Helluva Boss: Explaining Blitzo X Stolas

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  • @nathanblackburn1193
    @nathanblackburn1193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7795

    I think the best way to describe Stolas X Blitzo is "a relationship that is very much unhealthy where both parties are taking advantage of each over for different things and yet it's the second best relationship in the show and has the potential to become something legitimately good for both of them."

    • @gremlintoastt0088
      @gremlintoastt0088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      Reasons why I love it

    • @susankornas2613
      @susankornas2613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I don't want to hate, but why do you think they are "the second best relationship in the show"? I'm not asking why aren't they the best, more like, why are they actually good?

    • @nathanblackburn1193
      @nathanblackburn1193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +412

      @@susankornas2613 Well I mean first of all there aren't that many relationships in the show in the first place (at least romantic ones) and when I say "second best" I don't necessarily mean in terms of stability as much as enjoyableness, Moxie and Millie are obviously the best relationship in the whole series both in stability and enjoyableness.

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

      I think the truth is that bad relationships make good stories while good couples provide good role models. I think Stloitz is the slowest of slow burns

    • @FunWithColeen
      @FunWithColeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yep

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8648

    Can a toxic relationships work with beings who thrive on a toxic lifestyle?
    That's for the fans to fight over.

    • @undeadblizzard
      @undeadblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      Truth in fiction Dangerous People love best. Amazing lovin is hard to fine. Stability can be boring.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

      i mean it IS hell, I doubt healthy relationships are common anyway

    • @greenbird6435
      @greenbird6435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

      @@sarafontanini7051 moxxie and millie aswell as charlie and vaggie are the exception

    • @So_Indecisive
      @So_Indecisive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@greenbird6435 true

    • @10RexTheWolf01
      @10RexTheWolf01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@sarafontanini7051 I feel like it would be the same as on earth. Even though it is hell everyone down there is not vile.

  • @veermudambi5795
    @veermudambi5795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6506

    “Choose his daughter over Blitz any day” - as well he should.
    I actually want to see that - the thing about Stolas being so ridiculous is that it makes you curious to see his serious side besides the occasional glimpses. Since you know it exists - he wouldn’t have survived this long if it didn’t (I doubt Hell shelters many people - even nobility) and we saw him casually dispatch that imp in episode 2.
    His daughter seems to be one of the few things to make him drop the act. It’s clear that he didn’t really need a body guard in the practical sense, he just wanted Blitz at his beck and call - and possibly for the sake of appearances. Throughout the episode he pretended to be helpless but when he was having a moment with his daughter he took care of an attacker without a second thought.
    PS. To those who might say “maybe it takes a lot of power or he can’t do it often,” I’ll point out he turned away even before the statue hit the ground which implies it’s a simple matter and something he can do whenever he needs to.

    • @naochan133
      @naochan133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +255

      I dont know why he says it like is a bad thing, I would be very wary of anyone who would choose their lover over their daughter

    • @DeathKitta
      @DeathKitta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Maybe he didn't want to be distracted by constantly getting rid of hitmans.

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I've seen a fanfiction that's been toying with that a _tiny_ bit _Saving Blitzø_ *&* _Healing Blitzø_ by TalosLives. It leans _heavily_ into the more serious ways to interpret and shape the world of _Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss_ and adds a _ton_ of sympathetic nuance to the characters in a few chapters, but keeps them pretty solidly in character despite treating their actions a bit lighter than I would at times (or maybe I'm just too cynical, I dunno). It's definitely worth a read, and surprisingly it doesn't demonize Stella in the slightest, though it doesn't let her off lightly either.

    • @about50pyros55
      @about50pyros55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      he is a powerful demon that is reinforced by the specialized weaponry needed to take him out also him casually turning a few imps to stone.
      to him he might have already experienced people trying to kill him and is so used to it he does not really care

    • @SirLuckySlime
      @SirLuckySlime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tbh i don't think he cares about any of his family that much. Some might argue that the loo loo land episode shows how much he cares about his daughter, but I'd argue the exact opposite. After the episode he goes back to casually flirting and having sex with blitzo as if that whole conversation with his daughter never happened. Heck, the only benefit he gets out of his deal with blitzo is banging- and Octavia makes it obvious she doesn't like the fact that he's cheating. So does he put his daughter's feelings over his and decide that the deal he's getting a huge loss in isn't worth hurting his daughter so bad? No, he just acts like its fine 2 episodes later. And I don't think I even need to explain how neither Stolas nor Stella care about eachother-

  • @pheobeydomea2477
    @pheobeydomea2477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5245

    I just realized that they are both caring dads

    • @voltbot1887
      @voltbot1887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      that i can agree on

    • @mayarimarjorie5624
      @mayarimarjorie5624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      They are and that is why they click as well without them really realizing that trait of theirs.

    • @fatcat1414
      @fatcat1414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      Octavia and Loona would get along so well imo.

    • @pheobeydomea2477
      @pheobeydomea2477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@fatcat1414 I could see it

    • @dislook3991
      @dislook3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Did you all seriously just realized that? It was blatantly obvious on Blitz-o’s end. And Stolas wasn’t being subtle either whenever he’s around his daughter. One’s oblivious about his daughter’s emotional state while the other is uber observant about his daughter life.
      Side note: if Loona was 17 when Blitz-o adopted her does that mean in human years she was a little less than 2 and 1/2? Or was she 119?

  • @virginiafernandez6846
    @virginiafernandez6846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3759

    ... Can we at least acknowledge SO MANY other series on adult animation (aka, Rick and Morty, American Dad, Family Guy...) have relationships that are so much more fucked up and yet frame them like it’s a good thing?

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      That has quite a bit of merit.

    • @nerdynon-binary3517
      @nerdynon-binary3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I can kinda agree

    • @allybratz
      @allybratz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +456

      Ill take a toxic relationship that knows and outright declares its toxic over a toxic relationship trying to mask itself as normal or expected any day.
      I don’t mind reading or seeing fictional relationships that are horrible to one or all parties involved as long as it’s showcased to be a bad relationship rather than paraded around like its okay or supposed to be like that.

    • @dessertcactus
      @dessertcactus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      *cough* steven universe

    • @samanthakelly718
      @samanthakelly718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      Atleast this show knows it. They’re not expecting you to like Stolas and/or get behind the relationship. I can respect that.

  • @maskawin89
    @maskawin89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12413

    Okay hear me out: Stolas is aware his wife hired assassins as seen in LooLooLand. He's not aware that she stepped up her game with Striker. "I WANT THAT F*CKER DEAD" could be heard by Stolas as "hehe silly imp assassins"

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +950

      I think he knows Stella wants him dead but I don't think he's aware of any assassins. The Loo Loo Land attackers seemed more like simple imps who just wanted to get the money and glory that would come with killing a Goetia.

    • @Raziel312
      @Raziel312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +367

      He'd have to be pretty deep into the "bored, jaded nobel" trope to regard attempted assassination as something to spice up his day. Still, not beyond the realm of possibility.

    • @ciasdopops1176
      @ciasdopops1176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Sto-zo had to put this somewhere people would see their pet name.
      im not into the whole shipping the make believe humanoids shit but, I feel like I came up with a good name.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@ciasdopops1176 You know the O in Blitzo's name is silent, right? So it would be pronounced stowz which doesn't seem like the best combination of their names.

    • @ciasdopops1176
      @ciasdopops1176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@47ratsinahoodie if the "o" is silent then it'd be sto-zo pronounced stoz where'd the "w" come from in your rendition, also in the aims of word play convention is sometimes ignored, to further invalidate your point.

  • @ShadyRK9
    @ShadyRK9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5438

    Well that intro sure was interesting... 😳

    • @Noah-pi9cn
      @Noah-pi9cn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      It was pretty sus... 😳😳😳

    • @Thali5932
      @Thali5932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      U need to watch the show💀💀

    • @Thali5932
      @Thali5932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It's like 6 eps. Which is way too few😭

    • @dingdong896
      @dingdong896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Thali5932 because it hard to make one

    • @Thali5932
      @Thali5932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@dingdong896 I know that. I'm just saying that the show is really good and from watching the six you'd want to see more

  • @LowbrowDeluxe
    @LowbrowDeluxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3624

    I don't think Blitz has intimacy issues in general exactly, rather he is unable to accept or process it except physically. Everything with Stolas, the innuendo and outright threats with M&M, and in the pilot even hints at being a little too affectionate with Luna. Stolas on the other hand, other than being the world's freakiest power bottom is passive. He's never examined anything in his life. Not his position, not whether he deserves it, not his duty (which from the lullaby I feel may very well lead to his inevitable death at some prophesied and pre-determined point), not the marriage he was either pushed into or outright arranged for him, not the caste hierarchy of Hell, none of it. As a result he's oblivious to how anything affects anyone else because he's never really examined anything enough to be affected, except his daughter (but not really re-examined since whatever initial wonderment when she was a child) and Blitz. I don't think Stolas is getting off on slumming it with an Imp, I think meeting Blitz was literally the first time in his life he really truly felt something for himself. The first time he acted beyond passive acceptance of his duty and place in the world. He is a huge freak, but also he's kind of in that over-compensating first crush kind of late bloomer having their Hot Girl Summer at 42 after a lifetime of being a bit of a recluse and scholar.

    • @animehearthd5469
      @animehearthd5469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      this!!!

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      GET OUT OF MY HEAD, GET OUTTA MY HEAD!!!

    • @10RexTheWolf01
      @10RexTheWolf01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      I thought Stolas was just tired of his life and Blitz gave him something new. High Status, arranged marriage, duties, a name doesn't really seem much after doing it for a while.

    • @LowbrowDeluxe
      @LowbrowDeluxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@10RexTheWolf01 Yeah, I could see that being part of it, too. He's just a little too laid back, though. Especially for being subordinate only to Lucifer and the 7 deadly sins. It comes across as his whole life rather than just middle age ennui. I really think it has something to do with prognostication, either he always knows most of what is going to happen and so doesn't feel any need to act to change things, or he knows when he's fated to die so all his life he's just been passively traveling towards that day.

    • @pandemicprojections7169
      @pandemicprojections7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

  • @Oxurus
    @Oxurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1596

    You know.... you raise some really good points... I don't know if they'll actually do it in the show, but damn... Seeing Blitzo finally snap at Stolas would make for one hell of a good character arc.

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I really want this to happen. As much as I love Stolas and Stolitz, things really need to change if the relationship is to become healthy. Stolas needs to be given a slap of reality, yk?

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@evieh6900 What i don't get it is why everybody is siding or rather acting as if only stollas is in the wrong. Blitzo decieded to sleep with stollas to steal the book, and as we all know he's a really powerfull being so stealing that book was never going to work since stollas could have it back with a snap of his fingers. Stollas offered an option where both benefits from it and blitzo went with it. Bc why would stollas give his grimoir to an imp he just sleep with once? Blitzo also need a lot of slaps of reality too, , you could say the exact same thing about moxxie and blitzo, their relationship is exactly the same except the sex ual part and for me it's even worse bc stollas "diminish him" by trying to show "affectiont or endearment" to blitzo in f up way meanwhile blitzo just humilliate moxxie all the time. He also treats Luna as if she ows him something all the time for addopting her, the only charcter he kinda treats somehow well is millie. Also they're demons and are in hell you can't expect rainbows a flowers specially from blitzo and stollas

    • @theofficalsilentraven
      @theofficalsilentraven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would love to see that

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@sebastyann123 yeah very true. People tend to focus on Stolas more because he has a more obvious power imbalance in the relationship, and tbh Blitzo is sort of justified in his reactions with Stolas. He still has to learn to respect everyone else, however. But his lack of respect doesn't seem to be causing people the same amount of harm, however Stolas's causes way more obvious trouble, if that makes sense, so people focus on Stolas's end of the relationship more.

    • @redpanda6497
      @redpanda6497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theofficalsilentraven Same.

  • @starsartbar
    @starsartbar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1878

    I am so glad that you're willing to talk about Good and Bad LGBTQ relationships and that you go into the depths of the writing with these complex characters!

    • @strxwbxrry_420
      @strxwbxrry_420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Exactly, but its not just queer relationships. It's all relationships. Most time you don't see people making videos about why certain ships can potentially be abusive, unless you do and I just live under a rock

    • @kamxcz8417
      @kamxcz8417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No such thing as a good one

    • @starsartbar
      @starsartbar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@kamxcz8417 ooo how edgy

    • @kamxcz8417
      @kamxcz8417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@starsartbar trolled

    • @sprite-master3515
      @sprite-master3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@kamxcz8417 edgy much- did you just got born or something-

  • @Jasmin-lg3gf
    @Jasmin-lg3gf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2311

    The relationship works for a variety of reasons.
    On the one hand, Stolas is a dominant Sub, while Blitz is a submissive Dom. This balances the balance of power between the two and prevents abuse.
    Another point is that the relationship is a strange mix of emotions and professionalism. Stolas has feelings for Blitz, but he accepts it when he is reluctant to return them.
    For his part, Blitz mostly sees the relationship as business, but there are pictures that show that he also enjoys the time with Stolas.
    You could see this conflict in the scene with Striker. Blitz has thought seriously about his offer, if only briefly. One side of Blitz seriously wants to be with Stolas, the other wants recognition at all costs.
    In the end, they take advantage of each other and have feelings for each other, which cannot go on in the long run. Not because the two of them have a problem with it, but because someone is going to take advantage of this unstable relationship to harm one or both of them.

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Exactly my thoughts (EDIT: I'm not sure about _prevents_ abuse though. Alters _how_ it could go _maybe..._ I'm not a psychologist so I'm not confident on that). I actually got into a discussion about this topic somewhere, and I didn't handle it as well as that. Nice way with words!

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      I'd argue that sexual power dynamics have nothing to do with Blitzo and Stolas' relationship power dynamic and disparity but otherwise I kind of agree.

    • @realhumanguynotafish
      @realhumanguynotafish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      In what world does having an equal power balance sexually have anything to do with preventing abuse? Blitzo is abused by him verbally all the time?? What you said makes no sense at all. Wtf
      ALSO, Blitz DID accept Striker’s offer, he only changed that when Moxxie came in. Obviously he would have to pretend he wasn’t serious either way, whether he meant it or not. He didn’t know where Moxxie was, didn’t even know Moxxie was trapped with Millie before, so he couldn’t have known Moxxie would turn on the light right as he agreed to join him.
      His reaction to Moxxie coming in even seems over-exaggerated, as if he knew he’d have to try and show Moxxie that he didn’t actually mean it, especially if he really did mean that he wanted to join Striker. Even the way he looks out the window after Striker escapes shows he may be thinking about his offer again.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@realhumanguynotafish I don't know about Blitzo thinking about joining Striker for real but I do definitely agree that Stolas is almost always verbally abusing and harassing Blitzo. Like SC said, Stolas has the thing Blitzo needs so Blitzo has to give Stolas what he wants.

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@realhumanguynotafish Yeah, total misunderstanding of the situation or at the very least you _cannot_ see what is meant here or the more sensible side of the scene in the episode.
      Blitzø is not _verbally abused_ by Stolas, he's teased and condescended to at worst, which is still NOT okay, and might count as verbal abuse in some situations, but arguably is not the case here. Stolas and Blitzø have a power dynamic/transactional arrangement first and foremost, with Blitzø getting to keep the book in exchange for Stolas getting sex, and Stolas does not use either his words or the book to gain more power over Blitzø then he already has by default, or consolidate it either. They both know where they stand, and what they get out of it, although Stolas does seem interested in spending more time with Blitzø, he makes offers, not forces or coerces.
      How the fuck do you know whether Blitzø didn't meet Moxxie? The first thing he says then is "Took you long enough Moxxie!" and then mocks Striker, which pretty strongly suggests they met up off-screen to either plan this (which would explain how Blitzø knew Striker was planning to kill Stolas) or that Moxxie got his phone and contacted Blitzø remotely and Blitzø was closer, but expected Moxxie to show up.
      That all aside, you are making _huge_ leaps of logic here, his reaction does not seem in any overexaggerated, considering he's in a tense situation, and Striker was pushing his buttons pretty hard. As for looking out the window, what the hell are you smoking to not realize that Blitzø was more likely trying to see if he could go after Striker or get a shot on him before he got away? They had just been fighting to the death and were intending to kill him, which Striker himself took note of "Maybe you'll get me next time, _Blitzey_ "
      You MIGHT be right, but your interpretation takes a _lot_ of loose reasoning and assumptions to make sense, and even then it leaves more questions than answers, like why if Blitzø was more seriously interested, didn't he go through with it? He and Striker could've easily taken pretty much everyone, and if Stolas was more of a strict negative or abuser in his life, killing him _and_ getting a better job without the complication of running I.M.P. would be a no-brainer, so that would lead to more questions of what would turn Blitzø against all those positives. So yeah, Occam's Razor wins out for me at least, and I'll take the explanation that actually makes _more_ sense, and call out the one that doesn't. Good day.

  • @SallyBMcgill
    @SallyBMcgill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +828

    Personally, I just want them to talk, Stolas and Blizto, and establish exactly what the relationship is. Blizto chose not to kill Stolas when he had the chance and Stolas must feel something besides lust if he is still with Blizto despite the issues it causes his family. Just give me an answer!

    • @youdonthavehumor2545
      @youdonthavehumor2545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      answer: well you see that s

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yeah but how could we call ourselves shippers if we didn't dig mutual pining and slow burn

    • @mnstrchkn136
      @mnstrchkn136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I really don't think Viv will just say something like that outright. It's funner to figure it out ourselves.

    • @todoronialfredo6153
      @todoronialfredo6153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Like the video said, Stolas is pretty oblivious and I don'y think he'll realize he's putting his daughter in danger until it actually happens. He's being selfish and indulging in things that are fun to him, he doesn't think of the consequences and when he finally has to face them it'll be a big slap to the face of how he's been acting and we'll get to see character development. However, this may lead to him realizing in order to keep his daughter safe and not get in trouble with other higher ups in Hell, he'll need to let go of Blitzo. I don't ship it but I like looking into their dynamic and what might happen with them in the future. I also favor Blitzo and don't want him to be in a toxic relationship with someone who basically mocks him.

    • @hubertberrum6242
      @hubertberrum6242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@todoronialfredo6153 damn that's pretty interesting and I do agree on some of that

  • @TheNegative69
    @TheNegative69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +781

    "Literally has all the power despite being the BOTTOM"

    • @leasagna2202
      @leasagna2202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I mean yea the term Power bottom exists/lh

    • @TheNegative69
      @TheNegative69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leasagna2202 lol. I'm no bottom though
      😜

    • @gigijanae1460
      @gigijanae1460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Why am I the only one who thought Stolas was the top but just a very feminine sadistic type of top😭

    • @choerrix
      @choerrix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@gigijanae1460 yeah I thought that as well lol

    • @erikaescamilla1141
      @erikaescamilla1141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@gigijanae1460 They might be a switch but who knows tho 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @leviantler8702
    @leviantler8702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Ngl Episode 6 was the tipping point for me. Before then, I strictly saw Blitzo saving Stolis just for the economical perspective. If he looses Stolis, he looses the book. If he looses the book, he looses his business.
    But episode 6? Whoo boy…yah, no, they’re in love. But I can definitely see Stolis viewing Blitzo as being lesser than him. Not drastically, but enough to make things dysfunctional. It’s so interesting and unpredictable and complicated and that’s why I love this ship sm

    • @ilohoa
      @ilohoa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      it's so well explained and I agree! (it's Stolas btw not Stolis)

    • @okaywaybright.1565
      @okaywaybright.1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I disagree with one point. I believe Stolas definitely has some respect for Blitzo, judging from their cute little instagram moments together (e.g. Stolas sending Blitzo his horse hoodie, Stolas getting all worried when Blitzo went missing, going out of his way to save him, drawing him a nice picture of him and his horse to cheer him up etc.) I can tell Stolas is fond of him enough he doesn't view him as "lesser" at all, who knows. Sure they have a "beneficial" sexual relationship together but there definitely is some form of love here :)

    • @kaiserhundkek2531
      @kaiserhundkek2531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@okaywaybright.1565 so then Stolas just doesn’t realize what his patronizing does to Blitz’s ego then yes?

    • @okaywaybright.1565
      @okaywaybright.1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kaiserhundkek2531 Presumably so lol. I mean he never brought it up cause he's the type to deal with his problems on his own. Bird man couldn't have guessed.

    • @leviantler8702
      @leviantler8702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ilohoa oops

  • @Cornin33
    @Cornin33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    I think the ship is either going to work like a charm or absolutely descend into madness

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think it is at madness when your wife is planning your death and you are still looking up hook up tips while your daughter is listening to music.
      I think it will be a new form of super madness where Lucifer Prince of Hell will just knock on his door. cover his hands and tell them not to spook the ravens.

    • @boyzilla78productions
      @boyzilla78productions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly thats how I can basically describe the series as of now.

  • @Djinn_Entonic
    @Djinn_Entonic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    My theory is that in the lowest point of blitz, all down in the lack of self worth spiral, Stolas is going to say how he see him, how he is lucky to have no one with high expectations because he can prove them wrong, how he is fun, how he is free, how great he is and how he, a Prince of the underworld, envy him and love him. Stolas is basically in the second adolescence, something common in members of the GRSM since most of us had our adolescence in Narnia.

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I had to search up "GRSM" to get it and "since most of us had our adolescence in Narnia." is by far the best way to explain my still closeted ass lol.
      that aside I agree with you and i hope this is the case bc there' also the possibility of going completly opposite of that. Also why is everybody theorizing that stollas will die?. I don't want him to :c

    • @simonvillarreal623
      @simonvillarreal623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@sebastyann123 in the second episode when he sings to lil Via he talks about the 7 rings collapsing and even if everything is to be destroyed and he is lost she will always be safe

  • @veermudambi5795
    @veermudambi5795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +850

    It’s well thought out but I have to be that guy and object to using the stereotype that bottoms don’t usually have power in a relationship. “Stolas has all the power despite being the bottom” - relationship dynamics are not the same as sexual dynamics and they don’t necessarily reflect each other.

    • @malepatternbaldness.
      @malepatternbaldness. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Stolas definitely a power bottom

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@malepatternbaldness. but the thing is that stollas isn't even a bottom, he's more of a versbottom since, considering blitzo threats in the park and also stollas bit in the pilot, Stollas isn't always the sumbissive one, he may preffer that role tho

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@sebastyann123 I've heard it mentioned on the TVTropes page that Stolas might be something of a "brat" which from what was explained is someone who is the bottom, but antagonizes the dominant on purpose to get "punishment"...

    • @QueenMelodyAngel13
      @QueenMelodyAngel13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I couldn’t agree more. Quite often big powerful people are submissive in the bedroom, and sometimes people who feel like they don’t get enough power in their life like to be more dominant in the bedroom. Actually I would say that’s how this couple works so well together.

    • @QueenMelodyAngel13
      @QueenMelodyAngel13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@balanc-joy9187 I actually think this is why he says the cutesy stuff, to get on blitzo’s nerves, so he can revive a greater punishment.

  • @dazzlingdexter5060
    @dazzlingdexter5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +482

    Imagine an episode where Stolas is called out for his crap. I do not think Stolas means to be demeaning even to his duaghter. He seems rich and likely sheltered and he kind of just doing things trying to be happy. Yet it seems hw isn't fullfilled and it seems he doesn't care about or wants his title. He just follows obligations to appease the royal obligations. I think Blitzo likely seduced him for the book but than Stolas realized hw liked something about Blitzo.

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      And I hope stollas also give blitzo a reality check on his crap. It would be epic if both of them through everything in the open bc blitzo has a lot of crap too and not only towats stollas

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      it should also be noted that Stolas is also a noble in hell so he likely doesn't know what behaviour is actually considered wrong since I doubt most, if any, of the nobles of hell are good people

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@sarafontanini7051 yeah, but that's not really an excuse for behavior like this. Stolas is being extremely selfish by prioritizing his affair over his family. Not to say he probably doesn't have motivations- it seems like he's lived a very lonely life, doing what was expected of him in a marriage where he likely wasn't happy/attracted to his partner. So when he meets someone he is genuinely attracted to, he has no idea how to act; he acts like a teenager in love for the first time. He(probably) thinks he's being cute with Blitzo, with the baby talk, but he's so self absorbed he can't think that someone like Blitzo, who is miles behind him on the class level, would see that as condescending. Same with Octavia- in LooLoo Land, he treated her like a child instead of the almost adult young woman she is. It's like he's so oblivious he can't or straight up refuses to see how he's harming others, so he puts up this pretense in a way to distract himself from the reality of his situation and convince himself things will turn out alright, even though they clearly won't; his life is at risk at this point and he still won't change. That's why I'm hoping he'll be forced to face reality at some point.

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@evieh6900 but when octavia told him what she was thinking/going through they came to a somehow resolution and aparently their relationship is in good terms now. Blitz should be able to say what he thinks in a not joking/serious way. You all only "attack"/demand stollas character when blitz is equally fcked up than him. Also Yall also seem to forget they are demons born and raised in HELL. How do Yall expect them to be good people lol

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@sebastyann123 Stolas is my favorite character. I can like a character while acknowledging his flaws. Blitzos behavior with Moxxie and Millie is inappropriate and borders on sexual harassment. I often wonder why he isnt called out more.Them being from Hell doesn't mean they can't be *characters*. I don't expect them to be good people, I just expect them to be interesting characters. Which they are! But that doesn't mean they aren't flawed.

  • @meiru2453
    @meiru2453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    10:40 Not true actually, when Stella asked if he fucks other imps Stolas was righteously shocked and said "of course not". I don't think that Stolas just wants to bang someone with a lower class. He tries to find someone as broken as him. Blitz is scared to get close to anyone because people he cares about eventually go away but its Stolas that obnoxiously pushes himself on Blitz despite his push-away attitude. Both Stolas and Blitz are failed by love and they cope by pretending they only need sexual interactions. But ironically none of them is looking for someone else than each other.

    • @yakitori52
      @yakitori52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Now that I think of it in the 2nd episode LooLooLand Stolas calls Blitzo "the only man who can f*ck me"...

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Makes sense with the latest episode. Dunno what its implication in the future.

  • @thunderheadcinema6743
    @thunderheadcinema6743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1614

    I'm just so starved for M/M romantic representation that I'll take whatever I can

    • @MMELANDREA27.
      @MMELANDREA27. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Same, 😆

    • @IlBuonDiavolo131313
      @IlBuonDiavolo131313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Just go read fanfictions, there it's oversaturated.

    • @irena8426
      @irena8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      @@IlBuonDiavolo131313 I think they mean canon mlm representation

    • @GothBiDemiGirl
      @GothBiDemiGirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Showers Flowers and Fangs by Aidan Wayne is gay. And the author (they/them) writes queer stories because "queer people deserve happy endings too damn it". And for pride mon5h my library gave paper slips with different kinds of stories (bi, lesbian, trans, etc) and I can give you gay book ones if you want.

    • @yeah5895
      @yeah5895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I'd recomend reading Webtoons, there are a bunch of M/M relations there

  • @Rando_mIndividual
    @Rando_mIndividual 3 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    Unrelated, but I’m glad Blitzø does somewhat cares about Moxie (Or is it Moxxie? I dunno)
    In episode 3, where all of the succubi and incubi attacked Moxie, Blitzø warned Moxie about what they’ll do (though this part might’ve been just for comedy)
    And after he ran out of the room then said he needed to lie down, it led to Blitzø getting pissed off and then bursting into the room with Veronica and her friends
    He says, “ALRIGHT WH****S! If you’re going to be shitty to my employees, then I challenge you to a fucking…challenge!”
    In episode 5, when Striker made Blitzø shoot at Moxie, Blitzø says, “Oh you DADDY FUCKER!” then bites Striker
    He also congratulates Moxie for standing up to Millie’s parents, but he could be just teasing so I’m not sure on that one-
    Even so, I appreciate Blitzø for the very least caring about his employees, even the one he bickers the most with

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Following your analysis you can also compare moxxie and blitzo's relationship with blitzo and stollas. Where blitzo takes the place of moxie. Even if blitzo cares about moxiee he still humiliates him every second, kinda what stolla does to him with the difference (for me at least) that stollas doesn't do it intentionally unlike blitzo towars moxxie

    • @misschivous6435
      @misschivous6435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sebastyann123 agreed

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      yeah Like he infantilizes Moxxie... even though Moxxie is the one who is more mature, more responsible more empathetic and has a happy relationship. But BLitzo still wants to get a leg up on him, like his little brother or submissive lover. Moxxie is our soft boi, but he has a lot of the things that Blitz actually needs to be happy. Otherwise he'd just be a drunk like Verosika or a monster like Striker.
      But weirdly Moxxie must get something out of it. Or they are going to have a banger of a bottle episode where Moxxie beats Blitzo up.
      I've been trying to figure out why Moxxie doesn't quit his job. Maybe he's paternal or brotherly thing. I can't figure out why Moxxie doesn't just drop kick him

    • @misschivous6435
      @misschivous6435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@elizabethlee2136 well i can see why but in episode 5 when we see the 2 v 1 Blitz and Moxxie have a lot of trust n shit, so I'm just assuming that its bc they are wrath demons

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@misschivous6435 Not every dynamic needs a big complicated reason. I think they just like each other and take it out in very different ways. Unless Moxxie starts talking shit about Pop music... then he is insufferabe
      "Because there is nothing wrong with opera... ever."

  • @bunny8936
    @bunny8936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    it's getting scary how many times this guy predicts what happens in the show

  • @pengting8857
    @pengting8857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +804

    You should check out wolfwalkers, if you haven’t already. It’s a movie based on an old Irish folklore of which there are people who can communicate with wolves and become them while they sleep, called wolfwalkers. It also had a pretty artstyle. I think you’d enjoy it.

    • @Wolf-xy7xp
      @Wolf-xy7xp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Agreed it is a great movie that deserves more attention.

    • @sketchycat6223
      @sketchycat6223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s so good! Especially the running with the wolves scene

    • @d00dlep00dle
      @d00dlep00dle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES!! Absolutely agree, also check out Song of the Sea and The Secret of Kells as well, as they're all a part of that Irish folklore trilogy and they're all beautifully animated.

    • @lostaccount8222
      @lostaccount8222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wanna watch it but I don’t have an Apple Movies account or whatever it wanted
      Do you know anywhere where I can watch it for free?

    • @pengting8857
      @pengting8857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lostaccount8222 look up kisscartoon, its where i watched it and many other shows/ movies

  • @shady_mars3259
    @shady_mars3259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    I think Stolas is just super aggressive with his advances due to finding out he's gay and not wanting to be with his wife anymore, along with his marriage going to garbage and living with a abusive spouse the only why he can express himself is flirting and being with Blitz. He's not trying to insult Blitz in any way it's just they don't hang out often and when they do it's only for sex. He doesn't know anything about Blitz so the playful flirting comes out as insults instead a sighs of affection. His relationship with is wife and Blitz are built on misunderstanding and being too scared to converse with them, making him seem like a manipulating and distant asshole when in reality he's just scared his life will fall apart faster if he opens up to anybody.

    • @namedrop721
      @namedrop721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That and using people as mere outlets for whatever need you have at the time. I feel like this uncomfortable point about Stolas would be brought up more if Blitzo claimed to love Stolas and wasn’t in it for the book.

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@namedrop721 I dont think we'll get that immediately. I doubt if Blitzo knows what he feels. And even if he feels anything he seems like the bored, hard bitten, jaded tsundere whose been told dreams are stupid and feelings make him weak.
      Just because Blitz has feelings about Stollas doesn't mean that all the shit that Stollas is doing is okay or evil. Its inherently evil and self destructive, which is why a romance with Blitzo is useful. Because when he let's Blitzo go and loves him without strings attached, that may be the only thing that may win Blitzo broken heart.
      So its pitch perfect for trashy anime ships

    • @sweetlittledumpling9534
      @sweetlittledumpling9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe it seems that way because he can say how he is feeling when it seems that he is going to lose something but choose to ignore everything else. Making this man do sexual things he knows he wouldn’t do if it wasn't for the book. Does seem very manipulative and asshole-ish.

    • @sweetlittledumpling9534
      @sweetlittledumpling9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did he like his wife? I think the stole reason he got married was to have a kid and for the image of the family. Even in hell, he is bound by the rules of the royalty. this man gives me sexually depravity vibes. He found something out he like now as to soak his oats. I definitely do not feel like this man just recently found out he’s gay I definitely feel like he knows he’s gay for a long time. He needs to stay for a while so you know set up shop and have a TV, a washer and dryer, and running water even decorate his door a little before coming out.

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sweetlittledumpling9534 yea. I think it would be very positive message if he can't heal his relationship with his family until he comes out.
      Haha. I wonder if he had sexual feelings for other being. But that is the Fanfic writer in me. Like he was always in the closet. Because I now want him to have an insane freaky deaky porno collection, and some gay awakening crush. Like Lucifer or some other cool Mythological or Biblical dude. and he was just in denial.
      BLitz coming in there like a janitor yelling at him "What the f*ck are you doing back here?"
      And that Stollas has a weird over entitled misplaced victim mentality. But that could be me projecting which is not a good look on anyone.

  • @CatalinaLinal7710
    @CatalinaLinal7710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    These two are a prime example of why I like fictional stories in such hyper-specific and completely out there settings. Sure as hell not a relationship or even just a dynamic I want in anybodys life, but DAMN this is just interesting to watch getting explored

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I find it funny that this guy just sounds like a mellowed out Blitzo. It almost comes off like Blitzo is making a video about himself.

    • @SarcasticChorus
      @SarcasticChorus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      People keep saying that🤣 guess I should just embrace it at this point

    • @ajjean2720
      @ajjean2720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait…….I hear it 😯

    • @WorldWeave
      @WorldWeave ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think I hear it…maybe…but I can’t tell

  • @boocrimson7720
    @boocrimson7720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    I think Stolas has genuine feelings for Blitzo that he can't really sort out and leans into the very "sexual" side of those feelings, but I think he comes off as accidentally patronizing, cause he dotes on him the same way he does with Octavia and in similar ways. I think he does HAVE romantic feelings for Blitzo, but I think Blitzo isn't reciprocating BECAUSE he sees it as transactional and not equal and more sexual than romantic, and I think that's cause Stolas is kinda classist due to his upbringing and also just genuinely doesn't know how to properly express that side of his feelings. He tends to go for the bluntest most bold course of action without giving a damn till it blows up in his face. I think that's going to be when things get more genuine. I think Stolas is going to almost get hurt, or Stella is going to try to hire IMP against him or something that would be a direct betrayal to prove to Stolas Blitzo doesn't care about him back. Cause atm, Stolas almost treats him like a trophy husband, I think it's cause he does have those existing biases, but he also does just genuinely find him cute, and sexy, and cares for him, and he wants to love bomb him and brag him up to others, I don't think he realizes he's honestly making it worse. I agree I think it'll build to Blitzo resenting him. I think if the ship lives and rebuilds on a healthier more equal platform, it's going to be because Blitz makes a big enough sacrifice of his business (The thing that's so important to him) for Stolas's sake that Stolas will have more respect for and trust in him and it'd be Blitz admitting he actually cares about him enough to give something important up. Right now it feels like they keep eachother at arms length, like Stolas is still TRYING desperately to win him over in the same oblivious out of touch way he did with Octavia. He asks him out as essentially "not dates" to things just so he can spend time with him cause he can tell at the very least Blitzo doesn't seem to return his more romantic feelings. So he keeps himself a little guarded there too, trying to hold that "power dynamic" over his head a little cause he doesn't want to lose him (which is very toxic) and Blitz doesn't wanna admit he cares about Stolas even a little bit because to him Stolas has never properly expressed he cares back. He makes Blitzo feel powerless (whether it's when it's on purpose or on accident) which Blitzo hates, and he doesn't want to be seen as having a weakness, or a softer side, and especially not if he's not on equal grounds with someone. He's a very dominant personality but with little status, and he's a petty egomaniac (in a lovable way) and Stolas directly contradicts that in him. So it's be like swallowing poison willfully to admit he isn't just hanging out with him because he has to for his business, because so many people have pointed out to him how it makes him seem "soft" in a way. Like Millie calling him his boyfriend teasingly. That upsets him and so he won't admit he has any feelings at all, even a desire to be like friends with the guy, cause I think he genuinely likes him, but doesn't feel for him romantically. Since neither can admit it, I'm anticipating a fight that just totally separates them. Stolas realizing he has to be actually more deep and thought out and genuine in the way he feels and try to put that like "on a pedastle" mindset out and respect Blitz more as an equal for him to kinda see how he feels. I think either him stepping up to the plate there, will be the catalyst to Blitz putting something important of himself aside to show he cares too and is willing to try to make it work, or the other way around. Despite everything Blitz caring about him even if he probably wants to punch our oblivious bird-dad in the beak every time he talks down to him, he'll see not only what the business really means to Blitzo but also that, he still somehow cared for Stolas and valued him over that. And he won't feel like he's being used anymore and will start to be more genuine toward and definitely more respectful of Blitzo cause he wouldn't feel like he needs to be as guarded about his romantic feelings to not get hurt.
    TLDR, They have such a toxic relationship right now cause their negative habits in communication are both fueling each other to actually get worse and the power dynamic with their personalities makes the relationship really complicated between them. Cause it hurts Blitzo's self worth to be compared to Stolas, but I think he'd like it being seen as "Bitch I'm as good as a royal cause the prince chose me over his wife" if it weren't in regards to everyone, including Stolas making him feel inferior in that dynamic cause he's the "cute lowly IMP thay got lucky enough to score with a prince" to everyone else and it pisses him off, and poor Stolas is emotionally out of touch and really oblivious, despite having I think some genuine romantic feelings burried beneath the lust, I think he's trying to find ways to get Blitzo to feel the same cause he doesn't understand his being patronizing with his love bombing (since he's like that with everyone) is exactly what keeps driving him awayit's going to blow up before it gets better but I think if they can fight that out and understand eachother more and work through it somehow that they can honestly be a really cute really healthy ship too. Cause to me, even beyond the sex side, it is no secret to me our precious bird dad is crushing hard on Blitz and just literally DOES NOT know how to behave properly in a relationship, honestly with anyone in his life, but especially with Blitzo and is just... trying his best XD

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      This! I want to say that I'm not about to excuse Stolas's behavior, but I do agree heavily with you. It does seem that he has some romantic feelings as well as sexual- when you look at how he acts around Blitzo vs how he acts when he isn't around him, there's a huge difference. He always seems very elated and excited around Blitzo, and he obviously wants to spend more time with him. On the other hand, I don't think Blitzo has romantic feelings for Stolas, but he at least doesn't mind being around him when he isn't spouting the condescending shit. We know this because of the opening scene of episode five, where Blitzo says he doesn't mind having sex with Stolas. From this we can assume that he is fine with the sex, and may even like Stolas enough to see the deal as a sort of transactional friends with benefits type of thing. But Stolas's constant baby talk is seriously putting him off. Something in this relationship HAS to give, and I'm interested in seeing how it ends.

    • @hankschrader2346
      @hankschrader2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He had to go Albert Einstein mode for his ship wow

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah I think that it's great that they are f*cked up but they have potential because of traits that may seem bad at first.
      Blitz is tough sturdy and cool under pressure, so the pressure of being with a prince is nothing. Because he is less attached he can clap back to Stollas's bullshit.
      Stollas is tirelessly affectionate so no matter how prickly, evil and dickish Blitz is to him, he can still feel and show his feelings.
      At first these things seem so awful, but really end up showing how well they get together.

    • @izzyash775
      @izzyash775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Even though you wrote a whole essay about this I read the whole thing and agree completely

    • @nasty_playzyt4888
      @nasty_playzyt4888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My guy
      How is your TLDR as long as your fucking comment
      Like what

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Part of what makes me okay with a lot of the sketchier parts is just that: these aren't good people and info not yet care _much_ when bad things happen to them.
    That parts part of why Octavia, Moxie, Mille, and Loona are so important.

  • @Dragynn999
    @Dragynn999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I really adore the Idea of a powerful guy who lets his guard down and gives himself up to someone else, being able to trust someone enough to put yourself into a situation that leaves you powerless and vulnerable because you just can be like this with them without having to fear anything bad.
    But then there is the way Stolas does Exactly that just live out his kinks with Blitzo. I do not really think that He is trying to talk down on Blitzie but rather that this is very messed up way of affection. I think that he believes, that his baby talk and the oh so cute nicknames make Blitzo feel adored and loved. I would not put it past Stolas to have different behavioural patterns depending on whoever is talking to him at the moment. He might even honestly believe, that imps prefer to be talked down to, as they are but the lower end of the food chain in hell.
    It's almost like he is talking to a pet. Telling it how cute and adorable it is all the time, not taking it seriously at all while honestly believing he is showing affection in this most fucked up way. I mean it is hell after all. Some kind of degeneration should be expected, even from the higher ups.
    Depending on the viewpoint, Stolas X Blitzo is depraved, kinky, wrong or like a car crash... one just can't help to keep looking at it.

  • @Ray_Vun
    @Ray_Vun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    stolas brings a whole new meaning to the term power bottom

  • @LoGamer-iz3ch
    @LoGamer-iz3ch ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stolas acts flirty and kinky and demeaning because Blitz acted like he liked it

  • @nicoyeetzawa5342
    @nicoyeetzawa5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Literally coming back to this after watching episode 7 because I could only think of your theories and how you nailed essentially everything from their perceptions of each other and blitzø’s past

  • @frickinfrick8488
    @frickinfrick8488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Do I expect them to have a nice loving relationship by the end of the show? Fuck no. I just enjoy watching the train wreck and the weird connections they have together. They’re both terrible people that are using each other so I can’t feel bad for either of them, they kinda deserve each other in that way. They’re just so fun to watch I can’t help but love every moment they have on screen

  • @Inspect0r_constable
    @Inspect0r_constable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Stolas probably wants the relationship that his wife never gave him

  • @sebastyann123
    @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    What I don't get is why everybody is siding or rather acting as if only stollas is in the wrong. Blitzo decided to sleep with stollas to steal the book, and as we all know he's a really powerful being so stealing that book was never going to work since stollas could have it back with a snap of his fingers. Stollas offered an option where both benefits from it and blitzo went with it. Bc, why would stollas give his grimoire to an IMP he just slept with once? Blitzo also needs a lot of slaps of reality too, you can compare their relationship with moxxie and blitzo's, their relationship is exactly the same except the sex ual part and for me it's even worse bc stollas "diminish him" by trying to show "affection or endearment" to blitzo in f up way meanwhile blitzo just humiliate moxxie all the time. He also treats Luna as if she owes him something all the time for adopting her, the only character he kinda treats somehow well is millie. Also, they're demons and are in hell you can't expect rainbows flowers, especially from blitzo and stollas since the very beginning.
    I think Blitzo will hit and all time low where everything will come to crush him and one of the catalysts will be his relationship with stollas and the I.M.P members

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      yeah, essentially, while stoals may be using blitzo and have uncomfortable power in the relationship, its not like Blitzo went into this with any real morals either, Blitzo's using Stolas more than Stolas us using Blitzo.

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sarafontanini7051 I think Stolas is using him more, but they are definitely using each other, especially when Blitz tried to steal the book by seduction.

    • @DeathKitta
      @DeathKitta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Blitso isn't forced in this situation. We can't blame Stollas for not giving Blitso grimmuar just because out of nowhere. It's a trade. Don't like the conditions, don't take the deal. Sure Blitso needed that grimmuar for his job and he is an imp without any hopr for bright future. But this is hell. And why would Stollas have to contribute to imps just because they are imps.

    • @sebastyann123
      @sebastyann123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@evieh6900 how is having sex one day a month is using him "more" than Giving away a (his) grimoire which is a really powerfull weapon to a random imp bc said imp wants to make Killing humans a job bc he needs to overcompensate due to his trauma of being lonely by creating a fake family with his coworkers and also his failures on his previuos Jobs? (Sorry for the bad grammar)

    • @evieh6900
      @evieh6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sebastyann123 probably because Stolas seems to treat Blitzo as a sexual toy and ignores his boundaries. If he respected Blitz I'd say that Blitz was using Stolas more, but because Stolas has all the power in the relationship *and* doesn't respect Blitzos wishes, I'd say Stolas uses him more.

  • @DyedinBlack
    @DyedinBlack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    There has been major in-your-face foreshadowing that Stolas is going to die as early as episode 2. And as much as it's going to hurt, I'm very curious to see how Blitz will react when that time comes.

    • @veermudambi5795
      @veermudambi5795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      And he on some level knows it. Preparing his daughter for life without him - now he could mean old age but I get the feeling that’s not such an issue for demonic royalty. I think he expects to be killed somehow - wouldn’t be surprised if that’s common in their circles.

    • @redpanda6497
      @redpanda6497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I just they won't pull this storyline out in the finale of the first season or in the second season. They need to give him more screentime and development before anything happens to him.

    • @sashimi8187
      @sashimi8187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ive been blocking his possible death from mind cuz i dont want my favorite character to die

    • @almamater489
      @almamater489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where has it been foreshadowed that he's gonna die? Please tell me, maybe I'm just dumb

    • @boch2411
      @boch2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@almamater489 dont worry about it. But striker is gonna shoot him

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    While I agree with a lot of what you've said, I'm on the fence as to whether Vivzie would go to such lengths to get us to like these two if she was planning to just tear down their relationship 🤔

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Aint nothing like a slow burn. With drama. She's learned much of the fandom. If it wors it will be the slowest of slow burns.

  • @sashazar851
    @sashazar851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The last episode was true happiness for Stoliz shippers. I fucking loved it.

  • @kraziiXIII
    @kraziiXIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Personally, since I'm into d/s stuff, I can totally see Stolas being "dismissive" as a way to get Blitz riled up and get punished by his dom. Stolas is definitely a bratty sub. Part of the dynamic here is that Stolas wants to be pushed around and if "disobeying/disrepecting/annoying/backtalking" Blitz is the agreed means to that end like boyos should have at it. It could be an already negotiated part of their agreement or it could be the underlying classism issues between the two. Idk!
    Personally I love the idea of two dads with teenager daughters getting together because non-nuclear family dynamics! I can see this becoming a healthier ship as time passes and they actually start communicating. In the first ep and the Pilot they look more like fuckbuddies to me (Blitz steals from Stolas, like say what you may about Stolas, but Blitz was obviously manipulating him to get the book) than anything else and I think the narrative is going to move along so that they do end up together in some capacity. Stolas has shown a capacity to change with Octavia and Blitz obviously craves domesticity with his interactions with M&M and Loona, so I think it'll be endgame for this season at least. Idk if it'll last though!
    It's definitely a lynchpin for a lot of the show's current conflict both politcal and emotional and I am curious to see where it goes because we have the wholesome murder couple M&M already and breaking up that dream team seems cruel so Blitzy and Loona are our only single characters in the main cast who can have big relationship drama. (But maybe Millie and Moxie are polyamorous? Who knows!).

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are not the only one to consider that, I heard about the idea of Stolas being a brat on TVTropes (and brought it up in another comment here).

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont we could credit him with that much foresight yet. I think he is very self absorbed in how happy Blitzmakes him. He is not experienced enough to think outside himself. The problem with a brat that has all the power, is that hes not a brat, hes just selfish demanding and bossy man who likes to get fucked. I think before they can have a true relationship, they have a lot of irl issues to work out.

    • @LeafyGreens726
      @LeafyGreens726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that makes so much sense! I feel like especially what you said at the beginning. I think stolas is just so tired of basically being immune to criticism from growing up in a sheltered life that he wants blitz to degrade him.

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeafyGreens726 the only problem with this is Stollas is such a newbie he doesn't just admit it and probably doesn't realize it's a thing. So they are pretty fucked until Blitz figures it out.
      Until they both consent, hes being a demanding rude jerk.

    • @kraziiXIII
      @kraziiXIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elizabethlee2136 I respect your opinion but we don't know what blitzo or stolas have agreed to or haven't agreed to when it comes to their relationship. We can only speculate at this point.
      We've only seen bits and pieces of their relationship and while Stolas may be a "brat with all the power" part of d/s stuff is a power exchange where the sub willingly gives up their power to their dom. That can be from bodily autonomy to financial autonomy. D/s dynamics are pretty far ranging.
      They have already began partaking in bdsm (blitzo had stolas bound and gagged) so we can only hope they are following the cardinal rules of bdsm: safe, sane, and consensual. Key word being consensual.
      I personally would rather not have another "bdsm=abuse/toxic relationship" narrative since they are overwhelmingly what creators put out despite the BDSM community being against that negative portrayal of their subculture. And I admit maybe a show about hell isn't the best place to be looking for positive and healthy representation of BDSM but honestly I have seen so few instances of good faith representation for the community that I can take what I can get.

  • @SushiTrap313
    @SushiTrap313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Watching this after Ep 6, I SHIP IT HARDER

  • @duck_bird
    @duck_bird ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm pretty sure we all know why he specifically went to LooLooLand AND brought Blitzo along with him is because that's where they first meant. So Stolas didn't really need a bodyguard he probably just wanted to relive some memories he remembers

  • @BluerrorSans
    @BluerrorSans ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Funny how back then we thought stolas was essentially just a lust demon...
    haha...
    if only we knew...
    if only we knew...

  • @airachica
    @airachica ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I disagree that Stolas doesn't see Blitz as an equal.
    First of all, Stolas has no fucking idea how to show affection to anyone else but his daughter. It's fair to assume Stolas has never had any friends and has only been intimate, sexually and emotionally, with two people: Stella and Blitz. Now, with the way Stella has treated Stolas, he would naturally do the opposite to Blitz. So when Stella has verbally abused Stolas their entire marriage, he has subconsciously decided to compliment Blitz any time he gets, along with the affectionate nicknames. He's not trying to talk down to Blitz, his intentions couldn't be further from that. He just doesn't know any better.
    Second of all, Stolas has also been brought up being told imps are beneath, not just him, but EVERYONE in hell. He has known them as servants, as circus clowns, quite literally scraping the bare bottom of society. So while he doesn't actively think too much about the hierarchy or his status in comparison to Blitz', he is obviously still going to have that mindset in the back of his head because he's been told his entire life that pretty much everyone is beneath him. Look at how his father legit HITS him when he is polite to Blitz and bows back to him when they meet as children. That type of negative association will ALWAYS affect someone's behavior until dealt with properly.
    I don't think Stolas for one moment, if you asked him to think about it, would say Blitz is worth less than he is. I don't think he is even ACTIVELY aware that he is taking advantage of Blitz; he's in love with him and desperate to get any sort of affection from him by whatever means necessary. He's aware that society thinks what they're doing is wrong, but that doesn't mean HE thinks what they're doing is wrong. He's not mean or manipulative, he's about as oblivious and out of touch with reality as you can get. Which is extremely common for people who have grown up the way he has.
    And just as a side note: Any remotely decent parent WILL choose their child over a romantic interest. That is neither toxic, evil or whatever you want to call it. That's just the way having children should work and DOES work for most decent people.

  • @notakiller7881
    @notakiller7881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man's just predicted episode 6 and 7 😃

  • @Silverwitch07
    @Silverwitch07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This video offers some amazing insights and honestly I feel that - no matter how you're feeling about this relationship - it's hard to argue that it isn't interesting as hell because of just how complicated it is. For me personally, episode 5 didn't just make me lean harder into the possibility of Blitz and Stolas being in a legit relationship with each other, but it also made me realize [even more than the previous episode with Verosika] that.....Blitz has options. He still needs Stolas's grimoire in order to be able to go to Earth and carry out his business there, yes, BUT he also was presented the option that if he really just /didn't/ want to sell himself sexually for the book, he could shift his business practices from revenge killing on Earth to revenge killing in Hell. Striker did things for me in that episode - perhaps best said by Blitz himself in the line "Ooh that's kinda hot". The idea of a Striker/Blitz team up IS kinda hot. Not because of physical sexiness, but because they had more natural chemistry together over the course of a single episode than what Blitz and Stolas have had over the course of 4 or 5.....and what's more, the episode itself played right into it. If this had been any other show, Striker would've spent the entire time trying to seduce Millie in order to really drive home how superior he was to Moxxie, since that was the storyline they were going with for those two characters. But what does Striker actually spend the episode doing? Seducing /Blitz/ instead with the idea of them joining forces together to become a team. And--even though you can make the arguement that it was all just bullshitting in order to have a better shot at taking out Stolas--the points that Striker makes to Blitz are actually pretty legitimate and provide an AMAZING natural contrast to the interactions between Stolas and Blitz. One of the first things Striker says to Blitz is how impressive it is that he managed to make his own business--acknowledging the power and class discrepency between imps and higher up demons--and even addresses Blitz as "Sir". Now think back to the way Stolas addresses Blitz, using his condescending baby talk and constantly calling him "Blitzy" even though Blitz--in the episode itself--is literally screaming at Stolas to just say his name correctly. It's absolutely brilliant contrast and something that, at least for me, really heightened the feels towards Stolas/Blitz because now suddenly there was a legitimate threat to their relationship: Striker. And with how that episode ended, I can't help but think that maybe the reason Striker was able to get away with losing his angel rifle without much fuss is because either he--or just the show itself--recognizes that you might not need angelic weaponry to take Stolas out. You might just need Blitz choosing a seemingly healthier alternative to their current relationship. :)

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I mean it is the perfect love triangle. Its not a watered down excuse for polyamory or male harem. A good love triangle is where each of the choices is a dangerous risk that has stakes and consequences. Both Stollas and Striker are manifestations of a personal choice that Blitz will have to make that will have dangerous consequences
      Its not an Edward or Jacob situation. Where the choice is based on attributes and relatively no stakes.
      Even if Striker and Blitz never have another conversation, he's going to be between them and whatever guy he chooses there is going to be a shitstorm.
      I am so thinking of taking an absurd humor route and write a decent stupid parody of a love triangle
      And you are deluding yourself if its not physical sexiness.
      Both of them have a very specific chemistry with Blitz and both are super appealing
      Its the choice between the dangerous bad boy and the pure of heart who guiding the hero(ine) to the light. Only the the pure of heart hero is a dangerous evil cowboy who sings rock covers and the dangerous bad boy like Animatronic apples XD.
      M&M might just need to shoot a bitch... because I don't know how Bltiz got himself in this mess.

  • @maliapaulageduspan8020
    @maliapaulageduspan8020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Stolas the all power bottom” was the best tagline in this entire video

  • @47ratsinahoodie
    @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great vid! It took me a while to get behind Stolitz, too, and I actually got behind Striker and Blitzo first. Even though they're my top two favorite characters, I think I just liked them apart or their interactions with others as opposed to their interactions with each other. This convinced me to get completely behind it to see how it crashes and burns! I just hope no one gets seriously hurt in the process...

  • @tayloradams3993
    @tayloradams3993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    My prediction is that Blitz ends up lashing out at Stolas. He gets one of them angel weapons that Striker had and he wields it against Stolas, yelling about all of the belittling and the disrespect. I'm not entirely sure how it's go, but I know it'll be this stunningly animated climatic scream off if it's how they go.

    • @autisticsonicfan
      @autisticsonicfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would be really interesting 🤔

  • @yazanhussam8182
    @yazanhussam8182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love it if you search throughout the comments you will find people saying that this didn't age well after the 6th episode, and people saying this aged well after the 7th.

  • @OtakuSeikatsuTamashi
    @OtakuSeikatsuTamashi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stolitzo - You ship it even as it crashes and burns.
    (Which is shipping culture in general, but you get the point.)

  • @stormydragon2668
    @stormydragon2668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Episode 6 adds some new wrinkles to this: Blitz may actually want to be subordinate to Stolas, but wants to be treasured in that subordinate status.

    • @j.a.r.5974
      @j.a.r.5974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      what I got from that episode is that Blitzo sees Stolas as unnatainable and 'godlike', possibly due to his status and power, and knows/thinks that he's only a commodity and toy in Stolas' eyes. In fact Stolas outright calls him that in the episode before they fuck as a thank you for not letting us die sort of thing, he also says he only did it because if the imps get caught he will get in trouble too since he allowed them to come up which shows his true motivations are self preservation rather than Blitzo himself. The entire nightmare sequence is his past telling him that he's worthless and will always be alone only to cut to Stolas basically saying he owns him and will do whatever he want with Blitzo. He doesn't hate him completely but he clearly hates the power Stolas has over him. Could be tied to all his past relationships being controlling as well.

  • @brennoutof10
    @brennoutof10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm here from the future. It fucking imploded boys!!!!!

    • @SarcasticChorus
      @SarcasticChorus  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn I hope someone picks up that phone. Because I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!!!!!

    • @brennoutof10
      @brennoutof10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SarcasticChorus Called it like it was it's birthday!!!!

  • @sakuraneko18
    @sakuraneko18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me watching this after the emotional rollercoaster that was episode that came out a few hours ago - *Dies of laughter and constant internal screaming*

  • @cries4167
    @cries4167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    new episodes out. im crying. we're all crying.

  • @corey7219
    @corey7219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I came back from the sixth episode. Was released august 21, 2021 and it was GLORIOUS!

  • @johncampbell8405
    @johncampbell8405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I don't ship them, I Titanic them!

    • @yazanhussam8182
      @yazanhussam8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's a term when need to be using more.

    • @Dumpstergoblins
      @Dumpstergoblins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@yazanhussam8182 not really, since the titanic sank-

    • @yazanhussam8182
      @yazanhussam8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Dumpstergoblins Exactly.

    • @victorlannister5606
      @victorlannister5606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      As in you’ll go down with it? Or you wanna watch it crash into and iceberg and burn?

    • @yazanhussam8182
      @yazanhussam8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@victorlannister5606 Yes.

  • @depressedluups1973
    @depressedluups1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly it's amazing to watch videos like this after episode 6

  • @cotton_candy0067
    @cotton_candy0067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man I can't wait to see the update after today's episode

  • @Lightmagician60
    @Lightmagician60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i think we are all waiting for the crash. either to see the crash it self, see the wreak thats left, and/or how it's rebuilt

  • @rosecore9557
    @rosecore9557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I mean this show takes place in hell I expect most ships just to be bad honestly.

  • @crow1890
    @crow1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I agree that it's like a bomb waiting to happen what I really want to see is blitzø getting angry at stolace, I want to see stolace reevaluate his actions, saying he never ment to make him feel this way, I want stolace to realize how awful he has been. How condasending. I want stolace to realize he has actually fallen in love with blitzø. It's more than a good fuck. Because blitzø is more than just an imp who happends to be a good lay, he is a person with thoughts and feelings too. I want to see a major shift in the relationship, where stolace dosent just want sex, he wants to know more about blitzø's past, maybe date nights, to get to know him and everything about him, from his fears and regrets to his joys and hobbies. I want to see blitzø slowly fall in love with stolace for every right reason after they talk it out/have their argument and finnaly start having a healthier relasonship

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think that is even the issue. I mean weirdly the term P*blind is a good term. Its just that Stollas probably has complicated textured tortured thoughts that have nothing to do with the collapse of his family, but he has to do that too. It might be that the power of hell or the changing world or the events of Hazbin with Exterminators... provides no relief.
      He seems like the bookish nerd in comparision to the other Larger then life down right abusive royals and ringleaders and overlords in hell.
      If you were just a guy who like astronomy and growing venus flytraps. And every day you were dealing with the Apocalypse. or Existential dread. Or Cosmic Horror that being on the edge of the Moral universe and having more power then mortals and ordinary beings, but not enough to control the forces of hell.
      He's got a lot on his plate, and he found something that has drowned out a lot of his internal stuff
      its not that he sees Blitzo as a sexual object alone. and that is how it will always be. Its that he just is blind by something new and exciting, because he's using it as a crutch to deal with a bunch of shit.
      I don't think he could have very deep feelings for Blitzo. His feelings are good. Positive wonderful feelings. Like I heard it described, that Blitzo hides his emotiona; insecurity, commitment issues with coarse sarcasm, because he can't handle intimacy. Stollas is dealing with his emotional insecurity commitment issues with toxic positivity. The kind he exhibited in Episode 2. Where literally he is forcing everyone to go to Loolooland. Which is the perfect symbol of how fucked up he is. And it was never a lack of love of anyone. Its just being fucked up and abusing those you love by refusing to communicate.
      If it is true love he will snap out of it.

    • @crow1890
      @crow1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elizabethlee2136 see the thing with love is it's a slow burn. It's made. Not just sudden. I want to see the build up to the realization of it's actual love, I want to see them get healthier. Whatever they have now simply isn't. Blitzø clearly cares about stolace to some degree, he isn't stupid he would have taken strikers offer. He could have just taken the book. He could have paired up with striker and gone farther than imps have gone. Created a revolution in hell, with the book and striker they could have Taken status by force. Something is going to change for them, mark my words. Good or bad something with shift them to push them closer or farther apart. I'm a firm believer they will have drama unfold, and they will be pushed apart and reconnect in an actual relasonship. They say distance makes the heart grow fonder and familiarity breeds contempt. I want to see things burn then rebuild. They have the foundation to be an interesting arc so to say if they continue on the path of destruction, I think it will take time and they will need it to unravel the things they feel and to talk about them as an item. I just want to see it all. Because I'm here for the drama the trauma and all around good plot.

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crow1890 yeah. I just... this is going to be the slowest of slow burns. I doubt Stollas will be able to call Blitzo by the right name by the end of this season. Let alone the fluffy saccharine comics where they get married and no one tries to choke Blitzo to death.
      But Vivziepop has said specifically there will be four episodes that change everything. So it might be a huge power dynamic shift. And since the most compelling relationships are Miile and Moxie's wholesome relationship, the found family dynamic of IMP.... and the Kinky Bullshit with Blitz and Stollas, I hope its Stollas because I will jump off a cliff if M&M get a divorce.
      We need six nooooow.so I can write a love triangle.

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crow1890 my favorite idea. Stella offers Blitz the grimmoire to Kill her husband. If it's not in episode 8 I'm writing it with my cold dead hands

    • @crow1890
      @crow1890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@elizabethlee2136 *yes* omg honestly though if she dose, as an adamant shipper of those two I'd love for blitzø to struggle with the decision, to maybe use that as another way to help him realize his feelings. Because what if he agrees? And he is there, gun pointing at stolace, who is oblivious And his hand is shaking , the barrel of the gun unsteady as he is fighting himself to take the shot that he ultimately dosent take. And he can't fuigure out why.

  • @Tobycooper
    @Tobycooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ep 6 be like: I'm gonna confirm the ship and I'm gonna confirm blitz can be dominant

  • @aliyamcreynolds7875
    @aliyamcreynolds7875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    oh he's gonna love the ending of the latest episode

  • @maykponte
    @maykponte ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact the even Striker also got the hint that Blitz and Stolas were an item😅😂😂😂

  • @DecentOfAngles
    @DecentOfAngles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wait! Wait! Wait! Wait! Does Verosika have a crossed-out heart tattoo with Blizto's name in it on her upper arm? How did I not notice that before?!

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It doesn't show that often, and the part where Blitzø confronts her is pretty much the best place to see it, so unless you replayed that specific scene a few times, you wouldn't notice it. Don't feel bad, it took this video for me to notice Moxxie snickering at Blitzø behind him in Harvest Moon Festival.

    • @DecentOfAngles
      @DecentOfAngles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Means of life Hence why the tattoo has been crossed out. Like when people in real life get tattoos of their partner's names and have them covered up when they break up.

  • @TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth
    @TheSwanqueenAndTheEldricth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I honestly don’t ship it but I just hope that it gets a good development and that Stolaz actually learns to show proper love and respect to Blitz

    • @voltbot1887
      @voltbot1887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lets hope ep 6 shows that

    • @elliyanawilliams8131
      @elliyanawilliams8131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@voltbot1887 Oh boy….you not gonna like this 💀💀💀

    • @voltbot1887
      @voltbot1887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elliyanawilliams8131 eh there’s always a next time.🤷

    • @quacksterlol8370
      @quacksterlol8370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sooo has everyone watch ep 7?..

  • @lolwatkins4652
    @lolwatkins4652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pov you are watching this after episode 6

  • @2l84me8
    @2l84me8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stolitz is a fun and terrible contrast to the wholesome vibes that Millie and Moxie share.

  • @malepatternbaldness.
    @malepatternbaldness. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Stolas is a power bottom.
    Thank you for coming.

  • @louvsona
    @louvsona 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Episode 6 puts so much new light on their relationship! I'd love to see you cover their relationship again given that info

  • @taptap_arts
    @taptap_arts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    POv: you're watching this after episode 6

  • @GamzeenMakara
    @GamzeenMakara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Stolas wants so much affection and attention because it seems that he’s been repressed for like MOST of his life. Blitzo is definitely someone who, because he grew up in hell, hasn’t been nice to him enough to understand what love or romance is. Like, he def can vibe with radical amounts of sex but I feel like he might just be aromantic with his inability to let himself be vulnerable. Hopefully over time the two will be kinda pushed him to accept that someone gives a shit about him.

  • @JuliaS-01
    @JuliaS-01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How does the recent episode have y’all feeling now 🤨

    • @ay0anab3ll
      @ay0anab3ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmao

    • @honeytoast9204
      @honeytoast9204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m feeling things lots of things

  • @undeadblizzard
    @undeadblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Reminds me of Crayon Shin Chan. Penny's Dad gets healthy. Penny's mom misses the hardcore luvin.

    • @yazanhussam8182
      @yazanhussam8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that was a kid's show?
      Or are they just subtle about it?

    • @undeadblizzard
      @undeadblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yazanhussam8182 The Funimation Dub of Crayon Shin-Chan is pure comedy gold, assuming you have a Dark, Sadistic Sense of Humor like me.

    • @yazanhussam8182
      @yazanhussam8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@undeadblizzard guilty 😉

    • @yazanhussam8182
      @yazanhussam8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@undeadblizzard i might give it a watch, thanks for the recommendation.

    • @undeadblizzard
      @undeadblizzard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yazanhussam8182 You are welcome !

  • @Shurmash
    @Shurmash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't wait for the episode when they finally come to understand that they love each other.

  • @rotten.coffee
    @rotten.coffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This hits after seeing episode 6.

  • @xio3386
    @xio3386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you: stolas is powerful
    Me after watching episode 6: I know that

  • @Heather-pl3gs
    @Heather-pl3gs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man. Coming in late to the fandom game and watching these older videos/reading the comments from that timeframe and then comparing them to the videos and mindset of present day with everything the newest episodes bring to light is so interesting and fun. Really love these videos! Thanks for making them!!

  • @katyblue9805
    @katyblue9805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After episode 6 this is very interesting

  • @azimlicocuk9899
    @azimlicocuk9899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    in that one scene stolas does know that stella is hiring an assassin he doesnt look like he doesnt care he acts like he isnt listening because he thinks nothing can hurt him

  • @auragoofs1227
    @auragoofs1227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe you called the plot in this episode 😂😂🤣

  • @kawaiisenshi2401
    @kawaiisenshi2401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whats bad is the more i rewatch this scene the more i understand what the blanks actually mean XD

  • @laurasofiaruizgallego9681
    @laurasofiaruizgallego9681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Who else here after episode 6?

  • @TheBigE9999
    @TheBigE9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thinking about this ship made me think about what would be THE most toxic, mutually abusive, and entertaining to watch. Get this: season 3-4 catra and azula. Imagine these two terrible people, in very different yet similiar positions of power, trying to outmanuever, and abuse eachother, all the while tryning to love eachother, but both having very diff ideas on what constitutes properly giving and accepting love

    • @inkchip7351
      @inkchip7351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this fanfiction prompt

  • @jociebxby
    @jociebxby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait until he sees EP 6 that just came out 💀😂

  • @leonidas4674
    @leonidas4674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love how you're saying in one moment in this video that "stolas doesn't see himsefl and blitz as an equal" and then just a few months later make a video where the main topic is that it's adoreble how stolas looks at them as equal and that's the issue. i just really love how fast it changed.

  • @Jynxedlove
    @Jynxedlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think it is a healthy presentation of an abusive relationship. It's not glorifying, it's making the issues quite blaringly obvious, but we're also all on board with why it's going on, we understand this is hell. There are bad people in hell, and even bad people have redeeming traits. It takes away the need to root for the "good guy". None of them are the good guy, so we can enjoy the characters, enjoy their snark and antics, without needing to want to rescue them. The cards are out on the table, all the characters at least have an idea of what they are getting into, even if they're both delusional about it. And that also puts them on a kind of even playing-field for the audience's sympathies, at least.

  • @Zurcwind
    @Zurcwind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ohhh after episode 6, their relationship mechanics, Blitzo is in charge!
    Except when he needs saving XD

  • @justaghostinthesea
    @justaghostinthesea ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:35 What's funny about that is that Blitz is incredibly tall by Imp standards

  • @beatricethebugzz
    @beatricethebugzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait til you watch ep 6
    *the ship really becomes a ship*

  • @aniram.6079
    @aniram.6079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This aged well bc they’re addressing their relationship currently lolol

  • @Transformers2Fan1
    @Transformers2Fan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pft, and with the end of episode 6 that just dropped, we get another look, too!

  • @animehearthd5469
    @animehearthd5469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    This is a really good video, although I disagree with a couple of your final points. I'll get to that, but first I do wanna mention two additional things that I feel you missed.
    1 Blitz doesn't just have relationship issues or self esteem issues, he has commitment issues, as well. Yes he can't take affection and doesn't know how to process it when he gets it, AND at the same time he struggles with opening up his feelings and being genuine. He prioritizes actions over spoken words, that is if he's feeling affection he will be clingy and hug and give gifts and so, and if he's feeling frustrated he will lash out. He doesn't really express his feelings in words much at all. So why is his relationship with Stolas important in this? Because IF he wants things to work with him, he HAS to be blunt, necessarily. But here's the kicker, and my second point, which is;
    2 Blitz himself DOESN'T yet know how he feels towards Stolas. In ep 5 he says "when this happens, it's not really something I fuss about" referring to their rendezvous, and connecting back to my first point, that's almost like an oblivious confession of enjoyment coming from him, but the key part is oblivious, because Blitz doesn't yet trust Stolas, for good reason. Let's take in consideration his nickname, "Blitzy", we know what Blitz wants is to feel respected (vs what he needs is feeling loved but we know that), and in a show that puts such importance in BLITZO vs BLITZ, Stolas' nickname falls in neither, and this only goes to heighten the uncertainty Blitz feels towards him. I really do feel like he might be holding back because of this, because he's afraid of getting hurt and he doesn't yet know where Stolas falls in either category, as in, "does he respect me or not?", he acts condescending, but is it just his way to be affectionate? after all, it's the same way blitz expresses affection towards Loona and Moxxie. He's a prince, so does he take Blitz seriously, or is he just a random imp he wants to plow? and... IS it just sex, or is there more? And these questions that we have, are questions Blitz has as well and reasons why he's pushing back on his advances heavily. Blitz wants to feel in control, and these complicated feelings make him feel anything but, because of these uncertainties, so he denies it altogether, but you are right that that's also why it's such an effective way for his employees to get under his skin easily, and that's also why I think it'll be brought up more and more, by people who aren't his employees as well, by his enemies possibly, because it's such an effective way to manipulate him and shut him down, that eventually he will HAVE to think about it and truly confront it. He has pushed it away so hard that I think even HE isn't aware at the moment of the level of care he may or may not feel towards Stolas, but personally I do think he already considers him family, as he is a character that loves... almost too easily, and a lot. He's very affectionate, hell he invited Striker to work for him after just one day of working with him and a couple compliments.
    I think the only thing needed to snap this current unstable ground their relationship is on, one way or the other, is to confront this RESPECT thing. I think Blitz will definitely lash out because of that, but I also don't believe Stolas doesn't respect him, so I think he will want to PROVE IT, eventually.
    I also think the "choosing between Blitz and Octavia" point is a little moot, because if Octavia were on the line at any moment I have no doubt Blitz would agree she takes priority, even despite any feelings he may or may not feel.
    Additionally, I also disagree that Stolas has an imp fetish because they're inferior or whatever. It's pretty safe to assume he had never slept with an imp before, at least not to Stella's knowledge, but even if he had it still didn't become the thing that it did with Blitz, or it would've been known. He isn't even really shown hitting on other imps at all in the show, and he is seen near plenty of them, he only hits on Blitz. I don't think he finds him irresistibly adorable because he's an imp, I think he finds him so because he's Blitz.
    And Stolas, being the oblivious sheltered rich fuck that he is, probably hasn't even realized this whole class difference power imbalance that there is, he might romanticize it more than anything, as he calls him "his knight in shining armor", often fantasizing of Blitz basically coming to rescue him from his boring, stifling, suffocating prince life, showing that he himself doesn't perceive himself as being the one with the power... despite having it. And same as it was with Octavia, if he knew his actions hurt Blitz, he would stop, because at no point does it seem he's doing them with hurtful intention, he probably thinks of them as playful or maybe even roleplay or affectionate.
    Finally, here's the kicker as to why this is all so good, and it's because the nature of their relationship REQUIRES them both to grow as characters in order to make it work! If they desire to pursue this thing, they necessarily need to address all of this in a way or another, most likely through some conflict that will ensue and will confirm that 1 stolas does respect blitz a lot and that's why he loves him and 2 blitz does care about stolas a lot and that's why he was pushing back.
    The real problem isn't whether they both want this relationship or not, though, the REAL problem here is that the outside world won't, not without a fight. Starting from Stella, continuing to all the enemies Blitz has made in like 5 episodes, finishing with society itself, it would be a relationship that's much looked down upon, and might even cost Blitz the societal respect he so think he needs.
    A classic star crossed lovers trope, pretty much.
    And I think it may all tie in to how it seems to be heavily implied that Stolas could die. Now, sacrificing yourself to save your lover (or attempting to do so... I don't want Stolas to die ;_;) would be pretty hard proof that you respect them, wouldn't it? And it seems the odds are stacked against them BOTH right now.
    I mean, Stella wants to kill Stolas NOW, but wait until she realizes, also possibly thanks to Striker, that the real way to hurt him into compliance and save face as well would be to remove his lover from the equation for good, and with how many enemies Blitz has... you can start to see how his safety is at stake, already.
    But this last bit is just speculations, take it how you will! These are my thoughts, though.

    • @balanc-joy9187
      @balanc-joy9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is absolutely MAGNIFICENT!!

    • @animehearthd5469
      @animehearthd5469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@balanc-joy9187 Thank you!!

    • @herossoup6027
      @herossoup6027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@animehearthd5469 Wow the way you laid this out, really paints such a vivid picture of how this relationship could possible go. You made me wholly intrigued in a bond between two characters I didn’t even care much for before, so now I’m eager to see where the series takes with it

    • @animehearthd5469
      @animehearthd5469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@herossoup6027 That's a really sweet thing to say, thank you :) and I'm happy to hear I made you care about them, because I love them

    • @elizabethlee2136
      @elizabethlee2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People dont realize that a good slow burn romance is not about two perfect beings who act like idiots. It's two really screwed up people unable to come together until they both reach a climax.
      I think weirdly if anything for the first time in ages I might want a love triangle. I know it seems dumb at first. Not watered down polyamory, not a male harem prone. But a genuine gripping Blitzo literally has to make a choice. The truly good love triangle is the manifestation of an impossible dilemma full of inherent heartbreak that has significant character defining choices that must hurt.
      Even if Striker never shows up again, hes going to be a permanent wedge between them

  • @redrasegarden
    @redrasegarden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not sure I'd call them "abusive" mainly because of blitz. He seems to genuinely treat it like a business transaction

  • @chipwik
    @chipwik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Personally i think that Blitz will snap at Stolas and the aftermath is going to change how they see and treat each other. Now I’m not sure if this will cause them to be in bad terms for awhile which could be a great way to end season 1 (example: Blitz snaps at Stolas and after a heated argument Stolas takes the book away from Blitz) or they could do the opposite and have Stolas realize he has been treating Blitz like an inferior and after that realization we see him try to do better for him.
    Personally i think it’d be best to go from being in bad terms to trying to better their relationship

  • @shaadekun6247
    @shaadekun6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Stolas wouldn’t help Blitzø in his time of need? But he did, in the newest episode.

    • @j.a.r.5974
      @j.a.r.5974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      in self interest. he says it himself.

  • @mitzi3262
    @mitzi3262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not every show needs to be realistic or morally right, especially a show about hell and demons. I just want to see these two together

  • @nikispade1350
    @nikispade1350 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    LMAO Coming back after Apology Tour and you nailed it!

  • @FerraticaTheBard
    @FerraticaTheBard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's so wild to come back to this video after seeing season two and the latter half of season one. Just because all your points and arguments? Really solid! Or, at least, they were for the time you made them. And honestly, the fact that you were able to make this video speaks volumes for the skill of Helluva Boss's writing. I love that they introduced us to Stolas and Blitz's relationship like this, from the outside going in, because it made it completely impossible (or at least decently hard (as with fandom all denial is possible)) to ignore all the issues these two have. I don't think I've ever seen a story show how a couple doesn't work and why they have so many problems so clearly before slowly showing us why they're together in the first place and the good they could have together with some (or a fuck-ton of) work. Like... it's such skilled, fascinating storytelling, and it makes this subseries of your Helluva Boss videos really fun to come back to and rewatch!

  • @odk1959
    @odk1959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me : comes back after episode 6
    "It's working' 😊