The Bad Boy Pistons don't get enough credit for being able to stop the Lakers, Celtics and Michael Jordan in the 80s early 90s, and most of that is because of the display of sore losing, and their aggressive style of play. But they won back to back championships in the golden era. But that style was never built to last and who better than Jordan to end it. Either way salute to the legends.
I hated Detroit. I grew up in LA in the 80's. Loved my Showtime Lakers and was a hard core Michael Jordan fan. I appreciate The Pistons now and they were glat out ROBBED in 1988
Truth be told they got robbed in 88… And in 87 if not for Zeke throwing the ball away they might’ve went a 4 peat. They were built to last just squandered two opportunities. One to no fault of they own.
The Pistons didn't really stop anybody. The dirty little secret on them was that they caught everyone at the right time: the Celtics and Lakers when they were either out of or very close to being past their prime, and the Bulls before they came into theirs. The hypocritical thing is that the culture often tries to apply the same thing to the Bulls when they faced the Pistons themselves en route to beating the frankly revamped Lakers.
The thing is people don’t credit them is they were the first time team to have their own charter bus and plane; and the highest ratings in the 80s featured the Pistons! They were a blessing for the NBA 🏀
The Pistons' growth wasn't stunted... they maxed out and were replaced by another champion. Pretty much the natural life of all champions from one-timers to dynasties. They were a call away from a three-peat and being in the conversation for the second-best team of the 80s so short of having a time machine and changing a call they did everything they could've done with thier talent and play style. Most teams wish they had that type of "stunted growth". If we're going to do teams we should look more at the non-champions like the 2000s Hawks, 90s Lions, 2010s Pacers, 2000s Vikings, and teams like that. 90+ percent of individual teams will never see one ring. Let alone have carry over for 2 and 3 finals appearances.
Facts bro. Stunted growth about teams should be the ones that didn’t win at all after being so close in multiple conference finals and finals appearances like the Buffalo Bills not winning the Super Bowl for 4 straight years or something like that. Pistons stunted growth not really due to their injuries, David Stern, the media, and the league itself wanted Michael Jordan and the Bulls to be the next dynasty.
@@cadecrusader Exactly. Stunted growth should be for the almost champions. I'd have more interest in the Lions of the 90s stunted growth than the 80s Pistons if we doing Detroit. I get this is mostly a basketball channel tho so i'd take the 90s Knicks
Nah, everybody hated them. Magic & Bird kept Isiah off the Dream Team because he implied Magic got AIDS from being gay. Magic never forgave that until years later. Jordan/Pippen took all the blame though
@@FoxNewsChannelSux You do know that was a rumor, right? Isiah never said anything about Magic being gay. Though Magic had people telling him Isiah was spreading rumors. & yes, Magic said he was the one who kept him off the Dream Team but it was Jordan who said "if he's playing I'm not!" Okay?
@@DreMurf313 Magic & Bird said the same shit and they were older than Jordan. They didn't want Isiah around. Like you said, Magic admitted it. Magic & Isiah just squashed the beef a few years ago. It also wasn't a rumor, Jackie McMullen talked about in the Magic/Bird documentary how she asked Isiah about Magic's diagnosis & Isiah said "I don't know what Magic's doing out there in Hollywood", when she said to him, "You know Magic's not gay, right?".
Gotta do the fall of the bulls. Cause they did win 6 chips but their front office hated their own players and couldn't wait to end things. Which is fckn crazy
The reason why the Pistons left the court was because they felt disrespected when Jordan said before game 4 of 1991 EFC “Detroit is the worst city for champions and the NBA didn’t deserve them to be champions of the league”. The Pistons felt Jordan disrespected the city alongside with them
Lol but nobody talks about the Celtics walking off when the Pistons beat them lol they talk about the Pistons being thugs but the Celtics literally clotheslined Kurt Rambis in midair
It's crazy how Jordan spoke on the class of Detroit walking off the court but failed to mention when Boston did it to Detroit. Boston literally clotheslined players doing lay-ups
They were champions and they were getting hammered by the Pistons. We excuse it. The Pistons went to war with the Bulls for 3 years and couldn’t show class by setting the last minute and at least giving them a raised hand and then walking away?
@@KidGravityBeyond go back & look at The Bulls interviews prior to sweeping The Pistons. That's why The Pistons didn't congratulate them. Rightfully so.
@@terrancewoods3463 Thank you. I never bought any the hype around Chicago as a whole from the state of Illinois, to the city of Chicago down to its sports organizations. Those interviews were a microcosm of what Chicago stands for
As a Piston fan I get pissed thinking about the Pistons Vs Lakers 1988 NBA Finals. Pistons could’ve really been in the conversation with the Lakers and Celtics during the 80s run
Definitely should've been a 3peat..also who knows if they make the Finals the year before that if Zeke doesn't get the "steal by Bird, hands it off to DJ.." 🥺
Alot of "what-ifs". If the Pistons do beat the Lakers in 1988. How do we know they are hungry enough to win again in 1989? Also Pistons beat a Laker team in 1989 with an injured Byron Scott and Magic Johnson. Those two accounted for a good portion of their offense,
Larry and the celtics got off the court before the game ended vs Detroit too. But that's never mentioned. They don't hold that against Larry bird. And jordan did call Larry bird the second dirtiest player in the nba only behind lambeer. And no one mentions that. But they'll shit on isiah and the pistons
You forgot one major growth stunt, which was expansion. When the league expanded in '88 and '89, they forced The Pistons to give up some of their players in their rotation. They weren't as deep by '91
How is a team that plays in 3 Finals in a row winning 2 considered having Stunted Growth I have watched many of your programmes but this one is absurd!!
The Knicks is the team that technically ended the Pistons run. In the 92 1st round playoffs the Knicks beat the Pistons at their own game and the rest is history
@@g24deez by that time the Pistons were just a shell of themselves, no Vinnie Johnson, no James Edwards, hell Laimbeer was coming off the bench by then, the Knicks didn't beat them at their own game it was just time 🤷🏿♂️, they won their 2 rings.. Peace ✌🏿
@@eastsidereviews727 The Pistons lost because The Bulls were better that year. The Pistons got swept because Isiah was hurt AND Scottie Pippen finally grew a set of balls. Besides...Kareem played until he was 42 so age thing is overblown. The pistons were still a Top 5 team and their Top 3 players were all under 30.
Them boys weren't old age wise. But like my man said in the video the Pistons were the first team to pick you up at full court playing physically aggressive defense. During a time where teams played a half court set was unheard of. Then let's not forget the Pistons were offensively gifted as well. They were putting up over 100 pts easy. By the time their run was over The Pistons were worn out. Unlike in today's game where you can't touch the little guard dribbling the ball. You put Steph Curry back in the 80's & 90's with all that physicality. He never would've been the phenomenal shooter we know him as today.
They always bring up Isaiah and the Pistons didn’t shake the Bulls hands but they never bring up Bird and the Celtics doing the same exact thing to the Pistons.
Pistons probably had the best small guard combo…even tho I hated them I always respected Isiah and Joe being a tough small back court…Aguirre was the first person i seen shoot with no conscious I believe he created the heart check 🤣🤣🤣…Mann it’s sad cause you will never see a team put together like this again
arguably the best basketball player (at all levels) ever too in Kareem. Possibly the best defenders in Hakeem and Worm (and a young Gary Payton and Scottie Pippen)
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. I remember Portland getting NOTHING done, against the Pistons in those Finals. That was 1989-90, my junior year of high school, and one of the BEST years of my life.
The Pistons won with defense, half court execution, knowing how to control the clock, read mismatches, and milk the hot hand offensively while forcing opponents to do what they do worse and mentally wearing out opponents forcing them to quit.... The opponents couldn't contain themselves and compete. The truth is it was injuries that brought the Pistons down in 1990-91: Isiah Thomas missed 34 games with surgery on his wrist; then Thomas got injured in the 2nd round vs. Boston missing games 2 and 4 while coming off the bench the rest of the way.... Dumars played with an injured toe and groin; Salley/Edwards/Aguirre all had back problems but the Pistons fought through making it to the ECF still winning 50 games. Thomas only took 9 shots in game 1 and 9 shots in game 2 of the 1991 ECF.... Had #23 for Chicago only taken 9 shots in game 1 and 9 shots in game 2 the story would have been, 'What is wrong with Michael Jordan?'... It would have been a scandal, but with Thomas nobody asked anything because the corporate media didn't like the Pistons. Then what happened? The Pistons broke up their championship team by not re-signing Vinnie Johnson and James Edwards...so there was no chance at the Pistons getting revenge in 1991-92. There was a lot of politics associated with that Pistons/Bulls series, especially in 1990-91: Chuck Daly had just been named Olympic Team coach prior to the season, even though Riley had more rings. The Players, led by Isiah Thomas, President of the Player's Association, had a 53% share of revenue and the NBA just signed that NBC deal; Detroit was going for a 3-peat that season and they are beating Jordan every year which was sponsored by Hanes, Nike, McDonald's, etc... so the corporate investors in the NBA with Jordan's economic pull was a sure-win. Remember, Thomas was the one negotiating these deals, which is why in the mid 90's guys came in getting $40-60M guaranteed deals without playing -- that was due to what Thomas negotiated; so the global markets that were opened via the corporate investors in the NBA -- the Pistons were back-to-back champions then and they are beating the #1 money-maker for the league...so there's business and Jordan's basketball success at a championship level was total business -- there was only one team beating Jordan from 1988-1990; no other team beat Jordan when Jordan was healthy with a training camp and Jordan NEVER beat a healthy Pistons team in the playoffs. The overall record is: 1988 -- regular season 4-2 Pistons; playoffs 4-1 Pistons; 1989 -- regular season 6-0 Detroit; playoffs 4-2 Detroit; 1990 -- regular season 4-1 Detroit; playoffs 4-3 Pistons; 1991 -- regular season, 3-2 Chicago, 4-0 Chicago. So overall it was 28-16 Detroit over Chicago from 1988-1991. Then the Pistons broke up their championship team and couldn't get revenge by GM Jack McCloskey who was on the Olympic Team selection committee.
Damm bro. Great introduction!. You know you're N.B.A. history....almost as much as me. I loved the way you broke the '80s and early '90s into the v.h.s. Era...that's exactly what happened. Sounded like something I would've said...B.t.w stungth growth I thought was about Great college or Incredible player's that begun thier career only to have a momemental collapse both physically or mentally in the playoffs,regular season or a career ending injury or altercarion that effected thier career permittley, this really doesn't apply to the pistons of the 80s to early '90s they had a pretty long run especially in the grind it out physical Era that was absolutely brutal on the body they went as far as they possibly could go before all the physical and mental fatigue took effect. Jordan couldn't even contend into the rule changes in '90-91 season. So...not you're best episode thus far. This would've been more appropriate for a series called "end of dynasties or something".
@@terrancewoods3463 What is disrespect? Clotheslining someone? The Pistons did that. Isiah Thomas and the scumbags on that team are just PhDs in gaslighting. I'm glad I have just as many gold medals as he.
@@chrisdell5679 actually The Boston Celtics and LA Lakers played that type of basketball all thru the 80s. Let's not talk about the 70s(not that I was around to see). The NY Knicks played the exact same way. They just couldn't get past The Bulls. So basically, you just dislike The Pistons.
@@terrancewoods3463 The Celtics and Lakers played physical, not dangerous. You emulate their gaslighting techniques. I don't even care about The Pistons - they are nothing. They are just where they deserve to be in history - the middle child between the Lakers/Celtics and the Bulls.
Being from Detroit and growing up in that Era I can tell you first hand that the Bad Boys shit was a lifestyle that the city could completely embrace. The only thing I didn't care for was how they left the court without properly handing the reigns to The Bulls. It was a real movement though and it brought the city together.
6:30 How could Brad Daugherty and Bill Laimbeer co-exist with each other for multiple All-Star games after this? Shoves, pushes, even punches to the BODY are one thing. Punching someone in the HEAD and FACE, takes things and grudges to a WHOLE different level.
Great vid as always. Just one point that irks me a bit, and I noticed that sentiment in some other of your videos - since it was only normal for the Pistons to wear down physically after 5 years of deep playoff runs, how would Jordan "easily" win 10 had he not retired? I just don't see it. Even had they kept the #1 seed for 94 and 95, they'd still be looking at another grueling physical series vs the Knicks or Pacers each year at some point, which would be especially tough in '95 when they didn't have Horace or Dennis to bang with the Oakleys, Masons or the Davises down low. And after that they'd need to beat Hakeem twice, vs a Rockets team that they struggled with. You could tell that their '98 team was already battered down and pushed to the limit. Add two more deep runs before and there's just no way they make it to 8, let alone 9 or 10. I can see them still winning in '94 (a big maybe), but no way in '95. Nor them being so fired up and having the '96 they had if the '95 went differently than it did historically.
@@nonamewillbegiven so I'm a "nerd" or a "smooth brain" ? get your head out of Jordan's ass for a minute and try to think. it hurts, I know, but please try. Grant didn't leave because they got bounced in 94, he left because he wanted to get paid. either way, if you think fatigue wouldn't be a factor than you're even dumber than your comments suggest.
Lol...all these Pistons fans touched by this video. I hated the Pistons growing because they were str8 thugs on the court. When we played ball back in the day, everyone would try to hurt you when they saw how good you were and that's exactly the mindset of the Pistons. You think Stern couldn't see that? No one liked them, not just MJ. That team was hated equally across the league.
The hatred against the Pistons started during the 1986-87 because they were ambitious and broke the Bird-Magic media narrative that every NBA fans and casual viewers loved so much. Isiah was appreciated as long as he was beaten by the Celtics. But when he defended Rodman after his inappropriate remarks about Larry Bird, The Pistons were seen as the new vilains. And instead of lowering their pants for the fans & medias, they embraced that role!
I love your channel but this is a bad take. The Bad Boy Pistons won back to back NBA championships, a bad call away from a 3 peat, made it to 3 consecutive NBA Finals and 5 consecutive Eastern Conference Finals. How is that underachieving? Stunted growth on the Bad Boy Pistons but nothing of the Ewing Knicks, nor the Webber Kings, nor the Payton-Kemp Sonics..I don't get it!!! Changing subjects I would like to see stunted growth videos on Josh Childress, Hakim Warrick, Jerome Moiso and Chris Wilcox.
What??..STUNTED?..THE PISTONS?..naw y'all don't do that.this team was between two dynasties and still copped two..I understand in the annals of NBA history that the PISTONS won't praise them..but they were CHAMPIONS non the less...SALUTE THE PISTONS..ps...You better not let JALEN ROSE see this...lol
Dude, I love your channel. But you failed to say the real reason they walked off the court. Remember that press conference Jordan had being up 3 games to 0 & he totally disrespected the Pistons calling them "bad for basketball, Thugs on & off the court". & worst of all UNDERSERVING CHAMPIONS! It seems to me everybody gives Mike a pass for those tasteless comments about Detroit.
@@chrisdell5679 let me tell you something bro. I respect your opinion & all: NOBODY HAS EVER DISTESPECTED A SOON TO BE DETHRONED CHAMPION!!! Larry never did it, Magic never did it, Isiah never did it. Just because he's Michael Jordan doesn't mean he gets a free pass. Isiah has paid a heavy price for not kissing the imaginary rings of #23.
Would you rather he demolish his face akin to Karl Malone alone a few months later? People think MJ is petty but it seems Isiah and co. took an interview "personally." Instead of winning the next game and coming back from the series, they rolled over after throwing Pippen into the front row. The NBA got better when they were phased out, and I have no issue with what was said or how it was said. And I never will.
People that play dirty will never get any respect and that's why they are hardly credited. They targeted players in teams and tried to injure them or bait them to fights to get them ejected. In my opinion they tarnished basketball in the 80s.
On why Isiah is not on the 92 Olympic Dream Team: I believe the NBA was trying to show the World what NBA Basketball is, and Detroit's Isiah NOT a great representation of that.
@@ianosaurus27 Dude, that was a rumor- It always was. Isiah never said anything about Magic being gay. He wasn't on the Olympic Team because of Michael Jordan. & as far as "great representation" goes. Your telling me Charles Barkley who had a reputation for being out of control & beating people up & Karl Malone who gave Isiah himself 44 stitches were great representations of American Basketball? LMFAO🤣 GTFOH!
I Rick Mahorn got taken by the expansion Minnesota Timberwolves... Isiah had wrist career-ending on his right hand.... Bill Laimbeer foot was injured... And I believe they could have won 1 of those games before they got swept if Isiah wasn't in the way of Dennis Rodman checking Michael... And the NBA was trying to clean up the Pistons on every little touch file that they did
They never eliminated Magic and the Lakers. They eliminated the Lakers WITHOUT Magic. Detroit so called “bad boys” were a blip on the radar screen compared to Lakers, Celts, and Bulls.
The Pistons didn't happen in a bubble. The 76ers were the bad boys on the block in the early 80s, and the Celtics had to be meaner than them to beat them. When the Celtics became the bad boy, it look like they were going to be, the kings for the next 20 years, so the bad boys had to be the nastiest to get over that.
I speak for all of my fellow Detroitiers when I say we didn't walk off because we were sore losers. We walked off because, F*CK EM 😒 That's why. #BadBoys #DeeeeetroitBasketballlll
I didn't get into sports until 1991 when I was 11, so I just missed all this with the Pistons, but I'm glad I did. I've never liked the team, and everything I've heard about them from the 80s just cements that. I especially don't like Isaiah Thomas.
Yet The Celtics did the “Walk Off” to the Pistons before the Pistons did it to the Bulls for MJ disrespecting Detroit before Game 4. I still couldn’t stand The Pistons😂
This is some bullshit. The Pistons went to three Finals and won two. They played and beat THREE Dynastic teams by spacing, ball movement and just plain old school values. Before they became a hard nosed defensive team, they were one of the most exciting open court high scoring teams of all time. To simply dismiss them as "dirty boys" is silly. They were led by EASILY the toughest player to ever play in the NBA, Isiah Lord Thomas, who knuckled up, at 6-1, with some of the biggest enforcers of all time, Mahorn, Malone, Cartwright, McHale, Ainge, Rollins, Hot Rod Williams. He went to the paint with no fear, even when Malone opened up a gash that required 20 stitches on his face. He NEVER called his opponents dirty and never went to the commissioner and the media pleading for softer rules. This dude scored 29 points in a Finals QUARTER against the best defensive guard of the 80s, Michael Cooper on an ankle so swollen he could not run back down court, yet he suited up and played Game 7 until he couldn't stand. This dude scored 18 4th quarter points in Game 7 of the 1990 ECF, including posting up 6-6 Michael Jordan. He scored 16 points in 90 seconds to bring the Pistons back from a 10 point deficit with a minute left to send the 1984 Eastern Conference First round to overtime with a 3 pointer at the buzzer. This dude won the national title at Insiana under Knight and also stood up and knuckled up against the bully, Knight. He is EVERYTHING the media like you tried to build up that fictional hero, that fake tough guy Jordan, who NEVER ONCE swung a punch in an NBA game except against his own TEAMMATES in practice, to be. Please stop now!
The Lakers & Celtics were old teams with MANY miles,years on their bodies so the Pistons were primed to beat both just like when the Bulls beat the Pistons.
The Detroit Pistons deserve all of the credit that they should get. Someone like Isaiah Thomas, is easily the greatest little man to ever play basketball. Stephen Curry is arguably better than him, but still, I have that for Isaiah. Joe Dumars and him had one of the best NBA back courts of all time. The thing that really hurts them obviously was just how dirty they were, and not only that? Them not shaking the Chicago Bulls hands, leaves a stain on them because image wise, it comes off, like you’re gracious enough to except the handshakes when you win, but you don’t have the right amount of humility when you lose. They didn’t have small dirty tactics here and there like let’s say Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward did in boxing where they’d put you in a headlock, fight on the inside and hit you borderline low to the groin. They were like Bernard Hopkins and Evander Holyfield. Headbutting, low blows, Liverpool Kiss….just all around muddy waters. That’s why to this day, IT has to defend himself and his name against MJ. He doesn’t miss a moment to shit on Jordan but that’s really his fault.
Stunt 1 and only stunt:micheal jordan , micheal stunted a lot of players careers in the 90s. But damn Celtics 6 straight titles I don’t think we will ever see that again
If that's the case allow me right now to do a STUNTED GROWTH on The 91 Lakers, 92 Blazers, 93 Suns, 96 Sonics, 97 & 98 Jazz. Stunt #1 (or THE ONLY STUNT FOR EACH TEAM): MICHAEL JORDAN🤣
Bro this video was too biased in my opinion. People always cover those pistons teams incorrectly. They always paint them as dirty as if they punched and kicked their way to three straight finals appearances with two wins in that span. They passed the ball better than any team during that era and other than the warriors of now I can’t think of a team in the history of the game that moved the ball better or on the same level as them. But in order for the league to tell the story of Jordan being the hero they make Detroit and Isaiah Thomas out as the villains which is so unfortunate.
Good video. But the Pistons were just place holders. 89 they got quite lucky in the Finals. Lakers lose Byron and then lose Magic 🤯. They were awfully good in 89. Might have won anyway. Buuut I don’t think so. They had to beat the S-t out of MJ to win against the Bulls in 90. They were good. But they way they just dropped off sooo drastically.
@@GDCDGC truth And 💯….with Rick Mahorn leaving after the first Pistons bad boys NBA title, the Pistons won the NBA title in 1990….correct me if I’m wrong but the loss of Rick Mahorn after the 1989 NBA finals still hurt the Pistons deeply….
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The Bad Boy Pistons don't get enough credit for being able to stop the Lakers, Celtics and Michael Jordan in the 80s early 90s, and most of that is because of the display of sore losing, and their aggressive style of play. But they won back to back championships in the golden era. But that style was never built to last and who better than Jordan to end it. Either way salute to the legends.
True
I hated Detroit. I grew up in LA in the 80's. Loved my Showtime Lakers and was a hard core Michael Jordan fan.
I appreciate The Pistons now and they were glat out ROBBED in 1988
Truth be told they got robbed in 88… And in 87 if not for Zeke throwing the ball away they might’ve went a 4 peat. They were built to last just squandered two opportunities. One to no fault of they own.
@@wc6081 Agreed. Especially after The Pistons damn near sent Larry Bird to his grave on the play before.
The Pistons didn't really stop anybody. The dirty little secret on them was that they caught everyone at the right time: the Celtics and Lakers when they were either out of or very close to being past their prime, and the Bulls before they came into theirs.
The hypocritical thing is that the culture often tries to apply the same thing to the Bulls when they faced the Pistons themselves en route to beating the frankly revamped Lakers.
The thing is people don’t credit them is they were the first time team to have their own charter bus and plane; and the highest ratings in the 80s featured the Pistons! They were a blessing for the NBA 🏀
The Pistons' growth wasn't stunted... they maxed out and were replaced by another champion. Pretty much the natural life of all champions from one-timers to dynasties. They were a call away from a three-peat and being in the conversation for the second-best team of the 80s so short of having a time machine and changing a call they did everything they could've done with thier talent and play style. Most teams wish they had that type of "stunted growth". If we're going to do teams we should look more at the non-champions like the 2000s Hawks, 90s Lions, 2010s Pacers, 2000s Vikings, and teams like that. 90+ percent of individual teams will never see one ring. Let alone have carry over for 2 and 3 finals appearances.
Facts bro. Stunted growth about teams should be the ones that didn’t win at all after being so close in multiple conference finals and finals appearances like the Buffalo Bills not winning the Super Bowl for 4 straight years or something like that. Pistons stunted growth not really due to their injuries, David Stern, the media, and the league itself wanted Michael Jordan and the Bulls to be the next dynasty.
@@cadecrusader Exactly. Stunted growth should be for the almost champions. I'd have more interest in the Lions of the 90s stunted growth than the 80s Pistons if we doing Detroit. I get this is mostly a basketball channel tho so i'd take the 90s Knicks
@@k-ri2023 For sure the 90s Knicks, Sonics, Jazz, and other teams that fit the criteria.
Agreed
@@k-ri2023 my DETROIT TIGERS fit the bill perfectly
I say it ever since I learned about their history. The Bad Boys Era gets overlooked in NBA history because they would not kiss Jordan's ass!
Factz Jordan hated them because they competed against him and beat him more times than any other team....
Nah, everybody hated them. Magic & Bird kept Isiah off the Dream Team because he implied Magic got AIDS from being gay. Magic never forgave that until years later. Jordan/Pippen took all the blame though
@@FoxNewsChannelSux You do know that was a rumor, right? Isiah never said anything about Magic being gay. Though Magic had people telling him Isiah was spreading rumors. & yes, Magic said he was the one who kept him off the Dream Team but it was Jordan who said "if he's playing I'm not!" Okay?
@@DreMurf313 Magic & Bird said the same shit and they were older than Jordan. They didn't want Isiah around. Like you said, Magic admitted it. Magic & Isiah just squashed the beef a few years ago.
It also wasn't a rumor, Jackie McMullen talked about in the Magic/Bird documentary how she asked Isiah about Magic's diagnosis & Isiah said "I don't know what Magic's doing out there in Hollywood", when she said to him, "You know Magic's not gay, right?".
They get overlooked because they were a bunch of hacks who couldn't win fair
The crazy thing about the Bad Boys is that Dumars was the cleanest one of all the Pistons combined
Factzs but he got bizzy too!!!
Gotta do the fall of the bulls. Cause they did win 6 chips but their front office hated their own players and couldn't wait to end things. Which is fckn crazy
For real! Haven't even returned to the Finals since. And they're nowhere close to.
The reason why the Pistons left the court was because they felt disrespected when Jordan said before game 4 of 1991 EFC “Detroit is the worst city for champions and the NBA didn’t deserve them to be champions of the league”. The Pistons felt Jordan disrespected the city alongside with them
Lol but nobody talks about the Celtics walking off when the Pistons beat them lol they talk about the Pistons being thugs but the Celtics literally clotheslined Kurt Rambis in midair
@@marqueswilliams345 THANK YOU!!! But just like MJ, Larry Bird gets a gree pass!
It's about time someone tells the truth.
@@marqueswilliams345Like Rodman shoving Pippen head first?
It's crazy how Jordan spoke on the class of Detroit walking off the court but failed to mention when Boston did it to Detroit. Boston literally clotheslined players doing lay-ups
Thank you. That part always gets glossed over
They were champions and they were getting hammered by the Pistons. We excuse it.
The Pistons went to war with the Bulls for 3 years and couldn’t show class by setting the last minute and at least giving them a raised hand and then walking away?
@@KidGravityBeyond go back & look at The Bulls interviews prior to sweeping The Pistons.
That's why The Pistons didn't congratulate them. Rightfully so.
@@terrancewoods3463 Thank you. I never bought any the hype around Chicago as a whole from the state of Illinois, to the city of Chicago down to its sports organizations. Those interviews were a microcosm of what Chicago stands for
Well MJ stans don’t want to talk about dat💯mj is a god to the weirdo’s
As a Piston fan I get pissed thinking about the Pistons Vs Lakers 1988 NBA Finals. Pistons could’ve really been in the conversation with the Lakers and Celtics during the 80s run
Yep, Zeke would’ve had 3 rings and been the first to 3peat.
Definitely should've been a 3peat..also who knows if they make the Finals the year before that if Zeke doesn't get the "steal by Bird, hands it off to DJ.." 🥺
Refs w/questionable calls late in game 7. Haters
Right! BASICALLY won in ‘88. And only one of the most famous turnovers in history as they were right there in ‘87. Smh.
Alot of "what-ifs". If the Pistons do beat the Lakers in 1988. How do we know they are hungry enough to win again in 1989? Also Pistons beat a Laker team in 1989 with an injured Byron Scott and Magic Johnson. Those two accounted for a good portion of their offense,
Hounding defense you see today? Who? Where? We not watching the same nba. Everyone n they momma scoring 50 nowadays
I was thinking the same thing😭
Larry and the celtics got off the court before the game ended vs Detroit too. But that's never mentioned. They don't hold that against Larry bird. And jordan did call Larry bird the second dirtiest player in the nba only behind lambeer. And no one mentions that. But they'll shit on isiah and the pistons
Exactly. F**k Jordan & Chicago...from Bears to Blackhawks to Cubs & White Sox
PREACH!!!
The fans were storming the court. They had to get the heck out there
After listening to IT on The Pivot podcast, walking off made sense. They stood up for the entire city and I’m not mad at it.
They made the city look weak haha
You forgot one major growth stunt, which was expansion. When the league expanded in '88 and '89, they forced The Pistons to give up some of their players in their rotation. They weren't as deep by '91
Great point!
Good ass point! That's when we lost Rick Mahorn
No stunted growth on the bad boys 5 straight eastern conference final and 3 straight nba championships appearances with 2 titles
Joe Dumars was actually the nice guy of the group.
True. Played you straight up. Always tough, not dirty.
People for get Bill Laimbeer was like a 4 time all star before Patrick Ewing started taking his spot
How is a team that plays in 3 Finals in a row winning 2 considered having Stunted Growth I have watched many of your programmes but this one is absurd!!
In 1991-92, the Pistons were the #5 seed and the Knicks #4 seed.
Lol.. right
The Knicks is the team that technically ended the Pistons run. In the 92 1st round playoffs the Knicks beat the Pistons at their own game and the rest is history
@@g24deez by that time the Pistons were just a shell of themselves, no Vinnie Johnson, no James Edwards, hell Laimbeer was coming off the bench by then, the Knicks didn't beat them at their own game it was just time 🤷🏿♂️, they won their 2 rings.. Peace ✌🏿
@@g24deezthe Pistons' run ended in 91, not 92
One myth is that Detroit was old in 1991. That was not the case. Isiah was younger than Dame Lillard, Steph Curry AND Bradley Beal at the time.
True, but the game was a lot more physical and guys were more worn down by the time they got in their 30s.
@@eastsidereviews727 The Pistons lost because The Bulls were better that year. The Pistons got swept because Isiah was hurt AND Scottie Pippen finally grew a set of balls.
Besides...Kareem played until he was 42 so age thing is overblown. The pistons were still a Top 5 team and their Top 3 players were all under 30.
It was no Load Management back then. And the games were more intensed, including The All Star Games back then
@@terrancewoods3463 True. Watch the 80's All-star games, they played for real!
Them boys weren't old age wise. But like my man said in the video the Pistons were the first team to pick you up at full court playing physically aggressive defense. During a time where teams played a half court set was unheard of. Then let's not forget the Pistons were offensively gifted as well. They were putting up over 100 pts easy. By the time their run was over The Pistons were worn out.
Unlike in today's game where you can't touch the little guard dribbling the ball. You put Steph Curry back in the 80's & 90's with all that physicality. He never would've been the phenomenal shooter we know him as today.
If you’re doing teams you should do the Steve Nash & dirk Mavericks team
Don’t do The Worm like that😂
good video. i always felt in 92 they were still the bad boys, even up until 93, but after that it was a different energy
Damn 6:41 Laimbeer punch the mess out of Brad, and Isiah Thomas gripping him up from the back.
Undertaker Would've Chokeslammed Isiah Thomas And Gave Bill Laimbeer The Last Ride lmao
They always bring up Isaiah and the Pistons didn’t shake the Bulls hands but they never bring up Bird and the Celtics doing the same exact thing to the Pistons.
You're only parroting what you heard Isiah said. Stop trying to rewrite history goofy
No one else notice; when the Pistons beat the Celtics in the ‘88 conference finals, the Celtics didn’t shake the pistons hands. Soooo 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly! Folks always seem to forget that.
Could you do the 90's New York Knicks.
Pistons probably had the best small guard combo…even tho I hated them I always respected Isiah and Joe being a tough small back court…Aguirre was the first person i seen shoot with no conscious I believe he created the heart check 🤣🤣🤣…Mann it’s sad cause you will never see a team put together like this again
Vinnie Johnson had the Heat Check thing goin too..ultimate green light lol
Someone Please do a story on Ricky Pierce.
Wow that's a good one. I remember him being strictly a 6th man like Eddie Johnson but dude was a baller.
Bad Boys 4 Life!
The 80s had the best SG ever, the best SF ever(until LeBron) and the top 2 PGs ever(until Steph)
arguably the best basketball player (at all levels) ever too in Kareem. Possibly the best defenders in Hakeem and Worm (and a young Gary Payton and Scottie Pippen)
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American. I remember Portland getting NOTHING done, against the Pistons in those Finals. That was 1989-90, my junior year of high school, and one of the BEST years of my life.
Not that Dennis Rodman picture 💀💀💀
I loved watching and rooting for them back in the day
The Pistons won with defense, half court execution, knowing how to control the clock, read mismatches, and milk the hot hand offensively while forcing opponents to do what they do worse and mentally wearing out opponents forcing them to quit.... The opponents couldn't contain themselves and compete. The truth is it was injuries that brought the Pistons down in 1990-91: Isiah Thomas missed 34 games with surgery on his wrist; then Thomas got injured in the 2nd round vs. Boston missing games 2 and 4 while coming off the bench the rest of the way.... Dumars played with an injured toe and groin; Salley/Edwards/Aguirre all had back problems but the Pistons fought through making it to the ECF still winning 50 games. Thomas only took 9 shots in game 1 and 9 shots in game 2 of the 1991 ECF.... Had #23 for Chicago only taken 9 shots in game 1 and 9 shots in game 2 the story would have been, 'What is wrong with Michael Jordan?'... It would have been a scandal, but with Thomas nobody asked anything because the corporate media didn't like the Pistons. Then what happened? The Pistons broke up their championship team by not re-signing Vinnie Johnson and James Edwards...so there was no chance at the Pistons getting revenge in 1991-92. There was a lot of politics associated with that Pistons/Bulls series, especially in 1990-91: Chuck Daly had just been named Olympic Team coach prior to the season, even though Riley had more rings. The Players, led by Isiah Thomas, President of the Player's Association, had a 53% share of revenue and the NBA just signed that NBC deal; Detroit was going for a 3-peat that season and they are beating Jordan every year which was sponsored by Hanes, Nike, McDonald's, etc... so the corporate investors in the NBA with Jordan's economic pull was a sure-win. Remember, Thomas was the one negotiating these deals, which is why in the mid 90's guys came in getting $40-60M guaranteed deals without playing -- that was due to what Thomas negotiated; so the global markets that were opened via the corporate investors in the NBA -- the Pistons were back-to-back champions then and they are beating the #1 money-maker for the league...so there's business and Jordan's basketball success at a championship level was total business -- there was only one team beating Jordan from 1988-1990; no other team beat Jordan when Jordan was healthy with a training camp and Jordan NEVER beat a healthy Pistons team in the playoffs. The overall record is: 1988 -- regular season 4-2 Pistons; playoffs 4-1 Pistons; 1989 -- regular season 6-0 Detroit; playoffs 4-2 Detroit; 1990 -- regular season 4-1 Detroit; playoffs 4-3 Pistons; 1991 -- regular season, 3-2 Chicago, 4-0 Chicago. So overall it was 28-16 Detroit over Chicago from 1988-1991. Then the Pistons broke up their championship team and couldn't get revenge by GM Jack McCloskey who was on the Olympic Team selection committee.
great video sir keep it up 👍 the bad boy pistons were one of the greatest teams ever
Damm bro. Great introduction!. You know you're N.B.A. history....almost as much as me. I loved the way you broke the '80s and early '90s into the v.h.s. Era...that's exactly what happened. Sounded like something I would've said...B.t.w stungth growth I thought was about Great college or Incredible player's that begun thier career only to have a momemental collapse both physically or mentally in the playoffs,regular season or a career ending injury or altercarion that effected thier career permittley, this really doesn't apply to the pistons of the 80s to early '90s they had a pretty long run especially in the grind it out physical Era that was absolutely brutal on the body they went as far as they possibly could go before all the physical and mental fatigue took effect. Jordan couldn't even contend into the rule changes in '90-91 season. So...not you're best episode thus far. This would've been more appropriate for a series called "end of dynasties or something".
1:34.... It's Joe DUMARS.... Not dumaas like YOU said 🤣😂🤣😂
@stuntedgrowth so how was Detroit’s “sore losing” by walking off after game 4 in 1991 any different than the Celtics walk off in game 6 in 1988?
Because the Bulls congratulated them in 89 and 90. Reciprocate.
@@chrisdell5679 But the Bulls disrespected The Pistons prior to winning that 91 ECF. The Pistons were right to show them up.
@@terrancewoods3463 What is disrespect? Clotheslining someone? The Pistons did that. Isiah Thomas and the scumbags on that team are just PhDs in gaslighting. I'm glad I have just as many gold medals as he.
@@chrisdell5679 actually The Boston Celtics and LA Lakers played that type of basketball all thru the 80s. Let's not talk about the 70s(not that I was around to see). The NY Knicks played the exact same way. They just couldn't get past The Bulls.
So basically, you just dislike The Pistons.
@@terrancewoods3463 The Celtics and Lakers played physical, not dangerous. You emulate their gaslighting techniques.
I don't even care about The Pistons - they are nothing. They are just where they deserve to be in history - the middle child between the Lakers/Celtics and the Bulls.
Can you do a Sekou Doumboya stunted growth
I didn't mind the walkoff. There was plenty of bad blood and the league was rigged against them.
The Celtics did the same thing to them something people forget
@@paulkiffer8639 No they did not.
@@thedoranwilliamsshow6863 They did: 1988 ECF Final, Game 6
Just reading the title let's me know a Jordan guy is in charge.
🎯 yea the hate is different with this
Y'all mad
Nope I'm not mad, but I love how every narrative now is trying to make Jordan the more human guy.
@@jamesbeachem2003 you mad
Being from Detroit and growing up in that Era I can tell you first hand that the Bad Boys shit was a lifestyle that the city could completely embrace. The only thing I didn't care for was how they left the court without properly handing the reigns to The Bulls. It was a real movement though and it brought the city together.
The downfall of the bad boys please stop 🤧🤦🏿♂️
JC I love your buttery smooth voice it rivals Jimmy high roller
Rick Mahorn Hartford’s Finest!
6:30 How could Brad Daugherty and Bill Laimbeer co-exist with each other for multiple All-Star games after this? Shoves, pushes, even punches to the BODY are one thing. Punching someone in the HEAD and FACE, takes things and grudges to a WHOLE different level.
The NBA was so violent in the 80's
Great vid as always.
Just one point that irks me a bit, and I noticed that sentiment in some other of your videos - since it was only normal for the Pistons to wear down physically after 5 years of deep playoff runs, how would Jordan "easily" win 10 had he not retired? I just don't see it.
Even had they kept the #1 seed for 94 and 95, they'd still be looking at another grueling physical series vs the Knicks or Pacers each year at some point, which would be especially tough in '95 when they didn't have Horace or Dennis to bang with the Oakleys, Masons or the Davises down low. And after that they'd need to beat Hakeem twice, vs a Rockets team that they struggled with.
You could tell that their '98 team was already battered down and pushed to the limit. Add two more deep runs before and there's just no way they make it to 8, let alone 9 or 10. I can see them still winning in '94 (a big maybe), but no way in '95. Nor them being so fired up and having the '96 they had if the '95 went differently than it did historically.
So he wins 10. Thanks for confirming nerd
And what makes you think Grant would leave or Rodman would join smooth brain?
And the Rockets ain't hanging with Chicago in the finals. It's not the regular season smooth brain
@@nonamewillbegiven so I'm a "nerd" or a "smooth brain" ?
get your head out of Jordan's ass for a minute and try to think. it hurts, I know, but please try.
Grant didn't leave because they got bounced in 94, he left because he wanted to get paid.
either way, if you think fatigue wouldn't be a factor than you're even dumber than your comments suggest.
You should do the Rick Pitino-led failure of the Boston Celtics. Also the end of the Showtime Era Lakers. Just being fair.
Love the channel but you missed on this and still on the false narratives. Can we get an episode of the REAL impact of the Pistons and Isiah!🙏🏾
He missed…..BADLY!! I don’t think i will watch Stunted Growth again he is a gimp to me now
fun fact: VINNIE JOHNSON is the richest former BAD BOY, with a net worth around 410 million
How was he able to earn that much?
@@GDCDGC his company distributes auto parts
@@BadTV1993 good for him. He was able to save and invest his money after he retired. Unlike other athletes who became broke.
The Era in the 80s and 90s was the best basketball ever. The Era now is soft due to the rule changes in the nba
The top 5 dirtiest players in NBA history: The Bad Boy Pistons starting 5.
You should do trey burke
They also lost Rick Mahorn by not protecting him in the Timberwolves expansion draft
Lol...all these Pistons fans touched by this video. I hated the Pistons growing because they were str8 thugs on the court. When we played ball back in the day, everyone would try to hurt you when they saw how good you were and that's exactly the mindset of the Pistons. You think Stern couldn't see that? No one liked them, not just MJ. That team was hated equally across the league.
Haha I know right.
U jus soft😂
@@1987wi I grew up playing ball in the 80's and 90s. Who's soft?
& Boston wasnt beating the crap out of players in the garden? Go to Boston & get beat up PLUS called a racial slur lol..the REAL thugs
The hatred against the Pistons started during the 1986-87 because they were ambitious and broke the Bird-Magic media narrative that every NBA fans and casual viewers loved so much. Isiah was appreciated as long as he was beaten by the Celtics. But when he defended Rodman after his inappropriate remarks about Larry Bird, The Pistons were seen as the new vilains. And instead of lowering their pants for the fans & medias, they embraced that role!
I love your channel but this is a bad take. The Bad Boy Pistons won back to back NBA championships, a bad call away from a 3 peat, made it to 3 consecutive NBA Finals and 5 consecutive Eastern Conference Finals. How is that underachieving? Stunted growth on the Bad Boy Pistons but nothing of the Ewing Knicks, nor the Webber Kings, nor the Payton-Kemp Sonics..I don't get it!!! Changing subjects I would like to see stunted growth videos on Josh Childress, Hakim Warrick, Jerome Moiso and Chris Wilcox.
Winning in 88 doesn't guarantee 89 and 90 smooth brain
Well,... It's quite obvious who your favorite player is!
I also, Michael Jordan was also upset because during an All-Star game in the 80s, Isaiah Thomas and other players froze him out of that game.
What??..STUNTED?..THE PISTONS?..naw y'all don't do that.this team was between two dynasties and still copped two..I understand in the annals of NBA history that the PISTONS won't praise them..but they were CHAMPIONS non the less...SALUTE THE PISTONS..ps...You better not let JALEN ROSE see this...lol
Do Devante Schuler
Screw Jordan . Bad Boys for life
Dude, I love your channel. But you failed to say the real reason they walked off the court. Remember that press conference Jordan had being up 3 games to 0 & he totally disrespected the Pistons calling them "bad for basketball, Thugs on & off the court". & worst of all UNDERSERVING CHAMPIONS! It seems to me everybody gives Mike a pass for those tasteless comments about Detroit.
Dude worships Mike.. he'll never hold him accountable
Go back and watch the 91 ECF. It was especially dirty. He had every right to say what was true.
@@chrisdell5679 let me tell you something bro. I respect your opinion & all: NOBODY HAS EVER DISTESPECTED A SOON TO BE DETHRONED CHAMPION!!!
Larry never did it, Magic never did it, Isiah never did it. Just because he's Michael Jordan doesn't mean he gets a free pass. Isiah has paid a heavy price for not kissing the imaginary rings of #23.
Would you rather he demolish his face akin to Karl Malone alone a few months later? People think MJ is petty but it seems Isiah and co. took an interview "personally." Instead of winning the next game and coming back from the series, they rolled over after throwing Pippen into the front row. The NBA got better when they were phased out, and I have no issue with what was said or how it was said. And I never will.
Lakers should have won 4 in the 80s. That foul call for Kareem was the NBA doing their part for the Lakers.
9:19 "5th Seed" & 9:21 "4th Seed"
People that play dirty will never get any respect and that's why they are hardly credited. They targeted players in teams and tried to injure them or bait them to fights to get them ejected. In my opinion they tarnished basketball in the 80s.
On why Isiah is not on the 92 Olympic Dream Team: I believe the NBA was trying to show the World what NBA Basketball is, and Detroit's Isiah NOT a great representation of that.
Dude, that was Jordan! He said he wouldn't play if Isiah was selected. So, they really had no choice.
@@DreMurf313 same can be said about Magic, who felt betrayed by Isiah regarding Magic's HIV situation
@@ianosaurus27 Dude, that was a rumor- It always was. Isiah never said anything about Magic being gay. He wasn't on the Olympic Team because of Michael Jordan.
& as far as "great representation" goes. Your telling me Charles Barkley who had a reputation for being out of control & beating people up & Karl Malone who gave Isiah himself 44 stitches were great representations of American Basketball? LMFAO🤣 GTFOH!
I can’t take Jordan fans serious when it comes to Isiah & the bad boys 😂
Cause you're salty about Jordan
Can you do a video on Julian Newman’s growth was stunted?
He has one weirdo
He never grew.
@@GDCDGC 😆 🤣 factz
@@ijayrizzy3116 everything about him did not grow - physically, his game and his attitude
@@Blackkasaurus piss off
I Rick Mahorn got taken by the expansion Minnesota Timberwolves... Isiah had wrist career-ending on his right hand.... Bill Laimbeer foot was injured... And I believe they could have won 1 of those games before they got swept if Isiah wasn't in the way of Dennis Rodman checking Michael... And the NBA was trying to clean up the Pistons on every little touch file that they did
Yawn with your excuses. They won in 1990 without Mahorn now did they?
Bill Laimbeer still salty 30 years later lmao
They never eliminated Magic and the Lakers. They eliminated the Lakers WITHOUT Magic. Detroit so called “bad boys” were a blip on the radar screen compared to Lakers, Celts, and Bulls.
10:20 is hysterical 🤣🤣🤣
They ended not one but two dynasties and still people crying about a handshake 30 years later as an excuse not to acknowledge how great they were…
Look at you crying. It wasn't about no hand shake
"He could have easily won ten championships" 😂😂
Someone's salty
How Is a team stunted when they won 2 rings??? 🤷🏿♂️🤔🙄
I wonder why the did not contend after 91. Most of their core was pretty young by todays standards..
Crazy thing is Boston was more dirty then Detroit and they bust to walk off the court too
Nope
@@nonamewillbegiven they didn’t shake ppl hands
@@lamargettens2370 this ain't hand shakes slowpoke
@@lamargettens2370 this ain't about hand shakes smooth brain
The Detroit Pistons won two chips and no one can or will take their great run from them. Taught the Bulls how to win and win they did-6-0 chips.
The Pistons didn't happen in a bubble.
The 76ers were the bad boys on the block in the early 80s, and the Celtics had to be meaner than them to beat them.
When the Celtics became the bad boy, it look like they were going to be, the kings for the next 20 years, so the bad boys had to be the nastiest to get over that.
Teams walked off the floor prior to the Pistons doing it...the narrative is wrong. It wasn't a big deal. It was 80s basketball
91 isn't the 80s and the Pistons walked off on their home court. Nice try
I speak for all of my fellow Detroitiers when I say we didn't walk off because we were sore losers. We walked off because, F*CK EM 😒 That's why. #BadBoys #DeeeeetroitBasketballlll
Ironic the 72-10 Bulls, Half of them were the Bad Boys
3 isn't half of them
Isaiah said why they left the floor.. go watch again…🤷🏾♂️
I didn't get into sports until 1991 when I was 11, so I just missed all this with the Pistons, but I'm glad I did. I've never liked the team, and everything I've heard about them from the 80s just cements that. I especially don't like Isaiah Thomas.
The pistons did that to everyone!!
Yet The Celtics did the “Walk Off” to the Pistons before the Pistons did it to the Bulls for MJ disrespecting Detroit before Game 4.
I still couldn’t stand The Pistons😂
No they didnt
All Detroit did was disrespect the Bulls. You sound like a Pistons homer
God I hated them! I was so glad Chicago whooped their ass and ended their run!
The Celtics did act same thing to them and no one mentions that.
No they didnt
This is some bullshit. The Pistons went to three Finals and won two. They played and beat THREE Dynastic teams by spacing, ball movement and just plain old school values. Before they became a hard nosed defensive team, they were one of the most exciting open court high scoring teams of all time. To simply dismiss them as "dirty boys" is silly. They were led by EASILY the toughest player to ever play in the NBA, Isiah Lord Thomas, who knuckled up, at 6-1, with some of the biggest enforcers of all time, Mahorn, Malone, Cartwright, McHale, Ainge, Rollins, Hot Rod Williams. He went to the paint with no fear, even when Malone opened up a gash that required 20 stitches on his face. He NEVER called his opponents dirty and never went to the commissioner and the media pleading for softer rules. This dude scored 29 points in a Finals QUARTER against the best defensive guard of the 80s, Michael Cooper on an ankle so swollen he could not run back down court, yet he suited up and played Game 7 until he couldn't stand. This dude scored 18 4th quarter points in Game 7 of the 1990 ECF, including posting up 6-6 Michael Jordan. He scored 16 points in 90 seconds to bring the Pistons back from a 10 point deficit with a minute left to send the 1984 Eastern Conference First round to overtime with a 3 pointer at the buzzer. This dude won the national title at Insiana under Knight and also stood up and knuckled up against the bully, Knight. He is EVERYTHING the media like you tried to build up that fictional hero, that fake tough guy Jordan, who NEVER ONCE swung a punch in an NBA game except against his own TEAMMATES in practice, to be. Please stop now!
Trolll
Cry harder
The Lakers & Celtics were old teams with MANY miles,years on their bodies so the Pistons were primed to beat both just like when the Bulls beat the Pistons.
The Detroit Pistons deserve all of the credit that they should get. Someone like Isaiah Thomas, is easily the greatest little man to ever play basketball. Stephen Curry is arguably better than him, but still, I have that for Isaiah. Joe Dumars and him had one of the best NBA back courts of all time. The thing that really hurts them obviously was just how dirty they were, and not only that? Them not shaking the Chicago Bulls hands, leaves a stain on them because image wise, it comes off, like you’re gracious enough to except the handshakes when you win, but you don’t have the right amount of humility when you lose.
They didn’t have small dirty tactics here and there like let’s say Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward did in boxing where they’d put you in a headlock, fight on the inside and hit you borderline low to the groin. They were like Bernard Hopkins and Evander Holyfield. Headbutting, low blows, Liverpool Kiss….just all around muddy waters. That’s why to this day, IT has to defend himself and his name against MJ. He doesn’t miss a moment to shit on Jordan but that’s really his fault.
Stunt 1 and only stunt:micheal jordan , micheal stunted a lot of players careers in the 90s. But damn Celtics 6 straight titles I don’t think we will ever see that again
If that's the case allow me right now to do a STUNTED GROWTH on The 91 Lakers, 92 Blazers, 93 Suns, 96 Sonics, 97 & 98 Jazz.
Stunt #1 (or THE ONLY STUNT FOR EACH TEAM): MICHAEL JORDAN🤣
Then nobody never talks about the phantom call n the finals in 88 their was no foul nobody talk about these thing they took a championship from us
Bro this video was too biased in my opinion. People always cover those pistons teams incorrectly. They always paint them as dirty as if they punched and kicked their way to three straight finals appearances with two wins in that span. They passed the ball better than any team during that era and other than the warriors of now I can’t think of a team in the history of the game that moved the ball better or on the same level as them. But in order for the league to tell the story of Jordan being the hero they make Detroit and Isaiah Thomas out as the villains which is so unfortunate.
They were dirty
Cry some more
The fact they embraced being the Bad Boys makes your comment redundant
Them passing the ball pales in comparison to the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls and the Warriors also pales in their comparison as well. Smooth brain
Good video. But the Pistons were just place holders. 89 they got quite lucky in the Finals. Lakers lose Byron and then lose Magic 🤯. They were awfully good in 89. Might have won anyway. Buuut I don’t think so. They had to beat the S-t out of MJ to win against the Bulls in 90. They were good. But they way they just dropped off sooo drastically.
😂😂😂mans running out of content ain't it?
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Lol 10 chips.. chill out😂
Another stunt that should’ve been added was James Edwards and Vinnie Johnson leaving during the 1991 off season……
Plus - rick mahorn leaving the team because of the expansion draft
@@GDCDGC truth And 💯….with Rick Mahorn leaving after the first Pistons bad boys NBA title, the Pistons won the NBA title in 1990….correct me if I’m wrong but the loss of Rick Mahorn after the 1989 NBA finals still hurt the Pistons deeply….
@@beezy22 you are right.
@@GDCDGC 👍