Indonesia is PROOF that Car Culture is GLOBAL and truly limitless | Capturing Car Culture
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2024
- Larry Chen travels to Indonesia to investigate what the car culture is like and finds some incredible builds and a thriving hobby. All of which they do with import restrictions and limited access to parts and tools.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:43 Pagani & GT-R
1:50 First Impression
3:00 Driving Shots
3:42 Drift Track (Downtown)
4:12 Larry Drifts
5:25 Local Tuning Scene
6:26 Meet Victor
8:22 R35 GT-R Trophy Truck
8:57 Import issues & Limited Parts
12:25 How Victor got into Cars
13:57 Engine Plus
15:15 Background
16:05 Collection
18:17 Struggle of owning cars in Indonesia
19:02 Craziest Builds
20:30 500HP Honda Civic EG & Toyota Starlet
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"this is not your first time drifting right?"
-cuts to Larry absolutely rippin 😂😂
Legit, this guy had no idea 😅
SRI LANKAAAA.
basically the same as indonesia but with 400% tax on cars. but some insanely cool builds, not high HP but plenty of starlet GTs, Toyota Glanzas, Subarus, Evos, classic cars, etc. You wont regret it.
@@Mrkickass1995 you guys still have better car culture than India. lots of JDM right there in Sri Lanka
In a Nissan while sporting the King Motorsports balaclava around his neck, true JDM fan right there!
@@kotarojujo2737 I can't comment cause I haven't been to India. But I'll take your word for it 👍🏽
Don't forget that:
1. The Pagani Huayra costs the owner aprox. US$10 million because of luxury good sales tax paid to the central government; and
2. US$30k/year for road tax paid to the local government (in this case the Huayra is registered to the Jakarta provincial government).
It’s a Zonda. The guy made a mistake.
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl that is not a Zonda brev
I'm from Singapore and there's alot of indo guy keep their car in SG and it's not regular car tho, there's a Zonda kiryu and few of F40 own by indo guy, if i'm not wrong there's a few indo own too in Malaysia, reventon, fxxk, and 599xx
Rp.328juta pertahun. $22k a year just fort tax
@@adreardaIya memang benar, tapi secara psikis... psychologically, kita masih melihat 1 USD = Rp10.000
Indonesia is an amazing country with the best people! The car culture is legendary even though all cars are 3-5x the price. Can’t wait to go back!
crazy taxes, small minimum wages, and still every capital provinces in Indonesia always have traffic jam packed with new cars. imagine if the tax is cheap and the minimum wages is expensive😢
@@mcbchannel7173 the unfortunate truth is there is a lot of classism and most of the super wealthy are Chindos 🇨🇳🇮🇩 but the positive side to Indonesia is there is ALOT of people to sell too so it is a great place to be a entrepreneur 🙏🏼
@@derrickjoness if you know chindos term, you have going deeper 🤣
i know right, even an ugly ass regular traffic mpv cost like $25k usd💀
@@derrickjonessa lot of it because the natives are lazier while the chindos are more industrious entrepreneurial. wealthy natives often get their money from corruption.
"You know it's difficult to find this part as the things are illegal"
Nah, we built it ourself
what a madlad! 😂
He said that with no effort
Which country should we travel to next to explore car culture?
Australia
Thailand, you must go there larry
I m in metro Detroit. A visit to the Motor City would be epic!
Singapore maybe,, someone in there had some Pagani and Koenigsegg,,😁
Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia
Didn't know Indonesia had a mad car scene.. Glad there was an NSX present.
we do, its not like the classic muscles of USA kinda car scene, but we're rich with JDM culture. the USDM culture never really took off because they're still crazy expensive, does not come with a right hand drive version and also old parts were impossible to source making US classic muscles a super rare sight
@@nitsu2947 You forgot something, though: Holden sold cars with US muscle platforms all throughout the 70s and 80s in Indonesia. A lot of enthusiasts would buy these old Holden units and import the appropriate accessories to turn their unit into a proper US muscle (like a Holden Monaro being modified into a Chevrolet Nova for example). USDM culture definitely exists, but it's really fringe and hidden from mainstream eyes.
@@standard-carrier-wo-chan yeah, i also forgot there used to be a Holden WB near my place, and yes the US classic Muscle scene is quite fringe and super rare.
🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@nitsu2947 there's alot muscle car back in 60,70,and 80s. My grandfather own a 4door impala back in the 70s and he used it as Bandung-Jakarta Taxi or we called it "mobil travel" and there's many muscle car community amongst the taxi driver. In the 90s most travel agent upgraded their fleet with better cars and many taxi drivers started to scrap their old muscle car and sold it on "gerung-gerung" auto event or auction. the gerung2 auto event ended in the late 2000s where muscle cars (us/australian) are already a collector item. Now you only see muscle cars as rich people collector item but not back then where the middle class or taxi driver used it as daily and taxi car. Here where i live many expats drove a LHD cabriolet 60s Impala as their daily and rare jdm cars (THEY'RE very cheap) due to less importation restrictions (FTZ)
Indonesians are levels sneaker culture, clothing, watches cars you name it. If they into any of it they in it in a big way. Amazing place and some of the kindest and humble people you are likely to meet.
3:49 Believe it or not J99XAR Drift Circuit used to be a part of real street circuit.
It's called Lippo Village International Formula Circuit. It was built in late 2000s to host A1GP (remember those?).
Unfortunately the track failed it's certification (or depends on who you ask, there are some theories) and they never held race beside one off Indonesian touring car championship.
Most of the track has been redeveloped but part of the drift circuit, especially the chicane in the island is an actual part of the circuit. Another leftover of the circuit is paddock area that you can see after you exit the highway that is now used for local university.
17:03 This is actually Toyota Corolla AE101 Super Touring car built by TRD Technocraft.
This car was former works Toyota Team Indonesia (TTI) cars to compete at Southeast Asia Touring Car Championship back in the 90s.
TTI itself imported two cars and Engine+ car is the only complete and running car in Indonesia at the moment. If I'm not mistaken, TRD only made 4 of these in total.
It was raced in Indonesia up to early 2010s and this car actually have a lap time at Sentul faster than early gen Huracan Super Trofeo. Supposedly because it has a suspension that is tuned specifically for Sentul circuit (especially since the car rarely raced abroad so they can just stick with one setup).
Luckas is an incredible guy, always humble and kind. What makes him and his shop different is that he didn't just built cars, but he also created parts in house with huge standard that is rarely seen in Indonesia.
Selamat datang Mbah Ifan, your knowledgeable comments, whereever it is... deserve a lot of attention.
I knew you'll be here and talk about that Corolla, Mbah!
Yes it's turn 8
That Mi-goreng engine cover goes hard as hell imo.
Thank you for exposing our automotive culture to the world. The reason why we can't import used car is, because people will import used cars from Singapore (due to their regulation as well) and it kinda kills the local automotive industry.
But one interesting thing that differentiates us from Malaysia and Singapore, budget car enthusiast uses German cars such as the E36, W202, E39 or E46 due to the large engine displacement. With local assembled Japanese cars, you would only get the low/economy engine option, and you'll need to import engines.. Which end up you spending way more than playing with Mercs and BMWs.
So yes, you'll see rich enthusiasts driving a S14 Silvia or 240SX, while you'll see budget drivers driving E46 325i.😅
Anything 4 door actually, E36 atau E46 tetap mahal mah kalau Coupe atau Wagon. But your point still stands.👍🏻
Not to mention there's "one guy" from Batam that able to send FTZ(read: Singapore) cars outside Riau islands. Things getting cheaper but still paperless nonetheless.
even then now 4 door e36s price already rised up. We peasants simply can't enjoy cars in Indonesia lol.
@@kotarojujo2737 if you're into German cars but do not wish to use them for motosport, buy an E39, still way much more value buy than e36 right now.
It kills local industry yet the lineup is awful
@@abdullahisdanul107 not quite one guy tho, i lived in batam and met soooooo many "guys" who sent their FTZ cars outside batam
When I watched this video, I truly realized that the culture in Indonesia is incredibly fascinating when it is covered by non-Indonesians. I often watch videos about cars in Indonesia, but when it's narrated by others, it truly feels like it's that impressive. kudos to you, kudos to all Indonesian petrolhead.
Oh, don't forget to also check out the custom motorcycles culture in Indonesia, haha.
gak usah di tanya kalo motor pun semua udah tau cuma mobil ini yang jarang
kalo orang indo yg bikin video kaya berasa bukan domentary jadi kaya boasting banyak duit...
I have seen the DnD Indonesia video.
Dude... Victor truly inspires me to wanna take a chance and start (or join) a business working on cars. I'm also a mechanical engineer, and I have a passion for cars, but that inner fear of failure and judgement from others keeps me from taking that leap of faith. Even I ask myself, why would I leave my comfy salary job with benefits, to go work on cars that probably won't pay as much and might not have all the benefits that I currently have? Maybe one day, but I have to think about my family and make sure I can provide a good life for them today and secure a good future for my daughter.
do not hesitate, opportunity does'nt come so often
If a desire has been placed inside your heart, it’s there for a reason. Right now, it seems like you’re reasoning yourself out of that reason. How much would you regret not giving it a shot when you’re in your 90s?
Hmmm, if everything is going fine and you've got a family to take care of, I'd say it's best to stick with your current job.
But maybe you're able to save up and work on a private project car, as a mini version of that, hit up the local scene and stuff.
YOU GOT NOTHIN TO LOSE
-People in the west: Oh no! $20-30k markups on the GT-R...
-SEA/Indonesia: Hold my $550k+ Nismo GT-R 🗿
(Don't even try to ask how much is the Pagani)
the Huayra,, maybe like $ 10 Million in Here (Indonesia)😂😂( *not markup price,, just on paper and (alot) TAX😂😂)
@@rianrahmanto8069 right??? it's basically a walking mansion LOL
@@average_dipshit it's something called "Luxury TAX" here😂😂 it's up to 125% of Vehicle Price,,
Yes,, that 125% just for the tax, so basicly the Taxes are more expensive than The "Things" that you Buy 🤦♂️😂
@@rianrahmanto8069 not include under the hand paid 🥲 but Rich and wealthy people here in Indonesia can buy and afford this 😂😂😂
@@rianrahmanto8069the owner must be businessman lol
Wow Indonesian car culture is so amazing because of supporting structures and the people,some countries are more in economy but lacks much behind in car culture . Indonesian you guys rock
this is PIK area. rich chigga hood. not all place here like this
This level of car culture is indeed not accessible for most of us (Indonesians). The barrier to entry from the financial side is very high. It's more into the high level lifestyle, rather than a common one. Also the motoring culture here is different, most of us tend to travel with a lot of family members in a single car, which leads car makers to produce and inject reasonably priced MPVs and vans to the local market. However, social media platforms help us to know car cultures from many countries in the world, which keep our dream alive, of one day having one of these cars in our garage and take care of it. Thanks Larry and Hagerty for coming!
and also the reason why sedans are not popular here is because they used to tax sedans as a luxury thing lmao what an ass move from the government
That Pagani is insane! Looks so good!
Yeah because of that Pagani is 1 of 1 in the world,why?that Pagani have a right steer and ofc.the Currota Copper color
American muscle car fan here, absolutely digging the Indonesia car scene.
Wow! Good video! I used to drag raced my 4 barrel Toyota Kijang in Menteng, Jakarta on Saturday night back in early 90's. All I remember my country Indonesia had the highest car tax in the world at that time. Only rich peeps who worked in the government offices, foreign companies or entrepreneurs could afford to own nice cars .
When I moved to US in 2000 I felt so lucky to be able to own several nice cars and rent quite new cars cheaply although I worked as a regular employee in a small company.
Now I'm in JPN for more than 11 years and I find most people prefer tiny cars aka kei cars because of the narrow roads and expensive gas price. Most big engine used cars in JPN are cheaper compare to small ones because of zeikin / yearly tax and shaken / bi-yearly inspection.
Once again, like you mentioned everything about cars in my country Indonesia is waaaay moaaar expensive than other countries
Hagerty is a GEM of a Channel on You Tube. Thank you for yet another awesome video. Very well done! Mr. Chen is a thoughtful man and a great interviewer.
Thank you for watching!
Seriously Hagerty stole our hearts with all these enthusiast content with all the right people like larry and cammisa. What a way to promote a brand
Wow I love how the track is in the middle of the city !
The track located in the neighborhood/suburban area called Tangerang, not in the city
I'm Indonesian .. been living in Jakarta for 12 years, and have never even seen that Pagani here 🤣🤣🤣. That place at the beginning of the video, PIK 2. I only went there once for dinner, and some thieves broke into my Mazda 2 at the parking lot. Never went there ever since 😅... but nevertheless, it's great to see those cars, turns out we do have a nice car culture here. Well done Larry for this video.
That car just arrived early this year and it's not exactly daily driver so that's probably the reason you never saw it.
These Indonesian videos have been amazing. Thank you for sharing the people and places we would probably never get a chance to experience.
You have to come to another city like Surabaya, not only Jakarta. The car culture there is crazy too 😂
Suroboyo ora sepele
KD AND GD POWAA BABY!
My uncle in Surabaya modified his Honda Mobilio
@@kenzielawrence4079 mobilio doesnt exist in other country 😂
yeah there was a viper srts in Surabaya, idk where it is now tho
As Indonesian and car enthusiast, It's so sad that we are having hard time living our hobby. Cars and parts are not really affordable compared to our monthly income.
And the worst thing is, most of the government and other political people live a luxury life, have luxury cars, but I don't think they're enthusiast enough about cars
They dont give a F about car enthusiasts, as long theyre bought a luxury car like maybach, rubicon,or crown.. they just dont give a F
Not until we chopped their he*ds.
We're hopeless & helpless..
😂😂😂
Work with what you have, don't give up! Indonesia really has the talent and youth to make its own car scene.
"for the environment, i hope it works" it didn't work and he proceeded to yeet the tree away 🤣🤣🤣
I'm currently on vacation in Indonesia and I had no idea that there was such a massive car scene this is soooo cool to learn about! This video was super intriguing thank you
As an Indonesian myself if you have exotic car in Indonesia and you can roll everywhere with that car that is 1% club right there 😅
belum liat yg diesel diesel wkwkwkkw
@@RZ-me3reiya ya kita masih pada pake kuda sih ke mana-mana..
@@RZ-me3re yg pake diesel disamakan sama exotic car? Pffft
More like 0.01%
@@DarkViperEU oh really? show the data..
Great to see other cultures from around the world.
It really is fascinating to see that even after all these years, 90's JDM is still the dominant category in Asia.
the EG civic is somehow very highly regarded here in Indonesia, good stock one can easily goes up to well over $23k
The cars he gets to work on 👌💯 Im a Mechanical engineer too that has built a few rallycars 🤙 I had one of those starlets as my second road legal car. 🇮🇪
Fun fact about that Pagani Huayra, it's called the Kurota Copper, only one exist in the entire world, it's a second hand, and it took 6 months for Pagani to develop that copper color
i find it stupid to say one of a kind just due to paint colour as that means i can turn a shitty Toyota into a one of a kind as well XD
my motorbike only one exist in the entire world as it has a sticker and a custom paint job XD
@@sydneyconcerts902 *with right hand. The only kuota copper right hand made
@@sydneyconcerts902 broo, really?
SO GLAD SOMEONE DOING THIS!!! MAD PROPS. Their car culture is so underrated
The Honda culture there is top notch 👍.
we do love honda 😉
Love the dude at 7:49 smoking a cigarette while working. Victor is really amazing though, it shows the power of education. He took a University education and now is supporting dozens of workers and creating a societal level impact (if you include the shipping companies, the parts companies, etc.).
Thank You for coming to indonesia Mr. Larry chen and Hagerty Channel.❤🙏🤝
The shine surfaces on these cars is just mind blowing 😲
Beautiful video as always 👍
DAMNN Indomie engine cover is 🔥🔥
Very cool video! Thanks. I love learning about other countries and their cultures and how it’s related to cars.
drift track in the middle of the city ! what ! indonesia is sick ! 🔥🔥🔥and cars are sick !
That there is a McLaren Senna is impressive
yeah we have 5 of em i think in the country, 2 of em belong to the same person (one being the white one in this vid)
@@floatingaxedrop there's a few Senna in Singapore that own by indo guy, if they bring to Indonesia probably around 8+
@@MazdaMiata-mn4hh people think car taxes in Singapore is crazy but they don’t see how mad Indonesian government while taxing their citizen’s cars. being the top car producer in the southeast asia but give shtton of taxes on car, i know it’s related to crazy traffic jams on every capital in Indonesia but still… we want car equality…. 😢
You can get brand new Porsche 911 in the US for about $200k-$300k, for the same car in Indonesia that would rise to the price of a 918 Spyder or even more. Civic Type R in here are also sold at twice the price of that in the US (setting aside the dealership markup cases there).
If you ask me? I like the SEA car culture WAY better than the USA scene. For the normal guy or rare girl that wants to take part? ITS an amazing experience. The best way I can put it? Its all about the cars.
But it's the people there that make it great.
What is not said openly? Is the freedom you have there. Along with just how open people are.
I know it sounds weird. But if you get a Chance? Take a cheap flight out. Bring your Gear with you or buy it there. And soak up the culture.
Then take time to enjoy the beaches. The great food. And the atmosphere.
Best episode ever, much respect ❤
This is amazing. Thanks to Larry for your humble approach and obvious passion for this culture that you share with us, and thanks to Hagerty for giving us exactly the kind of content we want.
Terimakasih banyak sudah sampai Di Indonesia
Thankyou for coming..
My first car was a used Toyota Starlet, bought in Florida in 1985.
Kudos to the filmmakers for capturing the essence of car culture and reminding us that it knows no limits.
When this show popped up on my social media it blew my mind how clean and well built these cars are.
Very huge thank for coming to Indonesia...
Cant believe Larry hasnt come over to Bangkok and film the Thai scene yet.
Thank you Larry !
This whole series has opened my eyes to something we don't see in the upper midwest... It certainly starts to explains the culture! I know your eye for photos, but to bring this narrative to life, in such a way, is genius! Thanx !
Mantap klo udh masuk hagerty mah lah👍
Iya bang
this is the perfect mix of info + photos - we love you Larry - Hagerty did good here
This video was amazing and refreshing. Made me feel real good about my recent purchase of a 1987 Fairlady 200ZR II. Still waiting for it to leave Japan though.
that evo .. so great seeing other cultures just working with what they have. makes me want to do more with my rio fwd daily project. keep it up
Appreciate that Larry, hopefully you enjoyed the car culture in Indonesia
Thankyou for coming to Indonesia 🇮🇩
indonesia had a big car culture since the past time, but unfortunately the government made it hard so we can't just import cars or parts easily like other countries do. i hope they change the rules so we can go back to glory time just like in the past
that starlet gt turbo is absolute fire kidd machine son 💯💪
Thnx for a great video!
Thank you for show casing and giving exposure to my dear friends over at indonesia, they work incredibly hard and are so humble. They truely set a precedence to the passion of building, maintaining and enjoying automobiles. They love life and channel it into their passion. Im just sad I missed out on this trip 😅
Bandung car culture is a mad world too, a lot of them are great grandpa exotic cars, you might see some light tank there.
After any exhaust or motor mod I’ve always had someone else drive the vehicle to hear it down the block at wot!! respect to that pagani owner!
I really enjoy all the vids! Hagerty everything has been great
Finally... We're on the MAP!! Thank you so much!
I've learned lots of knowledges of how to built proper cars few years ago from both Victor & Luckas....I had 2 datsuns for track back in the days, and one of them was the 510 that had the 6-points seamless rollcage installed under the OEM car ceiling unremoved crafted by XS (most people said that it's the only race car with the ceiling fabric installed above the rollcage here in Indonesia)....And the 510 was the only retro race car using the original NA Nissan L16 engine with no stroke-up that could beat 4ag's & still road-legal ;)
I absolutely love the car scene there! I love it here in Malaysia too!
Thanks for visiting 🇮🇩
Another sick Larry Chen video keep them coming
Thank yoy Larry for bringing the engine+ workshop and starlet GT. That is real pocket rocket for car! The classic with color and the looks!! Wicked!!
Yes nuff respect to Larry and hagerty for filming a Starlet GT! wish he got to see the 89 -91 version
Hagerty: Larry, what did you see when you visit an Indonesian car shop there?
Larry: umm...some Jeeps with an Evo, Supra, and Nissan GTR R35 engine in it.
😁
Wow. Hagerty in my country.
coolest sit i've seen all day
My gf lives in Semarang. Indonesia. Not intereste in niche drift racing but it is nice to see some hopped up cars.
Thank you!
Earned yourself a new sub. Glad the algorithm brought me here. Did not disappoint.
Respect.
*Check out Larry rocking that RTR "Fun Haver" team shirt!* 💪😎
Love indonesia ❤❤
i recently employed at xs automotive as a photographer. great workplace, great guys, great cars. still having a "hard" time every time i see these cars. if you guys ever want to come here again, be sure to take jason with you pls!
Larry Chen in PIK is something I didn’t expect to see today
Waww hagerty with the godly editing videos come to my country Indonesia, thx u
as an Indonesian I'm happy that you covered my country. car culture here is very small and whenever a meet happens, its like a big event. I have been a lover of all things cars and wish to own these cool JDM's, Exotics, and Race cars but they are all so expensive and I really wish Indonesia will get rid of the dumb import law so that we could at least get a cool car for a reasonable price.
I agree
Wee indo
Awesome video i like this channel. Have a good time all team and members Hagerty group
Man That Starlight is absolutely beautiful
damn. i sure that i didn't skip the video. You guys are are awesome for the story telling and all the b-roll, appreciate that
for an Indonesian i lil bit embarrassed when you tell them about the $350 salary and it's enough. But, it is what it is, right?
That’s a good reality check for anyone who’s taking home $1500. And barely able to live from it.
We should be proud of our government.
😂😂😂
It's so heartbreaking that most of those Indonesian car guys can't have a car.
Yeah. 3 years ago I bought my own car. a 1995 Civic sedan. It's heartbreaking to me that a lot of my friends still can't afford one. I had to work two jobs to get it too...
an e36 318i on minimum wage is a years work
without food, amenities, and everything you need to live taken into account
Actually they are not car guys, but they are mechanics
Epic Video, mantap
Coffee and Larry Chen on Saturday always makes for an entertaining time.
Being a mechanic and not being able to afford a car is kinda heartbreaking. I wonder what the rules are for kit cars. 😢
I've never met a shop mechanic who owns their own car. It's pathetic and really sad.
kit cars are a gigantic grey area last I heard... Depends on what you define as a kit car, though.
@@JolteonRacer like if you fabricate your own frame and chassis, motor installation, etc. basically building a car from scratch.
Airline pilots cannot afford the planes they fly
@@DapperGapper basically impossible to be registered in here you need a vin and engine number
@@DapperGapper for instance your motor was blown you have to swap the engine you have to file paperworks of changing the engine number in the vehicle paperwork and even if you're you have to do it in "certified shop"(atleast back then idk about pesenr ) to swap engine no garage or backyard engine swap
That Beamer during drift practice looks like a GTA car
EDAN COK! di liput Hagerty!
mad respect to Larry Chen!
thank you for visiting Indo ! we don't always have the best of everything, but we make do
The Starlet is a really fun car to drive, even the stock one and the best part is they're cheap enough for middle class to own.
Exactly! They are like budget hot hatches, pretty fuel efficient too! Sadly they've gone up in price recently.
@@3kstra that's the annoying parts. luckily, I'm able to snag one before their price went up lol.
Nusantara (Indonesia, brunei, malaysia) motor sport scene is such a sleeper scene. You don't realize their existence until they get past you
Malaysia not Nusa/island , this peninsula.
Not Malaysia
Thanks for visiting my country! Hope you like it there!
Can't believe hagerty covering my country car culture
I try to have my own car here, with my own money. I bought myself a Civic 3 years ago. It really isn't easy. But i try.