expected of them. See Dr. Jekyll knows that if he acts out he'll ruin his reputation but he's a repressed victorian man who unspecified desires that are going unaddressed which being the victorian era could mean anything from seeing a womans ankles bare to derailing trains just to hear the sound people inside make. So Dr. Jekyll behaves himself but then as Mr. Hyde he can do as he pleases without getting in lasting trouble as even if arrested he'll simply wake up with his more Dr. Jekyll face again. Same man different expectations. Times goes on and Dr. Jekyll uses the face of Mr. Hyde to get into more and more trouble eventually beating up a child for being annoying which convinces him that he's gone too far and swears off using the stuff ever again. Only he barely makes it a week before he ends up deciding a little indulgence can't hurt and immediately goes on to remove someone from the face of the Earth.
At that point Dr. Jekyll tries going to sleep knowing he'll wake up with his original face... only he doesn't. Something about what he did has made the evil Mr. Hyde the new default and Dr. Jekyll the alternative face that only comes out when using his potion. The potion that runs out and can't be recreated since it only worked due to some unknown impurity that he missed in the original batch.
Sun and Moon seem to have a similar dynamic with a slight twist, they're the same person largely but with two different behavior sets meant to cover two different situations. When one is in charge the other seems to act as their subconscious double checking their work by design but unintentionally being subject to anything the leading personality can't deal with. So Sun pushes his anger and frustrations at the troublesome children under his care as well as his ill treatment into the back of his mind which turns Moon cruel or even vengeful toward kids as a result, Moon in turn takes the anxiety created by how he knows he's misbehaving and pushes it onto Sun making him intensely high strung as well as a control freak. This ends up getting them stuck in a feedback loop where they're both getting increasingly screwed up without a healthy outlet.
Additionally come Help Wanted 2 just as what happened to Dr. Jekyll in his story Sun finds himself increasingly marginalized. Going from being the dominant personality who is out most of the time to being the subpersonality as the dark Pizzaplex leaves Moon mostly in charge with Sun clinging to whatever little safe zones he can create to keep control of himself. But all that stress is only exacerbating Moons worst tendencies until he is full up leaving Sun nowhere to push his unwanted feelings and resulting in him being exceptionally catty to everyone he meets because Moons personality can't process that stuff for him anymore. Activating safe mode definitely spaced them out a little making them less aware of the reality of their situation but it seems to have also purged all those pent up negative feelings returning Sun and Moon to the much healthier state they had before.
Just an interest parallel that seemed worth typing up.
Finally, someone who knows about the original work! I know a lot of people know of the story, but a lot don't know the specifics and underlying dynamics, so thankx for explaining it for others~!
HOLY COW BRO COOKED AND DELIVERED!!! LOVED READING ALL THAT. 💜
videogames having parallels with great works and minds from human history has always been my weak spot
Loooove your well-thought comment and explanation! Very good take!
my eyes-
Quick correction. It wasnt the trampling of a child but a murder of an elderly man that made him want to stop being hyde
Sun having chronic burnout is the most realistic part of this franchise
And considering how brutal Security Breach's development cycle was, and all of the infamous burnout rampant in the gaming industry, I think the developers may even have been using this character to make a subtle statement.
As someone that takes care of small children i can relate to sun
relatable
Please dont add an animatronic in a new came called singularity.
He feels like real person way more than other animatronics
The "I should turn the lights of myself." Line is actually really funny.
Agreed
And dark. (No pun intended?)
D a r k
H u m o r
Not sure how it's funny, just dark.
I AGREE LOL
Freddy: “What could be better than serving up smiles?”
Sun: “Being dead…or anything else!”
edit: holy shit this blew up for no reason lmao
"But Sun it's good for your soul!"
"Oh hoho freddy, We have no souls."
"we just have ai's Freddy... Probobly"
🌞 “Oh, sure! Easy for you to say, Freddy! You’re the headliner! You get alllllll the hype! After all, it’s YOUR name on the building!”
I got one!!
Sun: You can never pay me enough to be brotherly towards... That guy!! *He points to either Freddy or his own head, referring to Moon*
Hah, considering what you as Cassie end up doing...
I definitely view Sun as a Squidward kinda character, burnt out, overworked, and completely done with it all, but keeps up a facade so he doesn't get "fired"
Yes, and I experienced this recently. I put on that same face so as not to get fired . . . then got fired anyway. If you haven't experienced it, you really don't know just how much damage it does, as that burnout effects you outside of work too, including your relationships.
I can relate.
which would probably mean him getting killed and replaced by a new model, given how Fazbear Entertainment treats it's puppets-I-I mean slaves-I mean staff
Technically speaking, an animatronic getting fired would be WAY worse than a normal person getting fired. A lot of things could happen to him, like being scrapped or replaced.
Call me a simp but i kinda think sun and moon are just hot
Moon-“C’mon Sun. Aren’t you TIRED of being nice? Don’t you just wanna go apeshit?!”
Sun- :(
Sun: Moon. I'm too damn tired to seriously go apeshit on anyone. If anything I just wanna take a long nap myself.
Moon: D-did you just...
He is quite literally the star of the Security Breach animatronics.
True
Well the sun is a star after all
I always felt like the reason why Sun was so brash when throwing Gregory out of the daycare was because he felt personally violated and disrespected by the kid. His warnings to keep the lights on went completely ignored, and his limits and privacy were trampled on. I can understand why he’d be pissed off at Gregory in the heat of the moment.
RIGHT??? Literally one rule, to literally prevent him having his autonomy removed by his alter ego. One rule man.
yeah and like. Gregory literally went behind the security desk which is clearly off limits
He's still doing his job, banning kids from the daycare that don't follow rules.
Was it really “ignored” though, it was completely out of Gregory control when lights turn off and he didn’t do that on purpose.
@@Nevae_696 I mean, he went into the security desk area. That's not a playing place for kids.
Honestly…. I like the Daycare Attendant muuuuch more now that he’s got personality more than just ‘happy’. I can see the progression from a happy daycare attendant to a tired adult. That line about turning off the light himself makes me think. Switching from Sun to Moon might be like giving him a break. He doesn’t have to control things, doesn’t need to watch over annoying and rowdy kids, and when it’s all over, he doesn’t have to take credit for anything that happened. He went from afraid of his other side to using it as an escape.
Oooo, a sort of duality where his programming to be overprotective leaves him not wanting to become Moon yet it still has its appeals that he wishes he could have?
Yes but in Ruin it's confirmed that the switch is very painful for both of them, so I'm not sure if switching to the Moon persona really feels like a break to him
@@sophitiaofhyrule Excruciating pain is still better than customer service on some days -
@@sophitiaofhyrule I think it's only painful when they fight over control... If the switch is willingly it must be smoother.
@@HolyAlondite That's actually very much like the original Jekyll and Hyde.
In the book, Jekyll is not the "full light" vs Hyde's "full dark". Jekyll created Hyde as an escape from his own morals and auto limitations.
It's the idea that every person is tempted by the "darkside" and everyone wants to "stop being nice" but don't do it because of our own moral and feeling of shame. Jekyll willingly switches to Hyde to be able to "experience the joy of liberation" while having someone to blame for his actions.
"I'm not bad, he is. Yet, even I can feel the catharsis. No shame, no blame. It's easier this way"
Fun fact: Sun singing his naptime song is the tune to Daisy Bell, the first song ever song by a Computer.
WHAT ACTUALLY
That's crazy
Even more Mimic connections...
WOAH! Replaying the song in my head now, I can see why it sounds so creepy 😧
now i need the lyrics to this. if anyone knows where some documented lyrics or a recording is, please give me the name/link to the video/text.
I always found the use of pronouns used by Sun and Moon kind of fascinating. Sun refers to Moon a separate “he” and also an other “me”. And Moon uses a plural pronoun as “us”(the light makes US hurt). So I wonder when Sun was trying to coax Gregory out behind the desk, was his use of ‘us’(you’ll get US in trouble). Did it mean Sun and Gregory will get in trouble? Or Sun and Moon will get in trouble?
I REALLY want to over analyze their pronouns use. Like in Techno Dragon
I always refer to Sun, Moon, and Eclipse as They/Them, but in the plural sense.
I also find it interesting how Moon refers to Sun by name, but Sun never refers to Moon by name.
@@supersmilyface1
You’re so real for that. Maybe it’s like she said, to separate or divide the Sun and Moon. Or because his Moonself is its corruption. Essentially they’re in costumes. Acts to play as or their modes/settings.
the daycare attendant is based on
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and act like this.
(if you want to find out/analyse more about dual personalities functions -
I recommend you to read or watch the movie/book first.) 👍🎉⚠️
@@lucielchoi219mystic messenger moment 😻
To be fair; Sun's attitude towards kids might be different from how he acts with employees. In Help Wanted 2 we're a Fazbear Entertainment employee. In Security Breach we're a 12 year old child. No, that doesn't excuse how overbearing and controlling he can be with both, but he comes off as the party clown who acts happy and cheerful around kids until he gets pushed too far. Around adults and employees he's more passive-aggressive, and has even less patience. Possibly taking his frustration out on the adults.
Perhaps. Though he does say "Bad kid, Bad kid!" when angry. I took it out of the video though because I had already rung out the Sun to dry, lol.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 True, and I'm not saying he's a Saint with kids. We know he isn't from how he acts to Gregory after the lights come back on. But he's definitely more willing to put up with kids than adults who act childish. Also I get the feeling that he's seen too many kids get sick from eating the arts and crafts supplies, or had too many throw things at him. The man needs a vacation. At least an assistant, or something.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476I’ve seen people mention that he might be extra salty because he’s not only working with An adult there but he’s working with an adult and being forced to act like the adults a child. Just to add my piece to it :).
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Depending on how it's said, (I haven't played it myself) that might be Sun being sarcastic/insulting, similar to how some people use "boy/girl" to refer to older people if they're annoyed/frustrated with them.
I figured Gregory was about 11 or so. But yeah, he lets the mask slip around adults and older kids because of his exasperation from dealing with kids, and yet being unappreciated by them and by Fazbear Entertainment, which neglected him and Moon.
Sun = sassy control freak
Moon = chill creepy boi
Eclipse: that one teacher we all wish we had but never got
@@kitty79erwhen the teacher is cowering and not actually teaching, or being nice
Moon is practically feral! He may speak in low tones, but I would never describe him as ‘chill.’
@@Dash123456789Brawl moon - "i invented chill!!"
(please get the reference)
@@kitty79er The only thing I retained from The Santa Clause 3 was disappointment, so I had to look it up. Regardless, that scene has pretty good meme potential!
Man those voice clips of Sun sobbing are heartbreaking. Kellen Goff is such a great voice actor
He truthfully is ! I really enjoy his voice in games
I wish that Scott and Steelwool wouldn’t veer so harshly in response to fan critique. It makes their concepts and story lines half-baked. It also makes the lore more cryptic than it needs to be because once they veer there is foreshadowing that no longer goes anywhere which is why nothing feels narratively satisfying.
Yeah :(
As much as I like the direction some of the characters development has gone, some of it can kind of feel forced, like Roxy.
I also feel like if they were gonna make Sun have a more complex personality, then they should’ve done it in the beginning. Also wish they wouldn’t add in a random twist every game now >:P and the whole “Bonnie dude is Cassie’s dad” theory was technically stolen by the fans, and as cool as that would be if it were a shout-out or homage, it most likely was Steelwool just being like “crap, we need a twist for our games!! Oh wow, the fans seem to know fnaf better than we do!!! It’d be a shame if we stole one of their theories instead of actually surprising them… YOINK!!”
Honestly yeah however they kinda had to figure out a replacement story after matpat accidentally figured out the original story they even questioned if he has a guy on the inside
@@levievil9220 They didn't have to, actually. I've seen posts about it online actually since apparently, it's a common thing among writers to see fans guessing the plot and be like "Crap! They've figured it out, and now I gotta swing wildly in some other direction to surprise them!" when fans figuring stuff out actually just means you foreshadowed well. At the very least, changing the whole story just because of that doesn't really do anybody any good... /nm
@@catbatrat1760 yeah however maybe it threw them in for a loop and accidentally got them into that pitfall trap they at least got their cards in order afterwards though
@@levievil9220which part did mat figure out this time
Sun thanking Cassy feels so much different with this context. Now instead of him thanking her because he is kind hearted, he is thanking her because it's an end to his pain. It's not a heroic sacrifice, it's a desired euthanasia. I like to think he was always both sides, but the corruption made the two sides seem separate. Great video.
I don’t know why I didn’t realize sooner, but these two are literally Jekyll and Hyde. They begin as two versions of the same thing but become more distinct as time goes on. When Moon starts doing terrible things Sun desperately tries to keep him under control, but it doesn’t work anymore. I know people have compared them to Jekyll and Hyde before, but it didn’t hit me until now how apt of a comparison it is.
Not completely as apt most people think. If I remember correctly Jekyll was intentionally releasing Hyde but it is still pretty apt ignoring the reasons why the other personality was created for each.
@@ThefifthBishopofGordSun does have his "I should turn the lights off myself" line.
@@randomindividual948 Eh, the creation of Hyde in Jekyll’s part was likely to be more intentional than Sun and Moon since he had created the source himself but not completely intentionally as one of the components was a not perfect causing it not be replicatable by them at the end of story since the error caused substance that was unknown at time to Jekyll to be added causing. Anyways since Jekyll was taking drugs he was creating it could be mostly intentionally created since he did make a batch that lasted days before being used up.
@@ThefifthBishopofGord At first, yeah. Then it turned out that Jekyll was having episodes of Hyde while asleep, so it wasn't under his control anymore.
@@MissRandomNomad0ono, he was turning into hyde’s form while he slept, everything hyde ever did jekyll was consciously aware of
I have a feeling Sun and Moon have always been somewhat separate ais because the merch shows a lot of differences but the virus ultimately ruined Moon beyond fixing and left Sun to care on his own. The two are definitely one character but are distinct enough that they were possibly two in the beginning. It would explain why Eclipse becomes seemingly a third ai. He was always there just unable to form because Sun and Moon had split too far from each other.
This is my interpretation too, it makes more sense to me that there were always two (or three) and then some sort of corruption happened. That would explain the merch like you mentioned, and also why Cassie has good memories of both of them.
In the books it's mentioned Sun/Moon was originally made for putting on plays, with Moon being Sun's "evil alter ego." Then when the daycare was made, rather than build a new animatronic the company just made some adjustments to Sun/Moon's programming and put them in charge.
@@katarinacarrico7887 yes I know. But the books are seemingly soft canon or something not entirely canon.
@@ScarlettKatty personally I thought sun and moon split was because 2 animatronics gives more money and eclipse not being good for merchandise and be split in the early in development because of how expensive they are to make they didn't just scrap it but they didn't completely get rid of eclipse
(8:44)
Menacing Moon: My arms may but sticks, but they have the strength to lift twenty animatronics at once.
Glamorous RockHead Freddy: Goodness gracious, Gregory we must run!
🤣
🦾🤖🌜🦾
Daycare attendant will always be my favorite. he’s so sassy
🌞 “If I’d have been programmed with the knowledge to fix it, it would have already have been done!”
He's so tired of fazbear's staff😂
The thought of sun being unable to "sleep" never crossed my mind until you pointed it out, works night and day without stoping dealing with children, no wonder he has gone a bit crazy
I love that Sun got himself a real personality because the fake one was disturbing. I remember saying out loud "NOPE" when he first dove into the ballpit in Security Breach and that was a common reaction from many players so HW2 letting us see The Real Him was refreshing, especially since he was likely interacting with an adult (Cassie's dad...)instead of a child. When dealing with kids, he puts on a Happy Face (TM) so he doesn't upset them (and get complaints to the staff) but with adults? He can be himself. Also, Moon not being The Booty Warrior until things started getting all Afton-y is a nice touch because looking back, there's no way Moon would've been able to get away with his behavior for long without being disciplined (Freddy vs. Vanessa) and reprogrammed to be more cooperative. And as Squidward like Sun is, he still cares about the kids' safety which was why Sun was so scared of Changing post Glitchtrap arrival because he KNEW something was wrong. He KNEW he needed help but was abandoned, leading to his sadness in Ruin and Part 2 of Arts and Crafts. HW2 happened mainly when there was still hope of him being Helped and repaired so he could become Eclipse so he maintained his authentic Sass with coping mechanisms. Realizing that he was left behind to suffer forever led to him melting down openly instead in private like he would've when things were normal/first got Afton-y. Sun is just as horrified at The Booty Warrior as we are and doesn't want him to be in control. Eclipse is Safe Mode Freddy/the original reprogrammed bot that was moved from the theater to the daycare. Eclipse was programmed in to make him more cooperative and sweet, which Sun didn't mind because being Eclipse means that he's happy where he is and that The Booty Warrior Moon is firmly under wraps. Compared to being forever frustrated from a demotion or being a complete psycho, Eclipse is a perfect solution. But as usual, all of this essay is just me being a good Theorist, LMAO. I hope Steel Wool doesn't listen to the vocal minority of feedback of saying the Daycare Attendant got too much attention and walk back everything because that would be a shame. We'll see after Into the Pit, I guess.
Sun to me seems aware of the missing children phenomenon. So when dealing with adults, having them wonder off is like letting a lion out of his cage.
@@justice8718 And if we’re going off the Game Theorists Daycare Attendant Timeline (Henry/William’s 1st creation) then yeah, they probably would’ve known.
@@DewIsAGorilla Perhaps Sun and Moon have a piece of Afton in them, so they are angry with the glitch trap copy.
The fact that glitch trap hands you the dolls to destroy it implies that William Afton might be trying to destroy it from the inside.
Booty warrior? Lmfaooo
Booty warrior Moon 💀💀
The saddest part of Sun & Moon really is that Vanny/Vanessa knew they were there and left them behind after everything she'd done to them. Sure, she couldn't do much I imagine, but she still caused something like their downfall. It shows some kind of parallel between her and Gregory. Gregory destroyed all those animatronics (sure, trying to keep himself safe but some things were a bit far) and just left them like that to escape. Vanessa basically destroyed the sun and moon and just left them behind so she could escape.
This sounds even worse with the theory that Greg and Vanessa returned to the ruined pizzaplex at some point to seal the mimic (hence why there is lights in some places underground and Gregory's backpack). So they went there, saw everyone broken/suffering and have done nothing. When they are already not under mimic/glitchtrap control.
Thanks, man. I was just getting around that maybe I was treating Gregory a bit too harshly. Now I despise him even more.
@@NocturnalLaVenge
Worse thing is that, isn’t Freddy also with them? I mean c’mon guys
@@SSMp315they may not have let him go inside, or he's in a full safe mode and not fully registering everything.
When you got to the bit about Sun being burnt out and Moon wanting Sun to not come out anymore by the time of Ruin, my heart really started breaking for him, because I'm sure past a certain point, having to be Sun, the responsible one, is just too EXHAUSTING anymore. I feel like part of Moon going "no more Sun" is some tormented, tired part of him SCREAMING for a break, relishing in the excuse to shut off all the child-safe programming and just let himself go wild for a bit. It's the desperate cries of an overworked minimum-wage employee seconds from going berserk supervillain mode on their boss after their first approved vacation day in two years just got cancelled so someone higher up the ladder could take off instead. When the burnout is so intense, it DOES hurt physically to try and force yourself to keep working, so Moon being hurt by the light in Ruin is very understandable and absolutely miserable.
Sun is a theater kid forced to work retail, with little patience for children and zero patience for adults.
Real
Sun reminds me of the employee in the mascot suit that is actually depressed and smokes cigarettes in the alley💀
I feel called out, except I drink hard liquor from a flask instead of smoke. 😉
41:34 When Sun says "Thank... you.." I don't think it's because he's still watching, I think it's because he's dead. Well not dead but his data or memory has been wiped and deleted, and that was his last final words. Notice his tone he sounds quiet, weak and a bit happy as if he's thankful that he's dying. Which is quite sad, when he begs Cassie to reboot him which is a hard reboot. He knows it's a hard reboot, he knows it will wipe his data and memory basically killing him and that's why he begs for Cassie to do so, he wants Cassie to put him out of his own misery and suffering. Which is so sad because in Cassie's eyes she's helping him but in reality she's killing him. And his last words was "Thank... you.." he's happy and thankful that Cassie killed him, and now he's at peace.
Good lord that is so tragic..
Damn bro that’s deep
Thanks to Sun, every time I go through airport security, all I can hear in my head is "SECURITY ALERT! SECURITY ALERT! WEEOOWEEOOWEEOO!"
A little off topic but the "Happy Birthday" line of Eclipse always bothered me. Hear me out, I know the most plausible interpretation is that it is just a prerecored line stored in his database that he's randomly saying upon activation.
BUT
What if, he actually recognized Cassie ? I mean, she did spent a lot of time in the Daycare. In a time where the DA were friendly and (presumably) happy with their job. So, if Eclipse is an "old save" of the "original" DA. The one that was actually taking care of her when she was little, he could have recognized her and knew it was her birthday.
I mean, Sun didn't even let Gregory WANDER in the playgrounds but trusts Cassie enough to ask her to litterally stop Moon and reboot them, I just find it odd.
But yes, Roxy notes Cassie's Birthday is in the 11th (implying we're not in the 11th but still a close-enough date she could have booked up her party), and Sun refers to her as a "new" friend, so it doesn't really add up, I guess...
It very well could be! Well, I mean, that would make more sense than a random reference to Frosty the Snowman. XD
Me both before and after the video: "Ah, yes, my comfort character(s)."
I’m really glad you can still see them as comfort characters! :D
Most other people I’ve seen were absolutely miserable at Sun’s personality change/development, probably because they saw him more as support, and that support is suddenly being taken away
You’re lucky! 😁👍
REAL
I think Moon tearing down the fort Sun made in HW2 absolutely tracks. Me and my friends theorize that the little "hideyhole" where you play BBworld is actually Moon's room, and Moon's safe space. But you see by the time of Security Breach, colored electrical lights are all running through the room, which we think Sun installed to keep Moon at bay. Moon, even if he's not in his right mind, sees this as Sun encroaching on his dark safe space, and in retaliation breaks the arcade machine, and dismantles Sun fort. Sun isn't allowing Moon to have a safe space and Moon feels entrapped by Sun.
It's worth noting how Moon's mechanic works. When Gregory Blinks. (something that doesn't happen in any other part of the game) Moon will take that as an invitation and rush toward you immediately to jump you (probably to put you to sleep) Most of the time he just dances in place rather then actively pursue you during the hourly recharge. You just need to be not looking at him most of the time. He's kinda like a weeping angel in that way. So I think the dreamy affects around the sides of your vision are Moon trying to hypnotize you
Yeah! In the books, Moon’s sparkling purple lights literally CHANGE YOUR PERCEPTION OF REALITY. Sort of like a Vanny Mask but without the “mask” bit.
I'm really happy that Sun isn't just a happy goofball. him being rude and childishly nervous IS MUCH better
sun just like me frfr
So, I took a part out of the video where I addressed the whole 'Sun acts this way only with adults' thing. So, in Help Wanted 2, he does yell, "Bad Kid, Bad Kid!" at you and drags you off to time out. So... Yeah, should've left that in, apparently.
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I think it's fair to assume Sun sees himself as the only capable adult in the room regardless of who is in the Daycare. Help Wanted 2 made it very clear!
Not to bother you but I'm waiting for monty pls I like the way you explain for example how Roxy's sen e in hearing is tightened due to her eyes being ya know gone
Wut?
I don't think he was exactly speaking with a child, it seems more likely he was talking with an adult since the Help Wanted 2 description states you are the last worker. So like maybe he was supposed to pretend or roleplay like you were a child, kinda like a beta testing thing. He has kids drawings scattered all over the daycare, so why would he shred the ones we make?
"Being Squidward is the greatest thing to happen to Sun"
Finally someone put my HW2 feels into adequate words.
Truly the best addition to the fnaf franchise such a great concept for an animatronic to be two faced literally. Then to only have the best withered look of the new animatronics. It still was very strange how the coding of sun and moon were combating each other when the glitchtrap virus wasn’t in the system anymore in ruin.
Honestly, i think sun and moon had an understanding between each other, especially because i do think, and this goes for all the glamrocks, if roxy and freddy can have favorites in cassie and Gregory respectively, that as long as the kids were safe and content they can deal with their situation as best they can but after everything that happens in the games, they both probably started fighting for control alot more frequently til we see how they end up in ruin.
it stopped causing issues, but the issues that were there weren't fixed. At the end of the war, the village is still in ruins.
Once I realized that Sun and Moon are really the same personality, it dawned on me that he’s basically FNaF’s version of Two-Face: a guy who wants to do good but struggled with some internal conflicts, which leads to this much more violent and unpredictable side popping up as a response to trauma.
"Sun _is_ Moon"
Wait, you mean to tell me that the community is just NOW coming to this conclusion?!
Yeah, blame SAMS for that one.
but at least the lies arent about... freddy fazbear
Because if they were about F-Freddy five bear then he would bring his friends bunny the bonnie bun, chica the kitchen, and foxy the pirate foxy hrrr, would
I do love how genuinly depressing the daycare attendant is but man they really poorly displayed how this unfolds going through. Development hell really just ruined the characterisation of these guys and sun was the only redeemed one
It makes you wonder what true connections Vanessa and The Daycare Attendant truly have.
Ngl, those 2 are way too similar for them not to actually be friends, or at least for Vanessa to think them as their favorite. Literally Moon is Vanny's right hand man/proxy.
@nessie78. SORRY I DELETED MY ORIGINAL COMMENT
The difference between this video and the earlier Sun and Moon analysis video is very interesting! The older video was more "why people feel like Sun and Moon heal their inner child :D", and this one is "Sun deep, Sun complex, Sun ✨S P I C Y✨ >:)"
I love Squidward Sun so much, especially with how it makes Sun possibly the most complicated character in FNaF history
I just wish that my inner child wasn’t such a big part of me :’)
Recently the fandom has been quite unhappy with HW2 destroying their wholesome Sun headcanons but I was so happy that they showed how geniuenly unhinged he is.
The daycare attendant should get his own spin off game.
Sun and Mangle have two things in common. They both spend their time around little kids and they're both broken as a result. The difference is that Mangle is physically broken while Sun is mentally broken.
Sun is the guy who’s job is to wear a mascot costume, all fun and smiles until it’s his smoke break
I can relate, except I drink whiskey or gin from a flask, rather than smoke.
Damn
"He's a gigant gaslighter full of hot air"
_GET ROASTED, YOOOOO_
Help wanted 2 just makes him sound like he really HATES having to be in charge of kids, like DAMN
Sun being happy that Eclipse is now in control feels a lot like someone just being glad to be put out of their misery and not having to continue going through the pain anymore.
The daycare attendant is such a cool character and I love how the newer material has expanded upon him. I’m actually trying to take inspiration from him myself for some FNaF fan projects including other characters. Trying to take minor moments and flesh them out is one of my favorite parts of writing
my main theory is sun's behavior in Help wanted 2 is him lashing out at the staff but in such a way where he won't get punished or be thrown into the repair station to get scrap while he is working hard to not take it out on the kids due to them being technically innocent due to them being unaware of the going on behind close doors. Gregory just happen to break the rules and cause an accidental blackout at the possibly worst time and he finally just snaped deciding "i'm done! I hate this job I don't get treated well and this is my breaking point"
Sun is a like a cartoon character ripped from his cartoon and forced to live in a stressful real world adult life.
Though oddly enough, it feels like Sun is the animatronic that is most ‘aware’.
The way Eclipse works, and how different the animatronic personalities are from their promotional art to their actual selves (i.e. Monty seeming more chill than aggressive) makes me think Safe Mode is actually how all of the animatronics are intended to act; family-friendly, totally loyal to Fazbear, and (importantly) blissfully unaware of their long-term circumstances as always-on slaves, but overtime (notably not at the start, as they seemed to be mostly positive during the early years of the Pizzaplex, judging from Cassie) their AIs have gained a memory and the constant days of work drastically changed them.
As the host of a DID system, I have always viewed the Daycare Attendant as being very similar to a DID system as well. I bring this up a lot in conversations about FNAF seeing as it's a new angle that not many people consider. I believe that Sun, Moon, and Eclipse are different alters in what I am calling the Daycare System. While I initially thought Eclipse in RUIN to be an integration/fusion of Sun and Moon, that final "thank you" from Sun leads me to believe that our rebooting them actually brought Eclipse out of dormancy, which would explain their seemingly delusional belief that there will be kids in the daycare again. An alter coming out of dormancy can be very disorienting, as time has gone by without them, and there is usually a lot of confusion as the alter has to grapple with what is basically time travel, for lack of a better description. I am very passionate about this headcanon of mine, and I do have an essay in the works about it where I go way more in depth and really pick all the details apart that would support it.
This comment is super fun to read because my partner is a system and sun and moon were a subsystem with them for a while!
But yeah, Sun and moon do feel very DID, like they were once used to functional switching and multiplicity, but without Eclipse, they kind of just started falter, add the virus on moon and you can really see why Sun is so stressed. He’s used to sharing the load, but now he’s saddled with everything-including keeping what was once his working partner at bay.
AS SOMEONE WHOS IN A SYSTEM ME TOO!!!! The daycare attendants are one of my comfort characters and im so happy someone else noticed this because ive ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS EEEEEEEEEEEE
This is an incredible interpretation to have on sun and moon's character, and i appreciate the vulnerability with sharing this perspective
As a system myself, Sun and Moon always gave me that system vibe which immediately drew me to them! With Sun being a more complex character with HW2, I relate even harder than I did before.
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I have my own interpretation of the trio, after the effects of the glitchtrap virus were removed, sun was back to happy go lucky but a tiny bit anxious, moons still a gremlin but he’s mischievous instead of dangerous, and eclipse is caring but shy, and I think this makes them an adorable little family( I also give them separate bodies but that’s just me ) 😁
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I always greatly enjoyed how Gregory was immediatly pissed off by Sun & Moon. 😅
(6:40) Flappy Bird was hard for me. I can’t imagine playing this.
Surprisingly, it's quite a bit easier than Flappy Bird!
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Oh neato!
I really liked the Daycare Attendant before, but I just love them now.
I do think Moon wasn’t always evil. I also think Sun genuinely likes children, but he is burnt out. Honestly, I wasn’t always a big fan of FNAF, but seeing the Daycare Attendant *MADE* me a fan, wanting to understand their lore and how they fit in to the world made me want to get into the games.
I know they aren’t a huge part, but to me they’re the most interesting part. Maybe I’m lame, or I just identify with them a little too much. I just can’t help but love every part of them, Sun and Moon.
He hates children and loves them at the same time lol
Nah, you ain't lame for loving them - he's become even more my favorite
I will say that in Help Wanted 2 we play as an adult so I don't believe that Sun is exactly like this for the children. But I do believe he might be strained behind the scene with kids. Sass master.
I love deep dives on this character. I love this character. I wrote a 470K word fanfic about this character. I can't get enough of him. I really liked your thoughts on a potential cut boss battle, that made so much sense and is an idea I haven't seen anywhere else! Thank you for making a video on these guys :)
Here are some of my thoughts about the subjects of this video, in no particular order:
Sassy Sun fanfics pre-HW2 are rare, but did exist. To me, they always felt like the closest to canon, even before we had sassy Sun confirmed. You're right that the signs were always there. He's stressed and anxious and frustrated, overbearing, ten seconds away from falling apart even in Security Breach. That being said, I wrote him as sweet in my own fanfic just because... I wanted to! haha. I think a lot of writers aren't writing Sun and Moon differently from canon because they misinterpreted it, they're writing the two that way just because they can. I read every DCA fic I can get my hands on (anyone reading this if you write a DCA fic please send me a link immediately, I will devour it) and everyone writes Sun and Moon differently. I think that's more because it's fun than anything else.
I don't think Sun is always as snippy as he is in HW2. I think that's always there as an undercurrent, but I don't think he's always like that around the kids. My interpretation is that he's being mask off about his frustrations because he's in an arts and crafts test with a worker. Yes he says "bad kid", but I don't think he literally means "you are a misbehaving child." I think he's saying "You are doing a terrible job at taking the role of a kid at this simple task" or maybe "You are taking the role of a kid in this test, and you're acting like a bad one." Notice how the desk the player is at has a built-in shredder right there, and Sun immediately shreds art even after complimenting it. I know the pizzaplex isn't exactly big on safety, but there is NO WAY they built a shredding desk for daycare kids to sit at. What we're seeing is most likely a test of Sun's arts and crafts functions being performed by a worker, and that means Sun isn't putting on his happy persona like he tries to do for Gregory in SB.
Though Sun is frustrated and stressed and burned out, it's clear he genuinely likes things like arts and crafts. He sings a sad song about missing that in Ruin, he seems genuinely happy when you select the googley eyes in HW2, and in the mask off minigame he assumes that arts and crafts is something so appealing that risking your safety for it is something that makes sense to him. I think he really does enjoy what he does, he's just- well, you put it best- burned out! He hasn't been treated right and he has grown frustrated with something he loved.
I don't think Sun and Moon are one person. I don't think they're two people, either. I think they're intertwined, overlapping, never quite apart not quite together. They refer to each other both by name and as the other me. They are aware the other might act in a way they wouldn't. Sun threatens to turn the lights out like a mother threatening a kid with "wait until your father gets home." They use both "I" and "we." They are two halves of the same whole, working independently and together at the same time. Eclipse isn't a reset, he's whole again (even if he's a bit of an airhead, and maybe not seeing the situation for what it is because of safe mode activating.) Sun and Moon exist within him, because they are him. Sun is both working as half of Eclipse and able to thank Cassie personally. Or that's my interpretation, at least. I really don't think they'd intentionally write Eclipse as a secretly depressing personality wipe or mind jail when Eclipse was meant to be a sort of bonus thank you for the love the game got from the DCA fandom. If I recall correctly, the voice actor described Eclipse as the two born anew (thus "happy birthday"), not reset.
I hope we do get to see more Moon. Control or corruption or aggression, whatever is going on I agree that something is up with Moon in SB. But in the HW2 secret ending, there's no more red in his eyes. Vanny has Moon retrieve the last vestige of glitchtrap for her, and she crushes it. I don't think Moon is being controlled anymore, he's voluntarily helping out. Though I doubt the story will go this way, it would be amazing if we could see a good Vanny and a good Moon either fighting back against various evil forces or even just enjoying being free from control.
Sorry this comment got so long! Probably should have expected that after the "470K word fanfic" part hahaha
Oh! I was scrapping my brain of all the DCA fanfics that I've read that are that long, and now I realized you're the author of "I see you, Sundrop!" !!
Just wanna say I loved the book and it inspires me to continue/improve upon my own long fanfics. ^--^
I hope you have a good day/night!
@@fuegogatto Yoooo! You read my fic? Ahhh, that makes me so happy!! Thank you so much for reading, I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed! If you have a DCA fic of your own please feed it to me pretty please
@@ShiraCheshire Ofc! It inspired me to make an animatic about it, and at the time I was very unsure whether I should even pursue animating, but low and behold now I am at a spot where I am quite comfortable with animating on a semi regular basis because of that animatic! (still need to finish it tho, and I would love to show you it if I get around to finishing it! If you do want to see it anyhow)
Sadly I don't post my fanfics, though my friend is telling me I really should get my work out there, so I am very much considering! >:D
Yesss shira with the best takes
I do love how there truly is so much complexity to these characters people can have fun with different interpretations
@@ohnothesun23 YOU. HI!! SMALL WORLD! :)
I actually made a moon pin that I could stick on my t shirt once just because I loved the design so much, I actually still have it to this very day.
I have a theory about eclipse! what if we didn’t actually reboot the daycare attendant as a whole, we just rebooted moon
his voice is slightly deeper than sun’s, just like moon’s, and he is present when the lights are off. sun still being conscious is also interesting to me- if we can hear sun saying thank you, shouldn’t we also be able to hear moon screaming and upset?
eclipse’s calmer voice seems much more inclined to lulling kids to sleep than excitedly playing with them, too- I suspect that eclipse is actually just how moon was intended to function instead of being a 3rd party
Okay, someone actually said it. I've been thinking this for awhile now! Sun and Moon are still separate AIs (as we can see by Sun speaking to us separately) and always were meant to be separate, but the Glitchtrap virus ruined Moon, causing him to become murderous, which stressed out Sun, who had to keep Moon under control. But after the reboot, whatever issues Moon had were resolved and now they've fused together as the Safe Mode protocol, which is Eclipse. They are both able to be in control of Eclipse, and both able to speak in this persona (as we hear Sun's voice and quite possibly Moon's "fixed" voice as well). Fusing like this is most likely something they've always been able to do before the glitchtrap virus, and was meant to be a temporary thing for emergency use, like escorting a child out of the daycare. I believe if their physical body was fixed, Sun and Moon would be able to function separately, as Sun or Moon, respetively. And they probably work perfectly again, since Moon would likely no longer be under control of the virus, and Sun as a result would be happier as well, since he isn't having to lose sleep over trying to contain his murderous alt. We'd have the happy, sunny Sun, and the nice, calm Moon. And in the situations it's needed, they could go into safe mode and be "Eclipse".
I wasn't expecting to hear "Sun is a more compelling character now that he's a burnt-out retail worker" today, but I can't say I disagree...
My theory is that Sun was originally the bubbly, friendly bot we saw in Security Breach but gradually grew tired of his job and became snarky. His friendly personality being reduced to nothing but an act. Which is rather ironic considering the Daycare Attendant was pulled out of the Fazbear Theatre to be just that, a Daycare Attendant. Also the comedy and tragedy motif with Sun and Moon is a nice touch.
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Happy Sun, Grimacing Moon, Grimacing Moon, Grimace Shake, and Grimacing Eclipse!
now i need to see your interpretation of the possibly cut Daycare Attendant fight. i mean, you can't lead us on with such a fun concept and not think of anyone asking for you to go into deeper conception of it. of course, i don't expect it, if ever, to come soon, it'd be awesome
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Sassy Sun: My intsruction were very CLEAR, it STINKS! Ugh, I feel dumber just looking at it.
Me: *raises hand towards and points my finger at him*…your mean.
This makes Safe Mode seem like a creepy numbing thing, making animatronics docile, instead of a good thing, keeping Glitchtrap at bay. It even explains why Freddy requires additional energy to stay in Safe Mode, instead of the other way. His base state is the aggressive one.
Sooo basically, sun is actually super realistic and is kinda narcissistic.. COOL! THAT JUST MAKES ME LIKE HIS CHARACTER MORE BECAUSE I FIND IT HILARIOUS 💀💀💀
I honestly, genuinely didn't see much difference in his personality. Idk, I always got the same vibes from sb Sun as I did from Help Wanted. He's at the end of his tether, chronically anxious, and I don't think I ever saw him as... Happy?? I think the context we meet him in is VERY important too. We're not a kid in HW2. We're an employee, a human that works for the place that has left him living in a crappy tiny loft room, and never fricken cleaned. I could literally say so much about how FFE treats its ALIVE, AWARE robots, I'm surprised he hasn't started twisting heads
I find it weird how calm Moon is compared to Sun. Like sure, he gets frustrated and angry when he needs to stop chasing Gregory to clean up some barrels or when he fights for control with Sun (and also with lights, but that literally hurts him), but these things are reasonable things to get upset about. Unlike Sun, most of the time when there’s a minor inconvenience he seems to just laugh it off, like in the foxy game in HW2 where when you close one of the panels in front of him, he doesn’t yell or anything, he just moves into another area to try and get you.
I love moon and eclipse, also if you want more evidence of endo fighting moon just look outside the day care after you get there, there a series of broken glamrock endos leading to the daycare
I'm actually really glad this is the direction they went- we had hints Sunny was burnt out and hurting from being isolated in base SB but Ruin and Help Wanted 2 set it all in stone. He, just like the other Glamrocks, is slowly going insane from staying in character with no breaks. It's just that the glamrocks have each other to lean on and Sunny has... no one.
as someone who is on a current daycare attendant hyperfixation this is a super cool video
its especially funny that a lot of the fanfics ive read have the DCA as "having the best battery in the pizzaplex"
Loved the video overall, especially the deep-dive into Vanny and Moon's possible (or rather, almost certain) connections. Though I was a bit surprised by how you didn't bring up their origins in Tales From the Pizzaplex. While they don't really directly contradict anything in the video, it's still really interesting and I'm surprised to not see it in an otherwise very thorough video. I do think it enchances the understand of Moon especially though, as it could offer insight as to why Vanny went "yeah, that one!" instead of using easy brute force like Monty as her "puppet".
"The Sun robot was an old stage animatronic. Part of its theatrical schtick was to turn evil when the stage lights went off. When it was reprogrammed to be the day care attendant, the performance functions were taken out, but the darkness trigger couldn’t be removed. That, combined with the occasional blackouts in the day care, created the Moon side of the attendant, which results in several undesirable behaviors. Apparently, they had meetings about what to do, and they decided that fixing Sun was more trouble than it was worth. It’s cheaper to just make sure the lights stay on." - Bobbiedots, Part 1
I don't buy sexy robot book's explanation. Both because Ruin discredits it, because it accidentally refers to Glamrock Chica as yellow and says Foxy is there, and because, like, Fazbear Entertainment straight up lies about their animatronics all the time. What's more believable- Fazbear Entertainment rounded up a dozen highly advanced theater robots and stuck them in daycares with the exact same generator issue 'because', or they just lied?
Also, the books make me unreasonably salty, lol.
I know I’m not the target of this comment, nor is this really a response, but I’ve read a few of the books past the original set.. havn’t read this one but if this is an actual take out from the book this makes me more uncomfortable with the general feeling that… a lot of the books feel straight up co-written by AI. If it’s paraphrasing then this can be ignored but… it just brought it back into my mind after a while of repressing any and all thoughts of the books existing.
Sun the gaslighter 💀
19:22 i always assumed that sun was more of an asshole in help wanted because we play as an “adult” (an adult robot, but an adult nonetheless). he keeps other kids’ drawings and such in the daycare doesn’t he? or is my memory foggy lol i honestly don’t remember the full layout of that place
but yeah he definitely /does/ let his pettiness and theatrics loose after shoving gregory out of the daycare lmfao
although i guess he could just be keeping those drawings up because he wants to pretend he’s a lil sweet silly guy, playing 4d chess while we’re playing checkers
I'm thinking the drawings he kept were from the days he was fine with his role. Back when Cassie was a toddler and she loved her time with him and he probably loved the children too. The frustration may have made he more... Cold-hearted toward thoses... "Simpler joys"
@@ratboygirl He DOES keep the drawings up, though I don’t think there are any ulterior motives, as he keeps the kids’ drawings up in his lil room as well!
Describing eclipse as a lobotomized sun/moon is one of the foulest things I’ve ever heard but it’s weirdly accurate the more you think about it 😭😭
Oh man I love the daycare attendant ❤
I remember seeing a post on Tumblr where someone theorized how since Help Wanted 2 is basically an in-game universe training simulator, that the personalities that Sun and Moon have are not their actual personalities. Basically the theory states that Fazbear Entertainment imagined these personalities and then put them in the training simulator. That and also we play as most likely an adult who works for Fazbear Entertainment. It would make sense to Sun to shred our work because we're an adult, we shouldn't care. This is all just for training. And while yes, Sun did kick Gregory out of the daycare and not check on him, he never explicitly threatened turn off the lights himself and try to get Moon to catch him like he did in Help Wanted 2. If anything he seems afraid of the Moon. In fact, that's what the entire daycare section was about. Sun can be sassy with the workers, but he won't really lash out on the kids.
I’ve heard that theory before as well, not just on Tumblr as I am no longer on that site.
22:38 As a Sun fan since the release of the game*, I've never agreed with something more in my life.
*sb
14:31 is that sun replacing the Freddy model? 😂
Yes it is! XD I had a patch to replace Freddy with Sun. Getting inside of him was the most bizarre experience.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 "Getting inside of him" 🤨
None the least of all for him I'm sure...@notrealnamenotatall2476
@@coreynugget6646 I was just gonna stay quiet about that 😂
Daycare attendant was supposed to be a family of seasons or cards I can’t remember
35:11 and 37:58 God, those voice lines with sun give me so many chills. Bravo to the voice actor (It's Kellen Goff, same as funtime and glamrock freddy, right? His voice work is incredible)
And Eclipse's nonchalance and ignorance are also portrayed perfectly
Very interesting analysis! Didn't really realize fully a lot of the things you touched on, such as how much of a control freak Sun is and how retroactively his actions in SB were a lot more concerning.
It's incredible how they managed to turn this secondary character into someone more fleshed out and vital to the plot than Freddy and Roxy, only to never give Monty a real character.
44:22 So after we leave the Daycare Attendant in his Eclipse form, he doesn't actually clean up. He goes down into the sinkhole, sneakily so that we can't see him, goes to were we find the Mimic, seals the opening behind him with concrete and steel, becomes the Mimic and then continues his Grimic thing to get us to free him out of the prison he build for himself so that he can kill Cassie. The MXES does nothing to keep him captive and he doesn't even want to leave the pizzaplex, he just wants to play mind games with whoever stumbles into the pizzaplex and then kill them when he gets board of them. Where did the walking talking learning algorithm learn this? He didn't, he was always capable to do that.
Except that non of what I just said after the timestamp is true and that I made it all up.
While chica is my favorite, sun is a cool character
I love this!!! It makes so much sense. I've been a DCA Tumblr theorist for a while now, but could never reach a solid conclusion like this.
I'm actually pretty glad you didn't really use the books as proof in this video. Whilst they were undoubtedly Fazbear actors at some point, the way the book contradicts the games is frustrating, with them being transferred post glitch-Moon, generators already there, yet Ruin reveals Cassie had napped and played with Sun/non dangerous Moon IN THE DAYCARE. But they've ALWAYS been glitched in the Daycare in the books.
Maybe Moon's murderous tendencies only kick in after hours when there's on one kid, similar to the SL animatronics - which might be why he never attacks in the books, and only SCARED a kid in SB. Perhaps Cassie, a kid used to animatronics , wasn't scared by non dangerous glitched Moon and so he really did just follow normal nap protocol then. Maybe we'll find out more in the future.
To be fair, it's probably more so a lack of clear communication between the writers and game Devs, and they probably didn't even realise they would add that contradiction in Ruin, but as far as we're aware the games are to be taken as canon OVER the books if something doesn't add up.
Maybe it was a miscommunication, or maybe Fazbear really did lie to their employees about Sun and Moon, but either way, I love how you've picked at even unused content and tied it all together so perfectly. Good job!
Thank you so very much! 8D
And I agree. I've seen a few inconsistencies with the books so, when in doubt, I just stick to the games for the lore. XD
The fact that in this series. No employees or management seems to want to take care of these, GIANT, intelligent, and very strong robots. Blows my mind!
How is not one of them nice to them, because they're scared shitless of angering things that could kill them in a second.
( really. The animatronics are huge! The would be enough for me.)
I am SO in love with the Daycare Attendant to the point when it's not funny anymore
After hearing your thoughts on moon’s original personality; I don’t think Eclipse is a new personality but instead a reset of moon’s character removing all unintended coding (like a virus) and giving back his original personality
God I love the real sun, he is so funny and relatable. His lines in help wanted 2 is so funny, my favorite is the "you're SO banned" one. Edit: hearing about sun's burning out makes me love him even more, and if this is correct, I really wish we could've saw this in game.
Sun feels like a failed artiste who could only get as close as being an elementary school art teacher to actually having an art career. He seems extremely critical and resentful of the people at the arts and crafts section, and his (we are trying to make art!) reminds me a lot of self important artists, or like Sander Cohen from bioshock.
Im curious if the personality has something to do with the creator who made him. at least if its true that hes maybe an older creation, possibly of william or henry. but it doesnt quite mean much if he truly is brand new...
I think the Safe Mode uses some of the data from the last time it was activated (especially with Sun and Moon) to formulate a personality so the party receiving help from them, most likely a child, wouldn't be frightened or scared when Safe Mode Eclipse is trying to help them. Not to mention the last time Roxy saw Cassie was around her birthday (Not saying Safe mode was activated on Cassie's birthday but it's interesting that when Cassie and Roxy see each other Roxy asks about a party for Cassie.) That's why i think that Eclipse is unaware of the things around them because their data and personality is based on when they were activated when the daycare was still functioning properly. (This event could probably be a child climbing where they shouldn't be, due to the calm voice Eclipse has and the short explanation that Cassie shouldn't be up where she was and the immediate want to place her safely on the ground.) Eclipse may not be emotionally or really situationally aware, but he does a much better job of taking care of the children (or at least from what we've been shown of him.) than both current Sun and Moon.
Another thing could be that Eclipse was the one who was supposed to run the daycare. He seems like a pretty good blend of Sun and Moon, at least how we know they were before the glitches and viruses. Sun and Moon may have been programmed in for the people making the animatronic to be able to take someone personality and Ai from each and blend it together to make a perfect caretaker. However, after the glitches and viruses they may have had to take the Daycare Attendant in for repair and discovered that their perfect blend, Eclipse, was corrupted enough that they would need to start over again. Thus, they set Eclipse into a simple basic Ai mode and began to try and work on putting him back to the way he was, but Fazbear Entertainment being the crappy company it is, most likely said "Just throw the thing out with the two personalities and don't bother fixing it we need to have that thing back and running the Daycare!" So, Sun and Moon were used as the two personalities of the Daycare. Things were great for a while but neither personality was meant to be fully used every day all day every week and their flaw in their personalities and code began to show through, not to mention the virus. Moon became a terror and Sun became over-bearing, snappy and in my opinion not a very good caretaker, especially for young children.
Going off into a different direction but the same concept, i saw someone mention (not sure if it was this channel or someone else.) that Sun and Moon were meant to perform in the Fazbear theatre which is located near the daycare. Sun and Moon may have been personalities/characters meant for this theatre which could explain their extreme personalities. Moon could play the villains, and Sun the good guys and with the assistance of a worker controlling a light they could switch between the two. This may not have worked out due to the pain and the reluctance of each to give the other control of the body. Fazbear Entertainment may have just decided to scrap having this story time play idea and just plopped Eclipse, with the alternate personalities meant for the theater, into the daycare without realizing how much of a problem it could be. The lights are super bright in the daycare, which is like a spotlight being shone onto something, which could trigger Eclipse to turn into Sun and the lights going out in the daycare being too dark which brings out Moon. Which only super bright or super dark lighting it could only let either Sun or Moon shine locking Eclipse away. The reason Eclipse may not know about what is happening is due to his lack of use. Without the proper lighting or proper reset Eclipse would not have been able to receive information from the world around them due to Sun and Moon always being in control. (Little side idea, Eclipse could be locked in Theater Mode which is Sun and Moon.) This would mean that Sun and Moon are on a sperate system than Eclipse which does make sense seeing as Eclipse doesn't show any signs of the virus or of what's going on around him while both Sun and Moon are affected by the virus and they know what's happening in the daycare and with themselves.
Thanks to whoever reads through my rambles which are definitely not being written as an avoidance of my homework
You are such an underrated fnaf youtuber you should be up there with matpat, markiplier and dawko. You're humour and presentation are perfect and brilliant. Your upload frequency is outstanding Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much! That's wonderful of you to say! 8D
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 I'm only being honest
I fully agree like ur so underrated😭😭 I love ur vids so much and I love the interpretations
Sorry for being late!! Can't wait to watch this video!! Your voice is so awesome, I love listening to it!
I always thought Sun's "YOU ARE BANNED FROM THE DAYCARE" is kinda cute, because he acts like this is the worst thing in the world, and certainly the worst thing he can do when he's mad, while all the other animatronics--besides Freddy--are trying to kill you. Its very childlike and cute, at least I think so.
Interesting, I've gotten to the help wanted part, and keep in mind I've never played help wanted so his personality shift is news to me, but when I think about it, its not surprising.
It seems to me Sun somewhat shows signs of Mania, (Keep in mind I'm not a psychologist, and haven't done extensive research on this) He's hyperactive, talks fast, doesn't sleep, and does a lot of things in this state, bouncing from one topic to another quickly. Another symptom when your in this manic state, is to be more temperamental, and easier to aggravate.
As you mentioned in your other glamrock videos, as these robots are sentient, there programmed personality will only be some of it.
Fazbear entertainment wanted cheerful, upbeat, constant energy, and so they got mania.
Better late than never.
The way he says rule breaker before-hand Is also hilarious dudes genuinely miffed lol. Also you ain’t really late dude don’t worry bout it
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@@itstheblandman8734 I know right!!! Really adorable, me and my family still quote that part :)
That’s so sad when eclipse thinks kids are coming, he is stuck in a endless cycle, almost like he is getting his hopes up for nothing . 🥺🥺🥺I love the daycare attendant the first scene I saw him before I even knew he had a moon side I loved his quirkyness and then when I found out he had a dark side ((moon)) I loved him even more…
So wait, is HW2 implying that Sun is a self-aware werewolf? Fully aware of his "other self" but cant control it, unless the lights are on?
To be honest, the way he reacts to Gregory turning the lights off made me think he was always aware of Moon's liability, even back in SB
@ultimate-phenix Oh yeah, I got that vibe too. At the time, I theorised that Sun and Moon were different personality constructs but shared a database so they knew which kids were supposed to be in the daycare, when their pick-up time was, allergies etc (also refuse to believe that Sun was in there on his own, but given FazEnt's past, I wouldn't put it past them.) And that Sun realised pretty quickly that something was wrong with Moon. Because now I'm thinking that Sun and Moon were never meant to be separate characters, but the same one, with Moon being his "night mode" (the animatronics were never given a proper night mode in the originals). Maybe Sun received a software upgrade which is how the Glitchtrap virus got in but somehow it only affected his night mode, thus causing Sun to unintentionally split from his night mode thusly creating Moon, who eventually split and maybe caused by a learning AI to develop its personality and become resentful of Sun. Kind of like Gollum now that I think about it.
@@BrightWulph I know it's a strech but I like the idea of Eclipse being THE Daycare Attendant. Like the guy who was supposed to be the dominant personality originally.
Sun and Moon could have easily being some minor "modes" that somehow gained independance (maybe because of the virus).
I mean, on the Fazmap, the symbol for Daycare is a fused face of Sun and Moon, with Moon's hat and black left faceplate AND Sun's rays and white right faceplate. Looks like Eclipse to me.
Even if it is possible Eclipse is more of a "retroactively somewhat coherent addition" than a "bot that was hinted by a map" XD
@@ultimate-phenix I can see that even at a stretch, it's also possible that Eclipse is just not safe mode, but customer service mode which would explain why he's so docile and how Sun is able to speak through him still.
Idk if this makes sense because I’m pretty new to FNAF but I always felt like Sun and Moon are supposed to tell a bit of William Aftons story. He’s yellow when actually himself (like Afton in Midnight motorist and the movie) and purple when a murderer. He also dealt with children a lot, was not well mentally and once got stuck in the evil form (like springtrap) until he actually accepted just being his evil form.
UM OK WOAH?? I TOTALLY SEE THAT??? I never thought of that but that makes total sense omfg
Sun and Moon are such interesting characters. The question that bothers me the most is the fact that it seems much older than the other animatronics, as you said it has a similar endo to the mimic and as the books say, he was a theater animatronic, and his obviously old design is an artistic choice for the theater or the fact that he is older ? I don't know if my translator will have correctly transcribed what I'm saying, and thank you for making such interesting videos on fnaf, I'm in love with your content
I don't think it's actually that much older. I think it has to do with the designer of DJ Music Man and the Sun/Moon being different from the designer of the Glamrocks. XD