Word, 38 yr female and I wore baggy through high school, a little skinny in my 20s, and now I'm an in-between trouser fit simply because it's most flattering on my frame and I look classy and timeless.
I agree, but as a gen x-er I want to add that it was as teens in the early-mid 90’s that we were wearing these too. influenced by hip hop but also the rave scene too, and then dabbled in baggy grunge also. Graduated in 94 and baggy pants were already quite popular in both scenes even in suburban Australia, widely available from mainstream youth focused fashion labels at the mall. The cultures and stars we were attempting to emulate were a little older than us and all gen x. Anecdotally, my mum recently found a photo of me from ‘93 doing my best to represent… my white very average middle class suburban Aussie girl life, she had a good laugh and said in retrospect she’s glad she had a teen girl/young adult during the ‘tomboy’ era, made life easier for her! She was the same age in UK in the 60’s and remembers many arguments with her parents about mini skirts and high-heeled knee length boots and lots of makeup etc, so she said she got to skip all that with me! To be clear, absolutely zero shaming about various looks, just the observations of a parent with a teen/young adult daughter. I eventually learned how to wear heels and makeup, sort of! My main point being it was already big with gen-x, the sub-cultures and their stars and influencers also gen-Xers. Though it obviously continued to grow in popularity as my millennial siblings came of age nearly a decade later.
I think for a lot of millennials, such as myself, the reason why we are reluctant to fully embrace wide leg/baggy styles today is because we already did decades ago. Late 90's and early 00's baggy jeans were the norm, due to the popularity of hip hop, and nu metal. It wasn't until the mid 00's were skinny/slimmer jeans took over. So for a lot of us, we just out grew that style.
Exactly, we did it already! i saw the kids nowadays and its like a flashback to 2003, they are wearing as we dress in the 90's and 2000's, the same hair, same glasses, etc.
Millennial here and I disagree. I was so happy when all the 90s stuff came back around, though that might partially be because I was a kid and didn't get to do much with it at the time.
I’m not sure about that tbh. I think many millennials have 9-5 jobs vs gen z who just started working or are still in uni. If you work a 9-5 it’s tough to pull up to the office with wide leg jeans. A lot of the gen z fashion is also influenced by things millennials used to wear when growing up. So it’s just a repetition for many. So it’s a tricky one. Gen z didn’t invent the current trend but is inspired by what millennials used to wear and millennials won’t spend money on clothes they can’t wear.
@@nen1811 yess! Totally agree. That’s why I don’t get how millennials could be influenced by gen z if a lot of the trends at the moment are influenced by what millennials wore when they grew up…
This comment is such a reality check for me genuinely hoping to be able to rock wider pants in a year or two that I'll have a stable job once I finish studying (24 now)
Gen Z takes a lot of references from millennials. I see a lot of 90’s rave , 90’s skaters, grunge aesthetic, 90’s/Y2K boy and girl bands, and 90’s/Y2K hip hop and R&B, and now even the 90’s/Y2K preppy look with the quiet luxury trend And it’s not just the pants. But the sunglasses, proportions, fits…heck even the way people edit photos and videos to have that retro VHS or film aesthetic. I see gen z’s style as taking millennial fashion and trying to recreate it with their own flavour
Drew focusing on the age groups he is familiar with is understandable. Gen X here, most of us know fashion repeats over & over. My current and forever fav in addition to a wide leg pant is a kick flare. Levi’s has a vintage 517 that gives a good leg. Some of my timeless collectibles have been in my wardrobe since 2000. Being 48 and still plugged into fashion is the most liberating feeling. One word of advice is to be very careful about purging over the years. Some of the best fashions you’ll come across are in your young closets right now.
I'm a Gen Z, grew up wearing whatever my family threw at me since my family members are all tailors. Experiencing every kind of pants from skinny to baggy and wide fitting pants but I always ended up wearing the same old 501 since its my daily pair of pants. I think that straight leg pants are always stylish compare to others
as millennial, 92 i wore in puberty a lot of hip hop style so wide pants became normal and natural. i did go for skinny as well to try it out. now i have big collections of different pants and choosing them as pieces where fit, color, texture and fit need to be in perfect harmony and historical reference is a bonus. that gives me a big range to express and i dont feel bound to one thing.
One thing to note about gen Z style I do feel like there is a contrast between online tiktok fashion and what gen z people wear in everyday life which is sometimes less out there like millenials
Millennials in the 90s and early 2000s been wearing baggy jeans. Then it went to skinny now back to baggy but more refined. Fashion recycles constantly. I'm a Millennial but I like the way Gen Z has styled baggy pants. But I wear wide, slim, to straight pants depending on the look I want. Don't limit yourself to what generation you fall under.
I’m handing it to Millennials because I’m in Gen Z but was born in 99’ so a bunch of Zoomers on Tik Tok decided to call me Unc because I wasn’t born in the 2000s.
To have a proper comparison, we should look at how Millennials were styling pants/clothes when they were younger, close to the age of Gen Z today. For example, you were born in 1997, so you are almost 27 today. I was born in ‘84, so I am 40 today. I bet you won’t be styling your clothes in the same way as you do today when you’ll be 40, as I don’t style my clothes the same way as I was doing when I was 27. So, kinda hard to compare because we are looking at two very different age groups. And those who are very close to the generational border, as Millennials born between ‘94-‘96 are, sociologically speaking they are considered to be a hybrid, as I am close to Xers and so on.
In terms of the looks you presented, the millennial styles looked 100x better than the gen z looks, in my personal preference. They look more polished and classic. But hey! I'm a millennial so that should be no surprise.
GenZ call themselves clowns when they see their 5 years old pics wearing the same skinny jeans which are untouchable to them today. And they will call themselves clown after 5 years when they see themselves in these loose wide fits. LOL. simple reason - New gen is quick to follow trends. and they dont care about a classic piece.
As a person born in 2005 I've never worn skinny jeans in my life, skinniest being straight fit. This is simply because I found skinny jeans uncomfortable. I severely doubt the super skinny will go back in the limelight in the foreseeable future simply because of this. People like stuff that looks good but also is comfortable. Also theres been a recent bias to just wear what you like personally and a heavy emphasis of complimenting your body type with the silhouette of your clothes. This leans towards individualism rather than the trends you speak of.
I’m a millennial in my 30s. The baggy jeans style you see today is what we wore when I was in middle/high school, influenced by 2000s hip hop culture at the time. Then in the 2010s it went to skinny jeans. And then slim/straight leg which is what I currently wear. The gen z baggy fit doesn’t fit my current style/aesthetic, and also I’m a bigger guy and baggy clothes tend to make me look sloppy. But I do like a slightly oversized fit on a hoodie.
It’s hard to choose without feeling bias, due to loose fitting/ baggy bottoms being so popular and refreshed into daily fashion I’m going to lean towards that look (though I’m millennial) I still remember the shift in the early 2000’s when I started wearing skinny’s and felt so misunderstood fashion wise because all of my peers were still rocking baggy fits with XXXL tee shirts 😂 I just feel like doing the opposite of what’s trendy will forever be my thing, being ahead of what’s in and then watching it blow up to the masses will always be satisfying.
I always enjoy your essays and this one was also a treat. I have no horse in the Gen Z vs Millennials race, but I have to admit I'm finding it refreshing that wider-legged pants are coming back into style. I liked what we used to call skater pants because they were so much more comfortable, and I appreciated the androgynous/unisex lines that I could play with in that era for more femme or masc leaning looks. Since Millennials were driving the locomotive on the train to the skinny jeans apocalypses, I have to say that I appreciate Gen Z pants style in this era and I'm glad to see some new things that I can adapt to my style. And I'd agree, the older viewers are more likely to stay until the end of the post-vid vid.
Excellent breakdown as always, Drew! I’m a Millennial (born in ‘88) but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t inspired by Gen Z’s looser more relaxed silhouettes and fits. I rode the skinny jeans wave for a few years when it was popular, and slim-taper fits were my jam Millennials after. But as someone who never rocked JNCO back in the 90s, recently I’ve been coming around to looser cuts. How have I been missing out? 😂
i’m a 97 zillennial as well and a good bootcut/flare jean had me in a CHOKEHOLD even through the skinny jeans epidemic😂 in the past couple years i’ve been into a more gen z wide, baggy jean but now i feel myself entering a yeehaw era (i’m from texas lol) and the bootcuts are calling to me again……..
As a millennial I think that we kind of have matured with our styles. When we wore skinny jeans back in the days, it was all about trend hopping and trying to fit in. So we wore skinny jeans because of social pressure and social media (mainly instagram). Similar what Gen Zs are experiencing now. At that moment, we never thought baggy pants will ever come back. However, it happened. And most of us realised how stupid it was to follow trends because we basically had to throw away majority of our waredrobe. So because of that, I believe that two ideas of styles developed. The first category, which probably 90 % of all millenials fall into is that they have become really basic, minimalistic and raditionel. Because of our experience with skinny jeans we shy away from any extreme sillouette. Which means no extremely baggy pants. Yes, our sillouettes are more relaxed, but never as extreme as we see Gen Zs. That is why Millenial style seems to be more sophisticated, basic, classic and some might say even boring. The second category are those 1-10 % that are still massively into fashion. Those however, do not care about trends at all and trying to implement their own ideas. This would be the celebrities that have a major influence on Gen Z fashion aswell. Because they do not shy away from wearing something new others wouldn't think about.
Too much of anything is too much. We had too skinny, now we have too wide. It’s disgusting having your pants drag on the sidewalk collecting all the bacteria from the streets.
It’s this pendulum effect between extremes. I’m seeing people already start talking about “bringing skinny jeans back” when straight pants have always been the the best option in my opinion
6:02 Gen z are just literally wearing pants (and everything.. umm y2k) like millennials did 20 years ago. Nothing new here, it just looks more intentional now.
‘95 millennial here, I love a straight leg, wide leg, flared led, tapered leg, and balloon leg. Balloon leg right now is 😙👌 Perfect mix of a tapered leg and wide leg
I’m gen X (born 1961) but influenced into loving extreme oversized low hanging pants (thrifted) paired with a tight fitting top and, to do justice to age and status (😜) an expensive looking bag
I'm born in the 80s, grew up in the 90s through the 2000s.... And i thank the genZ to take us all out of skinny pants inferno!! Peace and positive vibes for 2024 🇨🇵👊
9:35 i agree so much as a genz! Some of y'all be sleeping on the grandpa and grandma drip! ive seen some old people have more style then my class combined hahahja
Can you say it louder for the generation in the back? I’m Gen X and have never dripped harder than after age 45. My budget is elevated, my closet is curated, a vintage collectors dream at this point! Thanks for the acknowledgment #auntiehere 😂
Gen Z style is just old Millennial style. We already been there, done that and wore those items 25 years ago. We grew into our own personal style and what works best for our bodies. I think many of us are also over social media and the need for attention that comes with tik tok fashion.
Lol you lost me in this one. Im a millennial and been wearing baggy pants till the late 2000s. Makes me kinda laugh that baggy pants are a big deal now again. Millenials are now getting older and more matured so their style is more subdued. You should have compared gen z style from this era to millennial style from the 2000s. Hands down millenials will win then. Just check any rap videos from the 2000s and you will know who which era was better and which generation did it better.
millennials hands down; i don’t believe in a man wearing baggy pants, i don’t like them too tight either, the more slim cut is perfect , correct measurements is key too
I like wide pants, but I'm not Gen Z or Millenial. What I notice most in Manhattan (in the past year) is women wearing leggings as pants, and I'm confused about why that is OK but skinny jeans are not, lol. I will be very happy to see that give way to wide pants. Anyway the Gen Z people in my life are definitely very creative with their fashion, especially the men. I kind of feel like for Millenials life has been really hard and it shows, and it makes me want to give them all a collective hug.
Leggings are just very comfortable and custom fit the body so I think ppl tend to wear them more because of that. I think more people would buy wide leg if it wasn't so hard to find pants that fit both your waist and hips and thighs. Also wide leg pants have a different vibe and aren't as sexy so many women may not choose those when going for a particular look
is it generational or is it just...age? in fifteen years, gen z will be the age of millenials and I can guarantee will be dressing a lot more how millenials dress now than wearing ott fits and baggy jeans. if we were having this conversation fifteen, twenty years ago during the hipster/indie sleeze/Y2K era, yeah millenials outfits were more interesting than those gen x was wearing at the same time (same thing goes for gen x in the 90s compared to the prior generation and so on) but your lifestyle changes and with it so does your needs from clothes.
most fashion trends are started by the youth and are just tweaked from generation to generation. You can find photos from decades back who dress just like people in this video. 🧿
As a millennial myself I agree that Gen Z have a better appreciation for fashion than we did. Although at the same time, Gen Z just took styles from back in the day and made them theirs. So you guys are HEAVILY influenced by other generations. Yes, including millennials. So much of your style reminds me of my teenage years and how fashion was before the 2010’s started.
Born in 78 but not sure what gen I feel or dress like. Absolutely adore the shoulder pads era and early maximalistic 90's but wide pants have stolen my heart a little bit. So comfy, so great to style with vintage. Not subscribing to any social media aesthetic have always been classic and going for second hand, lately designer vintage but watching a lot of fashion content. Mostly from more artsy and "intelligentia" content in break down and analysis format like yours. The whole social - interpersonal - self expression aspect is extremely fascinating. Love how also you as part of the young generation can give such a deep insight to this. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Gen has z re-introduced the wide legged pant. I’m gen x and we did wear very wide legged jeans around 1990. H&M sold the most popular model called «Super loose». Later they introduced «Mega loose».
What I see as the generations come along, we tend to dabble in reaching back as well as melding styles from the present together to create new things. Also, I grew up in the 90s... I have an appreciation for seeing wide pants. But boy, wearing them takes so effort for me. I love a tapered pant. I can't even enjoy Levi's 501 because of how wide they look on my already big legs!
this video was so interesting!! I'm a gen zer (born in 1999) but I definitely resonate more with millennial fashion. I always always go for a straight leg dickie or levi pant because I honestly just think theyre more flattering on me. I dont care at all about things needing to be timeless, but I feel like a lot of gen z fashion is based on super fast trend cycles and passing fads. obviously the baggy pant has a lot of history that other people have commented on but I won't be surprised if it's considered passe in a few years by gen z. I guess it's not really about the baggy pant, it's more about originality and intentions (wearing clothes that resonate with you as an individual) that I feel like is kind of lacking with gen z at the moment
millennial here. gen z typically does fashion IN GENERAL better than we did. BUT... they wouldn't be able to do what they do without the failures of us and the generations before us. as a millennial, i've made many style mistakes over the years and i have the edge of hindsight and experience. i have a lot of g3n z kids that come to me for style tips and general fashion insight. but i definitely takes a lof of style cues from them as well.
As a MILLENNIAL I can CONFIRM that Gen Z is doing better with the pants bar none, there are millennials that do astronomical things with our styling of pants in fashion of course, not taking away from us.. However, Gen Z and this true fearlessness when in reference to fashion is top tier and inspiring! When I was in high school we had shutter shades and the birth of hypebeasts 😂 sooo I’ve seen it all the errors and trials it took to get here trust me. Millennials dressed more like the current energy now as children, when Gen Z was not even a thought or fresh out 🐣In conclusion Gen Z lowkey restored my faith in fashion and individuality and confidence is what we as community MUST be on! Here’s the torch..
Born in 92- but get inspo from Gen Z for sure. Shout out to Drew for acknowledging JNCO lol I never did like skinnies but wore them because I wanted to look up to date with the current trends at the time but quickly discovered straight leg was the best fit for my body type. I do go for the wider straight leg pant - not all pants are made the same btw lol so one brands straight fit might more fitted than another’s. Gen Z does pants better as far as putting dope fits together but Millennials have the timeless look like our man Drew said. Once GenZ hits their 30s I highly doubt they’ll still want to wear such wide pants lol
What's kind of cool to me is that I'm coming at this from the angle of an alternative young millennial. I'm taking "bought Tripp pants from Hot Topic in the mid-2000s" type guy. I don't adhere to only buying men's pants (if they fit, I sit) but I favor slim cuts because they work with my proportions. I've noticed with specifically Tripp NYC -- they used to put out the huge, JNCO leg pants with all the hardware and extra bits, and then as I was reaching late teen/adulthood they were leaning hard into their rocker silhouette -- skinny, SKINNY jeans in various plaids (and, of course, black). But now some of the new styles I'm seeing are relaxed fit, or flared/boot cut. They still keep all the hardware and extra bits, and you can still buy "outdated" cuts if you could call them that, but they've been working their way through silhouettes to keep current.
I love generational dressing and breaking it all down. Great video! I am the oldest of Gen X, which we never are the trend setters but the fun is we get to play in all the decades. I love what Gen Z is doing with pants. The looks are very creative! I love the wide leg pant mixed with all of the layering and even 90s preppy. It's like street wear grew up. As an older person, I watch your chanel regularly and love your takes on things. Keep up the great work!
I’m 32 but I look about 25 so I can “get away” with wearing Gen Z styles, I’m so glad you pointed out most current style icons are millennials because I’m constantly saying that when people say millennials style sucks.
Im on the edge of beeing a boomer (born in 81) And im taking inspiration from all periods, but since im grown up with 90s Rap and Hip hop my base is there and then i use bits and bobs from other eras. I have allways been in to baggy pants, but im not paring that with a baggy tee and a baggy hoodie (90s Nelly) So im taking some styling ques from Gen Zs since they are doing things in fashion i never would think about..
Skinny isn't going to repeat especially for men. Because only men with slim straight leg look good on skinny jeans. You need a specific body type if you are planing to wear anything skinny. It's like compression t shirt for men/women it only look good on particular body type like ⌛🔽
@@rd3munna812Yuh-uh, that's what everybody said in the late 00s when skinnies started to become mainstream, I remember all the furor and complaining around skinnies, especially from men. Two years later, skinny jean apocalypse begins and men wear skinnies. We repeated the same talking points, by the way, buh-buh-buh-body shapes and all. You literally sound like I did 15 years ago. "This will never catch on, it only flatters a certain body ty--- oh. Okay. Everybody's wearing it now."
Gen X’er here. I embraced pants in 2023. I’m a dress girl to the point that hubby,friends and family comment when I wear pants. I think that for pants and general styling Millennial style is better curated, not as trend driven and has better fit/tailoring. I lived through super wide legged pants 2x and it’s fun for about a year then it gets dumb looking real quick. I just ordered 2 pairs of wider/straight legged jeans. I should’ve kept the more moderate ones I bought in the early 2000’s it’s literally the same silhouette. So I’m buying quality and will store them in 2026 for the resurgence in 2035. But in my heart…. I’m a skinny Jean girl 😂🧓🏾
Also Gen X here! I commented a little bit ago giving advice to not over purge when doing closet clean outs. Your comment makes me feel validated in giving that advice 😊
It’s kind of a big misconception that baggy/wide fitting pants are a new trendy thing. If you look at men’s tailoring from the 20th century, it’s overwhelmingly wide fitting pants
Millennials introduced the world to baggy styles in 80-90s. We would get hassled for wearing baggy pants in the 90’s. We did it when it wasn’t acceptable by mainstream. It’s just coming back.
I am Gen X,so we grew up in the same spectrum of the progression of style as today’s youth. I saw more fitted pants in the eighties and that grew into the baggy styles of the 90’s which were heavily influenced by Hip Hop. I wore both. Fast forward to the 2010’s and coupled with the reality of growing up and maturation, so my style tends to reflect that. I’m more of a slim to straight leg pants wearing person. It’s not that I don’t find wider styles stylish but, they don’t fit in with my personal minimalism of timeless fashion pieces such as the Black Ivy style you touched on in a past vid.
I really think the younger you are the more you experiment eland try to push boundaries in style and other topics. There comes a point where to know yourself better and you stick to what you like better. Also your body changing with age and pregnancy per example will affect what you choose no matter the trends. Every generation is having great impact on fashion and I love seeing how it evolves. Thank you for your videos and your perspective.
29yo here, I don’t like the ultra baggy pants or anything that’s ridiculous in my mind. However, the Uniqlo U Wide Chino and Wide Parachute Cargos are fucking incredible and perfect width for my taste and what I like to see. So stoked on them and has made me enjoy wearing pants again
As an older millennial, I saw a lot in fashion. I paid attention from the very early 90s, forward. I got to recognizing “form fitting” looks in the 2000s, much of what you still see in Hollywood which makes sense because it’s a very “clean” look that appeals to the masses. And it actually took me a long time to break away from this, even as fashion forward I thought I was. Especially when 90s aesthetics came back which I was definitely a part of as a kid, I think maturity has sort of refined my re-cycled look (not recycled). I won’t say who does it best because it always comes back to how someone adapts their style to their body build. Even with an oversized look, you can’t just slap on anything oversized. It’s gotta sit on your body “right”. There’s still a form-fitting aspect to the oversized look imo. And plus, if a GenZer does enough research, they’ll have a leg up on us more experienced fashionistas. Side note: everything the Japanese wear, no matter slim or baggy/wide, always seem to look ultra cool on them! lol Maybe it’s just me. I just came back from there, and I never felt so fashionably inadequate!
Ageing has a lot to do with what millennials wear, because with time we stop experimenting and found our own style while youngs has more roon to experiment
Millennial here, I’ve loved wide-leg/baggy pants for as long as I can remember! BUT I never knew where to find exactly what I was looking for, and eventually gave in to the skinny jean craze since that was all that was really being made and sold(to my knowledge anyways). As soon as Gen-Z resurrected baggy pants from the ether, and what with things being MUCH easier to find nowadays, you best believe I threw out every pair of skinny jeans I owned and will now and forever be wearing my wider cuts, lest they be ripped from my cold dead hands😤
I believe that the young will always lead the way in fashion. Their youth and curiosity is a direct pathway to innovation. With the invention of social media it has become easier to refer to styles of yesteryear and find ways to make them new again. The current style to me is just a twist on 90's and 2000's hiphop culture (not the music videos but what people actually wore). It's what I saw people wearing in school, only slightly different, better. I literally used to wear wide leg jeans with oversized tops and durango boots. I also loved long oversized overcoats. My style then was very similar to what many young people are wearing now, 20 years later. The real difference is the mixing of so many influences because we're all so much more connected because of the internet. The different cultures are not as separated as they used to be and that's giving gen z a lot to choose from to mix and match. In the future the next generation will innovate again and older people will draw inspiration from them just as they are now. It'll be interesting to see what they invent and reinvent.
Welp, I did the whole baggy look as a 90's and 2000's kid already. I don't need to retread that look. Been there done that. Gen Z rocking a look I did as a kid bc they never had the chance to do so is like us 90's kids wearing some of the 70's look in the 90's combined with our fashion senses. Just remember, that the 2010's look will be in vogue again by the same people crapping over it now. As some of us know who are not caught up in the moment or trend is that fashion and history repeats itself ALWAYS! You can COUNT ON IT! Personally, you can't top a tailored look bc that is always in style and when you look back in pictures no one will be like, "that look is so 2003 with trucker hats" and "Jesus is my home t-shirts". Trends for the most part are very dated and make you cringe when you look back on them. But at the time, no one could tell your ass shit bc you looked like everyone else.
I always wore baggy jeans (grew up in the 90s and 2000s) and it took me so long to accept skinny jeans now I’m getting back to baggy and it feels different. I do like feeling less restrictive but I feel like the silhouette makes me appear shorter. I’m 5”9 210 pounds. I think I’m getting used to it though.
(born in 2000) I always had thick thighs and a booty even as a kid so I always had to wear pants that were 2-3 waist sizes to big for my true waist size and I couldn't do skinny jeans ever which was the standard when I was in middle school and high school. It's always been straigh fit or boot cut for me by default. I like getting a big pants to fit my dumpy in and then going to my dry cleaner to get them tailored to be 1/2 inch above the ankle. I really like the feeling of roomy pants but I don't like the feeling of my pants dragging on the ground (like heel bite can be cool, but I associate it with my awful middle school fits when I didn't get my pants tailored) so I found a middle ground for myself. For me I feel like it's a lot harder to play with volume in my pants because of my comfort preferences and because of the fact that my pants would have to be really fucking wild to create that flowy visual around my thighs and butt. On top of that I like wearing baggier tops so straighter and slightly wide pants work better for me IMO. Also in PVV guy but also I watch everything on 1.75x speed at least to I can consume more content in it's completely quicker so...
I have a feeling that the fashion for wide jeans does not take into account people who are not tall in terms of conventionality. Most likely, such people will face condemnation for both skinny jeans and “wrong” square proportions in buggy pants. Not to mention people with a slightly above average weight.
I'm a millennial. Gen Z completely destroys us on pants. Back in the late 90s / early 2000s some of us had something but we just completely lost the plot after that.
Born in 87 so a millennial. The thing with Gen Z fashion you guys are largely wearing the stuff my generation wore when we were 12-16. In the early 2000s I wore baggie pants and Osiris shoes. If I wore baggy pants and Osiris shoes now I would feel like a little kid. I know that's not the case for you guys since you got into these baggie trends into adulthood. For me it's slim fit/tapered pants and neutral colors for life.
As a millennial born right in the middle of the generation I grew up wearing the baggy pants and oversized clothes that Gen Z is wearing now until I was about 20. Seeing all the oversized and baggy stuff is honestly just real cringy to me now and is far worse than skinny jeans (which also of course looks bad). It honestly just looks like Gen Z raided their dads closet and took either his childhood clothes from the 90s or they are trying to wear their big brothers clothes that are 2 sizes too big for them. The solution is just wear clothes that your body fit correctly and aren’t too tight or baggy and for pants that’s gonna be a slim or straight cut for most people and not a skinny or a baggy cut.
I am Gen X, I can't believe Millennials are getting 'old.' 🙂 I think Gen Z dressed ore individualistically than Gen X and Millennials, so good for them. As people get older, they generally tend to dress more predictably rather than trendy and/or experimentally. I think wide/loose pants look better on people with skinnier waistline. Come to think it of, every kind of pants look better on people with skinny waistline. 😆
As much as I enjoyed this and always really like your work, the line of questioning is intrinsically flawed. The youth are always at the forefront of whatever fashion trends the industry pushes, so to say that the wide styles that are currently in are Gen Z pants / created by Gen Z / reflect the generation, whereas skinnier fits reflect millennials, is simply untrue. Cause and effect have been confused here. When millennials wear the currently-trendy wide styles (or anything currently trendy), they're not doing it because Gen Z has influenced them to change from their 'millennial style'. They're doing it because it's trendy, and trends just happen to be pushed on and by the youth, who are hired by the fashion industry, who are in the spotlight as exciting upcoming artists, musicians, etc., and who have more leisure time and parents' money, less depth to their personality beyond the superficial yet, and fewer responsibilities as a product of their age. So if the people influencing millennials to wear wider cuts happen to be Gen Z members, it's a coincide and not the case that a generation has a claim on a certain style. The (false) implication is that your generation's style is whatever was cool when you were young, which is the case for many lazy people but not the case for the people from any generation who care about fashion. On the 2010s being a wonky era deemed unworthy of a comeback, I don't think that prediction is going to hold up for long. Britpop, prep, indie sleaze and Tumblr aesthetics are creeping back in (ballet flats and lower profile shoes and tons of Topshop looking things in stores are evidence).
I'm a millennial and give it to Gen Z, they pulled off the baggy jean fits better, maybe more options, But growing up all my stuff were older cousin clothing. Drew takes the hip hop sample approach to fashion,
Gen-Z style looks like they just grabbed a bunch of stuff at goodwill. (not that there's anything wrong with ,) i've got $20 in my pocket so, i'll have to go pop me some tags later.
pants style change throw the years , am gen x , in 80is was skinh acid wash , was rigt after the bell bottom from the 70is , in urly 90is was bagy i was 14-15 at the time , after regular , was 20-25 at the time , and since then i have stick to regular , style go also hand in hand with music , 80is was hair metal glam ,, m jacson and madona ,, 90is was hip hop and grunge , 2000 was dance tekno , and gothic imo ,,
Echoing what other people have already said - this video ignores the cyclical nature of fashion. Baggy pants are synonymous with youth culture for all generations. Comparing a generation which is still young and is only now entering the workforce (demanding more modest clothes) versus the current state of one which has already been working for decades misses a large part of the conversation. We haven’t seen Gen Z’s full scope of fashion, I’d argue we haven’t even seen it with Millennials either. Comparing Millennial youth culture and how they styled pants with the current state of Gen Z would have been a much more appropriate way to contrast the two.
Boomers slayed it Millennials brought back slim form fitting silhouettes Gen x was aweful. See Seinfeld Gen Z is the absolute worst, wearing cartoonish fits.
I’m 31. I used to go skinny, then slim taper, then slim, then regular taper, then relaxed taper/straight 😂. I kinda did think it’s cool that wider fits are more accepted but i can’t do wider than relaxed straight especially in raw denim.
The thing you have to remember is that millennials were wearing what Gen Z is wearing now 20 yrs ago. Fashion is cyclical. As a Millennial when I look at Gen Z. I just think I remember doing that back in the day.
Bruh this vid doesn’t consider hip hop at all because those gen z boys ain’t wearing baggy pants. Also as a black millennial man I wore baggy jeans until my early 20’s so not being associated with them is weird especially since that’s what gen z is taking inspiration from.
Gen z dresses trendier and takes more style risks, whereas millenials dress more within the norms but with more safe/classic looks. Mainly i feel like millenials, like many gens, stop progressing after a certain point, so their styles don't progress as much or they don't take new inspo. Ofc this doesn't apply to anyone up-to-date and fashionable. Genz vs millenial kinda reminds me of miu miu vs prada.
Got it so wrong. I was following guys that are millennials did the wide pants long before today gen z even knew what fashion was. And selvedge denim brands aren't just catering exclusively to gen z, everyone prefers wider pants now incl millennials 🤦
Im a Gen Z and I absolutely don't understand how can you casually wear the pants so baggy they mop the streets better than all the street cleaners in the neighborhood. It's just so impractical. And in winter? All the mud from the cars will be there. Im wearing straight pants, thanks
I was born 1999. So I’m an elder Gen Z, and growing up I took a lot of influence from my older, millennial sibling. As a kid I remember wearing a lot of baggy pants and clothes in general. I wanted to look like lil bow wow or Chris Brown back in those days. Then shifted hard to fitted clothes in my teen years. Going through an emo/skater phase in 2013 filled my closet with tight pants and shirts. Now at 25, I find myself leaning back into looser and wide fitting clothes. So I guess we mix 🤷🏽♂️
I’m a millennial and as a kid baggy was part of hip hop. Fast forward I like baggy and straight leg. So in between. I’m 39
Im 41 and I agree with this
I’m 34 and I agree. We always wore baggy pants in the 90’s and the 2000’s To me gen z is taking from all these older styles and making it their own.
Word, 38 yr female and I wore baggy through high school, a little skinny in my 20s, and now I'm an in-between trouser fit simply because it's most flattering on my frame and I look classy and timeless.
41 here, If you couldn't fit two people in your pants they weren't baggy enough
We made fun of skinny jeans
Gen Z pants styles are just Millennial Black/Hip Hop style. We were doing that’s back in the 90s and early 2000s. It’s literally Black Y2K style pants
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I definitely agree, but Gen Z looks odd in them, it’s as if the pants are wearing them. Another way to say it is ‘trying to hard’.
I agree, but as a gen x-er I want to add that it was as teens in the early-mid 90’s that we were wearing these too. influenced by hip hop but also the rave scene too, and then dabbled in baggy grunge also. Graduated in 94 and baggy pants were already quite popular in both scenes even in suburban Australia, widely available from mainstream youth focused fashion labels at the mall. The cultures and stars we were attempting to emulate were a little older than us and all gen x.
Anecdotally, my mum recently found a photo of me from ‘93 doing my best to represent… my white very average middle class suburban Aussie girl life, she had a good laugh and said in retrospect she’s glad she had a teen girl/young adult during the ‘tomboy’ era, made life easier for her! She was the same age in UK in the 60’s and remembers many arguments with her parents about mini skirts and high-heeled knee length boots and lots of makeup etc, so she said she got to skip all that with me! To be clear, absolutely zero shaming about various looks, just the observations of a parent with a teen/young adult daughter. I eventually learned how to wear heels and makeup, sort of! My main point being it was already big with gen-x, the sub-cultures and their stars and influencers also gen-Xers. Though it obviously continued to grow in popularity as my millennial siblings came of age nearly a decade later.
I think for a lot of millennials, such as myself, the reason why we are reluctant to fully embrace wide leg/baggy styles today is because we already did decades ago. Late 90's and early 00's baggy jeans were the norm, due to the popularity of hip hop, and nu metal. It wasn't until the mid 00's were skinny/slimmer jeans took over. So for a lot of us, we just out grew that style.
Exactly, we did it already! i saw the kids nowadays and its like a flashback to 2003, they are wearing as we dress in the 90's and 2000's, the same hair, same glasses, etc.
and skinny jeans started in the 70s and 80s
@@gsj210yeah but I'm Milenial and I love my skinny jeans ☺️
Millennial here and I disagree. I was so happy when all the 90s stuff came back around, though that might partially be because I was a kid and didn't get to do much with it at the time.
I’m not sure about that tbh. I think many millennials have 9-5 jobs vs gen z who just started working or are still in uni. If you work a 9-5 it’s tough to pull up to the office with wide leg jeans. A lot of the gen z fashion is also influenced by things millennials used to wear when growing up. So it’s just a repetition for many. So it’s a tricky one. Gen z didn’t invent the current trend but is inspired by what millennials used to wear and millennials won’t spend money on clothes they can’t wear.
They be rocking the Levi’s poster fits lol
all fashion is recycled since it's just a cyclical thing
@@nen1811 yess! Totally agree. That’s why I don’t get how millennials could be influenced by gen z if a lot of the trends at the moment are influenced by what millennials wore when they grew up…
@@aligotbeatsit gets reinterpreted and there is always innovation. I think it’s only natural for there to be mutual influence
This comment is such a reality check for me genuinely hoping to be able to rock wider pants in a year or two that I'll have a stable job once I finish studying (24 now)
Gen Z takes a lot of references from millennials. I see a lot of 90’s rave , 90’s skaters, grunge aesthetic, 90’s/Y2K boy and girl bands, and 90’s/Y2K hip hop and R&B, and now even the 90’s/Y2K preppy look with the quiet luxury trend
And it’s not just the pants. But the sunglasses, proportions, fits…heck even the way people edit photos and videos to have that retro VHS or film aesthetic.
I see gen z’s style as taking millennial fashion and trying to recreate it with their own flavour
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To be honest this is the correct answer because bell bottoms
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Drew focusing on the age groups he is familiar with is understandable. Gen X here, most of us know fashion repeats over & over. My current and forever fav in addition to a wide leg pant is a kick flare. Levi’s has a vintage 517 that gives a good leg. Some of my timeless collectibles have been in my wardrobe since 2000. Being 48 and still plugged into fashion is the most liberating feeling. One word of advice is to be very careful about purging over the years. Some of the best fashions you’ll come across are in your young closets right now.
I'm a Gen Z, grew up wearing whatever my family threw at me since my family members are all tailors. Experiencing every kind of pants from skinny to baggy and wide fitting pants but I always ended up wearing the same old 501 since its my daily pair of pants. I think that straight leg pants are always stylish compare to others
as millennial, 92 i wore in puberty a lot of hip hop style so wide pants became normal and natural. i did go for skinny as well to try it out. now i have big collections of different pants and choosing them as pieces where fit, color, texture and fit need to be in perfect harmony and historical reference is a bonus. that gives me a big range to express and i dont feel bound to one thing.
Yeah same bro I went through that skinny phase. So all types of fits!!
One thing to note about gen Z style I do feel like there is a contrast between online tiktok fashion and what gen z people wear in everyday life which is sometimes less out there like millenials
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You need to put Subway Surfers on the bottom half of the video in order for GenZ to make it to the PVV 🤣
Mf he is gen z
My brother in christ, you're talking about gen alpha
i think thats gen alpha 😂
as a millennial with adhd I love SS at the bottom
Millennials in the 90s and early 2000s been wearing baggy jeans. Then it went to skinny now back to baggy but more refined. Fashion recycles constantly. I'm a Millennial but I like the way Gen Z has styled baggy pants. But I wear wide, slim, to straight pants depending on the look I want. Don't limit yourself to what generation you fall under.
I’m handing it to Millennials because I’m in Gen Z but was born in 99’ so a bunch of Zoomers on Tik Tok decided to call me Unc because I wasn’t born in the 2000s.
To have a proper comparison, we should look at how Millennials were styling pants/clothes when they were younger,
close to the age of Gen Z today.
For example, you were born in 1997, so you are almost 27 today. I was born in ‘84, so I am 40 today. I bet you won’t be styling your clothes in the same way as you do today when you’ll be 40, as I don’t style my clothes the same way as I was doing when I was 27. So, kinda hard to compare because we are looking at two very different age groups.
And those who are very close to the generational border, as Millennials born between ‘94-‘96 are, sociologically speaking they are considered to be a hybrid, as I am close to Xers and so on.
In terms of the looks you presented, the millennial styles looked 100x better than the gen z looks, in my personal preference. They look more polished and classic. But hey! I'm a millennial so that should be no surprise.
Gen Z look like mall rats, lol.
GenZ call themselves clowns when they see their 5 years old pics wearing the same skinny jeans which are untouchable to them today. And they will call themselves clown after 5 years when they see themselves in these loose wide fits. LOL. simple reason - New gen is quick to follow trends. and they dont care about a classic piece.
As a person born in 2005 I've never worn skinny jeans in my life, skinniest being straight fit. This is simply because I found skinny jeans uncomfortable. I severely doubt the super skinny will go back in the limelight in the foreseeable future simply because of this. People like stuff that looks good but also is comfortable. Also theres been a recent bias to just wear what you like personally and a heavy emphasis of complimenting your body type with the silhouette of your clothes. This leans towards individualism rather than the trends you speak of.
I’m a millennial in my 30s. The baggy jeans style you see today is what we wore when I was in middle/high school, influenced by 2000s hip hop culture at the time. Then in the 2010s it went to skinny jeans. And then slim/straight leg which is what I currently wear. The gen z baggy fit doesn’t fit my current style/aesthetic, and also I’m a bigger guy and baggy clothes tend to make me look sloppy. But I do like a slightly oversized fit on a hoodie.
It’s hard to choose without feeling bias, due to loose fitting/ baggy bottoms being so popular and refreshed into daily fashion I’m going to lean towards that look (though I’m millennial) I still remember the shift in the early 2000’s when I started wearing skinny’s and felt so misunderstood fashion wise because all of my peers were still rocking baggy fits with XXXL tee shirts 😂 I just feel like doing the opposite of what’s trendy will forever be my thing, being ahead of what’s in and then watching it blow up to the masses will always be satisfying.
Team Millennial!! 1985!!😂🤟🏿
I love the fact that Drew made his voice tone up a little bit in this video😂
There’s so many content creators that have pitched up over time lmaoo
Tried to give a bit more energy 😂
I always enjoy your essays and this one was also a treat. I have no horse in the Gen Z vs Millennials race, but I have to admit I'm finding it refreshing that wider-legged pants are coming back into style. I liked what we used to call skater pants because they were so much more comfortable, and I appreciated the androgynous/unisex lines that I could play with in that era for more femme or masc leaning looks. Since Millennials were driving the locomotive on the train to the skinny jeans apocalypses, I have to say that I appreciate Gen Z pants style in this era and I'm glad to see some new things that I can adapt to my style.
And I'd agree, the older viewers are more likely to stay until the end of the post-vid vid.
Excellent breakdown as always, Drew! I’m a Millennial (born in ‘88) but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t inspired by Gen Z’s looser more relaxed silhouettes and fits.
I rode the skinny jeans wave for a few years when it was popular, and slim-taper fits were my jam Millennials after. But as someone who never rocked JNCO back in the 90s, recently I’ve been coming around to looser cuts. How have I been missing out? 😂
JNCOs were the wave in the late 90s early 00s! thanks to the punk rock/alternative scene. I remember it well and I was born a year after you.
As a gen z, I love millennials fits. They dress as themself but not trying to push everything to the limit.
i’m a 97 zillennial as well and a good bootcut/flare jean had me in a CHOKEHOLD even through the skinny jeans epidemic😂 in the past couple years i’ve been into a more gen z wide, baggy jean but now i feel myself entering a yeehaw era (i’m from texas lol) and the bootcuts are calling to me again……..
As a millennial I think that we kind of have matured with our styles. When we wore skinny jeans back in the days, it was all about trend hopping and trying to fit in. So we wore skinny jeans because of social pressure and social media (mainly instagram). Similar what Gen Zs are experiencing now. At that moment, we never thought baggy pants will ever come back. However, it happened. And most of us realised how stupid it was to follow trends because we basically had to throw away majority of our waredrobe.
So because of that, I believe that two ideas of styles developed. The first category, which probably 90 % of all millenials fall into is that they have become really basic, minimalistic and raditionel. Because of our experience with skinny jeans we shy away from any extreme sillouette. Which means no extremely baggy pants. Yes, our sillouettes are more relaxed, but never as extreme as we see Gen Zs. That is why Millenial style seems to be more sophisticated, basic, classic and some might say even boring.
The second category are those 1-10 % that are still massively into fashion. Those however, do not care about trends at all and trying to implement their own ideas. This would be the celebrities that have a major influence on Gen Z fashion aswell. Because they do not shy away from wearing something new others wouldn't think about.
Too much of anything is too much. We had too skinny, now we have too wide. It’s disgusting having your pants drag on the sidewalk collecting all the bacteria from the streets.
It’s this pendulum effect between extremes. I’m seeing people already start talking about “bringing skinny jeans back” when straight pants have always been the the best option in my opinion
@@Woohoochanyep. Straight silhouettes like Levi’s 501 are a classic for a reason.
Millennials for the win #95baby
6:02 Gen z are just literally wearing pants (and everything.. umm y2k) like millennials did 20 years ago. Nothing new here, it just looks more intentional now.
as a millenial... Gen Z. lmao
‘95 millennial here, I love a straight leg, wide leg, flared led, tapered leg, and balloon leg. Balloon leg right now is 😙👌
Perfect mix of a tapered leg and wide leg
I’m gen X (born 1961) but influenced into loving extreme oversized low hanging pants (thrifted) paired with a tight fitting top and, to do justice to age and status (😜) an expensive looking bag
Baggy 👖 also worn by millennials when they were trending back in the day.
I'm born in the 80s, grew up in the 90s through the 2000s.... And i thank the genZ to take us all out of skinny pants inferno!! Peace and positive vibes for 2024 🇨🇵👊
9:35 i agree so much as a genz! Some of y'all be sleeping on the grandpa and grandma drip! ive seen some old people have more style then my class combined hahahja
Can you say it louder for the generation in the back? I’m Gen X and have never dripped harder than after age 45. My budget is elevated, my closet is curated, a vintage collectors dream at this point! Thanks for the acknowledgment #auntiehere 😂
Same here I'm 39 years old love baggy jeans
Gen Z style is just old Millennial style. We already been there, done that and wore those items 25 years ago. We grew into our own personal style and what works best for our bodies. I think many of us are also over social media and the need for attention that comes with tik tok fashion.
Lol you lost me in this one. Im a millennial and been wearing baggy pants till the late 2000s. Makes me kinda laugh that baggy pants are a big deal now again. Millenials are now getting older and more matured so their style is more subdued. You should have compared gen z style from this era to millennial style from the 2000s. Hands down millenials will win then. Just check any rap videos from the 2000s and you will know who which era was better and which generation did it better.
millennials hands down; i don’t believe in a man wearing baggy pants, i don’t like them too tight either, the more slim cut is perfect , correct measurements is key too
I like wide pants, but I'm not Gen Z or Millenial. What I notice most in Manhattan (in the past year) is women wearing leggings as pants, and I'm confused about why that is OK but skinny jeans are not, lol. I will be very happy to see that give way to wide pants. Anyway the Gen Z people in my life are definitely very creative with their fashion, especially the men. I kind of feel like for Millenials life has been really hard and it shows, and it makes me want to give them all a collective hug.
Leggings are just very comfortable and custom fit the body so I think ppl tend to wear them more because of that. I think more people would buy wide leg if it wasn't so hard to find pants that fit both your waist and hips and thighs. Also wide leg pants have a different vibe and aren't as sexy so many women may not choose those when going for a particular look
is it generational or is it just...age? in fifteen years, gen z will be the age of millenials and I can guarantee will be dressing a lot more how millenials dress now than wearing ott fits and baggy jeans. if we were having this conversation fifteen, twenty years ago during the hipster/indie sleeze/Y2K era, yeah millenials outfits were more interesting than those gen x was wearing at the same time (same thing goes for gen x in the 90s compared to the prior generation and so on) but your lifestyle changes and with it so does your needs from clothes.
most fashion trends are started by the youth and are just tweaked from generation to generation. You can find photos from decades back who dress just like people in this video. 🧿
As a millennial, I second the post vid-video take lol
As a millennial myself I agree that Gen Z have a better appreciation for fashion than we did. Although at the same time, Gen Z just took styles from back in the day and made them theirs. So you guys are HEAVILY influenced by other generations. Yes, including millennials. So much of your style reminds me of my teenage years and how fashion was before the 2010’s started.
Born in 78 but not sure what gen I feel or dress like. Absolutely adore the shoulder pads era and early maximalistic 90's but wide pants have stolen my heart a little bit. So comfy, so great to style with vintage. Not subscribing to any social media aesthetic have always been classic and going for second hand, lately designer vintage but watching a lot of fashion content. Mostly from more artsy and "intelligentia" content in break down and analysis format like yours. The whole social - interpersonal - self expression aspect is extremely fascinating. Love how also you as part of the young generation can give such a deep insight to this. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I don't have tiktok, the only tiktoks I watch are the ones regurgitated by youtube commentators. I also don't wear pants.
Gen has z re-introduced the wide legged pant. I’m gen x and we did wear very wide legged jeans around 1990. H&M sold the most popular model called «Super loose». Later they introduced «Mega loose».
Millenials love to show ankle, that’s my take
What I see as the generations come along, we tend to dabble in reaching back as well as melding styles from the present together to create new things.
Also, I grew up in the 90s... I have an appreciation for seeing wide pants. But boy, wearing them takes so effort for me. I love a tapered pant. I can't even enjoy Levi's 501 because of how wide they look on my already big legs!
I wore baggy pants back when I was a kid and that’s what gen z is doing now lol when they grow up I’m sure they’ll be more snug & tapered
this video was so interesting!! I'm a gen zer (born in 1999) but I definitely resonate more with millennial fashion. I always always go for a straight leg dickie or levi pant because I honestly just think theyre more flattering on me. I dont care at all about things needing to be timeless, but I feel like a lot of gen z fashion is based on super fast trend cycles and passing fads. obviously the baggy pant has a lot of history that other people have commented on but I won't be surprised if it's considered passe in a few years by gen z. I guess it's not really about the baggy pant, it's more about originality and intentions (wearing clothes that resonate with you as an individual) that I feel like is kind of lacking with gen z at the moment
millennial here.
gen z typically does fashion IN GENERAL better than we did. BUT... they wouldn't be able to do what they do without the failures of us and the generations before us.
as a millennial, i've made many style mistakes over the years and i have the edge of hindsight and experience.
i have a lot of g3n z kids that come to me for style tips and general fashion insight. but i definitely takes a lof of style cues from them as well.
As a MILLENNIAL I can CONFIRM that Gen Z is doing better with the pants bar none, there are millennials that do astronomical things with our styling of pants in fashion of course, not taking away from us.. However, Gen Z and this true fearlessness when in reference to fashion is top tier and inspiring! When I was in high school we had shutter shades and the birth of hypebeasts 😂 sooo I’ve seen it all the errors and trials it took to get here trust me. Millennials dressed more like the current energy now as children, when Gen Z was not even a thought or fresh out 🐣In conclusion Gen Z lowkey restored my faith in fashion and individuality and confidence is what we as community MUST be on! Here’s the torch..
Born in 92- but get inspo from Gen Z for sure. Shout out to Drew for acknowledging JNCO lol
I never did like skinnies but wore them because I wanted to look up to date with the current trends at the time but quickly discovered straight leg was the best fit for my body type. I do go for the wider straight leg pant - not all pants are made the same btw lol so one brands straight fit might more fitted than another’s. Gen Z does pants better as far as putting dope fits together but Millennials have the timeless look like our man Drew said. Once GenZ hits their 30s I highly doubt they’ll still want to wear such wide pants lol
What's kind of cool to me is that I'm coming at this from the angle of an alternative young millennial. I'm taking "bought Tripp pants from Hot Topic in the mid-2000s" type guy. I don't adhere to only buying men's pants (if they fit, I sit) but I favor slim cuts because they work with my proportions. I've noticed with specifically Tripp NYC -- they used to put out the huge, JNCO leg pants with all the hardware and extra bits, and then as I was reaching late teen/adulthood they were leaning hard into their rocker silhouette -- skinny, SKINNY jeans in various plaids (and, of course, black). But now some of the new styles I'm seeing are relaxed fit, or flared/boot cut. They still keep all the hardware and extra bits, and you can still buy "outdated" cuts if you could call them that, but they've been working their way through silhouettes to keep current.
Og hot topic was a vibe I like the original extra baggy look. I used to just get my music shirts from there and other things.
I love generational dressing and breaking it all down. Great video! I am the oldest of Gen X, which we never are the trend setters but the fun is we get to play in all the decades. I love what Gen Z is doing with pants. The looks are very creative! I love the wide leg pant mixed with all of the layering and even 90s preppy. It's like street wear grew up. As an older person, I watch your chanel regularly and love your takes on things. Keep up the great work!
I’m 32 but I look about 25 so I can “get away” with wearing Gen Z styles, I’m so glad you pointed out most current style icons are millennials because I’m constantly saying that when people say millennials style sucks.
I’m gen x. I like wide leg pants. I’m so tired of skinny jeans.
You got me with PANTALONES 😂
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Im on the edge of beeing a boomer (born in 81) And im taking inspiration from all periods, but since im grown up with 90s Rap and Hip hop my base is there and then i use bits and bobs from other eras. I have allways been in to baggy pants, but im not paring that with a baggy tee and a baggy hoodie (90s Nelly) So im taking some styling ques from Gen Zs since they are doing things in fashion i never would think about..
Alpha Gen gonna kick those Baggys to go back to Skinnys... Eternal Circle of fashion.
You said it best. History repeats itself.
Skinny isn't going to repeat especially for men. Because only men with slim straight leg look good on skinny jeans. You need a specific body type if you are planing to wear anything skinny. It's like compression t shirt for men/women it only look good on particular body type like ⌛🔽
@@rd3munna812Yuh-uh, that's what everybody said in the late 00s when skinnies started to become mainstream, I remember all the furor and complaining around skinnies, especially from men. Two years later, skinny jean apocalypse begins and men wear skinnies. We repeated the same talking points, by the way, buh-buh-buh-body shapes and all. You literally sound like I did 15 years ago. "This will never catch on, it only flatters a certain body ty--- oh. Okay. Everybody's wearing it now."
Gen X’er here. I embraced pants in 2023. I’m a dress girl to the point that hubby,friends and family comment when I wear pants. I think that for pants and general styling Millennial style is better curated, not as trend driven and has better fit/tailoring. I lived through super wide legged pants 2x and it’s fun for about a year then it gets dumb looking real quick. I just ordered 2 pairs of wider/straight legged jeans. I should’ve kept the more moderate ones I bought in the early 2000’s it’s literally the same silhouette. So I’m buying quality and will store them in 2026 for the resurgence in 2035. But in my heart…. I’m a skinny Jean girl 😂🧓🏾
Also Gen X here! I commented a little bit ago giving advice to not over purge when doing closet clean outs. Your comment makes me feel validated in giving that advice 😊
let’s bring back skinny zipper denim with the knee blowouts
i might be a little biased, but it's always gonna be genz winning. muchhh more expressive + dramatic, so gen z has an advantage over fashion !
It’s kind of a big misconception that baggy/wide fitting pants are a new trendy thing. If you look at men’s tailoring from the 20th century, it’s overwhelmingly wide fitting pants
Millennials introduced the world to baggy styles in 80-90s. We would get hassled for wearing baggy pants in the 90’s. We did it when it wasn’t acceptable by mainstream. It’s just coming back.
I am Gen X,so we grew up in the same spectrum of the progression of style as today’s youth. I saw more fitted pants in the eighties and that grew into the baggy styles of the 90’s which were heavily influenced by Hip Hop. I wore both. Fast forward to the 2010’s and coupled with the reality of growing up and maturation, so my style tends to reflect that. I’m more of a slim to straight leg pants wearing person. It’s not that I don’t find wider styles stylish but, they don’t fit in with my personal minimalism of timeless fashion pieces such as the Black Ivy style you touched on in a past vid.
I find it hilarious a Japanese specialized clothing store, has a USMC HBT jacket. The Jacket US Marines wore while invading Japan.
I really think the younger you are the more you experiment eland try to push boundaries in style and other topics. There comes a point where to know yourself better and you stick to what you like better. Also your body changing with age and pregnancy per example will affect what you choose no matter the trends. Every generation is having great impact on fashion and I love seeing how it evolves. Thank you for your videos and your perspective.
Not sure you can fairly judge this 🤷♂️ what would you have been wearing at this age in 2009?
29yo here, I don’t like the ultra baggy pants or anything that’s ridiculous in my mind. However, the Uniqlo U Wide Chino and Wide Parachute Cargos are fucking incredible and perfect width for my taste and what I like to see. So stoked on them and has made me enjoy wearing pants again
As an older millennial, I saw a lot in fashion. I paid attention from the very early 90s, forward. I got to recognizing “form fitting” looks in the 2000s, much of what you still see in Hollywood which makes sense because it’s a very “clean” look that appeals to the masses. And it actually took me a long time to break away from this, even as fashion forward I thought I was. Especially when 90s aesthetics came back which I was definitely a part of as a kid, I think maturity has sort of refined my re-cycled look (not recycled). I won’t say who does it best because it always comes back to how someone adapts their style to their body build. Even with an oversized look, you can’t just slap on anything oversized. It’s gotta sit on your body “right”. There’s still a form-fitting aspect to the oversized look imo. And plus, if a GenZer does enough research, they’ll have a leg up on us more experienced fashionistas.
Side note: everything the Japanese wear, no matter slim or baggy/wide, always seem to look ultra cool on them! lol Maybe it’s just me. I just came back from there, and I never felt so fashionably inadequate!
Ageing has a lot to do with what millennials wear, because with time we stop experimenting and found our own style while youngs has more roon to experiment
Millennial here, I’ve loved wide-leg/baggy pants for as long as I can remember! BUT I never knew where to find exactly what I was looking for, and eventually gave in to the skinny jean craze since that was all that was really being made and sold(to my knowledge anyways). As soon as Gen-Z resurrected baggy pants from the ether, and what with things being MUCH easier to find nowadays, you best believe I threw out every pair of skinny jeans I owned and will now and forever be wearing my wider cuts, lest they be ripped from my cold dead hands😤
I believe that the young will always lead the way in fashion. Their youth and curiosity is a direct pathway to innovation. With the invention of social media it has become easier to refer to styles of yesteryear and find ways to make them new again. The current style to me is just a twist on 90's and 2000's hiphop culture (not the music videos but what people actually wore). It's what I saw people wearing in school, only slightly different, better. I literally used to wear wide leg jeans with oversized tops and durango boots. I also loved long oversized overcoats. My style then was very similar to what many young people are wearing now, 20 years later.
The real difference is the mixing of so many influences because we're all so much more connected because of the internet. The different cultures are not as separated as they used to be and that's giving gen z a lot to choose from to mix and match. In the future the next generation will innovate again and older people will draw inspiration from them just as they are now. It'll be interesting to see what they invent and reinvent.
Welp, I did the whole baggy look as a 90's and 2000's kid already. I don't need to retread that look. Been there done that. Gen Z rocking a look I did as a kid bc they never had the chance to do so is like us 90's kids wearing some of the 70's look in the 90's combined with our fashion senses. Just remember, that the 2010's look will be in vogue again by the same people crapping over it now. As some of us know who are not caught up in the moment or trend is that fashion and history repeats itself ALWAYS! You can COUNT ON IT! Personally, you can't top a tailored look bc that is always in style and when you look back in pictures no one will be like, "that look is so 2003 with trucker hats" and "Jesus is my home t-shirts". Trends for the most part are very dated and make you cringe when you look back on them. But at the time, no one could tell your ass shit bc you looked like everyone else.
Gen Z edges Millenials?? 👀
I always wore baggy jeans (grew up in the 90s and 2000s) and it took me so long to accept skinny jeans now I’m getting back to baggy and it feels different. I do like feeling less restrictive but I feel like the silhouette makes me appear shorter. I’m 5”9 210 pounds. I think I’m getting used to it though.
They got the baggy wide look from us. It’s all just revolving now. Kinda dope to see it become cool and retro
(born in 2000) I always had thick thighs and a booty even as a kid so I always had to wear pants that were 2-3 waist sizes to big for my true waist size and I couldn't do skinny jeans ever which was the standard when I was in middle school and high school. It's always been straigh fit or boot cut for me by default. I like getting a big pants to fit my dumpy in and then going to my dry cleaner to get them tailored to be 1/2 inch above the ankle. I really like the feeling of roomy pants but I don't like the feeling of my pants dragging on the ground (like heel bite can be cool, but I associate it with my awful middle school fits when I didn't get my pants tailored) so I found a middle ground for myself. For me I feel like it's a lot harder to play with volume in my pants because of my comfort preferences and because of the fact that my pants would have to be really fucking wild to create that flowy visual around my thighs and butt. On top of that I like wearing baggier tops so straighter and slightly wide pants work better for me IMO.
Also in PVV guy but also I watch everything on 1.75x speed at least to I can consume more content in it's completely quicker so...
I have a feeling that the fashion for wide jeans does not take into account people who are not tall in terms of conventionality. Most likely, such people will face condemnation for both skinny jeans and “wrong” square proportions in buggy pants. Not to mention people with a slightly above average weight.
I'm a millennial. Gen Z completely destroys us on pants. Back in the late 90s / early 2000s some of us had something but we just completely lost the plot after that.
I'm too old for the Gen Z pants style, but I like it. I stick to a very classic, minimal, military inspired style.
I'm GenX.
Born in 87 so a millennial. The thing with Gen Z fashion you guys are largely wearing the stuff my generation wore when we were 12-16. In the early 2000s I wore baggie pants and Osiris shoes. If I wore baggy pants and Osiris shoes now I would feel like a little kid. I know that's not the case for you guys since you got into these baggie trends into adulthood. For me it's slim fit/tapered pants and neutral colors for life.
As a millennial born right in the middle of the generation I grew up wearing the baggy pants and oversized clothes that Gen Z is wearing now until I was about 20. Seeing all the oversized and baggy stuff is honestly just real cringy to me now and is far worse than skinny jeans (which also of course looks bad). It honestly just looks like Gen Z raided their dads closet and took either his childhood clothes from the 90s or they are trying to wear their big brothers clothes that are 2 sizes too big for them. The solution is just wear clothes that your body fit correctly and aren’t too tight or baggy and for pants that’s gonna be a slim or straight cut for most people and not a skinny or a baggy cut.
I am Gen X, I can't believe Millennials are getting 'old.' 🙂
I think Gen Z dressed ore individualistically than Gen X and Millennials, so good for them.
As people get older, they generally tend to dress more predictably rather than trendy and/or experimentally.
I think wide/loose pants look better on people with skinnier waistline. Come to think it of, every kind of pants look better on people with skinny waistline. 😆
As much as I enjoyed this and always really like your work, the line of questioning is intrinsically flawed. The youth are always at the forefront of whatever fashion trends the industry pushes, so to say that the wide styles that are currently in are Gen Z pants / created by Gen Z / reflect the generation, whereas skinnier fits reflect millennials, is simply untrue. Cause and effect have been confused here.
When millennials wear the currently-trendy wide styles (or anything currently trendy), they're not doing it because Gen Z has influenced them to change from their 'millennial style'. They're doing it because it's trendy, and trends just happen to be pushed on and by the youth, who are hired by the fashion industry, who are in the spotlight as exciting upcoming artists, musicians, etc., and who have more leisure time and parents' money, less depth to their personality beyond the superficial yet, and fewer responsibilities as a product of their age.
So if the people influencing millennials to wear wider cuts happen to be Gen Z members, it's a coincide and not the case that a generation has a claim on a certain style. The (false) implication is that your generation's style is whatever was cool when you were young, which is the case for many lazy people but not the case for the people from any generation who care about fashion.
On the 2010s being a wonky era deemed unworthy of a comeback, I don't think that prediction is going to hold up for long. Britpop, prep, indie sleaze and Tumblr aesthetics are creeping back in (ballet flats and lower profile shoes and tons of Topshop looking things in stores are evidence).
I'm a millennial and give it to Gen Z, they pulled off the baggy jean fits better, maybe more options, But growing up all my stuff were older cousin clothing. Drew takes the hip hop sample approach to fashion,
I’m a young millennial and yes, all my jeans are either straight leg or tapered! But I would wear wide leg if I found a flattering pair.
Gen-Z style looks like they just grabbed a bunch of stuff at goodwill. (not that there's anything wrong with ,)
i've got $20 in my pocket so, i'll have to go pop me some tags later.
pants style change throw the years , am gen x , in 80is was skinh acid wash , was rigt after the bell bottom from the 70is , in urly 90is was bagy i was 14-15 at the time , after regular , was 20-25 at the time , and since then i have stick to regular , style go also hand in hand with music , 80is was hair metal glam ,, m jacson and madona ,, 90is was hip hop and grunge , 2000 was dance tekno , and gothic imo ,,
Echoing what other people have already said - this video ignores the cyclical nature of fashion. Baggy pants are synonymous with youth culture for all generations. Comparing a generation which is still young and is only now entering the workforce (demanding more modest clothes) versus the current state of one which has already been working for decades misses a large part of the conversation. We haven’t seen Gen Z’s full scope of fashion, I’d argue we haven’t even seen it with Millennials either. Comparing Millennial youth culture and how they styled pants with the current state of Gen Z would have been a much more appropriate way to contrast the two.
Boomers slayed it
Millennials brought back slim form fitting silhouettes
Gen x was aweful. See Seinfeld
Gen Z is the absolute worst, wearing cartoonish fits.
I’m 31. I used to go skinny, then slim taper, then slim, then regular taper, then relaxed taper/straight 😂. I kinda did think it’s cool that wider fits are more accepted but i can’t do wider than relaxed straight especially in raw denim.
Green Day outfits in When I Come Around video defined my style for life. Saw it in 2001. Those dudes are boomers, not even millennials lol
The thing you have to remember is that millennials were wearing what Gen Z is wearing now 20 yrs ago. Fashion is cyclical. As a Millennial when I look at Gen Z. I just think I remember doing that back in the day.
Bruh this vid doesn’t consider hip hop at all because those gen z boys ain’t wearing baggy pants. Also as a black millennial man I wore baggy jeans until my early 20’s so not being associated with them is weird especially since that’s what gen z is taking inspiration from.
Gen z dresses trendier and takes more style risks, whereas millenials dress more within the norms but with more safe/classic looks. Mainly i feel like millenials, like many gens, stop progressing after a certain point, so their styles don't progress as much or they don't take new inspo. Ofc this doesn't apply to anyone up-to-date and fashionable. Genz vs millenial kinda reminds me of miu miu vs prada.
Got it so wrong. I was following guys that are millennials did the wide pants long before today gen z even knew what fashion was. And selvedge denim brands aren't just catering exclusively to gen z, everyone prefers wider pants now incl millennials 🤦
Im a Gen Z and I absolutely don't understand how can you casually wear the pants so baggy they mop the streets better than all the street cleaners in the neighborhood. It's just so impractical. And in winter? All the mud from the cars will be there. Im wearing straight pants, thanks
I was born 1999. So I’m an elder Gen Z, and growing up I took a lot of influence from my older, millennial sibling. As a kid I remember wearing a lot of baggy pants and clothes in general. I wanted to look like lil bow wow or Chris Brown back in those days. Then shifted hard to fitted clothes in my teen years. Going through an emo/skater phase in 2013 filled my closet with tight pants and shirts. Now at 25, I find myself leaning back into looser and wide fitting clothes. So I guess we mix 🤷🏽♂️