I would push back those expectations a bit just to be careful. Apparently they barely changed any gameplay. Just refined the not fun gameplay from 1. Also a few people are saying the last half of the game is bad character wise. But it seems like most reviews are super positive, and it has a 96 on metacritic.
@@stevensmileyprod are you just here to spread negativity? *they* all played the game and say it's amazing and if you didn't enjoy the gameplay from the first game, then don't play the sceond game lol
Of course there gonna day this, have you no business acumen at all? I’m gonna assume no. THEY GET GAMES WEEKS EARLY, THEY ARE ACCESS MEDIA THEY RELY ON ACCESS FOR CONTENT. Do you think there gonna tell you how shit the game is? No
@@that_dude_cam No, I did like 1, but I just really didn't enjoy the gameplay. And at this point it takes a lot for me to want to play a zombie game. I'm just saying that be careful with expectations, I'm sure you'll like it, but some reviews I've watched haven't been stellar on it. Although it seems like a lot of reviews are saying this game is amazing, and its metacritic score is a 96 right now. So maybe there's nothing to worry about.
me !!! i have like one more miscellaneous trophy for tlou and it's literally the shiv door one, i just have ONE DOOR LEFT but i never have enough shivs by the time i get there. very unfortunate
sydney moore get a modified melee weapon and then swap it for a regular one and then swap back to the modded one and you get scissors and tape from it every time. Basically unlimited shivs glitch
(Spoilers) I absolutely loved this game, even more than the first one. The gameplay was much improved and I thought the story was incredible. A lot of people are angry about Joel's death and how it happened, but I feel like that is the point. This game is about hate and obviously you are supposed to hate Abby at first and then maybe feel better about her after playing her half, which worked on me. At the end I was praying that Ellie wouldn't kill Abby because I don't think Ellie would have gotten closure from killing Abby. Abby is not a good person, but neither is anyone in the Last Of Us universe. Joel's decision at the end of TLOU was selfish, he killed Abby's father and ruined chances for a potential vaccine that could literally have saved humanity, but people are so quick to forgive him and not Abby, who is essentially the same as Ellie. Abby and Ellie have so many parallels throughout the entire story, but people seem to be blind to that. If people put themselves in Abby's shoes and had someone kill their father, they would probably feel as angry as she did. For me personally it was one of the greatest gaming experiences I have ever had.
The problem with the reception of this game is that instead of hating Abby for joels death they hate naughty dog for joels death and thus reject the game because it's not the story the where expecting. Because they intentionally reject the story practicly from the outset do to Joels death they never allow themselves to see Abby as a sympothetic character and so the entire premise is lost on them. Also this game is really for super slow and methotical sneak style game players that pay attention to details. The kind of gamer that enjoys games like alien isolation for instance. If you run and gun it much that is special about this game will have been not just not appreciated but completely missed.
Wow, you nailed it man. Couldn’t of said it better myself. I went from HATING Abby to maybe preferring her as a character near the halfway mark. Everything she did, made SO much sense. All the haters that can’t get over what she did... they need to play the rest of the game. TLOU2 was EXHAUSTING, but I couldn’t put it down.
Agree 100%! I'm trying to not let the user reviews hate backlash get to me, but man, the fanbase is being so toxic, and I love the first game too, that's why it pisses me off. whatever, I loved it
5:59 "...with fresh eyes, and allowing it to take me where it wanted to go." This hit me hard. It's the most important quality that's been missing in the gaming culture surrounding this game. We accepted the first game soup to nuts as presented because we had no preconception of what it needed to be. Many detractors criticize the game for how it didn't match their vision of where it should've gone. Well, no story will live up to that. I knew there would only be one first time. I cherished that. I let somebody tell me a story vs... I don't know what the alternative is. Half of the Internet is like an annoying kid at story time who keeps interrupting the reader with, "Ooh! Ooh! And then there could be, like, a giant shark, and it flies, and the people would shoot fire, and..." Sit down, Billy. My 21-year-old daughter is playing now, and she's eyes-wide-open with it, too, and it's delightful (and bleak, and scary, and violent). When that halfway point came, she totally bought into it and got excited, even more readily and with more foresight than I had at that moment (it took me a few beats). So, it's a great point. Don't come to the party with your own party. Come to the party to enjoy the party.
Still can't believe Greg didn't like RDR 2 or Arthur Morgan. For most people Arthur Morgan is one of gamings best characters and definitely Rockstar games best character.
Nobody is getting hate for liking the game. The hate ( if you choose to use that word. But I prefer to use disappointment since that's what it is) is directed at Niel Druckman for the direction he chose to go with the story (plot) and the fact that the story was probably heavily influenced by his association with Anita Sarkeesian. That's why people are pissed. If anything, its those who like the game who are rather attacking those who claim not to like it on social media. Trust me I don't hate the game. I just don't like the plot and people just can't accept that I do not like the plot. If someone has the right to express why they like the game, I should also have the right to express my feelings of not liking the game. People just cant handle the fact that other people do not like what they like period. And that transcends beyond gaming. People do it in politics , sports, religion etc. It's a human trait
It's because the game features women and gay characters, the alt-right/white doesn't like either and treats them like second class citizens, they were hoping and praying this game was bad so they can continue to shit on it. The amount of people in a few Patreons I sub to were saying a month ago how "bad" the game was without playing it, it further solidifies the insecurity in people.
@@systematik I agree there are people who will shit on it just because they do not like some elements in the game. Be it sexual orientation or plot.That is wrong. Having sad that, I think it's more about how the LGBT element was shoved in Part II. We all knew Ellie was a lesbian in part 1 but you didn't hear anybody complain about it simply because it wasn't forced into the game. At no point did it feel out of place in the first game. *NOW LET'S GET TO MY THOUGHTS* Do I like the gay stuff in the game? I don't really mind even though I hate it when corporations force homosexuality into media just so they appear to support the cause. Which is what I believe Naughty Dog is doing here. A lot of gays express their distaste for this and feel they are being used to make some company look appealing to liberals. But when somebody like me - a straight dude; point that out, I am automatically labeled as being homophobic. At this point I wonder if people even understand the meaning of the word *HOMOPHOBIC* Secondly I don't like the plots I saw in the leaks but there is no denying the game will be a solid game to play. Gameplay and graphics wise this is the pinancle of gaming this generation. Period. Just that I am invested in some elements of the first game and I do not like how those elements were treated in the Part II. I play games to have fun. I just don't see how I will enjoy the game with that plot. For those who make reference to movies. I personally watch movies and play games for different reasons. So I don't mind a movie with a sad story but I wouldn't want to spend 30 hrs of my life on a game and not like the outcome of some major elements or Characters. I am trying hard not to get into spoilers here because maybe you haven't seen the 3hr leaked footage. If you haven't I wouldn't want to spoil it for you.
@@blackwhite2361 I hope you already know that the "plot leaks" were fake and only based on the footage that was leaked... that had been debunked times and times over with critics even saying that the cutscenes were taken out of context, and that the leaked footage is a small percentage of the actual game. And briefly responding to something you said on the first reply, what TF did Anita Sarkeesian had to do with this game? I know she and Neil have talked before, but there is NOTHING saying that she influenced the game like wtf... and explain to me how the LGBT element was "shoved" onto the game. Please explain this... when I have seen nothing to back that statement and, in fact, have seen reviewers stating that non of that is forced and the element of Ellie being a lesbian is actually shown in a pretty natural way.
It’s honestly hilarious to see so many of the people who were hating the game based on the leaks turn around and pretend they were always supportive of the game despite the DEATH THREATS to Neil Druckmann and Co...
Gear 4th Luffy I feel like you should maybe check up on the word generalize and maybe you would understand the whole point of the word is that it’s not specific.
@@punchforpound2808 When someone who has a GOOD TRACK RECORD with making trustworthy reviews has 4 people all agree a game is great, it's more than enough reason to be a little excited.
@@punchforpound2808 conspiracy theories inbound. Why can't people just give game good reviews without people saying it's bought not earned. In your case nothing in this world that is rated good is good as anything can be paid for. Pizza hut has better reviews "paid for". BMW had better cars "paid for". How about this game is good so far and I'll try it out to see if people opinions are right.
Hey Greg, im going to leave this video now and come back after I personally finish the game. Thank you for your great work and optimism. I’ve been listening and watching you guys for 5 years now, 25% of my life, and you guys have been a constant source joy and entertainment. So thank you!
It's an amazing game. I loved it. So refreshing to see videos like this with Greg Miller and other people that appreciated and understood this game. I agree with everything I've heard said in this video. It's an amazing game. I feel so bad for the people that didn't understand this game and just view it on one level.
R1 Gaming Yeah I’ve only just started watching Kinda Funny again since I gradually stopped watching years ago, so I’m new to Blessing and haven’t watched normal vids of them in the studio yet. I can’t tell if it’s because they’re on a video call so it’s harder for the others to jump into the convo to help him out or make it a bit easier? It distracts from the actual topic especially if everyone else looks like they aren’t really acknowledging what he’s saying.
@@10whiten99 no blessing is just not ready for this imo. In terms of knowledge, charisma and presenting his lacking. I think KF just got romanticized by hiring from the community and honeslty it puts me off watching or listening because he goes round in circles and doesnt have any of his own opinions or points. But the community seems to keep singing his praises, saying his doing a fantastic job and is the new messiah of video games so nothing will change anytime soon. I get he could be nervous but making actual points and being able to read stuff is pretty basic. If no one gives him constrcutive criticsm he will stay like this unfortunatley. All he did in the livestream was constantly talk about sonys cutaway graphics over and over. Sadly the only time KF games is worth watching now is for Greg, Tim and Gary. Ive gone from watching everyday to once or twice a week at most. Mainly just for Whitta Wednesday. Colins ps podcast is levels above ps i love you
@@madrocts he's right about Joel's head being smashed with golf club by a character called Abby early in the game. This review doesn't mention Abby although he/she is a main playable character
Guys, thank you for this. I finished the game and it's my GOAT. The first was my favourite but it has been surpassed. Last month I was diagnosed with Complex Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. And without getting into spoilers, there's a theme of that here and it shows me how powerful this art form is. I thank you guys and the commenters because this is one of of not the only safe places to discuss this game. The reaction and internet effect on this game has been so toxic that it hurts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I get that. But people are trying to #cancel this game and the people involved and it makes me hurt. Don't ruin things other people love. Say your opinion that's fine but don't make an effort on ruining what other people love. Just don't involve yourself with the piece of art form you don't enjoy. I hate the film suicide squad, but I don't constantly bash people who enjoyed it and I don't seek out the creators. Just wanted to share. Thanks everyone. X
I want to thank you for your comment dude, when I beat the game I thought about the violence and cycle of hate, but I most certainly thought more about the struggle of mental illness, specifically in this case PTSD. Don’t wanna get into spoiler territory either but I definitely feel awful for the characters and what they have to go through I have to replay the first one to make sure if I liked it better or not, but doesn’t change to me that this second one told a bold story itself and I think they did really good for what they worked with. You’re right about what you said, the toxic issue is people are actually putting in effort to ruin the game for others. In this case, you can tell me different but you cannot convince me otherwise, that’s how I tend to agree to disagree. But the toxicity that someone goes through a lot of energy that can be put elsewhere, put into trying to ruin it for others is irresponsible. That said, there is no denying it now. The Last of Us as a franchise is powerful.
The Last of Us is my favorite game of all time. Naughty Dog is my favorite developer. I didn't need to stay up for these reviews but I did because of my excitement. I had no idea these scores and opinions could increase the amount of excitement I already had. 1 week everyone!!
@@gerritbosch5269 you guys are being tricked...the reason why its 96 Is because people were blackmailed with early copies that were free! Please this naughty dog is not the same as the one that made the 1st game. Did any of you not see the spoilers? I wont spoil anything but it's a game that completely disregards the storyline of the 1st I guess.
I think it's great that Naughty Dog is really pushing what a game can be and where it can go and just how far it can push the boundaries of a videogame
It’s a beautifully made game. As a stand-alone game, it’s great. As a sequel to the first last of us, I didn’t like it so much. Kindof reminds me of last Jedi
I agree. As the last Jedi aged though, I warmed up to it a bit more so I hope that happens with TLOU 2. The writing was super cheese ball at times with the repeated cliches and heavy handed themes. Greg is right though, characters are great (for the most part) technically great, accessibility options are great, fun gameplay, but it overstays it's welcome as the gameplay and dialogue become repetitive towards the end. The whole reliance on flashbacks is so annoying because they add so much to Joel's death and it's so weird that they killed the character then made it satisfying a dozen hours later. Tyler the fact that you immediately assume OPs problem shows that you need to listen and pay attention to people who have legit criticism. They probably should have got at least one person with a slightly different opinion.
I'm so happy you guys loved it! The first one truly changed my life in a myriad of ways, mainly in the way that I approach being a better big brother to all of my younger siblings. Super excited for this game!
Hi Greg, I have an important question: if I want to look every corner of the game and find most of the manuals and other collectible stuff, will I lose the tension and rythme of the story ? I mean if I spend lotta time in each level for my first playthrough, will it come to a point that the narrative and cut scense lost their meaning ?
Thanks for introducing me to Kristine Steimer! So insightful, and she actually journaled her play-through! Been waiting for video games criticism to reach the in-depth and academic level movie criticism is at, but I suppose video game story telling had to transcend first! Long live Kristine Ebert!
I'm replaying TLOU right now and am realizing finally that the soundtrack is one of the BEST PARTS of the game, and that's saying something. Gives me chills every time I play.
Sad isn’t it? This game pushes the medium so far forward in every respect, but unfortunately the subject matter is too mature for the majority of the gaming audience I guess. All people can see is “revenge is bad” which not even remotely close to the point of this game. Plus they have such a boner for Joel which they are unable to let go of. I could understand if Joel was a standard hero but he is far from it. It’s sad the gaming community cannot open their minds. It shows how closed minded they continue to be. I really feel bad for Naughty Dog and Neil who so plainly poured their hearts and souls into this project and half the people just turn around and call awful, lazy, garbage, etc. Mostly because the subject matter clearly flew over their heads
eatZeppelin problem is if someone doesn’t agree with that then he is a republican bigot. I’m a liberal and I think the game is good but not the master piece they make it seem.
I just started my 2nd play through of this game and what Steimer says in this review about not letting the internet ruin her experience is resonating with me SO HARD right now lol.. I think she mentioned how she was able to ignore the internet and be willing to let the game take her where it wants and yeah, I'm having the same experience now that the internet has quieted down and it's just so damn good. Like I can't really articulate in an - off the top of the head TH-cam comment, but it's flat out amazing. And an amazing case study into how an internet hive mind can effect your perception of something real.
I have to say, my original plan for TLoU2 reviews was to ignore them, and play it. But I had a part spoiled for me, and all of the anger and hatred on the internet made me nervous. Hearing you say it was masterpiece almost made me cry tears of happiness. Thank you Greg.
Greg, if you're seeing this, just a quick shoutout to you and the Kinda Funny crew. Watching/listening to all of y'all on a level of passion that is not matched in this industry is so inspiring. Fucking love you dudes. Can't wait for Last of Us Part II.
Watching Bless at 1:03:50 talking about how Cyberpunk might be on the same level. Oh sweet summer child, what simpler times these were so long ago. Ha ha.
@@panchopenumbra and he completely dominates conversations with these like-fests. I appreciate the guy, but you have to be able to articulate yourself in the moment. I could tell Steimer wasn't really diggin it either.
Rayyan He watched skill up’s review and cooped his opinions so he can justify he his own pre-conceived notions about the game lmao, and that review was essentially “i don’t like the story direction, therefore the entire game is bad” Don’t worry about this guy. I’m sure they’re all well written like every character in the entirety of Neil’s previous writing works.
Got a PS5 and just started playing through the PS4 library. Haven't had a playstation since PS2. About 7 hours into last of us 2, and i'm already ready to call it a masterpiece.
Greg Miller Reviews have evolved to a level where it is extremely detailed. Big time respect, Thanks for all the positivity you bring to the industry and Happy PlayStation 5 Day!
I can't agree that it is Naughty Dog's best. The first game was better. Part II was really good, but I think the original game was able to bring me a wider array of emotions. Part II was only about sadness and anger. I thought the original game had more hook moments as well, the moments you want to look up on TH-cam and see other people's first time reactions to them. I thought the music was its own character in the original too, while it was a little too forced in Part II. Part II also dragged on at the end, and that was probably intentional.
Also, as someone who did the game almost 100% stealth, and like Kristine, I will sit and watch an enemy for minutes, they usually did have a set path to follow. It may have been complicated, or they may have started out in another location and traveled one time on a path to get to their set path, but they usually had a set path until alerted. I definitely felt there were moments where it was obvious it was game. Like the way the enemies would react when they found multiple bodies in a row, and blurt out the same line of dialogue seconds apart. What really ticked me off, was my AI allies running around when I was in stealth mode, and knocking me off a wall I was hiding behind right into the path of an enemy. Why do my AI allies need to run around when I am still?
The one part of the game where I thought someone just swung out of character was spoiler below When Tommy came and got pissed at Ellie for not wanting to go after Abby in Santa Barbara. At the beginning of the game, Tommy almost seemed reluctant to get Ellie involved, and seemed reluctant to get revenge himself. After all the crap they went through I thought it was odd the way he snapped at her. I guess nearly being killed, and losing an eye and probably part of his brain might have done that to him. Plus there is just a lot of story we didn't get to see between Abby leaving him for dead in Seattle and when he arrived at Ellie and Dina's farm.
Hey Greg, I don't have a question I just want to say thank you for going above and beyond for us today. You're such an inspiration, and your dedication to providing us with quality content is more than I could ask for! We appreciate you!
Hi Greg, do you think the experience will be diminished if I last played the first game 5 years ago? Do you recommend watching cutscenes of the first game on TH-cam to prepare or should I be fine with a general knowledge of the overall story beats from the first game?
Here's a question, anyone can answer, really. When did you realize that Tess was the same age as Joel's daughter, Sarah (or, at least, as old as Sarah would've been)?
Gosh this made me so happy. With so much happening in the world, this and the PS5 reveal today gave me so much joy. Thank you Greg and the rest of the KF crew!
TY for the awesome coverage today! Was your experience significantly harmed by spoilers? I think any fan with common sense knows the game couldn't be summed up by a single sentence that the trolls were throwing around.
Even if you don’t read the letter, the safes make a audio que when you get the right number. One time I found the safe before letter for the code and I just listen the ques and find the letters later.
I don't really have a question. I just wanted to say that I am really intrigued where the story goes! I am happy to hear that the game lives up to expectations!
Really enjoyed the discussion the four of you guys had. Many of the other reviews were done by a single person so hearing 4 people actually play the game and talk about it is super cool. First video I watched from you guys and I really enjoyed!
Speaking of the ai in this game. I played on survival diffeculty and intially i wasnt able to find a way to exploit the ai because it's some of the best ai in any video game ever if not the best. Eventually i was able find areas where i could make for Choke points where i could funnel them in like on top of a roof car park etc , but even then you have to be careful because the Levels and the structures are built so they can Flank you. The best Choke points to funnel enemies are garage with one ladder then you know where they will come and you can sit and hide behind cover and kite them around until they turn their back for stealth kill.
Also Greg, whenever you get the chance, please try to give RDR2 another go in the future. The world is incredibly immersive and the gang of characters are all so well fleshed out. I think the character archs, particularly of Arthur Morgan, Dutch and John Marston are the best I’ve ever seen in a game. Anyway, love watching you guys! Been really getting into your podcasts since quarantine began.
I'm playing the TLoU remastered right now. I already preordered part 2, because of last week's state of play. Should I wait to listen to this until I beat 1? I have had the ending spoiled of part 1 for me already.
Definitely finish the game dude..it's worth it even if it's spoiled for you so you still have context going into the new game. Plus it's just an awesome game regardless.
Greg, how do you do your hair? I like your hair and I need to do something with mine. Mine kinda just lays there. Do you blow-dry? Gel? Blow-dry, then gel? Everyday? Even on days you don't shampoo?
I fell in love with beyond around the time the last of us 1 came out , after beating it I needed to hear some body talk about this experience and you and Colin were there. This makes me miss you guys together good job tho Greg you’re the fucking man
Hey guys! I haven’t watched the full video and I probably should! But wanted to ask, do outfits change a lot throughout the game? I have the suspicion that they might? Loved the outfit changes throughout the first game.
What difficulty would you recommend starting off playing the game? I platinumed the first one twice (ps3 and ps4 remastered). I love a good challenge but know I’ll play it at least a few times
wait a second, am i dreaming, i genuinely dont know, literally everyone is saying this game is 10/10 and a masterpiece, its everything i was hoping for
I agree the game is good and whatnot but comparing the gameplay with MGSV there is where I totally disagree in fact one of the things that I didn’t like about tlous 2 were the encounters and how they were designed like sometimes it felt they invited you to sneak but most of the times you start an encounter with a very compromised position making combat unavoidable also the level of polish in this game didn’t seem on par with other naughty dog games.
Hey Greg! Love you man! Been watching Kinda Funny the past 4 years since I was 15! Can't wait to play this game next Friday. You and the rest of the crew keep up the amazing work as content creators and human beings! ❤️
Hey Greg, quick-n-dumb question. I've been playing the original PS3 version of the first game lately in anticipation for this one, in which you aim and shoot with the bumpers (L1 & R1) instead of the triggers. I've started to get used to it, is there an option in the TLoU2 to set the controls to bumpers instead of triggers so I don't have to re-learn what button does what?
Hey Greg! No questions because I know you will cover everything in the review, just wanted to say how much I've admired your work ethic and impact you've had for gaming journalism, coming from a journalism major. Thank you for all you've done, and I hope to be half as good as you one day!
You cannot trust many of these guys, those in the media that is.. Corporate sites are hugely dependent on high profile titles such as this because they equal hits; the more hits, the more attractive the site will be to advertisers & sponsors. The revenue generated from residuals is huge. Falling out with a publisher will mean losses, a lot of them. Access. Then there's privilege that are the 'access' benefits, journalists love their (early) review copies, their (paid for) trips to studios, press & launch events, the copious amount of freebies, the exclusive interviews. Many of these journalists cast aside their integrity & professionalism in order to maintain good relations. 50 sites have given this game the perfect score, yet when you read many of these reviews, it's apparent that not only is the game not perfect, its far from it. Bonuses. Developers are known to receive bonuses based on review scores. There was a case where the Fallout: New Vegas developers missed out on their dividends because the game fell one percent shy of its review target. Some 'Journalists'-- because they are pally and sympathetic (crunch culture) towards developers -- might inflate their scores to help the game makers score their bonus. Admirable if so, but it's another case of failing your readers/viewers. A reviewers political leanings can also factor in to a positive score; if a game features 'progressive' values - female lead, sidelining 'toxic' white males, elevating lgbtq characters, multi ethnic representation, a critique of capitalism (ironic given how much these journalists/companies benefit from the free market system), pushing the systemic hate narrative towards women, ,ethnic minorities, homosexuals & the trans community, portraying religion in a poor light & so on...... the activ..journalist will be inclined to dish out a high score. Conversely, we see games that are historically accurate receiving negative attention because they don't retrofit the cultural make up of 21st century Western society into games that were set half a millennia ago: case in point Eurogamer's Review of Kingdom Come Deliverance, in which they were upset at the games lack of representation?? If they're being morally/intellectually consistent they will mark down Ghost of Tsushima if that game does not feature a racially diverse set of characters/NPC's. Virtue signalling to appease the progressive hivemind mentality that is so pervasive among their peers & on social media, particularly the likes of those on Twitter. Progressive reviewers love to upset those who do not comply with their world views. They will deliberately score progressive/woke games higher to annoy those whom they perceive & paint (with such broad strokes) as being toxic, racist, sexist, problematic, haters etc. They also push these high scores out in an effort to see their progressive messages being amplified, another avenue for social conditioning. A good example of this was the overly generous scores that were given to the objectively mediocre film, Captain Marvel.
Alright. I saw the IGN score before coming here. I’m so hyped up for TLOUP2 that I’m out here screaming like SnowBikeMike! Greg, what does a video game need for you to coin it a “masterpiece?”
Amazing input guys! I was waiting for the reviews since I loved the first game and I was hopeful but a little scared because of the negativity around it but hearing you guys talking about it made me preorder. Can't wait to experience it myself Thank you guys
I feel like the people who hate this game based solely on leaks but haven't played it. Is the equivalent to Sam I am from "Geen Eggs and Ham." They dont know why they hate it, they just do...
@@ebrahiem7118 Joel murdered innocent people. Then faced the consequences. Especially Jerry (Abby's dad) and Marlene who did nothing wrong. In a realistic world, murder doesn't come with a fantastic Michael Bay slow mo heroic explosion and poetic last words. "Those who live by the sword, die by the sword."
I literally just completed last of us part 2, really enjoyed playing it and completely understand people's criticisms towards it mostly for it's story, for me personally I play games for gameplay and mechanics which is what this game apsolutely nails, having a good story keeps the player attached to the game but for me personally it doesn't matter that much
I love the subway section. I was able to get through it with out fighting anyone in my second run of the game. When the WLF were looking for Ellie and Dina I through a brick at the wall and the clickers ran out to investigate the sound and the WLF ran to that location and got attacked. Whilst the clickers were eating them I sneaked through the train carriages and opened the door without any problems loved it. First time I played did not run so smoothly. I love this game for its replayability. I literally have discovered brand new locations in my second run through.
Legit that moment when I was crawling through the train while the clickers went for the wlf , the light was covered with the glow of flares and that deep drumbeat I thought to myself this is the best thing I’ve experienced in any media
I think this game is going to be the make or break moment for the "Games as Art" movement. Either gamers are going to be mature enough to accept that bad things can happen to your faves and not everything in gaming HAS to be wish fulfillment, or they reject it because "agenda".
It was almost MGSV, but there weren't enough ranged stealth options (until the end). Unless you're going guns blazing or are playing on lower resource difficulty, you're having to sneak all the way up to enemies too much. Still a great game though.
Yo Greg! Listening now. My question is... while I do understand that this is mainly narrative driven, are there any cool replay-ability mechanics? (ie. side missions, collectibles, bases to clear) really want some intricacies that keep me micro managing. However, I know this will awe me regardless. Love the stuff you guys do so please continue to do it. Thanks bro!
From what other reviewers have talked about there are huge level full of nooks and crannies to be explored and with puzzles. Sometimes transversed by vehicles. Kind of like UC4 and the Lost Legacy.
Really great discussion, but you guys need to be better and more aware of guests who join discussions because the habit of talking over them can be frustrating. Greg seems like the only one really aware of it and actively tries to give guests the floor. Anytime a show is more than one on one this happens.
@Honk Honk Hey man, shit like this is subjective, for example.. Shawshank redemption one of the greatest movies out there-- intrudeced the movie to two of my friends.. One thought it was "alright" the other slept through a few scenes due to the fact that it was "boring" however that doesn't take away from the fact that it's a highly acclaimed movie. My word of advice, find a reviewer that you trust and generally has the same subjective views as you or make your own decision, I go with the second option.. If I had listened to the reviews I probably wouldn't have played Days gone (a highly anticipated playstation exclusive)-- I understand why people didn't like it but I was surprised how much fun I had, maybe I went in with low expectations. ND hasn't disappointed me in a long time, maybe uncharted 3 slightly but so far they have produced some of the greatest games for playstation and based on that I'm going to buy the game but that's my opinion.
skillup demolished the game with an actual review. the jump mechanic serves no purpose, the dodge button is just for quicktime events, and the story is childish and awful. and ND did not allow you to mention the main character from the last 60% of the game.
That's the thing... Say what you will about the story (eventually). Be it great or garbage. [We'll see. I've seen the leaks so idk... I'll hold my own personal final judgment for myself until after the game releases and gameplay is out there.] The one thing Naughty Dog can be greatly credited for of which they have a consistent track record for is literally EVERYTHING ELSE. Who they chose in their voice cast, the choice actors performances themselves, the detailed environments, scenery, and worlds, the stealth and gameplay is usually always pretty good, and the music/ compositions for each game is almost always fantastic. In terms of everything else, yeah, Naughty dog games can be a masterpiece in terms of the artistry. It's that story though.... That's where it may keep it from being a complete masterpiece.
UpintheAir1395 it was actually the story that carried part 1 and the way I would phrase it is that the gameplay was just ‘there’. The last of us part 1 is my favourite video game ever, period and the sketchy gameplay makes it actually feel like a video game rather than a movie. It was in my mind; perfect and I hope part 2 can hold up.
Greg, what difficulty setting do you recommend for the first playthrough for a TLoU veteran who understands the game mechanics well? And listen mode on or off?
@@KindaFunnyGames That's great. I love the complexity of the stealth mechanics we've already seen in the game, and I was definitely excited when you had made a similar comparison about the stealth in the preview. I cannot wait to get my hands on it next week.
I just started giving MGSV another chance, that game is so disappointing and definitely last place in the series ranking. Even the 'Gameplay is good' stance falls flat when you realize you are doing the same extraction missions over and over again with a limited supply of weapons at your disposal at any given moment.
DestructableMe True....But the freedom of tackling the missions your way is still fun to me lol I never beat MGSV but I’ll always appreciate the time I spent playing it.
@@josephsua7246 Give it another shot, tackling missions 'the way you want to' isn't as prevalent as you thought, most of the weapons and perks are locked behind economy micro managing/time to develop mechanics. The world is barren except at outposts. MGSV actually elevated MGS4's experience.
11:00 Tim, MGSV is one of my favourite games of all time, not because I necessarily enjoyed the story (amongst Metal Gear, it's in the middle), but the gameplay is so close to perfect. If this feels as good and rewards you just as well, I'm definitely in.
The game does allow you to just escape fights and run to where you need to go. The reason I usually systematically killed everyone and their dog was so I could take my time and comb through the area for resources and letters that would give clues for safe combinations and other information that would tell me more about the games world and story. Now that I’m playing new game plus mode and have the training books and gun upgrades I will probably try to escape and run more to avoid fighting WLF and scars.
Runing away? That's no fun hahhaha No i am in my second playtrough on survivor+ i play without listen mode, and this game is freaking intense!!! And btw did you know you can crack safes just by listening to the clicks!! So many incredible details in this game!!
Who else got chills when Greg used the word "masterpiece"? LOL Lets...f***ing...go. 😊😊😊
I'm so damn excited, honestly!
I would push back those expectations a bit just to be careful. Apparently they barely changed any gameplay. Just refined the not fun gameplay from 1. Also a few people are saying the last half of the game is bad character wise. But it seems like most reviews are super positive, and it has a 96 on metacritic.
@@stevensmileyprod are you just here to spread negativity? *they* all played the game and say it's amazing and if you didn't enjoy the gameplay from the first game, then don't play the sceond game lol
Of course there gonna day this, have you no business acumen at all? I’m gonna assume no. THEY GET GAMES WEEKS EARLY, THEY ARE ACCESS MEDIA THEY RELY ON ACCESS FOR CONTENT. Do you think there gonna tell you how shit the game is? No
@@that_dude_cam No, I did like 1, but I just really didn't enjoy the gameplay. And at this point it takes a lot for me to want to play a zombie game. I'm just saying that be careful with expectations, I'm sure you'll like it, but some reviews I've watched haven't been stellar on it. Although it seems like a lot of reviews are saying this game is amazing, and its metacritic score is a 96 right now. So maybe there's nothing to worry about.
Anyone else excited that Ellie gets a knife and we don't have to worry about shivs anymore?
me !!! i have like one more miscellaneous trophy for tlou and it's literally the shiv door one, i just have ONE DOOR LEFT but i never have enough shivs by the time i get there. very unfortunate
Hated having to walk away from a locked door bcuz I needed a shiv :(
sydney moore get a modified melee weapon and then swap it for a regular one and then swap back to the modded one and you get scissors and tape from it every time. Basically unlimited shivs glitch
I’m so glad about that man that was frustrating
Yeah it’s cool. She also gets a few less fingers
(Spoilers) I absolutely loved this game, even more than the first one. The gameplay was much improved and I thought the story was incredible. A lot of people are angry about Joel's death and how it happened, but I feel like that is the point. This game is about hate and obviously you are supposed to hate Abby at first and then maybe feel better about her after playing her half, which worked on me. At the end I was praying that Ellie wouldn't kill Abby because I don't think Ellie would have gotten closure from killing Abby. Abby is not a good person, but neither is anyone in the Last Of Us universe. Joel's decision at the end of TLOU was selfish, he killed Abby's father and ruined chances for a potential vaccine that could literally have saved humanity, but people are so quick to forgive him and not Abby, who is essentially the same as Ellie. Abby and Ellie have so many parallels throughout the entire story, but people seem to be blind to that. If people put themselves in Abby's shoes and had someone kill their father, they would probably feel as angry as she did. For me personally it was one of the greatest gaming experiences I have ever had.
The problem with the reception of this game is that instead of hating Abby for joels death they hate naughty dog for joels death and thus reject the game because it's not the story the where expecting. Because they intentionally reject the story practicly from the outset do to Joels death they never allow themselves to see Abby as a sympothetic character and so the entire premise is lost on them. Also this game is really for super slow and methotical sneak style game players that pay attention to details. The kind of gamer that enjoys games like alien isolation for instance. If you run and gun it much that is special about this game will have been not just not appreciated but completely missed.
Wow, you nailed it man. Couldn’t of said it better myself. I went from HATING Abby to maybe preferring her as a character near the halfway mark. Everything she did, made SO much sense. All the haters that can’t get over what she did... they need to play the rest of the game. TLOU2 was EXHAUSTING, but I couldn’t put it down.
Bro don't spoil things in the comments
Agree 100%! I'm trying to not let the user reviews hate backlash get to me, but man, the fanbase is being so toxic, and I love the first game too, that's why it pisses me off. whatever, I loved it
You’ve said exactly what I’ve been trying to tell other people who have completely missed the point of the game. Well done
5:59 "...with fresh eyes, and allowing it to take me where it wanted to go."
This hit me hard. It's the most important quality that's been missing in the gaming culture surrounding this game. We accepted the first game soup to nuts as presented because we had no preconception of what it needed to be. Many detractors criticize the game for how it didn't match their vision of where it should've gone. Well, no story will live up to that.
I knew there would only be one first time. I cherished that. I let somebody tell me a story vs... I don't know what the alternative is. Half of the Internet is like an annoying kid at story time who keeps interrupting the reader with, "Ooh! Ooh! And then there could be, like, a giant shark, and it flies, and the people would shoot fire, and..."
Sit down, Billy.
My 21-year-old daughter is playing now, and she's eyes-wide-open with it, too, and it's delightful (and bleak, and scary, and violent). When that halfway point came, she totally bought into it and got excited, even more readily and with more foresight than I had at that moment (it took me a few beats).
So, it's a great point. Don't come to the party with your own party. Come to the party to enjoy the party.
Yes! Exactly.
Romance girl
My man Tim out here looking like a PS5.
Hey, y'all! Greg here. I'm going to be in the comments the first hour the review is live, so fire me some questions.
Hey Greg, nice work today. Thanks!
What a day its been, big up you guys 👍🏻
Can’t wait! I mean, I have to be ready for work in 3 hours, but this is obviously the priority 😊
Aright lad, i'm excited to watch the review. Along with praise I hope you folks weren't afraid to criticize the game as well.
Do you know when part 2 of Nick's TLoU playthrough is going to be uploaded?
Still can't believe Greg didn't like RDR 2 or Arthur Morgan. For most people Arthur Morgan is one of gamings best characters and definitely Rockstar games best character.
It's kinda sad that people are getting hate for liking the game lmao
Nobody is getting hate for liking the game. The hate ( if you choose to use that word. But I prefer to use disappointment since that's what it is) is directed at Niel Druckman for the direction he chose to go with the story (plot) and the fact that the story was probably heavily influenced by his association with Anita Sarkeesian. That's why people are pissed. If anything, its those who like the game who are rather attacking those who claim not to like it on social media. Trust me I don't hate the game. I just don't like the plot and people just can't accept that I do not like the plot. If someone has the right to express why they like the game, I should also have the right to express my feelings of not liking the game. People just cant handle the fact that other people do not like what they like period. And that transcends beyond gaming. People do it in politics , sports, religion etc. It's a human trait
It's because the game features women and gay characters, the alt-right/white doesn't like either and treats them like second class citizens, they were hoping and praying this game was bad so they can continue to shit on it. The amount of people in a few Patreons I sub to were saying a month ago how "bad" the game was without playing it, it further solidifies the insecurity in people.
@@systematik I agree there are people who will shit on it just because they do not like some elements in the game. Be it sexual orientation or plot.That is wrong. Having sad that, I think it's more about how the LGBT element was shoved in Part II. We all knew Ellie was a lesbian in part 1 but you didn't hear anybody complain about it simply because it wasn't forced into the game. At no point did it feel out of place in the first game.
*NOW LET'S GET TO MY THOUGHTS*
Do I like the gay stuff in the game? I don't really mind even though I hate it when corporations force homosexuality into media just so they appear to support the cause. Which is what I believe Naughty Dog is doing here. A lot of gays express their distaste for this and feel they are being used to make some company look appealing to liberals. But when somebody like me - a straight dude; point that out, I am automatically labeled as being homophobic. At this point I wonder if people even understand the meaning of the word *HOMOPHOBIC*
Secondly I don't like the plots I saw in the leaks but there is no denying the game will be a solid game to play. Gameplay and graphics wise this is the pinancle of gaming this generation. Period. Just that I am invested in some elements of the first game and I do not like how those elements were treated in the Part II. I play games to have fun. I just don't see how I will enjoy the game with that plot. For those who make reference to movies. I personally watch movies and play games for different reasons. So I don't mind a movie with a sad story but I wouldn't want to spend 30 hrs of my life on a game and not like the outcome of some major elements or Characters. I am trying hard not to get into spoilers here because maybe you haven't seen the 3hr leaked footage. If you haven't I wouldn't want to spoil it for you.
@@blackwhite2361 I hope you already know that the "plot leaks" were fake and only based on the footage that was leaked... that had been debunked times and times over with critics even saying that the cutscenes were taken out of context, and that the leaked footage is a small percentage of the actual game. And briefly responding to something you said on the first reply, what TF did Anita Sarkeesian had to do with this game? I know she and Neil have talked before, but there is NOTHING saying that she influenced the game like wtf... and explain to me how the LGBT element was "shoved" onto the game. Please explain this... when I have seen nothing to back that statement and, in fact, have seen reviewers stating that non of that is forced and the element of Ellie being a lesbian is actually shown in a pretty natural way.
@@blackwhite2361 Nah you can go look at the easy allies comment section and they're getting a lot of hate for it
It’s honestly hilarious to see so many of the people who were hating the game based on the leaks turn around and pretend they were always supportive of the game despite the DEATH THREATS to Neil Druckmann and Co...
That’s a lot of generalization in one sentence.
Why would you assume it’s a generalisation? Do you know who I’m referring to specifically?
Wait...it got that bad??....Smfh
Gear 4th Luffy I feel like you should maybe check up on the word generalize and maybe you would understand the whole point of the word is that it’s not specific.
Gear 4th Luffy from what I’ve seen its been the “wait and play” people who are on the masterpiece train.
"The Last of Us Part 2 is a masterpiece."
*happiness noise*
@@punchforpound2808 When someone who has a GOOD TRACK RECORD with making trustworthy reviews has 4 people all agree a game is great, it's more than enough reason to be a little excited.
@@punchforpound2808 remembers gamergate, still cares about gamergate. Definitely still living in momma's basement LMFAO
this game currently has more 10/10s than any game ive ever seen lmao this is amazing
@@punchforpound2808 conspiracy theories inbound. Why can't people just give game good reviews without people saying it's bought not earned. In your case nothing in this world that is rated good is good as anything can be paid for. Pizza hut has better reviews "paid for". BMW had better cars "paid for". How about this game is good so far and I'll try it out to see if people opinions are right.
KrimsonKracker lol you fanboy loser. I’d honestly hate to desperately need my positive opinion of a trash game constantly validated. Such a sad life.
LoU2 is fantastic. and i love how they fit the flashbacks in. i'm 18 hours in and ready to play more today.
Finally someone spits truth
Finished it today. Incredible game. It made me feel so many conflicting emotions that I didn’t think a video game could achieve
Most complex story ever on a video game
The only enjoyment you get at all are from the very few flashbacks you get.
Then you’re probably around the point where I started to hate it.
It is absolutely remarkable. They managed to surpass the original. The nuances and depth within the storytelling is unrivaled
Hey Greg, im going to leave this video now and come back after I personally finish the game. Thank you for your great work and optimism. I’ve been listening and watching you guys for 5 years now, 25% of my life, and you guys have been a constant source joy and entertainment. So thank you!
Thanks for watching, Blake! - Greg
Kinda Funny Games nice review
When do you think TLoU Factions multiplayer will be released and will it be a PS5, next gen, exclusive or will it be cross-gen?
Cross-gen. - Greg
@@KindaFunnyGames, thanks, Greg.
@@KindaFunnyGames do you know anything about the multiplayer so far? like an expected release window, player count, modes, and so on?
@@keithisabeast that's what I wana know I thought it would be at the ps5 event I was super disappointed
Hi
It's an amazing game. I loved it.
So refreshing to see videos like this with Greg Miller and other people that appreciated and understood this game. I agree with everything I've heard said in this video.
It's an amazing game. I feel so bad for the people that didn't understand this game and just view it on one level.
Can you also get Steimer on the spoilercast so she can talk about her notes
eventually at 23 minutes in they let her talk.
Steimer on Blessing @ 30:31: "I keep thinking he's done, shit, he's not done! (talking)"
Me: Big same, Kristine, big same.
Bless his heart he's doing his best.
AND I OOP
glad im not the only one to notice the fact he goes around in cricles without making an actual point
R1 Gaming Yeah I’ve only just started watching Kinda Funny again since I gradually stopped watching years ago, so I’m new to Blessing and haven’t watched normal vids of them in the studio yet. I can’t tell if it’s because they’re on a video call so it’s harder for the others to jump into the convo to help him out or make it a bit easier? It distracts from the actual topic especially if everyone else looks like they aren’t really acknowledging what he’s saying.
@@10whiten99 no blessing is just not ready for this imo. In terms of knowledge, charisma and presenting his lacking. I think KF just got romanticized by hiring from the community and honeslty it puts me off watching or listening because he goes round in circles and doesnt have any of his own opinions or points. But the community seems to keep singing his praises, saying his doing a fantastic job and is the new messiah of video games so nothing will change anytime soon. I get he could be nervous but making actual points and being able to read stuff is pretty basic. If no one gives him constrcutive criticsm he will stay like this unfortunatley. All he did in the livestream was constantly talk about sonys cutaway graphics over and over. Sadly the only time KF games is worth watching now is for Greg, Tim and Gary. Ive gone from watching everyday to once or twice a week at most. Mainly just for Whitta Wednesday. Colins ps podcast is levels above ps i love you
Does Joel ever do a McGonagall impression to lighten the mood? “CHILDREN!”
Sadly, no. - Greg
Sthaman Sinha Do you have the game
@Sthaman Sinha Soo...that means...you should...come on, you can do it I believe in you..
@@madrocts "shut up" is that you're trying to say.
yes or maybe point to reviews who in spoiler free way confirms that the leaks are true?
@@madrocts he's right about Joel's head being smashed with golf club by a character called Abby early in the game. This review doesn't mention Abby although he/she is a main playable character
Guys, thank you for this.
I finished the game and it's my GOAT. The first was my favourite but it has been surpassed. Last month I was diagnosed with Complex Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. And without getting into spoilers, there's a theme of that here and it shows me how powerful this art form is.
I thank you guys and the commenters because this is one of of not the only safe places to discuss this game. The reaction and internet effect on this game has been so toxic that it hurts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I get that. But people are trying to #cancel this game and the people involved and it makes me hurt.
Don't ruin things other people love. Say your opinion that's fine but don't make an effort on ruining what other people love. Just don't involve yourself with the piece of art form you don't enjoy. I hate the film suicide squad, but I don't constantly bash people who enjoyed it and I don't seek out the creators.
Just wanted to share. Thanks everyone. X
I want to thank you for your comment dude, when I beat the game I thought about the violence and cycle of hate, but I most certainly thought more about the struggle of mental illness, specifically in this case PTSD. Don’t wanna get into spoiler territory either but I definitely feel awful for the characters and what they have to go through
I have to replay the first one to make sure if I liked it better or not, but doesn’t change to me that this second one told a bold story itself and I think they did really good for what they worked with.
You’re right about what you said, the toxic issue is people are actually putting in effort to ruin the game for others. In this case, you can tell me different but you cannot convince me otherwise, that’s how I tend to agree to disagree. But the toxicity that someone goes through a lot of energy that can be put elsewhere, put into trying to ruin it for others is irresponsible.
That said, there is no denying it now. The Last of Us as a franchise is powerful.
The Last of Us is my favorite game of all time. Naughty Dog is my favorite developer. I didn't need to stay up for these reviews but I did because of my excitement. I had no idea these scores and opinions could increase the amount of excitement I already had. 1 week everyone!!
96 metascore doesnt lie
@@gerritbosch5269 you guys are being tricked...the reason why its 96 Is because people were blackmailed with early copies that were free!
Please this naughty dog is not the same as the one that made the 1st game. Did any of you not see the spoilers? I wont spoil anything but it's a game that completely disregards the storyline of the 1st I guess.
GTR Rohit my guy, practically every studio gives out free review keys.
@@tirednoise which is basically making reviewers biased no
@Rosencrantz I just want ppl to be aware that's all. This game caused a lot of division
I think it's great that Naughty Dog is really pushing what a game can be and where it can go and just how far it can push the boundaries of a videogame
This game has always been on my mind ever since I bought my PS4 at launch. The wait is nearly over.
SAME.
It’s a beautifully made game. As a stand-alone game, it’s great. As a sequel to the first last of us, I didn’t like it so much. Kindof reminds me of last Jedi
If you walked into this game thinking Joel was going to live you weren’t paying attention to the first game.
I agree. As the last Jedi aged though, I warmed up to it a bit more so I hope that happens with TLOU 2. The writing was super cheese ball at times with the repeated cliches and heavy handed themes. Greg is right though, characters are great (for the most part) technically great, accessibility options are great, fun gameplay, but it overstays it's welcome as the gameplay and dialogue become repetitive towards the end. The whole reliance on flashbacks is so annoying because they add so much to Joel's death and it's so weird that they killed the character then made it satisfying a dozen hours later. Tyler the fact that you immediately assume OPs problem shows that you need to listen and pay attention to people who have legit criticism. They probably should have got at least one person with a slightly different opinion.
I'm so happy you guys loved it! The first one truly changed my life in a myriad of ways, mainly in the way that I approach being a better big brother to all of my younger siblings. Super excited for this game!
Hi Greg, I have an important question: if I want to look every corner of the game and find most of the manuals and other collectible stuff, will I lose the tension and rythme of the story ? I mean if I spend lotta time in each level for my first playthrough, will it come to a point that the narrative and cut scense lost their meaning ?
I did that, and I didn't feel like I lost anything. - greg
@@KindaFunnyGames tnxxxx
I love how positive this comment section is.
they all are bots or fake accounts lmao
Love seeing steimer on kinda funny content. Would be awesome to see more of here here!
She's always welcome! - Greg
Thanks for introducing me to Kristine Steimer! So insightful, and she actually journaled her play-through! Been waiting for video games criticism to reach the in-depth and academic level movie criticism is at, but I suppose video game story telling had to transcend first! Long live Kristine Ebert!
Is the soundtrack still as tearjerking as part 1’s?
Fantastic question!!!😳
The soundtrack is on another level. - Greg
The trailer we saw with ellie and her guitar hit me hard
I'm replaying TLOU right now and am realizing finally that the soundtrack is one of the BEST PARTS of the game, and that's saying something. Gives me chills every time I play.
Today is the day i realized how many things are wrong with the gaming community.
Please elaborate.
@@adg7147 Gamers are the most entitled group of consumers that want everything to be pandered to them no matter what.
Sad isn’t it? This game pushes the medium so far forward in every respect, but unfortunately the subject matter is too mature for the majority of the gaming audience I guess. All people can see is “revenge is bad” which not even remotely close to the point of this game. Plus they have such a boner for Joel which they are unable to let go of. I could understand if Joel was a standard hero but he is far from it. It’s sad the gaming community cannot open their minds. It shows how closed minded they continue to be. I really feel bad for Naughty Dog and Neil who so plainly poured their hearts and souls into this project and half the people just turn around and call awful, lazy, garbage, etc. Mostly because the subject matter clearly flew over their heads
eatZeppelin problem is if someone doesn’t agree with that then he is a republican bigot. I’m a liberal and I think the game is good but not the master piece they make it seem.
Been waiting for this review...today’s been a good day for PlayStation fans
Oof
They mislead you. The game was shit.
I just started my 2nd play through of this game and what Steimer says in this review about not letting the internet ruin her experience is resonating with me SO HARD right now lol.. I think she mentioned how she was able to ignore the internet and be willing to let the game take her where it wants and yeah, I'm having the same experience now that the internet has quieted down and it's just so damn good. Like I can't really articulate in an - off the top of the head TH-cam comment, but it's flat out amazing. And an amazing case study into how an internet hive mind can effect your perception of something real.
I have to say, my original plan for TLoU2 reviews was to ignore them, and play it. But I had a part spoiled for me, and all of the anger and hatred on the internet made me nervous. Hearing you say it was masterpiece almost made me cry tears of happiness. Thank you Greg.
Greg, if you're seeing this, just a quick shoutout to you and the Kinda Funny crew. Watching/listening to all of y'all on a level of passion that is not matched in this industry is so inspiring. Fucking love you dudes. Can't wait for Last of Us Part II.
Thanks!
Whether of happiness, sadness, joy, anger (no need to specify) -- Greg, did you cry?
I teared up a couple of times. - Greg
Can’t wait to play it. The first one is my favourite game of all time.
Watching Bless at 1:03:50 talking about how Cyberpunk might be on the same level. Oh sweet summer child, what simpler times these were so long ago. Ha ha.
Take a shot every time Blessing says Like.
You would be extremely drunk in a few minutes
Like like like like ... Dude, it's hard to listen to him.
@@panchopenumbra and he completely dominates conversations with these like-fests. I appreciate the guy, but you have to be able to articulate yourself in the moment. I could tell Steimer wasn't really diggin it either.
I’ve finished the last of us 4 times. I’m more than ready for part 2.
I'm finishing it for the first time right now.
Red Dead Web-Head - you should stop there man. The story in PART II is garbage af
Poor boi. Welcome to 2020
@@reddeadweb-head6796 thoughts?
I am totally disgusted with the game waited 7 years for that shit. Whoever made the GOT season 8 comparison was spot on.
Hey Greg. One question: Does the shotgun feel good?
OH BABY YES. - Greg
Are the supporting characters on the same level as a Sam, Henry, or a bill?
They're better. - Greg
No. They are interchangeable and are all assholes and not interesting at all. No one has any redeemable qualities unlike the first game.
Hadrian Veska you played the whole game already?
@@ancientflames Hater. The game has a 96 on metacritic. You haven't even played so your opinion is invalid.
Rayyan He watched skill up’s review and cooped his opinions so he can justify he his own pre-conceived notions about the game lmao, and that review was essentially “i don’t like the story direction, therefore the entire game is bad” Don’t worry about this guy. I’m sure they’re all well written like every character in the entirety of Neil’s previous writing works.
Got a PS5 and just started playing through the PS4 library. Haven't had a playstation since PS2. About 7 hours into last of us 2, and i'm already ready to call it a masterpiece.
The real question is of course: how’s the trophy list look?
Covered in the review, but in short, it's great! - Greg
Kinda Funny Games oh man, sorry, watching on the tv right now.
Man this next week of waiting is gonna be tough.
Greg Miller Reviews have evolved to a level where it is extremely detailed. Big time respect, Thanks for all the positivity you bring to the industry and Happy PlayStation 5 Day!
I can't agree that it is Naughty Dog's best. The first game was better. Part II was really good, but I think the original game was able to bring me a wider array of emotions. Part II was only about sadness and anger. I thought the original game had more hook moments as well, the moments you want to look up on TH-cam and see other people's first time reactions to them. I thought the music was its own character in the original too, while it was a little too forced in Part II. Part II also dragged on at the end, and that was probably intentional.
Also, as someone who did the game almost 100% stealth, and like Kristine, I will sit and watch an enemy for minutes, they usually did have a set path to follow. It may have been complicated, or they may have started out in another location and traveled one time on a path to get to their set path, but they usually had a set path until alerted.
I definitely felt there were moments where it was obvious it was game. Like the way the enemies would react when they found multiple bodies in a row, and blurt out the same line of dialogue seconds apart.
What really ticked me off, was my AI allies running around when I was in stealth mode, and knocking me off a wall I was hiding behind right into the path of an enemy. Why do my AI allies need to run around when I am still?
The one part of the game where I thought someone just swung out of character was
spoiler below
When Tommy came and got pissed at Ellie for not wanting to go after Abby in Santa Barbara. At the beginning of the game, Tommy almost seemed reluctant to get Ellie involved, and seemed reluctant to get revenge himself. After all the crap they went through I thought it was odd the way he snapped at her. I guess nearly being killed, and losing an eye and probably part of his brain might have done that to him. Plus there is just a lot of story we didn't get to see between Abby leaving him for dead in Seattle and when he arrived at Ellie and Dina's farm.
Hey Greg, I don't have a question I just want to say thank you for going above and beyond for us today. You're such an inspiration, and your dedication to providing us with quality content is more than I could ask for! We appreciate you!
I know I say it as a sign off, but it's literally my pleasure to serve you. - Greg
Hi Greg, do you think the experience will be diminished if I last played the first game 5 years ago? Do you recommend watching cutscenes of the first game on TH-cam to prepare or should I be fine with a general knowledge of the overall story beats from the first game?
whoops just realized this may be difficult to answer without spoilers
I'd watch a recap to freshen up. - Greg
I absolutely can’t wait to play this game. next friday can’t come soon enough.
Here's a question, anyone can answer, really. When did you realize that Tess was the same age as Joel's daughter, Sarah (or, at least, as old as Sarah would've been)?
Today year's old. - Greg
@@KindaFunnyGames, you're welcome :)
@@KindaFunnyGames, and thanks again!
I never knew that. I guess you learn something new everyday. Interesting to say the least.
Im so excited for this, im stealing my brothers PS4 just to play this
Gosh this made me so happy. With so much happening in the world, this and the PS5 reveal today gave me so much joy. Thank you Greg and the rest of the KF crew!
TY for the awesome coverage today! Was your experience significantly harmed by spoilers? I think any fan with common sense knows the game couldn't be summed up by a single sentence that the trolls were throwing around.
It wasn't! - Greg
@@KindaFunnyGames Schweet! But now the real question, can you text Shu and get dat PS5 price lol?
This the only review im going to watch before i play the game! Yall did a good job respecting the experience of other gamers.👍
Remember Beyond With Colin ,,,,Yeah i miss that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Even if you don’t read the letter, the safes make a audio que when you get the right number. One time I found the safe before letter for the code and I just listen the ques and find the letters later.
Now a 96 on metacritic
*95 actually
From gamers or from journalists being in on the right side? Just wondering, seen a few serious Youtubuers who are more balanced.
I'm late but what difficulty would you recommend to start?
I don't really have a question. I just wanted to say that I am really intrigued where the story goes!
I am happy to hear that the game lives up to expectations!
Greg! Quick question... The Last Of Us 2 > God Of War 2018?
They are different beasts. This is a conversation to have when we can spoil stuff. - Greg
Really enjoyed the discussion the four of you guys had. Many of the other reviews were done by a single person so hearing 4 people actually play the game and talk about it is super cool. First video I watched from you guys and I really enjoyed!
Speaking of the ai in this game. I played on survival diffeculty and intially i wasnt able to find a way to exploit the ai because it's some of the best ai in any video game ever if not the best. Eventually i was able find areas where i could make for Choke points where i could funnel them in like on top of a roof car park etc , but even then you have to be careful because the Levels and the structures are built so they can Flank you. The best Choke points to funnel enemies are garage with one ladder then you know where they will come and you can sit and hide behind cover and kite them around until they turn their back for stealth kill.
Also Greg, whenever you get the chance, please try to give RDR2 another go in the future. The world is incredibly immersive and the gang of characters are all so well fleshed out. I think the character archs, particularly of Arthur Morgan, Dutch and John Marston are the best I’ve ever seen in a game. Anyway, love watching you guys! Been really getting into your podcasts since quarantine began.
I will wait for a review from people that didn’t get a early free copy
Reviews from those not "incentivized" to spin the narrative is always more reliable than these shills.
I'm playing the TLoU remastered right now. I already preordered part 2, because of last week's state of play. Should I wait to listen to this until I beat 1? I have had the ending spoiled of part 1 for me already.
Nah, this is Spoiler free. - Greg
Definitely finish the game dude..it's worth it even if it's spoiled for you so you still have context going into the new game. Plus it's just an awesome game regardless.
Greg, how do you do your hair? I like your hair and I need to do something with mine. Mine kinda just lays there. Do you blow-dry? Gel? Blow-dry, then gel? Everyday? Even on days you don't shampoo?
I fell in love with beyond around the time the last of us 1 came out , after beating it I needed to hear some body talk about this experience and you and Colin were there. This makes me miss you guys together good job tho Greg you’re the fucking man
Anthony Fuentes you mean beyond: two souls?
44:50 I would like for these guys to talk about RedDead Redemption 2 in retrospect cos I would like to see if Greg’s opinion has changed on it
I got this spoiled for me but still I can't wait to play on release! That is the greatness of this franchise and Naughty Dog.
It was "spoiled" for me, but that wasn't even the tip of the iceberg. - Greg
I'll just say that some of the spoilers out there are fake, only half true, or lucky guesses.
Hey guys! I haven’t watched the full video and I probably should! But wanted to ask, do outfits change a lot throughout the game? I have the suspicion that they might? Loved the outfit changes throughout the first game.
Does Ellie have her joke book from part 1? Lol
What difficulty would you recommend starting off playing the game? I platinumed the first one twice (ps3 and ps4 remastered). I love a good challenge but know I’ll play it at least a few times
Hey Greg, hope you had a great day as we all did. My question is did the spoilers leak somehow affect you how the game landed with you?
No. Hard to talk about here, but we will in the Spoilercast. - Greg
@@KindaFunnyGames Thanks Greg, I'll wait for the spoilercast. My pre-order just started downloading, can't wait to play.
Yo man, how’s the game? Have you finished?
Tip for the safe puzzles. You don't need to find the combos. You can hear the click when the right number is cycled through. Works every time.
wait a second, am i dreaming, i genuinely dont know, literally everyone is saying this game is 10/10 and a masterpiece, its everything i was hoping for
Only one that gave it a 8/10 is Gamespot
You are awake and this is great. - Greg
Right now it has a higher meta critic than TLOU 1
Do u guys think it's going to be a Part 3 to TLOU
I agree the game is good and whatnot but comparing the gameplay with MGSV there is where I totally disagree in fact one of the things that I didn’t like about tlous 2 were the encounters and how they were designed like sometimes it felt they invited you to sneak but most of the times you start an encounter with a very compromised position making combat unavoidable also the level of polish in this game didn’t seem on par with other naughty dog games.
Hey Greg! Love you man! Been watching Kinda Funny the past 4 years since I was 15! Can't wait to play this game next Friday. You and the rest of the crew keep up the amazing work as content creators and human beings! ❤️
Thanks, Riley! - Greg
Hey Greg, quick-n-dumb question. I've been playing the original PS3 version of the first game lately in anticipation for this one, in which you aim and shoot with the bumpers (L1 & R1) instead of the triggers. I've started to get used to it, is there an option in the TLoU2 to set the controls to bumpers instead of triggers so I don't have to re-learn what button does what?
I never checked, but I think you can remap EVERYTHING, so you should be ok? - Greg
Hey Greg! No questions because I know you will cover everything in the review, just wanted to say how much I've admired your work ethic and impact you've had for gaming journalism, coming from a journalism major. Thank you for all you've done, and I hope to be half as good as you one day!
Thanks, Chris! - Greg
You cannot trust many of these guys, those in the media that is..
Corporate sites are hugely dependent on high profile titles such as this because they equal hits; the more hits, the more attractive the site will be to advertisers & sponsors. The revenue generated from residuals is huge. Falling out with a publisher will mean losses, a lot of them.
Access. Then there's privilege that are the 'access' benefits, journalists love their (early) review copies, their (paid for) trips to studios, press & launch events, the copious amount of freebies, the exclusive interviews. Many of these journalists cast aside their integrity & professionalism in order to maintain good relations. 50 sites have given this game the perfect score, yet when you read many of these reviews, it's apparent that not only is the game not perfect, its far from it.
Bonuses. Developers are known to receive bonuses based on review scores. There was a case where the Fallout: New Vegas developers missed out on their dividends because the game fell one percent shy of its review target. Some 'Journalists'-- because they are pally and sympathetic (crunch culture) towards developers -- might inflate their scores to help the game makers score their bonus. Admirable if so, but it's another case of failing your readers/viewers.
A reviewers political leanings can also factor in to a positive score; if a game features 'progressive' values - female lead, sidelining 'toxic' white males, elevating lgbtq characters, multi ethnic representation, a critique of capitalism (ironic given how much these journalists/companies benefit from the free market system), pushing the systemic hate narrative towards women, ,ethnic minorities, homosexuals & the trans community, portraying religion in a poor light & so on...... the activ..journalist will be inclined to dish out a high score. Conversely, we see games that are historically accurate receiving negative attention because they don't retrofit the cultural make up of 21st century Western society into games that were set half a millennia ago: case in point Eurogamer's Review of Kingdom Come Deliverance, in which they were upset at the games lack of representation?? If they're being morally/intellectually consistent they will mark down Ghost of Tsushima if that game does not feature a racially diverse set of characters/NPC's.
Virtue signalling to appease the progressive hivemind mentality that is so pervasive among their peers & on social media, particularly the likes of those on Twitter.
Progressive reviewers love to upset those who do not comply with their world views. They will deliberately score progressive/woke games higher to annoy those whom they perceive & paint (with such broad strokes) as being toxic, racist, sexist, problematic, haters etc. They also push these high scores out in an effort to see their progressive messages being amplified, another avenue for social conditioning. A good example of this was the overly generous scores that were given to the objectively mediocre film, Captain Marvel.
Ghostbusters was univerally panned. You have no point at all.
Alright. I saw the IGN score before coming here. I’m so hyped up for TLOUP2 that I’m out here screaming like SnowBikeMike! Greg, what does a video game need for you to coin it a “masterpiece?”
Succeed at nearly everything it attempts. - Greg
boring GAYme it is all about lesbian that save the world
Chrollo Lucilfer Grow up, the only reason I’m not flaming you is cuz u watch hunter
Finished it just now and thinking it might have replaced mass effect 2 as my greatest game of all time.
Amazing input guys! I was waiting for the reviews since I loved the first game and I was hopeful but a little scared because of the negativity around it but hearing you guys talking about it made me preorder. Can't wait to experience it myself Thank you guys
I feel like the people who hate this game based solely on leaks but haven't played it. Is the equivalent to Sam I am from "Geen Eggs and Ham." They dont know why they hate it, they just do...
@@ebrahiem7118 Joel murdered innocent people. Then faced the consequences. Especially Jerry (Abby's dad) and Marlene who did nothing wrong. In a realistic world, murder doesn't come with a fantastic Michael Bay slow mo heroic explosion and poetic last words. "Those who live by the sword, die by the sword."
I haven't played Fallout 76 and I know that game was a pos during launch.
Alright.. I am going to have to play this game. I was planning on watching it, but I need to experience this one
I literally just completed last of us part 2, really enjoyed playing it and completely understand people's criticisms towards it mostly for it's story, for me personally I play games for gameplay and mechanics which is what this game apsolutely nails, having a good story keeps the player attached to the game but for me personally it doesn't matter that much
Game of the generation!!
Part one wrapped up one era. Part two closes out the next.
Who wanna bet that part three will close the ps5?
stop it
I really do hope so!
westerners lmao
I love the subway section. I was able to get through it with out fighting anyone in my second run of the game. When the WLF were looking for Ellie and Dina I through a brick at the wall and the clickers ran out to investigate the sound and the WLF ran to that location and got attacked. Whilst the clickers were eating them I sneaked through the train carriages and opened the door without any problems loved it. First time I played did not run so smoothly. I love this game for its replayability. I literally have discovered brand new locations in my second run through.
Legit that moment when I was crawling through the train while the clickers went for the wlf , the light was covered with the glow of flares and that deep drumbeat I thought to myself this is the best thing I’ve experienced in any media
I think this game is going to be the make or break moment for the "Games as Art" movement. Either gamers are going to be mature enough to accept that bad things can happen to your faves and not everything in gaming HAS to be wish fulfillment, or they reject it because "agenda".
This 10000%
It was almost MGSV, but there weren't enough ranged stealth options (until the end). Unless you're going guns blazing or are playing on lower resource difficulty, you're having to sneak all the way up to enemies too much. Still a great game though.
Yo Greg! Listening now. My question is... while I do understand that this is mainly narrative driven, are there any cool replay-ability mechanics? (ie. side missions, collectibles, bases to clear) really want some intricacies that keep me micro managing. However, I know this will awe me regardless. Love the stuff you guys do so please continue to do it. Thanks bro!
Collectibles. It's a really good Plat. - Greg
Can’t wait. Thanks my guy
From what other reviewers have talked about there are huge level full of nooks and crannies to be explored and with puzzles. Sometimes transversed by vehicles. Kind of like UC4 and the Lost Legacy.
Really great discussion, but you guys need to be better and more aware of guests who join discussions because the habit of talking over them can be frustrating. Greg seems like the only one really aware of it and actively tries to give guests the floor. Anytime a show is more than one on one this happens.
Greg caught me by surprise with "Masterpiece" after coming back from a video review done by SkillUp where his exact words are "I Don't Like The Game"
@Honk Honk Hey man, shit like this is subjective, for example.. Shawshank redemption one of the greatest movies out there-- intrudeced the movie to two of my friends.. One thought it was "alright" the other slept through a few scenes due to the fact that it was "boring" however that doesn't take away from the fact that it's a highly acclaimed movie. My word of advice, find a reviewer that you trust and generally has the same subjective views as you or make your own decision, I go with the second option.. If I had listened to the reviews I probably wouldn't have played Days gone (a highly anticipated playstation exclusive)-- I understand why people didn't like it but I was surprised how much fun I had, maybe I went in with low expectations.
ND hasn't disappointed me in a long time, maybe uncharted 3 slightly but so far they have produced some of the greatest games for playstation and based on that I'm going to buy the game but that's my opinion.
skillup demolished the game with an actual review. the jump mechanic serves no purpose, the dodge button is just for quicktime events, and the story is childish and awful. and ND did not allow you to mention the main character from the last 60% of the game.
@@richardcarson3596 skill up review purpose only for view n click, he success when every hater flocking n pointing his review as the only honest one.
Hey small question how loud did your ps4 get while playing TLOU2
Mine didn't. Tim's sounded like it was going to explode. - Greg
Interesting that no one is mentioning anything about the story.
That's the thing... Say what you will about the story (eventually). Be it great or garbage. [We'll see. I've seen the leaks so idk... I'll hold my own personal final judgment for myself until after the game releases and gameplay is out there.]
The one thing Naughty Dog can be greatly credited for of which they have a consistent track record for is literally EVERYTHING ELSE.
Who they chose in their voice cast, the choice actors performances themselves, the detailed environments, scenery, and worlds, the stealth and gameplay is usually always pretty good, and the music/ compositions for each game is almost always fantastic.
In terms of everything else, yeah, Naughty dog games can be a masterpiece in terms of the artistry. It's that story though.... That's where it may keep it from being a complete masterpiece.
UpintheAir1395 it was actually the story that carried part 1 and the way I would phrase it is that the gameplay was just ‘there’. The last of us part 1 is my favourite video game ever, period and the sketchy gameplay makes it actually feel like a video game rather than a movie. It was in my mind; perfect and I hope part 2 can hold up.
Or just experience yourself
NDA says they can't.
Greg, what difficulty setting do you recommend for the first playthrough for a TLoU veteran who understands the game mechanics well? And listen mode on or off?
You know me: I play on normal. - Greg
Did it, in fact, "Out-Metal Gear" Metal Gear? Much love to you Greg, Blessing, Tim, and Steimer!
I mean, no? It's not trying to have the crazy weapons and over the top action. It melds that with TLOU. - Greg
@@KindaFunnyGames That's great. I love the complexity of the stealth mechanics we've already seen in the game, and I was definitely excited when you had made a similar comparison about the stealth in the preview. I cannot wait to get my hands on it next week.
I just started giving MGSV another chance, that game is so disappointing and definitely last place in the series ranking. Even the 'Gameplay is good' stance falls flat when you realize you are doing the same extraction missions over and over again with a limited supply of weapons at your disposal at any given moment.
DestructableMe True....But the freedom of tackling the missions your way is still fun to me lol I never beat MGSV but I’ll always appreciate the time I spent playing it.
@@josephsua7246 Give it another shot, tackling missions 'the way you want to' isn't as prevalent as you thought, most of the weapons and perks are locked behind economy micro managing/time to develop mechanics.
The world is barren except at outposts.
MGSV actually elevated MGS4's experience.
11:00 Tim, MGSV is one of my favourite games of all time, not because I necessarily enjoyed the story (amongst Metal Gear, it's in the middle), but the gameplay is so close to perfect. If this feels as good and rewards you just as well, I'm definitely in.
Just started Pre-Downloading the Game, im counting the hours till release...
Couldn’t find anywhere that it lets you pre-download. Assuming you bought it from ps store?
Same here‼️
Kiernan Smith yeah the ps store let’s u pre download
Jordan Miller thanks. I was 99% sure but it’s been awhile and I mostly buy physical copies so wanted to make sure
@@Smitty9430 yep i did, i assume the early download is cuz of the big file...
The game does allow you to just escape fights and run to where you need to go. The reason I usually systematically killed everyone and their dog was so I could take my time and comb through the area for resources and letters that would give clues for safe combinations and other information that would tell me more about the games world and story. Now that I’m playing new game plus mode and have the training books and gun upgrades I will probably try to escape and run more to avoid fighting WLF and scars.
Runing away? That's no fun hahhaha No i am in my second playtrough on survivor+ i play without listen mode, and this game is freaking intense!!! And btw did you know you can crack safes just by listening to the clicks!! So many incredible details in this game!!