YOU'RE AIMING WRONG! Deer Shot Placement | Archery Deer Hunting Tip
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- Learn how to properly aim at a deer when archery hunting. Shot placement is critical when deer hunting with a bow and arrow. Deer will "jump the string" or "duck the arrow" 95% of the time which leads to misses and deer hit high in the back with no recovery. The lungs are lower than you expect, which leads to the myth about "No Man's Land", which does not exist. Take it from me, I hit a deer high last year and didn't find him. I know better, yet in the moment mental mistakes do happen. Watch this video so you don't make the same mistake!
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Aiming at the lower 1/3 regardless of distance is how your supposed to aim at whitetail from a tree stand period! Whoever showed you to aim center mass gave you bad info, a deer is not a target like you shoot in the backyard, it has reflexes! Lower 1/3 aim ensures a boiler room hit if he ducks or doesn’t duck!
Yup, spot on. Honestly for me, I knew it and it was just a mental mistake. I also know that many people might not realize that, so wanted to take the opportunity to teach from one of my mistakes!
Red dawn G43x Yep, you have successfully pointed out exactly what was just explained in the video.
Not trying to be that guy who always disagrees. But I think every situation could be different. Like depending on how high your stand is. Are you shooting compound or crossbow. Is he 18 yd or 38 yd. That's why I preach, practice practice practice and from different scenarios. I do agree 9 out of 10 deer their first reaction upon hearing the twang is to duck.
Like if you're shooting from a high 24 FT stand and that deer is only 20 yards. I'm going to aim center Mass. Especially if I take out the crossbow that day. Sorry you didn't recover it was a nice dear, take care and good luck
There are always additional variables to consider and it’s hard to cover all in one video, so that’s what the comments and conversation is for. Thanks for sharing
Takes courage to be this honest about your mistakes. great video.
Appreciate the comment!
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I’m a new hunter, thanks for the info. I’m always amazed at the fact that people take time out of their lives to share knowledge with total strangers. Thank you.
Glad we could help, it’s the least I could do after wounding a deer, hopefully it will mean fewer people and animals experience it. Good luck this year!
Yes tk u for the info... just moved here from Maryland.. looking for a hunting buddy ... and a place to hunt... iam in dayton ohio.... tks
Good luck this year!
you're a stand up dude!! just came across this video, thanks for taking the time to help fellow hunters!!@@WeekendWoodsmen
Glad it was helpful and thank you for the comment and the support! @@brett1567able
We preach "aim low" in our archery club. You described perfectly why we do. If a deer doesn't drop it's heart shot, if it does drop it's double lung.
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Brian, I was told ages ago that the basic reason for holding low was because the downward trajectory takes gravity out of the equation, that if you aim from a tree stand like you would on flat ground, you'll always hit(or miss) high. From what I'm seeing in this video and some others I've watched, the reason to hold low is to account for the deer ducking prior to launching it's hairy ass out of the area. How much of what I've been told is correct, and how low should I be aiming? I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but I shoot a recurve. Should I just follow the advice here on this channel, or is there more to it? Thanks.
Great video and great advice. I started bow hunting at the age of 10 in 1970. Learned this same lesson the hard way. Another good tip is practice with your bow in the gear you will be hunting in. Shooting your bow in August/September in short and tee shirts is different than shooting the same bow wearing heavy clothes in November. Learned that lesson the hard way too. Practice like you hunt. It makes a difference. Also keep taking practice shots all during the season to make sure your bow doesn't change. Dragging the bow around the woods you can hang the sight or arrow rest on a limb and move things without knowing it. Learned that the hard way as well. Good luck and hunt safe!
100% agree, I actually do something I am not sure a lot of other people do, to get "Mental Reps" on deer I don't plan to shoot. Check it out!
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Thanks for the comment!
Great advice. I say the same thing because I've learned the hard way. Practice how you hunt!
@@KeepinYouUp07 💯 thanks!
Great reminders, thanks!
Great advice and very true ! I had a friend/customer that was getting ready for a Canadian whitetail archery hunt. I had told him the same thing about practicing in what you will be wearing. The next day he called me in a panic, begging me to come to his house and help him figure out what was wrong with his equipment. He was shooting 2ft to the right at 20 yards and his grouping was opened up pretty badly. I get to his house after work and he looks like the Michelin man , lol ! He is wearing his 40 below zero , white snow suit he planned to hunt in. We had to retune and resight his bow ! Had I not given him the advice to practice in his hunting suit, he likely would have had a catastrophic Canadian hunting trip .
Even a thin net type face mask can wreck your anchor point and cause a miss, or worse, a bad hit.
Another thing to note is a deer with its head down feeding will drop faster than a deer with its head up. When the deer reacts to the sound of the bow it loads it’s legs to take off running. That’s why they drop down. When the deers head is up it’s body only drops as fast as gravity pulls it down. When the deers head is down and it reacts to the shot it can drop faster than gravity pulls it down as the inertia from the deer raising it’s head and neck forces the body down faster
Someone else mentioned that. Makes sense! I guess that also means that you are better off stopping the deer, even though it is “on alert”? What do you think?
Well idk. But let’s say a deer is grazing or eating at a cornpile. Now that I know that I would rather wait for their head to be up. I used to just assume it was best to shoot when their head was down if you get the option
Good job, Seth. I've tried to explain that to many people and I think I must get too technical. The way you explain it is much simpler and easy to follow. I usually can generate a deer in the headlights look shortly after I explain an "equal but opposite reaction." I never realized how far a deer can move like that until I put a scope on my crossbow that records video.
Great stuff!
That's one of the best things about this, is also learning from you all!
You are definitely doing the hunters and the wildlife a service by sharing this learning point! I hope that every last person can see this or learn it from someone prior to learning it the hard way-really ought to be taught more in bow hunter education so it is engrained in us when we hit the woods! Hate for the wildlife to suffer (the ones that have it worse than a back strap scar) for us to do our learning, but the life of wildlife is definitely never easy, even on the best day. We owe it to them to learn all we can and practice to do everything within our control to deliver that lethal hit. Everything else is left up to chance of course. I appreciate your humility and willingness to share this crucial information rather than being the kind of person who just looks down on the weekend warriors! Good luck this season!
It's good to see someone to understands what it is all about! Appreciate the comment and good luck this year!
I've been rifle hunting for years but I'm about to start bow hunting soon and never thought about this. It's great that you have all the video evidence to prove your point. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for the comment! Good luck!
I was taught that lesson when I started bowhunting back in the 1970s. You have to know your effective shooting distance when bowhunting, and especially shooting instinctively with a much slower, recurve at a lower poundage and using a wooden arrow. Even inside 20 yards, I had 2 deer in the first season that I shot over the top of, and part of the reason is when you have to stop a deer with a blat, or another noise. It puts them on high alert and it's amazing how fast they can drop. Lesson learned. Nice video.
Thanks for the comment! They also drop even when they aren’t on high alert. It’s amazing how much the drop when they hear that bow regardless!
Great informative video and camera work. I'm always impressed by hunters who take the time to film. I never tried it but I just know it can't be easy. Things can happen so quick in the woods.
Thanks for the comment! It does make it hard! Have to be able to plan ahead and think about different scenarios so you are just reacting vs trying to figure it out on the fly!
Been rifle hunting for 20+ years and this will be my first year trying a bow so I'm glad I stumbled across this video! The deer in SC are spooky enough at 100+ yards, I'm eager to see them at 20.
When I began bow hunting, I had to learn to manage buck fever, not used to seeing so many more deer bow hunting, vs rifle hunting.
Enjoy the show, & relax. “Just focus on hitting that small pea sized spot on your target”.
@@L2FlyMN Also spend some time thinking about where deer will come from, and shooting lanes around you so when you are in the moment you have less to think about and are more in reaction mode. Mental prep is a huge component to bow hunting. Thanks for the comment!
if your deer are spooky at 100 yards, you probably won't ever see one at 20
@@Day12My very true
I love it and fully agree! One of the first shot placement tips I got was from the owner of the archery shop I worked at. All he said was "Aim low." This video explains why that was such a good tip.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment!
Great advice and it's so hard to both self film and hunt with a bow, but you kept your cool! I'm amazed at how this buck started to drop and that you didn't spine him! Yes, the bottom 1/3 is the vital point! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment! I was also shocked I didn’t spine him, I wish I would have 😔
Totally agree wish I would have seen this video 3 years ago till I learned this lesson the hard way. I was fortunate enough he ducked the entire arrow and was a clean miss but It was on the biggest buck I’ve pulled the trigger on to date.
It’s tough!!! Thanks for the comment. Good luck this season!
Great advice. I always aim for the heart for that very reason.
Thanks! It’s harder to get your brain to allow it than you would think 🤣. Appreciate the comment!
This is exactly what my employer talked about when we discussed about deer hunting with a bow. He owns this hunting store (sells all kinds of gear for hunting, as well as hunting bows and fire arms) and he's been hunting with a bow (and fire arms) for few decades.
Very good info for all new bow hunters about to score their first deer 👌
Thanks!
So I watched this video right before I went out. Had it in my mind to do what you suggested “aim for the heart” well I put my arrow true when a young buck walked in about 10 yards from my stand. Right through the heart! Deer ran about 30 yards. Never aiming anywhere else again! Thanks for your insight!
Awesome! Congratulations! Especially on those close shots, it is easy to miss high because of the steep angle (any small move up will be exponential) Thanks for the comment!
This is exactly how I got my deer last year. I had taken a flat land shot on a Doe a couple years prior at 50 yards, and missed over her back despite the shot going exactly where my pin was. That experience led me to do what you are saying here. I had a big doe standing full broadside at 52 yards with perfect conditions, so I set my sight to 52 and aimed lower 1/3 for the heart. I ended up double-lunging her and she only made it about 50 yards before she crashed.
Hunt long enough and we will all make mistakes. I love it when people can openly share so others can learn. Thanks for sharing and good luck this year!
@@WeekendWoodsmen Thanks! Same to you!
At that distance they not only drop but begin to turn. I've also had them freeze not knowing where the noise was coming from.
@@craig5649 That's right. The further the shot is the more time they have to drop before the arrow makes contact and they'll have time to turn away as well. Having said that Mostly I wouldn't take a long shot like that.
True, I hit one high and thought I blew it, but it hit below the spine, it hit the main artery that runs along the backbone , it was like a garden hose out both sides for 10 feet on each side (in 16" of snow) he made it 30 feet and stuck in the ground like a lawn dart. 20x30 area of solid red .
Best bad situation ever, my yard looked like the Japanese flag . I followed the backstrap hit option once too 5 hours and I saw him 3 times, almost no blood and he didn't even act hurt.
Good Video.
Thank you, I was really hoping I had clipped that artery, no dice ☹️ thanks for the comment
Nice, simple, to the point vid. Makes perfect sense. I'll be thinking about this in the stand this season👍🏼
Thank you!
Very humble of you to admit error and help us learn from your mistake.
Hopefully it makes a difference!! Thanks!
Great video, very practical tip for everyone to take into consideration. 3D targets often can skew our perspective on where to actually aim. Next time you are out shooting try to kill the target so to speak. This has helped me a ton!
Thanks for the comment and great advice!
Excellent use of the lighted circular aim point to show what took place after your shot.
Thank you!
You’re spot on. Aim lower than you think for a good shot, especially at closer ranges. I did a similar thing last year, aiming high and tight on the sweet spot in the golden triangle only to hit the shoulder blade. I tracked a very weak blood trail for three hour eventually loosing the deer.
The shoulder and bone structure is what pushes my aim point back a little further than what most recommend.
I did not hit scapula. I aim back edge of the leg to take it out of play completely.
Thanks for the advice im trying to get my first deer with a bow this year and have never thought about them ducking.
Many people can’t see it in real time, they are naturally going to load up, which makes them drop. Appreciate the comment!
Ever since I watched a video (over 20 years ago) that showed how fast a deer can drop (fractions of a second), I have always aimed about 1/3 up from the lower chest, right behind the leg, for exactly the same reasons you mention. Very interesting to see it in practice!
Yup! Glad you appreciate the video! Thanks for the comment!
This is one of those pieces of wisdom I'm glad I learned really early on. Last one I shot (with a muzzle loader) I thought I shot too low, but it turns out he ducked when he heard the lock snap, just before the round discharged and I still double lunged him. Never underestimate that duck, or how close to the sternum (low in the chest) those vital organs really sit.
That’s right! I had a few people reply that they took this advice and shot too low, and I said “that’s really hard to do”
i was lucky this fall. Got my first buck since starting bow hunting last year. Got him at 30 yards, double lung. ran about 60 yards and dropped dead. He didn't flinch until the arrow was already thru him. When i found the arrow it was soaked in blood tip to nock so i knew i had a good shot. Ive always been told to aim low because they will drop and also to not do a shot when their head is down. I was pretty damn excited to get one 😁 He was just upwind of myself. He stopped right in front of me and looked around. My friend said my shot placement was perfect. Its good to see videos where people admit their mistakes so others can learn from them.
Congratulations on your buck and thanks for the comment!
One situation where you would want to aim higher is a steep shot angle. You're aiming for the lower third on the interior of the deer, which means you have to aim higher than the lower third on the exterior of the deer at those angles. It's exact same reason why you aim towards the back of the lungs in a quartering away shot.
Yup, you are correct, and on steep shots they have no time to drop so works out well!
@@WeekendWoodsmen Even if they did have time to drop, the location of the entry wound is irrelevant as long as the center of the wound tract goes through the bottom third.
There are several factors on where the aiming point on a deer could be but I feel the most important factor is to be able to determine the mood of the deer . Is he or she calm ,on alert or nervous ? I have actually put my pin below the deers body at 34 yards because the deer was already spooked but the result was a shot that took out the top of the heart .
Absolutely! Great point
Really easy to judge people for these shots until it happens to you, this is such a great video! Perfect evidence, in real time this is a perfect shot, when slowed down you see a different story! Well done sir!
Appreciate the thoughtful comment!
Excellent! To the point and great visuals to help! I’ve also learned the “hard way”, of improper arrow placement!
Appreciate the comment!
They duck 99% of the time when they're alerted, like how you got him to stop. It's easy to read their body language and know. I think if this buck is still casually eating acorns and you didn't have to stop him, that shot is a double lung. Still solid advice, I always aim for the heart too.
Appreciate the comment! Thank you! Good luck this year!
Yeah this bah thing is not very smart. Back in the late 80s hunting shows started doing this. Take your mouth and make a clicking noise like you would to a horse. You set a deer up to explode with the bah.
Thanks for the suggestion I will have to try that! There have been times that softer/different noises doesn't stop the deer or doesn't stop them long enough for a shot. Notice I went softer at first (I always try to start subtle), then I went loud. I would rather have the deer stopped and on alert than gone with no chance at a shot.
I read they drop 75% faster with their head down
Interesting
This is good info thanks. I shot 2 deer so far in my hunting career and both times the entrance wound was a bit higher than what i had aimed at (I was fortunate enough to double lung them both times) That confused me a little because at the time I was using a pretty well calibrated crossbow. This perfectly explains what was happening. I will be using this knowledge for sure going forward and when I teach people who want to learn from me.
Yup, many people don’t even realize it is happening because they can’t see it in real-time. The camera tells the real story! Thanks for the comment!
The speed of the arrow would make a difference. I'm shooting 425 grain at 350 fps.
When you shoot from an elevated position,your POI is slightly higher than aiming point .. yea????
I really only think about my elevation if the deer is really close like 15 yards and in. In those situations they don’t have much time to drop. General rule of thumb is aim for where you want The arrow to exit
@@b.a.lineman7582 both mine were from the ground and pretty level shooting position but I get your point and will keep it in mind if I start using a tree stand
I like that you show a healthy respect for properly harvesting the deer. That is the worst feeling to hit a deer and lose it and not know what happened to it. Even if its a doe.
Totally agree! Appreciate the comments!
Thanks for the tip as a newbie I would have just thought shoot center mass but I under estimated how quick the reflexes of deer really are glad I’m learning these vital tips before my first hunt!
Awesome! That’s why we do this! Good luck!
I have always aimed for the elbow which points at the heart when they are standing still.
My only close range shot with the bow was less than 20 yards on the ground, and that buck dropped nearly a foot, and my arrow just hit bone.
Needless to say, that buck ran off after spinning around and ripping the arrow out of his back.
That scapula is tough to get through if you hit it, sorry to hear it. Thanks for the comment!
I’m 65 years old. Been bow hunting all my life. Never have shot under a deer with a bow. Hit high or shot over them more times than I would like to admit. Especially in the early years shooting aluminum arrows and 44” ata bows with 9” brace height.
Appreciate the comment!
Not gonna lie tho them aluminum arrows seemed to blow through anything they hit, it took me some time to get my arrows right when i switched to carbon weight wise.
I used to shoot aluminum also, they were tanks!
@@WeekendWoodsmen Easton gamegetters! Oh for the old days…!!!
🤣 I forget what I shot but they were Eastons!
Absolutely appreciate this short and to the point video of lessons learned. Most hunters wouldn't be man enough to share this. Thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Have to make the most of a bad situation!
@@WeekendWoodsmen just shows you are a true leader. Not afraid to own mistakes and share so other may benefit. A rare find nowadays!
@@user-fq4ku3jk1p appreciate it and try to live it every day!
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Beginner Archer 🏹 Thank you for the tip!
Awesome good luck this year. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for sharing, we all understand that pain.
Thanks Mike. It was tough, I’m hoping sharing my experience will prevent others from feeling it!
Yes, it’s a complete heartbreak to wound a beautiful animal. Pick up a rifle and all that STOPS.
Good video and great advise. Also, started PTSD when viewing all those obstructions in various lanes where a shot could have been taken. I was always so careful with scent management but there needed to be some clearing done of that blocking foliage. Sometimes I wonder how it's possible to get a shot off?
That’s was why he sat inside 20 yards for so long with no shot attempts! I am also very careful with lanes and obstructions! Thanks for the comment!
I cried just a little bit when that deer went running off and you said you didn't get him.
Been there and done that!!! Good video.
It hurt, not sure what was worse, thinking it was a good shot and finding out otherwise or knowing it was a bad shot from the start 😔
Oh boy. I wich I had seen this video before our hunting season. Was my first hunt ever, and with a longbow. Hit the buck to heigh. 3 days of tracking - losts of blood but NO buck. Will practice more purposfull on lower placement. Thank you for sharing your failures to - just always see the good shots in the videos! Greetings from South Africa
Sorry to hear it, and it is also what we try to do, which is make it better for all (including the animals). 🙂 good luck this year!
A deer’s reaction time is amazing at any distance. I had a doe duck clean under an arrow at 10 yards! I thought it was a guaranteed kill when I released. She left elbow and chest prints in the snow and my arrow was stuck in the tree behind her at perfect lung height (I was shooting from the ground, level with her). She was totally relaxed and unaware I was there too until the shot. Amazing creatures.
That’s crazy! Appreciate the comment!
Witnessed the same thing at 25 yards. Missed her clean! They can be masters, at dodging arrows.
I’ve even shot low, expecting the drop, then they jump instead. 😑🤷♂️
Impossible based on physics and reaction time. An animal simply can’t react that quickly at 10 yards to dodge an arrow. Either you are lying or there is something you aren’t telling hs
Waholo, nope. I had a ~15 yard deer duck my arrow last year shooting my micro mag at around 320 fps. Here's the thing about physics (and I'm a PhD in solid state physics): the Schrodinger wave equation allows information to go in both directions in the time stream. Look it up. So a deer may be acting on instincts that don't conform to typical linear time models. Second, they have a head with mass. I can whip my hand down to catch a dropped pair of keys faster than free fall due to overall momentum of my body. A deer can whip its body center low faster than gravity if it is moving it's head up quickly at the same time. Pretty amazing, but not at all impossible. Good hunting.
@@waholoopesorry74 " *Impossible based on physics and reaction time* "
A trad bow at 150fps would take about 0.2s to reach the doe. Theoretically possible, but not really. I remember I once counted the frames on a collection of bowhunting hits. Embarrassingly, I don't remember the result, only the conclusion, that chasing speed in order to hit quicker seemed like a folly idea. The animals reacted, sure enough, but the reaction time was fairly consistent and quite reasonable.
Anybody can repeat my approach. A "." and an "," advances and backs up the video by one frame increments. Just find a compilation and start counting. Should be useful, especially for people who think that 30% more speed is a worthy trade off for the penetration potential.
Any bowhunter with any time under his/her belt has experienced what you just showed in some form or fashion. Some won't admit it, they were experts on their first day of course. My earlier years of bowhunting I was definately aiming wrong "all the time". Won some, lost some. Back then "everybody's" advice was to simply say "aim behind the shoulder". Today, I have a much greater understanding of deer and thier anatomy. For the last 7-8 years I have 2 simple areas I aim with my bow. (1) "The magic triangle", primarily for broadside shots, which is straight up the front leg and aim just above the armpit region (thats where all the goodies intersect). (2) Quartering away aim for the armpit. The degree the deer is quarting away determines how far behind the armpit. "Aim for the exit hole" if you will. 100% recovery rate the past 8 years. School of learning from my mistakes the first 10 years.
Excellent advice 100% agree with it and I wanted to make sure that others learned from my mistake, it in a small way makes a bad situation better. We owe it to the animals we hunt! thanks for the comment!
I am not meaning to say anything negative. Far from it. A few yrs. ago I went to Nevada on a deer hunt. I took this suggestion from a older guy. I thought he was full of it. That was the first mistake I made. We were using rifles in that hunt. I remembered what he had told. A nice buck came out, at about 150 yds. Took my time squeezed the trigger, shot about 2 1/2inches above the shoulder. Dropped him right there. Since I had another tag, we sat there and talked. This guy bet me $700 that I could not do it again. The older guy that taught me about this was with us. I said OK , then Ed said he would double up. OK, the guy that had bet $1400 I will add another $700. O K . Ed looked at me, the next deer that came up, same distance. I thought if I miss , I will have to pay this $2100. Needless to say, I look in Ed at Ed, and he winked at me, told me you got this. He told me to take my time. I sueezed
Since I accidently hit the arrow to send it. When I squeezed the trigger, watched the deer drop right there. That was the most money I made in about 30 minutes. I would definitely try to go to some 3 D shoots.duringthe summer months. It is fun and you learn quite a lot from each other👍
I have heard 3D shoots are fun. I do plan to try them sometime! Thanks for sharing!
3 D shoots are a blast! Once you go to one, you will be hooked, really. Everyone shares little things and bounces this and that off each other. I love them. Believe me when bow season starts, you will even be more sure of yourself. I will say, people will share everything they know. I have a Mathews TacTic and I use a HHA single pin slider sight. Makes it easier to adjust for different distances. One trick a senior pro showed me to set different distances I to take a piece of cardboard and use gorilla glue tape and tear it in half. Then the cardboard , which I use about an 18 inch square make one tape vertical and the other tape horizontal. The HHA sight you can make adjustments so you are hitting dead on where you are aiming. I use it and I set my my bow out to 40 yards. The HHS sights come with different sight tapes. Makes things so much easier. If you know someone that can help you, it makes it so much easier. Once you get this taken care of, bow hunting is even more fun, just saying and losing arrows are a thing of the past. Bowhunters are a different breed of hunters.
Great video and good advice. There is a difference between shooting targets and putting yourself in the moment. Thanks for making the video...................
For sure! Thanks for the comment!
I'm a new hunter as well and it's very refreshing to have folks passing on their knowledge to us n00bies! Thank you!
Glad it helped! Thanks for the comment
It’s my opinion that if you don’t stop the deer, you don’t have to aim low. Stopping the deer puts it on alert, then the sound of the bow makes it drop down. Today’s bows are fast enough to hit a walking deer. I shoot deer that are walking and sometimes even trotting with my old bow, which is only about 260 fps.
I 100% agree that stopping the deer puts them on alert and makes it extremely likely they are going to drop.
I have a hard time saying it’s okay to shoot at a walking deer, I don’t even like shooting at a moving deer with a gun. Have I done it? Yes. Do I recommend it, no. Ideally you are either stopping the deer and aiming lower 1/3, or you are waiting for the deer to stop normally and STILL think aim lower 1/3.
That being said, you have to know your capabilities and your equipment, so I am not going to tell you “you are wrong” just, general recommendation for most people, would be to wait until the deer is stopped.
@@WeekendWoodsmen If you’ve never watched “Bowhunting October Whitetails” with Barry Wensel , I’d recommend you checking it out. It’s pretty eye opening.
Will check it out, appreciate the comment!
I'm with you. I don't stop deer inside 20 yards unless they are moving fast.
@@IIDASHII We try not to, which is also why he walked right through my first shooting lane!
Thanks for not telling us your horoscope and what you ate for supper.
You are welcome! Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for showing a “learning experience “ that is got we get knowledge
You are welcome! Thanks for the comment!
This is awesome advice, Thank you for sharing. I just started with a bow, I am not ready to hunt with one yet, this is a great video!!!!
Glad it helped! Good luck!
thar deer did not jump the string...you hit high
🤣🤣 what video are you watching?
So glad someone else said this. That deer did not move one bit until the arrow hit🤣🤣🤣
@@tannerharris1483 and you both clearly didn’t watch the whole video…🤣🤣 Jokes on you bud there’s a reason you are now pinned to the top.
you and tannerharris are either blind or trolling because the deer obviously moved. My father and his father taught me to aim low in bowhunting here in western Maryland for the exact same reason.
lol@@pickler_pickler
You shot high. That's all it is. You shot 6 in high. The first thing you did was alarm the animal. Now you telling people to shoot low to anticipate a deer's reaction. Please stop giving that advice. What are you gonna do if the deer is 10 yds from the stand? Aim low? HOW ABOUT AIMING RIGHT, NOT TAKING SHOTS IN BAD SITUATIONS, KNOWING WHEN TO SHOOT AND WHEN NOT TO SHOOT, AND KNOWING WHERE TO SHOOT. Maybe if you wouldn't be worried about making money with your video you could have been in a better situation to take a more ethical shot .
Seems like you are really angry and lacking drastically on specific instruction. You are also clearly not paying attention to the video where I say, something along the lines of “Unless they are really close” and had the deer not dropped then it would have been a double lung, so what specifically is your actual problem with aiming at the heart? Because 99% of the time a deer is dropping whether on alert or not, and alerting the deer to get its head up actually REDUCES the amount a deer will drop contrary to popular belief. Finally you should read through the comments on the number of people this has helped before you start giving crap to people about “making money”. How many other people would have made this same mistake if this video didn’t exist? At what point was I in a better position to take a more ethical shot? The first lane I had I DIDN’T stop him because I DIDN’T want to alert him and he walked right through it, that’s the risk you take when you don’t stop them when you need them stopped. How many people do you see out there highlighting mistakes they have made so others don’t have to? Everyone else just “sweeps them under the rug”
You should really try to broaden your perspective, and if you are going to criticize someone, you should offer specific information on how to improve, otherwise. So I will ask, where would you have aimed in this situation?
@@WeekendWoodsmen you need to acquire some sound experience before giving instructions. I did offer you some information, stop playing with your camera and focus on making a clean shot. I commend you for admitting your shot was bad that's more than some others would do.
@@user-ql4ji8di9x camera or not the advice is sound. Thanks for the comments
1 never alert the deer to your presence if you would of stopped messing with the camera you would of killed that buck and you are wrong about lower 1/3rd if that deer doesn't drop you just shot to low here's my advice on a deer stop with bad advice you just made a bad shot in happens we all make mistakes but stop with the excuses
to each their own on stopping the deer. yes that is the downside to filming...and the lower 1/3 MOST deer drop and if you shoot at the lower 1/3 it's a heart shot vs aiming CENTER MASS which is too high to start let alone when that drop. it was a mistake that is admitted in the video? Aimed too high which means I shot too high? lol@@tylernewton3719
Thank you for your expertise and advice! you are a true hunter. I subscribed!
Thanks for the comment and the subscribe! Good luck this year!
Great information again. Thanks for these videos, very helpful.
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Sorry, that one is on you. Wrong shot placement.
Kinda the ENTIRE point…
FFS watch the video and use your brain. Braindead comment.
No sht sherlock, thats the point of the vid...omg lol
I enjoyed this video. I'm looking to get into bow hunting and this is very good advice. I found it comical that the ad that came on before this was an ASPCA ad and it had the banner throughout the whole video.
thanks for the comment
Exactly, no bad result from aiming low. Excellent presentation. I had the same thing happen to me a few seasons back and have learned from my mistakes.
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What about one jumping the string when shooting low?
They don’t really “jump” they always drop. Even if they were to jump they would load up first resulting in a drop.
It's vital to know yardage when aiming low. Probably thousands of deer hit in the brisket doing this then finding the deer was a bit farther out than thought.
Thank You. Very good tip for my next deer hunt.
Glad it helped, thank for the comment!
Appreciate you sharing your experience for others to learn from 👍🏻
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Just found your channel. That is a good illustration of a valid lesson learned. Thanks for sharing! You got a sub and a like from me. Good luck this season!!!
Thanks so much! Good luck to you also!
Thank you. This is helpful info. Will follow your advice this season.
Appreciate the comment! Good luck this year!
Dude I appreciate it. I'm going out this season to get my first. I was planning on aiming for the albow/ center mass before this.
good luck!
Great advice, thanks for that. This is my first year solo hunting as an adult. Haven't hunted since I was a child. Trying to learn enough to get some meat in the freezer this year. This will certainly help next year when I plan to do archery season with a recurve!
Great! Check out the “Vital V” by Ranch Fairy, he has good stuff in shot placement too
@@WeekendWoodsmen I'll check it out for sure.
Great video. I don’t bow hunt anymore but I did learn this lesson years ago. And with all the videos on here showing shots at deer, you see this happen on basically every shot. You would think it would be common knowledge now. But that adrenaline gets pumping and we revert to the training we’ve mastered. I would encourage this, when practicing at the range, practice shooting low for this reason. As you said, at point blank range, this is not an issue. But shots over say, 10 yards, the deer hears the bow release and his instincts kick in, he drops and bolts away.
Yup! You better believe the lower 1/3 (and really the belly line) on my target this year is WORN OUT!!!
Excellent advice and the science to back it up!
Thanks!
Excellent video friend good luck this season!
Thank you! You as well!
Good info....I was always taught to aim for the heart with my bow....no one ever really told me why...This makes a lot of sense!!
Glad to hear it!
Great tip and illustration to demonstrate
thank you!
I needed to hear this reminder. My tag starts August 10th! Thanks!
Good luck out there!
I feel your pain man! My dad always taught me even with the rifle "look for the white of his belly and inch the crosshairs just above that and behind his leg. You'll nail em' every time!
Now I'm having fun teaching my mom who's second ever hunt, she got drawn for the elusive Bull Moose tag!!! I'm super excited for her!!
(Greetings from Saskatchewan Canada!)
Greetings! Thanks for the comment and good luck on that moose hunt!!
Thanks for this informative video !!!
It is needed information for ALL Archers 🏹 !!! Well done and excellent presentation …….. Thank You
Appreciate it and thanks for the comment!
Absolutely great advice learned a long time ago ✌️
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Brilliant video. Plain and simple.
Thank you for the kind words!
Took this lesson to heart , aimed low and upon finding him 3 inches higher in the lungs, so thanks a lot partner
Really glad to hear it!! Congratulations!
Man you made a great point! You got to the heart of the matter!
Thank you!
Doing my first deer hunt 2023. I’ll remember this, thank you!
good luck!
As a recurve shooter, we do this a lot! Slower arrows, even though most of our shots are inside 25 yards.
My bow is also a little louder than I'd like. Trying to tweak it but hunting season starts Saturday here for us in Texas!
I made sure to take extra steps to silence my bow also! Good luck this year!
I put yarn silencers on my longbow and i shoot a pretty heavy arrow. I have yet to have a deer drop before the arrow reached them. Granted i have not killed a huge number of deer, but i have been pretty lucky with it so far.
Just got one two days ago at 22 yards broadside with a crossbow. Gave him a mmmrrpp to stop him in a shooting lane, aimed for the heart anticipating the drop. He didn't move so the bolt went clean through the heart and I had an easy recovery. You are exactly right. If he had dropped, it would've been a perfect double lung hit...
Fantastic! Congratulations! I just shot a doe last week. Never made a noise completely non-alert at about that same distance. She dropped a number of inches and I took the top of her heart out, she crashed within 50 yards!
This is super advice. I just picked up a bow yesterday for this up coming season and I think I would have made this mistake. Thanks!
Sure thing! Thanks for the comment!
As someone who has only hunted with firearms, i had never considered the deers reaction to the sound of a bow but it makes perfect sense.
Glad it helped! That was exactly the goal!
So very true.
Thank you for the advice.
I’ll be trying for the next 3 months.
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Good luck!
Super good and clear video. I have put arrows right over the back due to this reflex. Hard lesson.
Yes it is! Appreciate the comment!
I had a good mentor that told me to always aim low to where you want to hit cause of the dips they do. I've been blessed not to miss one yet but one day a deer will the the matrix move on me. Good video
It's great advice and I hope you never have to feel what I felt! Thanks for the comment!
crystal clear and simple explanation. thanks.
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the video.
My friend always says aim low from a stand or elevated position and aim where you want the arrow to exit.
Even though he preached that to me my first season I did exactly what you did. And the arrow went right over her back.
Lesson learned.
It is absolutely harder said than done. I knew better when I made this shot too, made a mental mistake. It also made me think about how many people may not realize it, which is what led us to create the video! Thanks for the comment!
@@WeekendWoodsmen it just doesn’t feel right aiming that low, especially when shooting at a regular target from flat ground.
After my first season we set up a tree stand in my friends yard to set try and mimic every scenario I ran into.
Also for learning quartering shots, I had an old target that was layered so the arrow would protrude out the back.
I placed a piece of duct tape on the backside of the target and visualize where I wanted to exit. I would practice left and right quartering shots. In doing that was amazed how far back I would have to aim to exit where I wanted.
You are doing it right! Kudos to you! Mental reps and physical reps are all incredibly important
For first timers or persons who may be wanting to get into bow this is invaluable.
That was our goal! Thanks!
the long refuted myth of "Jumping the string" This has always been an issue bowhunting. Good advice and lesson to be learned.
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I just got my 2nd buck this year with bow(1st was last year and been bow hunting 3 years). I took him at 57 yards. I did exactly this, aimed at his heart and when he dropped right before the arrow hit it smoked him double lung. He went down like a ton of bricks. No running off and died about 3' from where I shot him. He tried once to get up but it was curtains
Nice shot! Congratulations!
You are absolutely right. I’ve had the same thing happen to me and came to the same conclusion on my own. It’s good to have my theory confirmed.
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Hoping for better success this year.
Appreciate the video
Same! Thanks!
Lower third dawgy. It’s that simple, but hard to do. Thanks for sharing. Great reminder
It is so hard to do! 🤣 I literally would tell people this all the time, then I make the same mistake!
This being my first year out being a new Hunter I really appreciate this info. Finally got my bow dialed-in Dead on but without this knowledge could have had a bad shot. Truly THANK YOU!! Any tips on angles? My range finder has the angle calculator for treestand shots; however I am aware that the drop on an angle or downhill is different than shooting straight on from the ground. None of my local ranges have the capability for me to practice from a tree stand and get used to the difference in drop when shooting from an angle. And I don't have any buddies with private land in order for me to get this practice. Any tips that you or anyone in these comments can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Appreciate the comment, happy to hear we are helping!
As for the angle, we focus more on quartering to/quartering away and the advice there is focus on where you want the arrow to exit and that will take care of the entry. Be extremely conservative with quartering to shots (we rarely take them). Wait for broadside or quartering away, especially as a beginner.
For up and down angle, most bows shoot so flat these days the elevation only comes into play on shots 30 yards+ (which we don’t recommend for beginners, we rarely take them) and extremely close shots (inside 10 yards) which are also difficult to make. When they get 15 yards and in, their ability to duck the string shrinks dramatically so you can get away with aiming a bit higher to avoid a one lung (font side lung) hit if you miss the heart. Hope that helps!
Just started my 62nd season. im sure you have heard jumping the string. I've learned it depends on how close the deer is and over my years ive had to adjust form recurve to compound and now crossbow. the speed of the arrow and how close the deer is, also hunting pressure. lots of variables.
Oh yes, tons of variables! Thanks for the comment!
This is good info. Thanks for sharing this.
Sure! Thanks for the comment!
Wow WW. Things are complicated enough in the tree without having to be a one man video production unit. That was some Cecil B footage. In the meantime... I read of the shooting low thing prolly 50 years ago in Field & Stream. And never understood it, quite, until I saw your vid. The theory of the day was that it was all about the entry angle. Slowmo shows that it's more about the psychic (pshyco?) flinch. A very good and instructive vid. Thanks!
Appreciate the comment! Shot angle should come into play at close range. If the deer is close (let’s say inside 15 yards) you have to be careful about aiming low because if you miss the heart you risk a “one lung” hit by catching the front lung and exiting below the second lung. This will lead to a long or impossible recovery. At close range the deer don’t have time to react at close range so you can get away with a higher aim point to account for the steeper angle. For shots outside 15 yards, unless you are 30 feet up in the tree (which we do not recommend) the angle becomes less prominent and the deers reaction time becomes a bigger factor, so you should aim low. Hope that helps!
I’ve been aiming center mass for a while now but I won’t anymore thank you 🏹🦌👍
Glad to hear it! Good luck this year!
Took this advise this year. Took a nice 8 point right through the heart. !
Awesome! Congratulations! Thanks for the comment
Thank you for sharing video it will help been years since I hunted different videos helped me out good luck y'all hunters God Bless y'all be safe out there in the woods and again good luck 👍
Thank you! Good luck to you also!
@@WeekendWoodsmen thanks 😊
Love the video - nice job!
Thanks for the comment!