DID IT SUCK? | Doctor Who [IMPOSSIBLE ASTRONAUT / DAY OF THE MOON MEGA REVIEW]
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ZED'S (not) DEAD BABY! Harry's back with a massive review of Doctor Who's "The Impossible Astronaut" and "Day of the Moon" episodes.
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Hi , since i saw Silence in the Library i knew it was River all along ( before even knew who River was ) so if you missed that ... i didnt
Honestly did you watched it? Because most of your plot holes (and other problems) are explained or can be explained using little bit of time and clues they gave use(if we think). While actual plot holes are missed. Also, you really should be little realistic. You want to have every agent have some personality showing moments or something? (Clothes not, they are in work) Like how long do you think is episode of DW? And how much work it takes to made? Ho much do they paid them(honestly don't know, but probably not enough for writing background for everyone who appear on screen for 2 minutes+-). Honestly it looks like you are making up holes, that trying to find them.
Impossible Astronaut was a 7/10, Day of the Moon was a 3/10. If my maths is correct, that's a 10/10 story
Nope, that would be 10/20.
Nice profile picture
Just want to clarify for people doubting this, when adding fractions you don't add the denominator, just the numerator, so 7/10 + 3/10 = 10/10
I knew that maths degree was a good choice
Also it's a joke ya scrubs
All hail the dear leader!
@Andrew this profile used to be called Past Kevin and I would always comment "feck you" on his videos. I changed it back to my original name but kept the picture
The idea behind the ‘why wouldnt everyone watching the broadcast just forget’ is that they forget them but if they ever see them they remember the execution order
Exactly it’s established that the silence use subconscious suggestion to control the humans so this is a clever way of turning the ability against them although it’s imperfect
Seriously, Harry is such a dumbass sometimes. Especially since the episode already established this ability with Amy wanting to tell the Doctor something when the Silent told her to.
One of my favourite scenes.
Doctor: *giddee and chatty - sits down with head in hands* “what?! A mysterious summons you think I’m just going to go? Who sent those messages. Don’t play games with me, don’t ever ever think your capable of that. Nooooow, I love a bad guuuurrrlll me, but trust you?.... seriously?”
Honestly, it’s such a bone chilling dialogue delivery. Matt Smith was very passive aggressive and delivered some really cold and intimidating lines of dialogue. Love it.
I thought the whole Amy saying she isn't pregnant thing was because she'd already been swapped with a ganger while on the run.
This is correct.
He wouldn’t know this yet as he hasn’t seen the ganger episodes in a while
The ganger was still Amy. It had her consciousness and all of her experiences were her own. My understanding was that she simply didn't want to give the Doctor more to worry about and was maybe in denial herself.
@@theklayguy no it’s because she thought she wasn’t pregnant as the ginger body isn’t getting pregnant but she thinks that’s her actual body of course so she tells the doctor she’s not pregnant truly believing that
I think the reason why River landed in the swimming pool is because the Doctor can change where the front door leads... I mean I don't know if it was ever established but with a TARDIS that can change its appearance anytime it wants and is infinitely big I imagine it could 🤷♂️
Yeah they have a 2nd control room in the classic era and they changed which the door lead to.
The Doctor pokes Rory after seeing him after his death, Rory does the same after the Doctor's death
The God Complex is my favourite episode from this season. I like seeing the Doctors dark side of hating David Walliams, the nurse character was great, the idea of the fears being generated and the monster replacing your faith was fantastic. It could’ve been as good as Midnight but it kinda falters in some places. But still, best episode of the season!
One of my favorites of that season. I like it so much better than The Impossible Astronaut / Day of the Moon. Also like several other one-off stories of the season more than The Impossible Astronaut / Day of the Moon and several other "Moffat: Look how clever I am!" stories.
Tamer Theory I agree, that episode was great and I like The Doctor’s Wife and The Girl Who Waited a lot too. S6 had its share of really fantastic episodes so it’s a shame about the many problems.
Most of the standalone episodes in series 6 were great but the arc drags everything down to a halt.
@@jamescarr8196 You summed it up perfectly. That's how I feel about Season Six. I love The Doctor, Amy, Rory, River... I just wish they were other stories. I just don't care much for all the stuff Moffat kept putting into the stories in this season. Too clever by half.
@@jvblhc exactly my thoughts!
I know a lot of people don’t like this season because of how complicated it is but I personally love the complexity of it. Yeah it does have plot holes but for some reason I can’t help but love it. The Wedding of River Song and A Good Man Goes To War ate some of my favorite episodes. The music is just amazing tbh the music is up there with season 4. Again I know a lot of people have problems with this season and that’s fair but I just love it!
yh honestly i loved it when it first came out and then i rewatched it and thought it was garbage, but after rewatching it a third time i think the overall story is pretty good but the execution is poor at times
Personally it honk its just a mixed bag with a decent overall story but not that well executed
I didn't like the finale so much, and Let's Kill Hitler was... a bit... out there...
But the rest of the season is actually pretty good. Messy, of course, but in a Moffat way, and not a Chibnall way - so that makes a significant difference.
Not so fun fact but older Canton Everett Delaware III died in 2019. He was also the father of younger Canton Everett Delaware III. RIP William Morgan Sheppard 1932 - 2019.
The CGI in the Davies era could be pants at times, but being in SD helped disguise that a little. They never had anything as hilariously bad looking as River diving into the TARDIS though.
Waitcwhich episode was that
It’s the same reason the classic series DVDs include new effects, to hide the string and tape in HD. Moffat and Chibnall don’t care how badly their aesthetics age. Sherlock is already looking pretty wonky.
@@Pacmanfan-po9rn Day of the Moon. It's shown at least twice in this video.
Is that why the CGI never seems to look any better?
@@nifralo2752 Essentially, yes. They had a similar CGI budget, but didn't have the advantage of the show being filmed in SD. So the flaws show a lot more.
This two parter is somehow one of my favourite two parters in Doctor who, weird i know, but i just like the ideas themes and execution (most of the time) in the episodes. It felt like they had fun filming it, and i think it shows
Actually this is a very popular episode, maybe my top 5 favourite two parters maybe my joint 6th favourite
She knew she was pregnant in episode 1, but 3 months without any sign of pregnancy would tend to put some doubt on that. lol
Or even just menstruation. It would be surprising that she would not have her period for *3 months* and then somehow doubt she was pregnant, and having her period in that time would solidify that she was never, in fact, pregnant.
I always thought the silences ship was the same one from the lodger, and in that episode the co-pilot was going haywire because the ship had been left alone for so long. Also the show explains why the silence are called the "silence" in matt smiths final episode.
Gotta say, I love this two parter. The detail of the Lodger's ship being on Autopilot because Craig and Sophie killed the silence is great.
wait craig and sophie killed the silence ?
@@billyrilot yeah, that's why the ship was on autopilot.
@@sonnykingcomposer I don’t think they killed the silence, like how is that possible?
@@emperorboss5557 because they had watched the clip of the moon landing and killed them, Hence why the ship went on autopilot. The doctor's line where he says 'suppose I'm about to find out' when stepping out of the TARDIS is jsut a really nice detail imo
@@sonnykingcomposer Woah holy shit I never noticed this! Great interpretation!
“How do I know the bureau isn’t involved”
*doctor nods
*doctor was in Dallas in 1963
The first time I ever saw a single scene of Dr. Who was during a Christmas marathon and it was the last 10 minutes of day of the moon where the doctor gives his speech to the silence. I am a sucker for speeches and was instantly hooked. I think if it was any other scene, I would not have gotten hooked!
27:53 can we talk about how Harry really formed a whole audibly flawless phrase in the middle of a double sneeze
I remember watching this when it first aired and thinking the nausea thing was hinting at Amy being pregnant with a timey-wimey foetus (River) and then Moffat lightly suggesting that River could also be pregnant. Which I thought was a cool idea seeing as we don't really know where exactly she is in her timeline at this point
Actually really enjoy this two-parter. It has a lot going for it and I find that even if it didn’t end perfectly it’s ambitious in a way doctor who rarely is any more.
This was the first episode of Doctor Who I ever watched, so starting with the Doctor dying was an especially weird way to go. But I stuck with it.
Plus, in retrospect I always thought that Amy's nausea when seeing The Silence was a subtle hint at her pregnancy.
Just a note on the pregnancy thing a lot of women don’t need to take a test to know that their pregnant our bodies change in certain ways that aren’t normal to us usually so we can sometimes just tell as weird as that sounds and our periods stop so that’s a big sign😂😂 so there are a lot of signs without a test but obvs we do take one eventually haha!
I disagree with some of your review as I find this episode is a fun watch but I agree with some points especially Rory and Amy’s relationship, I remember watching it and being like guys come on your married at this point 😂 xx
The Girl Who Waited and The Doctor's Wife is two cracking episodes from this series, most others are either forgettable or story arc stuff which I didn't care for.
Moffatt always did better with stand-alone stories, in my opinion, and more importantly, when he had someone to rein him in.
I thought The Doctor's Wife was written by Neil Gaiman?
While not my favourite two parter I do find these episodes very enjoyable. I think it comes down to the pacing that makes them easy to watch plus having Mark A Shephard is a bonus, just a shame his character never returned. Season 6 isn't the best but it does have one of the best episodes of the modern Who run in The Doctors Wife which stands up there with Midnight and Impossible Planet for me.
I don’t think Canton would have been able to marry his partner ‘shortly after’ though, seeing as he was in a same-sex relationship.
At 6:12 despite the fact they say that they were filming across the pond, that restaurant/cafe that the Doctor greets everyone in is a cafe in Cardiff, the capital of Wales. It’s got a US aesthetic (hence the Elvis picture on the bathroom door and some of the seats against the counter being motorbikes,) the actual cafe is on the riverfront in Cardiff.
This is definitely my favourite series of revival Who. Every single episode apart from the James Cordon one is a banger!
I think it’s underrated but not the best
@Cyber Emperor let's kill Hitler was pretty bad tbh
Moffat leaving plot points hidden and having a story arc teased isn’t a bad thing wth
2:18 - *y'all welcome.*
You really didn't pay attention to the episode. The whole purpose why they had to keep this plan a secret because they didn't know when or where the silence were. The silence have powers to basically killed you on site without any trace, anything they suggest to you you follow and don't remember doing it. Did you ever understood the line that the silence has been on our planet for millennia and they just decided to manipulate us to go into space. This is a really sad review.
I remember being so excited for the actual date they kept showing in the episode..April whatever. I miss looking forward to whats next with the Doctor. When it felt current and fresh. Now I just wish they'd stop going. Its just so awful now
I like your reviews but half the complaints here seemed to be "why didn't we learn what nixon likes to eat for breakfast, maybe we'll see in a future episode"
9/10 from me it think this is an amazing story
When you started the Vietnam war but everyone blames the guy that ended it instead: *Happy JFK noises*
When is this guy not being sponsored by skillshare, like jeezus Christ!
That diner actually used to exist and was in Cardiff at the boardwalk! It was the exact same except with more Americana memorabilia and TVs playing old music videos. They actually painted the back door into a TARDIS after Hell Bent. I visited with my Dad a few days after Jodie was announced while in town for the Doctor Who Experience, and the waitress took our picture with the TARDIS and chatted about the casting announcement. It's a great memory for me, and sadly it is now closed.
This episode is probably one of the best of matt smiths era, 5/10 on average u put, offensive
PLEAse don’t stop after series 7! I have to see you review claras seasons
Hard disagree on this one. I remember The Impossible Astronaut caused all the rage at school and online. I personally found the "they're americans" really funny. And the slow motion at the end was like "oh shit no I have to wait a week"
I do remember the first half of season 6 to be alright. I really like the opener, The Doctor's Wife and the Flesh two parter
16:28
Osmium is the densest element, but there are things that are denser. The core of the sun is about 7 times denser, for example. I think the densest thing in the universe period is the core of a neutron star, which... uh. Is dense enough that if they tried to make one of those bricks out of it, it'd weigh as much as several hundred mountains.
I assume they meant hardest/strongest material and just got it confused with density. Still amusing to think that those guards are just the strongest creatures in existence though lol.
That Toby joke with Rory on the dam got me 😂😂
You don't seem to be aware that women have periods (or sometimes not)
The Big Bang thing it just make sense why he could travel back on his timeline as it was a distorted timeline. It be like blown up something is exploding. That fact your breaking didn’t effect anything as it already destroyed. This is how I saw it and Rory just misunderstood it.
Series 6 is, in my mind, the last good series of Doctor Who. The overarching plotline is good (The bits they explained anyway) and there's some great episodes here (The Rebel Flesh and The Almost People, Closing Time, The Doctor's Wife, The Girl who Waited.) And The Silents are great (Even though them being Silents working for the Silence is a bit weird.)
And don't worry about the lack of Who coverage, all of your stuff is good. The Love Death and Robots Series 2 analysis was great stuff!
21:59. Completely missed opportunity for the Soldiers to say "Yes, we know who you are"
I dunno theres some fair criticisms as always but I personally love this 2 parter and yeah theres some DW cringe as per but I love the creepyness of parts and again the comedy of the moffat era usually lands for me. Id say series 6 is weaker as a whole but indivdually has my favourite epsiodes in the new who run
Well naturally I disagree - Day of the Moon is superior to the lacklustre The Impossible Astronaut, but neither are phenomenal. All of Series 6 is flawed in its nonsensical over-complications, only made worse once you know what's happening. The mystery may be intriguing as ever but nothing really quite makes sense in the end. Still, much better than the next story!
'I'm President Nixon.'
"Yes, we know who you are"
I think you can guess how I feel about this two parter 😂
16:05 reminds me of that scene in the Simpsons where millhouses is held hostage over the dam😂
I really enjoyed most of Series Five, up to but not including The Pandorica Opens and The Big Bang. Seriously, if the only way you can get out of your messy and over-complicated story is to blow up the universe... geez... for me, this was the beginning of what I call Uber-Moffat, where he just can't stop over-plotting his stories, using the companions as pieces of a puzzle instead of using them like the human being they are. Hence, this is why I rather really enjoy the one-off stories like Amy's Choice, Night Terrors and The God Complex. Kind of interesting, though, when you realize that The Doctor is hanging out with Rory, Amy and River in 1969 while at the same time The Doctor is with Martha in 1969.
I’ll take blowing up the universe over yet another dalek invasion, sorry
@@tobylerone4285 And I respect the opinions of both you and Dan above. I'm a Moffat fan but I don't care much for much of his work in Season Six.
I just presumed that since the tardis is alive she can move her doors wherever she wanted and just put them above the pool
Edit: they did forget after the message stopped but they remember next time they see the silence
Man giving day of the moon 3/10, can’t wait until you eventually get to seasons 11 and 12 there’s going to be a lot of 1’s and 2’s I reckon
I really like the idea that the silence look the way they do cause aliens have that weird look with large heads and stuff and they look like that cause that’s our subconscious thought of what aliens look like due to lose memories of the silence, I’m bad at explaining stuff but I hope that makes send, also not sure if it’s intentional but the silence do look a little like slender,
The line about the lights never being fixed is actually a rather subtle hint that I think, even for Doctor Who standards, is really clever
people cant remember the Silence, but they can remember the physical impact they have on their surroundings, meaning people would remember the flickering lights caused by the Silence's presence, and the fact that those flickering lights have supposedly been around for long enough to become something that's poked fun at hints towards the fact that the Silence had been pulling strings for *generations*, not being a new presence on the planet
writing that off as just a poorly written one-off line is kinda sad, but it is funny seeing a mostly Doctor Who centric channel miss a hint like that, just shows that the series always had clever writing and plenty of tricks up it's sleeves
My predictions for Harry’s scores for the rest of the season:
The curse of the black spot - 3 or 4 (his score: 3)
The doctors wife - 8 (his score: 9)
The rebel flesh/the almost people - 3 (his scores: 2/3)
A good man goes to war - 7 (his score: 4)
Let’s kill hitler - 2 (his score: 4)
Night terrors - 4 (his score: 5)
The girl who waited - 8 (his score:8)
The god complex - 6 or 7 (his score: 4)
Closing time - 2 (his score:2)
The wedding of river song - 1 (his score: 4)
I agree with all your 6+ ratings
These episodes still makes me question when Amy was replaced. Was it during the bathtroom? Could it have been during the 3 month gap? Hell, when she went into that room with the silence originally did they replace her then and that's why she was allowed to walk free, only being caught later to keep up the charade.
What happened in the 3 month gap between both parts is explained in The Brilliant Book of Doctor Who 2012. Zero-balanced dwarf star alloy was used in The Family of Blood for the chains.
Been waiting for this one for a while
Yeah the whole overarching storyline involving River in that astronaut suit is just so needlessly complicated.
Yeah I think the words "needlessly complicated" is a good way to describe a lot of Moffat's era, especially this particular season.
I still don't quite understand what was really going on.
But that doesn't make sense either bc the Universe was destroyed before The Doctor met a past version of himself. I assumed that it was because the cracks in time grew and absorbed the universe.
An enjoyable video/review! Re. 9:21 - this could be reduced to "Americans own lots of guns," yet I think they're taking it a step further: "Americans are trigger happy, don't give them even the slightest reason to shoot you." The second amendment is... complex.
I like the silence they freaked me out and are one of my favourite creatures cause they look sick
Day of the moon - 8/10
Weird how Series 6 starts after the beginning of Torchwood Series 4 and yet neither Amy or Rory mentioned the fact that the entirety of Humanity had become immortal during 'Miracle Day' at all off screen. Surely it's something that the Doctor would want/need to know about.
I would imagine since RTD and Chibnall were the creative voices behind Torchwood, while Moffat was two seasons into his own Doctor Who run, he probably wasn't that interested in tying the events in. Earlier seasons of Torchwood and Who were all helmed by RTD, which explains why they were so interconnected.
@@LabradorIndependent yeah, but it would be a bit weird that they'd never mention it from an in-universe perspective as in the timeframe between the episodes at the start and end of the series break they just got dumped back on Earth in the middle of it all.
In my head canon, Miracle Day takes place after series 6. It's the only way to make sense of it. The Doctor is presumed dead throughout the universe, and Amy and Rory don't see him for well over a year. Its place in the timeline is my biggest contention with MD, because despite all its flaws, I still enjoy it. Though some coordination between Moffat and Davies would have been appreciated
Doesn't miracle day take place several years after children of earth. Still why isn't children of earth not mentioned.
@@owenhayes2837 Technically it's listed as 2011/release of series, same as Series 6 (since the 'modern day' episodes backtracked in line with reality either during the Tennant Specials or Series 5). As for Children of Earth, maybe that was never mentioned since the events only lasted 5 days a few months after the Daleks tried to destroy Reality so maybe the Doctor wanted some distance from present day Earth and just activated Do Not Disturb on the TARDIS... but Series 10 means he had no excuse for not intervening.
I think the gun thing with the doctor shouting no was epic tbh sent chills down my spine. And the thing about river being able to escape prison all the time, so what’s the point in her even being locked up? Coz she’s river song she can just escape 😎
the doctor explains early on that the silence were controlling humanity through post hypnotic suggestion, so humanity would forget the silence but they would remember the order to kill the silence whenever they saw them, so every time a human watched that clip on the internet they would receive the order, the doctor’s plan was meant to work over generations, not just at the time of the event
It wasn't the doctor crossing his time stream that caused the universe to disappear, it was the exploding tardis. I think rory was just making a point that the universe was messed up when he was doing that.
I hate this season, and these episodes in particular. It's complete nonsense is what it is. So you're telling me that the silents have been there throughout the whole history of earth, but the doctor hasn't ever noticed anything. The moon-landing thing is just so silly when you think about the mechanics of it. The silents that people kill under the order leave bodies right? The creature design is cool, but it would've been much better as a one off monster of the week. And oh my god, the silents have space travel tech, but they decide to manipulate the humanity to go to the moon so that they can build a space suit for them so that they can use it as basically a diving suit. Are you fucking serious??
This era's such a disaster, holy shit. I'd forgotten how much I hated this stuff.
The best episode in this season is probs the one where Amy ages like 1000 years in that alternate time stream and meets her younger self that’s the only one that sticks out
@@christucker7655 I'm not sure I even remember it... this might be the season that I abandoned the show.
@@peacemaster8117 yeh I stopped watching as soon as Matt spliff left the show hit but I think season 5 is the last season worth watching tbh
Next year I will have known about Doctor Who for 10 years...
22:42 BARZ
I give DAY OF THE MOON 10/10 its my favorite Dr who episode from all
I’m glad that this start hasn’t been re done so it’s not boring
Like imagine if they constantly killed the doctor at the start
I can't believe I guessed both ratings!
What bothers me is that the episodes never even explain why the silence have to leave in the first place. They're parasites, sure, but their actual intentions are left so unclear and it feels like the terribly-executed lightning hands were written in just to give them an actual sense of threat in these episodes. Killing that random innocent woman in the bathroom was such awful writing.
One thing I dont hear many people talk about is how canonically the doctor wouldnt have been able to regenerate in this episode because it was later revealed that he didnt have any more regenerations left. Not really a plothole made by this episode, it was made by an episode later down the line, but it still is a plothole.
The Amy pregnancy thing is prob linked to her abduction she was pregnant at the beginning probably taken during the 3 month break then since her ganger wasn’t pregnant and she wasn’t showing she thought she maybe was reading or feeling it wrong I guess.
I can't be the only who thinks that with a beard Matt Smith give some Simon Baker vibes so is basic The Mentalist in Doctor Who, but anyway i also have issues with Amy and Rory relationship (POOR RORY).
Yes potential ideas but execution was terrible
My biggest problem with this story is how it creates more questions than it really answers
There's hardly any plot resolution or finality at the end, it's all just a set-up for the later episodes in the season. Really well-made dialogue and visuals however, I still enjoyed the episodes
Can't say whether it was intentional or not, but the idea that specifically the women's restroom was in serious need of maintenance but they just keep putting it off because there are hardly every women in the white house is actually hilarious.
Impossible astronaut - 9/10
As an aside I really liked Canton! Thought he was brilliant and fit the series perfectly. I wish he'd become a bit more of a recurring character.
What doesnt make sense: apparently timelords are restricted to 12 regenerations, in this he begins to regenerate without any problems however at the end of series 7 he cant until hes given more orange glowy power through a crack from the timelords
My cannon fic is that this is the tesselecta just sprouting regen looking energy. The fixed pt was always the tesselecta dying not the dr
Pls dont ask me to make sense of wedding no one can
This opening 2 parter is pretty overrated in my opinion. The Impossible Astronaut is the better part of the 2 but Day of The Moon sucked and the way The Silence are defeated was such a cop out. Series 6 is the worst of the Matt Smith era in general!
Moffat really is a short story writer along the lines of Lovecraft. He creates bizarrely immersive imagery such as the astronaut in the lake or the Silence on the ceiling but doesn’t have the talent to adequately explore it. Every time he opens strongly, he spectacularly fails to stick the landing. He should be humble enough to write the first part and hand off the second part for another writer to resolve.
@@lewiskazinsky7334 idk he has shown the ability to resolve these great ideas many times, in Blink for instance. Not sure why he fails so often, maybe just the stress of being showrunner because his four under RTD are all brilliant.
Q. How on Earth did River get her regeneration powers? The Time Lords didn't get their's from the time vortex but DNA manipulation of the Doctor when they were found - as shown in the most recent series with the female Doctor.
Oh look, another giant plot hole.
Oh so that's why series six had multiple episodes that took place in the American West! I thought the writers just wanted a change of scenery
Your comments on the colors of this episode... that does me think of the dire colorization of the Whittaker era...
I can’t wait for him to review series 7
That was absolutely shit
Don't ever diss Dinosaurs on a Spaceship or The Snowmen.
@@DiamondFire most episodes were awful tho
@@DiamondFire I absolutely loved 'The Snowmen.' I wish we had been able to keep Victorian Clara. She was awesome.
@@JR-pf9in Some people said the relationship between Clara & Doc was creepy... I completely disagree.
I think they had the most POPPIN chemistry I have ever seen.
@@DiamondFire Creepy? I never heard that but I also disagree. It was awesome.
The whole scene when they run up the stairs to the TARDIS is delightful.
'So you really live up here, on a cloud, in a box? Blimey, you really know how to sulk.'
'It's smaller on the outside!'
The thing with Nixon is he actually was a pretty good president. He did several good things... just yeah. He broke the law cause he was paranoid and got what he deserved
This isn't actually Amy, its a plastic clone of her.
Well it a flesh’s clone
A plastic clone would be an auton like Rory was in the last series
Nausea is not side effects of amnesia.
The nausea...
I mean I hate pretty much all the stuff with amy and rory and this is no exception, it's so clear in this episode that they never originally intended river to be amy and rory's child, it also bugged me that amy was supposed to be swapped with a ganger before this episode, when it would have made more sense for her to be swapped when the silence take her
Shame there wasn't a monster in these episodes
Ah yes. The US of A
So Chris Chibnall is a patron?!
I can't properly articulate my argument as to why i disagree with your assessment of their relationship as shown in this two parter, but it boils down to rory loves Amy to the point that upon hearing that she was hiding a potential child even though "he's always wanted kids" his first reaction is "silly goose I'm a nurse i could have helped you" rather than the cliche "rawr you hide baby me so angry" that i guess you expected? I admit i never quite understood that reaction except for in a "fornication friend" relationship,.