WORLD'S FIRST 3D printed carbon fiber piston! Will it run?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2024
- We decided to find an answer to a question nobody asked! Will a 3D printed piston work in a real engine? If it runs, how long will it last? The results are surprising!
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Next, 3d print a copy of the piston, and then use it to mold and cast an aluminum version from pop cans, and see how long that lasts
This is actually a good idea they need to do this or even other people try this out it
I was about to type that, but then I thought about how rough the piston would be so they would need to turn it on a lathe or try using a drill press and doing some ghetto cutting on it to ensure it is perfectly round.
They need to do this
@@jonWilk8156 I think you meant to reply to the other guy
Garage 54 has done it before, you can check it out
Lol imagine getting a running unit on Craigslist and the damn piston is plastic 😂
lol The late night Craigslist sale ... I can only run it few seconds or I'll get a fine from the HOA. SOLD! lol
i mean a chinees piston is problably cheaper then having a 3rd printer and buying the materials. (even if you have a 3d machine)
It'd definitely be a epic April fools joke on a buddy 😂
New fear unlocked
@@fordwrecker1Hey Billy Bob, were going to Glamis for the whole week, you can use my old quad...it's got a fresh top end!
As a retired motorcycle technician and machinist rebuilding many 2 stroke and 4 stroke engines including drag bikes, this was pretty cool. I definitely didn't expect the 3D carbon fiber piston to last that long.
I wonder if it would be strong enough for boost if it would last ten seconds or less got me brain ticking on that one
@@richardschafer1911 Or even a turbo or supercharged.
Same here..I'm a retired motorcycle mechanic of 38years.😊
@@JeffreyPerrault-hk6xe cool! I started at a Kawasaki & BMW dealer in south Florida on May 13, 1979 as a bike assembler and picking up and delivering bikes. In 1985 I started working at a motorcycle machine shop working on street, dirt and ATV's and building drag bikes. 99° were Japanese bikes.
Ideas-
1. more rings
2. move the rings lower
3. paint the piston with heat resistant paint
4. keep makes these great vids!!!
paint the piston? not gonna work
@@pancake5830 Ever heard of ceramic coating on pistons?
wont work, the rings are a failure point. its metal with heat the piston and causer it to weaken. im interested in seeing actually cf piston
Glad to see Im not the only one putting 3d printed parts where they shouldn’t belong, Great video!
Honestly, TPU is absolutely insane. You can put that in a lot of places instead of metal as long as TPU doesn't get hot.
Hey Camden, your printed engine is awesome! I watched those vids when they were released. That was part of the reason I chose this engine, just to be different
Hello Camden, I love your videos
you sir are a pioneer.
@@iniqyInstead of metal? Are you sure you're talking about the right plastic? TPU is soft and bendy as shit.
Guys if you have other shops do this as well. You can start a plastic piston drag race. Meth, water injection whatever. The stress of winning before meltdown would be through the roof.
There's plenty enough meth at our local dragway already....
This would be sweet.
@EnkiMMXII that's methed up.
Pipe down now, yall quit methin' around.. ya hear?
sadly plastic pistons wouldn't work on nitromethane because of how quickly it would dissolve the piston interesting thought though considering it would solve the melting issue
2 Stroke stuffing is one of my favourite channels, so much patience and perseverance. I can almost smell the BP Racing mix two stroke smell from my youth.
Great video! Now you need to print the lower half of the piston that sustained no damage and thread on a CNC’d aluminum head, see how long that lasts…
This is why I started watching you guys. The excitement and the comradery of friends doing fun stuff together. No destroying $30,000 machines or smashing electric cars.
Electric cars are a$$
@@countryboydragonboy7561❤
They got me
dang i just remembered "BUBBA's Honda Drop" bubba's is a big harley biker bar in milwaulkee wisconsin ..and once a year you buy one ticket to get in and every thing else is free like beer buckets and two refrigerated beer trucks with taps on both sides ..we got a huey helicopter lifting little honda cars 500 feet into the sky only to be cut loose falling to their death every time after time ..as they tumble through the sky some land on all four wheels that instantly fly off on contact with earth causing the bodies of the poor little honda's to become flat as a pancake
Makes me wish I had friends.
That's awesome! You should look into getting another carbon fiber printed piston ceramic coated, so it will reflect and take the heat!
Make it like a big Truck Diesel, small steel top with ring slots and carbon skirts.
Ya, I was just thinking that myself as watching this. it would probably take more heat if you had a ceramic top or if it was electro-coated with a metal shell.
That’s awesome! Good to see boys still experimenting, we need more curious minds. Glad to see you guys exploring and enjoying yourselves.
2stroke stuffing is another great channel 👍🏻
I'm enjoying this video so far thanks guys
That is a good idea. It would probably last longer if you put a aluminum sleeve on top of the piston from keeping it melting.
If it was Leo's quad it'd be titanium piston and a fresh rear for his razor but nobody else would know........😂
and in somebody else's name to avoid debt collectors apparently.
@@vel87x oooffffffff
Says the brokie who has a broke house. Lets see your trailer trash uploaded too your channel.
I cant believe it i was screaming with you guys am hype right now love this type of videos buddys inventing stuff in the shop is awesome
This is actually a good way to do budget drag racing. I bet if you ran a mixture of methonal/nitromethane it would do 70mph easy. Colder fuels would help alot, like methonal. Imagine going to the track making a pass then yanking heads and replacing the pistons.. be cool if you could make a rod strong enough to hold for one pass also
3D printed Sprocket… See how long that lasts.
3d rims :)
@@reggiexp69 I'm down but I'd need a filament sponsor for that lol
@@Steve-sxsblogparts i could be a fun video
yeah the material for 3d print aint cheap
@@Steve-sxsblogparts like I said earlier, 3d print a piston and then sand cast it with aluminum cans. A little lathe work, and see how long it lasts.
Next thought. Cheap quad challenge but anything broken must be replaced by the 3d printer lol
You need to try with I high temp fillament ( pek, or peek) I bet they last a lot longer
lol that carbon fiber piston and the fact that the wheeler ran for 1:22 is one of the coolest things I’ve seen out of an ATV 😂 Great job Steve
I know I don’t wanna hear anything about cheap pistons anymore 😂😂
That's goddamned amazing that it actually started much less ran for a short bit.. It's nuts that a plastic piston would work, but insane that a 3D printed one does, with layer separation issues being a nature of the manufacturing process and all.
With PAHT-CF it should have run even longer. 194c temperature resistance instead of 100c and PC gets weaker with added CF on high temps.
Being a fellow 3d printer owner that lasted far longer than I expected. Makes me want to try these harder filaments now lol. 3d printed parts for the udr lol.
This was so cool and funny at the same time that I subscribed! Looking forward to more crazy stuff from you guys!
It’s like life has been breathed back into the channels. Love to see it
This is such a nice experiment you are doing, I think every technician who works with combustion engines is interested in the result, but does not have the time, tools and possibilities. great job!!
I am aircraft engine technician for KLM.
This is one of my all time favorite videos of yours, please do more experiment videos this is sick! Also, completely blew my mind how long it lasted!
Gotta say this is one of my favorite videos in a long time. So organic and not forced. Just friends having fun in the shop. Please consider more videos just like this. Also more crawler content is happily welcomed.
This is my FIRST time seeing yall's content and it was nothing short of EXCELLENCE. New sub earned. Love the content!
2strokestuffing is a genius
And the nicest, most patient dude on the internet
Amazing you guys! It actually worked. Thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. Cheers! 👏😊
"I wish you guys could smell this cylinder"
quote of the year
-Ooh I can smell the piston!
Is never a good phrase to hear
This is an awesome test of the pc carbon fiber, performed better than I expected!
That was truly awesome to see. I like 3d printing myself and if you got the imagination and determination you can attempt to do so much.
Keep more 3D printed experiments coming!
ok i like this content
That was amazing! Great work guys!
Great video gentlemen. Worth every moment of time.
Thats the best that polaris has ever ran lmao
This, boys. This is it. Your pivot- your direction
Man this had to be 1 of the wildest & craziest ideas I have ever seen...good work fellas. Loved the video. I will be subscribing.
well in the 80's Honda had made race parts by using plastic parts coated in metal ceramics coatings
if you could add something similar, you probably have piston that could last a decent amount of time
there are also 3d filaments that post printing the item goes into an oven of sorts to burn off the carrige plastic and fuse the sintering materials
Really wishing you guys tons of success. Yall are such a genuine group of dudes and it would be awesome to see you guys thrive after all the bullshit lately.
I had an evil thought 😂 if you have a junk engine, just print a new piston and sell it fast 🤣
That would be more expensive and time consuming than throwing in a normal aluminum piston
@@taylorfielding5090 oh I know, it was a joke
people have made wooden pistons for that reason in the past!
Now is the best time to delete this nonsense
someone is going to take this and keep improving to it work's same or better. you have provided the prof of concept that is has the potential
Just got my Qidi x Max 3 printer about 3 weeks ago. So far, loving it. Just need to dial in the settings for different types of filament.
3D printed muffler up next 😂
I’m really impressed we’re doing something out of composite/plastic!!!! f****** COOL! 🤙
That was awesome guys was worth all those hours working on it thanks and keep it coming lads
When you weighed it I was hoping you'd get the crank shaved for balance but I guess it'll handle it long enough to have a laugh... holy... you're kidding... THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!
3d printed chain 😂
run it on methanol
That's a good idea!
I have some ideas to make this more robust:
1. Cerakote the piston top to keep heat out of the plastic
2. Make your own Nylon or other high temp plastic filament with graphene homogenised into the filament, this will substantially increase strength and thermal conductivity.
3. Redesign the piston with cooling galleries where the oil squirters hit like Porsche’s metal 3D printed piston has
4. Use planar 3D slicing for a stronger print, more of it will be continuous lengths of extrusion.
Wow, that was truly amazing, I am literally amazed right now... I expected maybe a few pings or a second or two of rough idle at best, but seeing it go at full power is absolutely crazy!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
God bless American idiots
I think that y'all should try the carbon fiber piston again but only with a steel plate on top, pretty much design a rebuildable piston with 4 machine screws in the top going down into the piston. I also believe that if you used Teflon to coat the piston, it might help with heat resistance.
This is so fkn cool... well done, Steve! 🤘🏾
This was possibly the best TH-cam video I’ve ever seen you guys are awesome. I gotta try that with my 3-D printer only I’m gonna make an intake manifold for my Porsche.
Holy Crap! That was awesome! First thing that comes to mind is that Integza has a 3D printer that will print ceramic-infused parts... I can't remember if it's resin bath or filament, but either way, he's actually 3D printed rocket nozzles with it. I would think that would be a helluva starting place for possibly 3D printing carbon fiber-infused ceramic pistons!!! I smell a collab... :D
as a 3d printer myself, this was great to see, subscribed =)
Awesome project guys. Love the new Qidi printers
great vid, 2stroke stuffing is a top bloke as well
5 Jahre und es wird nur so gemacht!
Mega geiles Video!!!
These guys are way on it ..! 🤨👍🏻
All the info will add up..eventually .
I am amazed that you guys got that far before it ceased very cool video 👍🏼👍🏼
We had one of those quads years ago, had a blast on it!
This did way better than I would habe expected.
From my experience with FDM printer, it could be a good idea to add a thin layer of resin to make sure it is sealed and it might also make it last longer as well. Great video
No bad language. I'm impressed !!
Very cool experiment guys. Fun to watch. 👌
Ha thats Awesome dude!!! Now print one in metal? Great job!!! It did run a bit longer than i would have thought!!! When can i order one for my ktm 125 sx from 2005? :)
I saw a guy 3D print gaskets from TPU. Great test. Thanks for sharing.
Hi great work 👍, I put air conditioner pump rings in a Honda h100 two stroke bike ,it worked for about 30 minutes. You never know if you don't have a go,cheers guys
That was hilarious! Great content!! 😂
Love this stuff wicked!
i figured it would run for about 5 seconds. Impressive!!!!
In 1969 I got a 57' Harley Hummer and I wanted more power. My father worked swing shift at McDonnell Douglas Aerospace and worked with early composites. He took the cylinder head to work a filled almost 50% of the head with an Ablative Epoxy (Heat shield compound exactly the same as all the Mercury space capsules). It worked, but not long, after all its job was to slowly melt shedding excess heat. Dad liked experimenting ❤
Keep putting 3D printed parts where they shouldn’t & maybe you’ll find somewhere they should! Love the vid
That earned you a sub and a like, hell we'll toss in a comment too! Awesome Vid, AND project! 👍
You should print another and put a metal plate on top with some thermal paste in between to see if it can last longer this was trully amazing!
Enjoyed this immensely, fellas pissing around😂 cant beat it
Epic! That was sooo coool.
The solution is clear as day, on the banner on the wall!!! N O S !!! 3D Piston with NOS! Is there a coating process that can be done on the top of the piston? I'm blowing a $1,000,000 budget just in thoughts lol...
Love to see you try with basf ultrafuse. You've done the CAD work might as well try sintered metal.
Should try nitromethane is cooler burning and has cooling effect too !
May dislove the plastic, But Worth the try !!!
Good Job
Looks like carbon fiber rods would work fine in an ATV. I think I heard some car company was going to try that
17:54 Certified “hell yeah moment”
Well done, great experiment!!!
Maybe the piston would last longer in a 4-stroke! Please try this out! Great work! Respect!!!
Such a great video 👍🏻 I was wondering about this 😂
yea 2 strokes hate the skirts wiggling around. i wonder what the clearance was at the end haha. thicker ring lands and an extra ring would help. it looks like it would run a little more had the plug not gotten fouled with plastic! ring would smash and get blown out maybe
Friggin lived this one boys starting to feel like home again
Heh Heh, I certainly did not think it would last more than 5 - 10 seconds! Great job!
That legit just got y’all a follow from me! Bro has skills with that 3d printer! So hear me out though, what about a 3d printed turbo?! I just know he can pull that off🙌. Great job fellas
If you have to change the CAD model to get the actual dimensions you want, you need to tune/calibrate the printer and the slicer… try Orca Slicer, check E steps for your XYZ movements, and extruder, adjust flow, etc etc. there’s several walkthroughs like on tech tips for this.
That was pretty epic!!!
HELL YEAH BROTHER !!!!!😂😂😂😂😂👌😄👍
Now just need to figure out what else could be added to the fiber OR 🤔 PERHAPS also to the piston top to withstand the heat better. I 😅think you have a possibility of a new piston form .... just need to tweak it. 👌😉👍
2strokestuffing is an AMAZING engineering channel. His workman ship and experiments are amazing to watch. He is working on building the worlds strongest 50cc 2stroke engine. At one point it was supercharged and another time running almost 20HP!
You guys seem unpretentious and pretty chill for YTers. Rare these days
fun video, thanks, and i watch 2strokestuffing too.
Several things that would probably help:
Use PEEK or EXTEM AMHH811F filament.
Mixing the gas at about 16:1 ratio.
Move the top ring down at least 4-5 mm, (keep 2 rings).
Flatten the top of the piston some to reduce compression.
Limit rpm to 4,000 or so.
Try metal coating piston electroplate. Lube wrist pin, side of piston? Change oil mix? Try rod and crank carbon fiber, electroplated and use regular bearings?