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LG G1 C1 OLED Game Optimizer Boost Setting, It Does More Than You Know
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2021
- I have been investigating what all effects are caused by the boost input delay setting. Aside from its main effect (around 10ms input lag at 60Hz) it also effects your shadow detail and overall brightness. But there is a catch!
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Excellent video. Learning a lot. Still having a great time with my 83 C1. This makes it even better. Subscribed 👍💯
And I feel like I just upgrade to G1 "panel" from C1. Thank You for sharing this. And Yes.. brightness increase is easy noticable. It help in clouds and sun, to get more depth. Wonderfully..
Nice man good find I find the LG c1 is a little dark playing gears 5 couldn't see muffin in dark areas
I’m getting this tv. I can’t wait to get it. I love my cx and this is supposed to be better than that.
Bro if you love your cx stay with
@@jamesmorgan7229 I still love my cx but getting c1 or C2 as my gaming pc monitor.
@@AlteredVisionTV aa oke. Go for the c2 maybe theres gonna be an 42 inch version
@@jamesmorgan7229 that’s what I’m waiting to find out.
Nice vid man, ill try it on mi 55 inch C1, currently im trying to get my tv as bright as posible, im coming from a qled and its taking time to get used to it, any settings that you would recommend for this?, I dont really care about color accuracy I just want to get a punchy image.
just punch the center of your screen
You not gonna get it from this tv man maybe c2
Theyre basically the same lol
Just realized I mixed up the date for Thursday, stream will be on Thursday the 15th.
Thank you for this, I wish more people payed this much (due) attention to these things! It's a >$1000 display, I don't want it to look fone & good enough. I want it to look the best it can and for that it has to adhere to standards as closely as possible. I don't want no black crush or oversaturated colours on a $300 monitor, let alone a thing like this.
Wish you had done the measurements for SDR mode as well. There's a lot of games that don't support HDR still.
I knew something was off with these settings lol I been playing around with them also which led me here. Thanks for the info and like you said if your playing at 60fps you don't need VRR or amd free cync, g cync enabled especially on an LG C1 or G1.
Thanks for the video! Not sure if it’s applicable for the c1 but great video and find!
Nice video, Classy!
I'm about to get the LG C1 77 inch as it's dropped below $3,000. Not sure if I should wait until after black Friday or just get it now from value electronics. I live in Illinois and I'm able to avoid tax and shipping fees...
Should I turn off Vrr if I'm playing a multiplayer game like battlefield 2042? That game would need Vrr, right?
Great tip
When I select Game Mode and HGiG the game image in HDR becomes very dark, when I turn Dynamic Tone Map "on", the image becomes much clearer, what is the advantage of playing in HGiG?
Nice video! Is this testing done on a G1 or C1? I just got a C1 and I’m wondering what your thoughts are on using Game Optimizer + Boost mode + adjusted screen brightness and white stabiliser, for HDR10 video content? Thanks!
On a G1 but it would be the same as C1.
Would not use it for video content and it wouldn't work for 24/30 FPS movies or TV either
@@ClassyTechCalibrations I recently bought a LG C1 and have been using your suggested settings from AVSForums for HDR gaming and it definitely looks great. I was wondering what you thought about editing the HDMI to PC for the PS5, basically do you think that will improve anything? Reason I ask is because Vincent from HDTV Test suggested it. Anyways, I hope to hear back from you. Also… love the content, especially the LG C1 stuff.
Boost mode really lifts the shadows. C1 is kind of a double-edged sword, do you want some crushed blacks or some overly lifted shadows. Not much of a middle ground.
Get your screen calibrated if you're that worried about it. Calibration will fix the crushed blacks. For me after breaking in the panel for a couple hundred hours the black levels have improved greatly by themselves
@@RyhtymFiend same, after using it more the tv iq has improved, I guess there is just a bit if a warmup period with OLED. My QD oled monitor looked spectacular out of the box though
@@noshow nice. Thanks for the update! Love to hear it. Qd-oled is the superior tech. I'll be waiting a while to purchase one though. Probably a couple years at least.
@@RyhtymFiend I got a C1 for my main tv and the Alienware for my main pc display. They both rock, the Alienware definitely has more color volume and brighter highlights than the C1, but the C1 still looks exceptional. Can't go wrong with either.
When you say "Game Boost" messes with a bunch of stuff (making you lower brightness to 49 and white stabilizer to 9), do you mean the "Boost" setting in the Input Lag menu? Or simply the fact that it's in Game Optimizer mode?
Would you enable the brightness boost in the service Menü?
Which is better, play fps games on 120 fps or 60 fps with boost mode?
So after this, what should I leave optimizer at? Xbox Series X here and brand new C1. I leave everything checked on video on xbx. And defaults on optimizer.
When I am playing games on my PS5 my tv turns off I have a LG G1 I'm a bit stumped🤔 I asked LG they were clueless
A issue you obviously have already thought of but if you set the Xbox to 60hz you lose the bandwidth of 40gbs so basically this should only really be used with ps5 correct? Or I guess pc?
I want to thank you for your great work. I I'd like to suggest you state on each of these videos what firmware version you were running as all findings can be valid on a specific one but not another.
Especially on something like your great findings here.
I own a C1 and I noticed different behavior regarding this and other things you covered in other videos.
Regarding this video for example , using firmware 03.21.10, I can report additional information, using Game Optimiser, not only decreases the brightness but changes the color profile it uses, to a duller one that no other mode uses. I wonder if you encountered this as well?
Thanks!
why is on my dashboard on the lg c1 vrr off?
it should be on playing warzone. ps5 vrr is on
Is labeling the input to PC lessen the input lag if everything else is set the same: game optimizer mode + boost mode for 60fps content. I thought i heard by labeling to PC lowers the lag another 1ms. Thank you in advance
Where and how are you getting all those options in the boost menu?? I have newest update on a C1 and don't have ability to turn on or off Gsync or half of what you so
Did you measure with those settings in pc mode or game mode? Does pc mode make the screen dimmer?
Classy, are you seeing any ads on your own menu on your G1? I'm not sure if it's because I've turned off something or what but my home menu boots up super fast no lag without showing any paid promtional advertising just the main apps and inputs! I loving it but I think it might be a glitch?
I turned off the ads and home screen pop up, and LG logo on turn off.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations okay, so it was a setting. Thanks for the reply.
Nice video and thanks for the tips 😊
Is this tv already calibrated ? Because under white balance everything is set to zero (red green …. )
I’m asking this question because I bought a calibrated Lg c1 from an electric shop with the certificate of calibration but I can’t see any thing or proof of calibration for the tv like I said all green red things are on 0, is it normal ? Thanks for the video again
If the color gamut and white balance controls are greyed out and not adjustable than it is calibrated.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks for the answer I’m going to visit them because nothing is grayed only in Dolby vision on Netflix I got a grayed color gamut but the rest is adjustable
Why i cant set up the settings of game optimizer, its black and cant put amy option
Ps5
To avoid the drawbacks of the game boost does calibrating the tv fix it or would you need to specifically calibrate with game boost on?
Most in depth channel , you make my brain melt
Hey classy I know this is off topic but I've noticed that the TH-cam app on the PS5 play videos at full 4k res but no HDR will the Tv native TH-cam app had HDR but plays videos at 1920x1080x2, is there anyway to get the best of all worlds?
Game optimizer mode dulls the brightness of my entire screen on the C1 and makes everything look washed out, even when I use the same settings as I do for standard picture. Why is this?
Exactly my findings.
Just left a comment describing this above, & what firmware version I saw it on.
All these findings and videos should really be reported with what firmware version was used.
Black and white stabilizer
I'm just stuck on returning the c1 48 inch for the Sony a80j 55 inch I play competitive sometimes but normally I like better clarity and graphics than anything nowadays. Have the xbsx & ps5
I’m thinking about returning my A80J for QN90A mostly because of VRR and brightness in the living room. I played Xbox CoD with VRR at my friend’s CX and now I just can’t stand playing without VRR with my A80J.
@@ElGrueso you think its that bad without the vrr? also did you notice the difference in picture quality?
@@Realmccoy614 I really didn’t see much difference between CX and A80J. The main difference could be the brightness but nothing really makes any huge difference. I was thinking about QN90A mainly because of the vrr, freesync premium and the brightness for the living room. For oled gaming I believe C1 or G1 are the best choices.
Does it work with BFI at 60? That would be very useful because Motion pro dims the screen a lot
So... Game optimizer boost mode on or off for the most accurate picture?
When I play red dead 2 on Xbox x tje game is locked at 30 fps when I look on game Optimizer it says 120 fps is that normal?
Bro. How do you turn low latency on. Cuz game optimizer is on but input lag is off
Yea this feature is stupid. Why don’t we be able to turn on low latency manually. Stupid system I’m frustrated with this shit. I clearly played a game and this stupid TV wont turn on low latency even though I turned on Game Optimizer
@@kevinmuhammadnasution8727 ALLM is on？ then what ？ms？
How can you check on your c1 if you have the old or new panel?
Do you recommend this for switch or motion pro can't tell what's better
My tv won't let me select Boost Mode, please help
sorry ... I need help.... Why is the FPS is stuck at 119 ..? instead of 120hz? :( on my desktop PC when I am not in game .. its 119HZ and I want to see 120hz..
60hz cant 60fps as same 120fps cant 120hz
How to enable vrr i am playing ps5 can’t able to on vrr …
Hey, How is your experience With Abl on Oled cx and c1 ? And in which oleds model while playing video games is more aggressive? Thx
Intilially it was quite bad but now I found a neat trick to basically remove abl or at least not make it noticeably. You must be using windows 11 for this to work though. You must set OLED pixel brightness to 100 and in windows enable HDR and set your SDR brightness slider to what you want (I chose 50). It's important that you use windows 11 because it will distinguish between what's hdr and not and map the colours accordingly. Windows 10 just mapped everything to HDR and washed out everything not HDR to a point where it was unusable.
How do I know if my C2 is playing at 120 fps on ps5? I’ve got all the settings set but the game optimizer screen says 59-60 fps
Why is it greyed out on my LG lc1 game optimiser prevent input delay I can't select it
Si pones dolby vision no deja cambiarlo, tienes que estar en HDR
I haven't noticed much difference either way on Series X. The games all still look amazing on the C1 with VRR off or on. With Boosted input delay on or off too. I guess if you are actually measuring it you can see a difference but to the naked eye nothing stands out to me either way. I must say i have been really impressed at the brightness for HDR. I don't know if i was just lucky and got a pretty bright C1 panel or not but it was almost blinding at times in some games. Far and away better than my LED HDR TV. It is just i have heard negative reports about people complaining that the C1 is dull and i am yet to see any issue at all in this regard. The only issue i have come across is with the new game optimiser FPS counter. Is there a way to actually get this to work properly?
Try playing with standard mode and then try game optimizer with boosted input delay. The difference is huge, with standard mode it isn't even playable because the delay is so excrutiating.
@@rover5058 he’s not talking about standard mode on the TV picture modes.He’s talking about standard mode for game optimizer instead of boost.
I’ve played cod with both, and I don’t really notice a difference. Either way the response time is 1ms, and the input lag even on standard is super low.
Late reply but I don’t think it affects the series X/S since they have the option to always output at a 120hz container at an OS level even for 30/60 fps games. The other consoles don’t have that benefit
@@Cruxis_Angeltheyre not talking about frame rates tf 😂
How do u reduce the blue on the c1 warm 50 still looks to dam blue I would imagine white point calibration is my best bet what colormeter do u recommend I think the one u have is discontinued and auto cal correct?
You would need a spectro like the i1 basic pro 3, plus a colorimeter like the i1 display pro plus, and Calman. Or higher a calibrator that will use an alternate white point.
Is Boost possibly shifting the gamma? In most cases I'm finding I prefer boost off because to my eyes it's blowing out the picture even after the brightness adjustment. The colors look richer with Boost off, but I'm not entirely sure if that's just due to the crushed blacks bringing the color out.
My game mode was turned off by accident. Man the picture quality was way better. Game mode makes the picture look like crap
@@pjw4125 yo man how did u turn off the game mode, the difference was really this big? I want to try myself just to see imnsuper curious. Can u explain to me what changes did u notice in the image?
@@davidemascolo8473 well the game was warzone. The game just looked way better graphically. I guess with game mode on things look washed out. With game mode off things look crisp, clear and I don’t know just better lol. Hit settings button on controller the the. Hit game optimizer if you have the game hud enabled. If not you can go to all settings and just pick a different picture mode I guess.
@@pjw4125 thank you i bought the c1 a week ago i'm still learning, what do you think about pc mode and 4.4.4 chroma versus normal console mode? And also for the ps4 you use the same settings used for ps5??
@@davidemascolo8473 I bought the tv and ps5 at the same time. So I’m not sure what settings you are talking about
Hey Why is VRR off and why i cant cange to on?
How do I get this option it’s not on my tv
Hey. I got the C1 and a series s. I will get the PS5 later. Can you please tell me what settings i must use?
The only thing that i do is to turn the Tv on game optimizer and change it to warm 2. Und the game optimizer i just turn Freesync off. And in the xbox settings i let everything on and let the console on 120hz and 4k. But i'm not 100% happy with the picture.
Is game optimizer the same as instant game response?
Is it me or the native Netflix app on the LG plays brighter picture than the Shield or a Chrome cast ultra. I tried those settings none can match the brightness when on native lg apps
Do you have the AI settings on each app and input disabled, and the energy save option turned off?
@@ClassyTechCalibrations I only the AI picture pro turned on, from what I've seen that doesn't do anything to the brightness. I have the LG G1 65 inches
@@denny78uk when I have time I can check, but there shouldn't be any difference if all settings are the same.
Hey bud I recently purchased the 65" C2 and the peak brightness setting in HDR game mode is greyed out. I have the HGIG enabled but it's still to dim unless I turn the dynamic tone mapping on. Is this the standard now for the new models with not being able to use the peak brightness in game mode?
Yes it's automatically set to high for hdr content, just keep in mind not all hdr games utilise hgig well. Games like destiny 2 and no mans sky really pop with hgig as does the mass effect trilogy remasters on series x but there are alot of other games that it really doesn't help with. Like elden ring, that looks great with tone mapping on and bad with hgig. You can get peak brightness to be available if you use another setting other than game optimiser but then you missing out on all the other settings. If you want to play sdr games I swear by isf bright room as it makes the picture in sdr content much brighter. Welcome to being woken up to true tv settings HELL, you'll never be able to enjoy sitting down to a tv ever again if you go down the rabbit hole too far.
@@mattg768 lol thanks bud and yes I'm pretty far down that rabbit hole already but I'm just gonna red pill myself halfway through and appreciate my C2 even though they dropped the Samsung S95B two weeks after I got my tv! 🤦♂️ I'll probably end up getting QD-Oled though after the A95k drops in price in 1 or 2 yrs
I can’t turn in vrr even click vrr and amd premiums
Why i cant configure game optimizer
Its black
Have mate have you got any updated settings for the LG C1 for HDR 120hz? I got the tv now and feel a little disappointed when playing warzone on the ps5 doesn’t feel very popping
What happen?
Seems like you either enabled HDR tone mapping (disable it), your OLED brightness is too low, or your colour depth is way too low. That's all the tips I can give unless you describe the problem more in detail.
Does sharpness improvement or noise removal options affect input lag?
For gaming none of those settings do anything. It specifically says not available when connected to PC. I have tested sharpness too which you can still change but it does nothing on a PC. If you could enable them on a console don't! It will add so much input lag that it makes the game unplayable. Always use game optimized for anything you need go interact with, like pc or console.
@@silverwatchdog I have to disagree! I have my standard ps4 connected to an lg c1 oled. I have noise reduction on high and super resolution also on high with sharpness 30. On my game optimizer input lag is boosted and honestly I cannot feel any input lag at all when gaming! Literally not even slightly... everything I do on controller whiles playing games both at 30 fps 60fps seems lightspeed. Very very minimal input lag definitely not noticeable
@@benkirby6911 Then I doubt it does anything when playing games unless you can actively see a huge difference. I can also turn it to the max, but it doesn't actually do anything on my pc, but when I turn it to max on a video, it oversharpens the crap out of the image and it looks quite comical. Try to put it on max and see if it's actually doing anything.
@@benkirby6911 i have PS4 and thinking about buying the C1 can you tell me bit about gaming in 30 or 60fps regarding stutter or clarity.
@@parthivbomma6570 ps4 on c1... 30fps is horrible to look at. 60fps is great. I'm on ps5 now though and the upgrade from last gen to this gen is huge! I always chose the 60fps mode over the full 4k 30fps. The games that run 120fps are always on the 120 fps mode. Basically. Regardless of tv, monitor,pc or console the minimum fps should be 60... 30 is dogshit across the board
Does it matter if it's DV or HDR gaming?
do the sound settings of the TV affect soundbar 5.1 system quality?
Yes. Set the output to bitstream and let the soundbar do the work
Should we leave the black and white stabilizer at 10 ?
Yes
ciao io ho tv oled gaming ottimizza gioca da ps5 football 60hz e wazon 120hz come inposto tutto bene
So does it help with frame rates?
Does any of this matter for SDR?
@Classy Are all these still true for C2?
any tips on how to get the most brightness on pc in Sdr on the c1. I play mostly apex legends so I need the highest brightness and the lowest input lag.
In SDR game mode all you can really do is turn up the OLED brightness to 100 and contrast to 97. You will lose some color with contrast that high but it's the only way to get more brightness.
Have you tested whether there is a difference in game mode brightness between pc mode/hdmi/game console mode on pc. For some reason brightness feels different to me when I set my input to different things.
@@yaroslavchernyshov3725 exactly.
So with ps5 no use for vrr or freesync do u recommend boost mode but just make brightness adjustments
Yes but if you go into a 120 FPS mode, you would want to turn off the Game Optimizer toggle at the top of it's menu, and set your screen brightness back to 50.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations turn off game optimizer??
@@TJTRIZZ on PS5 at 120hz it wouldn't use any of the game optimizer features.
So for 60hz you would have it on with boost on and VR are off with white stabilizer at 9. At 120hz you could either leave it on and turn white stabilizer back to 10 or just toggle It off.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations ah I see what u mean thanks 👍
@@ClassyTechCalibrations so when using 120hz 4k HDR on ps5 your saying we should be using game optimiser for the C1?
What picture mode should we be in? I am wanting minimal input lag as I playing warzone and other fps
Is the CX and C1 similar in brightness in game mode?
Yes
Do latest firmware update affect on this brightness trick?
I think yes. No more brightness.
so using on pc 120hz vrr on or off doesnt do anything??
currently using boost for tina tina wonderlands vrr hovering around 80fps 4k. boost mode on or off? c1
Hello guys and classy i hope you read this... Do you know if with the latest update on the c1 affects this trick for the near black crush on boost mode? Do you think the picture in the latest update looks better in standard or boost mode, someone says that boost corrects the near blacks but the image become less sharp than standard. Thank you so much if you can help me to know this, it can also be an idea for a new video maybe if you want
Boost mode lifts gamma, but too much.
Boost mode also does not do anything at all if VRR is on or 120Hz is on. So generally it's better to just leave it off
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you for your response , anyway i don't see all this differences when boost mode is on, i play on bt.1886 so the increase in shadow details is good but i don't see it this much compared to normal, i don't see all this increase in gamma and i don't even see the image less sharp or less detailed, maybe they fixed all this? Could be interesting to test with your tools because with my eyes i can't see differences with the 2. I Always use boost idk why ahaha. Thank you so much ❤
@@davidemascolo8473 it's not going to effect sharpness or detail.
You can have it always toggled on, but it will not actually do anything unless the source is set to 60hz and VRR isn't active. Basically it's for some PS5 games, Switch, or older consoles.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations interesting so if the source is 120 fps it will only boost input lag and not raise blacks? In 60hz it raises blacks also. I got it right? Thank you very much man i appreciate a lot
@@davidemascolo8473 at 120hz it does nothing at all.
I was told boost mode disables 120hz. Is that false?
It doesn't disable it, it's not compatible with it. Boost mode enabled will automatically disable itself for 120hz.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thank you
Hey how do you manually turn Low Latency on? I clearly am playing a game and this stupid TV won’t turn on Low Latency mode.
does this work on sdr?
will leaving game boost on effect my calibration severely if im using calman autocal?
Yes it will. You could either do calibration for 60 with no vrr using boost, or calibrate with boost off.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations between these two options which do you think Is the most future proof? I'm assuming LG is going to fix this eventually with a firmware update and I want to avoid recalibrating.
@@brandonyong301 boost off works for everything so no switching should be needed.
holy shit this was this most complicated video ever im just trying to find out why my freesync and vrr wont work on my lg c1 at all for my xbox one x
My Xbox Series X makes youtube videos stutter when panning across. However, when I watch TH-cam on the LG TV itself it's fine. What settings do I change?
Could anyone please help me .
I have a LG G1, along with a PS5, when I go on the game optimiser dashboard I switch on the VVR & G -Sync mode along with the AMD Freesync Premium switched on too , but it shows on the top right of the dashboard that it is off VVR Freesync ?
How do I turn this on please
Turn all those options off. Vrr support for PS5 will come with firmware update soon. For now it is not compatible. But you do not have to worry since ps5 is rock solid @60fps. You do not need vrr. But never the less vrr support will be implemented, probably with next firmware update.
PS5 doesn't have VRR support yet.
Kinda wish I didnt subscribe to this channel...it makes me want to take my 65CX off the wall and throw it out the window...in all seriousness, awesome content and channel, keep it up!
Why?
@@superjasim th-cam.com/video/gtAYAeC5XoQ/w-d-xo.html this for starters
@@saiyanzzrage damn bro I hope u get a new one soon
Very nice discovery
Yes, Freesync is AMD's VRR
do you have a paid membership in which you offer pictures settings and stuff like that?
No, I wouldn't ever charge for settings. I do them in videos for everyone.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations can you help me with the sony A80j please
@@ridhaoueslati393 I already have a few videos on settings for it. Just look at my previous videos.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations I looked at them and was wondering if you could walk me through it, if possible. We can do it on whatsapp
According to quantum tv. When you connect ps5. You loose some of the tv customization settings. And he showed it on his video. Would you agree? Also wondered what you do have in tv setting and what you don't have.
I have not experienced this and neither has anyone Ive asked.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations ok. This was on the lg c1. Some of the motion setting were greyed out when he connected the hdmi cord. They came back on when he disconnected the hdmi.
@@chrisbytwerk3712 I'm aware, he also never updates TVs.
@@ClassyTechCalibrations Ahhaha this is hilarious
I can’t turn in vrr even click vrr and amd premiums