Deer Shot Placement | Where To Aim For Broadside, Quartering & Elevated Shots

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  • Shot placement on a whitetail deer can make the difference in a good clean ethical harvest or wounding a deer and potentially losing it. What a lot of hunters don't study up on is deer anatomy to know exactly where to place a shot in different scenarios. QDMA Director Of Conservation Kip Adams uses a 3D anatomically correct form of a whitetail deer's vitals to walk you through broadside, quartering and elevated shots for proper placements on deer.

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  • @willbiggers5566
    @willbiggers5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +718

    Every hunter should watch this at least once a year right before their season. Could be the difference between 40 yard blood trail and losing the animal

  • @theruralrenegade8911
    @theruralrenegade8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That is generally where I have been putting rounds and have never had to track a deer, quartering towards or away is also quite easy of you know the anatomy. This video is very helpful.

  • @deebo9675
    @deebo9675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice video. nice job explaining the vitals this is what all hunters should watch at the beginning of the season just for a reference ..keep on sharing the knowledge

  • @armenianply
    @armenianply 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for educating us sir. Love this video.

  • @chandlersmith7246
    @chandlersmith7246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +805

    I’m not going to lie, at first I was like “I know where to shoot a deer”. Now I’m glad I clicked on it because it was a really helpful video

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Glad it helped!

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  • @nathantidwell3197
    @nathantidwell3197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    I shot my first buck yesterday in that spot and he didn’t go 10 yards. This info helps me understand where everything is at

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Very cool! Congrats on your first buck!

    • @nathantidwell3197
      @nathantidwell3197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Whitetail_Properties thanks sir keep doing what you do!

    • @dcoutdoors7032
      @dcoutdoors7032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s awesome! Congrats, I got my first buck about a week ago!

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      @@dcoutdoors7032 thanks man have a nice night

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      @@dcoutdoors7032 Congrats on your fist buck!

  • @HardRockMiner
    @HardRockMiner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Shot my biggest buck last year and used a video like this to practice shot placement. I knew it was a good shot when I saw it hit. He walked 15' and fell over. When I got him broken down and finally got to his heart, it was proud to see that my arrow went straight thru the middle of his heart. Videos like this are invaluable to a good hunter.

    • @Alexonfire1
      @Alexonfire1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice job and congrats

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    @walpolescrew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Sage advice. More hunters should drop their egos and watch this.

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      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We're always trying to help all stages of hunters!

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  • @blaws6684
    @blaws6684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    The lethal vitals in an average whitetail is the size of a soccer ball. If you place your shot anywhere that will “deflate that ball” you will harvest that deer. This concept falls in line well with this video. I’ve taught both for 25 years with much satisfaction. No one ever complained afterwards.
    Remember to think in 3D no matter what angle presents. But avoid frontal shots for obvious reasons. .

    • @jonquirk9582
      @jonquirk9582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you figure that? A deers lungs are larger than a dinner plate, as long as you puncture both lungs, that's a dead deer. Even if you miss the heart

  • @kaidencombrink4546
    @kaidencombrink4546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    African hunters and guides have been saying this for centuries about African antelope “straight up the front leg, centre of body”, I’ve always wondered how Cervidae had a heart rear of the “elbow crease” now I finally know that was never the case thank you this is very informative.

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My PH always said a third of the way up the front leg for the perfect shot, my daughter has dropped 5 African animals with 5 shots, using that advice, using either a 270 or 308 , African animals internals are different from our animals , but still good advice

    • @Abiti3131
      @Abiti3131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I am African hunter I agree, now hunting in beautiful Colordo.

    • @davidthompson1529
      @davidthompson1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Abiti3131 Best of luck hunting. Stay safe.

    • @timothyrothrock4173
      @timothyrothrock4173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree with arrow placement. But alot of
      times because deer squat from a voluntary reflex from the sound of a bow snap your hit could be too high. I aim for the squat especially if I am in a tree.

  • @mohawksniper79
    @mohawksniper79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That's why in a camp with a few guy/girls the new guy/girl should help clean the deer even if they didn't shoot it they can see where everything is located and how big it is.
    🤠👍

  • @mikemellon80
    @mikemellon80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Best demonstration I’ve seen. Very helpful to new and seasons hunters

    • @bassbucksandmore987
      @bassbucksandmore987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m mid new mid seasoned and this is amazing I never knew that a deers front leg was like that

  • @Country4life09
    @Country4life09 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You sir are a great teacher i have Watched this video every year since it was posted thank you

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We love to hear that, thank you! Glad it continues to help! Good luck this season!

  • @kordak197
    @kordak197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good to know all my hours of playing theHunter: Call of the Wild has pre-prepared me for this video XD
    Hopefully one day I'll be able to bag my first real buck.

  • @masterski03
    @masterski03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great video. Only thing I do different is aim a little lower with my bow just to account for deer jumping string. If he doesn’t jump it is a heart shot if he does jump it is double lung.

  • @VilRuS
    @VilRuS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is a great video. I remember a few years ago when I made the decision to research the anatomy of deer and being surprised at how it was different than I thought. It made me a better, more ethical hunter. And thank you so much for going over shot angles. I’m amazed sometimes at how many archers do not understand compensating for the angle that the deer is standing.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We appreciate it! Thank you for watching!

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. I normally aim for head or neck as a bad shot is a clean miss that doesent injure without killing as a general rule. I do this as I have a horrid track record of gut shooting even what I thought were correct placements and never knew why. This year I may try the shoulder shots again now that I have a better idea of the internals and locations.

    • @ryanrumble904
      @ryanrumble904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Colonel_Overkill or maybe try getting better with accuracy?

  • @falatoronto
    @falatoronto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Clearly explained, thank you.

  • @FFFOutdoor
    @FFFOutdoor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In Africa we talk about the Vital Triangle. If an antelope stands broadside you go up the front leg, 1/3 of the body and you hit the middle of the vitals. Something a PH needs to work hard to ensure his hunters make one shot kills. Great info in the video , FFF Approved 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @ronws2007
      @ronws2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is another youtube channel devoted to archery hunting called The Ranch Fairy and he calls it the vital v. straight down under the scalpula and 1/4 up from the bottom.

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My daughters ph had flash cards showing the perfect place to hit , it allowed her five kills with five shots, , a third up center of leg was where we shot everything

  • @Garysalunatic
    @Garysalunatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I tell new hunters to aim for the “armpit” on the far side of the deer when the deer is broadside or quartering away.

  • @gregmulfort9577
    @gregmulfort9577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Agree with what you say although as predominantly a rifle hunter, I don't want to hit the heart because I like to eat it. Aiming just behind where the leg comes up to the body I usually miss the heart and can harvest that. Also reduces some damage to the front shoulder meat. If the shot is questionable at all then might go for right where you say as you do have the most room for error.

    • @cjberan
      @cjberan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm with you on aiming there to preserve meat. But must say yes to give the best ethical kill shot the up from leg and halfway from top to bottom looks better then I had expected or known before

    • @johnbowden9578
      @johnbowden9578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe change the projectiles you're using.
      I just switched from Hornaday ELD-X to Barns TTSX. That Hornaday round blew up in a mile deer I shot at just under 200 yards. I was picking bits of lead out of the meat and that was after I cut away all the bloodshot meat.

    • @gregmulfort9577
      @gregmulfort9577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnbowden9578 that is something I may look into. I've also considered switching from lead altogether but there seems to be very few options for that.

    • @davidboehlke1880
      @davidboehlke1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregmulfort9577 y'all talking about ammo? I can't find any

    • @gregmulfort9577
      @gregmulfort9577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidboehlke1880 I have lots of ammo to last a while, but I've heard there's a shortage, which sucks. Don't know what to tell you. Keep an eye on sportsman's guide website, check daily. Stuff pops up on there but goes quickly as you'd imagine. I got 1000 of .223 there recently but you have to check often.

  • @quinnjim
    @quinnjim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The lungs are a MUCH bigger target than the heart. If you puncture both lungs, you killed it. The heart has bone around it (especially if the leg is back). Good to know the anatomy though. Great video.

  • @Guillo78
    @Guillo78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don't even live in an area for hunting i wish i was cuz that's looks fun and delicious

  • @Dfleuryoutdoors
    @Dfleuryoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I liver shot my first 3 deer trying to go behind the shoulder. My father told me to follow the front leg straight up and since then I've made perfect shots every time. I've also found that it makes shooting in low light much easier when the deer starts Blending in with its surroundings.

    • @nolixss694
      @nolixss694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that straight up the rear of the front leg or the middle of the front leg?

    • @kevinalexander6812
      @kevinalexander6812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Straight up the deer's rear. AKA the West Virginia Heart shot.

    • @xtripv108
      @xtripv108 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinalexander6812 I'm weak XD

  • @danieldelozier5800
    @danieldelozier5800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m a new bowhunter and have read a lot of articles and watched a lot of videos on where to shoot and this is by far the most helpful resource I’ve found. Thank you so much for this video. I feel much more confident now.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We love to hear that!! Best of luck to you this fall!!

  • @little1942
    @little1942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Excellent video! I’ve always known “where” to aim for and why, but I had no idea how long the spinal projections are! It’s really helpful to have that visual of the anatomy of deer when hunting. I’ll be keeping it mind this season. Thank you!

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, glad it helped! Good luck this fall!!

    • @jaredeberly9724
      @jaredeberly9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely what I thought. Imagine the heart of the deer and the angle to get to it. A shoulder shot rarely ends in a found deer with a bow

  • @basshuntet607
    @basshuntet607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    AWESOME!! I hope deer hunters old and young watch this.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen! For our sake and the deers sake!

    • @busterdog6320
      @busterdog6320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As the young I can say this has helped a lot.

  • @nicksterholland3846
    @nicksterholland3846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I shot my first deer here and he dropped and died on spot, no rolling around or suffering was needed for him.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what we like to hear! Congrats on your first deer!!

  • @doitdoitright5916
    @doitdoitright5916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Excellent presentation. I’ve bow hunted for 46 years and learned the hard way the traditional “pocket “ was not the best spot to aim. Like he says for the typical broadside shot come up the front leg (which ever one is perpendicular to the ground) if not both. The quartering shot provides the biggest area for lethal entry. The high angle shot is spot on. The only thing I would add is if a deer is keyed up versus in a relaxed state. If it’s keyed (nervous) you may want to aim at the lower 1/3, saw high speed film, a deer that’s keyed can drop close to half it’s body height in a few split seconds. Translation, 600 fps to hit a deer at 15 yards before it reacts, close to 2x the speed of a compound bow. To naked eye it looks like you shot over. They naturally drop to load their legs to spring forward.
    Happy hunting and remember you can never shoot a broad-head that’s to sharp.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing that! Good luck to you this fall!!

    • @jaredeberly9724
      @jaredeberly9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are definitely right and I came to comment that. If the deer ducks you can hit the shoulder bone. You should aim 1/3 of the way down the body, center of the heart.

  • @brycehiigel235
    @brycehiigel235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video and demonstration. Was taught to aim where you want the arrow to exit.
    I started to put duct tape on the back side of my target that was layered that would stop the arrow yet allow the tip to protrude. I would set my target quartering away and visualize the duct tape. Amazed how much I would have to move my entry point left or right to get my arrow to go through the duct tape.

    • @jeremyrobs3643
      @jeremyrobs3643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea with the duct tape.

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Aim lower 1/3 to allow for deer dropping at the sound of the bow/crossbow going off. Video after video revealing that deer react way faster to the sound of a shot than most realize. Higher hits may be lethal, but lower hits usually have a better blood trail and improve your chances of finding your animal. If you are shooting traditional archery or low poundage compound may want to aim lower 1/4th.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      We certainly agree with the fact that animals sometimes drop at the sound of the shot. But what we were trying to demonstrate was where to aim, excluding any other factors (wind, rain, animal behavior, etc.), because that is an entirely separate video. And, every situation is completely different, so trying to explain or tell someone to aim low because the animal "might" drop won't necessarily help them to learn where to aim on an animal - and could certainly be confusing to a new hunter.

    • @taylorloudenback5522
      @taylorloudenback5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean... bullets travel a lot faster than sound. So even if it did drop from the sound plus reaction time, the bullet has already arrived and done it's job.

    • @taylorloudenback5522
      @taylorloudenback5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And... I did forget that we were talking about bow hunting here... lol. Excuse my comment. 👌

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taylorloudenback5522 I have seen videos of animals reacting on long shots with big bore air rifles. They shoot about the same as light pistol loads (600 to 800 fps) so sound is getting there before the bullet arrives. They shoot fairly flat out to about 75 yards and are totally lethal with right slug set up.

    • @taylorloudenback5522
      @taylorloudenback5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kurtdog63 sound is roughly 1100-1200 fps. Heat and cold changes that and elevation. But roughly that. I was referring to rifles which are typically twice that. Lol.

  • @HalfGiant_S80
    @HalfGiant_S80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Been hunting for years, and I never would have thought of any of this. Wow, I still have a lot to learn. Great video

  • @trevorhenry1003
    @trevorhenry1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The worst feeling in the world is wounding an animal to go off and die in pain 3 or 4 miles away. Glad I clicked the video

  • @chrisboyd1408
    @chrisboyd1408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you very much for posting this excellent video. This should be required as an annual refresher for all deer hunters. We should never be too prideful to learn more and refresh our memory and techniques.

  • @theebigda
    @theebigda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always aim for right above the arm pit. I've never had to track a deer more that 30-40 yards. Most less than that. Typically my arrow punches the heart.

  • @Eiysacc
    @Eiysacc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very educational video, perfect demonstrations! Always knew to aim a little high in a stand and a little further back when there quartering away but this really shows exactly where and why with a good demonstration

  • @DustinApple
    @DustinApple 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the lungs on the model are double the size of reality. the angles explained from a stand and quartered away should be worse case scenarios. ALWAYS aim for the VITAL-V unless the angles are extreme in witch you should wait for a better angle. the lungs are the size of a sheet of paper, the heart the size of a Orange. Essentially your target is the size of a pie plate resting on top of the elbow.

    • @DaDaDo661
      @DaDaDo661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Those are inflated lungs. What you see when you gut the deer is not what their normal state

    • @AnonYMous-qi2ol
      @AnonYMous-qi2ol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DaDaDo661 yep, shoot when they inhale ; )

  • @kingrider75
    @kingrider75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can’t argue with anatomy but I believe the reasoning for bowhunters to stay back a bit from the shoulder is for fear of hitting the scapula and limiting penetration. My son did exactly that this past weekend on a big buck. We recovered the animal in a short time because he had In fact hit both lungs, but the broadhead stopped just under the skin on the other side leaving just one hole to bleed from. The blood trail was very light but the animals chest cavity was co platelet full of blood.

    • @Sapper_Rage
      @Sapper_Rage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That may be due to broadhead choice, arrow selection/tune, or the bow not properly tuned causing imperfect arrow flight. Certain broadheads will blow through bones, add a good tuned arrow and tuned bow and your chances of blowing through bone go up. Good luck and shoot straight.

    • @TsYahoo143
      @TsYahoo143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true I was always told, don't fear, get the deer

    • @cw6795
      @cw6795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad he found it. Heart shots are way overemphasized in bow hunting. Go for the lungs.

    • @jonnettesheim8930
      @jonnettesheim8930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, I took that exact shot on a 9 point buck 2 weeks ago massive Internal bleeding, arrow broke off inside the shoulder, no exit wound- thankfully I heard him crash 100 yards away and found him easy enough.
      And that was a Muzzy Trocar broadhead.

  • @jamesburke5709
    @jamesburke5709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello you done a very well job of describing the shot placements of the deer's body there now and your exactly right on too now

    • @jamesburke5709
      @jamesburke5709 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he doesn't tell you this though too now if you know exactly where to make the shot placement of the deer facing toward you you can still kill it that way too it's all in where you put your shot at just like he says here

  • @MyLonewolf25
    @MyLonewolf25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That quartering and stand is why I preach heavy arrows especially the stand one as it can be easy to hit that shoulder blade
    Complete pass through should be your goal
    Much better and shorter blood trails ;)

    • @hannahmay5461
      @hannahmay5461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've always used light arrows at 70 pounds, and they have always blown straight through the deer and usually buried halfway into the dirt on the other side, tho ive never hit bone so that may be a hard lesson to learn down the road

    • @cw6795
      @cw6795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannahmay5461 so just aim a little further back. Holes in lungs kill too.

  • @steveyd101
    @steveyd101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    shoot a heavy arrow and good fixed broadhead and you can aim for the middle of the front 1/3 of the deer. 90% chance where you aim is not where the deer will be when your arrow gets there (at least for cracked out pressured deer). Went to a 550+ gn arrow the last few years. shoulder bones might as well be rib bones.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Heavy arrows and fixed blade broad heads certainly help with penetration. But, any arrow and broad head, combined with good shot placement makes a deadly combo!

  • @jonquirk9582
    @jonquirk9582 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What's nuts to me about adrenaline and deer, is i shot a buck this past weekend with my crossbow, from about 20 feet up, followed this videos aiming point almost exactly, drilled both lungs, complete pass through of my bolt, and the buck still managed to run over 150 yards with an arrow hole through both lungs.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We're happy to hear the video was helpful! And we know, they are crazy tough animals for sure! Congrats on your buck!!

  • @microtechmachineshop
    @microtechmachineshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    blew the heart right out of my buck this year

  • @amypowell7753
    @amypowell7753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 79 dislikes are all vegetarian. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheElementWild
    @TheElementWild 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid! Cool to see everything in place.

  • @lil2.74
    @lil2.74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That area not only has more chance to hit vital organs, it has the largest arteries and airways. If you hit back in the lungs, everything gets smaller. Unfortunately that's what most people do because the industry has brain washed people into shooting large cut mechanicals. Through bad experiences with those they have learned to steer clear of those bones so they aim back. Double bad. Yep when you hit them right with a big mechanical the damage is devastating but lost deer percentages go up with them. They chop and dont cut efficient enough to penetrate well when things go wrong. I shoot to hit right in the area you explained and I shoot a B3 DESTRUKT. 9 of 9 have fell in sight since going to that broadhead. And since the broadhead is so efficient in penetration, they don't feel the hit the same as when shot with a mechanical, they don't run like thier ass is on fire. Help yourself recover more deer, shoot them where he is saying and shoot an efficient cutting broadhead and an arrow with some weight. If the arrow doesn't pass through then even more of the energy is felt because the body absorbed more shock and if he is still carrying the arrow that makes them run harder as well. The less you penetrate the less you cut, don't matter how big your cut is. A 4 blade 1 inch fixed head cuts 1 inch by 1 inch for a total of 2. A 2 inch mechanical cuts 2. The fixed cutting 11 inches deep cuts 22, the mechanical going 6 cuts 12. And he will run as hard and far as he can. The closer he stays to your stand, the odds of recovery go up.

  • @stevegermain1222
    @stevegermain1222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video nice to refresh myself yearly

  • @genekelley7579
    @genekelley7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🛑🛑 Plain and simple….Grandpap was right on White Tail Shot Placement when I first learned to hunt………
    Break the Front Shoulder on a White Tail Buck (with a rifle), you take his Heart, his Lungs, his Ability To Flee, and his “Soul”💯!!
    Words that I have used on many bucks over my “long and successful hunting career”.

  • @bmacklin1966
    @bmacklin1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just a question: if you miss "high" won't you hit the shoulder ?

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Potentially. Kip is just trying to show where to aim for quickest most effective kill possible. He intentionally left out other factors because, as hunters we know there a hundred different things that can come into play when trying to harvest an animal.

  • @benjamincrooker2533
    @benjamincrooker2533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nicely done, great educational video. I sent this to all my hunting buddy’s. 😃

  • @hanks1992
    @hanks1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1/4 away.... Aim at the far side front leg, go straight up to the correct height and let it fly.

    • @milboltnut
      @milboltnut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      if 1/4 ing away, then angled behind the rib cage towards the front leg..... you are then plowing through the vitals into the heart.

    • @charlesprater979
      @charlesprater979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have put a bunch of 'em on the ground with this type shot!!! Like it better than broadside!!

  • @conner5627
    @conner5627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad always said bust through the shoulders bc of its not just bone. This was 20 years ago when all you seen on TV was behind the shoulder but with a rifle you go through that front shoulders you'll track alot less deer. I know its harder with a bow but for a rifle go directly in the middle of the shoulder. TV always had me questioning him till about 14 years ago when I was 13 and started being able to put my shots exactly where I was aiming bc from 7-12 I always rushed shots and didn't squeeze the trigger but pulled it an every deer I've hit in the middle of the shoulder since then they haven't went more than 10 yards. Usually drop on its tracks even a 200lb 8 year old buck didn't even go anywhere. Only thing that did run was the smalleT cull buck I killed at 150 he took one hop out the power line good plot into brush and didn't go another step. Avg weight is usually 175 of what I'll shoot and 99% didn't move

  • @adamchicoski5284
    @adamchicoski5284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first deer, I hit in the heart, and it split the heart into three

  • @ec9697
    @ec9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Follow the crease behind the front leg..aim for the top of it..make sure the angle is good.broadside or quartering away..not quartering to..you’re welcome lol

  • @TheEverLovingOutdoors
    @TheEverLovingOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I shot 159” buck there in the hot spot with a bow. Quartering to on a steep incline. Arrow went through just about everything and the deer Went 10’

  • @Jambo29709
    @Jambo29709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't want to split hairs but there are ribs... Zwickey broadheads always pass all the way through. Now they make 100 grain 2 edge.

  • @marcg611
    @marcg611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last week shot a buck from tree saddle with a crossbow that was slightly quartering towards, I took that higher shoulder shot due to angle, got both lungs but the exit was farther back and blasted out waxy rib fat sealing the exit wound. Literally zero blood trail but luckily "didn't go 20". I patterned and found it very dense brush. Lesson learned the higher shot entrance will not bleed well if not a good exit. 👍

  • @okielegendoutdoors
    @okielegendoutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This helps a lot! Nice video!

  • @troboboulware8518
    @troboboulware8518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wish I'd watched this 4 yrs ago! Your hitting a spine-projection-piece-with-a-bullet-scenario is exactly what happened to me.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We've seen it happen many times!

    • @troboboulware8518
      @troboboulware8518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Whitetail_Properties i bet! I dropped a buck i was after all fall. 170ish. Dropped him. Calked my wife, called my bro. 4 minutes had gone by, got up and ran off. Brother got him w/ bow the next yr & scored 184

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@troboboulware8518 That's a tough one to swallow, at least the deer survived and your brother was able to harvest him the next year.

    • @troboboulware8518
      @troboboulware8518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Whitetail_Properties yes it worked out in the end!

  • @matthewbunger6115
    @matthewbunger6115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one critique I believe wasn't explained thoroughly. When you are in a stand shooting down with that much angle, you wouldn't want to aim straight up that front leg. You risk hitting the scapula and not punching through. Ive lost a handful of deer from that. For that shot you would want to aim behind the shoulder, as he demonstrated

  • @MTMILITIAMAN7.62
    @MTMILITIAMAN7.62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't archery hunt. I just use a rifle. From a rifle hunter's perspective, there is also an advantage to aiming a little higher still for the high shoulder shot. A high powered rifle round can easily break both shoulders and get both lungs, putting the deer on the ground in its tracks. A high velocity rifle round will often have enough shock to break the back as well, which is obviously extremely traumatic. The animal goes nowhere and is in shock almost as fast as it hits the ground. On quartering shots, I will aim at the offside leg on quartering away shots and aim at point of should towards last offside rib on quartering towards or forwards shots. You might lose a little meat busting up the shoulders, but it is worth it for peace of mind knowing you will recovering the animal right where you shot it, especially when hunting larger, more tenacious game like elk.This is also why it is important to bring enough gun with enough bullet. Elk aren't bullet proof, but you want something big enough to bust up both shoulder blades so you limit their ability to run a quarter mile down into the thick shit before they die. An elk can go a long ways on its last breath with no lungs and a blood stream full of adrenaline.

  • @davidregan9872
    @davidregan9872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is funny is while watching this 2 Blacktail spikes ran through my yard. 1 had velvet, and the other didn't!

  • @davidc8560
    @davidc8560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hmmm. I've been hunting for a few years and didn't realize the heart was so far back and exposed while broadside. I always double-lung my deer because I put my arrow right behind the leg. I hate to mess with what works for me, but I might give this a shot.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Double lung is a great shot, but, there is more room closer to the brisket than most realize.

  • @blindboyjonny
    @blindboyjonny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done. Basically just shoot the basketball or volleyball that’s in between the shoulder blades. Whether from the back forward or the top down. Shoot the center of the volleyball.

  • @billkerr1704
    @billkerr1704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 years ago i shot an buck in the hart jumped straight up like an dam rocket and fell over ...done now I try for the spot all the time

  • @rogerramjet7567
    @rogerramjet7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Very helpful.

  • @axobreil
    @axobreil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man, I have been hunting for 2 decades. I am 32 now and this video just taught me some vital information. Particularly how to divide the body. Thank you @Whitetail Properties

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s awesome, we love to hear it!! Thanks for watching, glad we could help!

  • @robertsharp1214
    @robertsharp1214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great intel friend,,!!! 👍

  • @jimmydikinz
    @jimmydikinz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Will you do one for Antifa and BLM?

  • @mikeguy9668
    @mikeguy9668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its all about the animal dying quickly. We all want little to no suffering. The deer will feed our family and we're eternally grateful to the creatures that die so that we don't have to

  • @michaelnovack2217
    @michaelnovack2217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was one of the most useful hunting videos I've ever watched. Thank you for this counterintuitive anatomy lesson.

  • @jeffreymoulton207
    @jeffreymoulton207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched this video right before my first bow season opened this year and fully attribute my success to it. I would have shot too far forward otherwise. Instead I had a 22yrd shot quartering away right to left. Clean double lung shot, he ran 30ft and was done. Thank you for the great content.

  • @yukonrott
    @yukonrott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn...been hearing for yrs just above and behind the shoulder would be a long shot... 1st time hunting in 2 weeks in over 10 yrs .. counting the days...

  • @Chalz108
    @Chalz108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No one ever taught me any of this. All I heard was aim behind the shoulder. This is excellent information.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are glad you found it helpful! Share it with some buddies that could learn a thing or two!

  • @robteaster2446
    @robteaster2446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video with important info. Definitely helpful in making ethical kills.

  • @syzionaurifex5383
    @syzionaurifex5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Behind the arm, below the shoulder. If you miss the heart you’ll hit the lung.

  • @seatedliberty
    @seatedliberty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic presentation- I wish it existed for African plains game as well.

    • @Sapper_Rage
      @Sapper_Rage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's an African guide in the comments recommending this, hope that helps. Read some of the comments and you never know what you'll learn. Good luck, shoot straight!

  • @joddiekirkendoll9652
    @joddiekirkendoll9652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my first deer kill was with my 30-30 i was useing polymer tips and its iron sights and i was like 10 and hit a deer right in the spinal cord and it dropped in its tracks

  • @lyingcat9022
    @lyingcat9022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t they almost always hear the bow string and drop down a hand or two? Loading their legs to bound away? So doesn’t aiming lower give you a better chance at a dead center heart/lung shot?

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They do usually hear the bow. But we have seen many instances where they do not move at all. Every situation is different. If the deer is edgy before the shot aiming a touch low is t a bad idea. Especially at longer yardages. But you just never know.

    • @lyingcat9022
      @lyingcat9022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Whitetail_Properties tricky tricky… thanks for the knowledge :)

  • @yannijulian6480
    @yannijulian6480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By far best demonstration I have seen

  • @BucksCorner101
    @BucksCorner101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm hoping to get out for my very first season this year. Thank you so much for having these videos. Sure, my friends who've hunted for years say "Just hit it here." But to visually see the angle of approach makes me very grateful. Thank you so much!

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great to hear from a new hunter getting out in the woods!! We are glad you found the video helpful, maybe share it with your friends and they may learn a thing or two! Lol. Good luck this season!

  • @untilvalhalla7854
    @untilvalhalla7854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hit and dropped a deer in it’s tracks once. While I was watching it, it got up and ran away. Very little blood. It looked very strong running away. I assume I hit it on one of the spinal projections. I learned a hard lesson about shot placement that day.

  • @francofunicello6568
    @francofunicello6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the arrow goes through the bottom of the deer, organs can easily plug up the hole and leave no blood trail.

  • @nicmeador8866
    @nicmeador8866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And people called ranch fairy nuts for shooting the vital "V"!

  • @jperiodchapin
    @jperiodchapin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joey Biden says deers wear Kevlar vests, please let me know the shot placement when the deer is up-armored.

  • @NicOfTime420
    @NicOfTime420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually wanna start bow hunting myself and this just helps me get that money shot on a big buck this fall so thank you for the help I’ve learned something new

    • @mdslax0172
      @mdslax0172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yeah! Now you just have to see if you can do it when buck fever kicks in 😉

    • @NicOfTime420
      @NicOfTime420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdslax0172 yeah I know hope I don’t freeze up

  • @DurgenzBallPeh
    @DurgenzBallPeh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using this for a reference for when I play Way Of The Hunter game

  • @mikehenthorn976
    @mikehenthorn976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OUTSTANDING!! Great video, thanks

  • @ajnorman9885
    @ajnorman9885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video! It takes an expert to make something like this simple! Thank a Ton!

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful! Kip is very knowledgeable and does a great job of explaining!

  • @scottpaulsen2649
    @scottpaulsen2649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight up the leg lower one 3rd not halfway that crowds the scapula to much

  • @henrypatterson7826
    @henrypatterson7826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much. I was looking for this video!

  • @jeffscuderi8662
    @jeffscuderi8662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right behind shoulder hand length up in ribs no meat loss easy butchering

  • @cw6795
    @cw6795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only problems I have with this video is telling people to aim halfway up the body and suggesting that people focus too much on the heart. By his own example of holding those arrows at around the 3:00 mark he showed that he was over the heart and was leaving ALOT of lung underneath the horizontal arrow. Also if you aim too far forward and don't give yourself enough margin for error, we get those forward shots that can result in a lost deer. We've all seen them on TV or have been a part of a search for one. Screw the heart. Emphasis on the heart is way overblown and has almost become a braggart thing and way overemphasized by such people and media as the cool thing to do. Too many people want to put DRT on their facebook page. I have seen way too many lost animals because of that need to aim for the heart. All that happens is you get a lost deer that travels or one with a very sore brisket. Yes, an animal needs a heart to live but if you take out the lungs they won't survive either and the lungs are a bigger target. Now that being said, if you manage to hit the heart, that's great. The problem with archery is it is much easier in my view to pull off target on release and an arrow does not give near as much terminal damage to surrounding tissue on impact or practically none. The only thing damaged is what the broadhead hits. With a rifle you have a bit more leeway. Even African hunters get tunnel vision on this but I can tell you that I got back last month from a 10 day hunt in Africa and killed 13 animals with mainly lung shots. I was using a rifle but still, they cannot live without lungs. Even PH's will say that their clients focus way too much on the heart. Americans will tell you that you need to study the anatomy of PG animals before you go but I can tell you that with a couple of exceptions, there is no need if you go for the solid lung shot and use a good bullet. I did just like I do in the states. Aim up the back of the leg and 1/3 to 1/2 way up the body. Give up the baseball sized object for the pie plate sized object or even bigger depending on the species.
    I have always and will always aim and instruct others to follow up tight to the back of the leg and aim 1/3 of the way up. If you hit a touch low you still hit the lungs, if you hit a touch high, even up to 1/2 way you still hit the lungs, hit a touch forward you hit the heart as well, hit a touch back and you still hit the lungs and you still have a good possibility for a good blood trail. Guess what happens on impact. You WILL hit the lungs and hopefully you will also hit the back of the heart. The other problem with high hits can be a lack of blood trail. Hitting a touch lower will up your odds of a good trail.
    The main thing I would tell people is to look at a guide like this and study it as well as study real animals and how the location of the leg to the vitals changes as they walk and stand but don't focus too much on it and do not focus too much on that heart. If you take out the lungs you will kill that animal.
    But remember, no matter how good you know the anatomy, it won't make up for accurate and flinch free shooting.

  • @rodneyharrison7107
    @rodneyharrison7107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this bow hunters got worry about deer jumping the string they move down and then the shot is to high.

  • @willyvanilly
    @willyvanilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, this is my first year for archery and am looking to demolish the top of the heart. Very helpful 👍👍👍

  • @kwil5379
    @kwil5379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Double Lung is the way to go, so you can eat the best part of the deer.....The Heart!

    • @marcg611
      @marcg611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just ate my buck deer heart last night! 😋 Sauteed onions and garlic in lots of butter, then add cook till med rare..

    • @wop182
      @wop182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. And you don't mess up any other meat in that front quarter

  • @goneflying140
    @goneflying140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When bow hunting, I love to send it right through the ribs. The 2" cut from my broadheads cause massive bleeding and they never go far. For gun season, I like to put it right above the front leg as described at the start of the video. Thes have worked well for me.

  • @bryanmcdermott4204
    @bryanmcdermott4204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best video I've ever seen on the subject, and I'm old.

  • @clintjohnson695
    @clintjohnson695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right behind the shoulder has done great for me never had to track a deer.

  • @oHqn
    @oHqn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So funny story, me and my friend recently when hunting I shot a buck and so did he but I didn’t have enough ammo to sight my 06 in so it ended up being 6 inches off at 300 yards, and he forgot in the field so he went to take a shot right in that spot an accident shot it straight through its neck dropping it instantly, so if you are wanting to eat the heart of whatever your shooting then I would recommend behind shoulder or neck which is a much harder shot but basically the same if not better then shooting the heart out.

  • @TheKittyClink
    @TheKittyClink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dint hunt at all but I was thinking about getting into it after my move to utah.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are tons of great hunting opportunities out west! You should totally take advantage of them!!