How GOOD were Togetic & Togekiss ACTUALLY? - History of Togetic & Togekiss in Competitive Pokemon

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  • TOGETIC & TOGEKISS! The Happiness Pokemon! These pokemon may siphon pure joy from people but how good were they actually in competitive battling? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Togetic and Togekiss in Competitive Pokemon!
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    Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
    To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
    To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
    For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming  5 ปีที่แล้ว +653

    Whoops! We missed a major placement! Jamie Boyt placed 1st with Togetic in the Northern England Regionals! Major Apologies
    th-cam.com/video/guyMNTQrQ1o/w-d-xo.html

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Togekiss was 3rd & 6th in VGC 2010 according to this i.redd.it/xhr08g2ka4sz.jpg

    • @jaylogik4020
      @jaylogik4020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No hyper beam mention. The damage was ridiculous with choice specs (timid nature) or choice scarf (modest nature) which made him a nice revenge killer

    • @stevejobs8820
      @stevejobs8820 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      False Swipe Gaming do slaking

    • @dru4111
      @dru4111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video made me Flinch.

    • @jaylogik4020
      @jaylogik4020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ARTEM DORDZHIEV uh... no

  • @deltawarrior2323
    @deltawarrior2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    focus blast with 70% accuracy:
    *misses literally the entire time*
    Iron head/air slash plus serene grace buff making it have a 60% to flinch:
    *flinches you until you fall over and die*

  • @pro2gamer
    @pro2gamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1133

    Togepy sucks the joy of people.
    *_WELL THAT EXPLAINS THE PARAFLINCH_*

    • @mykittystinksbad2
      @mykittystinksbad2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Fulken You get more and more enraged as you get paraflinched everyturn thus you slowing losing joy...that's why Togekiss is always smiling...

    • @Breakaway-ic5gj
      @Breakaway-ic5gj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Why are all of these cute fairies always the most annoying ones ?

    • @axlr8deathpls294
      @axlr8deathpls294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Breakaway-ic5gj Dont talk about my guildmaster wigglytuff that way

    • @togepipi
      @togepipi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Breakaway-ic5gj Togepi (Translation) Hey!

  • @zetagammafigma8212
    @zetagammafigma8212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    "Well, Togetic f**king sucked." I laughed out loud.

    • @guymathias3697
      @guymathias3697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I HATE YOU!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

    • @metest465
      @metest465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Guy Mathias chill pill

    • @guymathias3697
      @guymathias3697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I AM NO HATER OF TOGETIC!

    • @guymathias2604
      @guymathias2604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      guys, calm down. i think there is a good solution why Togetic was bad. I love Togetic!

    • @lastofall3555
      @lastofall3555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Guy Mathias bruh no one asked.

  • @pacoramon9468
    @pacoramon9468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1467

    And in Sword and Shield, it's one of the best pokémon in the entire game.

    • @jeonghan2493
      @jeonghan2493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Why though (i didn't play sword and shield)

    • @whenthe8512
      @whenthe8512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Well only for vgc

    • @whenthe8512
      @whenthe8512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +212

      @@jeonghan2493 Best support pokemon, can also be run offensively and very well rounded

    • @_lostglory
      @_lostglory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      Where to start..
      For one, it gets access to follow me, great typing, insanely high flinch rates with Air slash and serene grace. Now gets access to super luck, which combined with a razor claw or scope lens means it has a 50% crit rate. It is an all around insane support pokemon, second to maybe dusclops. It can fend for itself very easily, and can shut down threats with air slash flinches.

    • @13thKingMu
      @13thKingMu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@whenthe8512 seriously,they need to nerf serene grace but not too much like how OU pokemon got nerf from broken to not very good

  • @andrewcather8949
    @andrewcather8949 6 ปีที่แล้ว +788

    One thing: there was a unique Togepi that you could get in XD Gale of Darkness that was guaranteed to have Tri-Attack. When combined with a high SA Togekiss + Serene Grace and Silk Scarf, it's a pretty nasty combo even without the original STAB it got from the normal typing. Very rare nowadays, but totally legit.

    • @joshurlay
      @joshurlay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I can't imagine it would have been something special for Gen 3 but Gen 4 would have made it awesome

    • @Dave_Chrome
      @Dave_Chrome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I remember that! But I think I traded it for Elekid in the same game haha

    • @grahamready1065
      @grahamready1065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      As an update to this, I just found out that Togepi and Togetic can actually learn Tri Attack as a TR in Sword and Shield. It seems to be one of the standard awards for Max Raid Battles in a lot of places within the Wild Area, so this combo is significantly easier to get your hands on now, even if it doesn't have stab anymore.

    • @Jose0421
      @Jose0421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Galaspark Lol.. Might be some type of glitch right there.

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now, togepi/togetic/togekiss can learn Tri-Attack. Plus serene grace and silk scarf...

  • @FrankencubeGaming
    @FrankencubeGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    I barely even play competitively but for some reason I still love tuning into this show every week. It’s just super chill to listen to.

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I've never played competitively, but this is pretty interesting to hear.

    • @oliverdavies5233
      @oliverdavies5233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr

    • @angry-blackguy
      @angry-blackguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I unironically listen to this for playthroughs

    • @INeedARadioTower
      @INeedARadioTower 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im glad im not the only one

    • @AKOverkill
      @AKOverkill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too lol

  • @merashow2518
    @merashow2518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Togekiss landing and sitting down feels like a cursed image

    • @MarioFan587YT
      @MarioFan587YT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      But it's so cuuuute

    • @blayjay
      @blayjay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was literally my favorite thing in gen 4. Using roost, it's so cute. 🥺

  • @babydevil_X
    @babydevil_X 4 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Togekiss is now in top usage in VGC with Incineroar in SwSh. How the tides turn

    • @_lostglory
      @_lostglory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Far more usage than Incineroar, it is probably the best pokemon in the format.

    • @darkness74185
      @darkness74185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      When you can be a sweeper, flincher, healer and a pure support all at once, and a good number of competitors of your job weren't invited to the party, you're bound to rule the scene pretty hard

    • @mortomultiverse8778
      @mortomultiverse8778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@darkness74185 dont forget the 50% of crit in every attack he do

    • @Theofficialtino
      @Theofficialtino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How the turn tables

    • @jenisia3600
      @jenisia3600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How the turn tables

  • @divian22
    @divian22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +467

    the real question here is, how good was to-gi-prweeeeeeeeeeee

  • @Eichro
    @Eichro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    "Extremely lucky with Metronome" you mean "Self-Destruct every time it uses Metronome"?

    • @sammyjammy8709
      @sammyjammy8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The first time it used self destruct was like
      Ash *almost loses*
      Togepi: BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

    • @eghiezenmarasigan7760
      @eghiezenmarasigan7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sad purplecliffe noises*

    • @sammyjammy8709
      @sammyjammy8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eghiezenmarasigan7760 TOGEPI IS A BEAST..... *IMMEDIATELY EXPLODES*

    • @eghiezenmarasigan7760
      @eghiezenmarasigan7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sammyjammy8709 you dont get it do you?

    • @pumpkin6192
      @pumpkin6192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude,I remember losing mine to a explosion from Metronome.
      Never gonna use Metronome in a nuzlocke

  • @zacharymohammadi
    @zacharymohammadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    Clefable: I’m the most annoying Pokémon
    Blissey: No I am
    ???: amateurs
    Blissey: what’s that punk?
    ???: i said
    Togekiss: AMATEURS

    • @noahgee7452
      @noahgee7452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zachary Mohammadi underrated comment

    • @MrMarsFromEarth
      @MrMarsFromEarth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Jirachi: Allow me to introduce myself

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was painfully annoying in DPPHGSS OU if you didn't have an electric type like Zapdos or Jolteon and it was a special attacker that could power through Blissey with Nasty Plot and some luck (no Life Orb needed either).

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the odds of escaping thunder wave and air slash is
      (1/2)*(2/5)=1/5
      that is 20%

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then Garchomp with king's rock / iron head lol He says hello lol

  • @jaretco6423
    @jaretco6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Togekiss was such an monster. Despite how it looks, it don't mean a thing when it's an threat in battle. Also, smart choice for given Togetic an new evolution.

  • @Trey-wl5mx
    @Trey-wl5mx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    How GOOD were Gligar & Gliscor ACTUALLY?

  • @probablydylan3622
    @probablydylan3622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    I really thought the "How good are Ice types actually" was a good video so, could you possibly do another episode a specific type? If I had to pick one if would probably be ground but I really just think that any typing would be great as long as we get another type video.

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Okay from competitive perspective over the gens... Rhydon, Dugtrio, Marowak, Gligar and scor, Swampert/Gastro, Garchomp, Excadrill, Mudsdale, everyones favourite lover and hater we all know Landorus. Finally last but not least theres always chance of Primal Groudon impaling tectonic blades all up in yo ass...

    • @mikeJRthe2nd
      @mikeJRthe2nd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly I want to see his Gen 1 explained Part 3 video before he does another type.

    • @mechamage
      @mechamage 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea bring blunder back

    • @jerryhan4563
      @jerryhan4563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      fire or dragon type!

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A water move on a Storm Drainer with Desolate Land?? Seriously, why have you got more likes when your pointing an obvious cliché except missing my points?

  • @optimisticcharizard602
    @optimisticcharizard602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    2:00 CRAP! Crobat looked horrific! And I thought Venusaur's blood shot eyes where bad!

    • @lav9831
      @lav9831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Optimistic Charizard so much for optimistic...

    • @goldenexperiencerequiem4714
      @goldenexperiencerequiem4714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Nah venusaur’s just high

    • @Jewgoo
      @Jewgoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Ever thought Venusaur might be allergic to itself?

    • @HannibalKantter
      @HannibalKantter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Why did they thought it would be great to make a 3d hyperrealistic face for Crobat? Ffs

    • @tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu
      @tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jewgoo Or he smoked the good stuff

  • @vincentsissom4180
    @vincentsissom4180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I am interested in seeing Weezing get the spotlight. An interesting Type Tank.

    • @christopheralvarado4544
      @christopheralvarado4544 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vincent Sissom Been having lots of fun with him in PU recently. Great fun. Pair a max hp and defence weezing w a assault vest lanturn and you can take hits for days.

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love me using some Weezing.

  • @Ansemthewise59
    @Ansemthewise59 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I just want to say that this is my absolute favorite show! The format, the presentation, the history, and learning is really awesome. I often go back to Pokemon who I used before after watching an episode and make different sets with them. Great job with this show!

    • @raphaelkhoury218
      @raphaelkhoury218 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ansemthewise59 great ! Ot's a joy to see that this show reminds us of the road of pokemons through the generatioms and how they used to function ! 😍😍😍😍😉

  • @skibot9974
    @skibot9974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I’m surprised that in Gen 4 and Gen 5 nobody tried using Tri Attack on Togekiss. If you don’t know in Pokémon XD there’s a Shadow Togepi that knows Tri Attack and you can transfer it to a GBA game after clearing the story.
    If you then transferred it to Gen 4 you could evolve it into Togekiss. It would be Special Normal STAB that thanks to Serene grace would give a 40% chance to cause either burning, paralysis or freezing

    • @kylepua3469
      @kylepua3469 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Someone tried using this on Pokémon Showdown, and lemme tell you, 40% FREEZE is fucked up.

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kylepua3469 did somebody see my comment?
      Also it’s technically only 13.33% chance of freezing specifically it’s just a 40% chance of inflicting a status condition

  • @nintendosega100
    @nintendosega100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    And now Togekiss is reigning supreme in SwSh as one of the best Pokémon in the game.

    • @mid7752
      @mid7752 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As one who uses Choice Scarf Togekiss, I can confirm that.

    • @jambon2730
      @jambon2730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mid7752 now he's in ru ... Along with really good pokemon like porygon...
      What happened?

    • @realmdarkness
      @realmdarkness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jambon2730 Crown Tundra power creep

    • @navanithkrishnan7177
      @navanithkrishnan7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dracofish
      Fishius rend

    • @Light_2461
      @Light_2461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jambon2730 DLC

  • @HazmanFTW
    @HazmanFTW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +553

    How GOOD was Ditto ACTUALLY?

    • @xander5733
      @xander5733 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Harry good........alot

    • @nathanmccarthy8976
      @nathanmccarthy8976 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Good alot yeah that's correct English

    • @clairaragon2881
      @clairaragon2881 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would actually like to see this.

    • @JustAnotherVolg
      @JustAnotherVolg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Do this for April Fools day

    • @sonofulti1859
      @sonofulti1859 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There's not enough to talk about. It was only good with it's imposter ability. It's only as good as the pokemon it transforms into. Done.

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How good was *Jolteon* actually? (Egg-cellent video, BTW.)

    • @kbuckets9060
      @kbuckets9060 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't get it

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't you notice all the egg puns in the video?

  • @rodchaccur
    @rodchaccur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    Well, time for a Sword and Shield update cause VGC smelling like togekiss

  • @doukyuuseii99
    @doukyuuseii99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Togekiss is by far my favorite pokemon; I went through the trouble to find a shiny togepi in generation 4 so I could have a togekiss with silver wind, nobody ever expects it.

  • @RichieGonzo
    @RichieGonzo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    15th time's the charm.
    Gligar and Gliscor pls

  • @galactic1555
    @galactic1555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    How GOOD were Gligar and Gliscor ACTUALLY?

    • @frankienerdyboy
      @frankienerdyboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ga lactic plz man we need this vid

  • @originalJoeKing
    @originalJoeKing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I always thought it was funny that Togepi hatches from an egg to still be inside of one.

  • @trash_boat_64
    @trash_boat_64 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I appreciate all the hard working videos you guys do and enjoy them! Keep up the good work!!

  • @probablydylan3622
    @probablydylan3622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    How GOOD were Ground Types ACTUALLY?

  • @TheNorth15
    @TheNorth15 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Who here remembers Gold's Togepi, Togebo, the savage alcoholic chain-smoking gambling bruise-knuckled Togepi that absolutely destroyed Silver's Tyranitar in Pokemon Adventures

    • @Pokepig812
      @Pokepig812 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol I remember

    • @TheNorth15
      @TheNorth15 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I still remember Togepi playing poker. Togepi mimicking Gold's personality was hilarious.

    • @danieljones3943
      @danieljones3943 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ever watched Pokemon Golder, the video parody? I think that Gold and his psycho Togetic/Togekiss is based on Gold and Togebo from Pokemon Adventures.

  • @darkfire1234
    @darkfire1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you do tremendous work fsg. Please keep up the good work

  • @snecolsslocens7498
    @snecolsslocens7498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your content has always been consistently solid, but this video was excellent! Felt very polished. Keep up the good work!

  • @somalianpirate7305
    @somalianpirate7305 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    History of Pikachu in Competitive Super Smash Bros. (Preferably Fox, for he had quite a history in Smash. But let's keep up the Pokemon theme.)

    • @vegetavsluigi
      @vegetavsluigi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Somalian Pirate History of Fox is quite easy: He was great in 64, he dominated Melee, he was okay in Brawl but Brawl was cancer anyway, and he’s great in 4.
      As for Pikachu: Dominated 64, pretty good in Melee (and even got a clone), wasn’t all too spectacular in Brawl, and is pretty good in 4, but only has one real representative in Esam.

  • @sealandrelevant1310
    @sealandrelevant1310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm not about to give up on GRASS TYPES!!! (Are we serious that Venusaur is still the only one ever covered?!) I insist on what I said last time! How GOOD was Celebi ACTUALLY?

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too! Vileplume/Bellossom please!

    • @MC_Seto
      @MC_Seto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Breloom!

  • @AzoiatheCobra
    @AzoiatheCobra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    me at gen 4 battle net
    "why do my friends hate to play agaisnt me?"
    remember that i had a serene grace team with a stealth rock lead aerodactyl - special wall blissey with softboil, minimize, thunder bolt and ice beam, dunsparce with ancient power, headbutt and glare, iron head jirachi, air slash togekiss, and sky shaymin.......´
    "oooooh right.... but i stopped using that and they still hated me"
    remember the onslaught that my double team blizard brigthpowder glaceon threw on them under an abomasnow hail...
    "damn i was a dick"
    remember that i recently swept one of them with a level 1 prankster cottone when we did a remember...
    "GOD IM STILL A DICK"

  • @Poondaedalin
    @Poondaedalin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know some people despise this Pokemon competitively because of Paraflinch, but as a playthrough Pokemon, it's one of the best they've ever made. I love the huggable fairy airplane

  • @arthurhalcyon7410
    @arthurhalcyon7410 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Let's get another How Good Was _____ Type ACTUALLY vid!

  • @pokestar2337
    @pokestar2337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    How good was PINSIR actually

  • @TheUKNutter
    @TheUKNutter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    So many egg puns. EGGstraordinary.

    • @redtiger5586
      @redtiger5586 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheUKNutter I

    • @vffbgx616
      @vffbgx616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eggcellent

    • @abookwas9170
      @abookwas9170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eggxactly

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I stopped watching this channel after he tried to damage control my friends by stealing their content as his own. This was an interesting reminder of what I used to see though.

    • @abookwas9170
      @abookwas9170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheUKNutter nani

  • @homelesstogreatness6626
    @homelesstogreatness6626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I'm having ptsd from serene grace + paraflinch + missing my rockslide when I was finally able to move.

    • @spazerdazer8421
      @spazerdazer8421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      When you decide to roll with rockslide over stone edge for the better accuracy and still miss.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can attest to the Serene Grace flinches. Swept so many teams with Nasty Plot. Parahax support too.

    • @yee6870
      @yee6870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rip king

  • @FeraligatrKirbyEric27
    @FeraligatrKirbyEric27 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Can you do "How good was Feraligatr ACTUALLY" next Please!? I've wanted this for so long!!

    • @Jabeke49
      @Jabeke49 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He sucked

    • @justinbowman1342
      @justinbowman1342 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can't handle the truth.

    • @suezuccati304
      @suezuccati304 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I THINK there's already a video for that pokemon

    • @FeraligatrKirbyEric27
      @FeraligatrKirbyEric27 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      「Jᴀʙᴇᴋᴇ49」
      Sheer Force Life Orb boosted STAB Liquidation and Ice Punch for Grass, Dragon and Flying coverage with Dragon Dance and Earthquake for Electric and Steel coverage says otherwise. Unfortunately, Feraligatr will still take Life Orb damage with Earthquake.

    • @FeraligatrKirbyEric27
      @FeraligatrKirbyEric27 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KennyJoão Metaleiro
      No there isn't. I haven't seen a Feraligatr video yet.

  • @matthewmcmullen9099
    @matthewmcmullen9099 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Please Please Do Marowak Next Episode

    • @Huyverwoud
      @Huyverwoud 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew Mcmullen yes

    • @Fishimus
      @Fishimus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Highest potential attack stat in the game? Yes please!

  • @allewis4008
    @allewis4008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh the egg puns! Great vid, Togekiss is one cool (and cool looking) little mon!

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this thing grow from such humble roots was actually quite incredible.

  • @zaza445
    @zaza445 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Those egg puns *crack me up*

  • @lizerdspherex
    @lizerdspherex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Togekiss: The little stealth bomber that could.

  • @rezrider21
    @rezrider21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love that Togetic got an evo! And a useful one at that. The typing change helped too.

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah alot of people hate Gen 4 because of additional evolutions and not liking their designs but honestly at least you can use these Pokémon. You can't convince me that Togetic or Murkrow didn't need an evolution.

    • @rezrider21
      @rezrider21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smart1529 right! Even the humanoid 1 stage pokes like Magmar and Electabuzz got a nice evolution.

    • @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399
      @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everyone be hating about how the evolutions be ugly but what if weavile didn't exist

    • @soulblazer2392
      @soulblazer2392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Smart1529 Yeah. A lot of gen 2 mons were really trash, so an evolution to them were very necessary.

  • @GwyndolinSimp
    @GwyndolinSimp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My reaction when I see a Togekiss now and my mon is slower: *"Oh no"*

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or weak to Fairy or Flying

  • @albertbatres7673
    @albertbatres7673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    How good was S H E D I N J A actually? Please I'm begging you

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Albert Batres That'll probably be the April Fool's day analysis.

    • @ChillavaKirby
      @ChillavaKirby 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Boxer That'd actually be really funny I hope he does that

    • @lambdapegasus9535
      @lambdapegasus9535 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Albert Batres to be honest, pretty terrible actually, yeah Wonder guard is pretty good but...yeah the ONLY thing it has that is good is Wonder guard, the rest...is fucking awful, it's stats, it's movepool, and 90 base attack is pretty pathetic, faster and stronger ghost types outclassed it like Gengar (and it's Mega), Froslass and Mismagius, and ghost types that can take hits like Dusclops with Eviolite, Dusknoir, Cofagrigus and Mega Sableye, let's not forget that status, weather, and Pokemon with Mold breaker, Turbo blaze and Terra volt can destroy Shedinja, also entry hazards like Spikes, Toxic spikes and Stealth rock can kill it as well, a Pokemon holding a Toxic Orb, Flame Orb, Black sludge and Sticky barb can use Trick on Shedinja and kill it with those items, last but not least, if Shedinja is a physical attacker, it can KO itself if it hits Pokemon holding a Rocky helmet or if it has Rough skin or Iron barbs, with all that said, Shedinja is in NU

    • @yungtrashlord
      @yungtrashlord 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      also annoying af when your pokemon does not have moves that can take care of it

  • @bidyogames
    @bidyogames 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    How good was Muk ACTUALLY

  • @BrandonPlaysStuff
    @BrandonPlaysStuff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    2:12 "Unfortunately for Togekiss" when we look at Togetic.

  • @GamingG4276
    @GamingG4276 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At first I did not like the Togepi line that much, but I started to grow fond of it after I learned to appreciate Fairy types.

  • @pedrodetzel4202
    @pedrodetzel4202 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Weezing plz! Such an overlooked pokemon and was such a beast in the old days!

  • @espenmauseth1284
    @espenmauseth1284 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    How good was *Metagross* my man? Been waiting for that vid my entire life.

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Togetic actually hasn’t been in the lowest tier in recent gens, largely because of the introduction of Eviolite. It’s movepool has expanded along with Togekiss’s, and it can also pull off a good Paraflinch set, especially with its good typing and Eviolite-boosted defenses. It’s speed also isn’t as much of a problem thanks to it’s increased bulk and the fact that it’s in a lower tier. As far as I can remember it’s in either RU or NU (though I think it’s NU because RU is full of walls who don’t care about air slash and clerics who can clear paralyzation as of now)

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Togetic can't learn Air Slash though. Ability wise, it would probably get more out of Super Luck unless it ran Fire coverage or wanted Soft-Boiled.

    • @jamesdinius7769
      @jamesdinius7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gengarzilla1685 Two words. Tri Attack

  • @toddpeters2611
    @toddpeters2611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see this video updated like some of his other older videos

  • @PapaTaurean
    @PapaTaurean 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    How good was Gligar and Gliscor? Also... Poor Togekiss... just doesn't get too many tools to play with. Cute though.

    • @SonKunSama
      @SonKunSama 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      - Scarf Air Slash
      - Leftovers Roost + Nasty Plot + 2 attacks
      - Life Orb Nasty Plot
      - Bulky Specs
      - Thunder Wave + Air Slash
      - Body Slam + Air Slash
      - Heal Bell + Wish support
      - Toxic stall
      - Substitute + Nasty Plot
      What are you saying? This is one of the most versatile Pokémon. Oh yeah, it also gets Defog these days.

    • @elitepro7487
      @elitepro7487 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scipio Africanus it had defog in gen 6

    • @CharroArgentino
      @CharroArgentino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Togekiss only problem is that it can't run everything. It's versatile as fuck.

  • @krspaceT1
    @krspaceT1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Exeggutor, Exeggutor, Oddish. I'm honestly curious where Exeggutor turned from top line to....whatever it is now a days.

  • @deandregreene2587
    @deandregreene2587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Stat wise: (If Togekiss were to receive a Mega Evolution)
    Type: Fairy/Flying
    HP: 85 >>> 85 (0)
    Attack: 50 >>> 40 (-10)
    Defense: 95 >>> 125 (+30)
    Special Attack: 120 >>> 145 (+25)
    Special Defense: 115 >>> 135 (+20)
    Speed: 80 >>> 115 (+35)
    Potential Abilities: Regenerator, Serene Grace, Magic Guard, Gale Wings, Pixilate, Fur Coat, Soul-Heart

    • @Umayyasupremacy
      @Umayyasupremacy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yuckk 🤢🤢🤢, imagine the rage quits

    • @thebravegallade731
      @thebravegallade731 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Umayyasupremacy I mean, with regeneratior its just a good setup sweeper.
      if it kept serene grace tho...

    • @gamechanger700
      @gamechanger700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be already broken

  • @johnalas6877
    @johnalas6877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eagerly await these every Sunday! I vote for "How good was the Grass type actually" for next week

  • @Eggs5232
    @Eggs5232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Will we see another type analysis soon? The Ice video is my favourite of yours.

  • @blazie42069
    @blazie42069 6 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    How GOOD were BUG types actually?!?! I want this video because everybody thinks bug types are weak. BUT ARE THEY? Like this comment if you want the video to be a thing!!!

    • @pepeknight
      @pepeknight 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      DankestOverlord The only good bug types are Heracross, Scizor, Forretress and Mega Beedril (probably there are a couple more, but these bugs what came to my head). Special mention goes to Ninjask due to it being on baton pass teams until Scolipede outclassed it as a Speed Passer.

    • @drite7758
      @drite7758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      MD3 Fan mega pinsir bro

    • @drite7758
      @drite7758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MD3 Fan and feromossa

    • @drite7758
      @drite7758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      also genesect

    • @drite7758
      @drite7758 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      including volcarona and buzzwole

  • @deathserpent9747
    @deathserpent9747 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youve got me eggcited for the next video

  • @thecarpenter6420
    @thecarpenter6420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oooh, the metronome battles... So many good moments!

  • @carlosarce4061
    @carlosarce4061 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Aggron! How good was Aggron ACTUALLY?

  • @Onion_57
    @Onion_57 6 ปีที่แล้ว +288

    How good were Tangela and Tangrowth?

    • @bobtheslob9001
      @bobtheslob9001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Antonio Morales Yes!

    • @raphaelkhoury218
      @raphaelkhoury218 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Antonio Morales yass! 😍😍😍😍😉

    • @kokichiouma5286
      @kokichiouma5286 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You're kidding me, i been asking this for months but when someone else does it blows up lol

    • @RichieGonzo
      @RichieGonzo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kokichi Ouma Same for me lol. Been asking for Gligar/Gliscor and that happened last vid lmao.

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ahve been asking for this for like 2 months lol

  • @keionbradley4254
    @keionbradley4254 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m glad you got cloyster, he’s my fav but I wasn’t aware that he was this good! Now I wanna see how good swalot is

  • @Liam-uh5fh
    @Liam-uh5fh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a really good video!

  • @davidmuhs4590
    @davidmuhs4590 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    how good was you actually?

  • @ivolloxy3030
    @ivolloxy3030 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Clefable!!! How GOOD was Clefable ACTUALLY?

    • @Ditto-ib5xv
      @Ditto-ib5xv 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've literally been preaching for this for 2 months!

    • @ivolloxy3030
      @ivolloxy3030 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto1396 LOL Same

  • @Dawn_of_the_Dan
    @Dawn_of_the_Dan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran a surprise mixed Togekiss in Gen 5. Hustle ability, max attack and special attack with Extreme Speed, Brick Break, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball. Assisted by a Baton Passer with Hone Claws/Swords Dance.

  • @SnowWhiteTheU2
    @SnowWhiteTheU2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Togepi is my favorite Pokémon still to this day. And so glad to see that he made a massive comeback in sword and shield and is one of the best in the game when evolved to Togekiss. You should update that

  • @xx_v_xx4373
    @xx_v_xx4373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How good was Exeggutor ACTUALLY?

  • @tobymacintosh7249
    @tobymacintosh7249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I hate how all the comment's are people asking for new mons and not how good ur vids are keep up the good work FSG!

    • @allewis4008
      @allewis4008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I make it a point to say these vids are awesome, even the egg jokes on this one!

    • @wolololer
      @wolololer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah literaly every coment is about the next video no1 cares to talk about the video they just watch
      its our society always lookign for the future and forgeting the present

  • @TicTac2
    @TicTac2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you didn't tell us Togekiss' base stats when you introduced it. but it's only a small thing, keep up with the great videos

  • @gokutilapa
    @gokutilapa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    You forgot Eviolite Togetic, it’s actually really good.

    • @whiteamericanmale7392
      @whiteamericanmale7392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      It's actually really bad

    • @abrahamgonzales1888
      @abrahamgonzales1888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It’s pretty bad,only decent defensively,but even in that it’s stats are so bad

    • @gamechanger700
      @gamechanger700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Even if it's defensive stats are great,support moveset is lackluster

    • @qingpetcher667
      @qingpetcher667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Goku Dragon it’s good I placed 14 in a tournament with it on my tesm

    • @filthypenguintv4931
      @filthypenguintv4931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's so amazing! It's what I used to beat the Super Double Battles in the ORAS Battle Maison

  • @pokeworks1
    @pokeworks1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pretty please can we have a How good were gligar and gliscor actually ?!!

  • @guildmasterri5995
    @guildmasterri5995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    do gligar/gliscor next

  • @TDIdialgagirl
    @TDIdialgagirl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Joy Dust" does sound like a drug

  • @fav9619
    @fav9619 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man we need another updated version of this video.

  • @axelsarchive4301
    @axelsarchive4301 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How good was Jolteon actually?

  • @Jacob-nr9iv
    @Jacob-nr9iv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    How good was Ninetales??????????

    • @mattoguy7939
      @mattoguy7939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jacob 070503
      Good idea brother.

    • @andreivaldez6713
      @andreivaldez6713 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bad until generation 5 when it got Drought, then mediocre in gen 6 with the weather nerf, then finally mediocre again in gen 7 with instant Hail and Aurora Veil with it resting in Borderline - too good for UnderUsed but not used enough to be considered OverUsed - currently.

    • @killu2later
      @killu2later 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it was decent in gen 1 because it had over 100 special and decent speed.

    • @jiabryant533
      @jiabryant533 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      killu2later Still fire was not a good type in gen 1. And why play ninetails over the other fire types. All ninetails is a mediocre pokemon till gen 5 where it was only good for its ability and when that got nerf. At least it alolan form pretty good.

  • @pablojams5152
    @pablojams5152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering for the remake on this one, this thing is absolutely everywhere in Gen 8 VGC

  • @Shivan_16
    @Shivan_16 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video as usual! Keep up the good work boss! Maybe for your next video consider how GOOD was Aggron ACTUALLY? Thanks for all your hard work! :D

  • @ScottOctober
    @ScottOctober 6 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Puns are top notch in this one.😃

    • @flyestskeleman
      @flyestskeleman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You could say they were eggcelent.

    • @Cyro23
      @Cyro23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      K.E.V. when aren't they good?

    • @pyro4sub28
      @pyro4sub28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The EGGisode was great!

    • @LoinkLoink
      @LoinkLoink 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Abigail65656 SecretiveCrystalix Roblox Videos
      When tf did playing Minecraft become an offensive thing? I don't understand either of your logic, it's just a game, not a cult or some shit

  • @noahwhite4481
    @noahwhite4481 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is what I look forward to every weekend

  • @eafmarine
    @eafmarine 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, keep it up!
    And I think you should pop your Gen III cherry
    How good was Salamence?

  • @abominationdesolation8322
    @abominationdesolation8322 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never subscribe to entertainment channels but I like every single video this channel puts out.

  • @diegodiaz8397
    @diegodiaz8397 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    How good was gligar and gliscor?

  • @IceTwig
    @IceTwig 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I don't have a Pokemon suggestion.
    Just wanted to wish people a good day

  • @andrewdecker616
    @andrewdecker616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Togekiss is tied with gengar for my favorite Pokemon. The good old days of a calm nature serene grace paraflinch (thunder wave+air slash) with roost for recovery and nasty plot, or even flamethrower for some builds for that coverage against grass, ice, and most importantly steel.

  • @MarioFan587YT
    @MarioFan587YT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Togekiss is my favourite Pokémon. It's so cute and it's pretty great

  • @sonofulti1859
    @sonofulti1859 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Woah woah woah, you didn’t even talk about Togetic and eviolite! And how it would spam Tri Attack. Togetic is possibly one of the best eviolite users nowadays in PU.

    • @2supermaro
      @2supermaro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SonOfUlti Yeah i completely forgot about that

    • @borzavrl
      @borzavrl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Togetic is D tier in USUM PU viability rankings...

    • @SonKunSama
      @SonKunSama 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Togeti isn't that good, it loses to many stealth rockers and still has shit defense with Eviolite

    • @Hayds126
      @Hayds126 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t call it one of the best. Maybe because it’s slow and somewhat ok sp atk. The best eviolite user is probably chansey

    • @sonofulti1859
      @sonofulti1859 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      In PU it is one of the best. Maybe not all around THE best, but it's still up there.

  • @Roller610
    @Roller610 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    How good was gligar and Gliscor actually

  • @FoxyThePirateGamingDaily101
    @FoxyThePirateGamingDaily101 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually just realized the song you were using because I just found it out because I like it -_-

  • @TheFirehands150
    @TheFirehands150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember I went months of playing rage quitters who met my Togekiss' paraflinch lol

  • @JTLDrago94
    @JTLDrago94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How good was gligar & gliscor ACTUALLY?

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How good were the Johto Starters ACTUALLY? Great videos, keep up the good work :D

    • @calamorta
      @calamorta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bad

    • @Rei_Tatekei
      @Rei_Tatekei 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not Feraligatr nigga

  • @eMania92
    @eMania92 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How good was Medicham? Great videos! Keep it up!

  • @HorrorGeek9
    @HorrorGeek9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Togepi, Togetic, and Togekiss are so cute