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Porsche is designing super light pistons which are only possible by means of 3D printing. These light pistons will add a claimed 30 horsepower, but how can something a simple as a piston add that much mo' powah babeh? And why does it require 3D printing?
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Everyone else is moving towards electric, but Porsche is still pushing the internal combustion engine further. This makes me happy
Mazda started to invest in synthetic fuels as well
Most likely still see ice produce by mazda
hope we can all move to ethanol fuel, less pollution and more powerful
@Jack Russelle Lewis Why? Just because of more power?
@Jack Russelle Lewis it doesn't. the main problem with ethanol is rioting the fuel lines. as long as these parts can be modified or replaced to with stand ethanol it would be fine. I have a e85 converted s3 and it has been running fine. just need the right mods.
The piston slap animation made me wince, I won't be starting my engine anymore
Just don't rev above 2k until it's warm :)
@@dtemp132 what if my cold idle rpm is 1800rpm 😳
@@TheCarpenterUnion it's safev
I felt hurt seeing the animation
I felt the slaps and grinds
from what I understand, piston slap occurs only with forged pistons, which probably your car doesnt have
Mechanic: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Engineer: "If it ain't broke, your not trying hard enough."
You mixed up an engineer with Red Green. An engineer is asking how long and how much to get this to break.
@@TheUserid82 ok
I am an engineer and I confirm that. I basically spend my day splashing WD40 on bunch of duct tapes to make them move and adding more duct tapes when they move to stop them from moving.
"If it ain't broke......
Break it."
Also engineer.... (at ford)
"Let's make 16 different toe links for this explorer cause fuck mechanics!"
If "If it ain't broke don't fix it" existed in engineer's minds we would still be using horses and hand made tools. This is frickin awesome!
Gasoline cars are the new horse when compared to electric cars
@@justin60222 they possibly will be in the future but stopping development on ICEs now could hurt manufacturers' short to mid term future as EVs are not mature enough to completely take over the market.
we'd be out of a job if we did thats why. Engineers do for a pound, what any idiot can do for ten. Sooner or later every idiot catches up just by persistence... so we do it for ten pence, and the cycle continues :D
@@darkonnis Anyone can make something but can you optimize something and back everything up with science and know exactly what's going on? when it fail, etc
@@NeoHCgbz whose that then?
One step closer to 3D printing an entire car.
*YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR*
@@sgal5845 *YOU ALREADY CAN*
Download a rc car
Funny seeing you here...
Wait you can’t 3d print cars yet? I heard you can 3d print houses lol
I think this quote fits perfectly here “ normal people believe that if it an’t broke don’t fix it. Engineers believe that if it an’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet”
Engineers: If it isn’t broken, we have over built it and have used up to much material to do so.
Well somebody has to be paid to do new stuff
@@paolobramucci3609 so sad but reality as it is now. how can we give the consumer less and charge them more.
german tank manufacturers be like "if it ain't broke don't fix it. unless it is the transmission"
@@SuperchargedHornet I mean if only 3rd is gone that isn't the end of the world!
“If it’s not optimal, it’s broken!” All Germans.
in der Tat!
*everyone else other than Americans*
"If it's optimal(german), it's broken, with a huge repair bill." The Rest of the World.
@@austinwolfe7295 that’s pretty racist
@@lilhotdog7011 that's pretty racist of you to assume he's racist
Im sure this will be ready sooner than 10 years!
Theyre taking a page out of sleepy Joe's book, say there's another 100 days to stop covid but open everything in may.
Or someone selling a cup of coffee for $20 but marking it down to $5 to make the consumer think they're saving $15, when the cup is only worth $1
So youre most likely right. They will say 10 years, have it available in 2 years but with a price hike, "look how awesome we are that we got it out sooner" durrrr lol
In 10 years you can't even drive ICE anymore xD atleast to some government plans :P
@@Koichifirst Same thoughts, lot of car manufacturers wan't to produce only electric cars from 2035. It's so sad we have these innovations so late.
@@Rambovits well but it's really hard to compete against electric, the efficiency is just so much bigger and likely getting even better. Biggest issue currently is mainly the battery and its production.
Is James and Nolan still gonna do a high low with Toyota Tacoma’s
I think so, they hinted at it awhile ago.
And Aaron said he is still working with donut a couple of days ago
That would be awesome! I have an 03 prerunner and would love to see parts compared.
You guys should definitely do another car and do the High low parts
Are James and Nolan...
That would be great
Imagine being able to 3d print broken flanges, mounts, housings, or even whole parts for cars not manufactured for decades
Jay Leno already uses this process on some of his cars. That's the only way to keep them on the road.
@@octopuswithatrident I mean not that i doubt it, but you got a link or something i can google?
@@ootmaster1 just go to his channel. I can't recall the exact one, but I'm sure that he talks about it in the middle of the the video.
Edit: th-cam.com/video/bwFspzVGUF4/w-d-xo.html
There's the video of him explaining how it works and how people can reach this specific company to print their parts. It's from 2017, in more recent videos I can recall him saying that specific part X was done 3D printing.
@@octopuswithatrident awesome thanks
Many parts are possible now. There are several shops that offer these services though they're not cheap.
as an engineering student I love when I hear projects involving biomimicry, it was one of my first engineering projects
I think that the best designer is nature; unlike humans, nature has designing things since, well, 4 billion years lol
Thank you for this fantastically produced and informative piece! More vids like this please 🙌 made my day
Car manufacturer: "guys, our budget's been cut and I don't think we can make a new engine"
3d printing guy: "bonjour"
Best part is 3d printers can print different things, not like casts that with one mold you have one piston. One day you can be printing camshaft other day - header. It brings possibilities of crazy prorotypes (some open source) and printing parts not obtainable now
@@Ishmael95 still, I think the durability is a day and night difference
More like: "willkommen" xD
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 the other issue with printing is it takes alot of time (especially for mass production) compared to traditional manufacturing methods.
you do realize that a metal 3d printer costs millions right? not to mention that it is not very fast at making parts
The "more power babey" got me nostalgic man
You stole my words, but i'm proud of it 😁
Oh man , it's a super nostalgic
I miss him man. And i miss up to speed
@@felixnorlin2816 what happened to James?
It not "more power babey" its "mo pawa babeh"
This is freaking amazing. Huge power to weight gains. Just amazing. Good job Porsche.
Jeremiah: "a design that's over 300 years old"
Donut Media: *shows a caption that says "first recorded use: 1838"*
What about the communal sponge?
@@gphilipc2031 I still use my communal sponge
@@gphilipc2031 chillin next to the poop knife
they should probably be improving electrical engines or even batteries. this today Its like improving horse carriages in 1910
Think that was when the first patent was filed. Pistons have been around since at least 300 BC the Greeks were using them and a couple of Archimedes designs used Pistons also.
European engineers are like: “If it ain’t broke, 3D print it”
On bro
If it ain't broke, figure out why that is, and make it so it's more likely to break but will give good results up to that point
Extremist if it aint broke summon it....nah ill take my 3rd grade paper model and use that
Please make a video on 5star global safety sandards of sport cars are they real safe
@@GingerNingerGames exactly. And make it where you have to have specific tools to work on everything. That's how you create a mechanics monopoly and screw the little man
"what's different about them than the pistons in your car?"
Me: *laughs in rotary*
wait if they apply the 3d printing to the rotary they might become usable
Sorry about your car’s disability :’((((
@@Gunship888 disability? You obviously don't know enough about rotaries
@@Bassplayermane they’re not reliable, don’t lie and play like they’re gods gift to car enthusiasts. Make your life easier and swap the dorito with a real engine.
@@Gunship888 mine has 186k miles on the original motor. Don't give in to the bs
man - you do a good video. great delivery and kept my attention till the end. i've had parts made from 3d printed Titanium and i can believe these pistons are a decade away. it's tricky stuff and not fast to do.
Jeremiah : read Zeiss
German : it reads Tseiz
I’m studying mechanical engineering, and my college has one of the direct metal laser sintering machines. They actually gave us mini pistons made from it at the end of one of my classes lol
The college I went to had one of those machines, my work study was in the lab where it operated.
What will it take for me to get one of those pistons? Also, hi, I'm in mechanical engineering too. What sort of industry do you want to go into after college? I'm thinking of going into the space industry myself.
Lucky. Studying mech. engineering as well and I have yet to find a sintering machine on our campus
That piston slap animation was terrifying
I TOTALLY AGREE! I was cringing hard...
I had a Yamaha VStar with factory forged pistons. It sounded like rod knock when it was cold idling for about 30 seconds.
2,000 miles on it.
Yeah...
This video is dope on some many levels! Thanks for making it!!
Imagine if they also could print the engine block as well. Especially if they were able to create ducts for cooling around the rest of the engine and make it even lighter.
Don’t give them any ideas; patent it.
Its already done. Expensive machine and very expensive parts. Greatest gain is uniformity in the material.
Rodin cars. They print everything. Motor, wheels, custom seat etc
“Less than a decade away...”all the while Porsche is moving heaven and earth to make the Taycan a thing.
Porsche is investing a lot in synthetic/carbon neutral fuels
I mean... one is a rapidly expanding market with tons of advertising potential and the other is potentially problematic piston tech for 20% of your users, which would you focus on?
@@A0SAirsoft it’s not about what I’d focus on, it’s about what VW Group is focusing on, and they’ve made electrification a matter of existential importance to them.
@@concernedcitizen2766 Porsche is quite autonomous from VAG, and they're not necessarily committing to all-electric, at least not yet.
@@18pluskiddo it’s true that they’re pretty autonomous, but not completely. The final word comes from Wolfsburg, not Stuttgart. Watch VW make Porsche accelerate their embrace of electrification.
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same
Who doesnt?
Best video I've seen on Donut Media. Really well done; good job guys.
Thank you very much for making this video. I learned a tremendous amount.
Day 311 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
Found you early legend continue the fight 💯
Early commenter
YES
You’re not the subscriber we deserve but the subscriber we need
Never gonna give you up
Day 4 of asking James to do an Up To Speed on Donut Media.
I think they should do a tour of the Donut HQ (possibly as a B2B?)
@@nathanjoseph4284 but an up to speed is need for all new fans.
Yesss keep this going
He needs to do one in general
Up to speed on his dad, I miss the old UUUP TOO SPEEEED ON THE ....,........!¡!¡
Saw this technology applied to turbo compressors also. Made for a much lighter component with faster spool up. Therefore you guessed it more power.
135÷24=5.625days
9:00 Timestamp
Imagine driving to work on Monday and driving full Throttle nonstop until Saturday afternoon then finally letting off the gas..... I feel like that's an insane achievement for a machine.
All I was thinking about at that point is how much fuel that took, and how many tonnes of CO2 were added to the balance sheet... Then again, it's probably standard procedure for engine manufacturers.
@@zJoriz If you compare it to the lifetime of a single car it's nothing. Better optimized parts will make cars more economical in the future wich will very rapidly rebalanced some tests.
3D printed girlfriends are also changing the game
Parents said I would never get a girlfriend but here we are
I had one of those but she broke up with me
@@uselesslyopinionated8447 😂😂😂
I don't want to sound creepy, but the first time i 3D printed my first female anime figurine, i felt some thing that i cannot describe. It was way more detailed than i expected it would be. maybe that's what people feel when they ride the first train ever invented.
Still hoping for household/person to be able to manufacture machines/robots by themselves a'la Ghost in the Shell.
Imagine cybernetic salon would be just like hair salon in the future, everybody can open one.
Oh i wanna add, i can now say "the future is here old man" to my pops lol
They called me a madman......
me: “i’m gonna pro charge my hemi and throw forged pistons in for more BOOOOOOST” *watches piston slap animation* “i think im fine being slow”
And that's why cast piston are better for daily.
Two words: low boost
@@ameunier41 a lot of old school cars had forged pistons from the factory, even in pretty mild applications. The primary advantage of casting is cost savings
That's why they recommend leaving high performance cars to idle before driving them
piston slap isnt bad you just really need to let it warm up and expand before going past like 2k rpm
That software is for real. I've used it on drones.
I'm amazed that I never heard about this until now. It seems like a perfect use case for SLM 3D printing.
B2B with Jeremiah is seriously my favorite thing on TH-cam.
agreed
Yes his research and knowledge on the subject make me smarter because I am learning and the way he explains it. It’s like perfect because it’s all facts. He better be getting his cut no cap
So dope. Imagine the gains for a motorcycle with one of these Pistons.
The acceleration on a crotch rocket will be even more insane
@@RobGcraft sport bike or super sport, not crotch rocket
I remember a few years back Orbital was doing some research using ceramic engine blocks and ceramic/metal hybrid pistons.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - A future left out
Try harder
If it aint broke it broke later
10:05 Holy shit haven't heard him in while!
me too man
Gotta love classic Pumphrey
I needed that one today
"Forged piston are made from a billet of aluminum" video of a dude hand forging a knife lol
@@snarkylive forged pistons are not made with a hammer, they are made with molds. nobody on the planet can made pistons consistently enough with a hammer. read a book.
@@snarkylive Lets not forget Cold Metal Forging . Cold forging is a metal shaping & manufacturing process in which bar stock is inserted into a die and squeezed into a second closed die. The process, completed is at room temperature or below the metal’s recrystallization temperature to form a metal into a desired shape or configuration
A steel knife lol
@@Kevin-dt9xm ehm it showed someone using a forge. That's why.
@@Kevin-dt9xm You don't even know the definition of forging. Yes, forged pistons are made with a hammer, a very big one that is called a hydraulic press.
A few videos you should look to educate yourself since you didn't mention wich books you had read....
th-cam.com/video/Jr6qk5wCPEQ/w-d-xo.html
Here forging connecting rods
th-cam.com/video/vlLb17MEmUY/w-d-xo.html
Its top-ology. The pistons are tope, (tight and dope), but the engineering is top-ology.
Great video.
That's cool that 3d printing and topographical optimization can be used to restore old cars and even make them competitive again.
He did the “ freaking lasers” perfectly lol
The fact that he made a switch reference gave me country childhood flash backs
Yes it’s finally here! ❤️
U are literally the best member of donut media, pls do all the videos
That was a great episode. Pretty technical for most viewers so I really appreciate that you guys made this
Germans are more like: if it ain’t broke design it to break soon so they have to pay you to fix it
This comment's gonna blow up
Haha perfect. Innovation sacrifices reliability and low price
Lol
only after 2000
W124 are fcking indestructible bassicly
That's the American way of designing things
Y'all should be the secretary of transportation. Love you.
Seen these 3d printed metal parts. They are really cool! The one i did see was stainless steel. Very complex print!
These pistons with Koenigseggs free valve tech, you got yourself a uniQue motor baby!
10:07 everyone when they hear the golden catchphrase 😂
I read this title in my notifications as “Donut Operator: 3D printed pistols are changing the game” 😂
I mean, that's true too. Honestly though, I prefer Flannel Daddy and Papa Kalash for my guntube entertainment.
Not wrong tho
They are it's called deterrence Dispensed
@@jaluek yea Ik that’s probably why I read it that way cause I’ve been watching stuff about 3D printed guns recently m
@@shred1894 whatchu know about the lord gun jesus
Awesome video. I learned a lot. Dig your sense of humor.
Great info. Thanks agin for the informative videos
panopoulos did it first the one with the fastest evo in the 1/4 mile
Carbon pistons from Panopoulos Racing
I love this, and the fact they're investing into synthetic fuels makes it even better
Same mazda also started to invest in it as well
@@christopherayala4619 pog
Koenigsegg made two cars compatible with that technology already
@@falcongamer5867 that's cool
"Switch off a tree...hurts like a mofo" *Vietnam flashback insues* 😭
the editing team on these is so overlooked
Waiting for D List of donut employees cars
That would be sick
I want a up to speed on Doug the demons life
This title looks like one of Scotty Kilmer
finally i found someone else pointing out that the title seems like a take on that lol
this is great content... congrats Jeremy!
I would watch a whole video of Nolan trying to skateboard
Ten years, and piston engines will be a antique oddity
Doritos man wet dream
@@lakostem Means?
@@neeljavia2965 I think he’s talking about rotaries?
All that technology and they're making pistons when they could be making a mkii ironman armor.
Yeah, like , you can 3D print you ARK reactor 😂😁🖒
@@matiasfpm just slap that taycan-battery pack on your back and you are fine ;D
Now, with 3D printed Con-Rods, 3D printer Crankshaft, 3D printed cylinder block and heads, 3D printer camshafts and 3D printed valves, or even 3D printed flywheel and Dampers, that's LA PERFECTION !
Creepy crawly machine was awesome. I don't remember the name, but i had the die cast car machine that let you make new and different style bodies for the car with flat plastic sheets that were heated and vacuumed into the mold... it was awesome
10:05 IS THE FREAKIN BEST PART OF THIS VID 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Absloutley love it 😍
They were called "Creepy Crawlers" I still remember the jingle! LOL
The return of "Mo Powah Babeh"
Nolan skating is the best thing i have ever seen, thanks a lot
We want an up to speed of James’s dad
No, we don't.
@@OneEyeDollar6 yes we do
@@nolanlembke9687 no we dont
@@DCAKAJ yes we do you heartless knife
3:39 jerry used to have to pick his own switch that he would be getting ass whipped with confirmed 😂
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one
Pick the dry one so it breaks.
@@EnlightenedSavage Nah cus then they go pick one on they own 😂😂
5:38 my homie goin sonic
The idea that we could start 3D printing parts for out of production cars on demand AND drastically reduce the cost of that production AND potentially improve the performance of those parts is the glimpse at paradise we've needed this past year
Maybe someone will make a new EVO 😜
Yooo I almost chocked on Cheetos puffs when I saw this was uploaded.
3:25 love the implication that forged pistons are made by blacksmiths!
im so happy james gets to say mo powah baybeh :D
Omg I missed hearing James say mo powa babeh!
I hope one day they will figure out the doritos version of it.
I'd call it 3D Doritos!
I think it is pretty possible!
3-D printed rotaries could save them from extinction, just need someone crazy enough to research it.
@@ghoulbuster1 maybe! Probably we could reach even higher engine speeds than now. Possibly even 15k RPM
I want to se Porsche's 3D printed pistons and koenigsegg's freevalve technology in the same engine. Someone make it happen :)
You mean Ferrari's 3D printed pistons
Look up Wesley Kagan on youtube, he's working on a DIY freevalve type valve train setup, using a Miata engine as his test platform.
@@dchamp1337 Imma check it out
The "save you money" part reminds me of the Mattress guy in Texas
They should apply this technology too making an engine block and other parts like heads, intakes and transmission's.
10:00 omg I thought it was gonna say up to speed was back.
Nolan: "Save you moneyyyyyyyy"
Mattress Mack: Hold my beer
The Austin powers “lasers” reference got me lifeless over hear 💀
Quality video. More power baby!
Imagine how much more a f1 car can rev and what all they can do with this tech
300 rpm. He said it in the video
@@kellypg F1 engines can't be compared to daily driven Porsches with reliability in mind.
old f1 engines used to do about 20,000rpm. they rev lower these days because they can make power at lower revs thanks to the turbo. also, they only have a set number of engines to last a full season, so dont stress them like they used to. i think the regulations cap the rpm to 15,000, but this is rarely if ever reached
"You wouldn't download a car..."
Soon...
Tons of aluminum powder must cost like a supercar. And we are on making engine piston what else.
@@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Fortunately, the surplus can be reused. BMW, for example, uses additive manufacturing (3D printing) for various parts already, like cylinder head for the S58 engine. I'm sure there's increased costs involved with investment, research and development but the parts are available in consumer-ish products so it't can't be that expensive. I think it's the time consuming process that is the biggest hurdle for reaching cost effectiveness. Just, speculating.
Porsche is already the best in the game, now getting even better. They truly make the best cars for people passionate about cars and driving.
the best dude at donut, great vid keep it braaap
I think every kid who grew up getting their ass whooped as a kid laughed sadly as they remember getting the switch from the tree
“Topological optimization” sounds like a sexual innuendo.
Every time he mispronounces "topological" take a shot
Fusion 360 had this feature available in the free version for a few months
@@asicdathens I used it during my addative manufacturing class from MIT. It's actually pretty user friendly.
@@themadmachinist8637 I know, I tried it but Autodesk's business model is prohibitive for the average amateur maker. In Europe the smallest license is like $600 / year. Switched to Freecad and not looking back. It took me like 2 months (evenings) to redesign my stuff from F360 to FC (There is a rather good topology optimization for FC as well).
Hell yeah..the return of the big bore muscle machines!!!!!
If these are available when I boost my eclipse, ima get some rod with those pistons
Y’all should do an up to speed on the Buick GS/GSX
Buick guys barely even talk about them. But, I would love to see it. I had a '70 GS 455.
@@9ZERO6 I think more people need to know about them and how badass the stage 2 option was
so how many pistons do you have?
**laughs in dorito**
how many doritos do ya have?
Those pistons are moving so fast it's unbelievable.
Mo power baby! Made me smile so big