Terrible advice telling her shift up 4 times and ramming on the very first activation.... And that's not a hind sight comment, it's clearly a terrible play and y'all peer pressured her into it.
He basically took control of her turns each round. I'd get tired of someone running my turns and tweaking the positions of my pieces almost immediately. Guy with the camera obviously knows the rules well but but the game is impossible to learn or apply and shred of strategy when someone else manhandles your actions.
Love this game. I think you did the first buggy wipeout wrong. I think the FAQ says that if you can't find a proper position during a move then you don't move at all (rather than balancing on another car :) )
Couple of problems with passing the first gate. When the first car got to gate 1, the front of the car passed the center line of the gate. Per pg 40, Passing A Gate ""When any part of a vehicle touches the line of a Gate, while travelling in the correct direction, it PASSES that gate." You don't have to have the whole car pass the gate. If you touch the line after a slide, spin, wipeout, etc. that leaves you facing the wrong way, you could actually head to the next gate without having to turn around and go through the gate completely. You've passed it by touching the line. The other problem is at 19:37, where the host states that "I have pole position because I was the first one to pass the gate." This is incorrect. The rules for Death Race state that when the person that has pole positions first vehicle passes a gate, then they must choose someone other than themselves and give them pole position. So, at the start of gear phase 5, the hubby would still have pole position. Once his vehicle passes the gate, he would have to hand it off to either the host or his wife.
Couple of missed opportunities for the “slide plus spin” combo off a long straight for the maximum straight line speed in the game. :D Informally known as the “shimmy” round our way. NB: Combine with “Powerslide” perk to unlock the achievement. ;)
Thanks for the videos! Try the Zombie bash it is awesome!!!! I used the zombies from the ZOMBIES KEEP OUT game, they worked great. You should try death reaces as a normal race, 8 or oval but with machine gun turrets like a death match thrown around the track it is great fun!!
Around 25:27, y'all gave her really bad advice. She'd have been in better position from keeping the slide and spin from the original roll. Since slides are applied first, and then spins, she would have slid out of the middle of the hairpin, ending up closer to the first gate and almost perpendicular to it. Then she could apply the spin and rotate to face the gate, ending up more than a car length ahead of where she ended up from the advice. Then use the two spins to upshift twice for net 4 hazard, or once for net 3. She didn't have any hazards to start, so it would not have been must risk to do that.
I’m a bit confused. Was the grey team Mishkin or Miyazaki (you use both names throughout)? Either way, how did they have Hot Start on their cars? I thought that was a Speed perk, which neither Mishkin nor Miyazaki get access to.
This is exactly the sort of issue that the audience votes resolve. ;) I’d recommend anyone watching to add those rules in, as they really increase the fun and the balance. (The game is balanced around their inclusion).
Some questions 1: at 30:06 why do you rotate you only roles shifts 2: before 30 min the doom buggy can it fire before entering the first gate 3: Also as I understand the rules the purple car should have whipped out with the doom buggy in the beginning “If more than one vehicle wipes out in the same wipeout step, resolve the active vehicle’s wipe out first, and then resolve the remaining in clockwise order of their controllers. If a single player has two vehicles to wipe out, they may choose the order to resolve their vehicles’ wipeouts.” P29 rulebook this makes me think that if you have 6... in any whypout step you do so even if it is not your cars turn
#3 has been addressed in the errata/FAQ. It changes the rules to clearly state that what you thought is correct. At every wipeout step, all cars check for 6 or more hazards and deal with wipeout, not just the active vehicle.
Admittedly never played this game and was watching video to get a sense of what its like. But why the F did you tell her to ram in to your car and explode? I was watching thinking.... I must be missing something surely shes not just going to ram and crash? Seems a bit unfair to suggest that to her as it seemed an awful idea? Did I miss something?
Really fun episode, but the constant talking over the player's decision got a bit much in the last third or so. give them at least a moment to decide before you optimize their turn *for* them. I understand that it's all in good spirits though!
Yeah, I'm so glad Ash had 2 additional players so I could watch him play 3 different lists against himself... It really sucks to watch, because I'm sure the other players don't feel like they're really playing.
Love your Gaslands coverage. However... Rule error at 27:45 "Im going to Push it Again." You can only "push it" once. From the Rules: PUSH IT When making a skid check, after rolling the skid dice, the player may choose to PUSH IT. If a player chooses to push it, he or she may add 1 hazard token to the vehicle to pick up any number of the rolled skid dice and re-roll them. A player may only push it once during any skid check. Mistakes happen. Just mentioning it for those that might be watching trying to learn the game.
The game is just a book from Osprey wargames. Google Osprey Gaslands. There is no core set or anything. The mat is standard table top wargaming may from places like Urban Matz. Cars are painted toy cars from any store with guns and bits added from whatever bits you have from other minis or ordered online. Search Gaslands vehicle weapons. Dice and templates are from various people that laser cut stuff. Go to Gaslands.com for a list.
You kept getting the sponsors mixed up. Miyazaki is not the techno one, that's Miskin. Miyazaki is the one that is about style and daring (i.e. The Transporter movies/shows).
Interesting. You added and extra gate? Never thought of that. Some rules info: Also slipaway is only for rear end collison not T-bone and Myaski, can only get the free push the first time every game, so just once. You didn't roll votes when you passed the gate, and also the person who passed the gate must pass the pole position to another player if they have it. Also when a vehicle is put to 6 hazards due to an action by an enemy they have to wipe out, so she would have wipped out when your purple car rammed her, before she moved. Not sure why you think you cannot evade grenades?
Page 31 of the Rulebook: If the Performance car is targeted with a tailgate, T-bone or sideswipe and declares evade as its reaction it gets a free activation. Page 48 of the Rulebook: Virtuoso: The first time each vehicle in this team uses a push it IN AN ACTIVATION they may push it without gaining a hazard. (Not per game) I havent seen an FAQ lately though so those may have changed but by the rulebok they are playing those two things correct
slip away works on tailgate, t-bone or sideswipe. unless they faq'ed it after my book printing. however I do see how you could read the push it rule as one per game. That rule seems like it would be house ruled until there is an official ruling.
Don't have the book in front of me now, but will confirm when I get home. If this is the case, our group has been using slip away wrong for quite some time :) The push it rules for Myaski states the first time you push it. It doesn't say each turn or gear just push it. if you push it more than once it cannot be the first time :)
Just check the book and indeed you are correct. As long as it's not a headon and you choose to evade with performance car you can slip away. Didn't realize that, just informed my group they are stunned no one else noticed that either.
are the templates measured from the bumper or the tires? I notice the host measuring his cars from the bumper and measuring the married guests cars from the tires. very confusing and vague. is it cheating to gain 1/4" extra movement?
The rulebook states clearly that the movement template is placed parallel with the front edge of the vehicle. For the end position, it does not state it as clearly, but between what is stated and the example pictures, the vehicle should be placed with the rear bumper parallel with the end of the template, or the side parallel with it for a slide. In neither case should it be placed against the wheels. It wouldn't be much of an issue it he was placing the cars consistently for everyone, but as you pointed out, he wasn't.
@@robertkennedy4541 I believe somewhere in the rules it says everything is measured body to body. So in the case of normal movement front bumper to back bumper. I would also say excluding body accessories, etc. Otherwise putting 1" spikes on the front of the car essentially makes it faster. However this does make moving monster trucks tricky since the body is basically in the middle of giant tires. All in the all this is definitely a "spirit of the game" type rules set. So if you find someone power gaming just bounce dice off their head until they leave.
I'm sorry, I cannot watch more of this. Less than 20 minutes in and there are so many rules mistakes. You're actively hurting any new players who stumble on this. People internalize things they learn from playthrough videos. It's only a 64 page rulebook. Learn the game before you post more play videos.
Rich enlighten me on any game you have played without any mistakes? The rulebook is only 64 pages but there are several rules that aren't very clear (the writing is not the best... even the example armies are illegal per the same rulebook). Better to play and learn than not play at all. Your comment reminds me of the super competative 40k guy who attacks folks about the rules every turn lol. Relax, watch, play, and have fun dude.
The Reverse bit at 25:56 should have positioned the car's final position so that its front edge touched the far end of the template, not sit on the template as you've done. Easy enough mistake to make, as you have to skip from pg 11 to pg 15 to get the full story in the rulebook. Still exciting to watch these playthroughs I must say. Look forward to more.
lol! It is a "game" after all. Let me see if I can explain a problem I saw early without coming off an arse... (doubtful BTW): First however, it is a freaking game with Hot wheels. When we play we OFTEN make mistakes just to keep it rolling and avoid bogging down in rules debates or look-ups. BUT... I do not think you got the collision @7:00 correct. When the gray car "flips" it should turns sideways and move an ENTIRE medium strait. If this results in another collision you resolve (as you do) but it still gets to move the full medium strait; passing to clear any obstructions (I.E. the other car it hit) not 0able to pass. You resolve the collision, but you never finish her move for the roll; She would then have been in front of you guys; sideways....maybe still in contact with the other car... ... THEN after all of that THEN YOUR car gets to use the "Slip Away" (it does say "AFTER" the other car moves :) ) Well, at least as I see it. :) Collisions are the hardest part IMHO. I am darn sure of one thing is for sure no "stacking" of cars is allowed ;) ) if she had to otherwise moved the full medium strait. Party on dudes and be excellent to each other.
Over a year later and this is still fun to watch. I am on my second run through your Gaslands vids.
Terrible advice telling her shift up 4 times and ramming on the very first activation.... And that's not a hind sight comment, it's clearly a terrible play and y'all peer pressured her into it.
He basically took control of her turns each round. I'd get tired of someone running my turns and tweaking the positions of my pieces almost immediately. Guy with the camera obviously knows the rules well but but the game is impossible to learn or apply and shred of strategy when someone else manhandles your actions.
God damn I love Gaslands.
That's all. Thanks for the long vid!
That Miyazaki performance car was straight up Tokyo Drifting it the whole race, awesome!
One of the most enjoyable vids you have made Ash. Thank you to you and your guests!
Holy CRAP! Went to watch this video to learn to play the game, and dude is wearing the Slobberknocker shirt I made! Made my damn night!
I am loving the Gaslands games! Great to see you adding in another player too!
This man was just on Miniwargaming. What is this madness?! A crossing of the streams!
Love this game. I think you did the first buggy wipeout wrong. I think the FAQ says that if you can't find a proper position during a move then you don't move at all (rather than balancing on another car :) )
What a race! Love your videos!
good game, other than the very meta gamey move to tell the new player to cause that pile up right out the gate to get a slip away
This game is so fun. Turn hotwheels into mobile death machines
Carnage. Always love me some Gaslands, rules mistakes or none. 👍
Couple of problems with passing the first gate. When the first car got to gate 1, the front of the car passed the center line of the gate. Per pg 40, Passing A Gate ""When any part of a vehicle touches the line of a Gate, while travelling in the correct direction, it PASSES that gate." You don't have to have the whole car pass the gate. If you touch the line after a slide, spin, wipeout, etc. that leaves you facing the wrong way, you could actually head to the next gate without having to turn around and go through the gate completely. You've passed it by touching the line.
The other problem is at 19:37, where the host states that "I have pole position because I was the first one to pass the gate." This is incorrect. The rules for Death Race state that when the person that has pole positions first vehicle passes a gate, then they must choose someone other than themselves and give them pole position. So, at the start of gear phase 5, the hubby would still have pole position. Once his vehicle passes the gate, he would have to hand it off to either the host or his wife.
What playmat is that? I need it!
Great video! Keep up the great work Ash!
Couple of missed opportunities for the “slide plus spin” combo off a long straight for the maximum straight line speed in the game. :D Informally known as the “shimmy” round our way.
NB: Combine with “Powerslide” perk to unlock the achievement. ;)
This game is brilliant!
Thanks for the videos! Try the Zombie bash it is awesome!!!! I used the zombies from the ZOMBIES KEEP OUT game, they worked great. You should try death reaces as a normal race, 8 or oval but with machine gun turrets like a death match thrown around the track it is great fun!!
also the ones from Zombies!!! are perfect scale and really cheap too!
Around 25:27, y'all gave her really bad advice. She'd have been in better position from keeping the slide and spin from the original roll. Since slides are applied first, and then spins, she would have slid out of the middle of the hairpin, ending up closer to the first gate and almost perpendicular to it. Then she could apply the spin and rotate to face the gate, ending up more than a car length ahead of where she ended up from the advice. Then use the two spins to upshift twice for net 4 hazard, or once for net 3. She didn't have any hazards to start, so it would not have been must risk to do that.
I SO LOVE THESE VIDEOS! Waiting anxiously for the next video!
I’m a bit confused. Was the grey team Mishkin or Miyazaki (you use both names throughout)? Either way, how did they have Hot Start on their cars? I thought that was a Speed perk, which neither Mishkin nor Miyazaki get access to.
So it is Miyazaki! Good to see the clarification made in the video, but the Hot Start question remains.
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Love the report. One issue, you can't re-spawn a second vehicle RaW, is that a house rule you use? (re-spawning a second vehicle)
Yes, as otherwise in a three player two car death race; the game is basically won by the first breakaway car.
This is exactly the sort of issue that the audience votes resolve. ;) I’d recommend anyone watching to add those rules in, as they really increase the fun and the balance. (The game is balanced around their inclusion).
So, RaW is you can re-spawn any wrecked vehicle with 3 votes, not just when you have no cars left?
Some questions
1: at 30:06 why do you rotate you only roles shifts
2: before 30 min the doom buggy can it fire before entering the first gate
3: Also as I understand the rules the purple car should have whipped out with the doom buggy in the beginning
“If more than one vehicle wipes out in the same wipeout step, resolve the active vehicle’s wipe out first, and then resolve the remaining in
clockwise order of their controllers. If a single player has two vehicles to wipe out, they may choose the order to resolve their vehicles’
wipeouts.” P29 rulebook this makes me think that if you have 6... in any whypout step you do so even if it is not your cars turn
#3 has been addressed in the errata/FAQ. It changes the rules to clearly state that what you thought is correct. At every wipeout step, all cars check for 6 or more hazards and deal with wipeout, not just the active vehicle.
I love the car models they used, did you by chance get the make and type they used?
Just random Matchbox scale stuff from Walmart!
Admittedly never played this game and was watching video to get a sense of what its like. But why the F did you tell her to ram in to your car and explode? I was watching thinking.... I must be missing something surely shes not just going to ram and crash? Seems a bit unfair to suggest that to her as it seemed an awful idea? Did I miss something?
Really fun episode, but the constant talking over the player's decision got a bit much in the last third or so. give them at least a moment to decide before you optimize their turn *for* them.
I understand that it's all in good spirits though!
Yeah, I'm so glad Ash had 2 additional players so I could watch him play 3 different lists against himself...
It really sucks to watch, because I'm sure the other players don't feel like they're really playing.
Was Ken Block driving that car?
Has anyone ever asked what the base car for Roadrunner or Foghorn were? I love how they look.
I think roadrunner is an RX-7,not sure about foghorn though
how long did the session actually take? Before edit it down.
Probably 90 minutes?
Where can I find this game ? In online sites like EGYP or Dragostore I can't find it !!!
Love your Gaslands coverage.
However...
Rule error at 27:45 "Im going to Push it Again."
You can only "push it" once.
From the Rules:
PUSH IT
When making a skid check, after rolling the skid dice, the player may choose to PUSH IT.
If a player chooses to push it, he or she may add 1 hazard token to the vehicle to pick up any number of the rolled skid dice and re-roll them.
A player may only push it once during any skid check.
Mistakes happen. Just mentioning it for those that might be watching trying to learn the game.
Miyazaki sponsored teams can with "Chrome-Whisperer", but I think he was playing Mishkin...
Gaslands!!! Love these videos!
Witness!
Exactly how my first DeathRace looked like😉 I played Miyazaki too!
Btw Miyazaki being the guy who created Dark Souls, remember his Name!!!😂
Is the terrain mat giìven with the main core set of the game or is it handmade by you and your team ?
The game is just a book from Osprey wargames. Google Osprey Gaslands. There is no core set or anything. The mat is standard table top wargaming may from places like Urban Matz. Cars are painted toy cars from any store with guns and bits added from whatever bits you have from other minis or ordered online. Search Gaslands vehicle weapons. Dice and templates are from various people that laser cut stuff. Go to Gaslands.com for a list.
Thank you @@johnmiddleton4291 !!! Your infos are what I wanted and searched for... Thanks alot for the links too...
@@Eurodance_Groove You are very welcome. Happy I could help you out.
Any interest in trying out Dropzone Commander?
Need to fire your personal weapons at each other.
Why does he always ignore vehicles hes already touching? If you drive through it, it should just be another collision...?
You ignore obstructions and vehicles you begin a Gear Step in contact with for the purposes of movement. Check the collisions section of the rulebook.
You kept getting the sponsors mixed up. Miyazaki is not the techno one, that's Miskin. Miyazaki is the one that is about style and daring (i.e. The Transporter movies/shows).
Interesting. You added and extra gate? Never thought of that. Some rules info: Also slipaway is only for rear end collison not T-bone and Myaski, can only get the free push the first time every game, so just once. You didn't roll votes when you passed the gate, and also the person who passed the gate must pass the pole position to another player if they have it. Also when a vehicle is put to 6 hazards due to an action by an enemy they have to wipe out, so she would have wipped out when your purple car rammed her, before she moved. Not sure why you think you cannot evade grenades?
Page 31 of the Rulebook:
If the Performance car is targeted with a tailgate, T-bone or sideswipe and declares evade as its reaction it gets a free activation.
Page 48 of the Rulebook:
Virtuoso: The first time each vehicle in this team uses a push it IN AN ACTIVATION they may push it without gaining a hazard. (Not per game)
I havent seen an FAQ lately though so those may have changed but by the rulebok they are playing those two things correct
slip away works on tailgate, t-bone or sideswipe. unless they faq'ed it after my book printing. however I do see how you could read the push it rule as one per game. That rule seems like it would be house ruled until there is an official ruling.
Don't have the book in front of me now, but will confirm when I get home. If this is the case, our group has been using slip away wrong for quite some time :) The push it rules for Myaski states the first time you push it. It doesn't say each turn or gear just push it. if you push it more than once it cannot be the first time :)
Jeremy Barnhill That's why I use performance cars with virtuoso... rerolls are crazy good without gaining hazards.
Just check the book and indeed you are correct. As long as it's not a headon and you choose to evade with performance car you can slip away. Didn't realize that, just informed my group they are stunned no one else noticed that either.
are the templates measured from the bumper or the tires? I notice the host measuring his cars from the bumper and measuring the married guests cars from the tires. very confusing and vague. is it cheating to gain 1/4" extra movement?
The rulebook states clearly that the movement template is placed parallel with the front edge of the vehicle. For the end position, it does not state it as clearly, but between what is stated and the example pictures, the vehicle should be placed with the rear bumper parallel with the end of the template, or the side parallel with it for a slide. In neither case should it be placed against the wheels. It wouldn't be much of an issue it he was placing the cars consistently for everyone, but as you pointed out, he wasn't.
@@robertkennedy4541 I believe somewhere in the rules it says everything is measured body to body. So in the case of normal movement front bumper to back bumper. I would also say excluding body accessories, etc. Otherwise putting 1" spikes on the front of the car essentially makes it faster. However this does make moving monster trucks tricky since the body is basically in the middle of giant tires. All in the all this is definitely a "spirit of the game" type rules set. So if you find someone power gaming just bounce dice off their head until they leave.
Better hope taking his name in vain doesn’t karma against you.
Representation! It would be great if you could feature more women gamers on your channel, show the hobby isn't just dudes.
I dislike the "respawn" car effects...
I'm sorry, I cannot watch more of this. Less than 20 minutes in and there are so many rules mistakes. You're actively hurting any new players who stumble on this. People internalize things they learn from playthrough videos. It's only a 64 page rulebook. Learn the game before you post more play videos.
The first thing I think in the morning is; ‘how can I make a video that actively hurts the viewer.’
What were the mistakes?
Care to elaborate?
Rich enlighten me on any game you have played without any mistakes? The rulebook is only 64 pages but there are several rules that aren't very clear (the writing is not the best... even the example armies are illegal per the same rulebook). Better to play and learn than not play at all.
Your comment reminds me of the super competative 40k guy who attacks folks about the rules every turn lol. Relax, watch, play, and have fun dude.
The Reverse bit at 25:56 should have positioned the car's final position so that its front edge touched the far end of the template, not sit on the template as you've done. Easy enough mistake to make, as you have to skip from pg 11 to pg 15 to get the full story in the rulebook.
Still exciting to watch these playthroughs I must say. Look forward to more.
lol! It is a "game" after all. Let me see if I can explain a problem I saw early without coming off an arse... (doubtful BTW): First however, it is a freaking game with Hot wheels. When we play we OFTEN make mistakes just to keep it rolling and avoid bogging down in rules debates or look-ups.
BUT... I do not think you got the collision @7:00 correct.
When the gray car "flips" it should turns sideways and move an ENTIRE medium strait. If this results in another collision you resolve (as you do) but it still gets to move the full medium strait; passing to clear any obstructions (I.E. the other car it hit) not 0able to pass. You resolve the collision, but you never finish her move for the roll; She would then have been in front of you guys; sideways....maybe still in contact with the other car... ... THEN after all of that THEN YOUR car gets to use the "Slip Away" (it does say "AFTER" the other car moves :) ) Well, at least as I see it. :)
Collisions are the hardest part IMHO.
I am darn sure of one thing is for sure no "stacking" of cars is allowed ;) ) if she had to otherwise moved the full medium strait.
Party on dudes and be excellent to each other.