I have been curious about these subs. I grew up with brick and mortars being able to listen before buying but that is pretty much long gone so using videos like yours is gonna go a long way in my final decision to subs to purchase. Thanks from VA.
Good tip would be. Carpet the cabinet before adding your last baffle and aslo wrapping that one before glueing. Just rabbit the back of it to compensate for the vinyl material. Itll save you around the port so you want have pieces come up later in time. Wither way it still looks nice . As a learning box builder myself youre getting better n better!
I really like these subs. I had 2 of the 10s on about 700 watts, I had to lower the volume a little, but I think they were very musical. I put them it a prefab box with the correct airspace. Very nice.
The vsw series is not only better in the nvx line but also at a great bang for the buck,but requires smaller enclosures with more xmax! Keep up the good work!
Here's some things I usually try to do when building subwoofer boxes... 1. When hollowing out cross / window braces, use circles and curved cuts, not square cuts (e.g. square and rectangular cutouts). And for the box itself, design the panel layout so you never have to slide a panel into place during glue-up time, as this can result in the glue joint not being as strong as it is between panels that are pressed into place.
We appreciate the videos on this model budget sub!! NVX has these on sale, and with your recommendation on them, I bought a set for my next daily. How are you liking these? Happy New Year!
My first experience with nvx Subs was with the nsw 104. I quickly discovered that they used to be overrated. Shortly after making a whole bunch of noise about it they dropped the rating on the subs from 350 w, down to 250 Watts. When pushing for this magic 350-watt number, I was experiencing heat-related failures. Not a mechanical failure, or electrical failure. The subs were getting so hot that the glue was melting, but never once did these subwoofers stop playing. Even in full meltdown these Subs were blasting their little hearts out. It wasn't until the spider completely detached from the speaker basket that it finally experienced a mechanical failure. I went through three sets of these before I gave up and accepted that these Subs were overrated. But I would like to make one thing clear. The voice coil on these subs is absolutely capable of withstanding 350w. However the other components that make up the speaker cannot handle the heat generated at this power level. It has a pole vent for cooling, but perhaps another vent added on the basket just below the spider might rectify the heat problem. With that being said, these Subs are now rated at 250 Watts today. And I can tell you from personal experience, that these Subs will soak up 250 W all day no problems. Running the VS Series from nvx today. These things are badass
@@DIYAudioGuy that would be great. I remember the specs used to be 300 watts in a ported enclosure, and 350w in a sealed enclosure. My testing (which, full disclosure, was done in vehicle in my driveway) involved .75 sealed enclosure. I also noticed the website is the only thing with the updated specs. I have yet to see a user's manual, a box, or a sticker on a magnet with these updated specs. I would also just like to make sure that it's clear that my comment above wasn't negative about nvx. Even though I experienced failure because I was trying to push it to the subs printed spec, I must admit to all that I was thoroughly impressed with these Subs. I am nearly confident that the nsw 104s will outperform any other sub in the $50 range. I may have had a couple of negative experiences with the subs, but my overall experience was definitely impressive. And that's the reason I purchased six of these. I burnt them out two at a time and kept going back for more precisely because I was impressed with them. There is no way the Big Brand companies can compete with NVX on a dollar per unit of performance basis.
@@nighttow8780 Hi. Thank you for yer input. I recently purchased a set of the newer design models so this will help me in tweaking my amp settings. At the very least, i'll run them inverted in my sealed box till I get used to them. Happy New Year!!
I’m jealous of your routers and your skills…😅😂 I gotta get a nail gun. I’ve got the Ridgid power tools. I love em…🤤😍 So far I’ve got a drill, 1/4 inch impact, 3/8 impact, sawzall, jigsaw, angle grinder, and the battery powered air pump. Next is gonna be a nail gun and router.
I started collecting tools about 8 years ago. Give yourself some time, patience, and dedication and you will have them. I went with the Ryobi because it was the only tool platform at the time that had an affordable cordless brad nail gun and router. I'm really happy with the Brad nailer. The cordless router is gutless and a complete waste of money. When I hit 100,000 subscribers I'm going to treat myself by switching to Milwaukee.
@@DIYAudioGuyI recommend Ryobi often, but I did have an issue with my P320 nail gun. Barely even used it and had to take it for a warranty repair. Can't beat it for the price, but that put a dent in my enthusiasm lol. I have the P601 router and it seems alright to me. It's lacking useful features like speed control and accessories of the Milwaukee, but it's also 1/3 the price or less considering battery prices. I don't "need" cordless so I just stick to my corded porter cable most of the time. I have both Milwaukee and Ryobi tools, if its something that gets used all the time id go for the Milwaukee. But I also only buy them when there's a sale 😅
i have had a few nvx subs and they sound awesome. put out pleanty of bass. i cant talk bad about them what so ever. another decent cheap sub is CT sounds. I have had a few of them as well over the years.
A couple years ago I help my buddy to pick out a subwoofer, we decided to go with a single NVX VSW-104V2 (500RMS). Before, I can set gain to match the sub, he was driving around clipping the heck out of it but, at the time not knowing he damage the subwoofer (voice coil sounds like it's still in good condition ) causing the spider to separate from the cone and wondering why it was not performing. Later on taking the sub out of the box is when I notice the damage, I was able to fix the problem using flexible E6000 adhesive which I use on another subwoofer. With that said, I compare it to my JBL GT5-12 275RMS in a prefab ported box and it is just as loud as the NVX VSW-104V2 500RMS in a prefab sealed box. (???????)
Dear Master I just love your videos and learned from you alot ☺️I'm planning for a pair of bookshelf speakers wanted to a add a 'Rear Firing Tweeter' in each as I heard it improves timbre and adds to the ambience ?! I have a medium size room 16x14ft do let me know what benefits I'll get or how to tune it through crossover I'm little confused
@@DIYAudioGuy ohh, so I guess you haven't used it on your DIY projects, will you ever try once and verify what it brings to the experience would love to see that🙂
Enjoying the channel. Would like to know if you have any experience with the Skar Audio dual 12" enclosures for 2015 F150? The loaded box doesn't seem to have enough air space for the vd-12 subs that comes with it...
No experience, with them. But your instincts sound correct. The problem is you're trying to squeeze subwoofers into a tight space, so you really can't build the optimal box. You're stuck with what fits.
@DIYAudioGuy thank you for the response. Based on the enclosure specs: Ported Port Width 5.25" Total Box Volume 1.65 Cubic Ft Tuning Frequency of 38 Hz I thought of the American Bass es1244 subs. They claim .75 Cub Ft ported recommended... this sounds like a better setup. I have a sundown sfb 2000 amp...
Please make a video on the importance of volume of the cabinet. You and other bassheads stress too on air volume but Jbl, Devialet, Bose even Sonos subwoofers hardly have massive air volumes. How do they manage to produce deeper softer and solid bass ?
I have one of these in my corolla cause it was the cheapest/ best performance i could find for the amps I had to work with. I wonder what WinISD thinks about my box specs 😅
@@UserKadosh I already made my box. I just used a calculator and went off the tuning frequency and volume suggestions. Would be nice to see what the program says about tune response and stuff
If you are looking for a budget subwoofer consider these instead:
howl.me/clNV6G949eV
amzn.to/3PaeeO3
amzn.to/48QLLUu
I have been curious about these subs. I grew up with brick and mortars being able to listen before buying but that is pretty much long gone so using videos like yours is gonna go a long way in my final decision to subs to purchase. Thanks from VA.
It is a different time. The bad news is that you really can't get a good idea of how it sounds over youtube.
Nice attention to detail, the right tools make a world of difference. Great content💯👍
Yes it does!
Good tip would be. Carpet the cabinet before adding your last baffle and aslo wrapping that one before glueing. Just rabbit the back of it to compensate for the vinyl material. Itll save you around the port so you want have pieces come up later in time. Wither way it still looks nice . As a learning box builder myself youre getting better n better!
Making the box look good is the hardest part.
I gave that a try in my most recent build. It worked a little better, but vinyl wrapping is stall tricky. th-cam.com/video/22TdPb-ctDA/w-d-xo.html
Skills are improving every enclosure.
Yep!
I really like these subs. I had 2 of the 10s on about 700 watts, I had to lower the volume a little, but I think they were very musical. I put them it a prefab box with the correct airspace. Very nice.
Awesome, I am glad you liked them.
The vsw series is not only better in the nvx line but also at a great bang for the buck,but requires smaller enclosures with more xmax! Keep up the good work!
If you are looking for a budget subwoofer consider these instead:
howl.me/clNV6G949eV
amzn.to/3PaeeO3
amzn.to/48QLLUu
Upping your game with every video! I love it! It's so awesome to see the progress you've made!
Thank you so much!!
5:07 Thats what ya call learning from experience lol. Changing router bits is a pain
It is a lot easier with this lift, but it still takes time.
Love your vids! keep em coming!
More to come!
Best part of the building when it's over.
when will you be releasing your spacer tool for the port? how much
That will depend on how many people ask about it!
Best part is when the customer picks up the box and sees what a real box can do.
The box matters.
Here's some things I usually try to do when building subwoofer boxes...
1. When hollowing out cross / window braces, use circles and curved cuts, not square cuts (e.g. square and rectangular cutouts). And for the box itself, design the panel layout so you never have to slide a panel into place during glue-up time, as this can result in the glue joint not being as strong as it is between panels that are pressed into place.
Thanks for the tip.
We appreciate the videos on this model budget sub!!
NVX has these on sale, and with your recommendation on them, I bought a set for my next daily.
How are you liking these?
Happy New Year!
Been rocking nvx subs for years! (vcw's) They really sound great! Nice box!
Just wait until you see the next video. I'm really happy with the way it turned out.
I like how you did the roundover on the Port! Did you use a special bullnose?
Nope, just a simple round over bit.
I have two of those in my spare bedroom connected to a crown xli1500. Man they bang hard! I'm using a prefab harmony audio box
They are solid budget subs. Not many in this price range will have push terminals.
@@DIYAudioGuy Exactly, great bang for the buck
Nicely done bro...well well done..
Thanks!
Might consider wrapping that secondary “baffle” accent before gluing it down. Just a thought.
I thought about doing that.
Great work! I appreciate your cheap subs looking and sounding great approach. That's me!
Nothing wrong with running affordable gear.
Thank you man!!
Heavy hitter with great energy as usual🎉
You are welcome.
I like using narrow crown 18g staples. They seem to hold better.
You are probably right. I have a nailer that can use those and/or brads.
My first experience with nvx Subs was with the nsw 104. I quickly discovered that they used to be overrated. Shortly after making a whole bunch of noise about it they dropped the rating on the subs from 350 w, down to 250 Watts. When pushing for this magic 350-watt number, I was experiencing heat-related failures. Not a mechanical failure, or electrical failure. The subs were getting so hot that the glue was melting, but never once did these subwoofers stop playing. Even in full meltdown these Subs were blasting their little hearts out. It wasn't until the spider completely detached from the speaker basket that it finally experienced a mechanical failure. I went through three sets of these before I gave up and accepted that these Subs were overrated. But I would like to make one thing clear. The voice coil on these subs is absolutely capable of withstanding 350w. However the other components that make up the speaker cannot handle the heat generated at this power level. It has a pole vent for cooling, but perhaps another vent added on the basket just below the spider might rectify the heat problem.
With that being said, these Subs are now rated at 250 Watts today. And I can tell you from personal experience, that these Subs will soak up 250 W all day no problems.
Running the VS Series from nvx today. These things are badass
I have them hooked up to a 700w amp, will let you know if they cant' handle it.
@@DIYAudioGuy that would be great. I remember the specs used to be 300 watts in a ported enclosure, and 350w in a sealed enclosure. My testing (which, full disclosure, was done in vehicle in my driveway) involved .75 sealed enclosure. I also noticed the website is the only thing with the updated specs. I have yet to see a user's manual, a box, or a sticker on a magnet with these updated specs.
I would also just like to make sure that it's clear that my comment above wasn't negative about nvx. Even though I experienced failure because I was trying to push it to the subs printed spec, I must admit to all that I was thoroughly impressed with these Subs. I am nearly confident that the nsw 104s will outperform any other sub in the $50 range.
I may have had a couple of negative experiences with the subs, but my overall experience was definitely impressive. And that's the reason I purchased six of these. I burnt them out two at a time and kept going back for more precisely because I was impressed with them.
There is no way the Big Brand companies can compete with NVX on a dollar per unit of performance basis.
@@nighttow8780 Hi. Thank you for yer input. I recently purchased a set of the newer design models so this will help me in tweaking my amp settings. At the very least, i'll run them inverted in my sealed box till I get used to them. Happy New Year!!
@@CherrySquishee happy new year! And good luck with your new subs!
@@nighttow8780 Thank you!!
3:24 good call
Always enjoy your videos 🤙
Glad you like them!
Nice box
Thanks!
I’m jealous of your routers and your skills…😅😂 I gotta get a nail gun. I’ve got the Ridgid power tools. I love em…🤤😍 So far I’ve got a drill, 1/4 inch impact, 3/8 impact, sawzall, jigsaw, angle grinder, and the battery powered air pump. Next is gonna be a nail gun and router.
I started collecting tools about 8 years ago. Give yourself some time, patience, and dedication and you will have them.
I went with the Ryobi because it was the only tool platform at the time that had an affordable cordless brad nail gun and router. I'm really happy with the Brad nailer. The cordless router is gutless and a complete waste of money. When I hit 100,000 subscribers I'm going to treat myself by switching to Milwaukee.
@@DIYAudioGuyI recommend Ryobi often, but I did have an issue with my P320 nail gun. Barely even used it and had to take it for a warranty repair. Can't beat it for the price, but that put a dent in my enthusiasm lol.
I have the P601 router and it seems alright to me. It's lacking useful features like speed control and accessories of the Milwaukee, but it's also 1/3 the price or less considering battery prices. I don't "need" cordless so I just stick to my corded porter cable most of the time.
I have both Milwaukee and Ryobi tools, if its something that gets used all the time id go for the Milwaukee. But I also only buy them when there's a sale 😅
@@DIYAudioGuy Yeah Milwaukee is really nice… I got like 3rd or 4th in the lineup but they are plenty good for anything I need. I love my tools
I liked all the tips gj!
Glad you enjoyed!
i have had a few nvx subs and they sound awesome. put out pleanty of bass. i cant talk bad about them what so ever. another decent cheap sub is CT sounds. I have had a few of them as well over the years.
I have not had the chance to try out CT sounds.
A couple years ago I help my buddy to pick out a subwoofer, we decided to go with a single NVX VSW-104V2 (500RMS). Before, I can set gain to match the sub, he was driving around clipping the heck out of it but, at the time not knowing he damage the subwoofer (voice coil sounds like it's still in good condition ) causing the spider to separate from the cone and wondering why it was not performing. Later on taking the sub out of the box is when I notice the damage, I was able to fix the problem using flexible E6000 adhesive which I use on another subwoofer. With that said, I compare it to my JBL GT5-12 275RMS in a prefab ported box and it is just as loud as the NVX VSW-104V2 500RMS in a prefab sealed box. (???????)
Cool! Glad you were able to fix it.
@@DIYAudioGuy Yep.
I would be interested in knowing how it turned out, performance wise
Stay tuned! The video was getting a bit long so I split it into two parts, part 2 drops next week. But my patrons have already seen it.
Dear Master I just love your videos and learned from you alot ☺️I'm planning for a pair of bookshelf speakers wanted to a add a 'Rear Firing Tweeter' in each as I heard it improves timbre and adds to the ambience ?! I have a medium size room 16x14ft do let me know what benefits I'll get or how to tune it through crossover I'm little confused
Personally, I think that the rear-firing tweeter is snake oil. That is just my opinion.
@@DIYAudioGuy ohh, so I guess you haven't used it on your DIY projects, will you ever try once and verify what it brings to the experience would love to see that🙂
Enjoying the channel. Would like to know if you have any experience with the Skar Audio dual 12" enclosures for 2015 F150? The loaded box doesn't seem to have enough air space for the vd-12 subs that comes with it...
No experience, with them. But your instincts sound correct. The problem is you're trying to squeeze subwoofers into a tight space, so you really can't build the optimal box. You're stuck with what fits.
@DIYAudioGuy thank you for the response. Based on the enclosure specs:
Ported
Port Width 5.25"
Total Box Volume 1.65 Cubic Ft
Tuning Frequency of 38 Hz
I thought of the American Bass es1244 subs. They claim .75 Cub Ft ported recommended... this sounds like a better setup. I have a sundown sfb 2000 amp...
Please make a video on the importance of volume of the cabinet. You and other bassheads stress too on air volume but Jbl, Devialet, Bose even Sonos subwoofers hardly have massive air volumes. How do they manage to produce deeper softer and solid bass ?
I have several videos on the topic.
Those brands use a lot of DSP to shape the sound.
I’m great with a router but I wish I had the room for a router table.
I used to drag mine out to the patio when I first started doing this. It was a pain .
@@DIYAudioGuy I’ve been putting off building a shop in the name of making more money 🤣
I have one of these in my corolla cause it was the cheapest/ best performance i could find for the amps I had to work with.
I wonder what WinISD thinks about my box specs 😅
i can help you design a box for free if you want
@@UserKadosh I already made my box. I just used a calculator and went off the tuning frequency and volume suggestions. Would be nice to see what the program says about tune response and stuff
"I like cheap subs...'
And (us) bassheads can't deny
Could you test some RI Audio budget sub. I’ve been running 4 RI Audio 10s for over a year. At $94 each 800 watts RMS
I've never heard of them, where can you buy them at?
I want to make a subwoofer box out of poured concrete!
Go for it.
👍✌️
👍