One of the kinda funny podcasts needs to be focused on the world of snow bike: how and where is he getting all this money? Why is he so weird with food? - We need to know.
Lol well realistically he seems to have a very disposable income. Doesn’t have any kids and might own his car (no car payments) and may even own his house too. That can all go a long way.
Also where did he get a snow bike and how does he stop it from melting? Is it all made of snow or does it have rubber tires? These are the burning questions I have that need a Mike special to answer them.
IGN (via NX Gamer) uploaded their performance review and if you have a VRR display, there’s no reason not to use Fidelity Mode. Fidelity Mode with VRR gives you full 4K and a 45-50fps range which will feel silky smooth and look immaculate. This is the way to go.
Parris gave me the answer I was looking for. As much as I love TLoU, I've played through the original and the PS4 remaster numerous times. I'll most likely pick this up later on at a discount because I'm just not in a hurry to go back when it's still so fresh in my mind. Thanks Parris!
You’re asking if 4 seasoned industry insiders who love video games with their whole hearts would purchase a game that is considered one of the pinnacles of gaming in the form of a end to end re-flesh? What do you think John. Please. Go on. Tell us. 😐
Dude I’ll be in shock if you’ve been able to avoid some spoilers, but regardless I imagine playing both 1 and 2 back to back for the first time with these great graphics and animations will be awesome! Get ready for an emotional rollercoaster lol
38:00 I'm glad Bear mentioned that the conversation around this is muddy and weird. It is for new players. If you are on the fence it's not for you until it's probably on sell or not at all.
It's for those who haven't played it (lucky) and for fans that want to see the raw emotion that couldn't be made on ps3 hardware. It's really a different experience not seeing barely emotional hard edged faces from the original. Seeing the tears drip off Joel's nose in the intro hit like f-ing hammers.
I think the term cash grab gets too much flak. Like yeah, it’s trying to make money and capitalize on the show’s hype so it’s a cash grab. It also seems to be made by devs that care deeply about the IP and did some great work. It’s awesome that people who have never played will get to experience a brand new version of the game.
You can’t just say “performance mode is the way to go” when these amazing 40fps in a 120hz container modes are available. This is how I played Forbidden West on my new OLED and how I will play TLOU Part One. You get the full fidelity bells and whistles and 40fps feels wayyy smoother than 30. It’s literally the best of both worlds.
@@zackmanze I just came here from watching NXGamer/IGN’s performance review and with a VRR display you get full Fidelity Mode output at 45-50fps. That’s amazing. Definitely the best way to play it IMO
@@zackmanze I’ll never recommend anyone pick 30 fps over 60. If those are your two options, always go 60. But if you have an HDMI 2.1 display, these games with VRR Fidelity modes are dynamite. Someone else posted that IGN found the Fidelity VRR mode to offer the full 4K resolution and settings at an FPS range of 45-50. With VRR that’s gonna feel amazing and look pristine. Forbidden West does the same thing with VRR and Fidelity (they just call it balanced mode).
But did petting the giraffe with the Dualsense really feel like the real thing ?!?! Missing out on the real, hard-hitting questions we need answered. :(
It's also important to note that The Last Of Us Part 2 came out just 2 years ago. So, Naughty Dog probably wants you to still feel the jump from Part 1 to Part 2. Meaning, if you had the gameplay in Part 1 the same as Part 2, there would be no incentive to play Part 2 again other than the story. And, as Blessing said, the gameplay of Part 1 is practically essential to the true experience of the original game. At the end of the day, these are still two very different games and I think it's still important to feel that difference, especially for those who have never played Part 1 and Part 2.
It’s so funny for me to hear Greg talking about struggling to play TLOU after years removed from it when I’m over here replaying it like 4 times a year 😬🤣
Slight misconceptions about the 1440P option on PS5. That is only for monitors that output at 1440P. The 1440P resolution in Last of Us Part 1 in the performance mode is the internal rendering resolution. The output to the console will still be 4K as is set in your PS5's settings. It's being upscaled, of course. But that is entirely unrelated to the 1440P output resolution option added to the PS5 recently. So, if you have a 1440P monitor, and a game is rendering at 4K (native), it will be downscaled to 1440P to output to the monitor. That's what the PS5 used to lack. It would have to downscale all the way to 1080P on a 1440P monitor before the recent patch.
yup! sorry i may have misspoke but that's exactly what i was talking about. i have a 1440p monitor and it would default to 1080p since Sony used to give you only 1080 or 4K.
I agree with Andy/ Paris that 70$ is an absolute profit grab by Sony, and Greg is wrong for defending it, 70$ is already price gauging games. Why I say this, is that 70$ % goes mostly to the CEOs of said Developer companies, and NOT to the Devs workers pay rate % . That is why I'm totally against profit grabbing Companies lying " Excuse " why it needs to be 70$ and Especially for a 9yr 9ld base game with copy paste Last of of Part II graphics. IMPO
I think the game looks like an improvement across the board but I just can’t justify the price 😭 on PSN store in England it costs more than the new saints row
Not gonna lie this definitely should be a ps plus premium game..I refuse to pay $70 for this when I bought this on ps3 and ps4 lol I love the game but I’ll wait until it’s on a huge sale at least
That's any game. All new sony made games are that priced. I respect anyone who wants to wait but my god are the animations on a different level. Part 2 couldn't come close.
I'm looking forward to replaying it eventually but I have a feeling it will end up on PS Plus Extra next year at some point and I'll just play it then.
The beginning of Part 1 will forever be burned into my brain but with the remake it's even more so. The emotions that they can convey is haunting. Joel and Sarah in the end of the intro hit so much f-ing harder. I just wish I could've experienced this version as the 1st. Anyone know a non-permanent way to forget? 😆
I just do not understand how people can call something that is just a prettier version of an older product a "remake." The Bluepoint "remakes" certainly blurred the line between remakes and remasters for me and this does it even more. The experience of playing these games is fundamentally the same as they were when you originally played them. I think calling this a remake is just giving a win to Sony for essentially releasing the same game that came out a 9 years ago with updated visuals for $70 and it not even having the same amount of content. At least Demon's Souls looks significantly better and plays at a higher frame rate. I certainly wouldn't say the TLOU "remake" looks significantly better. It looks good, but the experience of playing it is essentially the same as it was on the PS3. I don't want to call this "lazy" but I will call it half-baked, unnecessary and absolutely a cash-grab by Sony.
I played last of us part one when I was 12 years old just having finished 7th grade and it’s a story that will stick with me forever easily in my top 3 favorite games of all time Ellie is easily one of my fav characters ever
I still think charging full price for a nearly decade old game is insane. Considering I got it day one and then got the remaster for PS4, I’ll just wait for this to be on sale. I’ll gladly spend $30, but $70 just feels like too much.. Also, god I’m hoping they announce PS Showcase for September already. I need to see Spidey 2 gameplay, a Wolverine trailer, and whatever other goodies they got in store!
@@jamiedeering3400 oh I know, but obviously the Marvel titles will still be on PS Showcase since they’re exclusives and some of the most anticipated games. I think we can get some trailers for the Disney showcase, but I feel Spidey gameplay with a proper release date will be on PS Showcase
I've probably beaten TLOU around 20 times. It is my favorite game with regards to gameplay. Also, I've already pre-ordered Part 1 and will be playing it day one.
I would say that The Last Of Us ( original game ) is an excellent game. But it's far from perfect. The gameplay is not on par with other games of it's genre. Story is fenomenal, but it is so good that it makes its flaws not too noticeable. I will play this version eventually. Maybe when it goes on sale in the future
Yes, the name calling thing would make sense for Part 1 too IMO. It's odd that the groups in part 2 care about each other enough to know each others names but in Part 1 they don't. It's weird that they left that out.
It does make sense given that majority of the people you kill are hunters that don’t give a rats ass about anyone, even their own. By the end you are just mowing down fireflies that there really isn’t enough time for them to care about the people they know that are dying. In Part 2 they establish that the Wolves are a tight knit community that go out on runs together in the same groups. It was implemented in Part 2 for a number of different reasons. To put it in Part 1 would have just been to copy what they did in Part 2 and not really to push the story or narrative forward. Also Joel doesn’t give a FUCK about anyone in Part 1. He’s a hardened person that has killed probably thousands of people in the last 20 years. In Part 2, Ellie was going down that same path. So the names being yelled out was also put there to show how killing the way she is, would be affecting her mentally and emotionally. Which is what Joel more than likely went through as well after outbreak day.
One of the biggest issues that modern gaming has. is we play a game once and throw it away. Games are forever. you don't need to beat it in a day. As long as your still alive you can play a game for the next 50 years. Reviews are based on people forced to beat it as fast as possible. Regular gamers can just take there time.
Demon Souls had access to the exact same hardware as Last of Us, Andy's assessment of value/worth feels like its punishing Naughty Dog's competence while rewarding From Software's incompetence. The only reason PS5's Demon Souls was more unanimously celebrated was because of how bad From is at making polished games compared to how good Bluepoint is. Demon Souls was also a lot more niche and TLOU as a brand has had a negative stigma online ever since part 2's leaks, a stigma that doesn't exist in the real world. Think about this, everyone's most anticipated re-release is PS4's Bloodborne even though all it REALLY needs is a patch, not double dipping. This isn't fair in my opinion, there needs to be a more equal measure of value, either criticize both or be fine with both. Where the conversation should've headed was whether or not these type of upgraded games need a discount for prior owners, which is probably more complicated for Demon Souls and PS3's TLOU to execute, but worth discussing none the less.
i'd agree with you if TLOU released in Feb 2009 with Demon's Souls but so many devs have said that early cycle PS3 games and late cycle PS3 games feel like two different eras. I'd agree with you even more if TLOU hadn't gotten a PS4 remaster.
@@TheAndyCortez The PS4 remaster is what should be criticized then (especially its price), not the remake. Also, Uncharted 2 released in 2009 and didn't have any of Demon Soul's issues. Naughty Dog has always released polished products, while From regularly struggles with optimization regardless of hardware.
I'm viewing this like how I view buying a 4K blu ray release of my favorite movie of all time when I already own multiple copies. Last of Us is in my top 5 favorite games, I'll get this eventually. Also my fav movie is Mad Max Fury Road, I own at least 5 copies of that movie.
My thing with The Last of Us Part 1 is… if they would have put that into PS Plus Extra day and date as an incentive to jump into that service rather than release it as a $70 title… I’d say it was a great move. But I played TLOU remastered on PS4 recently and it holds up great. I really don’t need this remake. And I just so would rather have had Naughty Dog working on something else/ something new, instead of spending time and resources on this.
Naughty dog is working on a lot of new things. This was made by a smaller group inside ND who would have had nothing to do but wait for pre-production of the other project to end. And it was the only project that was doable in a shorter time frame thanks to already existing assets from TLOU2. An Uncharted remake would have taken a lot more time and work
I'm one of the weird people that played Last of Us Part 2 and loved it but haven't played one(technically played like an hour and decided I didn't have time to beat it before 2) so I guess this games for me
52:49 Barrett, maybe as a 2nd playthrough you could play it that way, but Part 2 is told the way it is for a reason, emotionally. I feel like a complete reworked collection, with Part 3, is inevitable someday. It’ll be interesting to see how Neil shapes that.
Great review guys. Confirmed my expectations that this would be a big graphical upgrade but not too much else. The Last Of Us 1 and 2 are two of my favourite games ever so to me, like a classic movie/book/record it doesn’t need to be anything more than it is . It’s worth the asking price to me but if anyone is even a bit hesitant then it sounds like it’s going to be better to wait for the inevitable sale and get it then (which is good advice for games in general, not just a remake like this) or not but it at all. I’m in the UK so wasn’t able to buy the USA exclusive physical Firefly Edition but if it was available here, I would have bought that because I love the game so much. I wouldn’t do it for every game or every remake but similar to how Greg has mentioned in the past that he would sometimes buy DLC whether he intended to play through it or not just as a way of saying thank you to a developer for an experience he enjoyed this is what I feel like I’m doing here. I don’t need to buy or replay The Last of Us Part 1 but I want to so I can show my gratitude to Naughty Dog for giving me another excuse to play through this amazing game. And hopefully platinum this version too 🏆 Would I prefer it if was cheaper? Yes of course! But you could say that about everything (especially these days) but I don’t see it as a cash grab personally. Nobody needs to buy this or indeed any game ever! If you want it, buy it. If you don’t, then don’t. If you’re not sure it’s worth it, wait for the sale or don’t buy it at all and play the Remaster for free via PS Plus. Or don’t play it at all and play something else 🤷♂️
People who complain about paying a full price to do the same thing were silent on Demon's Souls and Shadow of the Collosus. Exact same games at full price. Don't want to pay? Don't. Wait. Get it for cheaper. Personally TLOU was and IS one of my favorite games of all time.
I don’t really like digging into the finances of people I don’t personally know… but Mike sells weed. The tarantula? His own personal invention and the Tahoe Stoners are smoking and toking those tarantula legs like there’s no tomorrow. It’s a fact. (also Mike streams a LOT and gets those donos and subs)
Xbox main. I bought Last of Us Part 1 at full price. I played the OG remaster about a year ago, before playing part 2. Then sold my ps5 after the fact. Just bought a ps5 again for exclusives (Kotor, final fantasy, spiderman etc) and of course for the last of us. Don't regret it. 10/10. Still have ps5 for exclusives.
Dodging wouldn't have added much. A few extra animations they already had with part 2. Prone, they would've needed a level redesign. There was nothing in the OG that required prone. The dodge would've been an easy fix in comparison. Part 1 made melee a last ditched effort instead of a usable solution that part 2 allowed.
I’m jealous of anyone who gets to play this version of TLOU for the first time! As for myself, I will definitely pick this up at some point, but def not for $70. I’m playing ME Legendary Edition for the first time and I’m glad I waited on that series!
I already played LoU 4 times (twice on PS3, twice on PS4) so I wouldn’t get this anyway, but pricing this at $70 when it’s missing multiplayer is pretty disappointing. I think $50 would have been a perfect price point.
If the game were cheap, I'd be all over this. But with the price of games going up and sales being less common due to supply issues. I can't justify the price. Here's hoping they include it with PS Plus Extra next year.
This may have been said but the team that made part 1 initially wanted and started to remake uncharted 1 to look like 4, but pivoted during development to the last of us
I am a massive LOU fan, PS3, PS4 day 1 purchase. I am not spending £70. PS4 version, had all the dlc including multiplayer maps and even that wasn't full price.
A new game that “looks” prettier, has a few different modes doesn’t change the fact that this isn’t a new game, it’s not even the first time they’ve remastered/ remade it. I’m genuinely happy that people like it but it’s in no way justified by the price.
Ellie doesn’t play with fireflies in this new version. It was such a beautiful moment in the original, an almost-necessary character development moment for her. Why would they omit this impromptu moment before Bills Town?
I prefer to think of it not as a"remake" or "remaster", it's a "re-application". They literally just repainted the game with all of last of us part 2's assets. But without the awesome multiplayer. This game is a ripoff at 70$/80€. If it was $50, I may have bought it, now I'm not going to buy it until it's used in the bargain bin for $20 or less.
I haven’t played through the game, and if this had the remastered Factions mode, I’d probably drop the cash on this-but since the PS4 version is free, I don’t think I’ll pay $70 for the visual upgrade. It really makes me appreciate Game Pass all the more since this is the type of first-party game that should be on PS Premium day one.
I have begun my play of this remake. I am pretty disappointed there was no added gameplay elements like going prone, dogs, dodge. I actually keep dying cause I keep trying to dodge like in Part 2. That being said, this game has absolutely wowed me on a visual level. I think visually it's even better than Part 2. I think the 70 dollar price point is steep but I don't think they could have made it this crisp without that price point.
Near the end of the game when Joel rescues Ellie from the surgery part one decided to add blaring alarms over the music as Joel tries to escape the hospital. Completely ruined the moment and I really don’t know why it was added
The last of us is one of my favorite franchises, I play it pretty regularly & I’m hyped to jump back in tomorrow night, the hardcore fans will buy this but if you’re just a casual fan there’s No need to get it right away,they can wait for it to go on sale. I agree with blessing part 1 doesn’t need a prone option or even a dodge.
Wow, the clip at 29:06 broke my brain. I thought, "Oh nice, they're going to do a comparison between the Remaster and the Remake of this walking scene" and then the clip ended. I guess THAT was the Remake scene? I genuinely thought it was the Remaster. I have seen clips that where things looks much better (especially puddles), but it still looks so, so similar to me.
The weirdest part is that TLOU REMASTER part of PS4 collection that comes with the PS5. Also, why wouldn’t PlayStation give this to us free in the hugest tier of PS Plus? I love this game and would replay it again, but not at $70, especially when I own the remaster (and possibly have it free as well!) Ironically, i have played part 1 at least 3-4 times. Part 2, only once and while I love that game too, it’s just too heavy for me to repeat (at least for awhile)
I call some games that feel in between "Remake" & "Remaster" : Remakesters, if that makes sense. There is just so many variables going on that make the new game the way it is that are considered under both categories. It is hard to just say it is one or the other. I cannot wait to dive into this version of the game and experience Naughty Dogs rebuild of the world.
It makes sense that this is the best way to play for new players - but I would guess that most current PS5 owners are seasoned fans and have already played previous versions. I'll pick it up on a sale.
Hey man, I just got the ps5 and I refused to play any other game til I first get a crack at Last of Us remake (never played it before), so excited to play it
I'm going to buy this game on steam to play it on the steam deck and for mods. I played TLOU at least 8 or 9 times all the way through most of those play through on the ps3 I really think the game should not have been $70 for what it is compared to other remakes. But being able to play it on a portable system I'd pay that to bad its not on a Sony handheld 😔
I beat the last of us remastered twice I did purchase the last of us remake ps5 day 1 and I am so happy with my purchase this is definitely the best way to play the game and the dualsense is absolutely amazing with this game hopefully they will remake part 2 but I must say i am definitely happy with the $70 purchase
The last of us a MASTERPIECE, one of the greatest games I've ever played. No one in their right mind would have thought this remake wouldn't get 10/10, 9/10. 5/5 type masterpiece level reviews, which it should. The problem with this game is them charging 70 dollars for a game that still runs super well. 50 dollars I think would be the perfect price point for a game like this and after everything sony has been doing recently, it just another tactic is squeezing ever since penny they can from their consumers while they make record profits. All of their marketing to for this game just seemed like them making excuses for them charging 70 dollars. I will 100% get this game once it drops to 30-40 because I'd love to play this game again, especially in a beautiful PS5 upgrade but let's call a spade a spade, Sony is getting the MO of becoming super anti-consumer and making super grimy decisions. Jim Ryan is doing everything opposite it seems of Shawn Layden and this can have long term effects for them imo.
One of the kinda funny podcasts needs to be focused on the world of snow bike: how and where is he getting all this money? Why is he so weird with food? - We need to know.
Lol well realistically he seems to have a very disposable income. Doesn’t have any kids and might own his car (no car payments) and may even own his house too. That can all go a long way.
Also where did he get a snow bike and how does he stop it from melting? Is it all made of snow or does it have rubber tires? These are the burning questions I have that need a Mike special to answer them.
Andy already killing it with the 'love handles' bit less than 3 mins into the show - bravo
Please let Parris speak next when he's politely raising his hand, and stop interrupting him when he finally is speaking, c'mon now guys.
They gave him plenty of chances to speak and when he did he just kept repeating the same thing over and over.
IGN (via NX Gamer) uploaded their performance review and if you have a VRR display, there’s no reason not to use Fidelity Mode. Fidelity Mode with VRR gives you full 4K and a 45-50fps range which will feel silky smooth and look immaculate. This is the way to go.
Parris gave me the answer I was looking for. As much as I love TLoU, I've played through the original and the PS4 remaster numerous times. I'll most likely pick this up later on at a discount because I'm just not in a hurry to go back when it's still so fresh in my mind. Thanks Parris!
Exactly this. If it comes to PC at a discount, I'll pick it up. Otherwise, plenty of other things to occupy my time.
I think if it had factions in this version, I would be happy to pay the $70
Exactly
Even with factions it should have been $60 tops. But this . . . Nope. For me, this will be a used purchase in a year or two.
Cope
My only question would be, if they hadn’t gotten codes for it, would they buy the game themselves?
This
You’re asking if 4 seasoned industry insiders who love video games with their whole hearts would purchase a game that is considered one of the pinnacles of gaming in the form of a end to end re-flesh? What do you think John. Please. Go on. Tell us. 😐
I would have liked to have seen some sort of stand - no acceptance of codes as they potentially disagreed with the cost of a 10 year old game remake.
@@Grant_Bennett no they wouldn't have
no lol
Great podcast with Greg, Blessing, Andy, Parris and Ben on drums.
48:30 Soundslike Benjamin's banging the Last of Us drum big time.
I've been an Xbox guy for the last couple generations, but my ps5 is coming in today and I can't wait to experience this story for the first time!
Dude I’ll be in shock if you’ve been able to avoid some spoilers, but regardless I imagine playing both 1 and 2 back to back for the first time with these great graphics and animations will be awesome! Get ready for an emotional rollercoaster lol
This game is what led to me to buy my first PlayStation. I had only owned Xbox since it came out - Sega products before that.
Congrats 👏🏾. You are in for a treat. This is one of those games that makes a person who only plays on Xbox definitely feel like they are missing out.
38:00 I'm glad Bear mentioned that the conversation around this is muddy and weird. It is for new players. If you are on the fence it's not for you until it's probably on sell or not at all.
It's for those who haven't played it (lucky) and for fans that want to see the raw emotion that couldn't be made on ps3 hardware. It's really a different experience not seeing barely emotional hard edged faces from the original. Seeing the tears drip off Joel's nose in the intro hit like f-ing hammers.
I think the term cash grab gets too much flak. Like yeah, it’s trying to make money and capitalize on the show’s hype so it’s a cash grab. It also seems to be made by devs that care deeply about the IP and did some great work. It’s awesome that people who have never played will get to experience a brand new version of the game.
You can’t just say “performance mode is the way to go” when these amazing 40fps in a 120hz container modes are available. This is how I played Forbidden West on my new OLED and how I will play TLOU Part One. You get the full fidelity bells and whistles and 40fps feels wayyy smoother than 30. It’s literally the best of both worlds.
I've only dabbled in it, but I still vastly prefer Performance mode. I didn't register much of a fidelity difference in Horizon at all.
@@zackmanze I just came here from watching NXGamer/IGN’s performance review and with a VRR display you get full Fidelity Mode output at 45-50fps. That’s amazing. Definitely the best way to play it IMO
@@zackmanze I’ll never recommend anyone pick 30 fps over 60. If those are your two options, always go 60. But if you have an HDMI 2.1 display, these games with VRR Fidelity modes are dynamite. Someone else posted that IGN found the Fidelity VRR mode to offer the full 4K resolution and settings at an FPS range of 45-50. With VRR that’s gonna feel amazing and look pristine. Forbidden West does the same thing with VRR and Fidelity (they just call it balanced mode).
But did petting the giraffe with the Dualsense really feel like the real thing ?!?!
Missing out on the real, hard-hitting questions we need answered. :(
It's also important to note that The Last Of Us Part 2 came out just 2 years ago. So, Naughty Dog probably wants you to still feel the jump from Part 1 to Part 2. Meaning, if you had the gameplay in Part 1 the same as Part 2, there would be no incentive to play Part 2 again other than the story. And, as Blessing said, the gameplay of Part 1 is practically essential to the true experience of the original game. At the end of the day, these are still two very different games and I think it's still important to feel that difference, especially for those who have never played Part 1 and Part 2.
I will absolutely buy this after the price drops or it goes on sale.
It’s so funny for me to hear Greg talking about struggling to play TLOU after years removed from it when I’m over here replaying it like 4 times a year 😬🤣
dont you have other games? lol
@@roysbedoys9536 of course
Slight misconceptions about the 1440P option on PS5. That is only for monitors that output at 1440P. The 1440P resolution in Last of Us Part 1 in the performance mode is the internal rendering resolution. The output to the console will still be 4K as is set in your PS5's settings. It's being upscaled, of course. But that is entirely unrelated to the 1440P output resolution option added to the PS5 recently. So, if you have a 1440P monitor, and a game is rendering at 4K (native), it will be downscaled to 1440P to output to the monitor. That's what the PS5 used to lack. It would have to downscale all the way to 1080P on a 1440P monitor before the recent patch.
yup! sorry i may have misspoke but that's exactly what i was talking about. i have a 1440p monitor and it would default to 1080p since Sony used to give you only 1080 or 4K.
@@TheAndyCortez all good in the hood! The Nitro Rifle is the most cash moniest of people on the internet. Love your content, my dude!
Love when Andy just brings the chaotic energy. It’s a different vibe, and I’m here for it.
I agree with Andy/ Paris that 70$ is an absolute profit grab by Sony, and Greg is wrong for defending it, 70$ is already price gauging games. Why I say this, is that 70$ % goes mostly to the CEOs of said Developer companies, and NOT to the Devs workers pay rate % . That is why I'm totally against profit grabbing Companies lying " Excuse " why it needs to be 70$ and Especially for a 9yr 9ld base game with copy paste Last of of Part II graphics. IMPO
I think the game looks like an improvement across the board but I just can’t justify the price 😭 on PSN store in England it costs more than the new saints row
well the new saints row is a garbage piece of trash so why even get it.
Lol even if you hate the price this remake is worth way more than saints row 🤣
@@derricklegassicke its not and that game is awful but its actually brand new.
Don’t get either
Well considering the new saints row game isn't worth the price of the disk it was distributed on this is still a better deal
Not gonna lie this definitely should be a ps plus premium game..I refuse to pay $70 for this when I bought this on ps3 and ps4 lol I love the game but I’ll wait until it’s on a huge sale at least
I REALLY want this game - I just can't justify $70 for it. I'm sincerely hoping the price comes down around the holiday sale season.
That's any game. All new sony made games are that priced. I respect anyone who wants to wait but my god are the animations on a different level. Part 2 couldn't come close.
Haven't play LoU since 2013 so I'm 100% on on this release.
I'm looking forward to replaying it eventually but I have a feeling it will end up on PS Plus Extra next year at some point and I'll just play it then.
As much as I love the Last of Us, I can't justify spending anywhere close to $70 on it.
I can
The beginning of Part 1 will forever be burned into my brain but with the remake it's even more so. The emotions that they can convey is haunting. Joel and Sarah in the end of the intro hit so much f-ing harder. I just wish I could've experienced this version as the 1st. Anyone know a non-permanent way to forget? 😆
Love the nuanced discussion, great job guys!
Can't justify the $70 price tag. Should have been $40
TLOU was already a masterpiece. I played TLOU on PS3 and PS4. I can't justify the time or money to buy it on a third console.
I just do not understand how people can call something that is just a prettier version of an older product a "remake." The Bluepoint "remakes" certainly blurred the line between remakes and remasters for me and this does it even more. The experience of playing these games is fundamentally the same as they were when you originally played them. I think calling this a remake is just giving a win to Sony for essentially releasing the same game that came out a 9 years ago with updated visuals for $70 and it not even having the same amount of content. At least Demon's Souls looks significantly better and plays at a higher frame rate. I certainly wouldn't say the TLOU "remake" looks significantly better. It looks good, but the experience of playing it is essentially the same as it was on the PS3. I don't want to call this "lazy" but I will call it half-baked, unnecessary and absolutely a cash-grab by Sony.
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I played last of us part one when I was 12 years old just having finished 7th grade and it’s a story that will stick with me forever easily in my top 3 favorite games of all time Ellie is easily one of my fav characters ever
I was 31 with a baby girl no older than a year old at the time when it came out. First 15 minutes will haunt me forever. Definitely top of my list.
This very much feels like a:
“Buy on sale” discussion.
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I still think charging full price for a nearly decade old game is insane. Considering I got it day one and then got the remaster for PS4, I’ll just wait for this to be on sale. I’ll gladly spend $30, but $70 just feels like too much..
Also, god I’m hoping they announce PS Showcase for September already. I need to see Spidey 2 gameplay, a Wolverine trailer, and whatever other goodies they got in store!
Disney/Marvel are doing a games showcase 9th September, Blessing is hosting it.
@@jamiedeering3400 oh I know, but obviously the Marvel titles will still be on PS Showcase since they’re exclusives and some of the most anticipated games. I think we can get some trailers for the Disney showcase, but I feel Spidey gameplay with a proper release date will be on PS Showcase
I've probably beaten TLOU around 20 times. It is my favorite game with regards to gameplay. Also, I've already pre-ordered Part 1 and will be playing it day one.
Same fucking here. The emotions they display are so much stringer now.
I would say that The Last Of Us ( original game ) is an excellent game. But it's far from perfect. The gameplay is not on par with other games of it's genre. Story is fenomenal, but it is so good that it makes its flaws not too noticeable.
I will play this version eventually. Maybe when it goes on sale in the future
Definitely looking forward to getting this at a discount (Hopefully at $50). Haven’t played it since release so I’ve forgotten many of the in between.
Yes, the name calling thing would make sense for Part 1 too IMO. It's odd that the groups in part 2 care about each other enough to know each others names but in Part 1 they don't. It's weird that they left that out.
It does make sense given that majority of the people you kill are hunters that don’t give a rats ass about anyone, even their own. By the end you are just mowing down fireflies that there really isn’t enough time for them to care about the people they know that are dying. In Part 2 they establish that the Wolves are a tight knit community that go out on runs together in the same groups. It was implemented in Part 2 for a number of different reasons. To put it in Part 1 would have just been to copy what they did in Part 2 and not really to push the story or narrative forward. Also Joel doesn’t give a FUCK about anyone in Part 1. He’s a hardened person that has killed probably thousands of people in the last 20 years. In Part 2, Ellie was going down that same path. So the names being yelled out was also put there to show how killing the way she is, would be affecting her mentally and emotionally. Which is what Joel more than likely went through as well after outbreak day.
One of the biggest issues that modern gaming has. is we play a game once and throw it away. Games are forever. you don't need to beat it in a day. As long as your still alive you can play a game for the next 50 years. Reviews are based on people forced to beat it as fast as possible. Regular gamers can just take there time.
Parris!!! Talk about an OG! Wish he was still doing The Balcony and I especially miss Remember When w/Jay!!
I'll pick it up when it (hopefully) goes on sale for Black Friday.
Demon Souls had access to the exact same hardware as Last of Us, Andy's assessment of value/worth feels like its punishing Naughty Dog's competence while rewarding From Software's incompetence. The only reason PS5's Demon Souls was more unanimously celebrated was because of how bad From is at making polished games compared to how good Bluepoint is. Demon Souls was also a lot more niche and TLOU as a brand has had a negative stigma online ever since part 2's leaks, a stigma that doesn't exist in the real world.
Think about this, everyone's most anticipated re-release is PS4's Bloodborne even though all it REALLY needs is a patch, not double dipping. This isn't fair in my opinion, there needs to be a more equal measure of value, either criticize both or be fine with both. Where the conversation should've headed was whether or not these type of upgraded games need a discount for prior owners, which is probably more complicated for Demon Souls and PS3's TLOU to execute, but worth discussing none the less.
i'd agree with you if TLOU released in Feb 2009 with Demon's Souls but so many devs have said that early cycle PS3 games and late cycle PS3 games feel like two different eras. I'd agree with you even more if TLOU hadn't gotten a PS4 remaster.
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The PS4 remaster is what should be criticized then (especially its price), not the remake. Also, Uncharted 2 released in 2009 and didn't have any of Demon Soul's issues. Naughty Dog has always released polished products, while From regularly struggles with optimization regardless of hardware.
I'm viewing this like how I view buying a 4K blu ray release of my favorite movie of all time when I already own multiple copies. Last of Us is in my top 5 favorite games, I'll get this eventually. Also my fav movie is Mad Max Fury Road, I own at least 5 copies of that movie.
Lol the skill up review is pushing copy’s it’s seems, congrats Sony, keep him on the good list!!
I was on the fence about buying it at $70 and now I think I will wait for a discount. Thank you!
Bens name is now Mini Mallet Miller lol Love that little guy.
TLOU on Friday, College Football kicks off Saturday, AND a long weekend!? Life ain't too bad at all...😊😊😊
This guy gets it!
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My thing with The Last of Us Part 1 is… if they would have put that into PS Plus Extra day and date as an incentive to jump into that service rather than release it as a $70 title… I’d say it was a great move. But I played TLOU remastered on PS4 recently and it holds up great. I really don’t need this remake. And I just so would rather have had Naughty Dog working on something else/ something new, instead of spending time and resources on this.
Yeah. They could have at least given PS+ Extra users a discount on it.
Naughty dog is working on a lot of new things. This was made by a smaller group inside ND who would have had nothing to do but wait for pre-production of the other project to end. And it was the only project that was doable in a shorter time frame thanks to already existing assets from TLOU2. An Uncharted remake would have taken a lot more time and work
“Day and date” Game Pass Brain Rot 🤪
I'm one of the weird people that played Last of Us Part 2 and loved it but haven't played one(technically played like an hour and decided I didn't have time to beat it before 2) so I guess this games for me
Y’all crushed it. 50 (or even 40) dollar price point would’ve definitely been preferred
52:49 Barrett, maybe as a 2nd playthrough you could play it that way, but Part 2 is told the way it is for a reason, emotionally.
I feel like a complete reworked collection, with Part 3, is inevitable someday. It’ll be interesting to see how Neil shapes that.
Yeah that would be a terrible change. The story and flashbacks were carefully told in a certain order and thats why it is so impactful
Solid discussion, guys!
Checking out Digital Foundry video when it's out. Good call, Andy
Great review guys. Confirmed my expectations that this would be a big graphical upgrade but not too much else.
The Last Of Us 1 and 2 are two of my favourite games ever so to me, like a classic movie/book/record it doesn’t need to be anything more than it is . It’s worth the asking price to me but if anyone is even a bit hesitant then it sounds like it’s going to be better to wait for the inevitable sale and get it then (which is good advice for games in general, not just a remake like this) or not but it at all.
I’m in the UK so wasn’t able to buy the USA exclusive physical Firefly Edition but if it was available here, I would have bought that because I love the game so much. I wouldn’t do it for every game or every remake but similar to how Greg has mentioned in the past that he would sometimes buy DLC whether he intended to play through it or not just as a way of saying thank you to a developer for an experience he enjoyed this is what I feel like I’m doing here. I don’t need to buy or replay The Last of Us Part 1 but I want to so I can show my gratitude to Naughty Dog for giving me another excuse to play through this amazing game. And hopefully platinum this version too 🏆
Would I prefer it if was cheaper? Yes of course! But you could say that about everything (especially these days) but I don’t see it as a cash grab personally. Nobody needs to buy this or indeed any game ever! If you want it, buy it. If you don’t, then don’t. If you’re not sure it’s worth it, wait for the sale or don’t buy it at all and play the Remaster for free via PS Plus. Or don’t play it at all and play something else 🤷♂️
People who complain about paying a full price to do the same thing were silent on Demon's Souls and Shadow of the Collosus. Exact same games at full price. Don't want to pay? Don't. Wait. Get it for cheaper. Personally TLOU was and IS one of my favorite games of all time.
I'm looking forward to playing this so much, I downloaded The Last of Us Remastered just in case I get the urge to play Factions.
I don’t really like digging into the finances of people I don’t personally know… but Mike sells weed. The tarantula? His own personal invention and the Tahoe Stoners are smoking and toking those tarantula legs like there’s no tomorrow. It’s a fact.
(also Mike streams a LOT and gets those donos and subs)
Xbox main. I bought Last of Us Part 1 at full price. I played the OG remaster about a year ago, before playing part 2. Then sold my ps5 after the fact. Just bought a ps5 again for exclusives (Kotor, final fantasy, spiderman etc) and of course for the last of us. Don't regret it. 10/10. Still have ps5 for exclusives.
Dodging wouldn't have added much. A few extra animations they already had with part 2. Prone, they would've needed a level redesign. There was nothing in the OG that required prone. The dodge would've been an easy fix in comparison. Part 1 made melee a last ditched effort instead of a usable solution that part 2 allowed.
Forget about Last of Us, talk about Tinykin. That's a 5/5 game.
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I’m jealous of anyone who gets to play this version of TLOU for the first time! As for myself, I will definitely pick this up at some point, but def not for $70.
I’m playing ME Legendary Edition for the first time and I’m glad I waited on that series!
I already played LoU 4 times (twice on PS3, twice on PS4) so I wouldn’t get this anyway, but pricing this at $70 when it’s missing multiplayer is pretty disappointing. I think $50 would have been a perfect price point.
Of course they'll be a multyplayer, they'll put it out in 10 years after 2's multyplayer drops :p
If the game were cheap, I'd be all over this. But with the price of games going up and sales being less common due to supply issues. I can't justify the price. Here's hoping they include it with PS Plus Extra next year.
This may have been said but the team that made part 1 initially wanted and started to remake uncharted 1 to look like 4, but pivoted during development to the last of us
I am a massive LOU fan, PS3, PS4 day 1 purchase. I am not spending £70. PS4 version, had all the dlc including multiplayer maps and even that wasn't full price.
Anyone call them “Muffin Tops”?
I haven't played last of us since ps3 and never played left behind.
Now definitely feels like the time. It's a pre-order for me.
To be fair, Joel is almost 50 in last of us part 1. Going prone and crawling around realistically wouldn't happen. Ask Nick.
33:08 wait you cant shoot through that window?
A new game that “looks” prettier, has a few different modes doesn’t change the fact that this isn’t a new game, it’s not even the first time they’ve remastered/ remade it. I’m genuinely happy that people like it but it’s in no way justified by the price.
Ellie doesn’t play with fireflies in this new version. It was such a beautiful moment in the original, an almost-necessary character development moment for her. Why would they omit this impromptu moment before Bills Town?
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I prefer to think of it not as a"remake" or "remaster", it's a "re-application". They literally just repainted the game with all of last of us part 2's assets. But without the awesome multiplayer. This game is a ripoff at 70$/80€. If it was $50, I may have bought it, now I'm not going to buy it until it's used in the bargain bin for $20 or less.
I haven’t played through the game, and if this had the remastered Factions mode, I’d probably drop the cash on this-but since the PS4 version is free, I don’t think I’ll pay $70 for the visual upgrade. It really makes me appreciate Game Pass all the more since this is the type of first-party game that should be on PS Premium day one.
I have begun my play of this remake. I am pretty disappointed there was no added gameplay elements like going prone, dogs, dodge. I actually keep dying cause I keep trying to dodge like in Part 2.
That being said, this game has absolutely wowed me on a visual level. I think visually it's even better than Part 2. I think the 70 dollar price point is steep but I don't think they could have made it this crisp without that price point.
Near the end of the game when Joel rescues Ellie from the surgery part one decided to add blaring alarms over the music as Joel tries to escape the hospital. Completely ruined the moment and I really don’t know why it was added
The last of us is one of my favorite franchises, I play it pretty regularly & I’m hyped to jump back in tomorrow night, the hardcore fans will buy this but if you’re just a casual fan there’s No need to get it right away,they can wait for it to go on sale. I agree with blessing part 1 doesn’t need a prone option or even a dodge.
Really appreciated the input from Bless and Paris. Got me excited to replay soon.
The stalkers were added really late into development of the original game. That's why they were the way they were.
Really well-done gentleman. Comprehensive, thorough, genuine, and honest! As always!
The love flabs
Imagine paying $60 for a graphical improvement
Wow, the clip at 29:06 broke my brain. I thought, "Oh nice, they're going to do a comparison between the Remaster and the Remake of this walking scene" and then the clip ended. I guess THAT was the Remake scene? I genuinely thought it was the Remaster. I have seen clips that where things looks much better (especially puddles), but it still looks so, so similar to me.
Last time I played was in 2016. I will get it when discounted. Probably after the tv show. 30dollars seems fine for me.
This is a day 1 purchase for my me
The weirdest part is that TLOU REMASTER part of PS4 collection that comes with the PS5.
Also, why wouldn’t PlayStation give this to us free in the hugest tier of PS Plus?
I love this game and would replay it again, but not at $70, especially when I own the remaster (and possibly have it free as well!)
Ironically, i have played part 1 at least 3-4 times. Part 2, only once and while I love that game too, it’s just too heavy for me to repeat (at least for awhile)
I call some games that feel in between "Remake" & "Remaster" : Remakesters, if that makes sense. There is just so many variables going on that make the new game the way it is that are considered under both categories. It is hard to just say it is one or the other. I cannot wait to dive into this version of the game and experience Naughty Dogs rebuild of the world.
God I wish this remake would have released on PC day one. I can wait though.
Definitely should switch up how you play. Add some mods, turn up the difficulty.
Translation - watch Giantbomb quick look of this game. It's basically what this whole game is.
$60 for a gun and knife?? Why not complain more about these micro transactions
It makes sense that this is the best way to play for new players - but I would guess that most current PS5 owners are seasoned fans and have already played previous versions. I'll pick it up on a sale.
Hey man, I just got the ps5 and I refused to play any other game til I first get a crack at Last of Us remake (never played it before), so excited to play it
Is factions in this remaster?
I'm going to buy this game on steam to play it on the steam deck and for mods. I played TLOU at least 8 or 9 times all the way through most of those play through on the ps3 I really think the game should not have been $70 for what it is compared to other remakes. But being able to play it on a portable system I'd pay that to bad its not on a Sony handheld 😔
I beat the last of us remastered twice I did purchase the last of us remake ps5 day 1 and I am so happy with my purchase this is definitely the best way to play the game and the dualsense is absolutely amazing with this game hopefully they will remake part 2 but I must say i am definitely happy with the $70 purchase
The last of us a MASTERPIECE, one of the greatest games I've ever played. No one in their right mind would have thought this remake wouldn't get 10/10, 9/10. 5/5 type masterpiece level reviews, which it should. The problem with this game is them charging 70 dollars for a game that still runs super well. 50 dollars I think would be the perfect price point for a game like this and after everything sony has been doing recently, it just another tactic is squeezing ever since penny they can from their consumers while they make record profits. All of their marketing to for this game just seemed like them making excuses for them charging 70 dollars. I will 100% get this game once it drops to 30-40 because I'd love to play this game again, especially in a beautiful PS5 upgrade but let's call a spade a spade, Sony is getting the MO of becoming super anti-consumer and making super grimy decisions. Jim Ryan is doing everything opposite it seems of Shawn Layden and this can have long term effects for them imo.
The price of the console went up, maybe the price of games will be higher than $70 soon.