Word, 38 yr female and I wore baggy through high school, a little skinny in my 20s, and now I'm an in-between trouser fit simply because it's most flattering on my frame and I look classy and timeless.
I think for a lot of millennials, such as myself, the reason why we are reluctant to fully embrace wide leg/baggy styles today is because we already did decades ago. Late 90's and early 00's baggy jeans were the norm, due to the popularity of hip hop, and nu metal. It wasn't until the mid 00's were skinny/slimmer jeans took over. So for a lot of us, we just out grew that style.
Exactly, we did it already! i saw the kids nowadays and its like a flashback to 2003, they are wearing as we dress in the 90's and 2000's, the same hair, same glasses, etc.
Millennial here and I disagree. I was so happy when all the 90s stuff came back around, though that might partially be because I was a kid and didn't get to do much with it at the time.
I’m not sure about that tbh. I think many millennials have 9-5 jobs vs gen z who just started working or are still in uni. If you work a 9-5 it’s tough to pull up to the office with wide leg jeans. A lot of the gen z fashion is also influenced by things millennials used to wear when growing up. So it’s just a repetition for many. So it’s a tricky one. Gen z didn’t invent the current trend but is inspired by what millennials used to wear and millennials won’t spend money on clothes they can’t wear.
@@nen1811 yess! Totally agree. That’s why I don’t get how millennials could be influenced by gen z if a lot of the trends at the moment are influenced by what millennials wore when they grew up…
This comment is such a reality check for me genuinely hoping to be able to rock wider pants in a year or two that I'll have a stable job once I finish studying (24 now)
I agree, but as a gen x-er I want to add that it was as teens in the early-mid 90’s that we were wearing these too. influenced by hip hop but also the rave scene too, and then dabbled in baggy grunge also. Graduated in 94 and baggy pants were already quite popular in both scenes even in suburban Australia, widely available from mainstream youth focused fashion labels at the mall. The cultures and stars we were attempting to emulate were a little older than us and all gen x. Anecdotally, my mum recently found a photo of me from ‘93 doing my best to represent… my white very average middle class suburban Aussie girl life, she had a good laugh and said in retrospect she’s glad she had a teen girl/young adult during the ‘tomboy’ era, made life easier for her! She was the same age in UK in the 60’s and remembers many arguments with her parents about mini skirts and high-heeled knee length boots and lots of makeup etc, so she said she got to skip all that with me! To be clear, absolutely zero shaming about various looks, just the observations of a parent with a teen/young adult daughter. I eventually learned how to wear heels and makeup, sort of! My main point being it was already big with gen-x, the sub-cultures and their stars and influencers also gen-Xers. Though it obviously continued to grow in popularity as my millennial siblings came of age nearly a decade later.
Drew focusing on the age groups he is familiar with is understandable. Gen X here, most of us know fashion repeats over & over. My current and forever fav in addition to a wide leg pant is a kick flare. Levi’s has a vintage 517 that gives a good leg. Some of my timeless collectibles have been in my wardrobe since 2000. Being 48 and still plugged into fashion is the most liberating feeling. One word of advice is to be very careful about purging over the years. Some of the best fashions you’ll come across are in your young closets right now.
Millennials in the 90s and early 2000s been wearing baggy jeans. Then it went to skinny now back to baggy but more refined. Fashion recycles constantly. I'm a Millennial but I like the way Gen Z has styled baggy pants. But I wear wide, slim, to straight pants depending on the look I want. Don't limit yourself to what generation you fall under.
One thing to note about gen Z style I do feel like there is a contrast between online tiktok fashion and what gen z people wear in everyday life which is sometimes less out there like millenials
as millennial, 92 i wore in puberty a lot of hip hop style so wide pants became normal and natural. i did go for skinny as well to try it out. now i have big collections of different pants and choosing them as pieces where fit, color, texture and fit need to be in perfect harmony and historical reference is a bonus. that gives me a big range to express and i dont feel bound to one thing.
Gen Z takes a lot of references from millennials. I see a lot of 90’s rave , 90’s skaters, grunge aesthetic, 90’s/Y2K boy and girl bands, and 90’s/Y2K hip hop and R&B, and now even the 90’s/Y2K preppy look with the quiet luxury trend And it’s not just the pants. But the sunglasses, proportions, fits…heck even the way people edit photos and videos to have that retro VHS or film aesthetic. I see gen z’s style as taking millennial fashion and trying to recreate it with their own flavour
I'm a Gen Z, grew up wearing whatever my family threw at me since my family members are all tailors. Experiencing every kind of pants from skinny to baggy and wide fitting pants but I always ended up wearing the same old 501 since its my daily pair of pants. I think that straight leg pants are always stylish compare to others
I always enjoy your essays and this one was also a treat. I have no horse in the Gen Z vs Millennials race, but I have to admit I'm finding it refreshing that wider-legged pants are coming back into style. I liked what we used to call skater pants because they were so much more comfortable, and I appreciated the androgynous/unisex lines that I could play with in that era for more femme or masc leaning looks. Since Millennials were driving the locomotive on the train to the skinny jeans apocalypses, I have to say that I appreciate Gen Z pants style in this era and I'm glad to see some new things that I can adapt to my style. And I'd agree, the older viewers are more likely to stay until the end of the post-vid vid.
Born in 78 but not sure what gen I feel or dress like. Absolutely adore the shoulder pads era and early maximalistic 90's but wide pants have stolen my heart a little bit. So comfy, so great to style with vintage. Not subscribing to any social media aesthetic have always been classic and going for second hand, lately designer vintage but watching a lot of fashion content. Mostly from more artsy and "intelligentia" content in break down and analysis format like yours. The whole social - interpersonal - self expression aspect is extremely fascinating. Love how also you as part of the young generation can give such a deep insight to this. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Excellent breakdown as always, Drew! I’m a Millennial (born in ‘88) but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t inspired by Gen Z’s looser more relaxed silhouettes and fits. I rode the skinny jeans wave for a few years when it was popular, and slim-taper fits were my jam Millennials after. But as someone who never rocked JNCO back in the 90s, recently I’ve been coming around to looser cuts. How have I been missing out? 😂
It’s hard to choose without feeling bias, due to loose fitting/ baggy bottoms being so popular and refreshed into daily fashion I’m going to lean towards that look (though I’m millennial) I still remember the shift in the early 2000’s when I started wearing skinny’s and felt so misunderstood fashion wise because all of my peers were still rocking baggy fits with XXXL tee shirts 😂 I just feel like doing the opposite of what’s trendy will forever be my thing, being ahead of what’s in and then watching it blow up to the masses will always be satisfying.
I’m a millennial in my 30s. The baggy jeans style you see today is what we wore when I was in middle/high school, influenced by 2000s hip hop culture at the time. Then in the 2010s it went to skinny jeans. And then slim/straight leg which is what I currently wear. The gen z baggy fit doesn’t fit my current style/aesthetic, and also I’m a bigger guy and baggy clothes tend to make me look sloppy. But I do like a slightly oversized fit on a hoodie.
i’m a 97 zillennial as well and a good bootcut/flare jean had me in a CHOKEHOLD even through the skinny jeans epidemic😂 in the past couple years i’ve been into a more gen z wide, baggy jean but now i feel myself entering a yeehaw era (i’m from texas lol) and the bootcuts are calling to me again……..
As a millennial I think that we kind of have matured with our styles. When we wore skinny jeans back in the days, it was all about trend hopping and trying to fit in. So we wore skinny jeans because of social pressure and social media (mainly instagram). Similar what Gen Zs are experiencing now. At that moment, we never thought baggy pants will ever come back. However, it happened. And most of us realised how stupid it was to follow trends because we basically had to throw away majority of our waredrobe. So because of that, I believe that two ideas of styles developed. The first category, which probably 90 % of all millenials fall into is that they have become really basic, minimalistic and raditionel. Because of our experience with skinny jeans we shy away from any extreme sillouette. Which means no extremely baggy pants. Yes, our sillouettes are more relaxed, but never as extreme as we see Gen Zs. That is why Millenial style seems to be more sophisticated, basic, classic and some might say even boring. The second category are those 1-10 % that are still massively into fashion. Those however, do not care about trends at all and trying to implement their own ideas. This would be the celebrities that have a major influence on Gen Z fashion aswell. Because they do not shy away from wearing something new others wouldn't think about.
I love generational dressing and breaking it all down. Great video! I am the oldest of Gen X, which we never are the trend setters but the fun is we get to play in all the decades. I love what Gen Z is doing with pants. The looks are very creative! I love the wide leg pant mixed with all of the layering and even 90s preppy. It's like street wear grew up. As an older person, I watch your chanel regularly and love your takes on things. Keep up the great work!
‘95 millennial here, I love a straight leg, wide leg, flared led, tapered leg, and balloon leg. Balloon leg right now is 😙👌 Perfect mix of a tapered leg and wide leg
I’m handing it to Millennials because I’m in Gen Z but was born in 99’ so a bunch of Zoomers on Tik Tok decided to call me Unc because I wasn’t born in the 2000s.
Gen has z re-introduced the wide legged pant. I’m gen x and we did wear very wide legged jeans around 1990. H&M sold the most popular model called «Super loose». Later they introduced «Mega loose».
What I see as the generations come along, we tend to dabble in reaching back as well as melding styles from the present together to create new things. Also, I grew up in the 90s... I have an appreciation for seeing wide pants. But boy, wearing them takes so effort for me. I love a tapered pant. I can't even enjoy Levi's 501 because of how wide they look on my already big legs!
To have a proper comparison, we should look at how Millennials were styling pants/clothes when they were younger, close to the age of Gen Z today. For example, you were born in 1997, so you are almost 27 today. I was born in ‘84, so I am 40 today. I bet you won’t be styling your clothes in the same way as you do today when you’ll be 40, as I don’t style my clothes the same way as I was doing when I was 27. So, kinda hard to compare because we are looking at two very different age groups. And those who are very close to the generational border, as Millennials born between ‘94-‘96 are, sociologically speaking they are considered to be a hybrid, as I am close to Xers and so on.
millennial here. gen z typically does fashion IN GENERAL better than we did. BUT... they wouldn't be able to do what they do without the failures of us and the generations before us. as a millennial, i've made many style mistakes over the years and i have the edge of hindsight and experience. i have a lot of g3n z kids that come to me for style tips and general fashion insight. but i definitely takes a lof of style cues from them as well.
I’m gen X (born 1961) but influenced into loving extreme oversized low hanging pants (thrifted) paired with a tight fitting top and, to do justice to age and status (😜) an expensive looking bag
I am Gen X,so we grew up in the same spectrum of the progression of style as today’s youth. I saw more fitted pants in the eighties and that grew into the baggy styles of the 90’s which were heavily influenced by Hip Hop. I wore both. Fast forward to the 2010’s and coupled with the reality of growing up and maturation, so my style tends to reflect that. I’m more of a slim to straight leg pants wearing person. It’s not that I don’t find wider styles stylish but, they don’t fit in with my personal minimalism of timeless fashion pieces such as the Black Ivy style you touched on in a past vid.
What's kind of cool to me is that I'm coming at this from the angle of an alternative young millennial. I'm taking "bought Tripp pants from Hot Topic in the mid-2000s" type guy. I don't adhere to only buying men's pants (if they fit, I sit) but I favor slim cuts because they work with my proportions. I've noticed with specifically Tripp NYC -- they used to put out the huge, JNCO leg pants with all the hardware and extra bits, and then as I was reaching late teen/adulthood they were leaning hard into their rocker silhouette -- skinny, SKINNY jeans in various plaids (and, of course, black). But now some of the new styles I'm seeing are relaxed fit, or flared/boot cut. They still keep all the hardware and extra bits, and you can still buy "outdated" cuts if you could call them that, but they've been working their way through silhouettes to keep current.
Gen Z style is just old Millennial style. We already been there, done that and wore those items 25 years ago. We grew into our own personal style and what works best for our bodies. I think many of us are also over social media and the need for attention that comes with tik tok fashion.
We are above social media now. We have matured and realize none of the shit on the internet matters it’s all one fake world that doesn’t even exist in reality or day to day.
I really think the younger you are the more you experiment eland try to push boundaries in style and other topics. There comes a point where to know yourself better and you stick to what you like better. Also your body changing with age and pregnancy per example will affect what you choose no matter the trends. Every generation is having great impact on fashion and I love seeing how it evolves. Thank you for your videos and your perspective.
9:35 i agree so much as a genz! Some of y'all be sleeping on the grandpa and grandma drip! ive seen some old people have more style then my class combined hahahja
Can you say it louder for the generation in the back? I’m Gen X and have never dripped harder than after age 45. My budget is elevated, my closet is curated, a vintage collectors dream at this point! Thanks for the acknowledgment #auntiehere 😂
I like wide pants, but I'm not Gen Z or Millenial. What I notice most in Manhattan (in the past year) is women wearing leggings as pants, and I'm confused about why that is OK but skinny jeans are not, lol. I will be very happy to see that give way to wide pants. Anyway the Gen Z people in my life are definitely very creative with their fashion, especially the men. I kind of feel like for Millenials life has been really hard and it shows, and it makes me want to give them all a collective hug.
Leggings are just very comfortable and custom fit the body so I think ppl tend to wear them more because of that. I think more people would buy wide leg if it wasn't so hard to find pants that fit both your waist and hips and thighs. Also wide leg pants have a different vibe and aren't as sexy so many women may not choose those when going for a particular look
Born in 92- but get inspo from Gen Z for sure. Shout out to Drew for acknowledging JNCO lol I never did like skinnies but wore them because I wanted to look up to date with the current trends at the time but quickly discovered straight leg was the best fit for my body type. I do go for the wider straight leg pant - not all pants are made the same btw lol so one brands straight fit might more fitted than another’s. Gen Z does pants better as far as putting dope fits together but Millennials have the timeless look like our man Drew said. Once GenZ hits their 30s I highly doubt they’ll still want to wear such wide pants lol
I'm born in the 80s, grew up in the 90s through the 2000s.... And i thank the genZ to take us all out of skinny pants inferno!! Peace and positive vibes for 2024 🇨🇵👊
Gen X’er here. I embraced pants in 2023. I’m a dress girl to the point that hubby,friends and family comment when I wear pants. I think that for pants and general styling Millennial style is better curated, not as trend driven and has better fit/tailoring. I lived through super wide legged pants 2x and it’s fun for about a year then it gets dumb looking real quick. I just ordered 2 pairs of wider/straight legged jeans. I should’ve kept the more moderate ones I bought in the early 2000’s it’s literally the same silhouette. So I’m buying quality and will store them in 2026 for the resurgence in 2035. But in my heart…. I’m a skinny Jean girl 😂🧓🏾
Also Gen X here! I commented a little bit ago giving advice to not over purge when doing closet clean outs. Your comment makes me feel validated in giving that advice 😊
this video was so interesting!! I'm a gen zer (born in 1999) but I definitely resonate more with millennial fashion. I always always go for a straight leg dickie or levi pant because I honestly just think theyre more flattering on me. I dont care at all about things needing to be timeless, but I feel like a lot of gen z fashion is based on super fast trend cycles and passing fads. obviously the baggy pant has a lot of history that other people have commented on but I won't be surprised if it's considered passe in a few years by gen z. I guess it's not really about the baggy pant, it's more about originality and intentions (wearing clothes that resonate with you as an individual) that I feel like is kind of lacking with gen z at the moment
I’m 32 but I look about 25 so I can “get away” with wearing Gen Z styles, I’m so glad you pointed out most current style icons are millennials because I’m constantly saying that when people say millennials style sucks.
In terms of the looks you presented, the millennial styles looked 100x better than the gen z looks, in my personal preference. They look more polished and classic. But hey! I'm a millennial so that should be no surprise.
I land in the middle of this debate as well (Late Millennial here). Preferences and silhouettes are changing over time, so people also. I like how it is right now. There is more experimentation but with a deeper understanding how pants shapes should fit certain body types or proportions. I think Gen Z are willing to take risks and Millennials more or less found their personal style over the years.
i think something interesting to keep in mind is how fashion is cyclical. a lot of millennial fashion takes inspiration from genx fashion (think 80s nostalgia in the 2010s) and gen z fashion takes inspiration from late 90s-early 2000s.
GenZ call themselves clowns when they see their 5 years old pics wearing the same skinny jeans which are untouchable to them today. And they will call themselves clown after 5 years when they see themselves in these loose wide fits. LOL. simple reason - New gen is quick to follow trends. and they dont care about a classic piece.
As a person born in 2005 I've never worn skinny jeans in my life, skinniest being straight fit. This is simply because I found skinny jeans uncomfortable. I severely doubt the super skinny will go back in the limelight in the foreseeable future simply because of this. People like stuff that looks good but also is comfortable. Also theres been a recent bias to just wear what you like personally and a heavy emphasis of complimenting your body type with the silhouette of your clothes. This leans towards individualism rather than the trends you speak of.
Im on the edge of beeing a boomer (born in 81) And im taking inspiration from all periods, but since im grown up with 90s Rap and Hip hop my base is there and then i use bits and bobs from other eras. I have allways been in to baggy pants, but im not paring that with a baggy tee and a baggy hoodie (90s Nelly) So im taking some styling ques from Gen Zs since they are doing things in fashion i never would think about..
It’s kind of a big misconception that baggy/wide fitting pants are a new trendy thing. If you look at men’s tailoring from the 20th century, it’s overwhelmingly wide fitting pants
I basically align with your take, born 1999, for the trousers side of things I'd be definitely aligning with Gen Z, though I began wearing trousers with such widths or at least aspiring to as far as 3/4 years ago, so I guess that would basically align me back to your take, taking inspiration from the past rather than from what's new and treninding. Just like you, I also thrift quite a lot and just enjoy stuff with that "age" to it
As a fellow Gen Y Gen Z cusper I can totally see where you are coming from giving the advantage to Gen Z for pants. I was definitely deeply rooted in the tight/slim straight camp for far too long, and I am a lot happier with wider fits. What I will say is I am not down with the Y2K baggy look. Lots of break on a wider pant looks sloppy me. I instead prefer wider, structured pants with good drape. That looks so much more polished than either skinny jeans or big baggy jeans
with the wide pants like yes it’s the cyclical fashion trend thing but it’s also rebellion against the previous trend. that’s the thing i can always glean from what younger generations are wearing. easiest way to rebel against skinny jeans is to buy the widest pants you can. i think also minimalism was a massive trend across all facets of design while gen z was growing up and most millennials are still dressing in a way that i would term kind of minimalistic. like simple clean lines, neutrals, dainty jewelry, and more classic or timeless pieces of clothing. i think that style also is extremely inoffensive for the workplace and so millennials are going to gravitate towards that. i think what gen z is wearing is definitely inspiring though in a sense that they dress in a much more individualistic way. they’re not all dressing in a y2k type of fashion, with access to the internet they can dress for any trend or subculture they like.
i was born in 00 and for my whole school time (not uni) we dressed in slim/skinny jeans, even when sweatpants were fashionable for a bit we used to wear them slim - the post-covid shift towards wider fits is almost against everything we believed in lmao its hard to get to like the wide pants if your whole conscious life up until recently was dominated by skinny/slim
I also find it hard to style skinny jeans because of my body shape, i think that skinny/tapered silhouette can be styled and look clean but i prefer volume in my bottoms because of my legs
As an older millennial, I saw a lot in fashion. I paid attention from the very early 90s, forward. I got to recognizing “form fitting” looks in the 2000s, much of what you still see in Hollywood which makes sense because it’s a very “clean” look that appeals to the masses. And it actually took me a long time to break away from this, even as fashion forward I thought I was. Especially when 90s aesthetics came back which I was definitely a part of as a kid, I think maturity has sort of refined my re-cycled look (not recycled). I won’t say who does it best because it always comes back to how someone adapts their style to their body build. Even with an oversized look, you can’t just slap on anything oversized. It’s gotta sit on your body “right”. There’s still a form-fitting aspect to the oversized look imo. And plus, if a GenZer does enough research, they’ll have a leg up on us more experienced fashionistas. Side note: everything the Japanese wear, no matter slim or baggy/wide, always seem to look ultra cool on them! lol Maybe it’s just me. I just came back from there, and I never felt so fashionably inadequate!
I'm millennial and I definitely prefer millennial style- tapered or tailored pants with a more subdued style. My husband is Gen X and I dress in the style my husband would also appreciate me in or complements us as a couple. My husband loves classic rock, so his style is fitted shirts, jeans, leather jackets. I think I would be attracted to the style my husband has over the "trendier" styles.
My favourite thing to wear on my legs personally is a long skirt, because it has a high waist, which looks good on me cus I'm tall, and it's really long and wide, so it functions as a big strong fundament for my fit, aesthetically speaking, and it's hella comfortable. I do think different types of skirts and more niche types of pant silhouettes have a say in this discussion, because what you wear on your legs is such a fundamental part of your style, and you definitely should have a good overview of what there is, so you can tell what fits you the most. I would really like a video where you talk about the different aesthetic and cultural characteristics of a broad variety of different types of bottoms/pants. Anyways, that's just my thoughts, love the video it made me think about my style and have a great week. -A gen z'er
i'm 29 and i like the roomier but tapered pant . in my earlier 20s i wore wider leg pants to be alt / different to move out the slim era and that was a lil bit before gen z ran with it. then over time i just liked the timeless look of a taper with a modern edge of some looseness. now the kicker is inseam. still working on that and going back and forth on it. it REALLY depends on how my body is interacting with the pants in correlation to my footwear. these days, i just care if it suits me and the whole shape i'm making.
Too much of anything is too much. We had too skinny, now we have too wide. It’s disgusting having your pants drag on the sidewalk collecting all the bacteria from the streets.
It’s this pendulum effect between extremes. I’m seeing people already start talking about “bringing skinny jeans back” when straight pants have always been the the best option in my opinion
Millennial here, I’ve loved wide-leg/baggy pants for as long as I can remember! BUT I never knew where to find exactly what I was looking for, and eventually gave in to the skinny jean craze since that was all that was really being made and sold(to my knowledge anyways). As soon as Gen-Z resurrected baggy pants from the ether, and what with things being MUCH easier to find nowadays, you best believe I threw out every pair of skinny jeans I owned and will now and forever be wearing my wider cuts, lest they be ripped from my cold dead hands😤
I agree. Because when i think of millenial fashion now as a millenial, it feels stagnant...we had so many things but we were always in-betweeners. I think when i shop I tend to like things ive seen from GenZ more. Its like pulled together and yet cool and thought out...i think Genz have mastered the art of layering. Proportions that is 3D not 2D. Its very inspiring and FUN. I think we got lazy as millenials and then became parents and busy that we lost sight of doing more out of our comfort zone. Dont get me wrong, i love a fitted jean and a tee combo with a blazer (😅) but its very...uniform. When we were "ruling the net" i always looked to the millenials that played with style, ala the ones you mentioned as influences for GenZ, but my generation as a whole were too lazy to emulate and regulated it only to celebs. GenZ with more access are like..."you can, so can i" Theres also something to be said about dupes and GenZ not being obvious label focused, more quality and individual ...standing out (kind of) so millenials would shame each other for buying dupes and making it work...whereas GenZ are like not about that, if they can make it work and look good they will.
29yo here, I don’t like the ultra baggy pants or anything that’s ridiculous in my mind. However, the Uniqlo U Wide Chino and Wide Parachute Cargos are fucking incredible and perfect width for my taste and what I like to see. So stoked on them and has made me enjoy wearing pants again
As a MILLENNIAL I can CONFIRM that Gen Z is doing better with the pants bar none, there are millennials that do astronomical things with our styling of pants in fashion of course, not taking away from us.. However, Gen Z and this true fearlessness when in reference to fashion is top tier and inspiring! When I was in high school we had shutter shades and the birth of hypebeasts 😂 sooo I’ve seen it all the errors and trials it took to get here trust me. Millennials dressed more like the current energy now as children, when Gen Z was not even a thought or fresh out 🐣In conclusion Gen Z lowkey restored my faith in fashion and individuality and confidence is what we as community MUST be on! Here’s the torch..
Skinny isn't going to repeat especially for men. Because only men with slim straight leg look good on skinny jeans. You need a specific body type if you are planing to wear anything skinny. It's like compression t shirt for men/women it only look good on particular body type like ⌛🔽
@@rd3munna812Yuh-uh, that's what everybody said in the late 00s when skinnies started to become mainstream, I remember all the furor and complaining around skinnies, especially from men. Two years later, skinny jean apocalypse begins and men wear skinnies. We repeated the same talking points, by the way, buh-buh-buh-body shapes and all. You literally sound like I did 15 years ago. "This will never catch on, it only flatters a certain body ty--- oh. Okay. Everybody's wearing it now."
As a millennial myself I agree that Gen Z have a better appreciation for fashion than we did. Although at the same time, Gen Z just took styles from back in the day and made them theirs. So you guys are HEAVILY influenced by other generations. Yes, including millennials. So much of your style reminds me of my teenage years and how fashion was before the 2010’s started.
I believe that the young will always lead the way in fashion. Their youth and curiosity is a direct pathway to innovation. With the invention of social media it has become easier to refer to styles of yesteryear and find ways to make them new again. The current style to me is just a twist on 90's and 2000's hiphop culture (not the music videos but what people actually wore). It's what I saw people wearing in school, only slightly different, better. I literally used to wear wide leg jeans with oversized tops and durango boots. I also loved long oversized overcoats. My style then was very similar to what many young people are wearing now, 20 years later. The real difference is the mixing of so many influences because we're all so much more connected because of the internet. The different cultures are not as separated as they used to be and that's giving gen z a lot to choose from to mix and match. In the future the next generation will innovate again and older people will draw inspiration from them just as they are now. It'll be interesting to see what they invent and reinvent.
#PVV hey drew, i hope you’re having an awesome day!! this video was fun and you made such solid points about each generation that i really agree with. the video you included with the millennials and gen zers ranking each other’s styles actually made me realize the generation style gap- not to say either style is bad but just that they’re really different! for millennials, they utilized a lot of neutrals and their silhouettes are a bit more conforming while gen z curated outfits beyond the typical fashion box. despite millennials having a somewhat more particular style, i do look up to those from that generation in regards to fashion. me personally, i think gen z has a bit more fun with their style choices :D also i had a feeling you’d say gen z is better at styling pants because i thought about how important it is to express oneself and this is something i feel i hear you say quite often. one thing i’d like to add is wide leg pants are totally on top (they’re my favorite) but it’s more than possible to make an amazing outfit with straight leg pants and i would love to see some more! okay final thought, i agree that probably more millennials actually get to the end of videos since gen z consumes a great deal of short content so their attention span may not be apt for watching a video in its entirety. (i’m a gen zer but i watch till the end because i love your videos and i’m always intrigued by what you have to share with us!!)
Baggys cool but there’s a line to be drawn. Fellas if you’re wearing size 42 jeans and your waist is a 30 please reconsider. Especially if they cover your whole shoe
most fashion trends are started by the youth and are just tweaked from generation to generation. You can find photos from decades back who dress just like people in this video. 🧿
I’m Gen X, I like wearing slim jeans. But sometimes a slim boot cut. I dislike skinny jeans. I don’t like jeans that are loose around the rise. I dislike jeans that are to long or have holes or rips. I’m ok if jeans have repairs for rips. I do prefer a darker pair of jeans but also enjoy a faded pair of jeans. Not into the Japanese workers baggy jeans.
I'm a millennial and give it to Gen Z, they pulled off the baggy jean fits better, maybe more options, But growing up all my stuff were older cousin clothing. Drew takes the hip hop sample approach to fashion,
When Millennials were leading fashion we had Menswear and Swag fits and Health Goth… GenZ has baggy pants, gorp and bloke cores and anime dressing people. Way more creative and outgoing
Millennials introduced the world to baggy styles in 80-90s. We would get hassled for wearing baggy pants in the 90’s. We did it when it wasn’t acceptable by mainstream. It’s just coming back.
I have a feeling that the fashion for wide jeans does not take into account people who are not tall in terms of conventionality. Most likely, such people will face condemnation for both skinny jeans and “wrong” square proportions in buggy pants. Not to mention people with a slightly above average weight.
millennials hands down; i don’t believe in a man wearing baggy pants, i don’t like them too tight either, the more slim cut is perfect , correct measurements is key too
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I’m a millennial and as a kid baggy was part of hip hop. Fast forward I like baggy and straight leg. So in between. I’m 39
Im 41 and I agree with this
I’m 34 and I agree. We always wore baggy pants in the 90’s and the 2000’s To me gen z is taking from all these older styles and making it their own.
Word, 38 yr female and I wore baggy through high school, a little skinny in my 20s, and now I'm an in-between trouser fit simply because it's most flattering on my frame and I look classy and timeless.
41 here, If you couldn't fit two people in your pants they weren't baggy enough
We made fun of skinny jeans
I think for a lot of millennials, such as myself, the reason why we are reluctant to fully embrace wide leg/baggy styles today is because we already did decades ago. Late 90's and early 00's baggy jeans were the norm, due to the popularity of hip hop, and nu metal. It wasn't until the mid 00's were skinny/slimmer jeans took over. So for a lot of us, we just out grew that style.
Exactly, we did it already! i saw the kids nowadays and its like a flashback to 2003, they are wearing as we dress in the 90's and 2000's, the same hair, same glasses, etc.
and skinny jeans started in the 70s and 80s
@@gsj210yeah but I'm Milenial and I love my skinny jeans ☺️
Millennial here and I disagree. I was so happy when all the 90s stuff came back around, though that might partially be because I was a kid and didn't get to do much with it at the time.
I’m not sure about that tbh. I think many millennials have 9-5 jobs vs gen z who just started working or are still in uni. If you work a 9-5 it’s tough to pull up to the office with wide leg jeans. A lot of the gen z fashion is also influenced by things millennials used to wear when growing up. So it’s just a repetition for many. So it’s a tricky one. Gen z didn’t invent the current trend but is inspired by what millennials used to wear and millennials won’t spend money on clothes they can’t wear.
They be rocking the Levi’s poster fits lol
all fashion is recycled since it's just a cyclical thing
@@nen1811 yess! Totally agree. That’s why I don’t get how millennials could be influenced by gen z if a lot of the trends at the moment are influenced by what millennials wore when they grew up…
@@aligotbeatsit gets reinterpreted and there is always innovation. I think it’s only natural for there to be mutual influence
This comment is such a reality check for me genuinely hoping to be able to rock wider pants in a year or two that I'll have a stable job once I finish studying (24 now)
Gen Z pants styles are just Millennial Black/Hip Hop style. We were doing that’s back in the 90s and early 2000s. It’s literally Black Y2K style pants
Exactly
The perfect comment does exist.
Literally.
I definitely agree, but Gen Z looks odd in them, it’s as if the pants are wearing them. Another way to say it is ‘trying to hard’.
I agree, but as a gen x-er I want to add that it was as teens in the early-mid 90’s that we were wearing these too. influenced by hip hop but also the rave scene too, and then dabbled in baggy grunge also. Graduated in 94 and baggy pants were already quite popular in both scenes even in suburban Australia, widely available from mainstream youth focused fashion labels at the mall. The cultures and stars we were attempting to emulate were a little older than us and all gen x.
Anecdotally, my mum recently found a photo of me from ‘93 doing my best to represent… my white very average middle class suburban Aussie girl life, she had a good laugh and said in retrospect she’s glad she had a teen girl/young adult during the ‘tomboy’ era, made life easier for her! She was the same age in UK in the 60’s and remembers many arguments with her parents about mini skirts and high-heeled knee length boots and lots of makeup etc, so she said she got to skip all that with me! To be clear, absolutely zero shaming about various looks, just the observations of a parent with a teen/young adult daughter. I eventually learned how to wear heels and makeup, sort of! My main point being it was already big with gen-x, the sub-cultures and their stars and influencers also gen-Xers. Though it obviously continued to grow in popularity as my millennial siblings came of age nearly a decade later.
Drew focusing on the age groups he is familiar with is understandable. Gen X here, most of us know fashion repeats over & over. My current and forever fav in addition to a wide leg pant is a kick flare. Levi’s has a vintage 517 that gives a good leg. Some of my timeless collectibles have been in my wardrobe since 2000. Being 48 and still plugged into fashion is the most liberating feeling. One word of advice is to be very careful about purging over the years. Some of the best fashions you’ll come across are in your young closets right now.
Millennials in the 90s and early 2000s been wearing baggy jeans. Then it went to skinny now back to baggy but more refined. Fashion recycles constantly. I'm a Millennial but I like the way Gen Z has styled baggy pants. But I wear wide, slim, to straight pants depending on the look I want. Don't limit yourself to what generation you fall under.
One thing to note about gen Z style I do feel like there is a contrast between online tiktok fashion and what gen z people wear in everyday life which is sometimes less out there like millenials
true! literally metalife
as millennial, 92 i wore in puberty a lot of hip hop style so wide pants became normal and natural. i did go for skinny as well to try it out. now i have big collections of different pants and choosing them as pieces where fit, color, texture and fit need to be in perfect harmony and historical reference is a bonus. that gives me a big range to express and i dont feel bound to one thing.
Yeah same bro I went through that skinny phase. So all types of fits!!
Gen Z takes a lot of references from millennials. I see a lot of 90’s rave , 90’s skaters, grunge aesthetic, 90’s/Y2K boy and girl bands, and 90’s/Y2K hip hop and R&B, and now even the 90’s/Y2K preppy look with the quiet luxury trend
And it’s not just the pants. But the sunglasses, proportions, fits…heck even the way people edit photos and videos to have that retro VHS or film aesthetic.
I see gen z’s style as taking millennial fashion and trying to recreate it with their own flavour
No. They are just being completely unoriginal and just blatantly copying everything we already did
I'm a Gen Z, grew up wearing whatever my family threw at me since my family members are all tailors. Experiencing every kind of pants from skinny to baggy and wide fitting pants but I always ended up wearing the same old 501 since its my daily pair of pants. I think that straight leg pants are always stylish compare to others
I love the fact that Drew made his voice tone up a little bit in this video😂
There’s so many content creators that have pitched up over time lmaoo
Tried to give a bit more energy 😂
I always enjoy your essays and this one was also a treat. I have no horse in the Gen Z vs Millennials race, but I have to admit I'm finding it refreshing that wider-legged pants are coming back into style. I liked what we used to call skater pants because they were so much more comfortable, and I appreciated the androgynous/unisex lines that I could play with in that era for more femme or masc leaning looks. Since Millennials were driving the locomotive on the train to the skinny jeans apocalypses, I have to say that I appreciate Gen Z pants style in this era and I'm glad to see some new things that I can adapt to my style.
And I'd agree, the older viewers are more likely to stay until the end of the post-vid vid.
Born in 78 but not sure what gen I feel or dress like. Absolutely adore the shoulder pads era and early maximalistic 90's but wide pants have stolen my heart a little bit. So comfy, so great to style with vintage. Not subscribing to any social media aesthetic have always been classic and going for second hand, lately designer vintage but watching a lot of fashion content. Mostly from more artsy and "intelligentia" content in break down and analysis format like yours. The whole social - interpersonal - self expression aspect is extremely fascinating. Love how also you as part of the young generation can give such a deep insight to this. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Excellent breakdown as always, Drew! I’m a Millennial (born in ‘88) but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t inspired by Gen Z’s looser more relaxed silhouettes and fits.
I rode the skinny jeans wave for a few years when it was popular, and slim-taper fits were my jam Millennials after. But as someone who never rocked JNCO back in the 90s, recently I’ve been coming around to looser cuts. How have I been missing out? 😂
JNCOs were the wave in the late 90s early 00s! thanks to the punk rock/alternative scene. I remember it well and I was born a year after you.
It’s hard to choose without feeling bias, due to loose fitting/ baggy bottoms being so popular and refreshed into daily fashion I’m going to lean towards that look (though I’m millennial) I still remember the shift in the early 2000’s when I started wearing skinny’s and felt so misunderstood fashion wise because all of my peers were still rocking baggy fits with XXXL tee shirts 😂 I just feel like doing the opposite of what’s trendy will forever be my thing, being ahead of what’s in and then watching it blow up to the masses will always be satisfying.
You need to put Subway Surfers on the bottom half of the video in order for GenZ to make it to the PVV 🤣
Mf he is gen z
My brother in christ, you're talking about gen alpha
i think thats gen alpha 😂
as a millennial with adhd I love SS at the bottom
I’m a millennial in my 30s. The baggy jeans style you see today is what we wore when I was in middle/high school, influenced by 2000s hip hop culture at the time. Then in the 2010s it went to skinny jeans. And then slim/straight leg which is what I currently wear. The gen z baggy fit doesn’t fit my current style/aesthetic, and also I’m a bigger guy and baggy clothes tend to make me look sloppy. But I do like a slightly oversized fit on a hoodie.
i’m a 97 zillennial as well and a good bootcut/flare jean had me in a CHOKEHOLD even through the skinny jeans epidemic😂 in the past couple years i’ve been into a more gen z wide, baggy jean but now i feel myself entering a yeehaw era (i’m from texas lol) and the bootcuts are calling to me again……..
As a millennial I think that we kind of have matured with our styles. When we wore skinny jeans back in the days, it was all about trend hopping and trying to fit in. So we wore skinny jeans because of social pressure and social media (mainly instagram). Similar what Gen Zs are experiencing now. At that moment, we never thought baggy pants will ever come back. However, it happened. And most of us realised how stupid it was to follow trends because we basically had to throw away majority of our waredrobe.
So because of that, I believe that two ideas of styles developed. The first category, which probably 90 % of all millenials fall into is that they have become really basic, minimalistic and raditionel. Because of our experience with skinny jeans we shy away from any extreme sillouette. Which means no extremely baggy pants. Yes, our sillouettes are more relaxed, but never as extreme as we see Gen Zs. That is why Millenial style seems to be more sophisticated, basic, classic and some might say even boring.
The second category are those 1-10 % that are still massively into fashion. Those however, do not care about trends at all and trying to implement their own ideas. This would be the celebrities that have a major influence on Gen Z fashion aswell. Because they do not shy away from wearing something new others wouldn't think about.
I love generational dressing and breaking it all down. Great video! I am the oldest of Gen X, which we never are the trend setters but the fun is we get to play in all the decades. I love what Gen Z is doing with pants. The looks are very creative! I love the wide leg pant mixed with all of the layering and even 90s preppy. It's like street wear grew up. As an older person, I watch your chanel regularly and love your takes on things. Keep up the great work!
‘95 millennial here, I love a straight leg, wide leg, flared led, tapered leg, and balloon leg. Balloon leg right now is 😙👌
Perfect mix of a tapered leg and wide leg
I’m handing it to Millennials because I’m in Gen Z but was born in 99’ so a bunch of Zoomers on Tik Tok decided to call me Unc because I wasn’t born in the 2000s.
Gen has z re-introduced the wide legged pant. I’m gen x and we did wear very wide legged jeans around 1990. H&M sold the most popular model called «Super loose». Later they introduced «Mega loose».
What I see as the generations come along, we tend to dabble in reaching back as well as melding styles from the present together to create new things.
Also, I grew up in the 90s... I have an appreciation for seeing wide pants. But boy, wearing them takes so effort for me. I love a tapered pant. I can't even enjoy Levi's 501 because of how wide they look on my already big legs!
I don't have tiktok, the only tiktoks I watch are the ones regurgitated by youtube commentators. I also don't wear pants.
As a millennial, I second the post vid-video take lol
To have a proper comparison, we should look at how Millennials were styling pants/clothes when they were younger,
close to the age of Gen Z today.
For example, you were born in 1997, so you are almost 27 today. I was born in ‘84, so I am 40 today. I bet you won’t be styling your clothes in the same way as you do today when you’ll be 40, as I don’t style my clothes the same way as I was doing when I was 27. So, kinda hard to compare because we are looking at two very different age groups.
And those who are very close to the generational border, as Millennials born between ‘94-‘96 are, sociologically speaking they are considered to be a hybrid, as I am close to Xers and so on.
Team Millennial!! 1985!!😂🤟🏿
As a gen z, I love millennials fits. They dress as themself but not trying to push everything to the limit.
millennial here.
gen z typically does fashion IN GENERAL better than we did. BUT... they wouldn't be able to do what they do without the failures of us and the generations before us.
as a millennial, i've made many style mistakes over the years and i have the edge of hindsight and experience.
i have a lot of g3n z kids that come to me for style tips and general fashion insight. but i definitely takes a lof of style cues from them as well.
Great timing on the mention of 3sixteen. Just in time for the throwing fits collab
They got the baggy wide look from us. It’s all just revolving now. Kinda dope to see it become cool and retro
I’m gen X (born 1961) but influenced into loving extreme oversized low hanging pants (thrifted) paired with a tight fitting top and, to do justice to age and status (😜) an expensive looking bag
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To be honest this is the correct answer because bell bottoms
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I am Gen X,so we grew up in the same spectrum of the progression of style as today’s youth. I saw more fitted pants in the eighties and that grew into the baggy styles of the 90’s which were heavily influenced by Hip Hop. I wore both. Fast forward to the 2010’s and coupled with the reality of growing up and maturation, so my style tends to reflect that. I’m more of a slim to straight leg pants wearing person. It’s not that I don’t find wider styles stylish but, they don’t fit in with my personal minimalism of timeless fashion pieces such as the Black Ivy style you touched on in a past vid.
What's kind of cool to me is that I'm coming at this from the angle of an alternative young millennial. I'm taking "bought Tripp pants from Hot Topic in the mid-2000s" type guy. I don't adhere to only buying men's pants (if they fit, I sit) but I favor slim cuts because they work with my proportions. I've noticed with specifically Tripp NYC -- they used to put out the huge, JNCO leg pants with all the hardware and extra bits, and then as I was reaching late teen/adulthood they were leaning hard into their rocker silhouette -- skinny, SKINNY jeans in various plaids (and, of course, black). But now some of the new styles I'm seeing are relaxed fit, or flared/boot cut. They still keep all the hardware and extra bits, and you can still buy "outdated" cuts if you could call them that, but they've been working their way through silhouettes to keep current.
Og hot topic was a vibe I like the original extra baggy look. I used to just get my music shirts from there and other things.
My D*ck has never been happier. My balls have never been happier. Skinny jeans was the worst pant tread a man coulda faced
Gen Z style is just old Millennial style. We already been there, done that and wore those items 25 years ago. We grew into our own personal style and what works best for our bodies. I think many of us are also over social media and the need for attention that comes with tik tok fashion.
We are above social media now. We have matured and realize none of the shit on the internet matters it’s all one fake world that doesn’t even exist in reality or day to day.
You got me with PANTALONES 😂
I don’t like supper baggy but I like loose because it’s more comfortable
I really think the younger you are the more you experiment eland try to push boundaries in style and other topics. There comes a point where to know yourself better and you stick to what you like better. Also your body changing with age and pregnancy per example will affect what you choose no matter the trends. Every generation is having great impact on fashion and I love seeing how it evolves. Thank you for your videos and your perspective.
I agreed to that tapered/straight i never owned a skinny jeans or distressed. 2010 was the skinny jeans era😂
9:35 i agree so much as a genz! Some of y'all be sleeping on the grandpa and grandma drip! ive seen some old people have more style then my class combined hahahja
Can you say it louder for the generation in the back? I’m Gen X and have never dripped harder than after age 45. My budget is elevated, my closet is curated, a vintage collectors dream at this point! Thanks for the acknowledgment #auntiehere 😂
Same here I'm 39 years old love baggy jeans
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I like wide pants, but I'm not Gen Z or Millenial. What I notice most in Manhattan (in the past year) is women wearing leggings as pants, and I'm confused about why that is OK but skinny jeans are not, lol. I will be very happy to see that give way to wide pants. Anyway the Gen Z people in my life are definitely very creative with their fashion, especially the men. I kind of feel like for Millenials life has been really hard and it shows, and it makes me want to give them all a collective hug.
Leggings are just very comfortable and custom fit the body so I think ppl tend to wear them more because of that. I think more people would buy wide leg if it wasn't so hard to find pants that fit both your waist and hips and thighs. Also wide leg pants have a different vibe and aren't as sexy so many women may not choose those when going for a particular look
Born in 92- but get inspo from Gen Z for sure. Shout out to Drew for acknowledging JNCO lol
I never did like skinnies but wore them because I wanted to look up to date with the current trends at the time but quickly discovered straight leg was the best fit for my body type. I do go for the wider straight leg pant - not all pants are made the same btw lol so one brands straight fit might more fitted than another’s. Gen Z does pants better as far as putting dope fits together but Millennials have the timeless look like our man Drew said. Once GenZ hits their 30s I highly doubt they’ll still want to wear such wide pants lol
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GenX wore all of these first hahaha!
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Baggy 👖 also worn by millennials when they were trending back in the day.
I’m gen x. I like wide leg pants. I’m so tired of skinny jeans.
I'm born in the 80s, grew up in the 90s through the 2000s.... And i thank the genZ to take us all out of skinny pants inferno!! Peace and positive vibes for 2024 🇨🇵👊
I wore baggy pants back when I was a kid and that’s what gen z is doing now lol when they grow up I’m sure they’ll be more snug & tapered
Gen X’er here. I embraced pants in 2023. I’m a dress girl to the point that hubby,friends and family comment when I wear pants. I think that for pants and general styling Millennial style is better curated, not as trend driven and has better fit/tailoring. I lived through super wide legged pants 2x and it’s fun for about a year then it gets dumb looking real quick. I just ordered 2 pairs of wider/straight legged jeans. I should’ve kept the more moderate ones I bought in the early 2000’s it’s literally the same silhouette. So I’m buying quality and will store them in 2026 for the resurgence in 2035. But in my heart…. I’m a skinny Jean girl 😂🧓🏾
Also Gen X here! I commented a little bit ago giving advice to not over purge when doing closet clean outs. Your comment makes me feel validated in giving that advice 😊
drew, ur content is always fire ! nuggets back to back baby !
this video was so interesting!! I'm a gen zer (born in 1999) but I definitely resonate more with millennial fashion. I always always go for a straight leg dickie or levi pant because I honestly just think theyre more flattering on me. I dont care at all about things needing to be timeless, but I feel like a lot of gen z fashion is based on super fast trend cycles and passing fads. obviously the baggy pant has a lot of history that other people have commented on but I won't be surprised if it's considered passe in a few years by gen z. I guess it's not really about the baggy pant, it's more about originality and intentions (wearing clothes that resonate with you as an individual) that I feel like is kind of lacking with gen z at the moment
Millennials for the win #95baby
I’m 32 but I look about 25 so I can “get away” with wearing Gen Z styles, I’m so glad you pointed out most current style icons are millennials because I’m constantly saying that when people say millennials style sucks.
In terms of the looks you presented, the millennial styles looked 100x better than the gen z looks, in my personal preference. They look more polished and classic. But hey! I'm a millennial so that should be no surprise.
Gen Z look like mall rats, lol.
The wide leg pants wave that has come in over the past few years is a direct reference of styles that were popular for millennials in the 90's.
I land in the middle of this debate as well (Late Millennial here). Preferences and silhouettes are changing over time, so people also. I like how it is right now. There is more experimentation but with a deeper understanding how pants shapes should fit certain body types or proportions. I think Gen Z are willing to take risks and Millennials more or less found their personal style over the years.
I m gen z and love the PVVs 🙌🙌
i think something interesting to keep in mind is how fashion is cyclical. a lot of millennial fashion takes inspiration from genx fashion (think 80s nostalgia in the 2010s) and gen z fashion takes inspiration from late 90s-early 2000s.
GenZ call themselves clowns when they see their 5 years old pics wearing the same skinny jeans which are untouchable to them today. And they will call themselves clown after 5 years when they see themselves in these loose wide fits. LOL. simple reason - New gen is quick to follow trends. and they dont care about a classic piece.
As a person born in 2005 I've never worn skinny jeans in my life, skinniest being straight fit. This is simply because I found skinny jeans uncomfortable. I severely doubt the super skinny will go back in the limelight in the foreseeable future simply because of this. People like stuff that looks good but also is comfortable. Also theres been a recent bias to just wear what you like personally and a heavy emphasis of complimenting your body type with the silhouette of your clothes. This leans towards individualism rather than the trends you speak of.
Im on the edge of beeing a boomer (born in 81) And im taking inspiration from all periods, but since im grown up with 90s Rap and Hip hop my base is there and then i use bits and bobs from other eras. I have allways been in to baggy pants, but im not paring that with a baggy tee and a baggy hoodie (90s Nelly) So im taking some styling ques from Gen Zs since they are doing things in fashion i never would think about..
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It’s kind of a big misconception that baggy/wide fitting pants are a new trendy thing. If you look at men’s tailoring from the 20th century, it’s overwhelmingly wide fitting pants
I basically align with your take, born 1999, for the trousers side of things I'd be definitely aligning with Gen Z, though I began wearing trousers with such widths or at least aspiring to as far as 3/4 years ago, so I guess that would basically align me back to your take, taking inspiration from the past rather than from what's new and treninding. Just like you, I also thrift quite a lot and just enjoy stuff with that "age" to it
as a “gen-zer”PPV is my favorite part
As a fellow Gen Y Gen Z cusper I can totally see where you are coming from giving the advantage to Gen Z for pants. I was definitely deeply rooted in the tight/slim straight camp for far too long, and I am a lot happier with wider fits. What I will say is I am not down with the Y2K baggy look. Lots of break on a wider pant looks sloppy me. I instead prefer wider, structured pants with good drape. That looks so much more polished than either skinny jeans or big baggy jeans
with the wide pants like yes it’s the cyclical fashion trend thing but it’s also rebellion against the previous trend. that’s the thing i can always glean from what younger generations are wearing. easiest way to rebel against skinny jeans is to buy the widest pants you can. i think also minimalism was a massive trend across all facets of design while gen z was growing up and most millennials are still dressing in a way that i would term kind of minimalistic. like simple clean lines, neutrals, dainty jewelry, and more classic or timeless pieces of clothing. i think that style also is extremely inoffensive for the workplace and so millennials are going to gravitate towards that. i think what gen z is wearing is definitely inspiring though in a sense that they dress in a much more individualistic way. they’re not all dressing in a y2k type of fashion, with access to the internet they can dress for any trend or subculture they like.
i was born in 00 and for my whole school time (not uni) we dressed in slim/skinny jeans, even when sweatpants were fashionable for a bit we used to wear them slim - the post-covid shift towards wider fits is almost against everything we believed in lmao
its hard to get to like the wide pants if your whole conscious life up until recently was dominated by skinny/slim
I also find it hard to style skinny jeans because of my body shape, i think that skinny/tapered silhouette can be styled and look clean but i prefer volume in my bottoms because of my legs
I find it hilarious a Japanese specialized clothing store, has a USMC HBT jacket. The Jacket US Marines wore while invading Japan.
As an older millennial, I saw a lot in fashion. I paid attention from the very early 90s, forward. I got to recognizing “form fitting” looks in the 2000s, much of what you still see in Hollywood which makes sense because it’s a very “clean” look that appeals to the masses. And it actually took me a long time to break away from this, even as fashion forward I thought I was. Especially when 90s aesthetics came back which I was definitely a part of as a kid, I think maturity has sort of refined my re-cycled look (not recycled). I won’t say who does it best because it always comes back to how someone adapts their style to their body build. Even with an oversized look, you can’t just slap on anything oversized. It’s gotta sit on your body “right”. There’s still a form-fitting aspect to the oversized look imo. And plus, if a GenZer does enough research, they’ll have a leg up on us more experienced fashionistas.
Side note: everything the Japanese wear, no matter slim or baggy/wide, always seem to look ultra cool on them! lol Maybe it’s just me. I just came back from there, and I never felt so fashionably inadequate!
I'm millennial and I definitely prefer millennial style- tapered or tailored pants with a more subdued style. My husband is Gen X and I dress in the style my husband would also appreciate me in or complements us as a couple. My husband loves classic rock, so his style is fitted shirts, jeans, leather jackets. I think I would be attracted to the style my husband has over the "trendier" styles.
My favourite thing to wear on my legs personally is a long skirt, because it has a high waist, which looks good on me cus I'm tall, and it's really long and wide, so it functions as a big strong fundament for my fit, aesthetically speaking, and it's hella comfortable. I do think different types of skirts and more niche types of pant silhouettes have a say in this discussion, because what you wear on your legs is such a fundamental part of your style, and you definitely should have a good overview of what there is, so you can tell what fits you the most. I would really like a video where you talk about the different aesthetic and cultural characteristics of a broad variety of different types of bottoms/pants. Anyways, that's just my thoughts, love the video it made me think about my style and have a great week. -A gen z'er
I'm 18 and I go straight/ slimmer fits all the way I hate the baggy look. Shoutout to the PVV as well btw I watch it every time
i might be a little biased, but it's always gonna be genz winning. muchhh more expressive + dramatic, so gen z has an advantage over fashion !
i'm 29 and i like the roomier but tapered pant . in my earlier 20s i wore wider leg pants to be alt / different to move out the slim era and that was a lil bit before gen z ran with it. then over time i just liked the timeless look of a taper with a modern edge of some looseness. now the kicker is inseam. still working on that and going back and forth on it. it REALLY depends on how my body is interacting with the pants in correlation to my footwear. these days, i just care if it suits me and the whole shape i'm making.
Too much of anything is too much. We had too skinny, now we have too wide. It’s disgusting having your pants drag on the sidewalk collecting all the bacteria from the streets.
It’s this pendulum effect between extremes. I’m seeing people already start talking about “bringing skinny jeans back” when straight pants have always been the the best option in my opinion
@@Woohoochanyep. Straight silhouettes like Levi’s 501 are a classic for a reason.
Millennial here, I’ve loved wide-leg/baggy pants for as long as I can remember! BUT I never knew where to find exactly what I was looking for, and eventually gave in to the skinny jean craze since that was all that was really being made and sold(to my knowledge anyways). As soon as Gen-Z resurrected baggy pants from the ether, and what with things being MUCH easier to find nowadays, you best believe I threw out every pair of skinny jeans I owned and will now and forever be wearing my wider cuts, lest they be ripped from my cold dead hands😤
I agree. Because when i think of millenial fashion now as a millenial, it feels stagnant...we had so many things but we were always in-betweeners. I think when i shop I tend to like things ive seen from GenZ more. Its like pulled together and yet cool and thought out...i think Genz have mastered the art of layering. Proportions that is 3D not 2D. Its very inspiring and FUN. I think we got lazy as millenials and then became parents and busy that we lost sight of doing more out of our comfort zone. Dont get me wrong, i love a fitted jean and a tee combo with a blazer (😅) but its very...uniform. When we were "ruling the net" i always looked to the millenials that played with style, ala the ones you mentioned as influences for GenZ, but my generation as a whole were too lazy to emulate and regulated it only to celebs. GenZ with more access are like..."you can, so can i" Theres also something to be said about dupes and GenZ not being obvious label focused, more quality and individual ...standing out (kind of) so millenials would shame each other for buying dupes and making it work...whereas GenZ are like not about that, if they can make it work and look good they will.
29yo here, I don’t like the ultra baggy pants or anything that’s ridiculous in my mind. However, the Uniqlo U Wide Chino and Wide Parachute Cargos are fucking incredible and perfect width for my taste and what I like to see. So stoked on them and has made me enjoy wearing pants again
As a MILLENNIAL I can CONFIRM that Gen Z is doing better with the pants bar none, there are millennials that do astronomical things with our styling of pants in fashion of course, not taking away from us.. However, Gen Z and this true fearlessness when in reference to fashion is top tier and inspiring! When I was in high school we had shutter shades and the birth of hypebeasts 😂 sooo I’ve seen it all the errors and trials it took to get here trust me. Millennials dressed more like the current energy now as children, when Gen Z was not even a thought or fresh out 🐣In conclusion Gen Z lowkey restored my faith in fashion and individuality and confidence is what we as community MUST be on! Here’s the torch..
Alpha Gen gonna kick those Baggys to go back to Skinnys... Eternal Circle of fashion.
You said it best. History repeats itself.
Skinny isn't going to repeat especially for men. Because only men with slim straight leg look good on skinny jeans. You need a specific body type if you are planing to wear anything skinny. It's like compression t shirt for men/women it only look good on particular body type like ⌛🔽
@@rd3munna812Yuh-uh, that's what everybody said in the late 00s when skinnies started to become mainstream, I remember all the furor and complaining around skinnies, especially from men. Two years later, skinny jean apocalypse begins and men wear skinnies. We repeated the same talking points, by the way, buh-buh-buh-body shapes and all. You literally sound like I did 15 years ago. "This will never catch on, it only flatters a certain body ty--- oh. Okay. Everybody's wearing it now."
As a millennial myself I agree that Gen Z have a better appreciation for fashion than we did. Although at the same time, Gen Z just took styles from back in the day and made them theirs. So you guys are HEAVILY influenced by other generations. Yes, including millennials. So much of your style reminds me of my teenage years and how fashion was before the 2010’s started.
I believe that the young will always lead the way in fashion. Their youth and curiosity is a direct pathway to innovation. With the invention of social media it has become easier to refer to styles of yesteryear and find ways to make them new again. The current style to me is just a twist on 90's and 2000's hiphop culture (not the music videos but what people actually wore). It's what I saw people wearing in school, only slightly different, better. I literally used to wear wide leg jeans with oversized tops and durango boots. I also loved long oversized overcoats. My style then was very similar to what many young people are wearing now, 20 years later.
The real difference is the mixing of so many influences because we're all so much more connected because of the internet. The different cultures are not as separated as they used to be and that's giving gen z a lot to choose from to mix and match. In the future the next generation will innovate again and older people will draw inspiration from them just as they are now. It'll be interesting to see what they invent and reinvent.
as a millenial... Gen Z. lmao
#PVV hey drew, i hope you’re having an awesome day!! this video was fun and you made such solid points about each generation that i really agree with. the video you included with the millennials and gen zers ranking each other’s styles actually made me realize the generation style gap- not to say either style is bad but just that they’re really different! for millennials, they utilized a lot of neutrals and their silhouettes are a bit more conforming while gen z curated outfits beyond the typical fashion box. despite millennials having a somewhat more particular style, i do look up to those from that generation in regards to fashion. me personally, i think gen z has a bit more fun with their style choices :D also i had a feeling you’d say gen z is better at styling pants because i thought about how important it is to express oneself and this is something i feel i hear you say quite often. one thing i’d like to add is wide leg pants are totally on top (they’re my favorite) but it’s more than possible to make an amazing outfit with straight leg pants and i would love to see some more! okay final thought, i agree that probably more millennials actually get to the end of videos since gen z consumes a great deal of short content so their attention span may not be apt for watching a video in its entirety. (i’m a gen zer but i watch till the end because i love your videos and i’m always intrigued by what you have to share with us!!)
Baggys cool but there’s a line to be drawn. Fellas if you’re wearing size 42 jeans and your waist is a 30 please reconsider. Especially if they cover your whole shoe
most fashion trends are started by the youth and are just tweaked from generation to generation. You can find photos from decades back who dress just like people in this video. 🧿
I’m Gen X, I like wearing slim jeans. But sometimes a slim boot cut. I dislike skinny jeans. I don’t like jeans that are loose around the rise. I dislike jeans that are to long or have holes or rips. I’m ok if jeans have repairs for rips. I do prefer a darker pair of jeans but also enjoy a faded pair of jeans. Not into the Japanese workers baggy jeans.
Skinny jeans are ridiculed so much that I'm just wearing tights all the time now, truly over for my wardrobe.
Millennial here✋🏿 grew up with the baggy jeans... can't go back... skinny/slim tapered >
I’m working on my 50s/ 60s… maybe even 30s/40s style out. And incorporate wider pants… maybe. Honestly just outta necessity, because of my thighs
I'm a millennial and give it to Gen Z, they pulled off the baggy jean fits better, maybe more options, But growing up all my stuff were older cousin clothing. Drew takes the hip hop sample approach to fashion,
When Millennials were leading fashion we had Menswear and Swag fits and Health Goth… GenZ has baggy pants, gorp and bloke cores and anime dressing people. Way more creative and outgoing
I’m a young millennial and yes, all my jeans are either straight leg or tapered! But I would wear wide leg if I found a flattering pair.
Millennials introduced the world to baggy styles in 80-90s. We would get hassled for wearing baggy pants in the 90’s. We did it when it wasn’t acceptable by mainstream. It’s just coming back.
I have a feeling that the fashion for wide jeans does not take into account people who are not tall in terms of conventionality. Most likely, such people will face condemnation for both skinny jeans and “wrong” square proportions in buggy pants. Not to mention people with a slightly above average weight.
Millenials love to show ankle, that’s my take
millennials hands down; i don’t believe in a man wearing baggy pants, i don’t like them too tight either, the more slim cut is perfect , correct measurements is key too