Bad Boy Piston Players Talk about Michael Jordan
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Get an insider perspective on what the Bad Boy Piston players really thought and think about Michael Jordan. This compilation of interviews reveals their true feelings about the basketball legend. Those feelings and perspectives vary greatly. Subscribe, like, and share to show your support!
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Joe Dumars is class!!!
So is Isiah.
MICROWAVE!
The angriest I’ve seen him was when he got in Danny Ainge’s face for a split second. Ainge tried to provoke him then too. Then they were shaking hands less than a few seconds later 😄
Ahh because he was nice to mj lmao
Class Personified!! Great player
I’m here for Joe Dumars. Was a very underrated scorer. Class act. 👌
He's overall underrated. He was burriws under the Isiah Thomas controversies and the bad boy pistons image
Also 1 of the Top Perimeter defenders & Top/Pure shooters in the Nba.
Isaiah and joe are one of my all time favorite backcourt duos.
Rodman and Dumars straight respect
Aguirre also!
Joe Dumars was all Class and the most underrated Piston, during the Era...
80’s and 90’s basketball was the best
Fact💯🏆
It was not. Why you think the nba change the rules. Because rating was low as hell.
@@slapjones1959 wrong, it was way better
@@slapjones1959 woah what a big gat lie, you wanna talk lies on Jordan years ratings
Oh my goodness lambeer’s feelings were hurt.
He give me racist vibes
@@ceo469 I feel like if he was racist, Isiah, Joe Dumars and the other guys on the Pistons would've picked up on it. He just is very bitter and hateful towards ANYBODY who wasn't part of his team. He hates Larry Bird to this day too.
Lambeer can't get over with, man.
Laimbeer whoop that a$$.
He was correct that the media should not give opinions on their personalitirs for their style of play.
Joe Dumars has always been a classy guy. He was really the only player I liked on the Pistons.
So was Zeek.
@@timhoward5 Articulate yes. Classy...I'm not so sure.
For the love of the game you had to like zeke
@@dougefresh8029 I liked his game, but I didn't like HIM.
@@nunyabusiness7927despite what you’ve heard about him have you met him personally or has he personally harmed you? Can you personally verify anything that’s been said about him? How i view athletes for what it’s worth is unless there is concrete evidence and there act is so heinous(Karl Malone) Darren sharper) Types. I simply judge their game at their sport.
Joe Dumars is a legend with deep respect
0:45 Joe Dumars
2:13 Bill Laimbeer
3:38 Dennis Rodman
4:26 Mark Aguirre
7:00 John Salley
10:26 Rick Mahorn
11:18 Isaiah Thomas
What happened to my man BUDDA?! Im sure he had plenty to say!😮😢😅
My dad called him Dennis, " Rotten~man "
Rick Mahorn “I ain’t watching no last dance! I got kids! I was watchin’ movies I haven’t seen in a long time!
Last time I was playing in a Detroit Pistons jersey I whipped that ass!” 😂😂😂😂 ☠️
Lambier is a true hater , Dumars kept it 💯
Laimbeer lowkey hating comment sounded racist.
@@larryg1481 you sound stupid, what is a racist ?
@@larryg1481you reaching fasho
He's not a hater he just keeps it real
Dirty player.
You did a great job with this video. It brings back a lot of memories as a 52 yo Southside of Chicago native.
Wow Thank You. Im so glad I was able to do that for You. I appreciate the kind words.
@TheNBAGoat something about Detroit Basketball love it but our rivalry with Chicago is deep I'm Canadian today but Detroit is also a sports city just like Chicago and this causes them to butt heads a lot
Pretty funny that Bill Laimbeer talks better about Jordan than Pippen does today.
RIP to friendship 😢
Bill Laimbeer is still an ass.
He also talks better about Jordan than most LeBron fans do too
He also talks better about Jordan than most LeBron fans do too
"I made it easy for Michael Jordan to be in Chicago"
Zeke talking like he's Al Capone, Lol
I mean he was the reigning best player from Chicago but he did come off like Zeke Corleone right there 😂
Jordan would've been just fine Zeke...😂😂😂
Of Chicago lolololololol
Zeke was jealous of MJ because Chi-town LOVED MJ more than him.
@@RemoWilliams1227 hahaha, true
Mahorn got no chill! That killed me. xD
Lamebeer is a clown
He is.
He's the whole circus 🎪
parrish the chief gave lambeer a gift that all little children asked santa to bring........lambeer went down like a xmas tree//////.......larry birds fav xmas present//////
A clown who was 3-1 vs MJ
And thst clown beat Michael Jordan
As Salley put it, the Bad Boys are in large part what created the monster that was Michael Jordan. Also the only team to defeat Jordan/Bulls, Bird/Celtics and Magic/Lakers in the same year. As we all know the Celtics and Lakers teams were unbelievably stacked as well. Love them or hate them the Bad Boys are one of the most iconic teams in NBA history. Let's not forget about that phantom foul (which Riley later admitted to) called on Laimbeer in the '88 finals. They should have three straight championships. They were also interesting because while Isiah had the brightest spotlight, they were a very balanced team with any number of players being able to be high scorer on an evening and the scoring distribution was usually fairly dispersed amongst the team. They defined a "team."
This bro. Most these dudes on here don’t remember how bad ass that Detroit team was. And agree about the three peat! That team was being dismantled in that third year anyways.
Great points!
Pistons should've been 3 peat or even 4 peat champs in '87, '88, '89, and '90. By '91 it was over. Isiah hurt his wrist and wasn't the same. '91 was a good team but they were a shell of their selves from the previous 3-4 years. The '87 team was really good too, definitely better than the '91 team. Think about it. The '87 team also had a very good chance at getting to the Finals against the Lakers. If Bird doesn't steal the ball and all that miraculous garbage, Pistons are in the Finals
This is real talk, but it wasn’t just the Bad Boys who helped create MJ. Several factors went into creating that monster:
(1) Larry Jordan
(2) The hs coach who cut him
(3) Dean Smith (R.I.P.)
(4) Dr. J, D. Thompson, and W. Davis
(5) The Bad Boys
(6) Phil Jackson
(7) The Celtics
(8) The Shaq-Penny Magic
(9) The Patrick Ewing Knicks
(10) A string of elite defenders, specifically:
Sidney Moncrief
Dennis Johnson (R.I.P.)
Dennis Rodman
Gary Payton
Iron sharpens iron. Every one of the people listed above helped MJ become what he was, or sharpened him for his second three-peat.
Bird didnt even play that series and magic got hurt🙄
I have a hard time feeling bad about that phantom foul, not gonna lie. If ever there was a team most deserving of getting screwed by the refs, it was the Bad Boy Pistons. I have a hard time feeling bad for Bill Laimbeer in general. He was a way better player than a lot of people remember, but he'll always be known as a thug. He did it to himself too.
Salley is a Class Act. He's Honest about his opinion & stands by what he says
You can clearly tell who are just angry ass haters and who are being honest
Tell us all how we can tell???
Anything that comes out of Laimbeer mouth, fuck Laimbeer
THE BETTER DAYS OF NBA.
Rodman, Dumars, Salley, and Aguirre was straight up respect!
Sally I am sorry but lambier was dirty and cheep he was the only piston player who tried to hurt the other team instead of outplaying them.
Rodman, Edwards, and Mahorn weren’t dirty? I totally respect the Pistons for what they did in the age of super teams, but those 3 plus Laimbeer not only stretched the rules, but they weren’t afraid of getting in foul trouble either because the bench was so deep and all players except Rodman and Mahorn were good foul shooters
The rest of the Pistons gave hard fouls but Laimbeer tried to hurt people. There was a difference
Jordan got exactly what he deserved. He got his ass beat his first 7 years. Then he and the Bulls won 6 titles. Like Mark said if Jordan WASN'T a part of the Dream TEAM. Isaiah would have been on that TEAM. Not everyone likes Jordan and not everyone thinks he is the greatest player ever!!!!!
*Cheap
@@HasanMustafaa-en1tj yeah and everyone didn’t like Isiah either so what’s your point?
Zeke is like I am not a killer but don't push me!😂
As a Lifelong Bulls fan, I have to say = Joe Dumars for President!!!
I'm Pistons fan and i can say u...
I love more 2000+ Pistons then the Bad Boys bec Pistons with Ben, Big Shot, Pallace Prince, Sheed and Rip was DOPE... those players was GOOD players but when all come to Detroit they all got resurected and born again. - Sheed was alredy great and look like a Piston even in Portland. That team was GREATEST D TEAM EVER...
Pistons 2000+ beat all records Bad Boys did with clean D :)
In Bad Boys i only respecy Joe, Mr. Thomas and Rick Mahorn(Rick was preaty smart in D in post), Bill?? I don't even know whay we have him soo long...
Lambier and Isiah always the two that can't let it go.
How you figure that when it was Jordan who mention him and was disresoectful ti him
Bill until now ur still a sour loser, 2:27 yes LeBron James involves his teammates bec he is a cunning GM he juggles and manipulates team owners, coaches and teammates all for his glory, when the team wins he is the sole reason, when the team loses everybody is to blame but him, count how many coaches got sacked bec of him, how many teammates he throw under the bus when he loses or when things doesn't go his way? And Bill have some accountability too for heaven's sake, u maimed and mangle MJ every night like no other team can compare and is so vocal and proud of it and celebrate after, and u expect the guy to tell his fans and the whole world that ur game is good and ur way is good for the game? come on that's the consequence of ur action u'r accountable for it too, why didn't u play in football or rugby or mma then? And man we know that MJ is far from perfect human being but u are far from an angel too Mr. Isaiah Thomas, don't hide some facts too bec we can see that there is more to this beef than that u are willing to divulge so don't be a sly and play honest saint man this display will only bite u back, ask ur nephew man.
Well, if Isiah was so close with Michael and his family! Saw what his team put Michael through to win!
Of course, Michael expected him especially to congratulate him after he moved to the finals!
And he didn't, he deserved that criticism!
Exactly. If he was so close with MJ and his fam, he would walk off without congratulating MJ? Such BS rhetoric and backpedaling.
Laimbeer was a flat out dirty player!
He definitely was, it was as much psychological as it was physical every dirty play he ever made was like a chess move.
Nah. He's a BACK2BACK Champion.
@no4493 do rings exclude someone from being considered "Dirty"? Draymond Green has 4 rings, try to tell me he isn't a dirty player.
Still the play offs against the Pistons were dope😉
It took multiple Pistons playing dirty (elbows, punches, tackles...) to defeat 1 player...that's how good MJ was...the Pistons won early on because it was MJ vs 5 Pistons...individually MJ outplayed them all even if the Pistons got the W early on.
They actually had to come up with " RULES " to Slow him down it still was 3 & 4 Men Pulling One (1) Single Guy out the Air.
Who gives a fck wht Zeke or Lambeer says bcse their biggest problem is tht they LOST & NOT JUST LOST THEIR ASS GOT SWEPT
Hey look someone who wasn't even alive commenting on the times. League gave Mike flagrant fouls after Mike bitched to the newspapers that Detroit was out to hurt him. Funny enough even after all those games and 3 straight playoffs, he was never injured by a team featuring 3 dirty defenders.
@andrewcook1246 and I guess thts supposed to wht make them " WHT " plz tell me bcse if 2 to 3 men are pulling him out the Air but hey I guess thts good a good thing.
@andrewcook1246 I'm 48 and was most certainly alive...grew up watching Magic, Bird, Jordan then Kobe, Shaq, and so on to now...I lived the past several basketball generations and attended live or watched the games on tv live...NOT just relied on TH-cam clips...and having actually watched these people play, the eye test says MJ is the goat easily..you don't even have to dig into stats (MJ would still come out on top)...your eyes told you in real time...
@@andrewcook1246u obviously wasn't alive lil fella because in da 90s the league were just as physical.
Also former coaches and players all admit to the JORDAN RULES lol.
Nice try though. When u REACH I TEACH lil fella
Honestly, I believe Michael Jordan would have been able to walk anywhere in Chicago without you because they love them
He was talking about when MJ first got there and nobody knew him. Different ball game back then.
@@slarsp2 The arena was already packed by the third game of Michael’s rookie season because of him. 😂
@@cudackedees3327 of course but the hood didn't know him yet where he could go threw without checkin in.
@@slarsp2 why would he be at the hood? Is that a black thing? he doesn’t even drink at the time. Zack has to actively trying his way out to screw him then 😂
You're WRONG! MJ did, in fact get robbed while walking the streets in Chi-town. They even made him sign his shoes after they took them off him. Isaiah Thomas actually helped MJ afterwards so he could freely walk then on. Bill Russell is the NBA GOAT by the way.
If you ever watched the All-Star games, IT & MJ were the perfect duo. Just imagine if they played on the same team
well so glad they weren't in the same team.. Think about MJ with Shaq then. lol
They could've been the greatest backcourt in NBA history.
To your point too.....
Watching MJ and Reggie Miller play together in the All-Star game, or games, was just absolutely unreal.
Away from the All-Star game, they went at each other's throats, but seeing them play together, was just on a level that is hard to even imagine.
The skilled players that MJ and Reggie are is one thing, but their smarts about the game, too--and then playing together--was just incredible.
Great video! I was a massive Pistons fan in the 80s and 90s.
But MJ is the greatest, fo’ rheelz!!! 🐐
No doubt. Thank You
Jordan is the goat like the Great l a t e Chuck Daly said Jordan was so good he was embarrassing the whole league
Got embarrassed by zeke tho 🥱
Then embarrassed zeke by sweeping, even zeke admitted he was never swept @andresdelportillo9917
@@mscottlawrence2037 exactly Big Homie
@@victormartin3539 my man 👍🏀
@@mscottlawrence2037 zeke was also injured only healthy player was dumars
There favorite subject they love him either hate him but deep down much respect for both side
Isaiah Thomas. Real one. 💯💯
They try to single Jordan out but the the league hated the pistons lol. This why IT was kept off the dream team by “Magic Johnson” Bird didn’t want him playing either lol.
Mark Aguirre is respected in Chicago as well. Grew up there (as did Isaiah) and played on the Depaul (in Chicago) team that lost by two to Bird’s ISU team in the Final Four. His teammate was Gary Garland-Dionne Warwick’s godson and Whitney Houston’s half-brother. Number 1 pick in his draft, and I think Isaiah went behind him, followed by Cartright to the Bulls.
Whatever Lambeer has to say is irrrelevant you were trash as a player and all you did was play dirty … MJ is Goat … end of discussion
celtics the chief parrish done put lambeer in the trash can head first............what a day that was the chief took out the garbage that day//////////
These Detroit Pistons from this era was a hell of a team, these bad boys were fun to watch.............I missed these days , at the end MJ did win 6 rings anyway,
That's because he beat his friends and when Mahorn left the Pistons in 90 that was the end of the BAD BOYS . Meaning Jordan never beat the BAD BOYS he went to the gym was a bunch of bs .
@@gew2027 true and Isiah Tomas wrist injury early 91 or late 1990
Who's Laimbeer to comment on judging individuals? Laimbeer was a POS
BUT Jordon wasn't commenting on individuals, he was criticizing the Piston's style of play.
Naw bill is referring to Michael’s interviews about bill and the pistons where he publicly took shots at bill and the team.
@@gankhammer9926Nah Way Before The Last Dance, Bill Been Taking Shots At MJ Because He Never Got Over Being Swept By Jordan In 91🤷🏽💯
@brendagray9601 What! Dumbest comment ever. He owned Jordan for years in the Playoffs. BACK2BACK Champions.
@@ftrevino4493 Well If I Owned Someone, I'm Gonna Make Sure I Owned The Biggest Bag💰
@@ftrevino4493 It's not how you start it's how you finish that counts. Ex opponents have nothing good to say about Laimbeer, so Jordan's not on his own. Laimbeer made his bed, he has to lie in it.
This is why outside of Detriot Joe D is respected and revered for his character and integrity.
But
I remember that era, them games were BRUTAL🥴. Many players today would not survive no matter how athletic they are!
Was a massive Pistons fan but didn't loke the whole bad boys thing. Im sure im not alone. So much talent and it was mostly necessary and takes away from how great the team was.
Joe Dumars was a class act in a team full of thugs. He used to warn Reggie Miller about driving into the penalty area, "be careful going out there. It can get rough"!
The nba media of today won't interview any teams that beat and ridiculed leFlop. He is well protected.
That era was the best of the NBA that won't be repeated. Nowadays doesn't even compare. Actually rather boring nowadays.
The guy who said LeBron is the best player he seen ,I see his pain when he talks about Jordan .
Jordan ,and Thomas you were both great.
Bill Laimbeer was the first big man 3 point shooter. Im brasilian and I used to live at that time in New England. Detroit Bad Boys Pistols always the team who overcame;Celtics;Magic and Chico so nobody can take this away from them.
I think by now this shouldn’t even be an issue! Not taking anything away from Jordan but Isaiah was and is the quintessential point guard any team could have. He’s still my top point guard ever. Isaiah was as fierce a competitor as Jordan. All of those would tell that are go friends off the court but it’s a different story on the court. With that, Isaiah still a gentleman and a stand up guy!
Shouldn’t take away from Mike, Mike said he think Zeke is the second greatest point guard ever behind Magic.
Isiah Thomas threw shades at Jordan during live broadcast on national TV in G6 of 98 finals suggesting Jordan fouled and pushed his defender down before taking that winning shot. Now he says he's always nice to MJ. Not buying it.
Most of the then Pistons hated Jordan because he kept embarrassing them night after night
Stop lying. The pistons beat the bulls more than the bulls beat the pistons. The pistons beat MJ Magic and Bird.
@@Michael-qg1ghbulls beat pistons too bro. Remember that sweep in 91.
Bulls had the last laugh
Makes me sad MJ and Zeke can't patch it up though. Couple of legends regardless and growing up near Chicago we were Bulls fans of course but we all knew how good Isaiah was and that he was from the city. Maybe some day.
@Jimmyd134 of course I remember. I was there. But we're not gonna rewrite history as if the pistons didn't beat MJ and the bulls for years and trach them how to win. Same goes for the celtics beating the pistons for years and teaching the pistons how to win. That's how champions are built.
Jordan was is and will always be the GOAT
@Thedesertguy75 😂Bro you & the rest are just sheep following another sheep disguised as a goat, to you all my sympathy goes out 🤣
Bill Laimbeer's was predictable 🤣🤣🤣
Joe D is all class.
Would've been nice to hear from Vinnie Johnson on this matter. Him and Joe Dumars would be the only two to consider as they was strictly b-ball. Joe's word I'll take tho. Respect the clip them bad boys were a tough team.
I play ball with Mahorn's nephew.Dude is big as a tank n pops shit just like his uncle. Listening to Rick talk got me thinking bout neph 😂
Pistons molded Bulls to the become the greatest team ever assembled, the organization improved that team further, so naturally 6 rings, 2 3 peats, and they could have won more if it weren't for the same organization that built them.
Charles Barkley called u that in the (dream team documentary) 😮 Jordan hated u & ur team for the way u elevated his game, but didn't hate u as a person mane. No one loves a coach when he is taking them thru,this & that, but soon as they win the championship, who is the first person that that they throw in the air,(IT'S THE COACH). One thing i can say about ZEKE, he always gave MJ his props,even as evident thru mediating thru MJ'S Championships. I have to give him that. But ZEKE, the man doesn't hate u perse'
LB is the best player who ever played the game. He knows how to involve his teammates to win from Day 1. So it took the best player ever LB 20 seasons to win 4 championships 😢
Definition of Being the Goat. Michael jordan never walked off without congratulating his opponents
unlike today's self-proclaimed goat, LeBron, who doesn't even walk off the court with his teamates after a defeat, but departs like a coward with his tail between his legs before the game has even ended officially
Well made video! I am a die hard MJ fan! He was my idol in my childhood! However, I kinda feel for Isiah and what he’s saying!
Jordan also threw stones at Isaiah thomas, i love both of them. I just think them 2 could have been the best of friends. Come on guys you can't change the past. But, the future is in both of your hands. You were both great. And made each other greater. Boy i wish lebron could of played, the teams the chicago bulls, and bad boy pistons played, let alone how physical the game was than, he would really be throwing a cry baby fit on the floor with his steroid azz. We would have a better perspective of the goat debate for damn sure.you seen lebron in the raptors game, totally sickening to me tarnished the league in my eyes. Picture lebron having to face the bad boy pistons. Lebron can't face adversity, or that tough of competition . And i don't care about his all time scoring title. Any body who thinks lebron is better than Russell, wilt, kareem, bird , magic, julius irving moses malone, hakeem the dream, let alone kobe bryant and michael jordan. They have got to ignorant of the sport. Or excuse me when i say on crack or something, lebron is only better at traveling, turnovers, and flops. Oh, and falling on the floor and throwing a crybaby tantrum like a chid. Hey media, and stupid brainwashed people there's your goat. I mean hell you got a great players like jokic, luca, giannis etc... and the nba semms to devote its time and money on rigging and fixing games to help this celebrater when losing moron, who should have never been in the goat debate to begin with. The media must think basketball fans are idiots, well ia ain't on your bandwagon. You don't pick my goats i do. I'll take elvin hayes, as far as basketball skill over lebron james, and durability, thats the problem with basketball. They remember more idiots and forget more greats than any oher sport. Well this real fan never forgot you big e. Look him up, his resume will prove him a better ball player, and gret durability, and very, very, very underrated
Yea but you don't hear Jordan going on podcast talking Thomas 🤷 #letitgo
Joe Dumars came from a family that always had class. I grew up with Joe, a few years older. Joe never played with kids his age. He always played with the big boys. His family had nothing but respect before he became Joe. In my hometown he has another name
I respected Dumars and Rodman. 😊
Bill Laimbeer was the guy every team wanted, he's the Draymond Green Ron Artest Bruce Bowen, .....Charles Oakley he contributed to the wins.
Laimbeer took it personal..
Funny thing about lambier is, he would have made lebron crumble and cry and duck the pistons. He don’t have that dog in him
YOU NEVER SEEN LEBRON CRUMBLE AND CRY. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR INFORMATION...LEBRON IS BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN ALL THOSE GUYS...IF REGIIE MILLER AND FRAIL SCOTTIE PIPPEN CAN TAKE IT LEBRON COULD..SCOTTIE IS THE ONE WHONHAD A MIGRAINE AMD HAD TOSIT OUT A PLAYOFF GAME NOT LEBRON..YOU PEOPLE ARE DELUSIONAL.LEBRON WAS A HIGHLY TOUTED FOOTBALL PLAYER WHO WAS PROJECTED TO BE A HALL OF FAME RECEIVER/ TIGHT END. .LEBRON IS PLENTY TOUGH. YOU DONT SCORE 39000 POINTS AND 8000 PLAYOFF POINTS WITHOUT BEING TOUGH
Flopping like a mug 😂
Hey Bill how does jealousy taste obviously not too good.
i like the way Isaiah Thomas carefully picks the right words. he seems a very nice guy. a Michael Jordan GOAT fan hear.
Need a Isiah/Jordan sit-down on national television
Not happening… because of Jordan… I’m sure isiah wants to squash the beef.
It will break the Internet
we need a 3 way with Scottie as well
@@bullboy13fuc Scotty, just MJ and Zeke. It would be sports history!!!!
That's not gonna happen
All these guy's were great basketball players in their right back in the 80's and 90's basketball era!!! That era was the best no matter how physical or how rough the game was played!!! They should all go publicly on national TV and shake hands and berry the hatchet!!! Both teams the Chicago Bulls and the Detroit Pistons!!! That's all there's to it!!! The only one player that i would probably have a hard time forgiving on the Detroit Piston team is Big Bill Laimbeer!!! But at the end of the day its best to just berry the hatchet no matter who said what or what they did to you on the basketball court period!!! That's just the way the game was played back then!!! 🪓🪓🪓
You can compete and play tough physical basketball without trying to hurt people. The Pistons were literally attempting to hurt Jordan. That wasn't basketball and there should be hard feelings. Detroit made it personal.
Michael said in TLD "to this day I think he's the 2nd greatest point guard ever. There's magic Johnson, then there's Isiah Thomas... But there's nothing you can say to convince me that he WASN'T an asshole."
Michael said in regards to that incident 30 years ago, he felt Isiah was an asshole.
Isiah in interviews acting like Mike sat down in 2020 and said" F Isiah Thomas and everything he stands for." lmao
ppl want the quick sound bite, but don't actually listen to what was said.
Understandably Isiah is hurt over the dream team, but even if Michael didn't say no it him on the team; the NBA new that Mike wasn't going to play with him, in this huge mega experiment like the Dream Team. He didn't need to say no, they said it for him. they also said it for Scottie (who nearly severely injured multiple times by that team). For Magic (who Isiah reportedly hinted got HIV because he was gay). for Larry (the whole Dennis Rodman quote). for Karl Malone (who damn near took Isiah eye out with a bow)... you're trying to build this super team of American talent who at the end of the day is supposed to represent American excellence & ultimate team unity. the same reason he wasn't on the team is the same reason his own coach Chuck Daly didn't select him for the team... There would have but 10x more distractions & division within that team had he been on there. What NBA gonna pick a 30 year old Zeke, and none of those other guys? foh
MJ, Magic, Bird, Pip, Malone all didn't want him on the team; Isiah may be bitter about that, but that's what he reaped when he sowed the choice to embrace that "Bad Boy" mentality to win. He ain't got no one to blame but himself... what goes around comes around. the fact he's so bitter about it really comes down to this GOAT debate obsession on Social Media, and seeing MJ pushed even higher into the zenith of Immortality, & most youngins just looking right over his head and putting Steph at #2 PG ever. His legacy will unfairly go down as the snake who tried to hurt MJ to keep winning. but he made his bed a long time ago, can't try n get comfy now Zeke.
Is what it is mane, let it go brother.
Jordan had a big mouth and Detroit had to show him that he could be touched at any point
Cap! MJ showed Detroit respect and shook their hands when he lost. MJ has respect for Chuck Daily, Dumars, Rodman, Salley, and Mahorn. Why is that?? Exactly! 🙏🏾
Lambier - who's he? 😂
The Goat! Who makes you forgotten 😂
The bulls were never the Piston rival. The Pistons dominated that series. Mike was the best player but he was not on the best team. The Pistons earned my respect. The NBA would make people think the Pistons were also rans. They beat the Celtics. Jordan didn't beat the Celtics.
Hat's off to Liambeer Zeke and Mahorn bad to the bone
Bill Laimbeer is privy to be embarrassed by Mike in so many videos shown all over the World, and that's why Laimbeer is stilled pissed over the way he got used back then. Definition of a Hater!!
It was a shame how the pistons walked out without congratulating but it made it that much more satisfying to see them lose especially since Jordan went on to win 6 rings
All 3 of them: Lamebeer, MahCorn & Liesiah are just what Horace Grant said that they were, "Straight B🤬z".
Isiah Thomas is more dramatic than all of the basketball wives combined!!
What this video confirmed for me was Loyal Hate. They were a team that provoked hate. They loved the image they personified. That image got trampled on, stumped, and crushed by one man, Michael Jordan. Jordan has nothing to prove, yep this vides says it all. MJ Goated even by his haters!!!!! The End!!!!
Cool to see different opinions from different players of the team that was Jordan's biggest hurdle. Some of these guys you can tell are never going to move on from 35+ Years ago and others can let it go and be honest.
Bad Boys, always in my heart
I miss these days!
"We toughed him up" John Salley.
He is correct.
Then MJ became the GOAT, thanks Bad Boys.
MJ respected Joe Dumars simply because Joe respected him.
For the record Isaiah said MJ is the best to ever play the game before choosing someone else later on because of hating...
Then made the Jordan rules.
For a team to make a rule for a certain player, you know that player must be really great..
when you resort to dirty tactics, then you're not really great, both in skill and in character.
Exactly.
Wrong. They had skill or else they'd have been the 90s NY Knicks
@@FuShengAlex wrong. They were so hated, every team gave 200% against them. That‘s why their "dynasty" ended pretty quickly.
They were the ones that won rings, but never any respect.
@@Zett76 None of what you addresses what the OP said about them not being great at skill. If they weren't skilled they'd have always come up short like the Knicks did.
They had guys like Isiah, Joe, Vinnie, Mark Aguirre & Adrian Dantley that could make a big shot when needed. Unlike NY who had Ewing and a bunch if bricklayers. Pistons version of Rodman was arguably the most versatile defender in nba history.
Of course when someone faces the 80s most winningest team and the 90s most winningest team not to mention the 2nd winningest team in Boston, their window of success is much more narrow than other title teams in NBA history. For such a hated team it's ironic Chicago would later scoop up a trio of their players in one off season.
I didn't expect to say this but, I'm with Isiah. And Salley had a great point.
Nope
IT and zeke are lames. They like bitter ex-girlfriends that missed the bag once MJ cemented his legacy and they are less remembered and mostly remebered for dirty play. There's the old saying "the empty can rattles loudest".
Do you know how clever hisiah is, look at the way he negotiated for players to have the best deals to have pensions.
@@tlawengmophosho4848 that has shit to do with the topic. Why the strawman? Thats means he didnt play dirty and make enemies? Smdh
@@malnorfleet4925 Jordan elbowed all types of people quit acting like he didn't whine and play dirty sometimes.
@@tlawengmophosho4848Didn’t he ruin a couple of organizations?
@@djprincecharles84 man gtfoh. Mj wasnt dirty. For you to come with that weak sh*t shows you dont really think clearly. Players never accused mj of playing dirty and for us the actually watch basketball that wasnt his MO. Foh. Whine, name one player that didnt protest calls. See how ignorant your post is. Smfh
Laimbeer was right regardless of people's views towards him. Jordan along with the media and marketing hype machine, has put him on a pedestal based on his game that is totally different from his real life persona.
Yawn trolll
Bill Laembeer straight up hater but the one that's a nobody is him, where is he now. Only Dumas got my respect. I stop this video halfway i can tell the rest of them were gona trash MJ.
Lambeer coachung WNBA
@@TheNBAGoat oh shit lol that's as far as that bum will go
Bill Russell and the Boston Celtics begs to differ with you.
11 rings
8 in a row
Wilt Chamberlain 60+ individual unbroken records for 50+ years still unbroken to this very day. THE REAL GOAT & (OG) STILL THE GREATEST.
Nice try, though. Maybe in the next life.
Bill LAME don lost his mind at the 2:16 mark. If that's the case he should have more chips then right!?🤦SMDH!!!!!
Bill and Detroit would’ve three-peated if the refs don’t save LA in 88
John Salley described it best. Detroit wasn’t a bad group. The media brainwashed people into thinking they were dirty. They just played physical, intense hoops. Guys had 6 fouls and used them. Flagrant fouls were permitted, so they used them. No easy baskets, physical defense, they played hard.
Saying flagrant fouls were permitted is a slippery slope argument. As an NBA player, staying on the court is necessary for one's livelihood. Is it really fair for a player to have to be apprehensive about driving to the basket in a tight game because he might get rocked in a backbreaking way? Do we really want a league where our favorite players (or any players, speaking truthfully) spend half a season or more recovering from an injury obtained by a flagrant foul? Of course not.
Truth! What Detroit did was within the rules of the day. The year MJ broke through...Flagrant 1&2, breakaway foul rule, and Defensive 3 seconds added.
Oh bill u sad sad man
That's why I call them the "sad boys". Stay looking for someone to give them a hug.
Lambeer is Kayfabe all the way
When though I am diehard fan of MJ I like the bad boys' Pistons.
Dumars is pure class, and Laimbeer is pure trash.
Great idea for a video. 💪
Thank you for showing how hypocritical, inconsistent and two faced Isiah was and is.
At least Isiah will say it to your face. Jordan, though.
@envyops When did Isiah say anything to anyone's face? Isiah has always been a two-faced, politician. He was even had beef with his kissing buddy Magic.
@@semaj06 Zeke went viral spitting on Mike's words and actions for like a year, after Mike started it, but he didn't want none. Cause he was wrong in the first place. I know he's MJ, but that is possible.
He was also the reason the Pistons got rid of Rick Mahorn and hey behind his bck@semaj06
What did Micheal Jordan say about Jordan? Other than he doesn't fear no jordan because
I actually like their attitude instead of simping like it's these days in the league.
Isaiah did you have something to do with freezing out Michael Jordan 1985 All-Star team
Freeze out game is a lie , zeke passed to mj that entire game