Deer Hunting MYTHS And FACTS!! | Moon Phases | Peeing In The Woods | Weather

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  • Moon phases, peeing in the woods and weather conditions are things almost all deer hunters have heard or talked about. Wildlife Biologist and QDMA Director Of Conservation Kip Adams debunks a few deer hunting myths and provides some facts about deer movement and behavior to help your hunting strategies this fall!
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ความคิดเห็น • 516

  • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
    @georgesakellaropoulos8162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    A gentle, steady rain, accompanied by a moderate, constant breeze creates some of the finest deer hunting conditions I know, especially for still hunting.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen to that!

    • @Loukas81
      @Loukas81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%

    • @juliannamcgill7626
      @juliannamcgill7626 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only way to get a good blacktail, no rut hunts here🤣...I do renew my faith making trips back in rut with my camera😆

    • @hillbilly4christ638
      @hillbilly4christ638 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen the biggest weariest bucks during these conditions. It can be uncomfortable if you are in the open but the conditions are in your favor. The biggest ones will have their noses to the ground trying to pick up scent.

  • @BornN2Grave1
    @BornN2Grave1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    On heavily pressured public land in SE PA, I use my own bottled urine in every mock scrape I make. And have the trail cam videos and photos to prove it attracts bucks of all ages. I even pour it on the licking branch and they lick and eat the leaves. Some bucks show up within hours of when I made the scrape. Letting your urine sit in an open bottle for a week turns it darker and makes it smell musky like buck urine. I'm convinced they smell testosterone and have no idea its human.

  • @tmac3147
    @tmac3147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Whoever said the 30/30 isn’t a good gun for deer hunting either 1 can’t aim 2 was born year 2000 up

    • @kenseymour5152
      @kenseymour5152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      30/30 is a great gun for deer hunting in my opinion

    • @tmac3147
      @tmac3147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s actually more than enough if a 243 will take one down

    • @outbackcountry512
      @outbackcountry512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Old school calibers 30-30 , 303 British ,6.5x55 Sweedish , just name a few along with 30-06 these older calibers have harvested more game than all the fancy WSM OR WSSM calibers combined . I first hunted with .410 for my first buck , used 30-30 and 303 in my early yrs , went to 6.5x 55 shot 30-06 for decades now back to 6.5x55 sweede these cartridges are plenty to harvest white tails
      EDIT - Old school guns still rule as well , no plastic , all metal and wood , Mauser Action is dear to my heart , Damm reliable , I currently hunt with a Commercially made Mauser Action rifle with monte carlo stock all wood and steel in 6.5x55 , just something about a well crafted rifle on budget price , Check out Zastava Rifles won't be disapointed

    • @mr.fish1233
      @mr.fish1233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tmac3147 you’re completely right 4 seasons a goa I dropped a 165 3/8” bucks with my 243

    • @bobbyd4400
      @bobbyd4400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I took a moce 3 point blacktailed buck at 30 yards with the ol dirty thirty. He dropped right in his tracks range and shot placment 30 30 will take 🐻 dont under estimate

  • @danielparker8189
    @danielparker8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    “Give a man a fish, he can eat for a day; teach a man to fish, he’ll go broke.” - Rut Daniels, the legend

    • @gogitr8904
      @gogitr8904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

    • @rogerjames2729
      @rogerjames2729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts

    • @mikeself4969
      @mikeself4969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      true nowadays

    • @JA-rc4uy
      @JA-rc4uy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣 So true...

    • @jackmorris7677
      @jackmorris7677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Teach a man to fish he’ll never be hungry, shoot a carp with a bow you’ll starve “ also from Rut😂

  • @mikemacinnes6120
    @mikemacinnes6120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy knows his shit! Can watch for hours. Not cocky just giving you facts Thanks

  • @seanbalch7563
    @seanbalch7563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I enjoy hearing facts based on research. I’ve always disbelieved the moon phase junk, hunted the rain and pee out of my stand. I’ve also had numerous bucks/does under my stand scent checking my urine. Not once have they appeared nervous or busted me due to urine. Thanks Kip for stating what the research shows.

    • @Yettiattack
      @Yettiattack ปีที่แล้ว

      Urine turns into ammonia

    • @Iamthatguy01
      @Iamthatguy01 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was busted by two does as I was peeing in a bottle while in my tree stand. I never saw them, but they smelled me pretty quickly. SHHHEEW! SHHHEEW! And they were gone.

    • @theodoreB8061
      @theodoreB8061 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have killed a few does within minutes of peeing from my Climber stand.. not a big issue.. just don't be seen peeing (movement)...lol

  • @wdtaut5650
    @wdtaut5650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    4:35 Fred Trost demonstrated, more than 25 years ago, that deer, including bucks, will investigate human urine the same way they check the urine of other deer.

  • @lawrencebarnes6893
    @lawrencebarnes6893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    When I shop for a hunting scent, I always look for New Car Smell. Deer love it.

    • @gunners4129
      @gunners4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clever.

    • @cindyholder8003
      @cindyholder8003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gunners4129 [[[[[[[

    • @gunners4129
      @gunners4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have no idea what that means

    • @lawrencebarnes6893
      @lawrencebarnes6893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gunners4129 He said it, right in the video. Maybe watch the video?

    • @gunners4129
      @gunners4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said "[[[[[[[" ?

  • @confucius2616
    @confucius2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There’s zero human scent in our urine. There is testosterone though so they can detect that. I’ve had bucks come running in after I peed out of a tree. Been bow hunting 48 years and watched people pee in baggies. I just laugh to myself

  • @DEADKING624
    @DEADKING624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    When is the best time to deer 🦌 hunt...whenever you can go is the best time!

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Amen to that!

    • @zzz7zzz9
      @zzz7zzz9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Precisely. As long as one is in the woods, they have a chance. Guarantee you'll have zero success sitting at home. for some reason hunters are obsessed with highest odds days, etc. Just relax and get out there and enjoy the experiences. Deer are killed at all hours of the day, in all weather types, at all times of the season.

    • @rewadena4371
      @rewadena4371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Um... Any day that ends in y!!

    • @DoctorSess
      @DoctorSess 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zzz7zzz9 yeah except all the deer in my woods wait until whatever time I’m not out there

    • @frankberkbigler1621
      @frankberkbigler1621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoctorSess that’s the same deal for me

  • @jeffreyhorton8297
    @jeffreyhorton8297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have been a huge fisherman and hunter for a long time. I have kept a journal log of certain moon phases when I have caught a really large bass or killed a nice buck.I rarely see any deer after a full moon no matter what the weather conditions are. More than 75% of the time it was during a new moon or a small crescent moon and a few during the half-moon phase. It could just be a coincidence; however, I believe fronts definitely impact movement the most. This past year I killed a big 8 point during a new moon in November. It had been in the 60s all week and dropped to the high 30s that weekend. I saw 7 deer before I harvested the 8. I enjoy hearing different experiences and opinions.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We do too! Thank you for sharing what you have experienced in your time in the woods!

    • @williamcroft9911
      @williamcroft9911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dark NIGHTS!!

    • @nativestone1577
      @nativestone1577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Deep sea fishing is terrible on the new moon phases. Was told by a captain of 60 years and 3rd generation fisherman. I also have fished enough to see that new moon equaled shity fishing.
      For cod and haddock off of Gloucester, Massachusetts. Interesting stuff. Thanks for your information.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A cold front definitely gets them moving.

  • @natetruth6828
    @natetruth6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A all day rain has always been my favorite time to hunt

  • @f2foutdoors
    @f2foutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have peed in scraps for over 25 years. Deer scrape it out. Best part is I never have to put the lid down.

  • @ruthless4645
    @ruthless4645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Biggest buck I ever shot was right after I had a leak and then lite up a smoke. Deer in farm areas see and smell humans/machinery (farmers) all the time and become accustom to it. If a farmer is working a 200 acre field and he has to take a leak he aint driving the tractor all the way back up to the house then back out again LOL.

  • @letsgobrandon7297
    @letsgobrandon7297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forget about Penn State, I researched it myself, I’m big on being scent free but urine won’t bother deer and could attract them. I just got done peeing one time after rattling, a buck came and the wind changed so he was downwind but I still got em with a bow on the ground.
    100% coyotes are attracted to human pee. I went coyote hunting before with my friend, before we went into the woods we both urinated next to my car and when we came back there were coyote tracks going all around my car literally 1 foot away circling.
    Another thing I noticed through the years, I mostly hunt off the ground so when I get to say a big tree I clear a spot all the way around the tree from leafs and sticks incase I have to move around one side when a deer is coming. What I noticed is if I go back to that tree the next day there are deer tracks all over the bare spot I cleared. More than likely it’s due to deer having easy access to the soil. At first I was thinking it might be my cover spray (which it could) or salt coming off my body but the salt guess can’t be correct so it definitely has to do with getting at the soil. So a good tip is to clear small 3x3 ft soil patches by your stand. Not only will deer be attracted to it but it also acts as a cover scent because the smell of the soil is stronger than the smells of leafs and so on so it acts as a natural cover scent. But still got to be scent free unless you know exactly the trail the deer will take and your downwind...but that rarely happens where I hunt, deer use trails but if your calling or it’s the rut those buck can come from any direction and usually will if the area has any hunting pressure the buck will circle downwind.
    Reason I say forget about Penn State is because they do research on deer that have zero hunting pressure so test can be false

  • @jimflys2
    @jimflys2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My second year hunting I peed early in the morning and then moved further back into some pines. About 60 yards from my pee. In an hour, 2 doe walked right up to that area. I got a mature 7 year old doe that the DNR aged for me by cutting too see the teeth. Maybe bucks are different, but old bladders don't make for a comfortable hunt unless you empty them.

  • @Intimidator82
    @Intimidator82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I knew it!! I've been peeing in scrapes for years and have seen an increase in buck activity at the scrape. I think they come back more often trying to find the "other deer" that keeps peeing in his scrape. Thank you for this info, I'm going to go hunting tonight in the rain and give it a whirl

    • @lvanzant3074
      @lvanzant3074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's how I start all my mock scrapes.

    • @schylerstone2320
      @schylerstone2320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I started pissing in the woods making mocks and we had three rubs on trees shortly after

    • @mastercly4031
      @mastercly4031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@schylerstone2320 ....I had to relieve myself the one morning during the rut and my boyfriend said go in that scrape. I did and no lie.... two mature bucks came strolling in around 7am and checked it out... he tagged the second buck. I was amazed !

    • @schylerstone2320
      @schylerstone2320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mastercly4031 i believe it 😉

    • @schylerstone2320
      @schylerstone2320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mastercly4031 prolly wishing he was there when u peed lol

  • @jdorney70
    @jdorney70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Opening day for crossbow in Maine tomorrow. Can't wait to take a big ol pee from my stand. 🤣 Have a great season everyone.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!! Pee straight.. we mean.. shoot straight!! Good luck!

  • @jusnuts1443
    @jusnuts1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I've peed in the woods less than 30 yards from where I was sitting. I've had deer come up to the spot 30 minutes later, sniff and continue on past me within shooting distance. I must say that it's usually does. But I'm equal opportunity. I'll take a big doe every time. Antlers are pretty, but don't make good stew.

    • @atthebrink74
      @atthebrink74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They might not make good stew but you sure can stir the pot with them.

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@atthebrink74 A big spoon works better. I still have my first buck's rack hanging out in the garage. A basket six point. Very nice hat rack. I hauled that bad boy home in 1986. The winter months were quite enjoyable. My Granny cooked up deer steaks, chicken fried and smothered in onions, as often as I asked. Funny, she knew how to cook venison, but didn't like eating venison.

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MICHAEL York Tough too. As they say in my part of the country, "Tougher-n-Turkey lips."

    • @luketilley9137
      @luketilley9137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No they don't. Antlers are as tough as Woodpecker lips!😎👍🤠

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@luketilley9137 Chicken fried deer steak on my plate smothered in fried onions and mushrooms with mashed taters, topped with gravy, and green beans out of the garden is a most appealing sight to behold. And most pleasing to the taste buds! Make a person get religion quick! Can I hear an "Amen"??

  • @clayton203
    @clayton203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Always hunt the wind,,and don’t watch hunting shows,,they are hunting deer in a pen

    • @Vanwolfstein
      @Vanwolfstein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Penn state

    • @ForestxWalker06
      @ForestxWalker06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts !

    • @jusnuts1443
      @jusnuts1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really don't take much account about that moon phase stuff either. Being at the right place at the right time...
      AND good old fashion LUCK! Luck has filled my freezer quite a few times! I'd rather be lucky than good!

    • @landonscott3784
      @landonscott3784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I only watch meateater best legit hunting show

    • @austin2432009
      @austin2432009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very few shows aired are behind a high fence. Most of them all deal with the same problems we do as far as neighbors, and trying to hold deer on there property. The accusation that all hunting shows are high fence, is entirely inaccurate and typically made by jealous people. Were all hunters, regardless of the hunting situation, Grow up.

  • @mattd8411
    @mattd8411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If that doe is hot it don't matter if its hot cold, wet, dry, full moon or whatever that bucks ready lol . Daylight to dark if you can set that long helps. Thanks for your video buddy be safe.

  • @stevenmiller7267
    @stevenmiller7267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you sir... I peed 3 times today... you make me feel TOMARROW IS MY DAY LOL

  • @mikerhodes3563
    @mikerhodes3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I regularly make mock scrapes by urinating in them -making sure that there is a licking branch or some sort of suspended vine or small limber limb-90 per cent of the time when i check a couple weeks later you can see that there has been activity

  • @notsoaveragejoeoutdoors9475
    @notsoaveragejoeoutdoors9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’ve hunted for 30 yrs and it has always held true in my experience that the three days before the moon becomes full and the three days after a full moon I have seen a lot more deer than any other time

    • @patricksalazar7474
      @patricksalazar7474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup moon sycle has always played a roll .maybe he can tag and study wild animals not fenced-in ones

    • @notsoaveragejoeoutdoors9475
      @notsoaveragejoeoutdoors9475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patricksalazar7474 amen brother

    • @TomOnTheRun
      @TomOnTheRun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anecdotal I say. Science dispels these myths. Believe what makes you confident. Lot's of overkill when it comes to hunting. I have coughed in the woods and 5 minutes later a deer pulls up and I'm on public land. Explain that.

    • @masato3981
      @masato3981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomOnTheRun Science can only confirm what's measured before it. Age-old hunting traditions hold water in the regions they originate from.

    • @Edward.Rippett.
      @Edward.Rippett. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh, I never knew that. Next season I'm gonna pay attention

  • @terryleblanc6868
    @terryleblanc6868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I now hunt on public lands.. boohoo.. I'm convinced the deer have patterned human hunting activity.. Believe me they don't behave like other deer in areas of little or no hunting pressure..

  • @josephtreadlightly5686
    @josephtreadlightly5686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to bowhunt several different private land sites for a total of 70 sits a year. Wind direction & your route to & from your sitting place has alot to do with it. Hunting more evenings & throwing in a morning hunt here & there in a location which has different terrain as far as cover worked for me. Being clean & quiet along with less movement will also help your success. The rain & wind r big factors rather than temp & barometer. I've found 🧊 fishing has more to do with barometer imo.
    Walking during the rain & being setup in your 🌳 b4 the rain stops is a huge advantage. I had alot of success when the moon was between new & 1st quarter. Seemed to not have the effect on deer during the other phases. In fact the day after the 1st quarter moon all the way up to the time when the full moon is waning seem to affect the deer the same. However I've done a few full moon all day sits & have seen several animals like foxes moving @ high noon that I found interesting. Any way u can find a way to allow yourself to turn the odds in your favor slightly on a target animal is a good thing. But it's usually combining many different factors that all exist on one day that u must be out there. Like 2 years ago when Halloween was on Saturday the 31st. Then again a couple of weeks later on Saturday the 14th. Those r 2 deer movements I remember the most from the last 5 years.

  • @houliemon1315
    @houliemon1315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always love hunting in the rain ! I've seen some of the biggest bucks of the season in MONSOON rains ! Misty rain is the time for still hunting ! And another thing is PEE is PEE to deer ! It's doesn't bother them ! Sort of like a tree stand next to a road . The sounds of car's and trucks bothers you more then them ! I had a tree stand that every year I ether killed an buck from or missed one from ! The traffic sounded like it was going right under me it was so close to the road !

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rain events are great times to hunt! And we agree with the road noise thing, bothers us more than them for sure!

  • @bsbrogreen5774
    @bsbrogreen5774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've seen more bucks chasing does in New moons than full moons just my experience maybe I'm wrong but I'll stick to my own experiences.

  • @goneflying140
    @goneflying140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I went out on a morning hunt in early November this year. I sat down in my shack a few minutes before shooting hours, and a light rain started. I thought to myself "damn. I'm not going to see a thing now." 15 minutes later a nice big 8 pt. stepped out, and I had an 18 yard shot. I couldn't believe it!!! That was the earliest I ever got a deer in any season since I have been hunting. I have been missing out on the rain hunts because of that rumor. Tracking was difficult. Even though I started right after I shot him, the blood washed away quickly. Luckily he only went about 40 yards and I found him right away.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like it made a believer out of you! Cool story, and congrats on the buck!!

    • @goneflying140
      @goneflying140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Whitetail_Properties
      Watching your video opened my eyes for sure! I am convinced that a lot of the things we hear as hunters are old wive's tales, or rumors designed to make us think we need to purchase scent lock clothing, deer urine, special camouflage and so many other products.

    • @mrsrex
      @mrsrex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome 👍

    • @mrsrex
      @mrsrex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like theirs about an hour window before a hard rain starts, and about the time it stops, when the deer really come alive!!
      I learned that from ole Roger tagline back in the 90s!!

  • @TheRaghorn
    @TheRaghorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fact. For 3 years my wife would pee in my favorite scrape and I had lots of bucks come to this scrape. This year because of covid she went to stay with parents with the kids in another country. Guess what. After peeing in it myself, putting down 2 different doe in heat lures, all I got in 8 weeks was one very small 8 pt to visit. And there were pleanty of bucks in the area because they were seen on the same cameras, same camera locations that have been there for 3 years. SO NO, their is a difference of what bucks will come to, just like us guys will go for different women. We like a certian type we go for it. LOL

  • @ricks7432
    @ricks7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All hunting areas / dates are not the same. The moon might not make as much of a difference when the woods is quiet or low hunting pressure. Put on a weekend gun opener or snow on the ground in a high powered rifle state with heavy hunting pressure. I have counted over 50 shots in the area on opening day. If you have a full moon you will hear hardly any shots by the 3rd. They go nocturnal fast and hard. It's not as bad on a new moon especially if there is not any snow. Then again most people would not see as many deer so there would be less shooting.

  • @natetruth6828
    @natetruth6828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A light all day rain has always been a good day of hunting for me

  • @Chris-yo4ks
    @Chris-yo4ks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I ALWAYS make my own scrape by clearing some vegetation, the pee in the bare ground......does and bucks always visit it. I even pee out of my deer stand....and the deer just don't mind. Of course, I spend time in the woods year round......so they always have human smell around.

  • @taslishimhoekwai2986
    @taslishimhoekwai2986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about daylight hours? Do you have any data on habit changes based on reduced sunlight? Kinda like when chickens lay fewer eggs when the days get shorter.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The shorter days trigger the increase in testosterone in bucks, so they loose their velvet and summer coats and start "bulking up" for the fall. Testosterone continues to rise throughout October and November and remains high until the bucks loose their antlers.

  • @Highnz57
    @Highnz57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Driving on covelo road (hwy 162. A winding, 30 Mile mountain road that goes from the main highway101 to our small town) on nights around a full moon, there's gonna be dozens of deer on the road. Locals know that so they know when to drive slow and carefully on the road. And on rainy days.

  • @danielhosier8696
    @danielhosier8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciate your video and research it has helped many. After 40+ years of hunting I have had some of my best bucks taken in a nice light rain. I smoke a pipe and do not hesitate in the stand, many will argue with me but i have burnt my pipe and had very nice bucks come in and hang out to check it out cigarettes may be very different. As for the moon I have personally journaled the 4 phases of the moon, to the sides and overhead or below feet. When moon rise or go to feet they travel to feeding area and when it goes down they travel to secure areas to frolick or bed. 2 to 3 hours into a phase is peak activity. I have taken plenty of deer in areas that I peed yet i have watched several real quality bucks skirt around that same area so when horn hunting I take that extra precaution. This is just my lifetime observations and not to be taken otherwise. Regardless of weather, moon or how bad I gotta poop when I can hunt i do my best to stay all day as I learn something new every time. God Bless

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      40 years is more experience than most, and we appreciate that! Your journaling is very cool, and something more hunters should do! We agree, you learn something new every time you step foot in the woods. We think time spend hunting is by far the best teacher for any hunter! God Bless and good luck the rest of the season!

  • @Rcol4427
    @Rcol4427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t argue with good data!

  • @bobcannon5217
    @bobcannon5217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Peter Griffin in me: Woah, woah, woah! But what about the New Car smell?

  • @MrMalicious5
    @MrMalicious5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve gotten off my stand, made a hole, pissed in it and had deer walk right by it none the wiser.

  • @lovemypug5077
    @lovemypug5077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Being able to pee in the woods and not spook deer is a big “relief”

  • @haritchie3460
    @haritchie3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont hunt on full moons.
    Told my wife full moon has affects the earth some males too. I try to spend time with my wife. Understand ..Animals feed at nigh sure ..being married 35 years she dont hunt to know any different. On line feeding on full moons.... I just get lucky.....
    Can't hunt at deer at night any ways .... one more marriage learning skills
    🤣🤣

  • @glenmarlow8595
    @glenmarlow8595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was hunting in pike County Illinois last week
    Had to pee stood up and let it fly out of my stand
    A pretty decent 8 pointer walked under my stand not more than 10 minutes later and never responded at all.
    I have actually been peeing in the deer woods for years and have never had a bad reaction to it

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You were right here where the corporate office is! Good luck the rest of the season!

  • @JoeSyxpack
    @JoeSyxpack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah, we've been making scrapes with "home brew buck lure" for years. It works well to start a scrape.

    • @Docsjeff
      @Docsjeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do too.I’ve read to pee in the scrapes.

  • @danletter9357
    @danletter9357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was waiting on the peeing one. I’m a pisser. I’ve peed then watched both buck and doe walk right up to it, and then pee on the same spot themselves.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have had multiple people observe the same thing!

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Whitetail_Properties I believe there's a journal article corroborating this, by lead author I.P. Freely.

  • @MrAtaripitbull
    @MrAtaripitbull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 2020, I pee'd about 30 yards from my stand and in 2 hours i had 2 bucks and a Doe smelling my urine ! Bad move cause the trio became a duo with my bow.

  • @andrewsbbq
    @andrewsbbq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I piss a firehose of coffee, and fart heinous gas from a week of beer and eating chili, cabbage rolls, etc. at camp and still get deer walking through 20ft from me not a care in the world. I never use scent blockers/spray. Never really go out of my way to hide my silhouette. Be still, and be quite. When the forest settles and comes back to life around you, you know you're hidden. When mice, chipmunks, birds, are all in your close proximity you know you're doing it right. Ever fall asleep and when you wake up notice how much is going on around you, that's what you want when you're awake
    This year I had two grouse come clucking up within 5 feet of me, i finally moved slightly and they freaked out and drummed away

  • @johningersoll3931
    @johningersoll3931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jeff from Whitetail Habitat Solutions also did a few videos on peeing in the woods. He made a mock scrape and peed on it, and monitored it. It attracted plenty of deer. The whole idea is that, with some very minor difference, urine is urine. A deer doesn't know whether it is deer urine, dog urine, human urine, etc. Most urine has a similar smell, especially after it has been on the ground for a few minutes, and any differences in smell that could possibly be based on dietary differences have dissipated.
    Watch the video titled;
    #1 Deer Hunting Myth Destroyed

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is correct! We have seen the video and Jeff was spot on! He has some great content over there too!!

    • @johningersoll3931
      @johningersoll3931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Whitetail_Properties Y'all and Jeff both create great content. There are a lot of naysayers out there regarding topics like this, so having multiple reputable sources that have actually studied it and providing the results might help to break some of the bad habits out there. A lot of people worry way too much over things that wont matter. There is a lot of overthinking in the hunting world right now. I am glad that y'all are getting some of these myths out of the way. Keep up the good work.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johningersoll3931 Agreed! We appreciate the positive feedback and will continue trying to help inform and educate!!

  • @raequanmosley8258
    @raequanmosley8258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you're telling me that I have been wasting money on lures all these years? All I needed to do was just use my own piss in the dispensers? 🤣

  • @rx1hunter896
    @rx1hunter896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kip is the best...has always done his research and has helped hunters nation wide. 👍🙏🦌

  • @anthonysantillo1358
    @anthonysantillo1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ,Great info.

  • @davidrobins4025
    @davidrobins4025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this very instructive information.

  • @mikeleo7189
    @mikeleo7189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a friend who will pee in a deer scrape in a heartbeat, says i'm gonna blow his mind.

  • @richp5321
    @richp5321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My friend poops in the woods almost every day he goes out. I think he has a weird little fetish! He gets a lot of deer tho

    • @heathbranson1779
      @heathbranson1779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. My uncle is the same and he’s killed more deer than any hunter I know. Maybe it’s the secret.

    • @DBZSTAY
      @DBZSTAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dad is also like that 😂

  • @skeetersaurus6249
    @skeetersaurus6249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One major thing overlooked by 'scientific studies' that you've got to actually hunt A LOT of different sites (as in states, regions, etc) to understand...is that deer are a 'close territory animal'...most herds will stay on a 200 (or less) acre piece of land their whole life...so what is 'normal' for what you hunt may be insane for another area.
    I grew up being told 'deer see movement', 'deer smell your urine', 'deer forage at full-moon night', 'deer don't look up unless they have experience being shot at from heights', etc. In reality, this is NOT ALWAYS TRUE! I found this out when I bought a remote land tract in 2000, scouted it heavily for the pre-season, lot of sign, no visuals (no good game cams back then, either), several scrapes, tons of rubs...figured 'not sure when they are here, but I'll make opening weekend out of figuring it out'...set up my stand the week before and left it...come in on opening morning pre-dawn, get set up...and was amazed at all the contradictions I observed that weekend. The day before was full moon, but they didn't start moving until 8am, zero wind made them nervous and antsy...first buck in looked directly at me (20-ft up a tree) and without flinching, ran off immediately...two does followed him, and did the same (tree-staring deer? interesting). This went on all weekend. I asked several who lived in the area what gives with the deer here, and they simply replied 'it's harder to hunt our deer than other places'...no other explanation given...made no sense, but convinced me that 'expert advice' for Ohio doesn't mean a THING in Missouri...and trying to 'follow expert advice' will lead you into eternal circles of confusion...not into a good deer steak!

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We agree completely that different regions, states, counties and even individual farms can all hunt differently for a multitude of reasons- theres no question there. But, a lot of these studies Kip is referring to are conducted in different regions and states and then all the data is compiled. It doesn't me its the gospel, it is simply stating the scientific aspects of deer movement patterns that have been collected. Again, they are still wild animals and can act differently based on region, habitat, pressure and dozens of other factors - which we are fully aware of. Best of luck this fall!!

  • @monsterhog1118
    @monsterhog1118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I can smell the difference between deer, dog or human pee then I know a deer can. You said that study was done on rutting bucks I've seen bucks do some crazy stuff during the rut lol

    • @zzz7zzz9
      @zzz7zzz9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our urine gives off ammonia, hardly 'human'-smelling. And, it evaporates, especially with weather. It in no way spooks deer.

  • @EcouragingGodStories
    @EcouragingGodStories 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you get my age, you don't concern yourself with WHERE you are peeing. DEPENDS solves that problem.

  • @Loukas81
    @Loukas81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how you use science from university studies as the source for your claims. Well done, sir. Well done!

  • @tonydeaton1967
    @tonydeaton1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not really sure if there ANY etched-in-stone facts about deer behavior. Hunted for decades in Lampasas, Texas, and eventually wouldn't bother if it was windy. They just didn't move much. Started hunting in Hamilton, Texas, just fifty miles north, wind didn't bother movement at all. The rut time between the two locations was also substantially different.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting for sure! Kip is simply taking the data from researches across the country and breaking it down for hunters.

  • @olskool3967
    @olskool3967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my favorite time to hunt is in the rain. and i always pee in scrapes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • @cjcourter1477
    @cjcourter1477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Except the moon does effect deer movement. Not so much if they move but when they move.

  • @snooper71
    @snooper71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Purely anecdotal.... We have 3000 acres of farms lands and when harvest season comes, we can't be spending our time always going to the bathroom so we pee all over the fields when need be. We have plenty of whitetails still roaming around.
    Based on personal observation in my area, urine doesn't affect anything other than curiosity.Maybe they are just trying to figure out who was working that day! 🤷‍♂😂

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol! You are correct, it doesn't bother them at all, and if anything makes them more curious. Research has proven that.

  • @JasonTate86
    @JasonTate86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can tell you from personal experience that peeing in the woods will not hurt your day and in fact if you want to draw a buck to a scrape he is running at night pee in it a couple times during the time you want to hunt him and watch when he shows up.

  • @Iamthatguy01
    @Iamthatguy01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peeing in the deer woods CAN have an impact. On one of my hunts, I peed in a bottle and some deer I didn’t see or hear smelled it almost immediately. About two seconds after I started. All I heard was snorts and running. It may be fine to pee on a scout trip, but I will never pee during a hunt.

  • @lambertsaldi1550
    @lambertsaldi1550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍🦌 spot on fellow Hunter

  • @jamesgravel7755
    @jamesgravel7755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to piss directly on the deer to let them know who’s boss. Just a lil trick I picked up in nam

  • @randydunmire
    @randydunmire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are your thoughts on using deer urines weather it's synthetic or 100% natural urine?

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as the scientific data goes, we are un aware positive or negative results of using either. That's not to say there isn't some kind of data out there, though. I guess you could say we are indifferent, we have seen bucks come to mock scrapes or follow a doe-in-heat type lure in the field, and have also observed them not paying any attention to either. Just our observations.

  • @motocross6539
    @motocross6539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagree. I see more on a new moon

  • @joekelly4870
    @joekelly4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So basically your opinion is no better than anybody else's proving if you want to kill deer, you have to get into the woods rain or shine

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We aren’t trying to be better than anyone else’s opinions, just sharing our own with a little bit of science! But yes, to kill deer, just go hunting!

  • @karvtek
    @karvtek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Deer seem to move earlier on rainy afternoons. Maybe because it’s darker or because a cold front is moving in.

    • @usa-rb5fi
      @usa-rb5fi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where I’m at in this types of conditions seems like I see more deer.

  • @kevinb314
    @kevinb314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve always heard that your human pee smells different in short term, but after it settles it’s just ammonia and deer can’t tell the difference
    Also might depend on what you drank recently

    • @yougonnaeatthat9889
      @yougonnaeatthat9889 ปีที่แล้ว

      So what experience do deer have with anything humans intake and can differentiate? Raccoons opossums etc all raid garbage cans so your saying the deer can differentiate if it's a scavenger or human?

    • @josephtreadlightly5686
      @josephtreadlightly5686 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deer seem to have a curiosity to them like alot of animals. Let's say the deer can differentiate the smell of certain other deer in their area. Then u buy a bottle of deer urine from a different state which contains 10% deer urine & 90% cow. It's something different & they will respond as long as a human intrusion doesn't enter the picture.

  • @wilmafingerdoo2690
    @wilmafingerdoo2690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I pee in the woods all the time! Whoever later sits in whatever shooting house I was in doesn't appreciate it though....🤣🤣

  • @ronstecker1835
    @ronstecker1835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the information

  • @whitenight5021
    @whitenight5021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve even taken a poop in the woods n shot a big 10 point right after I got done they want to know what that smell is

    • @roscoep.coltraine6344
      @roscoep.coltraine6344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally try to limit or purposely leave my cigarettes in the truck so I can't smoke but my pop pop swore by cigarette smoke during the rut and who was I to tell him different he forgot more about the woods than I have yet figured out.

    • @zzz7zzz9
      @zzz7zzz9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heard many a tale of hunters getting busted with their pants down.

    • @roscoep.coltraine6344
      @roscoep.coltraine6344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zzz7zzz9 I accidentally/unintentionally caught the boy from the farm up the road and his girlfriend one day during archery on a quad 75-80 yards from my stand with their pants down. And from what I could tell the pants wasn't only thing that was go in down!

    • @roscoep.coltraine6344
      @roscoep.coltraine6344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very good tactic for wing shooting flys with the table salt shotguns!

    • @zzz7zzz9
      @zzz7zzz9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@roscoep.coltraine6344 the rut will not be denied.

  • @timmctaggart1750
    @timmctaggart1750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t care about the moons effect on feeding, it’s the effect on rut timing.

  • @toddtubby9580
    @toddtubby9580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just stay in your stand during full moon nights
    Get one everytime

  • @rreevesb3
    @rreevesb3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Florida you have 90+ degrees during the rut with pressure full moon. The deer won't move during daylight.

  • @coondogsoutdooradventures2484
    @coondogsoutdooradventures2484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right on! 41 years of hunting and experience told me the same things. Sudden large Storms will drive deer to cover.

  • @saltcreekammo
    @saltcreekammo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was told the moon thing and also that deer will be out to feed the couple days before a big rain or snow storm to stock up so they don’t have to be out...

    • @nixonfleming6575
      @nixonfleming6575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True when there a cold front coming in rain or snow they be on move come out early in am eat or min or late afternoon to eat before it cold they go lay down in pines wood or heavy brush area near field.i seen a lot deer on snowy days in mid afternoon toward 2to 5 when start get little dark coming out eat .

  • @MrWhiltetail
    @MrWhiltetail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have found up in Michigan a new moon or even a lot of heavy cloud cover at night for extended periods tends to intensify rutting activity but the rut happens just about to the day every year regardless. This seems to be the case in Iowa too.... Also, I used to pee in scrapes & mock scrapes as well as out of my tree stand back in the early 80's & found that deer are often attracted to it & will open up scrapes around the scrape you peed in or ignore it when just peeing in your spot, but there were also times when they would freak out & disappear from the area or snort. I think it can vary on a persons personal body chemistry at the time, but most of the time it wasn't an issue so I will pee in my spot if I have to go.

  • @trevorhonstrom9651
    @trevorhonstrom9651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I pee in all mock scrapes and it works better then most scrape attractants

  • @bobmcbride7016
    @bobmcbride7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We found that following the fishing patterns of fish feeding also translated to deer moving and feeding. Can you verify this.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have not seen any data connecting the two. But we have heard from other viewers like yourself stating similar things.

  • @mit0009
    @mit0009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went hunting in a thunderstorm, lighting, hard rain ect. It let up a little bit and 5 doe and a buck popped out out of blue. They were easily spooked though.

  • @raymondpack8999
    @raymondpack8999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try a vanilla scented air freshener. You will be surprised.

  • @confucius2616
    @confucius2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Deer live outside, we don’t. Rain has little to no effect on deer

  • @josephbragg5020
    @josephbragg5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seen a friend take a krap on a lane one time ,he walked 150 yds to get away from it and after he did the deer came thru and sniffed it but he was too far away for a shotgun and slug to get a shot.

  • @bradleyklein3684
    @bradleyklein3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We had a full moon on our opening weekend .it was the first time noone on the property shot a deer on opening weekend.

  • @andrewbrown6522
    @andrewbrown6522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im like a dog marking territory as i walk around. 😆

  • @G33KC0R3
    @G33KC0R3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First of all i love how clear and educational your video is. Secondly, literally 4 days ago, (the day after the full moon) i peed behind my stand and killed a doe at dusk. So there you go on that. Ive already clicked the sub button.

  • @truenatureofficial
    @truenatureofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh I'm gonna be pissing all over the woods now. LOL!

  • @lanceroberthough1275
    @lanceroberthough1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peeing in a scrape is likely not the same as just randomly peeing in the woods because the context changes and I believe smart buck can discriminate

  • @TheDeanosaurus
    @TheDeanosaurus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:48... ok but how many deer went for the Chevy?

  • @youngin881
    @youngin881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heck, I hang scent bombs with my #1. They like it.

  • @SWTBlazers
    @SWTBlazers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No mention of pooping in the woods...

  • @Customi207
    @Customi207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the rain-movement-thing apply to snowfall?

  • @mh-bd9re
    @mh-bd9re 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pissed on a tree was married a week later!

  • @billy56081
    @billy56081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had more deer attracted to my urine than doe in heat.

  • @markj363
    @markj363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just and FYI, Crest White Strips work great.

  • @boomerrangerron
    @boomerrangerron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I too agree with your conclusion about peeing in the woods! The only exception I think I'd add is not if you had Asparagus for dinner the night before!

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL! Now thats funny!

    • @boomerrangerron
      @boomerrangerron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Whitetail_Properties Thanks, yes I always try to add humor to my comments and to my channel whenever possible!

  • @randywallace
    @randywallace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude! You just left us hanging on whether or not the new car smell attracted deer.

    • @Whitetail_Properties
      @Whitetail_Properties  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Kip eluded to it not attracting or deterring deer!

    • @fredkeele6578
      @fredkeele6578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mix pine tree ones and piss on a mock tree scrape. Lol

  • @ProjecthuntanFish
    @ProjecthuntanFish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peeing out of the stand does nothing to your hunt