RV Black & Grey Tank Cleaning & Maintenance (LIES & MYTHS Exposed!)
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Chapters/Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:18 Meet Jim from Kleen Tank
01:27 1 Year Later - How Clean Are Our RV Holding Tanks?
02:19 How Clean Is My RV Black Tank After 1 Year Of Using Regular Toilet Paper?
03:28 RV Black Tank Jokes
04:09 Don't Be Afraid Of Your RV Holding Tanks
05:08 Kleen Tank Re-Cleaning My RV Holding Tanks
05:31 Does Pressure Washing Damage My RVs Holding Tanks?
06:51 What Are The Strangest Things RVers Flush Down The Toilet?
07:28 What is Struvite?
08:04 Why RVers Need To Use The Valterra Flush King
09:09 Save-a-Drop! Must Have RV Gadget!
09:55 Avoid This Big RV Mistake!
11:22 Where Does Kleen Tank Service RVs?
11:47 Toughest RV Black Tank Cleaning Ever!
12:22 Tank Clogs
13:25 What Valve Do You Open First?
RV Black or Grey Tank?
15:38 How Bad Are Our RV Black Tanks After 1 Year of Using Regular Toilet Paper (and no tank treatment)
15:50 RV Toilet Paper Sucks!
16:00 Should You Flush Toilet Paper In An RV?
17:23 Why Do You Find Mold In RV Grey Tanks?
20:32 How Do I Become A Kleen Tank Dealer?
20:55 How Bad Our RV Black Tank Was 1 Year Ago
21:20 How Often Should You Have An RVs Tanks Cleaned?
21:35 The Best Tool Any RVer Can Get!
21:57 RV Pro Tip! How To Use Disposable Gloves Emptying RV Holding Tanks
23:26 What About Using A Cassette Toilet In An RV?
24:03 Composting Toilet In An RV?
24:37 RV Bidet?
25:52 RV Myth:You Must Use RV Toilet Paper
26:32 Should I Use Bleach In My RV Holding Tanks?
27:20 RV Mistake! DO NOT Use An RV Tank Treatment or Additive
28:40 Do Not Waste Your Money On These RV Products!
28:55 How Should Part-Time RVers Manage Their Holding Tanks?
29:41 RV Myth! Leave Your Grey Tank Valve Open
30:28 Guess What We Found In Our RV Sewer Hose!?
32:27 Strange Things RVers Flush Down Their Toilets
37:06 Kleen Tanks Recommended DIY Tank Solution
38:32 Where Can I Find Calgon Ageless Bath Beads?
41:02 Does Kleen Tank Service Work With A Macerator?
42:49 How To Clear An RV Black Tank Clog
43:14 What If Someone Flushes A Can of Beer In RV Toilet?
44:02 What Is Our New RV Tank Grade?
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Jim is the RV scene's granddad. I get excited every time I see him in a video because I know he about to hit us all with some hard-hitting truths. Thanks for another amazing video full of useful advice.
I have been using the Pine-Sol/Calgon solution in my travel trailer since I bought it about 8 months ago. I couldn't be happier. No smells, no clogs, regular toilet paper from Sam's Club that is septic safe. I can't believe that people pay so much for septic chemicals and RV toilet paper. Thanks for educating me a year ago before I bought my first RV.
Me, too!🎉 💩
What is the recipe?
I've been using the same solution since buying our new RV a year ago. I still get my gages giving false readings. I don't do the flush king every time, though, because I'm not always on full hookup.
What is the recipe?
Hi what's a pine sol calgon solution?Ty
I've been a master plumber for decades. His advice is fantastic.
This is the best advice for RV tanks. We use the Kleen Tank solution and it works excellent. I don't ever want to use a product that creates a layer of sludge on the bottom of my tank.
Thanks Tom for sharing Jim and his work with us again!
Absolutely fantastic information! My wife and i are newbies to the RV world so all this is GREAT information. This gives me confidence in dealing with our black and grey tanks! thank you so much for these videos. Both the first one and this the latest version. Three A's is a pretty darn good grade, Tom!! Thanks to you and Jim! Great videos!
We recently had Kleen Tank clean the tanks on a new to us class a motorhome. The rv is four years old so we didn’t know what shape the tanks were in. We are very pleased with the results. I’ve been using the Calgon/Pine Sol solution and so far so good! I think that using a lot of water is the best advice.
Hi! I just had Stephen come clean my tanks last week after watching Jim in an older video on this channel. I'm afraid I got a C on my tanks. No super slow sludge, but still, my bad... my boyfriend and I are full timers in Sun City, AZ, and it had been two years since my last cleaning. I used Happy Camper and Scott's RV toilet paper. I'm excited to not have to use that toilet paper anymore, and I'm glad not to have buy more Happy Camper, that stuff isn't cheap.
Stephen was great! Very nice person, and very knowledgeable.
Being new to RVing this was the most helpful video I have seen in dealing with black and gray tanks.
We just found this ch and watched this master series for black tanks. We just got our new tt and we will be doing all of his mentions. Thank you for this awesome info and you got a new sub!
Used Kleen Tank about a year ago. Terrific! Must say that the sensors worked at first but eventually stopped registering properly. Still happy with the process and the Pinesol/Calgon mix.
We put 10 gallons of water in our tank, we only boomdock.. a little chemical and our tanks are clear and in good shape.. this guy is right on!!!!!!!
thank you so much for making this video, I`m new to camping and am going to take all the advice you gave. Great job!
After seeing your tanks Tom we are convinced to give regular toilet paper a try. We were avid believers in RV toilet paper and we always have been good about using lots of water. But after 4 years of use and doing regular black tank flushes and using toilet chemicals our sensors are no longer correct. We’re about to get a new RV and we’re going to give this a go, regular toilet paper, lots of water as we always have, and we’re going to use Jim’s recipe for solution and get a flush king and see how we do. Question, after reading the recipe on the website it says to use 4-8 oz each time you empty them but it doesn’t say if that’s based on tank size. We have a 53 gallon black tank and 2 53 gallon grey tanks. Great video and great info. How nice of Jim to share that recipe, it’s gonna save us a ton of money making his solution and using regular toilet paper!
Side note - we are in Canada and calgon bath pearls are easy to find on Amazon, even next day delivery.
Thank you so much your videos are always so educational
Just met Jim and His wife from kleen tank at splash RV resort in milton Florida.. very nice people. We have been using the Black tank Mixture since the last video too!!!
At the end of the season i always fill both tanks with hot water and dishwasher detergent and let it sit for a bit then drain. I had to drop my black tank so i took a look inside and it looked new. At that time the tank was 45 years old. I will try his additive this year and put a camera in the black tank to see how it looks.
An "Eye Opener" for me, fortunately for me I'm more of the weekend warrior so my tanks get emptied after each trip.
Sometimes it's a longer trip but I have small tanks, 18gal. each, so every three or four days they get emptied.
No problems yet and the sensors still work, I use "Unique" products because that seems to be working fine for now.
I have used pine sol, and 20 mule team detergent. I have not had a problem. And I was told of this by a RV dealer about 40 yeas ago. The 20 mule team is a very slick soap, and my sensors always work.
What's your recipe, as in quantity of each... Thanx in advance.
Wow! Funny enough...but we enjoyed this episode lol! He makes so much sense & is sooo logical TY❤
We will be attending the Grand Design rally in March at Myrtle Beach. And we have an appointment with Kleen Tank while we are there.
We had some try to clean our tanks they could not get into the grey tank because of the turn that our tanks has. We have an Arctic Fox. We did find some who did get into the grey tank I was amazed the amount of hair the came out of the tank. So glad I has someone eles do our tanks.
Not afraid of my tanks and tip for RV travelers! Maybe because #1, I started by using Pine Sol in both and 5 gal water in the black tank. And #2, I avoid all solids in the black tank. Since I use my 21DS mostly for traveling and visiting I decided to not put ANY solids into the black tank. I use campground facilities, rest stops, gas stations and restaurants as well as occasional boon and mooch-docking opportunities. Both tanks have a pleasant fragrance when dumping. Nos I use the Calgon/PineSol/Water mix recommended here.
We have an elongated porcelain toilet with a bidet. We love it. It makes a difference.
I’ve wondered about if getting one of those would save on TP but you still need to pat dry so what’s the point. I sure as heck am not using towels. Yuck!
If I ever flush a toilet and it blows up and sends sewage all over the bathroom and me I’m going back to pull-ups 😂😂
We have a 1998 pace arrow vision and have had two problems in all that time. We use them to boon dock the only times we had problems was when staying in camp grounds. We do not use additives and we use regular tp
I wish I had know this 2 years ago!
I bought a 2001 5th wheel from a coworker for $2,000.
He didn’t know anything about RVs and neither did I so I didn’t know about the valves on the tanks.
When I decided to buy a new travel trailer I started watching all these videos and just found out about a week ago about having to keep the valves closed. Now I’m extremely worried about how much damage has been done.
I ordered the Unique RV Digest-it plus and I’m hoping it works by Saturday (5 days) so the man who bought it (same $2,000 I paid) will not have a huge mess to deal with. Of course I’m going to tell him how ignorant I was about the tanks. He’s buying it to basically remodify it as a project.
Wish me luck.
I’m definitely more knowledgeable now and have learned a major lesson. Always research about what you don’t know, first.
In all of my tests with toilet paper I have found the CHARMEN ultra strong breaks down faster then the RV brands. I used to be a strong user of only RV brands, and when i ran the four sheet test in water for a week, found out with in a day the CHARMEN was breaking down in just a few hours, the RV brands did not break down fully in a week.
That toilet paper picture is the best.😅😅
I use the Flush King every time!
Even an inexpensive ($20) bidet from amazon can save lots of tp and can actually save water because you don't have to shower as often. It simply mounts between the toilet seat and bowl where the 2 bolts are that secures the seat. Then a 1/2"x1/2"x3/8" sharkbite tee is spliced into the toilet water supply pex.
I am definitely using this solution in my tanks from day one when we pick up our new rv. We used drop in chemicals in our previous rig. No major problems, but I'm sure it would be a grade of F if we would have been had it professionally cleaned.
I do have a question, what about an rv with a maserator? Does the maceration get clogged easier?
We had a cassette toilet in a previous camper. Worked good but it was small and had to dump every day. Handy though if there's no dump station you can dump it into a toilet or a portapotti.
Do you have any problems with your tank sensors anymore? Are they more accurate since doing this method?
Thanks for the training video. I will watch it again but you said that the owner will need to have to clean the black/gray tanks again. Is this determined by gallons per tank, hours/mileage after the initial cleaning was done ?
Thanks for talkin S#!t
Good info. Been having these debates for some time.
What recommendations do you have for winter storage?
Unless I missed it which I may have. Were the sensors still working after close to a year using the Calgon/Pine sol solution.
Could ask him about the remote dump valve maintenance. Ours has been replaced and worked very well for about 5-6 months but now you think the handle will pull off trying to open it. Any tips ? Thanks
Hey Guys, Not sure when you will see Jim again, what about long-term storage? (8 months over the summer in FL)
Hey Tom, I was just wondering with your tanks being this clean after a year of use... did the tank sensors continue working accurately throughout this entire period?
Question any of the calgon bath beads I can only find the lavender moisturizing kind
Does Kleen Tanks have service in Quartzsite, Arizona?
Will using Calgon water softener in liquid laundry section okay to use instead of bath beads?
I love this. people have always said you need to dissolve
and I thought that was stupid
and this proves me right.
makes sense, holding tanks. not. septic tanks.
when I leave a full service. I fill and dump the black 5 times.
why not? lol.grey twice.
mabey 3 time until I see no soap suds
keep these coming.
most people don't understand plumbing is the number 1 luxury of rving
Why not? Because of water shortages in many areas.
What’s the consensus on a combined black/gray tank? That’s what we have although we haven’t used it yet. It seems like it would keep the solids much more emulsified with sink and shower soaps
Did he check the water heater diode rod ? Just curious what it looked like after a year. Thanks for all the videos with Jim
Sacrificial anoid.
The distraction lesson also applies to filling your Fresh Water Tank.
Question, We live in TX and our HEB does not carry Calgon. Will other brands work?
I run the One Control app and watch the tank level when flushing
We want to know if your sensors have been working well please
We had Kleen Tank clean our tanks a year ago but within 3 months our sensors were already not reading again. We also used the Pine Sol/Calhoun mixture and it hasn’t kept things clean. We also use the fFush King system every few cleanings. I just don’t understand why it works for some RV’s and not for others. I know we have some weird angles for the hook ups for the Flush King. The Kleen Tank gentleman had a hard time hooking up all his equipment because of our set up. 😂
What is the make an d model of your rv
I had no problem finding Calgon in Canada.
I always wanted to know about where to get the Calgon. There are different kinds.
I found the bath pearls on Amazon
Can you use the concentrated pine sol?
What is the Calgon Pine-Sol ratio
How did you break your fender flair?
can calgon laundry detergent be used? I thought it had to be a water softener?
Geo method half cup borax half cup of blue dawn
What's the pine sol, calgon, water ratio?
Will a white vinegar rinse from time to time be helpful or harmful?
It would be really helpful if Jim (or you) could use a % of tank capacity (Black and Grey) for how much water to travel with in each tank and also % of tank capacity for how much to "Prime" (using the PineSol/Cagon/Water solution) the tanks with. At one point Jim mentions 5 - 10 gallons for "traveling" and 3 -5 gallons for "Priming", but there's a wide range of tank capacities in modern trailer models. So, a % would be most helpful Thank you.
Do you put your tank solution in the gray tank too?
Thought you guys were using Liquified
How do you handle cleaning on campers that do not travel
So, what is the recipe? How much Pinesol and how much Calgon?
When you are at an electric only site like I mostly am, putting the tp in a trash can saves tons of water. My freshwater tank is only 38 gallons, so I cannot flush with plenty of water. You have to adapt to your situation.
Judging from the damage on your wheel skirt, I am assuming that you had a tire blowout?
We have had our Rv for about 3 months but the smell is so bad when the air conditioner is running… I’ve changed the air admittance and flush the roof vent I don’t know what else to try
What about the incinerate toilet, they used them in Eroupe.
The black tank in our trailer holds only 20 gallons. Jim is saying put 5-10 gallons of water in the tank for travel days. If we put 10 gallons in that is 50% of our capacity. That seems excessive. We have been putting 2-3 gallons in after we dump. Your thoughts?
I think he’s assuming at the end of your travel day you will dump that since it’s only meant for cleaning. Then you reload with 3-5 gal. Those numbers really should be related to tank size and shape. I think the idea is that everything you put in later will float.
In the first he said 5-10g. On 20s I'd maybe bump that 3 to 5. Compare it and see if you're having cleaner tanks when you get to a site and dump the initial 3g and then compare to 5g.
How much water to use when you flush?
of course it is a fresh clean tank you had the tank power cleaned a year ago. Keep using his method but also keep paying to come out and keep your tanks clear at least once a year.
I used kleen tank because of your video so thank you
Can dude wipes be put down into the tank? They say they are Rv safe.
Has anyone mentioned using borax, dawn, and 5 gallons of water before you travel so all the sloshing loosens everything.
I’ve used nothing by Cottonelle for 10 yrs. No problems ever. We use a Sewer Solution at home after every trip. We dump at parks before we leave, and put a bit of water in the black. Occasionally we’ve dumped in a bottle of Calgon and a cup of Dawn and 20 lbs ice. Nary a clog or smell. But the grey ! Watch out for garlic. Don’t wash dishes without wiping off any alliums.
Well crap (no pun intended!) I bought and used the Calgon beads instead of the pearls. Will it not be as effective? I hate to throw out a whole gallon! Guess I could use it to clean other things!
noy a septic tank is a good point. But what if your connected to a campground that uses a septic system and not a city system. wont the normal paper etc damage their system.
Can't ya use some dove liquid soap at all times to keep it nice and soapy and cleanish?
One thing we do when we are boondocking / dry camping at sporting events is to save space in gray tank is dump our dishwashing water down the toilet. There’s always lots of soap in that water and an occasional noodle or string bean. Not putting cooking related water in the gray but only using that tank to hold shower, bathing, etc, means no bad smells in gray.
Has anyone used the Great Value 2X Multi Purpose Cleaner in place of the Pine Sol. Saves a lot of money. I was the one using the RV chemicals and not flushing toilet paper. I hated it. So I’m changing. I live on Social Security in my 39’ 5th wheel. So saving money is a goal.
I don’t think my RV can handle my TURDS 💩
There are MASSIVE logs 🪵
What to do?
I’d say A
I really missing the videos on your journeys. This info is great, but the pretty much the same stuff for the last 3 to 4 weeks.
if an rv had a marine boat toilet it would grind every thing up and add water at same time.. question is... Why dont they go that route ??????
Oops found my answer
Toilet paper. I have seen many dump stations drain inlets/plugs clogged with toilet paper. If not caught early on, the waste will back up and flood the site, making it unusable. So I am not sure if toilet paper that disoles or not to put toilet paper in black tank is the answer.
NRVTA says use treatments, maybe do a video with them explaining which is the correct way. Getting two different stories here.
Exactly what I was thinking!!
Maybe the toad was hiding from the snake.
I've dropped an aircraft deodorant tab down my toilet, from time to time...how bad is that?
Well, that’s a bunch of sh!t… 😂😂
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Cassette toilets? They're nothing new... Popups have had them for decades. Ising them in a teavel trailer? Pointless. 5-7 gallons isnt much compared to a 30+gallon holding tank. Holding tank is a WAY better option.
"Promosm"
Woody from Toy Story in real life
You only showed 20 seconds of cleaning and no flushing. Seems like some editing was done.
Informative video, but touching his face/glasses with those contaminated gloves is kind of disgusting. I would also decontaminate the handles and surrounding area after he's done...lol. Cross contamination is real.
I believe you will get a grade of B
Commercial black tank chemicals are for odor only not solid breakdown. Also no such thing as RV toilet paper per the owner of the largest supplier...I know him personally
You could say he knows sh!t about RV's