Thank you for the informative video. You mentioned a “Hormone Therapy Masterclass” stating the link is on the Pema Bioidentical site but I am unable to find this link. I am member of Health Span Nation. Would the link be there too?
It’s all about money. Was diagnosed with osteoporosis about 6 years ago. I’m in my 50’s and I refused to take the drugs as they have given my mum crepey bones. I asked the doctor what natural paths could I take re exercise and nutrition and she said she could advise me.. The doctors aren’t trained in nutrition which is absolutely madness!!! I’ve never taken any drugs, not been invited for any more scans. I’ve been dropped off the NHS list as I won’t comply! If I die of a broken hip as I was told might happen then so be it! I could be run over by a bus.. Take vitamins D3 & K2 (combined), eat calcium rich foods, stand in your patio and jump and skip and buy yourself a rebounder (mini tramp).. it’s called DIY!
Thank you for your story but this does not work for everyone. Millions of people myself included take those drugs. We build back our bones and we refuse the risk of fractures.
I just started HRT at age 70 (.0375 patch and progesterone). The estrogen was making me miserable with PMS symptoms. I switched to .025 patches and the awful symptoms disappeared. I did give the higher dose a 3 month trial and I hated it. I'm much more comfortable with the lower dose. I hope it helps my bones.
I started the same estrogen 0.0375 patch and progesterone. I stopped the patch after 1 month, because I noticed rapid heart rate after applying it. It did dissipate but it was unsettling. No problem with the progesterone. Not sure if that is a common side effect of estrogen.
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Hi. I have 0.425 loss in my lower spine. Appointment with consultant tomorrow, he will no doubt offer drugs, unable to take fosmax. Started doing weight bearing and resistant exercises, which can be hampered as I have a hiatus hernia. Have ordered a power personal vibration plate( power plate move smaller version) . I have always been active but not so much weight/ resistance training, now I do it 3,4 or 5 days if I can since diagnosed 6 months ago. Do you think I can improve even with 32% loss in my lower 4 vertebrae without drug treatment?? Oh I am 60 and never took HRT.
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I have been asking for HRT for years (I’m 70). Now have osteoporosis. I had breast CA and NO physician will prescribe it for me. Is there any hope to reverse this with diet exercise and supplements? I’ve increased my dairy & protein, take K2, Magnesium and Boron daily. I go to OsteoStrong every week. I feel doomed😕
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I understand your situation. Doctors are terrified of estrogen if you've had breast cancer. I even tried to get my doctor to prescribe progesterone, but No. So I order progesterone from amazon, Karuna Pure Natural Progesterone Cream for men and women. I also take DHEA, which will help for bones. I had one doctor recommend taking DHEA when I asked him if he would prescribe testosterone cream for my bones. Low DHEA levels, I have read, also are indicated in osteoporosis. I had been taking bioidentical hormones up until I was diagnosed with breast cancer, and then, of course, my doctor would no longer prescribe them for me. My bone scan (after I was taken off bioidentical hormones) showed "Lumbar density shows a very large decline of 12.4%." Just be your own doctor. Get the Karuna Pure progesterone and take DHEA 25 mg. I also lift weights and walk every day, and eat well, protein, yogurt, etc. and vegetables. But the calcium in vegetables is mostly unused for bone health because of phytates, etc.
@ Thanks for replying! Definitely worth researching. Years ago I asked many Dr.’s about biodentical hormones. They said my body would recognize them just like they would estrogen and the risk is the same. So frustrating. I never wanted to take matters into my own hands but I have never felt the like myself with literally no estrogen or testosterone in my system. Energy has never been right. I feel terrible. Now osteoporosis. Thanks again for the info! Looking into it for sure!
The doctor who told me to take DHEA also told me that if he were to prescribe hormones for me, he could lose his license. So they do have real concerns. He is a very good doctor; my daughter goes to him and he helps with her hormones.
@@rosemarie9956Resistant exercises in water will help strengthen your muscles, as will swimming, which helps to support the skeleton but it is still not weight bearing or impacting and so does not have any influence on bone strengthening.
I’ve heard that stomping is good to stimulate bone growth. Do you think stomping in a pool would also work? I have bad feet so I can only do Hydro exercises.
Think about the ways that one feels physically and mentally better for swimming. We know it's beneficial. I was recovering from a long illness with swimming. Even though I wasn't vigorous I improved my respiratory capacity and physical stamina with increasing laps in a few weeks. I was happy and relaxed afterwards. One day I tried to follow the cardiovascular water exercises with a 45 min class. I didn't last 10 minutes. My hat's off to those senior women. But, bones lay down new cells with impact exercises and weight bearing. Also, a balanced body regularly sweeps out so to speak, old bone cells. A beautiful thing how alive our bones are. We can do both styles of exercise. Dancing like square dance and contra where one does alot of sustained bouncing is a fun way to get impact. Lifting weights can take many forms in a home life. I'll go with his recomendations over fosomax anyday.
Hi dr. Thanks for your information. My question I have protein in my urine because of hydro nephrosis. Can I still eat adequate amount of protein. I stopped eating animal protein and very little sea protein and plant base protein. I’m so confused
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Get you a mini trampoline! (Rebounder) That’s what I use and there’s even studies that show positive results, even NASA has an article on it. Just look it up on TH-cam 🤓 😉
I’ve heard Prof. Tim Spector saying that skipping 2 mins a day is equal to 45 mins of strength training. I’m doing both. Plus yoga is super helpful for coordination, balance and flexibility. All this should make our bones a lot stronger and healthier
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Dr Barrie Tan said his products tocotrienal and GG help bone health but no specifics on how to take it. Should we take Calcium, D3, k2, tocotrienol, GG together with a meal that contains fat? How long before we can eat an item with Vit E that contains Tocopheryl which Dr Tan says blocks Tocotrienol? If you can get answers to these questions, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Just saw endocrinologist in Texas. He said HRT not used in US for osteoporosis (my sister lives in France and is prescribed it). Instead, I’ve been advised to go with the annual Reclast infusion for five years. This seems to be the Mayo Clinic advice. I was surprised that HRT wasn’t even up for discussion, although it could be due to the absence of flushes in my case.
Hormonal dosing is time consuming by the very nature of how personalized it must be to individual chemistry. Even those trained in it have trouble fine tuning what serves each woman best. There are so many variables of what could be wrong in a complex physiological system that produces and regulates hormones. What American medical service will tackle it? Ideally, everyday we commit to our health for longevity and quality of life with the tools we have at hand. Today is the best day of our lives. We can't let the expediency of the profit making American medical model suspend our personal agency to seek and question.
@@Candleflower42-zp3shit may be because I don’t have other symptoms and the risks of HRT outweigh the benefits. I see that Mayo recommends it when other treatments, such as Reclast, can’t be tolerated. Like you, my sister swears by HRT, but she had sweats, flashes, etc.
@@fionaann88 I’m 71 and never had symptoms either. Put on HRT around 60. Lost a lot of bone in decade from 50 to 60. Age 67 fell and broke femur. Hadn’t had a DEXA in 7 years - no change at all, and I’ve got fibromyalgia and lots of fatigue, in bed a lot, so the HRT had to be what kept my bones stable. Bone density is extremely important but of course totally up to you.
@@Candleflower42-zp3shthanks for the info and sorry to hear you’ve faced additional difficulties. I’ve just recently been diagnosed, so I may seek out a physician who specializes exclusively in osteoporosis if things don’t improve over the next 12 months with weight lifting, dietary changes, marodyne, AlgaeCal Plus, Reclast. Thanks again for taking the time to replay and good luck with your health!
That’s my question too. I have a weight vest ( 12-15 lb ) and want to know if walking with it would help. I have bone loss in my hip joint. I also have access to a Jacob’s ladder and would a weighted vest on that help even more?
I had 10 years ago a breast cancer hormonal dependant. I did not take any med or treatements for it except a surgery. I don’ t take any medication, don’t smoke or dring(even soda), not vegetarian. I weight 110lbs and 5.6. Diagnosed -1.6spine and -2.5 left hip and -2.6 femoral. I don’t want to take fosamax. May HRT be given to me?
@@joseeprince4704 check out Susan Hardwick Smith a popular OB/GYN in Houston. I’d guess her answer would be yes, but she’s the MD specialist and has many videos you can check out.
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Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you found the information about protein valuable. I’ll definitely keep everyone updated if there are any changes or new insights to share. Your support means a lot!
Can I start HRT at 67? I did start vaginal estrogen tabs a few years ago. Also started taking Fosemax because of some osteoporosis in my spine. new Dexa scan showed no osteoporosis just osteopenia. I do weight lifting 3 days a week, increased protein intake and walk daily with a weighted vest. Should I stop the fosimax?
At some point the bill comes due with Fosomax. It stops the natural process of the body shedding old bone cells as new ones grow. Studies are showing that F makes bones denser, but over time they are rigid and prone to shattering. And jawbone loss can also be a consequence. Your nutrition and exercise improvements have likely improved your bone health despite taking F. Tapering off and quitting it is worth investigating. Any medicine that dramatically negates a natural healthy biological process is suspect and of course has consequences. This you tuber has interesting vids on tests other than DEXA for more accurate personal data.
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I understand how frustrating that can feel! Health costs can be a barrier, but there are often practical steps we can take for wellness that don’t require a big budget. We're here to share knowledge to help people navigate these options, no matter their resources. Thank you for highlighting this important perspective!
I believe it's important not to be dogmatic and see what works for you. For me I took two years to slowly work up to a .1 estradiol patch, I check blood serum and get numbers between 80-100 so this works great for me. Its bioidentical patch Estradot. I agree with the bioidentical protester one and even cyclical as a great idea. For two years I tried every way possible to tolerate bioidentical progesterone... Skin cream from compounded pharmacy, then pill form, vaginally cream, then pill vaginally, starting very low dose to work up and I got intolerable psych symptoms, cognitive impairment, insomnia, and tachycardia. I tried synthetic progestin orally to see if I tolerated better because you can't take estradiol without some form of progesterone or you can get endometrial cancer, if you have a womb still. My obgyn was very concerned about endometrial cancer when not on enough progesterone, he's seen some very bad stuff. I tried low dose progestin then cycled for 12 days and all just debilitated me. My endo and obgyn both suggested the Mirena progestin IUD and for two years I refused bc it's synthetic and I wanted only bioidentical. I decided to try Duavee first which has a SERM and kept a. 25 estradiol patch on and intolerable. I didn't take anything but estradiol for 3 months and had to get a D and C and my obgyn placed the Mirena....now my lining is protected from cancer while I take the level of estradiol I need for my bones to rebuild. My bone densities the last two years both had improvements and I'm now out of the severe osteoporosis diagnosis. I can't wait to see what this year's shows. I went from debilitated to lifting weights, taking Zumba, pilates, and walking daily. I have Marodyne and take fortibone collagen and aim to eat one gram of protein per ideal body weight... I get close most days. My whole body has gotten strong and pain is gone and I recheck my body composition dexa in december. I was sold on bioidentical creams being the gold standard but you have to find what you can do and tolerate. I'm willing to have the Mirena to be able to stay on estrogen. The Mirena IUD is the only form of a progesterone/progestin I can tolerate. Just like I do in my field of work I believe one size does not fit all and being too dogmatic can be a disservice.
Thank you for sharing your detailed journey! It’s so important to find what truly works for you, and I admire your perseverance in exploring different options. Your experience highlights the complexity of hormone therapy and the necessity of personalized approaches. It’s wonderful to hear that you’re seeing improvements in your bone density and overall well-being after all your hard work. Your commitment to staying active with weightlifting, Zumba, and Pilates is inspiring! Here’s to continued progress, and I look forward to hearing about your DEXA results in December!
@@Dr_DougLucas thank you! I'll update as I do my body composition Dexa in December and my bone density at HSS in NYC in June. I'm 48 and there is no way I'm not building back. I visualize strong bones and I'm also a woman of faith in Jesus and know from personal experience all things are possible. Our bodies are awe inspiring self healing and wonderfully made! I continue to find the line of adding weight and stress to strengthen with avoiding injury. I have had set backs but never give up. It is so worth it. I had POI and didn't get to be on hormones.. My case was mismanaged initially rhen I had a fracture and found out what was going on and refused IV evenity or some other bone drug and I am soooo glad I did. I'm believing I can gain back all until normal. Look, if you don't believe you can, you won't. I believe I can.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING your experience and journey!! I see myself in you and will use it as inspiration for my journey back to strong bones from a severe OP diagnosis. I, too, want to do it without the hard bone drugs and believe Christ, as the Great Physician, can turn this around regardless of what I do. I used to LOVE weight training but after a family tragedy I cocooned and fell hard into a sedentary life for 10 years which is when I developed severe OP. I need to get my life back and start a resistance training program bigtime!!! I looked into the Marodyn LiV (spelling?) vibration plate a year ago and couldn't take the $3-4 grand hit... but I so want it and have been budgeting for it. I haven't done HRT. 😬 Clearly, I need to find an informed physician to guide me in the right ways and see what's working for me. May God bless you richly on your healing journey. Keep up the great work!! I will try to watch out for your update in a year or so. ..... hopefully, God willing, my journey will be a success as well. 🙏🕊❤️
@@rachelk3010 finding a physician to work with who is informed like this is vital. I did a ton of research 3 years ago when I got the diagnosis and read journal articles. This channel didn't exist then so I found a research study that showed women with POI put in full hormone replacement. Including a. 1 estradiol patch had regained to normal density within three years. Yes my loss was worse and I was not put on hormones as soon as they were... And they were a little younger than me but so what... Why not me also... And I knew I had to get on hormones. I did my own research on the women's health initiative and now many doctors speak out against it but hardly any did publically 3 years ago. Thank God things are changing. My opinion is hormones are way more important than the marodyne. Also I got a cheaper one refurbished. I also felt it was most useful when I was still sick and immobile. I was severely ill for 12 years and used a wheelchair and was bedridden, which along with the loss of hormones put me in the severe OP dx. Like the woman with the blood issue that Jesus healed after 12 years I also have a miraculous story of healing. This osteoporosis is the fall out from all of that, but it also is being reversed and healed. My ability to be active again, be able to walk again... I had to do lots to gain my life back... Lots of little steps into freedom... Patience and never giving up. Seeing myself thriving and well and using my body fully... Mindset is so important. Faith. Not using age as a limitation or even identifying too closely with a diagnosis. Every diagnosis I had there was no cure for and I'm healed. Now my bones are healing also. My goal is to be in the best shape of my life when I turn 50, and I have been in some great shape up until I got ill. I was a dancer and lifted weights and ran in my 20's...swam...had good muscle...and was not overweight nor underweight. But I believe I can be even stronger now. I eat much better now with protein and I so value my health and my body now. Stay committed and you can do this... God is a miracle worker and we do out part with the wisdom gained from our research, people like Dr. Doug, and by caring for our body, soul, and spirit. Getting out of a chronic stress response was vital for me. Laughing and dancing... Even when I couldn't stand... Were massively healing. Worshipping God and singing and mostly His Word... The Bible... Fed me spiritually when I was ill for so long and sustained me. It truly is life. I became closer to God and through my journey truly understand the whole point of life. I healed from the inside out and have become a new person. I believe God will lead you to the right doctor, or at least one who will read the research you bring to them and agree to the plan you'd like to have. I kept asking God and He led me to an endocrinologist in NYC who fully agreed with me and had read the studies I had and she's the one who said. 1 patch is the goal, let's see how close we can get. An obgyn is essential also because they know things like watching your lining and making sure you don't take unapposssd estrogen which can grow endometrial lining cancer. I pray God leads you to the right team. Get the foundation going... Close as you can to 1 gram of protein per pound of your ideal body weight... Although I usually get to about 100g a day. I also get my calcium from real food and only supplement if I'm lower than 1200mg that day. I eat no sugar and only on occasion a stevia homemade chocolate or something like that. Reduce stress and have more fun laughter and dancing in life. This reduces cortisol which when too high can harm out bones and lots more. I feel the supplements and the marodyne and even fortibone collagen are just icing on the cake. Slowly increase your exercise and most important is weight lifting. I was so weak and atrophied after 12 years I started with 2 lb weights for my arms and learned how to do squats and dead lifts from the Buff Bones subscription... Which also strengthened my core. I did all of this first and slowly built up over time. I'm now lifting 13 pound dumbells and started to do pull ups and push ups now. I do squats holding 56 pounds and deadlifts with 15 pound dumbells in each hand. Bit by by I'm getting there. My first zumba class I barely moved and I made everything low impact. This week I was upfront leading with the instructor. I still don't do big jumpy things... But I am starting to skip on my walks for just 15 seconds the walk again.. Anyway, its a journey and I wish at the start I had someone like Dr. Doug. I had to figure it out on my own and I was so scared at diagnosis, I thought I could break a vertebrae if I moved the wrong way. My journey has helped me to trust and know my body and I don't do foolish things but I continue to find the line and push it a little. I know when I need a rest day or more.
Your insightful words and incredible story is a huge blessing to me and I thank God for you!! ❤🙏 I am extremely grateful for all your valuable input, thoughtful advice, and intercessory prayers for my healing journey. I will definitely take much of your advice and run with it! Thank you, again, for being so very helpful and kind. Praise God Almighty for all that He's done in and for you! What amazing testimonies you have; I'm so happy to hear you've gotten your life back and on a solid road beyond recovery towards thriving. I truly pray to have the proper mindset, consistency with positive habits, and determination to take all the steps He guides me through. 🙏🕊💝 ✝️
Thank you for the informative video. You mentioned a “Hormone Therapy Masterclass” stating the link is on the Pema Bioidentical site but I am unable to find this link. I am member of Health Span Nation. Would the link be there too?
Thank-you. I do not see a link for the master class.
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Thank you for the informative video. You mentioned a “Hormone Therapy Masterclass” stating the link is on the Pema Bioidentical site but I am unable to find this link. I am member of Health Span Nation. Would the link be there too?
It’s all about money. Was diagnosed with osteoporosis about 6 years ago. I’m in my 50’s and I refused to take the drugs as they have given my mum crepey bones. I asked the doctor what natural paths could I take re exercise and nutrition and she said she could advise me.. The doctors aren’t trained in nutrition which is absolutely madness!!!
I’ve never taken any drugs, not been invited for any more scans. I’ve been dropped off the NHS list as I won’t comply!
If I die of a broken hip as I was told might happen then so be it! I could be run over by a bus..
Take vitamins D3 & K2 (combined), eat calcium rich foods, stand in your patio and jump and skip and buy yourself a rebounder (mini tramp).. it’s called DIY!
Weighted vest for walking as well. Those drugs are dangerous.
Thank you for your story but this does not work for everyone. Millions of people myself included take those drugs. We build back our bones and we refuse the risk of fractures.
Thank you for sharing this!
agree. doing once a month and it numbs me up worse than i am.
Agree with you and I’m a doctor :(
I just started HRT at age 70 (.0375 patch and progesterone). The estrogen was making me miserable with PMS symptoms. I switched to .025 patches and the awful symptoms disappeared. I did give the higher dose a 3 month trial and I hated it. I'm much more comfortable with the lower dose. I hope it helps my bones.
I started the same estrogen 0.0375 patch and progesterone. I stopped the patch after 1 month, because I noticed rapid heart rate after applying it. It did dissipate but it was unsettling. No problem with the progesterone. Not sure if that is a common side effect of estrogen.
@@sandymiller7986 Have you looked into the lower dose patch?
@@jbmg28 estrogen has to be at a certain level for bone protection
@@1965stockportI’m on a 1.0 mg bioidentical estradiol and 225 mg progesterone. Is that sufficient for bone health?
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What about those on a estrogen blocker due to breast cancer?
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Super interesting! Thanks so much!
Thank you for watching!
If you get a hormone replacement, will it put you at high risk of stroke?
Another excellent video!
Thank you for watching!
Hi. I have 0.425 loss in my lower spine. Appointment with consultant tomorrow, he will no doubt offer drugs, unable to take fosmax. Started doing weight bearing and resistant exercises, which can be hampered as I have a hiatus hernia. Have ordered a power personal vibration plate( power plate move smaller version) . I have always been active but not so much weight/ resistance training, now I do it 3,4 or 5 days if I can since diagnosed 6 months ago. Do you think I can improve even with 32% loss in my lower 4 vertebrae without drug treatment?? Oh I am 60 and never took HRT.
It sounds like you're taking proactive steps to improve your bone health, which is great!
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Can you please give your expert advice on OsteoStrong? I have a location in my town and am considering joining.
Hi! Checkout the video on my channel called "OsteoStrong and Bone Health An Interview with Dr John Jaquish"
I have been asking for HRT for years (I’m 70). Now have osteoporosis. I had breast CA and NO physician will prescribe it for me. Is there any hope to reverse this with diet exercise and supplements? I’ve increased my dairy & protein, take K2, Magnesium and Boron daily. I go to OsteoStrong every week. I feel doomed😕
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I understand your situation. Doctors are terrified of estrogen if you've had breast cancer. I even tried to get my doctor to prescribe progesterone, but No. So I order progesterone from amazon, Karuna Pure Natural Progesterone Cream for men and women. I also take DHEA, which will help for bones. I had one doctor recommend taking DHEA when I asked him if he would prescribe testosterone cream for my bones. Low DHEA levels, I have read, also are indicated in osteoporosis. I had been taking bioidentical hormones up until I was diagnosed with breast cancer, and then, of course, my doctor would no longer prescribe them for me. My bone scan (after I was taken off bioidentical hormones) showed "Lumbar density shows a very large decline of 12.4%." Just be your own doctor. Get the Karuna Pure progesterone and take DHEA 25 mg. I also lift weights and walk every day, and eat well, protein, yogurt, etc. and vegetables. But the calcium in vegetables is mostly unused for bone health because of phytates, etc.
@ Thanks for replying! Definitely worth researching. Years ago I asked many Dr.’s about biodentical hormones. They said my body would recognize them just like they would estrogen and the risk is the same. So frustrating. I never wanted to take matters into my own hands but I have never felt the like myself with literally no estrogen or testosterone in my system. Energy has never been right. I feel terrible. Now osteoporosis. Thanks again for the info! Looking into it for sure!
Vitamin D is really important, too. OsteoStrong should help considerably.
The doctor who told me to take DHEA also told me that if he were to prescribe hormones for me, he could lose his license. So they do have real concerns. He is a very good doctor; my daughter goes to him and he helps with her hormones.
I’m just curious…why is swimming worse for bones? I’m not a swimmer but I was surprised to hear this about swim. Very informative..thank you!
same reason astronauts lose bone in a weightless environment
Interesting but you can do resistance exercises while in the pool - there are a few very good ones
@@rosemarie9956Resistant exercises in water will help strengthen your muscles, as will swimming, which helps to support the skeleton but it is still not weight bearing or impacting and so does not have any influence on bone strengthening.
I’ve heard that stomping is good to stimulate bone growth. Do you think stomping in a pool would also work? I have bad feet so I can only do Hydro exercises.
Think about the ways that one feels physically and mentally better for swimming. We know it's beneficial. I was recovering from a long illness with swimming. Even though I wasn't vigorous I improved my respiratory capacity and physical stamina with increasing laps in a few weeks. I was happy and relaxed afterwards. One day I tried to follow the cardiovascular water exercises with a 45 min class. I didn't last 10 minutes. My hat's off to those senior women.
But, bones lay down new cells with impact exercises and weight bearing. Also, a balanced body regularly sweeps out so to speak, old bone cells. A beautiful thing how alive our bones are.
We can do both styles of exercise. Dancing like square dance and contra where one does alot of sustained bouncing is a fun way to get impact. Lifting weights can take many forms in a home life.
I'll go with his recomendations over fosomax anyday.
So how do I protect my bones if I have estrogen positive breast cancer (no hrt!) and I also have bad knees?
HRT is not automatically ruled out these days with the bio identical transdermal patches and gels available.
@@RedDragon-eh8hxI would never use any type of estrogen if I'd already had estrogen positive breast cancer! I don't care what any doctor says.
Hi! Checkout the video on my channel called "Does Estrogen Cause Breast Cancer or Build Bone?? What the research got WRONG!"
@@ejhaqqi6480 someone (?) removed my comment. I'm an RN and would never take estrogen if I had breast cancer. Progesterone , yes, estrogen, no!
Hi dr. Thanks for your information. My question I have protein in my urine because of hydro nephrosis. Can I still eat adequate amount of protein. I stopped eating animal protein and very little sea protein and plant base protein. I’m so confused
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Around 5.00... discussion of estrogen and impact on bone density
Thank you for sharing
Would you recommend hopping or skipping ?
All good. Add country dancing!😊
Get you a mini trampoline! (Rebounder) That’s what I use and there’s even studies that show positive results, even NASA has an article on it. Just look it up on TH-cam 🤓 😉
I’ve heard Prof. Tim Spector saying that skipping 2 mins a day is equal to 45 mins of strength training. I’m doing both. Plus yoga is super helpful for coordination, balance and flexibility. All this should make our bones a lot stronger and healthier
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What do you consider a low dose patch? The standard 0.05 estradiol?
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Is there a link for the HRT master class?
@mellocello187 I see the one for the Bone Foundations masterclass but not a specific one for HRT??
Go to the Pema Bioidentical one. Masterclass Registration.
@annetteb6119 thanks!
Hi! Yes, you can find it here --> www.pemabioidentical.com/masterclass
Dr Barrie Tan said his products tocotrienal and GG help bone health but no specifics on how to take it. Should we take Calcium, D3, k2, tocotrienol, GG together with a meal that contains fat? How long before we can eat an item with Vit E that contains Tocopheryl which Dr Tan says blocks Tocotrienol? If you can get answers to these questions, I would greatly appreciate it.
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It's fat soluble so yes, take it with meal with fats. Take it all after a meal, I do.
Just saw endocrinologist in Texas. He said HRT not used in US for osteoporosis (my sister lives in France and is prescribed it). Instead, I’ve been advised to go with the annual Reclast infusion for five years. This seems to be the Mayo Clinic advice. I was surprised that HRT wasn’t even up for discussion, although it could be due to the absence of flushes in my case.
Hormonal dosing is time consuming by the very nature of how personalized it must be to individual chemistry. Even those trained in it have trouble fine tuning what serves each woman best. There are so many variables of what could be wrong in a complex physiological system that produces and regulates hormones. What American medical service will tackle it? Ideally, everyday we commit to our health for longevity and quality of life with the tools we have at hand. Today is the best day of our lives. We can't let the expediency of the profit making American medical model suspend our personal agency to seek and question.
there are lots of doctors prescribing HRT for bones. It has certainly helped mine.
@@Candleflower42-zp3shit may be because I don’t have other symptoms and the risks of HRT outweigh the benefits. I see that Mayo recommends it when other treatments, such as Reclast, can’t be tolerated. Like you, my sister swears by HRT, but she had sweats, flashes, etc.
@@fionaann88 I’m 71 and never had symptoms either. Put on HRT around 60. Lost a lot of bone in decade from 50 to 60. Age 67 fell and broke femur. Hadn’t had a DEXA in 7 years - no change at all, and I’ve got fibromyalgia and lots of fatigue, in bed a lot, so the HRT had to be what kept my bones stable. Bone density is extremely important but of course totally up to you.
@@Candleflower42-zp3shthanks for the info and sorry to hear you’ve faced additional difficulties. I’ve just recently been diagnosed, so I may seek out a physician who specializes exclusively in osteoporosis if things don’t improve over the next 12 months with weight lifting, dietary changes, marodyne, AlgaeCal Plus, Reclast. Thanks again for taking the time to replay and good luck with your health!
Would walking with a ruck vest be beneficial for bone density?
That’s my question too. I have a weight vest ( 12-15 lb ) and want to know if walking with it would help. I have bone loss in my hip joint. I also have access to a Jacob’s ladder and would a weighted vest on that help even more?
A weighted vest or rucksack would help.
of course it would!
@@knittingknutAbsolutely it would help. And stomping feet as you walk also helps.
Hi! Checkout the video on my channel called "Weight Vests for Osteoporosis? Do They Really Build Bone?"
I had 10 years ago a breast cancer hormonal dependant. I did not take any med or treatements for it except a surgery. I don’ t take any medication, don’t smoke or dring(even soda), not vegetarian. I weight 110lbs and 5.6. Diagnosed -1.6spine and -2.5 left hip and -2.6 femoral. I don’t want to take fosamax. May HRT be given to me?
BTW, cancer was only stage 1 and grade 1
@@joseeprince4704 check out Susan Hardwick Smith a popular OB/GYN in Houston. I’d guess her answer would be yes, but she’s the MD specialist and has many videos you can check out.
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I can't eat meat so I eat wild salmon for protein and 'organic' tofu.
Thank you for sharing!
Keep on top of heavy metals testing. Salmon, eating anything from the ocean can cause heavy metals in the body.
@@gilliani.4328 not a lot left that's safe to eat🙄🙂
@@juliebrady8583 Very true. I have vegetarian relatives who eat fish, mainly salmon & I pushed them to test & their mercury was off the charts.
@@gilliani.4328 thanks. Now I'm not sure what I can eat safely 😁🙄
What about Jazzersize
Class, is that resistance training
Nope
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Has anybody tried Tymos? My endo wants me to start asap. It's a daily injection
Hi! Checkout the video on my channel called "Best Drugs for Osteoporosis or Pathway to Cancer? Forteo and Tymlos the Bone Building Drugs!"
Thanks. I valued your opinions about protein. If things change, keep us up to date.
Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you found the information about protein valuable. I’ll definitely keep everyone updated if there are any changes or new insights to share. Your support means a lot!
Can I start HRT at 67? I did start vaginal estrogen tabs a few years ago. Also started taking Fosemax because of some osteoporosis in my spine. new Dexa scan showed no osteoporosis just osteopenia. I do weight lifting 3 days a week, increased protein intake and walk daily with a weighted vest. Should I stop the fosimax?
At some point the bill comes due with Fosomax. It stops the natural process of the body shedding old bone cells as new ones grow. Studies are showing that F makes bones denser, but over time they are rigid and prone to shattering. And jawbone loss can also be a consequence. Your nutrition and exercise improvements have likely improved your bone health despite taking F.
Tapering off and quitting it is worth investigating. Any medicine that dramatically negates a natural healthy biological process is suspect and of course has consequences. This you tuber has interesting vids on tests other than DEXA for more accurate personal data.
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Good info to keep the bone healthy. Thanks!
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Says waking, not walking 😊
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Swimming is very hard resistance training!
Thank you for sharing!
AS USUAL, IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY, HEALTH IS ONLY FOR THE RICH. SO IF YOU'RE OLD AND POOR YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. JUST KEEP SUFFERING 'TILL YOU DIE.🙄🤷🏼
I understand how frustrating that can feel! Health costs can be a barrier, but there are often practical steps we can take for wellness that don’t require a big budget. We're here to share knowledge to help people navigate these options, no matter their resources. Thank you for highlighting this important perspective!
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I believe it's important not to be dogmatic and see what works for you. For me I took two years to slowly work up to a .1 estradiol patch, I check blood serum and get numbers between 80-100 so this works great for me. Its bioidentical patch Estradot. I agree with the bioidentical protester one and even cyclical as a great idea. For two years I tried every way possible to tolerate bioidentical progesterone... Skin cream from compounded pharmacy, then pill form, vaginally cream, then pill vaginally, starting very low dose to work up and I got intolerable psych symptoms, cognitive impairment, insomnia, and tachycardia. I tried synthetic progestin orally to see if I tolerated better because you can't take estradiol without some form of progesterone or you can get endometrial cancer, if you have a womb still. My obgyn was very concerned about endometrial cancer when not on enough progesterone, he's seen some very bad stuff. I tried low dose progestin then cycled for 12 days and all just debilitated me. My endo and obgyn both suggested the Mirena progestin IUD and for two years I refused bc it's synthetic and I wanted only bioidentical. I decided to try Duavee first which has a SERM and kept a. 25 estradiol patch on and intolerable. I didn't take anything but estradiol for 3 months and had to get a D and C and my obgyn placed the Mirena....now my lining is protected from cancer while I take the level of estradiol I need for my bones to rebuild. My bone densities the last two years both had improvements and I'm now out of the severe osteoporosis diagnosis. I can't wait to see what this year's shows. I went from debilitated to lifting weights, taking Zumba, pilates, and walking daily. I have Marodyne and take fortibone collagen and aim to eat one gram of protein per ideal body weight... I get close most days. My whole body has gotten strong and pain is gone and I recheck my body composition dexa in december. I was sold on bioidentical creams being the gold standard but you have to find what you can do and tolerate. I'm willing to have the Mirena to be able to stay on estrogen. The Mirena IUD is the only form of a progesterone/progestin I can tolerate. Just like I do in my field of work I believe one size does not fit all and being too dogmatic can be a disservice.
Thank you for sharing your detailed journey! It’s so important to find what truly works for you, and I admire your perseverance in exploring different options. Your experience highlights the complexity of hormone therapy and the necessity of personalized approaches. It’s wonderful to hear that you’re seeing improvements in your bone density and overall well-being after all your hard work. Your commitment to staying active with weightlifting, Zumba, and Pilates is inspiring! Here’s to continued progress, and I look forward to hearing about your DEXA results in December!
@@Dr_DougLucas thank you! I'll update as I do my body composition Dexa in December and my bone density at HSS in NYC in June. I'm 48 and there is no way I'm not building back. I visualize strong bones and I'm also a woman of faith in Jesus and know from personal experience all things are possible. Our bodies are awe inspiring self healing and wonderfully made! I continue to find the line of adding weight and stress to strengthen with avoiding injury. I have had set backs but never give up. It is so worth it. I had POI and didn't get to be on hormones.. My case was mismanaged initially rhen I had a fracture and found out what was going on and refused IV evenity or some other bone drug and I am soooo glad I did. I'm believing I can gain back all until normal. Look, if you don't believe you can, you won't. I believe I can.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING your experience and journey!! I see myself in you and will use it as inspiration for my journey back to strong bones from a severe OP diagnosis. I, too, want to do it without the hard bone drugs and believe Christ, as the Great Physician, can turn this around regardless of what I do. I used to LOVE weight training but after a family tragedy I cocooned and fell hard into a sedentary life for 10 years which is when I developed severe OP. I need to get my life back and start a resistance training program bigtime!!!
I looked into the Marodyn LiV (spelling?) vibration plate a year ago and couldn't take the $3-4 grand hit... but I so want it and have been budgeting for it.
I haven't done HRT. 😬 Clearly, I need to find an informed physician to guide me in the right ways and see what's working for me.
May God bless you richly on your healing journey. Keep up the great work!! I will try to watch out for your update in a year or so. ..... hopefully, God willing, my journey will be a success as well. 🙏🕊❤️
@@rachelk3010 finding a physician to work with who is informed like this is vital. I did a ton of research 3 years ago when I got the diagnosis and read journal articles. This channel didn't exist then so I found a research study that showed women with POI put in full hormone replacement. Including a. 1 estradiol patch had regained to normal density within three years. Yes my loss was worse and I was not put on hormones as soon as they were... And they were a little younger than me but so what... Why not me also... And I knew I had to get on hormones. I did my own research on the women's health initiative and now many doctors speak out against it but hardly any did publically 3 years ago. Thank God things are changing. My opinion is hormones are way more important than the marodyne. Also I got a cheaper one refurbished. I also felt it was most useful when I was still sick and immobile. I was severely ill for 12 years and used a wheelchair and was bedridden, which along with the loss of hormones put me in the severe OP dx. Like the woman with the blood issue that Jesus healed after 12 years I also have a miraculous story of healing. This osteoporosis is the fall out from all of that, but it also is being reversed and healed. My ability to be active again, be able to walk again... I had to do lots to gain my life back... Lots of little steps into freedom... Patience and never giving up. Seeing myself thriving and well and using my body fully... Mindset is so important. Faith. Not using age as a limitation or even identifying too closely with a diagnosis. Every diagnosis I had there was no cure for and I'm healed. Now my bones are healing also. My goal is to be in the best shape of my life when I turn 50, and I have been in some great shape up until I got ill. I was a dancer and lifted weights and ran in my 20's...swam...had good muscle...and was not overweight nor underweight. But I believe I can be even stronger now. I eat much better now with protein and I so value my health and my body now. Stay committed and you can do this... God is a miracle worker and we do out part with the wisdom gained from our research, people like Dr. Doug, and by caring for our body, soul, and spirit. Getting out of a chronic stress response was vital for me. Laughing and dancing... Even when I couldn't stand... Were massively healing. Worshipping God and singing and mostly His Word... The Bible... Fed me spiritually when I was ill for so long and sustained me. It truly is life. I became closer to God and through my journey truly understand the whole point of life. I healed from the inside out and have become a new person. I believe God will lead you to the right doctor, or at least one who will read the research you bring to them and agree to the plan you'd like to have. I kept asking God and He led me to an endocrinologist in NYC who fully agreed with me and had read the studies I had and she's the one who said. 1 patch is the goal, let's see how close we can get. An obgyn is essential also because they know things like watching your lining and making sure you don't take unapposssd estrogen which can grow endometrial lining cancer. I pray God leads you to the right team. Get the foundation going... Close as you can to 1 gram of protein per pound of your ideal body weight... Although I usually get to about 100g a day. I also get my calcium from real food and only supplement if I'm lower than 1200mg that day. I eat no sugar and only on occasion a stevia homemade chocolate or something like that. Reduce stress and have more fun laughter and dancing in life. This reduces cortisol which when too high can harm out bones and lots more. I feel the supplements and the marodyne and even fortibone collagen are just icing on the cake. Slowly increase your exercise and most important is weight lifting. I was so weak and atrophied after 12 years I started with 2 lb weights for my arms and learned how to do squats and dead lifts from the Buff Bones subscription... Which also strengthened my core. I did all of this first and slowly built up over time. I'm now lifting 13 pound dumbells and started to do pull ups and push ups now. I do squats holding 56 pounds and deadlifts with 15 pound dumbells in each hand. Bit by by I'm getting there. My first zumba class I barely moved and I made everything low impact. This week I was upfront leading with the instructor. I still don't do big jumpy things... But I am starting to skip on my walks for just 15 seconds the walk again.. Anyway, its a journey and I wish at the start I had someone like Dr. Doug. I had to figure it out on my own and I was so scared at diagnosis, I thought I could break a vertebrae if I moved the wrong way. My journey has helped me to trust and know my body and I don't do foolish things but I continue to find the line and push it a little. I know when I need a rest day or more.
Your insightful words and incredible story is a huge blessing to me and I thank God for you!! ❤🙏 I am extremely grateful for all your valuable input, thoughtful advice, and intercessory prayers for my healing journey. I will definitely take much of your advice and run with it! Thank you, again, for being so very helpful and kind. Praise God Almighty for all that He's done in and for you! What amazing testimonies you have; I'm so happy to hear you've gotten your life back and on a solid road beyond recovery towards thriving. I truly pray to have the proper mindset, consistency with positive habits, and determination to take all the steps He guides me through. 🙏🕊💝 ✝️
Thank you for the informative video. You mentioned a “Hormone Therapy Masterclass” stating the link is on the Pema Bioidentical site but I am unable to find this link. I am member of Health Span Nation. Would the link be there too?