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Republicans or Democrats? Who Should Catholics Vote For? | The Catholic Talk Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, the guys discuss the Republican and Democratic parties and explore how a well-formed Catholic should vote.
Episode 91:
In this episode, we will discuss:
• Which party fits with Catholic teaching?
• What are the "5 Non-Negotiable" Issues?
• The 3 Catholic Principles of Voting
• Should The Catholic Church even be involved in politics?
• How can a Catholic voter form their conscience?
• and much more
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You guys have completely enriched my knowledge of the Catholic faith. Ive watch all of your episodes and have learned so much. Now when I go to Mass and I recite the Nicene Creed, i actually mean it! Im looking forward to raising my Children with full knowledge of the faith instead of taking them to Mass once a year at Christmas like how i was raised. Its all thanks you guys!
Wow! That means so much to us! God Bless!!!
That's beautiful! I'm coming back as well. Praise Be Jesus Christ.
marynadononeill There was one episode where Ryan mentioned 50% of all baptized children leave the faith and it breaks my heart because i’ll meet another Catholic but they have no clue what their actual faith is. I don’t blame them either because I was exactly the same way. I taught my mother how to pray the rosary a few weeks back and am trying to bring her and father back too.
The Catholic Talk Show Please don’t stop what you guys are doing! In fact I would be grateful to hear what you guys have to say about being Catholic in the Military and issues/solutions to inter-faith Marriages. Im in the Marines and married a agnostic Japanese woman I met while in Japan. I was starting to become a practicing Catholic when I married her and didn’t know there was an actual process in the church for that. Luckily she has no problem with me raising our children Catholic. She even comes to church every Sunday even though she doesn’t believe...yet (flirt to convert?) but not every man/woman has a spouse thats that open.
SkillsDND there are a few flaws in your bias. Yes the passages referring to exterminating cities are troublesome but you have to read the Old Testament from the lens of the ancient Hebrews. The Hebrews were a warrior like people, some say they still are to this day in relation to modern day Israel. Although the prophets wrote down that God said to exterminate the conquered and spare no living man, the following chapters give rules as to not intertwine with the pagans they supposably just exterminated. They gave rules not to intertwine because it was not literal, God did not order the Israelites to literally kill every living person and this is clear in the following chapters. God has not changed over the ages, Man has changed over the ages. It’s important to remember that although sacred scripture is divinely inspired from God, it is not written by God but from God through Man.
On your first point referring to the “God of the Gaps” point of view, supporting the argument that God is a man-made construct to give explanations to things we didn’t understand in the past is easily dissectable. If you imply that our current discoveries on modern day physics and etc prove that there is no God, is pretty absurd. The big bang theory was created by a Catholic priest for crying out loud 😂 . Science cannot prove that God doesn’t exist. If anything it only helps to prove his existence.
I have been a registered Republican for 50 years who has never missed a local or national election but I have voted for pro-life Democrats when ever I had the opportunity. In 50 years that has happened twice.
Dang
I hope it makes a difference
Who were the pro life democrats?
For the Republic
can't vote for an anti-abortionist and be ok w/ a pro war candidate and expect a seat on the moral high ground.
Thank you for mentioning the American Solidarity Party!
I really appreciate this conversation. It covered so many things I’m struggling with during this election season. Praying for all of you, and love your show. 🕊🙏🏼❤️
I have an agnostic friend(male) who said it's difficult for someone to come to see the pro-life argument if they don't believe in God and I told them how I believe abortion is very anti-feminist. It tells women you can't, you aren't capable, you aren't strong enough, you can't do this on your own. The pro-life side(heavily led by women) says you've got this, you can do it and we're going to be there for you and your baby, here's healthcare, here's shelter, here's food and clothing, etc., stay strong.
And I know quite a few places that do exactly that. But the pro choice do not acknowledge they exist .Sad.
The problem is that in a lot of places there aren't things to take care of the women and the baby.... If we want to stop abortion, we need to create those places
The poor need help not religious beliefs preached to them. Homeless people can quote the salvation prayer but don’t believe it. They say it so they can eat
For those who demand control over their bodies concerning abortion. that isn't your body you kill. That's someone else's body, and your duty as his or her front line of defense, is to protect that most vulnerable person.
@SkillsDND bullshit! You are not even close with even a twisted interpretation, lol. Go read the Bible instead of outright lying. Even the old Testament commandment "thou shall not kill" was fulfilled in Jesus command to 'Love God.. and Love each other'.
@SkillsDNDwhat part of "do not kill" and "love others as yourself" do you not understand?? Duh! Go read for yourself. Typical religion of Aethism: bait with a lie, then act as if we have to prove the obvious to a mind already closed that proudly thinks he is superior. That is just your peversion of mocking humor, it is evil. Jesus said to walk away and knock the dust off your sandles from people and places like that!. Prayerful reading of the Bible is your own prayerful journey of a lifetime..good luck to blessings and enlightenment.
@SkillsDND the devil speaks in forked tongues 😜
@SkillsDND show me where Jesus condoned killing anyone and I will show you another of your lies.
@SkillsDND Just told you to prove where Jesus condoned killing anyone and you can NOT. That IS the winning argument butyou are closed minded. Jesus fulfilled the old testament and commands you to Love God and Love one another. Killing babies is murder. We all know abortion is being used mostly as birth control and for illegally harvesting body parts that un Planned parerenthood got caught doing! Those abortions are an "abomination". Look that word up in you bible studies and prayerfully open the closed mind that you are too lazy to use without lying. So I taught you several truths. Now teach me your false argument that Jesus condones killing or more productively go prayerfully read the Bible for the first time. This sir/mam is why most of USA has, is and will be a super majority Christian nation as it was founded.
Hell doesn’t care if you’re Republicans or Democrats it accepts all parties. God on the other hand, also doesn’t care for Political Parties but He does care about how you have lived life according to his Word!
And voting for a party that has killing babies and celebrating fatherless children (and now motherless children too! Gotta celebrate those kids with two dads and no moms!) is not exactly "living well according to His word."
Yes, God doesn't have any earthly political stance. However, I think He warns us not to be stupid either. Voting for a party (Democrats) who have espoused abortion on a grand scale, including the abortion of tull term babies, is MURDER and those who openly condone this will be held accountable, if not by men, then surely by our Creator. No party is perfect but that which openly declares the sanctity of life has my vote.
SkillsDND Hey, I never said the Church is not without its faults but if you're trying to test my faith, then you're reaching out to the wrong person. However, I assume that you yourself are proclaiming to be without fault, so I'm glad you've proven yourself to throw the first stone. Rape is wrong, yes, and should never be condoned, but neither should the willful destruction of innocent human life.
Thank you so much for hosting this. It helps me to know that I'm not the only one fed up with the two-party system and its current brokenness. I hope and pray that since we (as a whole nation) broke it, we (as a whole nation) can also fix it and find solidarity. God bless you!
Absolutely fantastic episode! A decent and nuanced discussion on politics from the Catholic perspective that I have not heard in a long time. Well done and God Bless you Gentlemen!
I vote pro life, that tell a lot.protect life and children.
I agree pro life and this election the ONLY party defending life is Republican. If we don’t protect the baby from the moment of conception then the rest of society will fail. God knew each one in the mother’s womb. God sent His only Son into this world through the womb... The 5th commandment thou shall not kill. The media is just that influencers. News we have to research to get to the truth.
SkillsDND ... judging me and not knowing any other circumstances...hmmmm. Not at all anti military or capital punishment all biblical. I am still allowed to voice one and simply did without attacking anyone. I gather you are of other opinion. I will answer for my actions and words one day and so will you. I stand with my vote ALWAYS for PRO LIFE and protection for those who can’t.
SkillsDND such a leftist statement name calling ugly, nasty , and judgmental comments have no bearing because they appear to be coming from a place of hate. So I choose to pray for you. 🙏🏽. May God bless you . 🚂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
SkillsDND if you read Cardinal Burke, he makes it pretty clear, our Catechism states we must protect life of the unborn. Wars and death penalty can both be held from both sides and justified. Abortion is always wrong. The Holy Father just stated so once again on September 25th to the U.N. You do not have to vote for Trump, but you can’t vote for Biden.
SkillsDND this is a Catholic post ..... go troll elsewhere

"The most important thing in any election is the spiritual and moral welfare of the citizenry "
Fr. Chad Ripperger
I truly TRULY feel that if we as Catholics start putting the same energy about voting our conscience and Catholic social teachings during the primaries instead of waiting until the general election to start talking about it, we could get candidates that better represent Catholic social teaching. But we don't, at least where I am from and in my experience. We have gotten too comfortable with saying "oh, well, this whole group is pro-life so any of them are fine" or we spend time justifying the MOST conservative candidate's view that opposes other Church social teaching. The Catholic vote is powerful and we have got to focus it on getting the BEST pro-life candidates and not just ANY candidates that are pro-life.
There needs to be more pro-life parties. It’s a shame many are shoehorned to one side as single issue voters.
Libertarian
Please get on the Catholicvote .com website and take the survey. You will be shocked how anti Catholic the democratic party has gone
Janice P they’re anti religion and it’s sad that they’ve thrown away that American value.
@@emadrid28 they probably more pro choice but I think allow pro life candidates
As for me and my family we shall serve the Lord Jesus. Clearly choose life! God Bless US All.
@TheDay Cometh Thank you and may God continue blessing you too!
Just leave it as a choice. It's a woman's choice. Men need to shut up.
NELSON, nobody shall "shut up" as you crudely say. I speak for the child that we ALL now can prove, in science, whom is a unique individual. That is like saying it is my house or womb so I can kill anyone who enters..No it destroys them and me. The choice we all have is BEFORE conception, duh.
@@nelsonvecchione2621 smh....
So I just learned the Canon 915 is St Thomas’ teaching about how Communion should be refused if the sinner is open, public and notorious. He is not to be refused if his sin is secret.
This is the reason St. Thomas, St. Augustine and others believe that Jesus did give Holy Communion to Judas at the Last Supper. Judas’ sin was secret at that time.
A Pastor of a Catholic Community would need to refuse Communion to a well known pro abortion politician ( for instance) because her sin is not secret ( in the ‘Media’ and she has a voting record) and it gives scandal to the Pastor’s flock.
@@zeniazenia2787 Especially if giving such politician Communion in public will cause another person to stumble.
@@Lerian_V Withholding Communion from them also saves them from committing a mortal sin by receiving communion while in a state of mortal sin. It's actually the "pastoral" route that makes the most genuine attempt to lead them back into the flock.
Jesus gave Judas holy communion at the last supper BEFORE he committed the sin of betraying Jesus, saint Paul tells us “Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body” (1COR11:27-29).
Thank y'all for this enriched discussion!! It truly helped me formulate and defend my beliefs as a Catholic citizen in America!
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This is the best show to date. Well done gentlemen! I was so happy to listen.
What's sad is that neither party truly represents ALL of our beliefs. Each one has contradictions to our beliefs, so we are left compromising somewhere. When I look at 3rd parties, they seem even more polarizing than the first two. I wish that we had candidates who did not constantly stick to party lines and stood out to represent Catholic and Christian values. This is why I do not align to a single party. I am a Catholic Christian first and foremost. I make them earn my vote each and every election.
Here's a question to get everyone fired up: Many of us vote based on one or two key issues... mainly around the "non-negotiables." The parties know that we vote for them based on those issue. Doesn't that remove their motivation to actually change anything about that? For instance, many of us are drawn to the right because of Pro-Life issues, and it brings the Republican Party a substantial part of their base. If we Roe v. Wade gets overturned, many would not show up in the same numbers. So do we actually believe the politicians will do anything about it?
Good point
That's why you don't just be a voter, become a participant and push for those changes or reforms you think are good. When your contribution to a party is only to give them your vote, then nothing will change; you have to really join and work to make your vote worth it in the long run.
If Roe gets overturned I doubt that means the fight is over.
I was told I would be committing a mortal sin if I voted Democratic because of abortion & same sex marriage. In addition I would be committing a mortal sin if I decided not to vote. I don’t mind saying this has caused me sleepless nights & anxiety.
This is awesome. When I compare what I heard here with what I hear from both parties, it seems like the Republican Party actually matches what’s proposed in this video more than the Democrat party. At least that’s how I see it.
Finally a Catholic program stated the obvious! Neither republican nor democratic party completely fits the teachings of Jesus in the Gospel! As a Catholic I find this extremely frustrating. Please let me know if you know a single candidate from any party that aligns completely with Jesus. I like the comment on 6:25 about politics getting into religion. Please someone take politicians out of EWTN so it can turn back to be a network for evangelization again instead of political propaganda.
America desperately needs more than the two candidates offered at the moment.
I have Hallow and would definitely recommend it. Excellent technology, rich content, and very friendly.
You did what needed to be done. Educate according to the church. Personally, I'm appreciative. This is great open honest church-fact conversation. This is the best kind of round table talk. My favorite. It's about learning. It's about being Catholic. It's about choice. It is a difficult task for those of us who really want to please God while living among the unrest of our world.
Thank you for mentioning the American Solidarity Party. I am a student in college and therefore, new to voting. I have always felt very discouraged when it came to politics because I feel so unrepresented as a Christian. I had never heard of the American Solidarity Party; after researching them, I have found some peace when it comes to this upcoming season of voting.
We no longer have the Democratic Party of Al Smith or John F. Kennedy.
uh oh...this comment section is going to burn, hope its a good episode!
Look at the comments on this video. Not a single honest pro-life argument for voting Republican. Only the same lies and distortions. If the guys thought opening up this debate was a good idea, they were wrong. All it does is empower relentless propaganda.
@@lukejohnson562 Trump is the most pro-life candidate in our time (despite his other flaws). He needs support to move forward on it and he has down ehe the can. He was at he March for Life and he appoints pro-life where he can.
@Michael Pondo It is not an either/or choice in terms of moral conscience. Having said that, The incarnation of a new Soul is not on the same plane as a doctor visit. Catholics don't hang onto our material life as the ultimate good. Saving your Soul is the name of the game of being on this planet. Death and illness are a part of life and your death is in your contract with God. But of course vote for fair access to healthcare just get priorities straight.
@@marynadononeill So what are you getting at? We should vote democrat for better health care and not bother with the biggest genocide in human history? Do I need to remind you of the 6th Commandment at this point? It's all about not killing. I don't know about an 11th one that says Thou shalt provide free health care. I am pretty sure that's not a commandment or even anywhere in the Bible.
@@normanberg9940 I’m afraid I was trying to be too philosophical in my response to the other commenters and my- meaning got lost because I 100% believe that abortion is the non- negotiable topic of our times. I am 100% pro-life. I love FR Altman! You cannot vote democrat and be Catholic! Maybe re read my comment in this light?
Love you guys! Its good to hear conversations about issues between people that I know have different perspectives while keeping it civil.
If a pastor tells you how to vote, find a new church. If a politician tells you how to pray, find a new representative. Your politicians should bot even consider church doctrine .It's not their job. What;s best for the most.
Thanks for this
This is a very crucial time in America and all of us Catholics need to come together to vote for the person and party that allows our faith that we love so dearly to exist. The government can’t replace God.
Jason Craveiro The one who allows our faith to exist is CHRIST!
Also the government shouldn’t grow so big to the point where it’s pushing God out of the picture
Jason Craveiro Jesus said that His Church is built upon a rock and that the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. Would you bring God and his Church down so low as to be subject to the political whims of men? How did trying to push the church out of existence work for the Roman gov’t, which was 100x larger and more powerful than America? Oh, that’s right, it didn’t!
I really think nowadays the middle ground is like the narrow path.
With social media. Everything is an extreme and you’ve got to be on a side. It’s very difficult to explain your view to people if your not choosing a club to be part of.
We have to really pray for our leaders. People forget to or are angry at them so just don’t.
The problem is you can't vote for one thing like just pro life . We can't be pro life and put kids in cages . We can't be pro life if we can't support the poor . Pro life its just one part of a bigger issue.
We will never end poverty if we keep changing the definition of poverty. Those people who are now considered poor at the time when Jesus walked the earth would be considered rich.
Obama built the cages smh
I really love what Father said, "Your freedom is a freedom to be excellent."
Thank you for actually saying that we're NOT supposed to vote for Abortion... nor a candidate that is for Abortion. ... Vote Red until Abortion is off of the Democrat Platform.
Karen Kline yeah. And how’s that been working out for us? That pro-life amendment is the carrot we’ve been led around by for decades without even a real discussion. They are using us.
@@okimawilcox1550 Yeah, but considering your options, there is really no other choice. One party is very vocal about abortion, so vocal that each every Democratic nominee tries to outdo the other by doubling down on how to kill the unborn. That is too much.
The GOP has no incentive to end abortion, because it is their primary source of power. As long as they pay lip service to the idea, they know they won't be held accountable for any other human rights violations.
@@lukejohnson562 sad but probably true. But conservative judges are almost piling on the supreme court. One can be hopeful.
@@MrISkater Catholics should not sell their souls for more conservative federal judges. If the goal is to overturn Roe, then mission accomplished. The SCOTUS is majority conservative & soon abortion will become a 50 states battle. Why do you think big blue states like New York recently passed such extremely liberal abortion laws? Packing the federal courts with conservative judges will not protect human rights. All it will do is give corporations even greater advantage over workers. That is not Catholic.
The death penalty is an extreme measure but is part of our faith, nobody can change that.
I get that you guys are trying to be fair to both sides... but you were overly charitable to the Democrats and not charitable enough to the Republicans. Go back to the non negotiables you mentioned early on (especially abortion and euthanasia), and the choice is clear. Almost all Democrats (especially those on the national stage) support abortion through all 9 months, and some of them support leaving babies to die if they survive an abortion. Some Republicans do only pay lip service to the pro-life crowd, but some are working hard to limit and eventually ban these evil practices. I’m proudly voting for Trump in 2020 because (despite his flaws) he is the most pro-life president I’ve seen in my lifetime, and that is based on his actions, not just what he says. And don’t forget that appointments onto the Supreme Court and lower courts are in play here, and these appointments also effect the way our country goes on these important issues.
THANK YOU
I never thought of the death penalty as taking away someone's chance for conversion, but you are absolutely right! Wow, was that ever heavy.
This is the only video where I can say that I love its sponsors.
I'd given up on dialogue since all it got me was disowned from family. You've inspired me to try again.
Well the solution is to never discuss politics with your family. I do have a few good friends and we just agree not to go there..they are good people and we have hobbies that unite us so why bother with politics.
I am the only Republican in my family, all the rest are Democrats. The key is to pray for them constantly. I refused to loose my family over politics so I kept the communications open by waiting for them to ask me questions like why do you vote Rep. I very calmly I gave them my position defending life alone not political position, which never ends good if you make it political and not your faith and the laws of God. After 4 years of open discussions and lots of prayers, I happily report except for 1 our of 6 we all voted Republican this past Nov. NEVER give up, God's laws are there for our good. It is worth defending them!
4 minutes left. Enough time to make popcorn!
Normie
Interesting episode . I don’t live in the US but agree that the ASP looked like a party worth checking out . Cheers !
I am a Pro-Life Libertarian.
Fredrick Bastiat, author of “The Law” was Catholic. This book is the one book that Dr. Ron Paul recommended every American read.
I also recommend Randy England’s book, “Free is Beautiful.” He is also a Catholic Christian.
There are some Libertarian candidates running for President that I cannot vote for, and if they become our nominee at the Convention, I will probably write in “Ron Paul” or “NOTA” like most libertarians who would rather not vote for evil.
I’m not telling anyone who they must vote for, but what the other two options offer is immoral.
Libertarianism is not the same thing as libertinism. True liberty requires morality. Libertinism doesn’t.
Fantastic job, Ryan, Ryan, Fr. Rich, Howard. Your content has aided [me] in bridging the gap between the Ecclesiastical and the secular belief.
This was so refreshing. I have been championing the American Solidarity Party for a while now. Thanks for this, really!
I chose American Solidarity Party in 2016 and I am so grateful I found a party that meets my standards and supports my values.
I think both sides are nuts! One of the few things I like about the Republicans or probably Trump is the stance on baby murder.
Note: I personally do not believe in everything I say in this comment. I just want a discussion.
If we are not to vote for someone because they support abortion (violation of the 5th commandment), isn't it equally as wrong to vote for some who is not Christian because they worship another god (violation of the 1st commandment)? What about person who supports unjust war (from a Catholic perspective), isn't that also killing? I do not understand how abortion and euthanasia are the only forms of killing that the church talks about.
Please enlighten me
themagicianschanel
Interesting observations. Here are my (jumbled) thoughts.
First, when it comes to abortion and euthanasia, you have to look at the intent of the acts. The intent of abortion and euthanasia are to destroy a life. In the case of euthanasia, sometimes the victim has a say, so its more like suicide. Other times their family members decide that their life should end. With abortion, from a philosophical perspective, it says a lot about the purpose of sex, of the body, and of life; so in this way contraception and abortion give into the other. Both defy the churches view of human sexuality, the theology of the body, and life. It says that the purpose of sex is not children, and in fact a child is the very enemy of intimacy between a two individuals. You either protect yourself from that end, or destroy it; both are valid. "my body my choice" indicates, with the help of contraceptives, that we can reprogram our bodies, aka destroy its nature, to act how we want it to, and when we want it to. The child is always the enemy that stands between restraint and "freedom". Contraception and abortion tell women that our fertility and children hold us back, from intimacy, career, and living. It's no surprise that we celebrate our "right" to both. So i think that the reason abortion is such a big deal is because its target is an innocent child, the intent of the act is to destroy that life SO that the mother could possibly go live her best life. And this act is celebrated in our culture. Euthanasia is a huge deal because it tells us so many lies, again, about the purpose of life, and of living. It says that ending our own life is better than suffering (abortion echos the same sentiment). Unjust wars are obviously unjust and I don't think any catholic should vote for a candidate that supports the concept of "unjust wars". And obviously, any type of war, just or unjust ends in killing. If there is a war that is going on we think is unjust, then we all have to speak against it. This can help to change the minds of those in charge. It's ironic because all three acts are part of the culture of death we have created, where human life in of itself has very little value. Ultimately, both abortion and euthanasia are clear moral evils in which people outrightly celebrate violence against other vulnerable human lives. With war, it's more complex because sometimes it is justified, but nevertheless, ends in endless death. There's always a "greater" goal with war, such as ending communism, ending slavery, etc. We ca break it down further and argue that within war itself there are acts that are completely immoral, such as a soldier killing innocent children for no reason (i don't know if that happens or not). The end goal of abortion is to remove a child from where it has a right to be, usually in peaces. And the end goal of euthanasia is to end destroy every cell of a person's being.
When it comes to candidates, the first thing we have to know is where we are voting for them to lead. Should we add "christian" to the qualifications for presidency? I think it has been important to know the person's religion because it usually tells us a lot about their beliefs. But today, it is not so clear. Atheism is a personal sin. Not being a christian is not necessarily a sin. A culture that embraces abortion and euthanasia, or unjust wars are not personal sins. A president that pushes for these things is unjust and is committing a huge abuse of power. So, i don't think that we should dismiss someone because of the possible and personal sin of not being christian, unless they put forth anti-Christian policies.
themagicianschanel I remember that there are non negotiables that you cannot vote against no matter what and I believe one was abortion. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but if there are 2 candidates and one is pro life and the other pro choice, I think we have to go with the one who is pro life unless both are pro choice then you have more of a choice.
@@mareeyo1 frankly if both are pro choice I would have to abstain from voting. Hardly happens..
@@amyj4283 Thank you for this thought out response. Now I understand the why people value abortion over the death penalty, because of the innocence and vulnerability of that life. Another note, is it a sin to vote for someone who doesn't believe in all Catholic ideals as long as they are not actively pushing agendas against them. If it's taken that way, any sin that a politician commits falls on the voters, which I don't agree with.
Great show guys. Once again a pleasure to listen to your thoughts. My understanding is that there is not one issue in our election decision but many.
Great discussion gentlemen! On the last presidential election I voted for the "lesser of two evils". Then after voting I came home, vomited, burned my clothes and sobbed uncontrollably in the shower like Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura. Was planning on not voting this year - thank you for giving me some good points to think about. Will definitely check out the American Solidarity party.
Also, nice touch with the red and blue lights in the background. I see what you did there.
God bless you. Gilberto, there's not many people in this world that have suffered repentance like that!
Some general comments/observations - The hosts discuss the 5 non-negotiables, though I find that many people (including lots of comments I'm seeing) make decisions solely based on one issue - abortion. Dignity of human life includes abortion as well as every other human - citizen, refugee, people here illegally, etc. Sure the Republican Party tends to be more pro-life, but it tends to also support policies that are detrimental to those that are less fortunate. How do you reconcile these two sides? And how do you determine which one should/will take precedence?
Gigi - All other rights are predicated one being alive or not... so the issues that take away life (abortion, euthanasia) would have more gravity
As Catholics we must only vote for which side is pro- life period !
LMAFOOO no
Neither is pro life both is anti Christ
@@rodrigofranca9787 I agree, the Republicans are not perfect but at least they support freedom of religion. We are able to practice Christianity. With Democrats they support everything except Christianity.
@@rodrigofranca9787 seriously are you for real,
Saul was "killed" and reborn as Paul, he did have to pay the ultimate price for killing Christians. Through the mercy of Christ he was converted.
Respecting the dignity of people is not the same as equal outcomes.
Ensuring Social Justice as in the Catechism is what we need to follow
@@albertoascari2542 One must carefully examine the implications of each faction's use of the term "Social Justice." We have to carefully guard against groups that have co-opted the term "Social Justice" to get us to advance causes that are diametrically opposed to divinely revealed Truth. Social Justice as utilized in the Catechism and as promulgated through scripture and tradition shares very little with what many groups currently exploiting the term actually want to achieve.
I'm really torn on the death penalty. First, most people who are on death row are there for years, so I feel like they do have a time for conversion. I believe the death penalty really should be only for the most horrific crimes - child killers (serial) and other serial killers. But my question is - what about the people that the criminals have killed? Didn't they take away that person's ability to convert to Jesus (if they had not already)? They cut their life short and any opportunity to find Jesus is lost. That's where my dilemma is. I can certainly see your point, but I keep thinking about the people they killed who were not given the opportunity for conversation as a result of their life being cut short.
Can you speak more on the case for a monarchy? I see the downsides outweighing the good. Curious what your thoughts are
I thought I wasn't going to like this, I was wrong
I'm not so sure Americans understand what Socialism is.
I'm not a Socialist. I'm a constitutional monarchist.
But universal Healthcare or education is not Socialism.
Food, shelter Healthcare is a human right.
Almost every country in the world agrees and does this. From a non American its always been strange to see Americans being treated so badly by there own gov.
America has sickcare not healthcare. It broke my heart to see other type 1 diabetics being charged 1000 usd for one vile of insulin. In my country it cost me nothing. Zero. Because I'm poor.
Other countries which are not as rich are able to do it. Why not the US? The rich have succeed in convicing poor Americans to vote against their own interests.
Shame the other parties who claim to help the poor also love abortion and hate Christians.
Bless you all.
Thank you so much for this video!
I will be voting for my first time on this election.
First I will say this has been eye-opening as it challenges everything I have believed was right when making my vote. In regards to comments made about youth voting solely for student loan relief, to me was a misrepresentation of the position of many young people. More than ever youth are taking action on issues that go beyond themselves for what they believe will leave a better world for their community and for generations after them. To me, I see people who have high hopes for their world, with intentions that are honest and honorable. If the positions on abortion and euthanasia were different I think we'd see much more progress as a country with the selflessness of today's youth.
Brave and wonderful stab at this guys! Now we need a show on the superiority of Christendom and the flawed project that Protestant Enlightenment has created in the modern world.
I'm already at the 35min mark, I was hoping to have already heard you on a possible third party... Have you ever heard of the American Solidarity Party? I think it's a ecumenical(catholic, protestant, etc) party, that has tried its best to present an alternative to those looking for a 3rd way of doing politics, instead of the usual binary party system.
I would like to have known your opinion on this American Solidarity Party. I'm not in America, but this initiative seemed interesting. @The Catholic Talk Show
P.S.: OOOHHHHH at 1h mark you talk about it! =) nice!
When you started to suggest policies for the health care system, I think you lost a bit of ground, I think. It takes many, many years to learn economics, specially at a phd level which is what is usually needed to debate these issues instead of 'overly simplified' undergraduate text-book examples. Also, Poland, where Jesus is King, they have public higher education, without the need for huge student debt. Is it a socialist country?
Catholics should not be involved in politics,we just pray and be led by the Holy Spirit
I just know my grandma lived through all of this chaos in America while living in MISSISSIPPI and she always said republicans have better results and they did everything they said they would do to actually help minorities EDUCATIONALLY and ECONOMICALLY!!!! She is 87 btw so she remembers every single lie Dems have told blacks in the South so she never switched parties in the 60s like other blacks. The welfare really tore the families apart and she knew the results today would come. 70% unwed homes in our community
I used to think she was crazy until I became Catholic! I found myself oppressed and mad at whites when I was voting for the Dems in my state
Both parties aren’t perfect but at least republicans focus on EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY here in MS! We now have Amazon here and Coca Cola is coming here soon because of our Governor trying to create an economy here because it’s beautiful here ❤
vote for who you personally feels fits your beliefs the most. do not vote for someone just because they're a republican or just because they're a democrat, that's lazy and sloth is a sin. don't be fooled by wolves in sheeps clothing claiming theyre all about God when they can't even quote a single passage.
Immigration should be organized and legal! Illegal immigration IS NOT ACCEPTABLE! This is not exclusive to America only! All countries have their laws. I am an immigrant and came to the US legally.
Great video guys!
Until we have Congressional term limits instead of career politicians we will have these unjust policies.
My parents are democrats and said trump does not share our catholic beliefs, i wonder what they mean by that. I think they are just misinformed.
They are correct. One cannot serve both God and money. And then there is the whole pride and vanity thing... the racism... the adultery... the hate... the violence... the pro-choice stance he had until he jumped on a Republican ticket... Yeah, your parents are correct. He is pretty much 100% opposite of Catholic or any form of "Christian" or even "decent" for that matter :)
@@dalmacapn What is the alternative? Candidates who openly support third trimester and live abortions, along with rabid femmism, Antifa and the such.
Good question. I dunno. Been struggling with this myself lately. Maybe at this point, DON'T vote so we can avoid being complicit in the evils of any of the parties and just try to raise our kids right, love and help our neighbors in the meantime, stand up for the oppressed, do what we can to fight the depletion of our world's resources, study the work of the church fathers, strive every day to learn and be better than we were the day before and hope and pray our children and grandchildren will one day have a world with candidates who aren't both evil senile creepy racist rapists... :/ It sucks. I'm bummed. I don't have the answers to an immediate solution.
dalmacapn well said!!
dalmacapn genuine question: how is voting for trump or Biden makes one “complicit in evils”?
Can you define racism for me and explain to me how trump is a racist? What violence?
I agree overall that trump is not a good representation for really anything. Who do you think would be a better candidate and more deserving of the catholic vote?
Social consciousness means helping to take care of those who cannot, not laziness!!!
So vote Republican!!! 💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The only option presently
You have to make sure that the children coming in as refugees are not being trafficked. Due diligence is required.
I feel like Ryan Scheel was speaking for me 😅! I had to share this video, I agreed with just about everything.
Great topic! Necessary to have the conversation even though many people refuse to it. I'm convinced, God will keep us accountable for the things we did or didn't to defend his most innocent children killed in abortion, beginning by our vote.
Can someone tell Archbishop Gregory
Trump gassed peaceful protesters and CLERGY for the sake of a photo op at a church were he had not been invited. After that, the Knights of Columbus should have cancelled his visit to the JP2 shrine. God bless Bishop Gregory for speaking out and holding him accountable. You can't let a world leader think he can gas the CLERGY of one church and expect to be welcomed at another.
@@lukejohnson562 We were only shown one side. Who knows what the protestors were doing before.
@@christianbrother4724 Trump's own people admit it was ordered by him so he could have his photo op by the church - holding a Bible as a prop. It was captured by journalists all over the world. What more evidence do you need.
@@lukejohnson562 that visit was planned for a long time and the. Archbishop was invited. He declined and went on a rant instead . It was to celebrate the bill for the religious freedom Trump signed.Thatvis the visit to StvJohn Paul 2
Trump is not in charge of his own security and people were advised well before where to move. Barr made it quite clear. But if you listen to CNN MSNBC and so on you will hear a different. and that.is the visit to the damaged Episcopal Church. So why be so nasty about it. It was a nice gesture .the rioters damaged the historical building .And the woman bishop never condemned that but ranted that Trump stood in the front without her permission
@@kvetamarie So now you want to tell the bishop of the church whose clergy got gassed and Trump used for a photo op HOW she is supposed to respond to the incident? How very Trumpian of you. Barr is a liar. He lied about the Mueller report - I know, I read it. Did you? You can't trust ANYTHING he says. Plus, there is no justification for what Trump did. The people in the park had every right to be there. It belongs to the public.
Shame on you for characterizing Archbishop Gregory's response as a "rant". Attacking an Archbishop of the Catholic Church for speaking out against injustice is a sign of the depravity that being so Trumpian leads a person to embrace. Given the circumstances of the previous day, the Knights of Columbus should have canceled Trump's visit, ESPECIALLY to a shrine dedicated to Saint John Paul II who made a point of standing up to state oppression. It doesn't matter what bill Trump signed, the Catholic Church has a long history of chastising state leaders who indiscriminately assault protesters going back to St. Ambrose of Milan.
Loving that Poland declared Christ the King! That is fantastic! I appreciate how you guys approached voting. I think you have to also consider how trustworthy the candidate is. A lot of politicians will say whatever it takes to get elected, so researching their record is imperative.
Vote for those that live the faith and not just give lip service to it.
I am totally against abortion. But I don't like when some Catholics talk all day about abortion as the only topic. If someone in the Catholic church say the most important topic is abortion, they are telling you vote republican because there are no pro-life democrats! Even for cases when voting republican or democrat, in the end, do not have real effect on abortion policies. There are other topics that are important as well, that if taken care, abortions could be indirectly reduced. It is not sane or balanced or realistic thinking that abortion is the only topic to talk about.
One doesn't need to educate, lower the taxes, & give Medicare from murdered people before they were born! I only have one issue that is the moral compass for all the other issues: Pro-life!!!
I think the biggest thing I took from this video is that the founder of Dominoes pizza is a devout catholic who founded a catholic university and is a Knight of Magistral grace of the knight of Malta.
I agree 100%. The 2 party system is no good.
I do not like politics! I pray, God will send the Holy Spirit, to touch the hearts of these politicians hearts. Prayer is the answer.
I understand Catholics do not believe in abortion and that is fine, Catholics should then tell their adherents never to consider an abortion. Yet many people are not Catholics & certain denominations actually put into writing as an article of faith that abortion is okay for its followers. Why push to outlaw abortion to the Protestants, Jewish, other religions or the non-religious who simply have different beliefs when life begins?
I’m watching this on 6/12/20. Pope Francis just issued a very political statement about Catholics voting.
Link ?
he's compromised
I know this video is a few years old now, but I still wish to comment.
I am not a member of any party. I don’t even like being called independent. I believe in voting for my conscience instead. If I feel a candidate will do well for what I believe in, I will vote for them regardless of what party…democrat, republican, or a third party. That’s just how I am; I will never join a party.
As for the abortion thing. They are also depriving them of baptism when they are aborted, which puts them in danger of hell/limbo of the infants, which is still a thing.
And great video!
Possibly the earliest known instance of a Catholic priest serving in public office in the United States was Gabriel Richard. Born in France, he founded the University of Michigan and served as a delegate from Michigan Territory from 1823 to 1825.
Two priests, Robert Drinan and Robert John Cornell, have served in the United States Congress. In 1980, when Pope John Paul II decreed that priests not serve in elected office,[7] Representative Drinan withdrew from his re-election campaign, and Cornell withdrew from his bid to re-gain the seat he had lost in the 1978 Congressional election. In 1983, the prohibition on serving in governmental office was codified as section 3 of canon 285 of the Codex Iuris Canonici.
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I wish we had a separate party for pro-life; family based, church based, Conservative Party
You guys should invite Michael Knowles to have a discussion on this issue.
I absolutely have heard priests specifically tell the faithful what party to vote for and who to vote for.
Is there an official Catholic Party of America?
They said to check out the American Solidarity Party. Its stances are based off of Catholic Social teaching.
The republican party, thats why i quit going to church
@@tomlehr861 lame excuse
I can get on board with the first 4, they share a theme, life and the preservation of it. Then you pull the fifth out of beyond left field.
in England, the church and state are together they have learnt to work together sometimes there are problems but they have to work through it
What is the Catholic Church doing to support these poor women or to give them an alternative to consider?
Just because a candidate says they are pro-life doesn’t necessarily mean they are. Any person that supports vaccines and vaccine development is not pro-life because in the manufacturing and development they use tissue from aborted fetuses.
Guys there is something that has been bothering me of a long time. It's not about politics!
I cannot find a statue (bobblehead?) or picture of Our Blessed Mother on your set. Am I missing it?
Young people have made their politics their religion. Charity has been replaced by social programs, glorifying government above God.
Telling young people that the most important thing to do in their life is voting or political activism is disordered.
Be Christian first.
When was this episode taped? So many things have happened that weren't mentioned. I hope next weeks episode addresses what is going on in the world today. We are fighting a pandemic, police brutality, racial injustice, and rioting just to name a few. We need to be allowed back in to our churches. We need open dialogue. We need Jesus Christ.
I am sickened by your implication that we are not dealing with racial injustice
Don't listen the trolls. I don't know what the guys were hoping to accomplish, but they should have known that opening up a discussion of this topic on TH-cam would just empower them to come out in force. It makes no sense to add fuel to the fire at a time when 80% of Americans think the country is out of control.
Turn OFF the mainstream media and think for yourself. The police brutality, racial injustice, and rioting is just a smokescreen NOT based on facts that are designed to pit one racial group against the other. It is borne out of the forces of evil.
This is an open dialogue. I live in AZ where Scottsdale Fashion Mall was looted. I didn't need to listen to the media I seen it for myself. The state went in to immediate curfew. If you feel you live in a society where minorities aren't targeted. Where the police are always right. Where people of this world aren't angry. Then bully for you. God is trying to wake us up. He is saying enough. We must turn back to Jesus Christ. We must turn back to the Catholic Church. We must ask forgiveness. We must be better to our fellow humans. We must do better. Nothing that I just said is coming from the mainstream media. They do not speak of God or the Catholic church. They do not speak of Jesus Christ as the answer to our problems. I stand by all of my statements. May God bless everyone who reads this.
I think you forget many non-négociable points: redistribution of the goods, the general destination of goods, redistributive justice, commutative justice etc.
Both parties really fight for classical liberal and enlightenment philosophy so Catholics shouldn't support either parties. We need a Christian Federalist Party that actually protects Christian values.
It is refreshing to hear priests say social justice and welfare is important, what are the answers, I do not know.
What's wrong with Trump? Why not vote republican in November if trump and Mike pence are in charge?
O man can't wait for the comments on this one 😂