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Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer... Fiery investors Sara Davies, Touker Suleyman, Deborah Meaden, Tej Lalvani and Peter Jones return to the infamous hot seats as a fresh batch of nervous entrepreneurs strive to seal a life-changing deal.
Dragons' Den | Series 17 Episode 13 | BBC
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Whenever a tech entrepreneur shows up,I always feel that Peter is ready to copy his idea
So true
Years ago...naive as I was, I wrote to a major corporation asking for a meeting with their marketing director. I met with him and told him of my idea......he said, "We've already thought of that." I left, and about six months later they had my idea out on the market. Coincidence? I don't think so. I have never made that mistake again, instead I made it somewhere else....with my employer when I worked in the specialty industrial chemical business. Over the course of my 15 years with them as a salesman and sales manager I developed three multi-million dollar marketing programmes that i experimented with and tested and which functioned extraordinarily successfully. I was, in the first few years very successful with my first idea and was promoted to sales manager for a huge part of the country. 14 years later there was a world-wide depression, (in the early 1990's), and the company, in order to save themselves, changed the compensation rules....which is illegal for 100% commissioned employees and I left. Many tears later my good friend, the Chief operating Officer for the country I lived in who had returned to the United States phoned me and said, "You know all your marketing ideas that you and I discussed and I put together for you...." "Yes"......."I just found out from head office that *%^$ &%#%*% told head office that they were HIS ideas and that you were just test-marketing them for him....you know*^$% he was terrified of you." Where there is money there are no morals.
@@erepsekahs any ways around this problem if you're not a high level manager/worker?
@@erepsekahs I feel like I was reading another fake reddit story
Absuletly
Sara seems to be a very kind and warm person. She seemed to jump in to suggest speaking to the wall to stop George making a quick reply without properly thinking about it. I do think that George got the right Dragon for him though. He's obviously nervous and probably a bit timid and I think Tej has the right character to draw the best out of this talented and affable young man.
I agree with most of what you said but I think 45% is a little too high.
Yea but think about it, there's no way she's going to beat Deborah as the hard dragon, so as the new woman dragon Sara would want to put forward a different role for herself in order to stand out in the show. Just sayin', she seems nice.
Tej will have him for breakfast. He displayed a complete absence of negotiating skills. But I agree that he is affable and talented. I hope he toughens up for his own sake.
Same comments every video stfu. No one cares
You say that but it is that exact character he just exploited to get 45% equity.
Sara is a very good person that always gives you her heart. And for that reason Jenny Campbell is out
IS JENNY THE SWAMP THING?
Question - Jenny Campbell.. Has she ever invested in anything?
Haha
Lol !
And for that reason, Adam saleh likes men
In his pitch he sounded like someone drunk trying to explain to the police why he's peeing in someone's front garden 😂
Hilarious!
😂😂😂
He is so cute tho! He was nervous
Does quarantine mean Touker isn’t even gonna get out of bed?
aman singh office space all to himself
😂
He needs at least 25% now
absolutely
Is there a person like behind that wall that talks to them?!
There was no last minute turnaround! Tej made an offer and it was accepted. Misleading video title, BBC. Badly done!
Clickbait every time
The BBC misleading people??? No no not my BBC they would never do that 😂
This guy needs to learn how to sell and negotiate. When he asked Tej "Would u do 40%", Tej responed: blablabla, that was my thinking. He dd NOT say no, and the guy just gave up. I firmly believe he couldv'e gotten 40% or potentially even less.
yes my thoughts too. originally offered 10% and tej said 45%. by asking 40% tej knew that this guy wasn't going to turn him down over that 5%, so he may as well take it.
It was still a fair deal, 100% of nothing vs 55% of something
@@Th3VirtualGam3r That's not how you value a business... So many misguided people always comment shit like that as if dragons are worth stupid equity stakes.
No wonder so many deals fall through after the fact and huge success stories are rare. He doesn't have nothing and it's stupid to act like that's the case.
looks the same to me, but, he was there, and we no.
what could he of said to counter that? Tej was spot on no sales high valuation. you can't defend that. if someone is right about something you can't make up excuses.
Jenny: Billboard is out on the street and to see that
I am out
Forget the tech stuff, that guy could make a fortune modelling!
Jenny: "can someone let me in. All the doors to the studio are locked"
Studio Staff: We've changed the locks Jenny. You're now, permanently out.
Lmfaoooooo
They cant lol shes out
I feel allot of the time Deborah just waits to see what Peter says then copies it and says she's out
100%!
exactly but she has a great mind because she's always careful in making deals .so she has to wait for some young brilliant minds to speak
I actually don't think that's fair because on many occasions she's said she totally disagrees with what he said. I just think she respects his opinion particularly on tech investments and that is just prudent as he's the most successful dragon.
It's insane this guy got an offer at all with a 1 million valuation at no sales. I also think Tej should've gone 50% so he could influence the subscription model into the business more as an equal co-owner.
So he can influenced the ...the shit out of him
He doesn't have to if he makes it a condition of his investment which he did
He seems like a good guy , hope it worked out for him.
Thanks Duggy! I trust you are well 👍
@@toad_ai Will you be coming to America? Is it just limited to companies?
@@toad_ai your website isnt complete. I tried to clicl on your get a quote button and it took me to page not found page. Fix it buddy.
@@indonesianbangladeshicoupl2227 learn some manners cretin
Why is tej saying Welcome on board? I hate that, welcome on board? He is the one who has jumped on board not the pitcher lol
Good deal Tej. I hope he succeeds, interesting that nobody had addressed this challenge before!
I live in dubai and i havent left my home for past 24 days
All i am doing is watching netflix , youtube, pubg, praying for corona to get over.
You know how they say that a very large percentage of these deals fall through after filming, this is definitely one of those. His face when he accepted said it all, I bet he regretted it the second he left.
And the partial, kind of, sort of hug at the end... and the "see you later I guess"
What a nice guy. Well done George
Thanks Steve! It's a long day of filming, lots of bright lights, and a lot of dialogue doesn't make the final edit, so I appreciate your support! Take care
@@toad_ai did you end up taking the offer? Good luck!
Peter looking miserable as ever
And I think Mr. Lalvani could have asked for 49% and he would have got that as well ;-)
Good idea. Smart, simple and efficient. Hope he does well
Thanks Adam!
TOAD - The Outdoor Advertising Directory Very nice delivery.
Stay safe everyone! Hope your -day- quarantine is going well.
U 2 😁
What quarantine? Some of us are still working you know. People really need to stop assuming everyone is quarantined.
@@hurricaneheli79 Sorry for trying to use a little humor. My wife is in healthcare and has been screening people entering our local hospital, so I definitely understand not everyone is in quarantine. Hope that stick falls out your backend when this is all done and over.
The first part of my original comment still stands. "Stay safe everyone!"
@@hurricaneheli79 I'm back working 50 hr work weeks. I'd rather be making money than sittin on my ass waiting for unemployment.
You too good sir
"A potential *commercial* success", ah subtle, I like it
So subtle my eyes were adverted away from it
Tej is smart with this
Brilliant idea, hope he does well, it’s tough being in the Den, so glad he got an offer and support going forward.
Entrepreneur: “We can get billboards near offices in London.”
Touker: 👀 “I’ll give you exactly what you asked for.”
Deborah takes her head out of Peter's bottom and says, 'I echo what Peter has said....'
Oh, hahahaha...ha
She knows he calls the shots as to which Dragon stays or goes
What is it with that wall that helps people make decisions ? All I do is bang my head against mine.
I really like Debra
She has a very good understanding about business
That’s what they said to Rightmove. Now that’s the only place we go to check and buy houses - definitely not agents 😃
I like Dragons Den UK!❤
He reminds me of one of those "Hooray Henrys" staggering around at the office party, tie hanging off, half smashed with a bottle of champaigne in his hand. He's also very likeable. Good luck George.
George is cuuuuuuuuuuuute
tej just figured it was a good way to get his advertising for his company and thats why he invested not because he believes there is a business there but because he sees it as an add on perk for his company
George seems stoned
Probably had a line of charlie😂🙃
Lol not stoned. Fairly tired! It's a long day of filming.
I’m addicted to the dragons
How does someone come onto this show without being able to justify their valuation? Mind boggling
I love SARA !!! SHE MAKES SUCH CUTE FACES
9:27 - Says "it gives good advice" while shaking head.
nice catch
Drinking game...take a shot everytime he says 'yeah '
Why do they accept such ludicrous %es. I would never give that type of %of my business away.
tej gonna put 'vitabiotics' on few of them and still gonna save lot more than 100 k in a months propabely
propabely what is THAT?.
@@HIOP0 vitabiotics is business of one of the dragon and they advertise everywhere tube etc
@@luisvega666 No... What is PROPABELY?
@@HIOP0 do not be that guy ,we all hate that guy
@@luisvega666 Try to concentrate on the matter in hand. You were asked about the "word" you posted... propabely... what is that and what does it mean?.
Jenny: "I'm in lockdown so I am in but I am also out."
Perfect example of price anchoring
It seems like Tej thought this would be a healthy supplement to his business portfolio.
Peter must be thinking...why didn't i think of this! Competitor he hates it 🤣🤣🤣
Desiigner: I got broads in Atlanta
Touker: I got office space in London
I couldn’t be an investor. He’s so handsome I’d give him my money straight away.
+1
Hahahaha
Just your money?? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
if this fella was a half-decent salesman they’d all have wanted to invest. It was an awkward, nervous and unimpressive pitch. He should have justified the valuation based on the product development, development team and accessibility to the advertising now afforded by the platform. Even the attempt to renegotiate was limp.
It's GUARANTEED every time Peter opts out Debra follows with some unimportant waffle aping what her toy boy has just said, she is limited on this show, just watch her closely Peter is out then Debra follows pretending she knows what she's talking about!
Seen Debora invest plenty of times when Peter didn't want to, also seen her give advice and critisicms plenty of times when Peter hasn't.
Basically like the Rightmove of advertising
Sara hasnt changed here outfit from last season
It's all season 11. They just seemed to take an extended break over Christmas/New Years
They need to wear same clothing for shooting.
George is like ten times posher than all dragons combined
The concept and the way his website works is really good, although why is it called "toad?"
Thank you for the kind remark! We trust you are well!
@@toad_ai Your welcome! And yes I am doing good!
The dragons took this young man for a ride.🚗
Talk to your shadow advisor.
"The Ad Man"
Well done, great concept and good luck
He seems unenthusiastic and lacks energy imo.
Oh Yeh? Well you sweat, and you wet the bed and blame a blood relative,many of whom you regularly sleep with,and from whom you receive regular naked bathing. You legend!
Are you man reviewer UK too?
He could provide this information for people in universities (for their courses) as a package - they will want this. Students need something like this in a marketing or media course for example.
He has a lovely nature
probably one of the best products that's been on the Dragons den - ever.
Thanks Deniz! Much appreciated. Hope you enjoyed the show.
This guys makes me want to watch Downton Abbey.
I had exact same idea 2 Years ago, just for Vienna.
Even did some prototyping with this kind of optimization, some spot where u wanna book for a specific campaign are obvious, others aren't.
So in my humble opinion, he didn't explain the data science part well enough, cause it also help customers to get more bang for their bucks. This out door panels come with different price tags and lets say u wanna spend x amount for a campaign and you try to target a specific audience u might get very different results then a human expects.
So if the data collecting and AI part is done well, its easily worth that 1 million. I'm surprised that other dragons didn't see the potential of this.
But to be honest, seeing myself stand in front of this, i probably wouldn't have done any better, so in that regard well done George.
give him 500
Dragon den will put a billboard of Jenny saying I am out
How on earth did this guy manage to set up the business? It looks like he is only about 30% there in the head. I'm sure it was nerves, but how could anyone have had confidence in him?
well i want to get rid of pollution in public space.
in like Thailand there are eyepollution all over
billboards are eyepollution.
Tej and his 🤏🏿 sips of water crack me up
Drinking 1ml of water
Come on, guy could have at least asked if the money was repaid within 12/18 months whether tej would come down to 40% surely?!
They are not evaluating him properly. It's a great idea.
Someone needs to come on that show with a cure for '5 O'clock shadow' and pitch it to (excuse the spelling) Taij Lavani. It's guaranteed to get a huge investment.
Genius business model
Seems like a top dude
Hope it's all going well for him 👍
Well those that watched this on tele I think we all knew he was gna get an offer as he came in the last 15 min of the show😂
your billboard Price is so high
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Jenny : for that reason im out 😂😂
Lol good point. Prices are typically much, much lower. That was a large screen on a prime location.
I thought the dude needed to work to create his own billboard locations to get more % and push those as a strategy. Licensing route is quick way to grow though and then sell as a nice exit.
he should have asked for 100 N95 Respirators for 5% equity. 😳
I think it looks like a great idea and he's executed it really well. But does he really need to be that terrified, sweating and gasping for breath.
Doing a master's in real estate finance now at Cass
I think Sarah gets paid an extra glass of water for every smile she does.
George is adorable!
damn they give you time to think here, if it was shark tank they would have been like TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS
Chat with the wall...it gives good advice.. WTF? What is it with this sending people to the wall anyway?!?
Advertising entrepreneur who can't sell his product? There's no positive energy in the room.
He's not really someone who designs adverts themselves, so I don't think he should be expected to be good at selling his product
Can Tej decide how he wants to pronounce ‘vitamin’
THANK YOU! Sometimes it's "Vetamin" and other times it's "Vytamin"
Well done George. g
Thanks Gareth! Hope all's well.
He would have gotten the 40 deal if he just "40 and we have deal right now" and then stretch out his arm and smile. Phsyical apperance is everything. He shouldn't have "ehhhmmm" that much.
Sara is beautiful🌝
Where was jenny?
Good idea. If he develops the core data, demographics and map to billboard campaigns. Cant seem to find a link. Anyone?
Toad.ai
Thanks both Hope you enjoyed!
@@EdElric666 Your website is written in invisible ink.
Jenny is out of the building
worst pitch i ever saw...dull as ditchwater! when offered a deal he may have replied "yeah whatever, can do"
Some of the dragons haven’t aged well at all
Touker seems to enjoy rejecting the entrepreneurs.
He loves it 😂
Tej Lalvani wishing he knew how to use an iron on his shirt like the Entrepreneur at 0:13
That’s folds not crease u idiot
@@RSN552 You obviously have never used an iron before and have zero intelligence also
Reminds me of Will from W1A
Lol
These guys dont negotiate hard enough. Should stick at 40%.
45% stake it's too high, i can't give out all that stake in my company after, they have identified a potential in it.
Guy looked and sounded like Jonny Depp in his 20s