Just ran a youth festival in the UK on the subject of Philoxenia: the spiritual discipline of hospitality. Great that this theme is buzzing around in other places as well (I heard of another recent event in France on the same). Godspeed!
I would like to hear discussion about 56:32 from Richard and other Orthodox historians, as well as from clergy. American Orthodox Christians don't have to agree on every nuance or political approach; however, I'm guessing there are some fundamentals-based on an EO worldview and even on doctrines-that we should know as they relate to our identity within the Church.
There is such a thing as race/ nation/ tribe as a symbolic cathegory. Just like there exist a cathegory for a cat or a dog. A cat can have three legs, but saying "cats have three legs" is wrong. Cats have four legs.
i usually ignore using race as a term just because it is way too general and arbitrary i could be wrong but i like using ethnos defined as language and lip passed through lineage applied to a time and place
It's why CRT is very dumb. My mom is jamaican my dad is italian american/austro hungarian ethnically. According to CRT my dad being white would be the oppressor and my mom the oppressed but the only slave holders in my family tree are on my mom's side! It's a very low resolution lense (race) to look at very important issues.
42:15 Ok catholics did not just oppose evolution early on, you had some Jesuit priest like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin who did advocate for evolution in 19th century.
Simultaneously an interesting and wholly unsatisfying conversation. Is your solution to America's race problems that everyone becomes Orthodox? Yeah that sure would be nice wouldn't it. In the meantime however, we have to deal with reality as it actually is. Neither Jew nor Greek is not a statement about biology! God made us different, and those differences have serious consequences for us in the world. Pretending that White people and Black people are the same is false, and therefore not Orthodox. Obviously Richard touched on the truth of our differences but couched it so carefully that he didn't end up saying much that was actually useful. It's nice to virtue signal about how diverse your parish is but I know as a man from the south you damn well don't want to live in a black neighborhood. Does that make you evil or simply capable of pattern recognition?
Interesting. I wonder if Jesus would have avoided living in a black neighborhood because of simple pattern recognition? You're probably not a racist, but you're definitely not a Christian in my book.
@@witherfinger @cosimoidemedici8550 I don't know if I would have minded living in or near a virtuous black neighborhood in the south in the 1920's. I would have been terrified of living in an Italian neighborhood from the same time period. This has to do less with skin color and more to do with the degrading effect of organized crime and psychological warfare on individuals and communities, both black and otherwise. Not all black neighborhoods are demonically degraded, although many are. I would feel just as uncomfortable in a tattoo shop full of white people with satanic tattoos all over their bodies. If I walked into a Russian Orthodox church in Africa, I would feel comfortable. I would trust an African Orthodox priest to hear my confession and to serve the eucharist. I know this because I have met them and been in such churches. There is more to the binding power of the mysteries than you would think. And yes, the solution is that everyone becomes Orthodox.
@@consciousstream5036 You wouldn't have been horrified if you were Italian it isn't ABOUT skin colour, but people are different, cultures are different, and we can't fall into the modern trap that assumes we are all interchangeable economic units, i mean individuals. There ARE race problems in the states and anywhere that has pretended that multicultural society was a great idea. Very rarely have the regular people said this mind you, this has been an imposition from our rulers for quite some time. The moment you walk out of the Orthoodox church in Africa, I bet you'll feel a lot less comfortable. Because you probably aren't an African, and people that aren't African feel out of place in Africa, just like African's tend to feel out of place in Europe. For some reason our rulers have decided we must destroy our own civilization to make room for people who feel uncomfortable here. The solution would be that everyone becomes Orthodox, or Christian at the very least, if we lived in an ideal place. We do not
Off topic, forgive me, but. WHAT ABOUT...what about the G.O.C. in America? This. one Archbishop Gregory, located [I believe] in Denver, CO, not to be confused with the G.O.C. (Genuine Orthodox CHRISTIANS of Greece) and... in America, notably associated with Metropolitan Demetrius, who is in charged of its parishes in the Western Hemisphere. I wrote to the Metropolitan regarding Archbishop Gregory and received a serious, h mincing-no-words reply. I contacted the Metropolitan after something that A-bishop Gregory told me left me feeling unsettled to my core. I'm not even certain by whom Archbishop Gregory is ordained and wondered if either of you were aware of Gregory. I have no doubt but what Met. Demetrius is a disciple of Christ, so I DID take his reply to me to heart.
I am halfway through then I realized you are related to Father Peter Heers. You almost have the same voice and tone.
It's so funny because despite their similarities, their approaches are opposite. Haha
17:18 congrats to Richard for the N word pass!
7:30 This is the 3rd time in 3 days I've read or heard St. Nikolai. Can't be a coincidence at this point.
Part 2! Part 2! I'd love to hear a continued conversation on Israel today :)
Just ran a youth festival in the UK on the subject of Philoxenia: the spiritual discipline of hospitality. Great that this theme is buzzing around in other places as well (I heard of another recent event in France on the same). Godspeed!
I would like to hear discussion about 56:32 from Richard and other Orthodox historians, as well as from clergy. American Orthodox Christians don't have to agree on every nuance or political approach; however, I'm guessing there are some fundamentals-based on an EO worldview and even on doctrines-that we should know as they relate to our identity within the Church.
Looking forward to this 🙏
There is such a thing as race/ nation/ tribe as a symbolic cathegory.
Just like there exist a cathegory for a cat or a dog.
A cat can have three legs, but saying "cats have three legs" is wrong. Cats have four legs.
i usually ignore using race as a term just because it is way too general and arbitrary i could be wrong but i like using ethnos defined as language and lip passed through lineage applied to a time and place
It's why CRT is very dumb. My mom is jamaican my dad is italian american/austro hungarian ethnically. According to CRT my dad being white would be the oppressor and my mom the oppressed but the only slave holders in my family tree are on my mom's side! It's a very low resolution lense (race) to look at very important issues.
Have any of you listened to the channel of Asha Logos?
I’ve always considered inland southerners a separate nation from the rest of the country.
Fantastic conversation, but my taxonomical brain kind of expected definitions. What is a nation? What is a race?
Amen
42:15 Ok catholics did not just oppose evolution early on, you had some Jesuit priest like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin who did advocate for evolution in 19th century.
Evolution changes the Anthropology of Scripture.
God is not a Monkey, Man is made in God's Image.
Ask Jared Taylor or Dr.Edward Dutton what Race is and means if you're having an issue with it.
What a long conversation about an event that most of us were not in attendance at.
Simultaneously an interesting and wholly unsatisfying conversation. Is your solution to America's race problems that everyone becomes Orthodox? Yeah that sure would be nice wouldn't it. In the meantime however, we have to deal with reality as it actually is. Neither Jew nor Greek is not a statement about biology! God made us different, and those differences have serious consequences for us in the world. Pretending that White people and Black people are the same is false, and therefore not Orthodox.
Obviously Richard touched on the truth of our differences but couched it so carefully that he didn't end up saying much that was actually useful.
It's nice to virtue signal about how diverse your parish is but I know as a man from the south you damn well don't want to live in a black neighborhood. Does that make you evil or simply capable of pattern recognition?
nailed it
Maybe you’re getting into something Orthodox Christians aren’t really interested in.
Interesting. I wonder if Jesus would have avoided living in a black neighborhood because of simple pattern recognition? You're probably not a racist, but you're definitely not a Christian in my book.
@@witherfinger @cosimoidemedici8550 I don't know if I would have minded living in or near a virtuous black neighborhood in the south in the 1920's. I would have been terrified of living in an Italian neighborhood from the same time period. This has to do less with skin color and more to do with the degrading effect of organized crime and psychological warfare on individuals and communities, both black and otherwise. Not all black neighborhoods are demonically degraded, although many are. I would feel just as uncomfortable in a tattoo shop full of white people with satanic tattoos all over their bodies.
If I walked into a Russian Orthodox church in Africa, I would feel comfortable. I would trust an African Orthodox priest to hear my confession and to serve the eucharist. I know this because I have met them and been in such churches. There is more to the binding power of the mysteries than you would think.
And yes, the solution is that everyone becomes Orthodox.
@@consciousstream5036
You wouldn't have been horrified if you were Italian
it isn't ABOUT skin colour, but people are different, cultures are different, and we can't fall into the modern trap that assumes we are all interchangeable economic units, i mean individuals. There ARE race problems in the states and anywhere that has pretended that multicultural society was a great idea. Very rarely have the regular people said this mind you, this has been an imposition from our rulers for quite some time.
The moment you walk out of the Orthoodox church in Africa, I bet you'll feel a lot less comfortable. Because you probably aren't an African, and people that aren't African feel out of place in Africa, just like African's tend to feel out of place in Europe. For some reason our rulers have decided we must destroy our own civilization to make room for people who feel uncomfortable here.
The solution would be that everyone becomes Orthodox, or Christian at the very least, if we lived in an ideal place. We do not
Ethnic groups is a cathegory like any other.
You dont need a biology degree to spot the difference between them.
Off topic, forgive me, but. WHAT ABOUT...what about the G.O.C. in America? This. one Archbishop Gregory, located [I believe] in Denver, CO, not to be confused with the G.O.C. (Genuine Orthodox CHRISTIANS of Greece) and... in America, notably associated with Metropolitan Demetrius, who is in charged of its parishes in the Western Hemisphere. I wrote to the Metropolitan regarding Archbishop Gregory and received a serious, h mincing-no-words reply. I contacted the Metropolitan after something that A-bishop Gregory told me left me feeling unsettled to my core. I'm not even certain by whom Archbishop Gregory is ordained and wondered if either of you were aware of Gregory. I have no doubt but what Met. Demetrius is a disciple of Christ, so I DID take his reply to me to heart.
so richard is contributing to greater albania ha
Ethnic groups is a cathegory like any other.
You dont need a biology degree to spot the difference between them.