Still this bike I think is above its weight class and the brand has a premium product that delivers exactly what the customer is paying for, you get the overall awesome excited experience with the unboxing and you are not let down by the build quality of the product for the price point. I think this bike is a great option for someone who is looking for a high end bike who doesnt want the mainstream side of things
@@ronb9901 yeah…frame came with wrong location rear brake caliper holes (more than 1.5mm off). Rear brake can be used only with 1.5mm spacer behind rotor. Issue was acknowledged on some frames, replacement was promised, not yet a word on the process and the date…embarrassing for such a price
I laughed when you said that people would say 75psi would be too much for you. I remember when you started your channel and you were running something like 110psi. You have came a long way.
@reinholdachleitner2069 Yep! I don't go that low, but I'm 225lbs. Lower pressures are so awesome! I'm old enough that I rode when 120psi and higher was what we did..I do not miss those days.
lmao I know, I am loving this youtube because I think if not I would still be stuck in my ways and not change a thing but all these things I have picked up on people advise have made me a better rider and i can now give this knowledge in my store as well for someone else who is looking for change, I still find myself with a 28 tire and 85 psi is my fave
as PeakTorque mentioned, everything starts to be too stiff, so you lower pressure in your tires for comfort, to the point when you start increasing the drag....
Giant TCR Advanced Pro Frameset is $2500, Cervelo Soloist is $2700, Ritte Esprit is $3K, SL-8 Tarmac Pro is $3500. Point being, I don’t see a compelling reason to buy this particular bike brand. Warranty, Parts, Local distribution, Cred, Resale value are all working against Seka when their price point is this high.
That's for sure. I'd only consider buying that frame for that price if the factory making it would provide an option of fully custom paintwork done on it.
@@Danilo-uc8lz hard to go wrong with the TCR. Here in the US, Giant has a two year carbon warranty. Made in Taiwan, Dealers everywhere, and it’s a known and respected brand. And IMO resale value would hold up more than Seka.
@petersouthernboy6327 If aero is a big thing the TCR tested slower, but the that was without an integrated aero cockpit. I think if the cabling was tidied up (it was the previous grn TCR) and a more aero cockpit the difference would be reduced.
My first SEKA was the Afield I bought it back in 2021 in China when I lived in Shanghai, the bike has now 20k Km on it and is still a solid light weight bike. My second SEKA is the EXCEED 2022, this bike has now 14k Km on it and is also very flaw less. The only issue I have is the seat post clamp design. Newer Exceeds and also the SPEAR have an updated version. If the $3000 is too much I recommend the regular version of the EXCEED. It sells for about the half price to the SPEAR. ✌
I ride a Seka Exceed RDC in naked black. Its an amazingly beautiful bike and you get compliments and second looks all the time. Never had a problem getting a Seka where I am. Got mine, in 1 month, and did ask and confirm the Spear is on a similar timeframe now. Which is nothing considering SWorks and Dogmas are on 4-6 months wait currently.
thats awesome, obviously things are a little different for brands like this over here in America, where as the big name brands are easy in stock and dealer backed but I know there are some dealers in areas already established. if the brand can get bigger precense and have better backing with delivery it would be nice
Thanks for featuring this bike. At that price point, Seka needs to develop way more presence in their target markets. There need to be dealerships, there need to be service centers, there needs to be places to go in case of warranty issues. Maybe they should also offer complete bikes with the partners they need. Only then they can indeed compete with the big brands. Could be they should also sponsor teams.
I think people need to do some testing with seka against mainstream brands. Like do a hilly,flat route time and speed comparison. I owned a seka exceed rdc."crashed it " bars turneed and snapped the toptube. Riding a tarmac sl8 pro. Have had to do alot work to the bike to get it even close to the riding speeds on hills,flats,tt segments and i wouldnt bother comparing sprinting ability between the 2. SEKA wipes that one hands down. Bike was stiff but compliant as in it would obsorb the shock of rough roads, and harsh bumps not too sure if that was down to the seka handlebars aswell. With multiple choices of wheels and tyres. Thing would corner like a beast aswell especially on decents. Could literally lay it so far over that the tyre would just hold grip. Sl8 pro seems to be abit more "LABOURING" as in you have to keep driving the crank more. And it has a weird feeling coning into hills almost like your riding into sinking mud. But then once you start forcing it it goes 😅. Definitely not that good aero wise on a solid TT segment. When you hit the undulating parts in the course its pretty much the sinking mud slow down the have to try sprint it back up to speed. Not the most efficient in a headwind sswell. Hope someone like GC performance does a head to head vs a couple of other mainstream brands.
I’m getting the feeling Seka are another fake news brand. We have heard stories of people putting deposits on frames down 6 months ago, still no sign of the bike. To be honest I feel partly responsible, I was hyping the bike at EuroBike and fell for the marketing Koolaid that they were going to hit the market running. Must admit I was shocked to see them at that event in the UK, once again hyping the bike … but they don’t seem to have any intention of actually selling it.
I've heard rumors of them having major issues with their factory or lack of factory to actually ramp proper production. I love the look and almost drank the kool aid on a deposit but am glad I didn't. We're seeing the same story that happened with the first SEKA frame but it seems even worse this time. I don't know one person that has received their frame besides youtubers.
Interesting comment Chris as I only learnt about them from watching a Rouleur show video in which they were featured. Another brand that was heavily marketed was Orro and they even had a showroom five miles from where I live but it was never open. I think they have now gone into liquidation. Makes me wonder if these companies money laundering companies. If your going to pay this sort of money there's some great Chinese brands that can compete.
@tupacsgohst I have am sl8 pro after crashing my seka exceed at 55-60km. Exceed rdc The seka is definitely faster in all factors. Hills,flats and sprinting😅 bike definitely deserves more credit then it's due.just lacks the same service and customer response you would get through a mainstream brand and shop. If I had the chance without having to wait so long to import a seka back into newzealand. I would have went back to a seka. Kind of kicking myself for rushing into easy access tarmac sl8. But I have to live with my choice for now
I'd add those CamelBak podium are one of the easier bottles to get in the cage IMO. Something like a specialized purist feels slightly wider in diameter.
I’d be interested in this but they need a distributor in the US, I don’t want to import it. And the price needs to be more competitive, especially in the current market.
Wanted to buy one because of the hype, but got too frustrated with the actual price and the uncertainty of delivery. One European dealer sells the Seka Spear for €2,900 (standard version) and €3,400 for the RDC, both including handlebars. Another overseas dealer, who I won't name, told me that they are currently removing SEKA from their listings as SEKA have been unresponsive and have not delivered our recent order. Instead I bought the TAVELO Arrow for almost half the price at 1580€ (including handlebars) + 80€ tax.
@@razorree I think this seems to be true. Stiff and light is no problem now, the complexity of the layup for good compliance seems to be where the money goes.
what would the complete build cost be to build this same spec bike to a customer ?....this may be a question to talk about over the phone....great job on the videos !!
I wouldn’t pay $3k for a Seka frame when I could get used frames like the S-Works SL7, Factor, Pinarello or new SL8(non S-Works) for just a little more money. Not to mention the poor resale value on Seka.
Right now? Only Trek high end bicycles are "made in the USA". Everything else is made in Taiwan or PRC. You are paying a serious premium for the US label vice buying a direct from Taiwan or PRC made and shipped to you frame/handlebar/seatpost. The issue is building up a bicycle or having a shop do it for you.
I think you would love it, it is a bike that I cant stop looking at, love the lines of the bike, and also still performs at high levels, and always a good talking bike at the group rides
If a company is not reliable, then what is it ? it’s unreliable and who wants to do business with the company that’s unreliable! The bike itself is a beauty!😊
I wanted one, but not anymore (SL8 most likely). They did well with hyping the Spear, but as soon as they started delivering frames it's all fallen apart. The web site still has a tonne of grammatical errors (would take all of 10 minutes to correct), an official dealer continues to spam the Weight Weenies forum and rub members up the wrong way (his writing skills are even worse than the Seka web site), there's hardly anyone making TH-cam content on the Spear (I've stopped searching). Nice looking product, glad to hear it's actually good. Had lots of potential, it's such a shame that SEKA's marketing has stalled at the finish line.
yea I think david arthur is getting one, the bike is for sure an amazing bike and also the weight on mine was heavier then advertised but this bike for me is a top tier bike just like you said they went quiet on everything, I dont know how a company can spend so much money on RD and market the shit out of it and be at all the bike shows to get the attention and the only thing they cant do it produce product
That’s a tough one. The tavelo arow was an exceptional bike. Just this one has the full unboxing experience and all the finishes were premium. But on the road they both performed amazing.
Depends. GC compared this to a Tarmac SL8 Pro but this is much better deal as you get both the seatpost of your choice and sized handbags, something you don't get with Specialized. Same with Giant. You have to pay extra for both.
I think people need to recognize that products like this are not aimed at western markets. That's a large part of the lack of distro transparency to western buyers. Cycling in China is transitioning from a utility to recreational act as the Chinese populace has become more wealthy. Bikes like this are being developed with domestic markets in mind to take advantage of that. Its not meant to compete with establish brands in western markets. And if anything, the fact that westerners still want it despite the price tag only enhances domestic appeal. Because while Chinese consumers with the cash like to flaunt luxury western products. Chinese buyers REALLY like to buy Chinese brands that white westerners are using. That is peak social cred.
No one in their right minds would go for a China frame for a mere 10-25% discount. !Remindme when price is 50-60% off a Specialized/Cannondale. For now, Canyon FTW.
@HeadPack on paper they offer more but then one day you can't loosen the cockpit torx screw , or the seatpost gets stuck regardless if you loosen the screw, and you have to pay for it all as it those things were normal maintenance
What's going to happen when the tariffs kick in next year? I think we are going to move back to time when department store bikes are what people will be riding and all the specialized bikes will be very difficult to get your hands on. What the market looked like the last decade will be gone.
same thing that happened when they were in place before, people forgot and we delt with it then too, companies change there shipping ports and ship them out of different countries, a little more in shipping but nnothing really
Of all the china bikes, Seka is the only one I would happily own and pull up to my local group ride without feeling embarrassed. Seka has marketed their brand well whereas every other china bike looks like they're from Aliexpress due to their stupid names and font.
I got myself a Elves Falath Evo last year. Got 6000km on it sofar. Tryed getting a Seka Exeed but just like Grant mentioned in the vid.... I am one of many that waited for months and got refunded without any info what so ever. With Elves i had a Rep i could call, the custom paint guy got back to me within hours of me placeing my order, i got updates how far the production was. After the frame was shiped i asked if i could get a spare direkt mount hanger (there was a normal spare included) i got 2 spare hangers free of charge. Getting me the new TT Frame next, they have my trust.
these chinese bikes are not compelling unless sold for a 1k. its the same reason people now buy chinese made rims being that they are the same but sold at a fraction of the cost of american marketed chinese rims so unless the bike frames are a fraction of the cost of more reliable American brands they will never compete in the american or european marketplace where prestige and reliability is paramount. Get a brand new complete bike sl7 for 2500 with 105 when the sale hits in a week and that frame is far better than a chinese ripoff seka.
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Still this bike I think is above its weight class and the brand has a premium product that delivers exactly what the customer is paying for, you get the overall awesome excited experience with the unboxing and you are not let down by the build quality of the product for the price point. I think this bike is a great option for someone who is looking for a high end bike who doesnt want the mainstream side of things
Great warranty I still can’t comment. My wife bike has been defective since launch 5/6 months ago and no words yet from Seka on the replacement date
@@AlessandroLandra I’ll comment for you then, that sucks! 5 months later no word on replacement? No thanks.
@@ronb9901 yeah…frame came with wrong location rear brake caliper holes (more than 1.5mm off). Rear brake can be used only with 1.5mm spacer behind rotor. Issue was acknowledged on some frames, replacement was promised, not yet a word on the process and the date…embarrassing for such a price
Certainly looks like an impressive bike
@@CycleXplorer yeah no complaints about that. Love how it rides. Just waiting for an answer one day…..
I laughed when you said that people would say 75psi would be too much for you. I remember when you started your channel and you were running something like 110psi. You have came a long way.
I'm using 55 and 65psi front and rear in my 28mm tires and it's great,really comfortable.
@reinholdachleitner2069 Yep! I don't go that low, but I'm 225lbs. Lower pressures are so awesome! I'm old enough that I rode when 120psi and higher was what we did..I do not miss those days.
@@reinholdachleitner2069was going to say the same. About 50-55 psi front and rear, and feels great
lmao I know, I am loving this youtube because I think if not I would still be stuck in my ways and not change a thing but all these things I have picked up on people advise have made me a better rider and i can now give this knowledge in my store as well for someone else who is looking for change, I still find myself with a 28 tire and 85 psi is my fave
as PeakTorque mentioned, everything starts to be too stiff, so you lower pressure in your tires for comfort, to the point when you start increasing the drag....
Giant TCR Advanced Pro Frameset is $2500, Cervelo Soloist is $2700, Ritte Esprit is $3K, SL-8 Tarmac Pro is $3500. Point being, I don’t see a compelling reason to buy this particular bike brand. Warranty, Parts, Local distribution, Cred, Resale value are all working against Seka when their price point is this high.
That's for sure. I'd only consider buying that frame for that price if the factory making it would provide an option of fully custom paintwork done on it.
Giant for me!
@@Danilo-uc8lz hard to go wrong with the TCR. Here in the US, Giant has a two year carbon warranty. Made in Taiwan, Dealers everywhere, and it’s a known and respected brand. And IMO resale value would hold up more than Seka.
@@petersouthernboy6327 Im out in the LA area! I’m lucky to have a Giant TCR and Propel. Can’t imagine anything better! Cheers.
@petersouthernboy6327 If aero is a big thing the TCR tested slower, but the that was without an integrated aero cockpit. I think if the cabling was tidied up (it was the previous grn TCR) and a more aero cockpit the difference would be reduced.
My first SEKA was the Afield I bought it back in 2021 in China when I lived in Shanghai, the bike has now 20k Km on it and is still a solid light weight bike. My second SEKA is the EXCEED 2022, this bike has now 14k Km on it and is also very flaw less. The only issue I have is the seat post clamp design. Newer Exceeds and also the SPEAR have an updated version. If the $3000 is too much I recommend the regular version of the EXCEED. It sells for about the half price to the SPEAR. ✌
I bought the new seat.... works great... perfect.
I ride a Seka Exceed RDC in naked black. Its an amazingly beautiful bike and you get compliments and second looks all the time.
Never had a problem getting a Seka where I am. Got mine, in 1 month, and did ask and confirm the Spear is on a similar timeframe now. Which is nothing considering SWorks and Dogmas are on 4-6 months wait currently.
thats awesome, obviously things are a little different for brands like this over here in America, where as the big name brands are easy in stock and dealer backed but I know there are some dealers in areas already established. if the brand can get bigger precense and have better backing with delivery it would be nice
Thanks for featuring this bike. At that price point, Seka needs to develop way more presence in their target markets. There need to be dealerships, there need to be service centers, there needs to be places to go in case of warranty issues. Maybe they should also offer complete bikes with the partners they need. Only then they can indeed compete with the big brands. Could be they should also sponsor teams.
It is a great bike, just needs to get in front of some eyes!
That is one of the best looking thumbnails of a bike
I think so as well it is one of my faveorites out there
SEKA Spear looks awesome. A great bike for sure. But as you pointed out, availability & waiting period are killing it
yea that is the only issue with the bike, if it was in stock add to cart right now it wouuld be selling for sure
Actually waiting times are not bad at all
Wow, a direct to consumer bike company out of China that actually hired a branding designer 😂 looking good! Thanks for the video
Such a beautiful bike!!
I think people need to do some testing with seka against mainstream brands.
Like do a hilly,flat route time and speed comparison.
I owned a seka exceed rdc."crashed it " bars turneed and snapped the toptube.
Riding a tarmac sl8 pro. Have had to do alot work to the bike to get it even close to the riding speeds on hills,flats,tt segments and i wouldnt bother comparing sprinting ability between the 2. SEKA wipes that one hands down.
Bike was stiff but compliant as in it would obsorb the shock of rough roads, and harsh bumps not too sure if that was down to the seka handlebars aswell. With multiple choices of wheels and tyres. Thing would corner like a beast aswell especially on decents. Could literally lay it so far over that the tyre would just hold grip.
Sl8 pro seems to be abit more "LABOURING" as in you have to keep driving the crank more. And it has a weird feeling coning into hills almost like your riding into sinking mud. But then once you start forcing it it goes 😅.
Definitely not that good aero wise on a solid TT segment. When you hit the undulating parts in the course its pretty much the sinking mud slow down the have to try sprint it back up to speed. Not the most efficient in a headwind sswell.
Hope someone like GC performance does a head to head vs a couple of other mainstream brands.
BTW, Grant, Assiomo may not be able to do Dura Ace pedals because the spindle is totally different from the Ultegra spindle. Just a guess though.
I’m getting the feeling Seka are another fake news brand. We have heard stories of people putting deposits on frames down 6 months ago, still no sign of the bike. To be honest I feel partly responsible, I was hyping the bike at EuroBike and fell for the marketing Koolaid that they were going to hit the market running. Must admit I was shocked to see them at that event in the UK, once again hyping the bike … but they don’t seem to have any intention of actually selling it.
I've heard rumors of them having major issues with their factory or lack of factory to actually ramp proper production. I love the look and almost drank the kool aid on a deposit but am glad I didn't. We're seeing the same story that happened with the first SEKA frame but it seems even worse this time. I don't know one person that has received their frame besides youtubers.
Yet to see one at CP, lol!
I have one...
I placed an order some time ago and now I've read this comment, which is kind of upsetting to hear.
Interesting comment Chris as I only learnt about them from watching a Rouleur show video in which they were featured. Another brand that was heavily marketed was Orro and they even had a showroom five miles from where I live but it was never open. I think they have now gone into liquidation. Makes me wonder if these companies money laundering companies. If your going to pay this sort of money there's some great Chinese brands that can compete.
Someone shared a medium shadow black weight at 720g, so there is a lot of variety between paints.
yea and mine is the heaviest paint
Appreciate the channel, Grant. Always interesting content.
thank you!!
Hello GC. Nice bike. I'm the French Seka dealer, its a fantastic product yes !
looks like overpriced chinese copycats of a new company no thanks
Ah bon ya un dealer français de SEKA?! 😱
@@SamuelBlackMetalRider et oui, vous n avez pas trouvé l information ?
@ non! Lien svp
@tupacsgohst I have am sl8 pro after crashing my seka exceed at 55-60km.
Exceed rdc
The seka is definitely faster in all factors. Hills,flats and sprinting😅 bike definitely deserves more credit then it's due.just lacks the same service and customer response you would get through a mainstream brand and shop.
If I had the chance without having to wait so long to import a seka back into newzealand. I would have went back to a seka.
Kind of kicking myself for rushing into easy access tarmac sl8. But I have to live with my choice for now
I'd add those CamelBak podium are one of the easier bottles to get in the cage IMO. Something like a specialized purist feels slightly wider in diameter.
Great vid dude as always.. not a bike for me.. could I ask which saddle your running on this bike ? Thanks Pete 🚴🏻👍
thanks so much!!! I am running the berk saddle
You really made a good review on this frame. Would be nice if you could get your hand with Seka Exceed. Geometry is quite similar to sworks Venge.
Thanks so much
I’d be interested in this but they need a distributor in the US, I don’t want to import it. And the price needs to be more competitive, especially in the current market.
thats what I was saying, I think if this was in the realm of 2,000 it would hit a lot of people with a tough choice
Wanted to buy one because of the hype, but got too frustrated with the actual price and the uncertainty of delivery. One European dealer sells the Seka Spear for €2,900 (standard version) and €3,400 for the RDC, both including handlebars. Another overseas dealer, who I won't name, told me that they are currently removing SEKA from their listings as SEKA have been unresponsive and have not delivered our recent order. Instead I bought the TAVELO Arrow for almost half the price at 1580€ (including handlebars) + 80€ tax.
Looks good, and it might be a great bike, but as yet it's not tried and tested. They need to build a better western reputation and then up the price!
maybe because it's easy to make stiff carbon frame, but it's difficult to make comfortable/compliant (but stiff) frame ....
like Tarmac SL8 ?
@@razorree I think this seems to be true. Stiff and light is no problem now, the complexity of the layup for good compliance seems to be where the money goes.
what would the complete build cost be to build this same spec bike to a customer ?....this may be a question to talk about over the phone....great job on the videos !!
probably $8000 remember it is sram red
I wouldn’t pay $3k for a Seka frame when I could get used frames like the S-Works SL7, Factor, Pinarello or new SL8(non S-Works) for just a little more money. Not to mention the poor resale value on Seka.
yup that bike may be interesting at a 1000 price point but 3k is gouging and its chinese so your on your own when it breaks or comes broken
More money and none of them will have a valid warranty for you. Suit yourself but you’re just paying for branding rather than function at that point.
no6 is my favorite today.
It’s really tough but same here
Can you build this up with a separate stem and handlebar rather than Seka's integrated barstem?
yes you can you just need the headset for it, like a vision metron 5d
A second Seka Spear will be a Sicker Spare!
In your face BMC. 🤣...the t-shirt. Great review.
The boss of BMC has a Seka
Tariffs worry me for long term parts. what brands are there built in the US that are good?
Time will have a factory in the US.
Right now? Only Trek high end bicycles are "made in the USA". Everything else is made in Taiwan or PRC. You are paying a serious premium for the US label vice buying a direct from Taiwan or PRC made and shipped to you frame/handlebar/seatpost. The issue is building up a bicycle or having a shop do it for you.
What long term parts? You crash it and break the frame, you buy an new one. Same as a bike made in the US, except half the price.
tariffs will still hit the imported materials used by domestic factories
Lynskey, Litespeed!!
Grant do you have any opinions on the Rapier handlebar?…like it any less or more then all the other bars you’ve tried?
it is phenomenal, really stiff and nice ergonomics
Great review … thanks.
Thank you so much!!!
You buy them in a shop here in Malaysia...
yea and I know they have some dealers but i have spoken to other dealers who have them and they say they have some inventory issues with them as well
GC, thanks for you honestly review! I want to sell my Bianchi Oltre Pro for a complete Seka Spear home made ^^ Really love ^^ Keep Going ^^
I think you would love it, it is a bike that I cant stop looking at, love the lines of the bike, and also still performs at high levels, and always a good talking bike at the group rides
If a company is not reliable, then what is it ? it’s unreliable and who wants to do business with the company that’s unreliable! The bike itself is a beauty!😊
Where did you get the storage container for the bike?
its made by elite
Get one of the young guys at the shop to video on rides. You know, mild threat ride and video, or calling you mom .😅
hahahaha I want to but they dont ride to be honest, I got osme action cameras and just gonna set them up
Yass super nice
berk saddle are super flexy
I dont get that feeling from it at all, if antyhing for me I felt it to be stiff
15:00 cages are super tight? You know triathletes are gonna create a run on these cages now... 😂
hahahhaha they are etrmely tight I odnt know how they would get this in and out from behind the back
@GCPerformance18 ever used the x-lab gorilla xt cages? Super tight, but if you have the right motion it's not too bad.
I wanted one, but not anymore (SL8 most likely). They did well with hyping the Spear, but as soon as they started delivering frames it's all fallen apart. The web site still has a tonne of grammatical errors (would take all of 10 minutes to correct), an official dealer continues to spam the Weight Weenies forum and rub members up the wrong way (his writing skills are even worse than the Seka web site), there's hardly anyone making TH-cam content on the Spear (I've stopped searching). Nice looking product, glad to hear it's actually good. Had lots of potential, it's such a shame that SEKA's marketing has stalled at the finish line.
Wow you’re an angry person. You need to get out more.
yea I think david arthur is getting one, the bike is for sure an amazing bike and also the weight on mine was heavier then advertised but this bike for me is a top tier bike just like you said they went quiet on everything, I dont know how a company can spend so much money on RD and market the shit out of it and be at all the bike shows to get the attention and the only thing they cant do it produce product
Weighing the bike 1x... That really was just for $hits and gigs because NO ONE runs 1x outside for the Florida bois
lmfao 1x is only the way!!!!
Is it 1000 dollars better than tavelo arow?😊
That’s a tough one. The tavelo arow was an exceptional bike. Just this one has the full unboxing experience and all the finishes were premium. But on the road they both performed amazing.
Thanks. I have the tavelo and I love it.. it rides just amazing.
Again, too many great used bikes out there complete for less than the cost of this frame.
yea you could say this about the whole bike market right now
@ true! 💯
Maybe its good, but too expensive
Depends. GC compared this to a Tarmac SL8 Pro but this is much better deal as you get both the seatpost of your choice and sized handbags, something you don't get with Specialized. Same with Giant. You have to pay extra for both.
I think people need to recognize that products like this are not aimed at western markets. That's a large part of the lack of distro transparency to western buyers. Cycling in China is transitioning from a utility to recreational act as the Chinese populace has become more wealthy. Bikes like this are being developed with domestic markets in mind to take advantage of that. Its not meant to compete with establish brands in western markets. And if anything, the fact that westerners still want it despite the price tag only enhances domestic appeal. Because while Chinese consumers with the cash like to flaunt luxury western products. Chinese buyers REALLY like to buy Chinese brands that white westerners are using. That is peak social cred.
Sick bike 🙏👌
I would take this over Giant any day of the week lol XD At least in European countries Giant is bashed on for bad quality control.
It looks so good compared to giant
Good thing is the bikes have derived you from imperial measures. Metric is the Way.
Dude! You are pretty fast on the flats! You have power, skills for that, and knowledge! Please don't sell yourself short.
:) thanks so much, there are guys out here who are all about the sport and crush speeds out here I just do it for the fun of it and I like nice bikes
No one in their right minds would go for a China frame for a mere 10-25% discount. !Remindme when price is 50-60% off a Specialized/Cannondale. For now, Canyon FTW.
Yeah Canyon, until you collect a couple of warranty problems and they start refusing to cover stuff pinning the blame on you
@@npa5825 So go with China brands that have sponsored influencers saying that they had good customer experience? lawlz
Regarding warranty, Canyon offers little more than the Chinese brands.
@HeadPack on paper they offer more but then one day you can't loosen the cockpit torx screw , or the seatpost gets stuck regardless if you loosen the screw, and you have to pay for it all as it those things were normal maintenance
@@npa5825 And you will continue to fall for sponsored influencers saying they had no issues with their Chinese bike warranties.
What's going to happen when the tariffs kick in next year? I think we are going to move back to time when department store bikes are what people will be riding and all the specialized bikes will be very difficult to get your hands on. What the market looked like the last decade will be gone.
same thing that happened when they were in place before, people forgot and we delt with it then too, companies change there shipping ports and ship them out of different countries, a little more in shipping but nnothing really
Of all the china bikes, Seka is the only one I would happily own and pull up to my local group ride without feeling embarrassed. Seka has marketed their brand well whereas every other china bike looks like they're from Aliexpress due to their stupid names and font.
I got myself a Elves Falath Evo last year. Got 6000km on it sofar.
Tryed getting a Seka Exeed but just like Grant mentioned in the vid.... I am one of many that waited for months and got refunded without any info what so ever.
With Elves i had a Rep i could call, the custom paint guy got back to me within hours of me placeing my order, i got updates how far the production was. After the frame was shiped i asked if i could get a spare direkt mount hanger (there was a normal spare included) i got 2 spare hangers free of charge.
Getting me the new TT Frame next, they have my trust.
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@@tupacsgohst GFY ;-)
these chinese bikes are not compelling unless sold for a 1k. its the same reason people now buy chinese made rims being that they are the same but sold at a fraction of the cost of american marketed chinese rims so unless the bike frames are a fraction of the cost of more reliable American brands they will never compete in the american or european marketplace where prestige and reliability is paramount. Get a brand new complete bike sl7 for 2500 with 105 when the sale hits in a week and that frame is far better than a chinese ripoff seka.
Is it an MTB? Oh wait, see ya. Lol😊
Lost me with the 54/34 lowest gear
lmao we dont need it
Just another cheaply made frame with crap 1x and a nice spray job
nope