I have a first gen pair and compared them to the 3rd gen and they feel almost identical. The wrist support is lacking in Fly due to that soft style padding used all throughout. I think they could benefit from padding a stiffer foam on the wrist possibly.
Appreciate the vids man. Found your page from another reviewer. You should def have more subscribers and I’m definitely going to throw business your way for the site. Side question for you: I’m looking for decent wrist support, some feedback on the bag, and good knuckle protection. Between the Venum Hammer, Fly X, and Rival Guerrero Sparring, which do you think checks most of those boxes? I use the fortress t1 hand wraps currently. Thanks In advance, keep grinding!
Thank you bro, I appreciate it, I need to link with someone who does videos mine are shit, but I try to keep the content solid. I've never used Venum products, I tried to business with them awhile back, but I guess they're too big time for me idk. If you have wrist issues Fly may not be for you, since they use a soft padding throughout the glove and its easy to bend the wrist, which can be good for some who like to catch and parry. Rival Guerrero may check all those boxes I had a pair of the loma editions a while back and they were cool, I honestly prefer sg-210's over them, but it's all preference at the end of the day.
@@BOXUPNATION appreciate you man! And man you have a great shop and platform. I’m sure someone would jump at a chance to collab and assist with the content. And you’ll get that subscriber base and then Venum will have to rethink that stance lol. If not you don’t need them anyway, you have respected and more popular brands already. Understood on the preference part, it’s always subjective because everyone’s hands and wrist preferences are different. I don’t have wrist issues, just like to have the support there. These will be used mainly on bags and mitts. Not for sparring. I think the fortress handwraps help with that wrist support too. I’m just learning more about phenom. I’ll have to check them out more for sure. I do appreciate the input man. Probably going to order from your site today tbh.
Ik this video is kinda old but Im choosing between the winning lace ups and the fly super lace x. Was set on winning but the fly lowkey changing my mind. Are you able to hit the bag with fly without much knuckle pain? Any help with this dilema would be great haha. Great review!
I think it depends on how severe your knuckle pain is (try using skulltec or bandax), but I don’t experience any knuckle pain hitting the bag, I think the fly padding is really soft and disperses impact fairly well. You get more padding with winning & May have more protection on the bag.
I have quite abit of Winnings and the only complaint i have and maybe because i have small Asian hands is the 16's kinda of rub on my second knuckle digits. I also have 12's, 10's and 8's and non of them feel that way. Probably sell of the 16's as i only used them like once and never went thru a full workout with them as i switched them off, i own quite a few others that i can use inbetween.
Hey bro, I'm from South Africa and I want to buy the skulltec knuckle guards, but I fear that the package will be lost in shipping. Have you guys shipped to South Africa before?
We’ve shipped internationally, but not to South Africa yet. I do believe you can have the package insured and signed for to help prevent any loss or theft.
The premium leather version you can open the handeasier than any other glove i ever owned or wore before, but my xline is a little different in that regard.
@@BOXUPNATION i am 5'7 152lbs i have 16oz powerlocks that fit perfect,14oz powerlocks that are too tight and 18 oz powerlocks that are fine as well with extra room and 14oz reyes that fit fine. And im in the middle of getting either 14 or 16oz phenom but am worried that 14 oz will be too tight on the hands or that 16oz will be too big
I bought some fly superlace x i used them about 5 times and the lining teared off where my fingers are(index and middle). I barley had time to break them in since they are super stiff at the beginning. I also felt like there was an excess of lining when i first put them on. My hand was moving in the gloves because of that excess. I hated how the thumb was curved. I hit my thumb alot because of the weird placement. For the few rounds i used them Impact protection was good, wrist protection was good. I like how the weight was distributed but In my opinion fly is overrated and i wouldnt recommand.
Did you buy them from Fly or us? If you got them from us send us an email and order number, if it’s within reason we can help you out. If you got them from Fly I’d reach out to them direct.
@@BOXUPNATION i bought from another store. I did send a message to the store and they contacted fly. I just felt disappointed by fly made me feel off about the brand. Ive actually ordered a pair of phenom from you. I should get them soon and cant wait to try them.
@@malwedda well Phenom is a good bang for buck, the Fly is a good glove which is a good way to get the Fly experience without shelling out 400+ bucks. Both have pros and cons like I highlighted in the video, you just have tho choose what you think aligns more with your style of glove.
Hello, which one has better punch feedback of bagwork sg210 or Fly Xs? And in terms of all around boxing workouts like sparring and bagwork which one would you recommend, I read many and only positive feedbacks and comments about the Phenoms, should I really spent the extra money about Flys, I want to buy really quality top notch glove, tbh I want a pair of Winnings but the price is issue for the moment, hopefully the next pair :D
I think better feedback for Fly, I think Fly is really great sparring glove. I use my Superlace for everything. I think Phenom is a great all around glove with more wrist protection.
@@BOXUPNATION I know Flys are well known for better quality but is it really way way better than the Phenoms, does it really worth it spending the extra cash or not so significant difference cuz I watched all videos in youtube and only great feedbacks about the Phenoms, right now I use Rival Rs80v
@@radoslavkostadinov2261 I think the Superlace are the Superlace X are about the same as phenom. Both solid gloves, if you like super soft go with fly if you like more protective phenom
@@BOXUPNATIONreal quick do the winning gloves have better wrist protection than the phenom sg210? Because I love my phenoms but I’ve been thinking if I should buy some winning but I’m not sure
Neither. I think the Fly liner wicks moisture quicker. Easy fix is to sue them out, put in cedar, dryer sheets, wash the laces, and or wash your wraps.
@@liamsmithstinks1470 of course thank you for commenting. I think if it's solely a sparring glove Fly is nice, Phenom I think is a good overall trainer.
Are the gloves in the vid the same weight? phenoms look bigger here and im not sure which of these to get as I have small-ish hands but need 16 oz to spar... thanks for the reviews just subscribed.
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This 3rd generation Fly feels cheap no wrist support non. Phenom sg-210 feel way better nice snug fit good wrist support. I say go for phenom.
I have a first gen pair and compared them to the 3rd gen and they feel almost identical. The wrist support is lacking in Fly due to that soft style padding used all throughout. I think they could benefit from padding a stiffer foam on the wrist possibly.
Been trying to find a glove that has similar ergonomics of the Rival Rs1 but with firmer foam. Reviews pointing me to the Phenoms 200 but not sure.
The burgundy Phenom looks great. Fly looks better but is not leather . Padding is softer . Phenom's padding will probably take more abuse .
Great points I forgot to mention the leather thing in the video
Appreciate the vids man. Found your page from another reviewer. You should def have more subscribers and I’m definitely going to throw business your way for the site.
Side question for you: I’m looking for decent wrist support, some feedback on the bag, and good knuckle protection. Between the Venum Hammer, Fly X, and Rival Guerrero Sparring, which do you think checks most of those boxes? I use the fortress t1 hand wraps currently. Thanks In advance, keep grinding!
Thank you bro, I appreciate it, I need to link with someone who does videos mine are shit, but I try to keep the content solid. I've never used Venum products, I tried to business with them awhile back, but I guess they're too big time for me idk. If you have wrist issues Fly may not be for you, since they use a soft padding throughout the glove and its easy to bend the wrist, which can be good for some who like to catch and parry. Rival Guerrero may check all those boxes I had a pair of the loma editions a while back and they were cool, I honestly prefer sg-210's over them, but it's all preference at the end of the day.
@@BOXUPNATION appreciate you man! And man you have a great shop and platform. I’m sure someone would jump at a chance to collab and assist with the content. And you’ll get that subscriber base and then Venum will have to rethink that stance lol. If not you don’t need them anyway, you have respected and more popular brands already.
Understood on the preference part, it’s always subjective because everyone’s hands and wrist preferences are different. I don’t have wrist issues, just like to have the support there. These will be used mainly on bags and mitts. Not for sparring. I think the fortress handwraps help with that wrist support too. I’m just learning more about phenom. I’ll have to check them out more for sure. I do appreciate the input man. Probably going to order from your site today tbh.
which ones are softer?
Ik this video is kinda old but Im choosing between the winning lace ups and the fly super lace x. Was set on winning but the fly lowkey changing my mind. Are you able to hit the bag with fly without much knuckle pain? Any help with this dilema would be great haha. Great review!
I think it depends on how severe your knuckle pain is (try using skulltec or bandax), but I don’t experience any knuckle pain hitting the bag, I think the fly padding is really soft and disperses impact fairly well. You get more padding with winning & May have more protection on the bag.
I have quite abit of Winnings and the only complaint i have and maybe because i have small Asian hands is the 16's kinda of rub on my second knuckle digits. I also have 12's, 10's and 8's and non of them feel that way. Probably sell of the 16's as i only used them like once and never went thru a full workout with them as i switched them off, i own quite a few others that i can use inbetween.
Hey bro, I'm from South Africa and I want to buy the skulltec knuckle guards, but I fear that the package will be lost in shipping. Have you guys shipped to South Africa before?
We’ve shipped internationally, but not to South Africa yet. I do believe you can have the package insured and signed for to help prevent any loss or theft.
@@BOXUPNATION I have the option to buy it online though???
@@keenan1637 yes.
@@BOXUPNATION so that means you guys ship to South Africa right?
So I can purchase this online now if i want to?
@@keenan1637 yup.
Any idea when you will restock Phenom SG-210 lace-ups in sangria color?
Have a shipment on the way, so hopefully this week.
The premium leather version you can open the handeasier than any other glove i ever owned or wore before, but my xline is a little different in that regard.
I agree
Great comparison, thanks.
Thank you 🙏🏽
is there much difference in the hand compartment of the sg210 in 14 vs 16oz?
Yes, 14oz feel smaller especially around the cuff. The hand compartment for me feels less roomy as opposed to the 16.
@@BOXUPNATION i am 5'7 152lbs i have 16oz powerlocks that fit perfect,14oz powerlocks that are too tight and 18 oz powerlocks that are fine as well with extra room and 14oz reyes that fit fine. And im in the middle of getting either 14 or 16oz phenom but am worried that 14 oz will be too tight on the hands or that 16oz will be too big
@@jaysboxingchannel6233 16oz if you plan to spar in them 14oz if training, either way we do free exchanges so you’re in the clear
I bought some fly superlace x i used them about 5 times and the lining teared off where my fingers are(index and middle). I barley had time to break them in since they are super stiff at the beginning. I also felt like there was an excess of lining when i first put them on. My hand was moving in the gloves because of that excess. I hated how the thumb was curved. I hit my thumb alot because of the weird placement. For the few rounds i used them Impact protection was good, wrist protection was good. I like how the weight was distributed but In my opinion fly is overrated and i wouldnt recommand.
Did you buy them from Fly or us? If you got them from us send us an email and order number, if it’s within reason we can help you out. If you got them from Fly I’d reach out to them direct.
@@BOXUPNATION i bought from another store. I did send a message to the store and they contacted fly. I just felt disappointed by fly made me feel off about the brand. Ive actually ordered a pair of phenom from you. I should get them soon and cant wait to try them.
Do you think the Fly leather gloves are better? And are they comparable with winning?
Yup, and depends on what you like tbh. I know ppl who like winning some who like fly and some who don’t like either.
Thanks a lot man. Between these two, you recommendation is phenom?
@@malwedda well Phenom is a good bang for buck, the Fly is a good glove which is a good way to get the Fly experience without shelling out 400+ bucks. Both have pros and cons like I highlighted in the video, you just have tho choose what you think aligns more with your style of glove.
Thanks a lot for the replies. Appreciate it!
Is the Phenom hand compartment looser or more snug than Winning ?
I’d say more snug
@@BOXUPNATION is the fly wraith x sizing the same as the winning cps 500 or does it run large
@@JG8083 they’re similar but I’d say winning might be slightly smaller
love ur content bro!! what do you think is the smallest / slimmest 16 oz glove ?
Thanks bro, Idk about smallest; however, the slimmest to me are between Fly, 1v1, Salvador HF, powerlock 2, And adi speed are pretty snug.
@@BOXUPNATION just customized and copped the salvador’s 🤙🏻 thnx for help bro
@@ezramarquez024 Thank you Ezra I appreciate your support
Way late but in case anyone is looking for a slim 16 oz glove, check out the sabas Bella series
The knuckle protection with fly is outstanding. Better than Winning in my opinion.
It’s crazy how soft they are, yet how protective they are. Sold my winnings and never looked back.
Hello, which one has better punch feedback of bagwork sg210 or Fly Xs? And in terms of all around boxing workouts like sparring and bagwork which one would you recommend, I read many and only positive feedbacks and comments about the Phenoms, should I really spent the extra money about Flys, I want to buy really quality top notch glove, tbh I want a pair of Winnings but the price is issue for the moment, hopefully the next pair :D
I think better feedback for Fly, I think Fly is really great sparring glove. I use my Superlace for everything. I think Phenom is a great all around glove with more wrist protection.
@@BOXUPNATION I know Flys are well known for better quality but is it really way way better than the Phenoms, does it really worth it spending the extra cash or not so significant difference cuz I watched all videos in youtube and only great feedbacks about the Phenoms, right now I use Rival Rs80v
@@radoslavkostadinov2261 I think the Superlace are the Superlace X are about the same as phenom. Both solid gloves, if you like super soft go with fly if you like more protective phenom
@@BOXUPNATION Thank you!
@@BOXUPNATIONreal quick do the winning gloves have better wrist protection than the phenom sg210? Because I love my phenoms but I’ve been thinking if I should buy some winning but I’m not sure
Anyone get saw hands in the fly's or is it just me? Maybe not broken in properly
is it true that those fly gloves dont got good wrist support and they are like really flabby and soft and easy to twist???
oh nvm lmao i just heard you speak on that...
which one stink the most?
Neither. I think the Fly liner wicks moisture quicker. Easy fix is to sue them out, put in cedar, dryer sheets, wash the laces, and or wash your wraps.
@@BOXUPNATION thank you for the information. i hate stinky gloves.
What would you recommend out the 2?
Depends on what you like in a glove. Overall trainer Phenom's would be good for most, Fly is an excellent glove.
@@BOXUPNATION oh okay I’ll have to see thanks for the reply
@@liamsmithstinks1470 of course thank you for commenting. I think if it's solely a sparring glove Fly is nice, Phenom I think is a good overall trainer.
What oz are your flys?
Can’t remember it’s been a minute, since I did the video. More then likely 14 or 16
@@BOXUPNATION okay no problem thank you for the fast reply!
Are the gloves in the vid the same weight? phenoms look bigger here and im not sure which of these to get as I have small-ish hands but need 16 oz to spar... thanks for the reviews just subscribed.
Not sure what you mean, the gloves in the video are 16’s
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haha I wish that was a thing on my channel
@@BOXUPNATION loloo