DID IT SUCK? | Doctor Who [THE REBEL FLESH / ALMOST PEOPLE MEGA REVIEW]
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This week, Harry utterly tears into a couple of Doctor Who episodes that should be best left forgotten: "The Rebel Flesh" and "The Almost People"
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Omg how could I forget, seriously tho that’s a pretty good deal,
Rory is a nurse. As they have stated in almost every episode beforehand. And he is a real caring human.
I think his "I'm a nurse" is his version of "I'm the Doctor"
Amy: *attempts to rape a man while cheating on her fiance*
Harry: Hilarious!
Rory: *is shown to be compassionate to a woman going through an emotional breakdown*
Harry: DISGUSTING! CHEATER! HOMEWRECKER!
And of course Rory is going with her to the bathroom, they all just fucking passed out, he's there in case she blacks out or starts vomiting, or anything else. She said she's feeling unwell, and he's a nurse. His literal job involves helping people go to the bathroom if they can't go themsleves.
Those double standards really show don't they?
That wall of fucking eyes scared me so much as a kid, not even mentioning the fucking fleshy deer restructure at the end
Rory is a nurse so he's obviously gonna be more caring
but he was sort of flirting and a bit over the top
@@NeonHeadlights lol she was flirting with him he's just showing empathy
I don't think he was being inappropriate 😕
He also found her cold and alone, misguided in the universe. If anything it kind of foreshadows how he wants to have children, as he stands by her and accompanies her.
Difference between empathy and stalking my guy
I dont know, it's bad, yes, but I think maybe you were a little to harsh. I feel like Rory cared about Jen so much because he understood what she was going through(since he was also a fake/plastic version of himself once). I agree though about the sneezing guy, totally useless character. The next one is one of the better Moffat Episodes, in my opinion
It’s not a Tennant era episode so of course he’s gonna be harsh on it
He’s such a nit picker
How does he understand what she's going through? She's from a different time and in a totally alien situation. His focus on her is very strange especially when he should be focused on the safety of his wife. It is clearly made for season 5.
@@tictac4244 that's the point, he's critiquing it. Even with Tennant/RTD era episodes he's pretty nitpicky.
@@markmatthews7202 there’s critiquing then there’s picking apart every tiny little detail. And then he acts like these are massive problems when they don’t really matter
Sadly this story is let down by some truly shocking CGI but is nicely directed and hell even has Mark Bonnar acting his socks off, so yes I think you rated this way too harshly.
Lets hope we get updated special effects for this story if they do new who on the collection sets 😂
I mean the effects have never been good so
I swear he didnt hold the tennant era to this scrutiny, again I say I enjoyed this and thought it terrifying as a kid and enjoy it to this day. Fun ideas explore. CGI was bad? mate is doctor who
I honestly believe he has a lot of nostalgia bias so his reviews definitely aren’t gospel
These episodes were rubbish anyway
Bad effects should be par for the course with Doctor Who, it’s not really something that can be overly criticised with Who due to the low standards of effects anyway. But I think the CGI in this is particularly low brow in comparison to other stories of the series.
@@DanTheMan2150AD Yeah I get that, you shouldn't push the effects of a scene, compromises coulda been made
@@dylanpowell4837 especially given some of the effects work in Classic Who…
Matthew Graham is a good writer. Life on mars and Ashes to Ashes are some of the best drama's the UK has to offer.
I remember being really scared of this episode as a kid (now just finding the concept creepy but finding the execution bad) but I actually really liked music-man (think his name was Graham?) and even though it was randomly sprinkled in there I liked how chill him and his double were since they just wanted to see their kid, and I thought it was fun at the end having the ganger return... might be just me, I'm just a sucker for soft moments like that.
PS: I loved the Amy reveal, makes this two-parter so much better. Read a theory a while back that she's been replaced since the impossible astronaut since you can see madam whats-her-face open a window in the door and mention something about her state. Thought it was cool
I honestly thought this two parter was one of the highlights of season 6, so much more memorable and interesting than alot of the other episodes, awful CGI aside. The cliffhanger at the end was awesome watching it for the first time too.
🤷🏼♀️ Different strokes for different folks, the only critic you will ever find yourself agreeing with entirely is yourself.
Great ideas maybe not executed as good as they could’ve but I personally liked these episodes. And Amy doesn’t argue with Rory about being with be ause she’s a strong willed woman who has faith in her husband and knows that he wouldn’t spontaneously cheat on her with a random woman he met 10 minutes ago.
Rory the nurse caring and showing empathy for those in emotional stress - what a strange turn of events.
Sure, but his bigger character trait is his dedication to Amy, which is completely ignored and replaced by a dedication to this random woman at the expense of trying to help or look after Amy....
@@jonsmith5058 don't you mean "not really Amy"? OMG!
@@YourBeingParanoid Sure :P
He's more dedicated to 'not really random girl' than 'not really Amy'.....
Jeez that shit was really poorly written.
You know what else what really poorly written? The fact the the Doctor can and does very casually melt not really Amy but never bothers to do that to the other flesh monsters...... (been a while since I watched that shite so I dunno if they blah blah'd a reason why he couldn't or didn't do it before but did do it to 'Amy').
@@jonsmith5058 I think there was a reason but it was something alone the lines of using what he does to Amy as a way of finding her. Maybe. I can barely remember either as the episode was semi-shite. And I haven't watched it in years.
See, your whataboutism has no place here.
Regarding Rory, I do think it was being used as a hint that his intuition was off as he was acting oddly.
True - its not genius writing like Orphan Bennie, but it's certainly still more enjoyable to watch than anything Jodie Whittaching has been in. The twist at the end was very good and if we knock any points off for aging special effects, then the classics must be in the firing line too.
Also, it's good enough for this channel to milk for cash - so I do find the sponsored slagging off a bit hypocritical.
@@YourBeingParanoid oh don’t get me wrong. I gave up during the Capaldi era, I think the awful one with the monsters made from ‘eye dust’ broke me so I’ve only seen stuff about the new stuff second hand (from better people than Harry).
I also won’t defend Harry, he showed himself to be a hack to me during his awful reviews on the Mandalorian, especially as he commented ignorantly on so many lore elements.
I watch just his Doctor Who stuff as at least it shows he knows the lore and sometimes has interesting stuff behind the scenes.
I always liked the ending chase where she transformed. It gave me nightmarea as a kid
Ganger Doctor questions if the Doctor tends to say Yowza. I made a note of that for re-watches, and sure enough, Eleven says it in Angels Take Manhattan. It's one of my favourite pieces of Doctor Who trivia, because it's the only one I've managed to find on my own.
As bad as this episode was, I would like Doctor who to return to the creepy and almost disturbing tone this episode had as it could be very refreshing if done properly
Could even do that with stuff regarding H P Lovecraft, even, considering the series has dabbled with werewolves, witches and even Satan at one point.
Plus, I guess it could always lead to a bit of a satisfying moment, of having a supremacist character's mind broken and reduced to an empty shell, after encountering whatever cosmic entity the episode has to offer.
Especially with the running theme in Lovecraft's stories of challenging humanity's self worth in the universe. (Amongst other elephants in the room.)
@@retrogamelover2012 Similar to Dickens meeting ghosts though isn't it? Lovecraft meeting squid people.
Also I don't think the modern BBC would show Lovecraft, too controversial.
Would be quite funny to see him taken to today like how Vincent and the Doctor ends but instead of it being an art gallery where he gets told he's the best artist it's an interracial wedding with loads of interracial couples, just to see what Lovecraft freaking out about it! Lol
@ Never said it had to be Lovecraft himself. Plus, when I was thinking about this supremacist's mind being broken, I was essentially meaning in a similar way to how someone would react to that whole machine in Hitch-hiker's guide to the Galaxy, that pin-points where you are, in comparison to the universe.
Never gonna happen because Disney is now funding the show. :(
@Dinosaurianationazation I dunno, we got pretty close with Wild Blue Yonder.
I always remember enjoying these episodes with some great ideas just executed a bit wonky
"Jesus Christ, us that kid doing the Floss?"
Considering that this episode precedes the meme by seven years, no. Weird coincidence though.
1:47 I'm reportin you to the cahncil!
I actually hated the inconsistency of this episode as a kid, I got so confused working out why there are so many Jennifers and why they were all gangers
I did find most of the characters frustrating but overall I really like this episode. Hey leave Rory alone he's a nurse he's trying to help unlike Amy who only cares about her self and Rory is just annoying most of the time. It's one of the few episodes where he's kinda cool.
I dunno I know the CGI isn’t perfect but I think it works. It’s creepy and unsettling
The editing in this review was so funny, the 'Council' edit and the 'what' Rory says to Jennifer is amazing
These episodes have me nightmares for months as a kid 😭
I always thought "the almost people/the rebel flesh" was going to be the cyberman episode, shame we got like a 5 minute epic cyberman cameo and a god awful single episode in series 6.
The names sound cyberman ish themed
I can’t wait for this guy to rip into series 7 😍 can not wait!!! Also please don’t spare “the wedding of river song” I want you to tear it to shreds.
Aside from the fact Series 7 is perhaps smith’s strongest series anyway…
@@DanTheMan2150AD nah I’d say series 5 tbh
@@NileSWPhotography aside from the fact that Series 5 only has two noteworthy stories and Series 7 has about 6
@@DanTheMan2150AD series 7 has 6?! Which ones are notable?
@@NileSWPhotography
A Town Called Mercy
The Angels Take Manhattan
The Snowmen
Cold War
Hide
The Name of the Doctor
I actually really liked this episode
Im genuinely not suprised at this point, anything made after series 4 is bad to this guy.
This was, by far, the scariest episode of the entire show when I was little. It aired when I was 8 and gave me nightmares for ages. Sure I didn't get to watch Silence in the Library or Blink until I was 12/13 as that's when I actually got Netflix, but bloody hell this ticked all the right freakout boxes for me back then and no episode that aired past that point reached the same level. The bad CGI glares through to me now but back then it was awful
Well she looked very surprised, her jaw nearly hit the floor
This episode has some stuff I really like, such as that bloke from Line of Duty, a ganger Doctor (A usage of references to old Doctors that wasn't useless pandering!) and Rory's line about Dusty Springfield are why I remember it. The themes and the end are great, but the episode is a bit so-so.
Also, Tennant's voice is dubbed over Smith as well during the "Mimic old Doctors bit as well", but it's not for all of the line, oddly.
I have always loved this 2 parter. Don't know why. It hits me differently
I thought these episodes had some great ideas, but could have been executed better.
It felt like it would have too many concepts for 1 episode, but not enough for a 2 parter. Its an odd one
You won't find me saying anything bad about an episode that gives us 40 weeks pregnant Amy...
Talk about "puddle of cum"
*I AM JENNIFER LUCAS*
Guy makes a bunch of good points but watching all the Matt Smith reviews I think there's a lot of bias towards him not liking Smith lmao well Ring of Akhaten incoming
“nOo, nOtHiNg dOdGeY aT aLl” 👀😅😏 Rory was doin BITSSSS!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Harry could you stop making me wait so long for these banging videos please
My predictions are 4/10 and 2/10
It was actually 3/10 and 2/10.
Nearly got it.
Happy Ending!
Spoiler
22:37 His name has just reminded me of that moment in Game of Thrones when Bronn heard Dickon Tarly's name and started laughing his ass off lol
The flesh people look like they were modeled after the unfinished CGI of Voldemort. It would have been so much better if they had just been a straight up duplicate and we wouldn't know who's who. Such potential wasted haha
Pretty sure that only two episodes later there's a whole deal made about how Rory never looked at another woman
This was my first doctor who episode, really did a good job setting the vibe, horror crossed with adventure crossed with an engaging and thought provoking plot. If there was anyway I was gonna get into the show this was it.
14:43 I wish 💀
I'd like to inform you that if "A Good Man Goes to War" does not get at least a 7... so help me god.. I will come for you.
Probably the best episode of season 6
Welp.
@@jaystev Yes I threw eggs at his house dw
Yes I did think Rory was spending a little too much time with Jennifer
I personally enjoyed these ep. Think it's the idea of clones but flesh genetics just get me. It could be that am just comparing it to morden doctor who
It's sad that the Smith era so far has been exactly what I remembered.
Yep, trash indeed.
It took me until today to realise the actor for buzzer (Marshall Lancaster) was also in both life on Mars and Ashes to ashes, such a shame a good actor was put to waste in an episode like this
“COWNCIL!”
The drag race edits always get me lmao so unexpected yet welcome
Doesn't help that Matt Smith looks like a ganger- he doesn't even need makeup... Odo from DS9 comes to mind.
I can't believe I was scared by this two parter when I was younger
16:33 Jennifer is secretly Dutch van Der Linde
Matt's northern accent made me crack up 😂
13:02 that scared me shitless I remember hiding behind a wall when that came on
What was with series 6 scaring me all the time.
i personally like these ones 👁 👄 👁
They could have linked this in with the Sontaran two parter from Series 4, or at the very least had him mention it since the gangers do feel like watered down versions of them.
Harry when Russel T Davies doesnt make an episode of television 🤬🤬🤬🤬
I like how a writer can write an absolute dross of an episode like 'Fear Her' and then is able to get the go ahead to write a two parter. 🙃
To be fair he did write Life on Mars and Ashes to ashes after fear her (two very highly regarded dramas)
This episode seriously confused me when I first saw it because the impression I got was that everyone was a clone from the start, that they would just clone themselves after suffering a fatality and then the clone would develop into a full human, and the cycle continued, and that apparently clones weren't considered legitimate if the previous clone was still alive.
So all of that really scrambled my noggin as I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the real issue was; they talked like there were real humans and clones and that the clones didn't have any rights; but as previously stated, I thought they were all clones to begin with, that the 'original' humans died a long time ago, and their consciousness transferred into clone bodies.
All of that in mind, seeing clone bodies melting into a living mass and them being destroyed by a sonic screwdriver only added further confusion as it just seemed like the screenwriter was just making the rules up as he went, all the while lazily slapping some kind of social commentary onto the story.
And having said all of that; wouldn't this episode have been infinitely more interesting if it were about the Autons? That would justify body-modifications since Autons were just masses of living plastic, and exploring individuality and individual rights in this hive-mind species -as well as presenting a prior enemy now as a three-dimensional character, is an incredibly interesting idea
I kind of hate it when you keep complaining about the budget because it's obviously not their fault.
I think a big massive point of Doctor Who is that you can still like the show despite the budget restrictions. Still though while I do like these episodes I understand and agree with your points and respect them
Are you planning on re-reviewing the capaldi era of the show as well as the smith era? Would be interested to see if you still stand by your contrarian stance on Heaven Sent and Hell Bent. As a side note I dont think you should ever bother re-reviewing series 11 and 12 as I think we'd all just prefer to pretend they don't exist, but I would be interested in seeing a more up to date review of series 8, 9 and 10.
Love your reviews man - you rate them as I would as a classic Who fan!
A couple of ideas for the episodes:
Would have been interesting to see a scene where they try to hijack the gangers consciousness with the Avatar machine. See if that connection is still there. Could’ve had a character that’s been possessed by their own Ganger or maybe their consciousness’ swap over, making a really interesting dilemma. Or like a Sleeper agent of sorts.
Like you said in the review tension is only there when we don’t know which persons a Ganger or not.
Ganger Jennifer could have walked perfectly on walls like she’s on an MC Esher painting instead of all the slimy Mr Fantastic stuff. She could walk in between small spaces like a Terminator or something. Disguise herself as a puddle and reform behind them. Lots of things can happen.
Maybe there could have been a short scene where they don’t realise there isn’t a mirror in the room and what’s reflecting them is their own Gangers in the background (further hinting that the link is still there) akin to the Empty Child’s bedroom scene. Amy is the one who realises because there isn’t a “reflection” of her because she has no Ganger.
The Gangers plan could have been to find a way to severe the neural link between them and their real selves. When their humane way doesn’t work they start picking off each of the real crew one by one.
Rory could have made a reference to the flesh being like donor meat or something, making Jennifer angry. He could be trying to convince her of other benefits for Gangers not realising they want to be treated the same as any other human.
Jennifer could get injured and he could have used medicine from a first aid kit or medical bay, but this just begins mutating her as medicine has an opposite effect on Gangers (or gives her fleshiness an adrenaline shot per sey, making her able to morph in a more tangible way to the other Gangers)
(Not sure if I like this suggestion) everyone’s consciousness could be collected in a database which gets transferred to the last of the flesh they have in a vat. Making a Clayface type villain that can’t speak or something (giving the game away) acting more animal than anything and constantly shapeshifting into each character. Picking them off one by one, at one point it’s replaced the Doctor making everyone question where the real one has gone. Maybe the Doctor connects his consciousness up and possesses everyone of the Gangers making them go to the same room? (First sign Amy’s a Ganger because she ends up there) But the energy he expells doing that makes him pass out, the characters have to solve it now without the Doctor. There could be something there perhaps? A moment like the Zygon Inversion speech or something.
Amy could be having the headaches because of all the interference instead of the boss lady (second sign she’s a Ganger)
When they’ve gotten away the Ganger “Sleeper Agent” we establish at the beginning could kill Amy at the end of the episode with an acid burn, the audience wouldn’t have known yet she’s a Ganger and would’ve given the shock ending more of the kick it might’ve needed. When she melts away, it cuts to the “pop” scene.
End.
These episodes really aren't a 3/10
2:55 Verrazano Narrows Bridge carrying Interstate 278 from Brooklyn to Staten Island (Brooklyn Queens Expressway and Belt/Shore Parkway to Staten Island Expressay). I have been on both levels several times.
I genuinely laughed my arse off out loud throughout this review. This was just after I stopped watching I think but my god this made my Saturday night, thank you 🤣🤣🤣
“That’s cringe”
That’s every time they drag on a “Matt smith funny” scene to me. Seriously, I hate it when they exaggerate this doctor to be a buffoon
Wow I always loved series 6 part 1 and you’ve absolutely massacred it. Hard disagree on a lot of your criticisms and very few objective issues being pointed out again. Your channel is becoming less reviews like the Jodie era and some early videos and just “I didn’t like this episode…sponsored by skillshare”. Slippery slope.
Biggest error: 21:20 the doctor sets up the call and you see him do it ffs. That’s just 1 of a calamity of errors in your critique. Come on Harry you are better than this.
yes, my god. Rory's relationship with Jenifer is soo weird.
Amy and Rory are married like wtf is going on
This episode made me so conscious of how i walked i was terrified as a child
it would have been better if the Flesh was a revamped Auton
The tardis stabilised the gangers so he won’t be turning into that thing when he’s with his son lmao
These episodes used to terrify me when I was younger.
I remember this terrifying when can still not whatch it just cause I do not want see it again
this is one of the few 2 parters I just couldn't be arsed to watch the second.
Yeah, the “gangers” were never a legitimate threat, nor did they have a point other than killing off the originals.
0:27 amogus
I actually disagree with this one. I rather enjoyed these episodes.
Honestly I don't know when this guy decides what is cringe and what is not. You'd think the 2 dimensional cartoon villain lady saying "Puuuuuuuush" would be stupid, but he calls it scary?
swear I remember this being better than though at 10 I guess that wall of eyes and Jenifer monster had enough of an effect to convince me otherwise
I actually enjoy this story but damn this review was hilarious
24:10 this was such a good twist; unreservedly disturbing
24:34 quality
I’m a massive fan of Dusty Springfield 😂
i honestly love a good man goes to war
24:35
love the italian job refrence
I personally loved this episode along with these comments, great video though!
This whole two parter feels like it was done better in that survival game "The Forest"
The continuity of the Sonic Screwdrivers in The Almost People really annoys me.
The family of blood would have been hundreds of years before not 4
These episodes used to fucking terrify me
Yet another nit pick
These episodes sucked. I remember having stomach cramps at the end because of how angry I was at it. I'm on your boat Harry.
The effects haven’t aged badly, they were terrible the day the episode was aired
Actually Curse of the Black Spot is a good episode
I've had about enough cloning on Doctor Who to last me a lifetime between Martha peeing cloned Mickey being cloned the doctor being cloned only two that weren't was is Rose and Pete other than that and Donna I've had about enough Chloe this is Doctor Who or Star Wars Attack of the Clones
This is officially the episode that made me give up on Doctor Who.
You have low standards
Why dose the Jennifer ganger still have human hair? It just looks 100 times faker