As a lady ,, 67 years old , I’ve ridden in so much gear ,, these days I just ride a st twin 900 ,, we do big miles ,, he on a bmw adventure, I swear by Rukka , he is wet through , I’m still warm and dry stop coffee he’s wet through my jacket just dripping off .. just pop on again off we go I’m dry and warm ,,, suki pro ,,, just shame about the gloves ! Ps had full licence,,, 50 years 🎉!
My partner rides pillion and we ride in all but the depths of Winter. She has a problem of always eventually feeling cold, even in the summer. I’m sure there are many men and women that are the same. We bought a top range Rukka with both the down trouser and puffer jacket to wear underneath. She’s never been cold or wet since and, the heated gear only now required if we head north into Scandinavia. Unlike Chris, I’m not qualified to give an expert opinion and rattle the troops, but what I can say is that we were given the right advice and the problem was fully resolved 👍😎
I am very fortunate in having a Rukka drop liner suit in the 3 years of owning its only wetted out once (last week on a 3 hour return from wales) for summer its a Marrakesh please take heed of Motolegends it’s definitely born out by my experience.
I always use my Rukka Nivala jacket and either Rokker waterproof jeans or Halvarssons laminate pant and would never go back to a drop linner they wetout very quickly and take ages to dry I also have a complete layering system Klim Marrakesh and Zephyr Scott etc but find it to clumsy and time-consuming when it suddenly rains For me laminated gear is the best and if you ride in the UK it will be for anyone with the amount of rain we now get
Perfect answer; I have a Rukka Comfort R drop liner suite which I spray with nanotechnology water repellent. It doesn't wet out just like a laminated suite and I stay perfectly dry. I also have a Halvarsson summer jack and jeans for summer. Thanks for another great review Chris.
I'm riding with Stadler for 60 000 kms now in 2.5 years, all year all weather in Belgium and not a drop reached my body. The front zip was repaired under warranty and the trousers where repaired (at my cost) after a low-side slide at highway speeds. Super Vent gives enough ventilation even in summer heat. I also use Helite Turtle airbagvest. Perfectly happy here. Before the Stadler, I used the Revit Neptune (dropliner) and I wetted this one out on several ocasions, to the point taht when i left work in the evening, the outer jacked was still wet and made me feel very cold.
Stadler is the top suit out there today. But it’s due at 80% to made in Germany and Engineering. lt’s built for a battle not for the tarmac . It’also the most expensive, 2500/3000 euro for a full suit is too much.
Yes , There is no 4 seasons jacket, but the closest one for sure is RUKA, in the cold weather it’s outstanding, in the hot weather with a good layering you will be fine, I tried the Marrakesh layering system chris always talk about , it does work great in little cold but not that good in a really cold weather and it’s a Headache because you have to change your clothes constantly. And regarding the drop liner, even if you hang it over the night to dry, it will be still wet next day on the sleeves.
Sorry to say, but that is definitely not true. Look at Stadler venting system, THAT is a 4 season gear and not the "poor" Venting System from Rukka, thus Stadler comes the closest to a 4 season jacket. My personal opinion is, that I do not need a 4 season jacket. In (hot) summer and warm autumn/spring a have my Mesh jacket, In Spring, Autum and Winter I have my winter jacket.
@@martinsgarten5280 ok then, if we are removing the summer jacket from the comparison, and i agree with you on that. then RUKA is the better option for winter for its comfort , it’s way comfortable than stadler.
@@buyaqub ok, if you only rely on comfort, true - I tried the comfo-R and it was much nicer than the kingsley/shield to wear. For me, I take all circumstances into account weight them due to my needs and for me, protection and the use of the gear in case you get in contact the the ground is more important, as well as the venting. But I agree, everybody has own priorities, what I do not like is - like motolegend is doing it - is to pic one thing into account, praise it as hell, make the disadvantages look minor or defend them even.
I own a Rukka Nevala 2 and commute 200 miles a week into London over two days a week. Yesterday was a turential downpour and the suit kept me bone dry and confortable. I've also got a layed approach with Klim Marakesh and Scott waterproofs on the outer. Both work great but if you are caught off gaurd you can't stop on teh hard shoulder of the M25 to put yoru water proofs on. If you are a serious commuter buy the Rukka.
If I were commuting, I too would wear a Rukka or Aerostich suit. Living in San Francisco, you can’t beat them for the sudden weather changes. I’m retired and do long distance touring where I can anticipate the weather along my route (thanks to weather Apps like OnTheWay) , and for that, layering with my Marrakesh (includes heated liner and gloves that extends to 4 seasons) and Scott outer kit like yours works best.
After having laminated suits and drop liner suits over the last 25+ years I have found that for autumn,winter and spring riding my wax cotton suit is faultless,bone dry and consistent. For summer it's light textiles/jeans and waterproof over jacket/trousers.
Great video as always Chris. A bit of topic but as you mentioned Scott's id like to add that i purchased Scott's jacket and pants on your recommendation and it was the best purchase ive ever made.iv never been drier. Its so good i wear that while i work. I work on building sites and could be in the rain all day. Scott's work perfectly. However i think Scott's have missed an opportunity. Scott's jackets don't have huds or pockets for obvious reasons but they should provide a hat to match the jacket for those of us who don't only use there gear for riding in. Dog walkers etc would probably love a hat thats made from same material as the jacket and pants. Why stop there! Gloves too, not riding gloves just walking around waterproof gloves
I bought a Rukka suit for touring. As Chris said, it was the wrong choice. The jacket was heavy and stiff, as were the trousers. The jacket weighed almost 2kg more than my Klim Longtitude, which when wearing it 6 or 8 hours makes a massive difference!
Interesting. When looking for a laminated suit in 2022, I hade some similar experience. Basically you have to spend over 2000+ € for a quality suit. Most brands lacked a good finish, especially around the neck (also a small weakness of my KLIM badlands - its okay but could be better): - Stadler had a poor very slim sizing - which surprised me, as our German police bike riding officers normally arent the slimmest people. but maybe they do offer different fitting there - Rukka had a great neck finish, but was very much tailored towards winter riding with very limited air vents (I think only 2 front vents on the jacket), together with black colour. I prefer summer riding over winter, and I need air flow. And yes I tried the most expensive one. - this left me with KLIM BADLANDS suit - yes the trousers have a wide finish, but its okay for me to use adventure boots on my trips as I prefer to protecty my ankles. I feel that Daytona boots are a bit overhyped given the soft shaft and shin protection (just 2 leather layers) that most of their models offer. it also doesnt look good to wear such a broad and heavy suit together with 2 thin pair of shoes, but I guess thats a matter of personal taste - KLIM BADLANDS has kind of a space suit look and feel like an astronaut 🙂 .
Completely agree with what you say, I ride a lot of miles all year round until it snows, all round Europe. It’s all about loosing body heat. Rukka is best I just wish the fronts were a little longer for the taller rider. Klim just doesn’t fit me at all.
Try saying Rukkakurapuku three times quickly. I haven't had a Rukka suit since I was like 6 or 7 (here they are mostly known for their kids' rain-wear) and now that I started riding at 35 I'm definitely looking to get some Rukka gear. They have an obvious home turf advantage here in Finland because it rarely gets too warm for laminated gear so it almost works as an everyday wear. It's nice to see Rukka appreciated globally.
Laminate uncomfortable at 25 degrees Chris? Above 18 degrees in the UK summer I am in mesh jacket like the Klim Induction Pro, with S4 over the top good down to 10 degrees. 15 degrees is the ‘limit’ for me that usually requires a Klim Carlsbad or Badlands if very bad weather. I promise to buy a Rukka or Stadler suit from you, one day 😀
I got one 1984. Best l have ever had, by a lot. I work in the industry and have worn over 40 by now. You just do not get wet in a Rukka. You can sweat a lot in one.
I don't understand the negativity towards the Stadler suit. You sold me one a couple of years ago and it is the best I have had - really comfortable and well fitting. It feels incredibly secure and well made. Jacket ventilation is pretty good with all the vents open although I admit the trousers could do with more. I have an older Rukka Navigatorr suit and I much prefer the feel and fit of the Stadler which was also notably less expensive (but not cheap) than the Rukka kit at the time.
I do not believe that I was rude about Stadler. In fact, just the contrary; I stated that their gear was superb and that, in different circumstances, I would have been claiming that Stadler made the best gear. However, I felt that I could not do this because of the way their new jackets fitted. This is why we are not currently offering any Stadler jackets; and this decision has nothing to do with their functionality. We did return a number of Treasure Pro jackets to Stadler for this reason. We only sold a very few of these before we returned the stock, so that's probably not the jacket you wear.
@@Motolegends I said negative, not rude. You are correct though as I have the Supervent 3 jacket (which is still showing on your website) and which I am very happy with. It's a shame that sizing issues have stopped you selling Stadler - for the time being at least.
Rukka kit is generally good quality. Where the problem begins is if you have an issue with a garment. You are then at the mercy of their importer (TranAm/Bikerheadz). Rukka and TranAm have poor customer aftercare. I was in the trade, dealt with them both, and won’t be buying Rukka again.
Sorry. You should not be making excuses for ￡1000 Jackets being single A rated. Big armour is no substitute for a decent jacket chassis. I won't be buying another Rukka until they significantly raise their game. We should be demanding 4A and 5A tests in the next regulation updates.
I agree - and if you buy such an expensive gear and after a slide you need to buy another one because the garment is through, no way. I saw 1000PS (Austrian channel) showing a guy with 300.000km on his Stadler suit, 2 slides and only minor repairs done in Germany at Stadler on that, and the Stadler costs nearly the same.
@@martinsgarten5280 Well, probably Stadler pays 20% commission to retailers, while Rukka 40%? I have no idea, but there must be a reason that some manufacturers are promoted so much everywhere despite clear disadvantages (safety, price or other).
4 under rain? Why?? When? Where? It is 350-500km on the road!! R u sure that (only Rukka's) Gtx Pro 3L would witstand 4h? Would any GTX PRO 3L stay dry after 4h? Do u have any testimony for that? Do you have Rukka factory rider with confirmed "non stop 4h" kill?
The Rev'it Tench is the best jacket I've ever worn. It's 4 years old, now. I need to start the search for another one. I'm tired of seeing that same ole jacket, every day. Lol
Rukka have issues with honouring warranties. A good friend of mine had the zip go on his Nivala jacket in under two years. Tran Am turned down his claim because when they examined the jacket they found a small hole in the sleeve of the jacket and this , even though it had no bearing on the zip failure, was enough for them to refuse the claim. That's one person who won't buy Rukka again.
Just had a thought... Like you say Chris, warranties are for manufacturing faults/ defects.. But it begs the question - Most defects are discovered within the first few days/weeks/months, so does that not make extended warranties a little redundant? When a product becomes 2/4/6/8 yrs old, problems are more likely a wear and tear issue.. So if a component of an item 'falls off' or leaks or fails in some way,after this amount of time, how do we know if the item just suffers from wear and tear or the particular item on this occasion just isnt up to usual standards??.. We're at the mercy of the companies discretion a bit here..😉
Yes, a good point; and indeed I am going to risk a video on this. My view is that if something is shoddy it should come to light within a couple of years, and so this makes five and 10 year warranties virtually meaningless, unless something is very little used. The manufacturers get carried away, and think that there are those who will but their gear if it has a longer warranty than another brand. But really it’s marketing hype. I will indeed explore this in a video soon. CP
@@douglaswinton826 Ok there is debate, but to criticise so publicly another TH-cam channel trying to help us riders out is not acceptable. There are many areas where Motolegends could be called out due to their pompous belief that they know best. Unprofessional!
@@idontwantahandle12345I have to say our man Chris in this video is not a character to warm to. Knowledgeable - but knows it. That’s not a good combination. I bought some gloves, jeans and a Scott waterproof jacket and trousers from them about 5 years ago. It wasn’t a warming experience and I felt like a kid being told he’d been wearing the wrong gear for a lifetime. They must have been very good at their put downs as I’ve never been back. Infinity Motorcycles at Southampton and Farnborough have benefited hugely from MotoLegends attitude and watching these videos has done nothing to convince me I should return to ML to buy again. Forgive my rant, not directed at the commenter. It’s such a shame, these videos are informative but it’s just like standing in front of an unhappy headmaster. Never a good feeling.
@@PhilbyFavourites I too have visited several times. Being talked down to as if I am some idiot that has never ridden I bike before means I purchased elsewhere. ML, remember you are just a clothing store for motorcyclists… not the world authorities.
I may well be wrong but I thought that the basic suit scuff protection allows up to 9 secounds on the tarmac. So all good suits should give a fair degree of safety. Am I wrong.
Yes. Don’t know where that came from. Some stuff will look after your skin at 20 mph; other stuff at much higher speeds. But then, as I said, there’s the armour; and in many ways the armour is more important than the abrasion resistance of the outer fabric. CC
@@Motolegends BUT from a cost perspective I then need a new NIVALA - and they do not repair, if I buy a Stadler, after a slide only minor damage which will be repaired in Germany for minor costs. To sum it up: better venting system, better protection, cheaper repair instead of new buying, 10 yrs waranty for nearly the same price - ok excluding the down x (I am talking about the treasure/free sports pro.
I have had a Rukka jacket and pants for about 8 years, Fantastic. I have just bought a lighter Rukka jacket this week. I have a pair of Rukka over mitts I have had over, I would say 30 years Fantastic. But gloves a different story Very disappointing I called into a very well known motocycle clothing store, on my way from the north West to Suffolk. I dropped my helmet, and decided to purchase a new one, I called into the store i purchased a new expensive helmet. And decided I would treat myself to a pair of Rukka gloves to go with my Rukka jacket and trousers. The first time it rained my gloves started leaking. I called the store. They asked me if I had the receipt I can't just find it because I'm in the middle of moving house, But I have my bank statement. That's no good was the reply. So I emailed Rukka in Finland I expanded my situation, They said the same. So I offered to send my gloves at my own expense to Finland. They can see that they are new, If they think I'm trying it on, then they can keep the gloves, I was told not to send the gloves to Finland. So if you keep your receipts just hope that the ink of your receipts don't fade.
This may sound as though I’m stirring, but that sounds like bollocks. If you can prove that you paid for the gloves, that should be enough. It would be with us, although of course with us every order would go on the system with a customer’s details. But here’s the thing; Rukka’s gloves are guaranteed for life for waterproofing by Gore, so you shouldn’t have a problem. Send the gloves to Gore. CP
Chris, Chap in the Cap. Love your videos. But, every time you mispronounce KLIM, it stands out to me. KLIM is pronounced like “clime” as in climate. I expect you have gotten this feedback before. Here’s a video from KLIM where the company founders pronounce the name of their firm correctly. th-cam.com/video/tbSbgCDsc3s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ak7i5Ygzq2_o1Ri3 Sorry to be picky, but I am sure credibility is important to Motolegends and pronouncing the name of one of your key product lines correctly can only be a good thing. Keith
@buyaqub Below is spot on. Especially if you ride in a group in the UK as I do, when the whether changes, and believe me it changes a lot, you cannot constantly stop and put on weatherproofs, for then take them off again, when the weather inevitably changes again.... In the UK, if you ride all year-round, Rukka laminated is probably the best choice. You could probably wear it eight/nine months of the year
We haven’t really done the one that doesn’t work. We did do one style for a few months that we were concerned about, but because we didn’t like it we sent 100 jackets back to Germany. If you’ve got the Supervent, you’re fine. The model that didn’t work as well for us, but that we offered for a few months, was called the Treasure Pro. But I suppose my point would be that if that suit works for you, then fine. CP
As a lady ,, 67 years old , I’ve ridden in so much gear ,, these days I just ride a st twin 900 ,, we do big miles ,, he on a bmw adventure, I swear by Rukka , he is wet through , I’m still warm and dry stop coffee he’s wet through my jacket just dripping off .. just pop on again off we go I’m dry and warm ,,, suki pro ,,, just shame about the gloves ! Ps had full licence,,, 50 years 🎉!
My partner rides pillion and we ride in all but the depths of Winter. She has a problem of always eventually feeling cold, even in the summer. I’m sure there are many men and women that are the same. We bought a top range Rukka with both the down trouser and puffer jacket to wear underneath. She’s never been cold or wet since and, the heated gear only now required if we head north into Scandinavia. Unlike Chris, I’m not qualified to give an expert opinion and rattle the troops, but what I can say is that we were given the right advice and the problem was fully resolved 👍😎
I use the Rukka Comfo-R and it is pefect for me. Ride all year round in the south of Sweden. When it gets really hot I use the Klim Marrakesh.
I am very fortunate in having a Rukka drop liner suit in the 3 years of owning its only wetted out once (last week on a 3 hour return from wales) for summer its a Marrakesh please take heed of Motolegends it’s definitely born out by my experience.
I always use my Rukka Nivala jacket and either Rokker waterproof jeans or Halvarssons laminate pant and would never go back to a drop linner they wetout very quickly and take ages to dry
I also have a complete layering system Klim Marrakesh and Zephyr Scott etc but find it to clumsy and time-consuming when it suddenly rains
For me laminated gear is the best and if you ride in the UK it will be for anyone with the amount of rain we now get
Perfect answer; I have a Rukka Comfort R drop liner suite which I spray with nanotechnology water repellent. It doesn't wet out just like a laminated suite and I stay perfectly dry. I also have a Halvarsson summer jack and jeans for summer. Thanks for another great review Chris.
A really helpful video, Chris, that’s a useful guide to the right kind of gear for the conditions in which I ride. Thank you.
I'm riding with Stadler for 60 000 kms now in 2.5 years, all year all weather in Belgium and not a drop reached my body. The front zip was repaired under warranty and the trousers where repaired (at my cost) after a low-side slide at highway speeds. Super Vent gives enough ventilation even in summer heat. I also use Helite Turtle airbagvest. Perfectly happy here.
Before the Stadler, I used the Revit Neptune (dropliner) and I wetted this one out on several ocasions, to the point taht when i left work in the evening, the outer jacked was still wet and made me feel very cold.
Which statler suit please? I also live in Belgium and planning some road touring once I get my license.
Stadler is the top suit out there today. But it’s due at 80% to made in Germany and Engineering. lt’s built for a battle not for the tarmac . It’also the most expensive, 2500/3000 euro for a full suit is too much.
Yes , There is no 4 seasons jacket, but the closest one for sure is RUKA, in the cold weather it’s outstanding, in the hot weather with a good layering you will be fine, I tried the Marrakesh layering system chris always talk about , it does work great in little cold but not that good in a really cold weather and it’s a Headache because you have to change your clothes constantly.
And regarding the drop liner, even if you hang it over the night to dry, it will be still wet next day on the sleeves.
Sorry to say, but that is definitely not true. Look at Stadler venting system, THAT is a 4 season gear and not the "poor" Venting System from Rukka, thus Stadler comes the closest to a 4 season jacket. My personal opinion is, that I do not need a 4 season jacket. In (hot) summer and warm autumn/spring a have my Mesh jacket, In Spring, Autum and Winter I have my winter jacket.
@@martinsgarten5280 ok then, if we are removing the summer jacket from the comparison, and i agree with you on that. then RUKA is the better option for winter for its comfort , it’s way comfortable than stadler.
@@buyaqub ok, if you only rely on comfort, true - I tried the comfo-R and it was much nicer than the kingsley/shield to wear. For me, I take all circumstances into account weight them due to my needs and for me, protection and the use of the gear in case you get in contact the the ground is more important, as well as the venting. But I agree, everybody has own priorities, what I do not like is - like motolegend is doing it - is to pic one thing into account, praise it as hell, make the disadvantages look minor or defend them even.
I own a Rukka Nevala 2 and commute 200 miles a week into London over two days a week. Yesterday was a turential downpour and the suit kept me bone dry and confortable. I've also got a layed approach with Klim Marakesh and Scott waterproofs on the outer. Both work great but if you are caught off gaurd you can't stop on teh hard shoulder of the M25 to put yoru water proofs on. If you are a serious commuter buy the Rukka.
If I were commuting, I too would wear a Rukka or Aerostich suit. Living in San Francisco, you can’t beat them for the sudden weather changes. I’m retired and do long distance touring where I can anticipate the weather along my route (thanks to weather Apps like OnTheWay) , and for that, layering with my Marrakesh (includes heated liner and gloves that extends to 4 seasons) and Scott outer kit like yours works best.
Good choice for touring. I just come back from aa France Belgium and Germany trip and layered approach worked great.@@4940markhutchins
Rukka laminates: top for the winter, in the summer, I prefer a Rukka mesh. Thanks Chris for the tips about Scott rain gear.
i bought the REV IT vertical gore tex jacket and pants and have found them to be very good so far.
After having laminated suits and drop liner suits over the last 25+ years I have found that for autumn,winter and spring riding my wax cotton suit is faultless,bone dry and consistent. For summer it's light textiles/jeans and waterproof over jacket/trousers.
Great video as always Chris. A bit of topic but as you mentioned Scott's id like to add that i purchased Scott's jacket and pants on your recommendation and it was the best purchase ive ever made.iv never been drier. Its so good i wear that while i work. I work on building sites and could be in the rain all day. Scott's work perfectly. However i think Scott's have missed an opportunity. Scott's jackets don't have huds or pockets for obvious reasons but they should provide a hat to match the jacket for those of us who don't only use there gear for riding in. Dog walkers etc would probably love a hat thats made from same material as the jacket and pants.
Why stop there! Gloves too, not riding gloves just walking around waterproof gloves
Another great video and the honesty of this guy is so refreshing! Keep up the good work guys 👍🏻
I bought a Rukka suit for touring. As Chris said, it was the wrong choice. The jacket was heavy and stiff, as were the trousers. The jacket weighed almost 2kg more than my Klim Longtitude, which when wearing it 6 or 8 hours makes a massive difference!
Interesting. When looking for a laminated suit in 2022, I hade some similar experience. Basically you have to spend over 2000+ € for a quality suit. Most brands lacked a good finish, especially around the neck (also a small weakness of my KLIM badlands - its okay but could be better):
- Stadler had a poor very slim sizing - which surprised me, as our German police bike riding officers normally arent the slimmest people. but maybe they do offer different fitting there
- Rukka had a great neck finish, but was very much tailored towards winter riding with very limited air vents (I think only 2 front vents on the jacket), together with black colour. I prefer summer riding over winter, and I need air flow. And yes I tried the most expensive one.
- this left me with KLIM BADLANDS suit - yes the trousers have a wide finish, but its okay for me to use adventure boots on my trips as I prefer to protecty my ankles. I feel that Daytona boots are a bit overhyped given the soft shaft and shin protection (just 2 leather layers) that most of their models offer. it also doesnt look good to wear such a broad and heavy suit together with 2 thin pair of shoes, but I guess thats a matter of personal taste - KLIM BADLANDS has kind of a space suit look and feel like an astronaut 🙂 .
Thank you for the quality and clarity of your content
Very comprehensive and insightful video, as usual. Thank you !
I love my staddler which I purchased off your good selves.
I find it as comfortable as my rukka
Love your insightful and honest reviews, Chris!
How does the American brand Aerostich R3 or Darien suit compare?
Completely agree with what you say, I ride a lot of miles all year round until it snows, all round Europe. It’s all about loosing body heat. Rukka is best I just wish the fronts were a little longer for the taller rider. Klim just doesn’t fit me at all.
Try saying Rukkakurapuku three times quickly. I haven't had a Rukka suit since I was like 6 or 7 (here they are mostly known for their kids' rain-wear) and now that I started riding at 35 I'm definitely looking to get some Rukka gear. They have an obvious home turf advantage here in Finland because it rarely gets too warm for laminated gear so it almost works as an everyday wear. It's nice to see Rukka appreciated globally.
Laminate uncomfortable at 25 degrees Chris? Above 18 degrees in the UK summer I am in mesh jacket like the Klim Induction Pro, with S4 over the top good down to 10 degrees. 15 degrees is the ‘limit’ for me that usually requires a Klim Carlsbad or Badlands if very bad weather. I promise to buy a Rukka or Stadler suit from you, one day 😀
Love these videos mate. Btw, over the channel here in Denmark we have a lot og ‘rukka weather’ so goes for the rest of Scandinavia 😅
ive got Rukka and its the best thing i vere bought
I got one 1984. Best l have ever had, by a lot. I work in the industry and have worn over 40 by now. You just do not get wet in a Rukka. You can sweat a lot in one.
I don't understand the negativity towards the Stadler suit. You sold me one a couple of years ago and it is the best I have had - really comfortable and well fitting. It feels incredibly secure and well made. Jacket ventilation is pretty good with all the vents open although I admit the trousers could do with more. I have an older Rukka Navigatorr suit and I much prefer the feel and fit of the Stadler which was also notably less expensive (but not cheap) than the Rukka kit at the time.
I do not believe that I was rude about Stadler. In fact, just the contrary; I stated that their gear was superb and that, in different circumstances, I would have been claiming that Stadler made the best gear. However, I felt that I could not do this because of the way their new jackets fitted. This is why we are not currently offering any Stadler jackets; and this decision has nothing to do with their functionality. We did return a number of Treasure Pro jackets to Stadler for this reason. We only sold a very few of these before we returned the stock, so that's probably not the jacket you wear.
@@Motolegends I said negative, not rude. You are correct though as I have the Supervent 3 jacket (which is still showing on your website) and which I am very happy with. It's a shame that sizing issues have stopped you selling Stadler - for the time being at least.
Rukka kit is generally good quality. Where the problem begins is if you have an issue with a garment. You are then at the mercy of their importer (TranAm/Bikerheadz). Rukka and TranAm have poor customer aftercare. I was in the trade, dealt with them both, and won’t be buying Rukka again.
Ive used Dainese textile goretex for many years, its top notch
Sorry. You should not be making excuses for ￡1000 Jackets being single A rated. Big armour is no substitute for a decent jacket chassis.
I won't be buying another Rukka until they significantly raise their game.
We should be demanding 4A and 5A tests in the next regulation updates.
I agree - and if you buy such an expensive gear and after a slide you need to buy another one because the garment is through, no way. I saw 1000PS (Austrian channel) showing a guy with 300.000km on his Stadler suit, 2 slides and only minor repairs done in Germany at Stadler on that, and the Stadler costs nearly the same.
@@martinsgarten5280 Well, probably Stadler pays 20% commission to retailers, while Rukka 40%? I have no idea, but there must be a reason that some manufacturers are promoted so much everywhere despite clear disadvantages (safety, price or other).
If you can afford a custom built for you only Aerostich in Duluth Minnesota. Off the rack I would not know. So info us up.
4 under rain? Why?? When? Where?
It is 350-500km on the road!!
R u sure that (only Rukka's) Gtx Pro 3L would witstand 4h?
Would any GTX PRO 3L stay dry after 4h?
Do u have any testimony for that?
Do you have Rukka factory rider with confirmed "non stop 4h" kill?
The Rev'it Tench is the best jacket I've ever worn. It's 4 years old, now. I need to start the search for another one. I'm tired of seeing that same ole jacket, every day. Lol
I agree. I have one. Not the best but very good
There is Revit Trench 2 just released
Do Textiles have a low thermal conductivity? Like covec jeans
Rukka have issues with honouring warranties. A good friend of mine had the zip go on his Nivala jacket in under two years. Tran Am turned down his claim because when they examined the jacket they found a small hole in the sleeve of the jacket and this , even though it had no bearing on the zip failure, was enough for them to refuse the claim. That's one person who won't buy Rukka again.
🙏❤️ Love from Scotland ❤️🙏
Just had a thought...
Like you say Chris, warranties are for manufacturing faults/ defects..
But it begs the question - Most defects are discovered within the first few days/weeks/months, so does that not make extended warranties a little redundant?
When a product becomes 2/4/6/8 yrs old, problems are more likely a wear and tear issue..
So if a component of an item 'falls off' or leaks or fails in some way,after this amount of time, how do we know if the item just suffers from wear and tear or the particular item on this occasion just isnt up to usual standards??..
We're at the mercy of the companies discretion a bit here..😉
Yes, a good point; and indeed I am going to risk a video on this. My view is that if something is shoddy it should come to light within a couple of years, and so this makes five and 10 year warranties virtually meaningless, unless something is very little used. The manufacturers get carried away, and think that there are those who will but their gear if it has a longer warranty than another brand. But really it’s marketing hype. I will indeed explore this in a video soon. CP
Thanks Chris, look forward to it 👍
Why the nasty dig at Bennett’s? What was the point of value of it?
All due to the tist over rokker jeans protection levels and slide times….
Shame it keeps coming up.
@@douglaswinton826 Ok there is debate, but to criticise so publicly another TH-cam channel trying to help us riders out is not acceptable. There are many areas where Motolegends could be called out due to their pompous belief that they know best. Unprofessional!
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Agreed that’s why I said “shame it keeps coming up”
Please don’t shoot the messenger.
@@idontwantahandle12345I have to say our man Chris in this video is not a character to warm to. Knowledgeable - but knows it. That’s not a good combination.
I bought some gloves, jeans and a Scott waterproof jacket and trousers from them about 5 years ago. It wasn’t a warming experience and I felt like a kid being told he’d been wearing the wrong gear for a lifetime.
They must have been very good at their put downs as I’ve never been back. Infinity Motorcycles at Southampton and Farnborough have benefited hugely from MotoLegends attitude and watching these videos has done nothing to convince me I should return to ML to buy again.
Forgive my rant, not directed at the commenter. It’s such a shame, these videos are informative but it’s just like standing in front of an unhappy headmaster. Never a good feeling.
@@PhilbyFavourites I too have visited several times. Being talked down to as if I am some idiot that has never ridden I bike before means I purchased elsewhere. ML, remember you are just a clothing store for motorcyclists… not the world authorities.
Excellent presentation / content , liked a subscribed hope to purchase from you soon .
I may well be wrong but I thought that the basic suit scuff protection allows up to 9 secounds on the tarmac. So all good suits should give a fair degree of safety. Am I wrong.
Yes. Don’t know where that came from. Some stuff will look after your skin at 20 mph; other stuff at much higher speeds. But then, as I said, there’s the armour; and in many ways the armour is more important than the abrasion resistance of the outer fabric. CC
@@Motolegends BUT from a cost perspective I then need a new NIVALA - and they do not repair, if I buy a Stadler, after a slide only minor damage which will be repaired in Germany for minor costs. To sum it up: better venting system, better protection, cheaper repair instead of new buying, 10 yrs waranty for nearly the same price - ok excluding the down x (I am talking about the treasure/free sports pro.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It is very informative and common sense is the key.
Ride safe
I have had a Rukka jacket and pants for about 8 years,
Fantastic.
I have just bought a lighter Rukka jacket this week.
I have a pair of Rukka over mitts I have had over, I would say 30 years
Fantastic.
But gloves a different story
Very disappointing
I called into a very well known motocycle clothing store, on my way from the north West to Suffolk.
I dropped my helmet, and decided to purchase a new one,
I called into the store i purchased a new expensive helmet.
And decided I would treat myself to a pair of Rukka gloves to go with my Rukka jacket and trousers.
The first time it rained my gloves started leaking.
I called the store.
They asked me if I had the receipt
I can't just find it because I'm in the middle of moving house,
But I have my bank statement.
That's no good was the reply.
So I emailed Rukka in Finland
I expanded my situation, They said the same.
So I offered to send my gloves at my own expense to Finland.
They can see that they are new,
If they think I'm trying it on, then they can keep the gloves,
I was told not to send the gloves to Finland.
So if you keep your receipts just hope that the ink of your receipts don't fade.
This may sound as though I’m stirring, but that sounds like bollocks. If you can prove that you paid for the gloves, that should be enough. It would be with us, although of course with us every order would go on the system with a customer’s details. But here’s the thing; Rukka’s gloves are guaranteed for life for waterproofing by Gore, so you shouldn’t have a problem. Send the gloves to Gore. CP
Funny no comments.
Funny, no comments
Chris, Chap in the Cap. Love your videos. But, every time you mispronounce KLIM, it stands out to me. KLIM is pronounced like “clime” as in climate. I expect you have gotten this feedback before. Here’s a video from KLIM where the company founders pronounce the name of their firm correctly. th-cam.com/video/tbSbgCDsc3s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ak7i5Ygzq2_o1Ri3 Sorry to be picky, but I am sure credibility is important to Motolegends and pronouncing the name of one of your key product lines correctly can only be a good thing. Keith
What about the 'Stadler' gear?
You have to actually watch the video before commenting on it! CP
if too hot i just take the internals out.if in spain i wear my hot summer gear
@buyaqub Below is spot on. Especially if you ride in a group in the UK as I do, when the whether changes, and believe me it changes a lot, you cannot constantly stop and put on weatherproofs, for then take them off again, when the weather inevitably changes again.... In the UK, if you ride all year-round, Rukka laminated is probably the best choice. You could probably wear it eight/nine months of the year
Thanks for telling me the Stadler you sold me doesn't work LOL
We haven’t really done the one that doesn’t work. We did do one style for a few months that we were concerned about, but because we didn’t like it we sent 100 jackets back to Germany. If you’ve got the Supervent, you’re fine. The model that didn’t work as well for us, but that we offered for a few months, was called the Treasure Pro. But I suppose my point would be that if that suit works for you, then fine. CP
I’m so confused
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Great informative videos, but please stop saying’Chap in the cap’ I cringe every time I hear it. Apart from that brilliant
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