Thanks! I don’t use and Kurts juice on my cards…never have 👌 I’ve been around forever before Kurt’s care ever existed so I’m used to my old school basic ways :) Thanks for watching!
I think there should be more videos like this! Great video! I believe it’s the only way to determine the “real” best and most consistent grading company and not just the grading company that yields the most money
Love this video cross over to BGS, I had to watch because I only grade with BGS and this video made me happy with my decision. Thanks for the content, happy for you 🎉🎉🎉
I want Beckett to succeed! They keep making bad decisions, but I want them to get on track because I love their slabs and pretty consistent grading 👍 Thanks for the view and comment! Best of luck with your grades and happy collecting!
Sub grades are the best parts of BGS slabs to me, but really appreciate the science experiment and sub fees you went through to make this! Glad to see so many of these from older vids get the grades they deserve.
I agree with ya…subgrades are the best part about Beckett. In hindsight I probably should have got them. I was just being cheap at the time, and felt most of the cards just weren’t high end enough 🤪 And I agree, it’s great to see some of my older submitted cards in the correct grades 👌 Thanks as always!
@ Little Victories Sports Cards SOLID video, my friend. This actually has helped me before my submissions. Sure, it isn't full proof, but with this test you can see that there is a possible upside to cracking cards. Thank you for spending the time, and your hard earned money, to benefit us with your feedback. Genuine question, would you be willing to give info on or make a video talking about to business side of it?
Awesome comment 🙌 Thanks for the support! I plan on doing another crack out video soon (bgs 9.5’s to PSA), and in that video I’ll do more of an in-depth business side of my thinking 👍 Thanks again, and happy collecting!
I’d still go through PSA if you’re looking to maximize profits 👌 But if they’re thick cards, I say go with Beckett or SGC 🙌 Good luck! Happy collecting, and thanks for the view
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 you made all valid points…anyone who would find what you said even the slightest bit controversial is either a PSA burner account or their fanboy. I would have even advised you to not worry about sending back the cracked labels, but then I realized it’s probably a good thing that PSA sees just how many people are questioning the validity of their grading.
Every Reveal video including mine of PSA is being very harsh. I noticed all my cards /5 or /10 is getting a lot of 8's or less. I'm the toughest critic of sending into PSA as I review under direct light along with close magnifying glasses at least 5 times before I send in. Can't believe I'd get 6's, 7's and 8's. All the new hires PSA gets in seems to be very inexperienced. Too bad there isn't a industry standard auditor to keep them legitimate. Ya I feel PSA is overwhelmed and is pushed to get the orders out that just means the quantity over quality really shows the PSA monster in the hobby! GL
This shows that PSA is doing what people claim, they grade down to grade fast. This gives them the benefit of looking like a harder grader when really they are just the more inconsistent grader. I read that PSA averages like 10 seconds a card. That means they are not louping cards. The graders are simply glancing quickly at cards in this price range and slapping fast grades that are more illogical. I have found BGS to be the most accurate by far!
I really hope your 10second statement isn’t true 😳 That would be crazy, and they would definitely lose my business if they did that. I’m assuming they spend more like 1 minute a card, hopefully 2 minutes. Thanks for the view! 🙌
I have no idea how the news of the grading changes is going to play out with Beckett cards. They had so many other things to fix before messing with grading scale though. Prime example is this order. No sub grades and they take 4 months. That's huge issues that need immediate attention. If all this grading scale change is true what happens to the no sub grade cards? Best of luck!
Totally agree with you. They had such bigger problems to address than the grading scale. Ugh, just another bad move by them unfortunately :( I think that was the final straw for me….I’m just going to use PSA and SGC for now. Thanks for the view and comment! 🙌
Depends on how big the fish eye is 👍 They drop you 1-2 grade levels in general. And I’ve found that they have been more harsh lately on fish eyes. Thanks for the view and comment!
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I was looking at a 1973 topps baseball card and it had two small bubbles near the inner border of the card. other than that the card looked sharp. could those little things prevent it from getting a 10?
When they talk about Gem Rates , does that include BGS 9.5 ? I feel that PSA give out more 10's than anybody else but maybe not more Gems. I have watched a lot of reveals from all kinds of graders and no doubt , in my mind , PSA give out a lot more 10's. Numbers can be twisted around with misleading Gem Rates. Case in point , what does PSA give a 9.5 card, a card that's almost perfect ? We know that BGS gives it a 9.5 so , is a PSA 10 really a 10 ?
If grading through Beckett then a 9.5 is considered gem mint. And included when talking gem rates 👍 I personally feel like PSA does not give out more gems than other companies. People just grade with PSA 12x twelve times more than the other companies, so you just see more 10’s. And I’d say 80% of the time PSA gives a ‘9.5’ card a mint 9. And 20% of the time they give it a gem 10. Thanks for watching! LV
Not that PSA gives a crap, but would be funny if their brass was presented this video to reassess their inconsistency. Great idea for content, thank you.
Yeah unfortunately they’re too big to give a crap :( But it would be great for their company in the long run to watch vids like this on TH-cam from users. Thanks for the view and comment. Really appreciate it 👌
PSA aren't just inconsistent in grading cards, they actually damage your cards too. Received 6 damaged cards last time. Cost me about $4000. They just ignored my email.
The problem is PSA know people will continue to send them 1 million card per month and more times than not they say kick bricks. If PSA did not have the ROI on the PSA 10 it does, compared to gem mint of other very good grading companies, they would be at best #3
It’s so crazy how different the companies grade. Nowadays you really have to think about which grading company a specific card would grade best with. So crazy. Thanks so much for the view, and the support always 👌
I feel that it’s the new graders that are giving the lower grades. If I were to start there and work, I would want to make sure when they look at my work they see that I’m harder than easier and wouldn’t give excess gem mint grades to everyone. I think the older graders are the ones that let slight imperfections slide as they know what production flaws aren’t the fault of the customer.
Thanks! 👌 Its gotta be just the years of experience. Now I need to grade with SGC more so I can understand the way they grade better. Have a great day! 🙌
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I received my first TAG cross over yesterday. bowman chrome auto PSA 8 > TAG 9 (high 9) Topps Chrone black refrac PSA 8 > TAG 8.5 Heritage chrome refract PSA 7 > TAG 9 I’ve got a larger 10 card cross over (BGS/PSA > TAG ) about to be sent out this Thursday with them
I have been noticing a lot more inconsistency this past year or two from PSA…it’s gotta be the new graders. I think it’s great people are finding new companies they enjoy more 🙌 thanks for the view!
This type of video is really valuable for folks that seem to think a single opinion from PSA is final. They make more mistakes every day than the other big companies (maybe just because of volume) and boy are they sloppy. Nice BGS returns here, they seem reasonable. Very VERY bush league that BGS charges more for the subs to be put on the slab, it’s a joke, but hey, still look good.
Agreed….BGS shouldn’t charge more for adding subgrades! They need to lower their overall prices, and grading without subgrades shouldn’t even be an option. I do love the look of their slabs too 👌 Thanks as always!
This was a very good reveal. Thanks for doing it. Your so very right in all comments. Thick cards to Beckett. What do you think about 80's and 90's cards? Most likely 9's and 8's, but I don't want PSA giving them 5's and 6's. There may be an occasional 7 but they aren't gems cause back in the day we didn't sleeve and look at the condition like we do today. I'm in my 60's. Looked and handled them differently than we do now.
@@williampotts7205 thanks for viewing my vid! 🙌 I would hold off sending in any 80’s and 90’s cards that look like 8’s and 9’s. All grading companies charge too much per card these days to make it worth sending in any 80’s 90’s cards that don’t have a real shot at a gem 10. Good luck! And happy collecting 👍
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 There's an opportunity. Just buy good looking lower graded PSA slabs and crack them out. You save loads and get a mint card.
First I have seen someone return labels to PSA to have deactivated from registry which good practice. You should put a note in that you had them correctly graded through BGS and the each card grade difference to show them how much inconsistencies they have as result of inexperienced graders. Well done on true estimated grades vs actual with BGS. Unfortunately most were push on value increase even with higher BGS grade by the time you factor in additional grading fee. I know that was not the point and more about principal. Glad you did get few with very nice $ gain so overall a win in the end. If only Nat Turner saw your video! Thanks for well put together video
Yeah, unfortunately most were just a push, but like you said it was more about principal 👌 I wish Nat would watch TH-cam psa reveals…I actually think he could gain a lot of knowledge to better his company and future of grading. Thanks so much for always appreciating my vids! 🙌
I think the real question is, does a PSA-10 always qualify a 10? As a consumer of PSA10s I'm cool with them being extra stringent in their grading. However, if I ever found out a PSA10 wasn't super mint, if be pissed. If you really want a checks and balance, crack open some junk slab 10s and see if they stay 10s.
That would be the ultimate test! I’ve definitely seen some psa 10’s that look like 9’s, usually older labels. They have been grading 10’s tougher lately 👌 Thanks for the view!
100% agree with ya here. If for some reason I do grade with BGS again, I would get subgrades. Honestly, I was just being cheap 🤪 BGS shouldn’t even offer a no subgrade option in my opinion. Thanks for watching! 🙌
This is why i don't get why the hobby uses PSA as the standard. Beckett is always more consistent and accurate. PSA has always been inconsistent. It goes from overly easy to get 10's to mint/gem mint cards getting 5/6's. You can even just keep resubmitting 8's/9's until they get a 10; yet huge premium for it. I don't get it.
I do wish the resale value was more equal amongst the grading companies. Hopefully someday one of them can get up there with PSA 🤞 thanks for the view and comment!
I probably should have, but I honestly was just being cheap 🤣 It was like an extra $4-5 per card, and it didn’t seem worth it on mostly lower end cards. Thanks for the view and comment! 👍
I buy1980’s/90’s PSA slabs (mostly PSA 9). I’m starting to look at BGS 9.5 when a PSA 9 has a super high pop count. What 9.5 subgrades must be on the slab to give it the most value? Centering? Edges? Corners? Surface?
@@chrisolivo6591 I would say Corners and Surface are the two most important ones…you ideally want them to be 9.5 subgrades on those 👍 Beckett grades centering a little tougher than PSA, so a BGS 9 centering sub not too big of a deal. Hope that helps!
I’m curious to see that too. I’m an optimistic guy, so I’m thinking things should get better with time. Once these new graders and market volatility settle, things will look up 👍 Thanks for the view and comment!
I understand what you're doing in the grade is better because it's in a Beckett and it a higher grade but at 8 psia is it back at 9 in price so they're still the same price point if you buy them on eBay only if you get a nine-point-five then you may have a price jump and it won't be that high I don't think I did that a few times myself and it wasn't worth it in the long run
You’re correct and I get what you are saying. But I sent these in mainly for self-validation, getting the cards in the correct numerical grade I felt like they deserved 🙌 Thanks for the view and comment 👌
That no excuse PSA has to many variables POP Reports there involvement with Auction house there own Vault. I used to get 40-45 percent with modern cards now it’s 20 percent. They want to control the card market so goodbye to these people I think it’s time for all of us to wake up and leave PSA behind
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I grade my cards with SGC as their grading is consistent & I’m a collector not reseller so maximum return value is not an issue for me. It could be for my heirs 😉
I haven't seen your whole submission yet , the reason ,you may have got a9.5 0n that there gold fractal #/99 ," when you turned to the back , it is right to left onthe centering ,the red history reading " its straight on the right tho the left is a bit , "not straight , compare it to some others & you may see what i can nottice ." They can be a bit brutal tho ,ile keep watching ,thanks for the viewing ,
I agree that Beckett isn’t the grading leader anymore, far from it. But I feel they were consistent and accurate with their grades from this order 👍 Thanks for the view!
Agreed, ugh. And these lil games are expensive 😬 I’m thinking things will change soon, or at least grading costs go down. Thanks for the view and comment!
They give you two options now….subgrades or no subs. They charge less for no subs, so I was just being cheap lol 😂 It was like $5 extra per card so I passed this time 👍 thanks for the view and comment!
Yeah I was really confused about that as well. Why go through all that and not do the whole thing properly? Makes no sense cards look cheap without the subs
Thanks for the view! 🙌 Yes, it did cost extra to grade the booklet. But it was worth it :) I’m not exactly sure how much extra I paid but it didn’t feel bad, somewhere between $6-15 bucks extra.
I am now on team “thick cards go to Beckett”! Thanks for doing this experiment, because the data is useful. The dual auto booklet looks super dope in that Beckett slab! Overall great slab, and great vid as always!
I was being cheap 😂 It was like an extra $5 per card for subgrades. In the end I only really wanted the overall grade for validation 👌 Thanks for the view!
Nowadays you can chose either with subs or no subs. It was nearly $5 per card cheaper to go with no subs, so I was cheap at the time and chose that option. Thanks for the view and comment! 🙌
Wow the 5 to a 9.5 is the craziest cross over I’ve seen. Makes no sense how psa gave that a 5. And I get the no sub grades on the lower end stuff but on the higher end cards you still didn’t want to put sub grades? I saw in the other replies you said you were being cheap (which I get🤣) but would assume the sub grades on that stuff would pay for itself. Just curious what you think. Overall really nice stuff my friend!
Yeah, I recommend getting/paying for the subgrades on the more higher end stuff 👍 But most of the cards in this order were just lower end $10-30 buck stuff, so I couldn’t justify another $5 per card. Plus in the end I really just wanted an overall grade for self validation 😅 Thanks for viewing as always…I appreciate it!
I've cracked open 5's and got 9's and 9.5's back. It's best to buy lower graded good looking PSA slabs and crack them out. Most of the time, they're mint. I bought a 5 for peanuts the other week and it looks perfect.
Great video man. Your Beckett Grader was having a great day. That Chipper honestly gives a BGS 9.5 a bad name. It just goes to show you that every grader is different at these companies and their mood really plays a role in these grades. I have had similar experiences recently. No consistency at all. Thanks!
Funny to think about how the success of our grades are probably heavily influenced by the graders wife/partner 🤣 Let’s hope they didn’t get into a fight the night before! 🤞
Overall they’ve treated me well over the years, but I can understand people’s grievances. I think all the grading companies have their own flaws. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it 👍
Your thicker cards assessment, I think is spot on... SGC, BGS all day long...
Totally…I learned that the hard way 😅 Thanks for watching! 👍
Solid recap man! This just solidifies what we all know about PSA.
Glad you watched this one 🙌 I appreciate the support. Happy collecting!
Great crossover. I was surprised in the grade difference. After yo cracked the PSA Slabs, did you use a little Kurt’s?
Thanks! I don’t use and Kurts juice on my cards…never have 👌 I’ve been around forever before Kurt’s care ever existed so I’m used to my old school basic ways :) Thanks for watching!
They should put the name of the graders on the receipt for accountability.
That would be incredible! Kinda like how referees should be fined for missing calls 👍
unbelievable.
Yeah, wild grade swings amongst the grading companies right now 😬 Thanks for the view and comment! 👍
Great video!
Thanks, I appreciate that! 🙌
Fun video. I've cracked several lately with some wild results.. it's all a crapshoot.
It really is a roll of the dice 🤪 Thanks for the view and support 🙌 Happy crackin’ and collecting!
Cool, never knew The Professor collected cards
Lol 😂 love it. Thanks for the view!
Beckett received a 26 card order of mine on May 4. They finally graded my cards in September 9th.
No 10s ….about 40% 9.5 ….40% 9 and 20% 8
Very solid order 👌 Sorry Beckett takes so long though. Thanks for watching! 🙌
Why did Beckett take 4 months for your cards?
Was it a lower service you paid?
Yeah, 3-4 months is just too long. I sent it economy, I think that’s the lowest level. Thanks for the view and comment! 👌
I have a Faulk like that Barry and need to pull it from the PSA pile and send it to BECKETT.
I’m still not sure why PSA gave it an 8. Good luck with your Faulk 🤞 They are great looking cards
I think there should be more videos like this! Great video! I believe it’s the only way to determine the “real” best and most consistent grading company and not just the grading company that yields the most money
Thank you! I appreciate your comment 👌 I’m hoping my vids can help collectors understand the strengths and weaknesses of each grading company 👍
Love this video cross over to BGS, I had to watch because I only grade with BGS and this video made me happy with my decision. Thanks for the content, happy for you 🎉🎉🎉
I want Beckett to succeed! They keep making bad decisions, but I want them to get on track because I love their slabs and pretty consistent grading 👍 Thanks for the view and comment! Best of luck with your grades and happy collecting!
Beckett is definitely more consistent. But PSA is where the money is at. It's tought to decide where to send given how PSA grades can go.
Really hard to predict PSA, I agree. Especially recently. Thanks so much for the view and comment! 👌
Sub grades are the best parts of BGS slabs to me, but really appreciate the science experiment and sub fees you went through to make this! Glad to see so many of these from older vids get the grades they deserve.
I agree with ya…subgrades are the best part about Beckett. In hindsight I probably should have got them. I was just being cheap at the time, and felt most of the cards just weren’t high end enough 🤪
And I agree, it’s great to see some of my older submitted cards in the correct grades 👌 Thanks as always!
Grading discrepancies get worse with older cards. Sent a PSA 2, T206 baseball card. I prefer the SGC holders for this set, got an SGC 4.
Yeah, something about SGC and vintage cards…they just look so great in the Tux 👌
@ Little Victories Sports Cards SOLID video, my friend. This actually has helped me before my submissions. Sure, it isn't full proof, but with this test you can see that there is a possible upside to cracking cards. Thank you for spending the time, and your hard earned money, to benefit us with your feedback.
Genuine question, would you be willing to give info on or make a video talking about to business side of it?
Awesome comment 🙌 Thanks for the support! I plan on doing another crack out video soon (bgs 9.5’s to PSA), and in that video I’ll do more of an in-depth business side of my thinking 👍 Thanks again, and happy collecting!
Who should I grade my cards through If I’m trying to do a bunch of 15$ raw cards
I’d still go through PSA if you’re looking to maximize profits 👌 But if they’re thick cards, I say go with Beckett or SGC 🙌 Good luck! Happy collecting, and thanks for the view
Thanks my guy
Thank you for watching! Happy collecting! 👌
“If they get the grade right then you won’t need to crack our cards”…👏🏼 Preach
Definitely the truth. Thanks for all the support and comments 🙌 Really appreciate it
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 you made all valid points…anyone who would find what you said even the slightest bit controversial is either a PSA burner account or their fanboy. I would have even advised you to not worry about sending back the cracked labels, but then I realized it’s probably a good thing that PSA sees just how many people are questioning the validity of their grading.
@@user-xf2tl8ee3c I think I sent them back over 100 labels 🤣 I wonder if they’ve already been deactivated. Thanks for the support! 👍
Every Reveal video including mine of PSA is being very harsh. I noticed all my cards /5 or /10 is getting a lot of 8's or less. I'm the toughest critic of sending into PSA as I review under direct light along with close magnifying glasses at least 5 times before I send in. Can't believe I'd get 6's, 7's and 8's. All the new hires PSA gets in seems to be very inexperienced. Too bad there isn't a industry standard auditor to keep them legitimate. Ya I feel PSA is overwhelmed and is pushed to get the orders out that just means the quantity over quality really shows the PSA monster in the hobby! GL
I hope your grades get better 🤞 Graders need to be unknowingly tested periodically…keep them on their toes. Thanks so much for the view and comment!
This shows that PSA is doing what people claim, they grade down to grade fast.
This gives them the benefit of looking like a harder grader when really they are just the more inconsistent grader.
I read that PSA averages like 10 seconds a card. That means they are not louping cards. The graders are simply glancing quickly at cards in this price range and slapping fast grades that are more illogical.
I have found BGS to be the most accurate by far!
I really hope your 10second statement isn’t true 😳 That would be crazy, and they would definitely lose my business if they did that. I’m assuming they spend more like 1 minute a card, hopefully 2 minutes. Thanks for the view! 🙌
I have no idea how the news of the grading changes is going to play out with Beckett cards. They had so many other things to fix before messing with grading scale though. Prime example is this order. No sub grades and they take 4 months. That's huge issues that need immediate attention. If all this grading scale change is true what happens to the no sub grade cards? Best of luck!
Totally agree with you. They had such bigger problems to address than the grading scale. Ugh, just another bad move by them unfortunately :( I think that was the final straw for me….I’m just going to use PSA and SGC for now. Thanks for the view and comment! 🙌
SGC Will get my business from now on PSA Is turning into a joke there graders are horrible as you see by this Video time too leave them behind
what's been your experience on how fish eyes affect grading?
Depends on how big the fish eye is 👍 They drop you 1-2 grade levels in general. And I’ve found that they have been more harsh lately on fish eyes. Thanks for the view and comment!
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I was looking at a 1973 topps baseball card and it had two small bubbles near the inner border of the card. other than that the card looked sharp. could those little things prevent it from getting a 10?
@@4rebecca unfortunately the answer is yes
:( PSA can be pretty strict on surface stuff like that from the 70’s and 80’s
When they talk about Gem Rates , does that include BGS 9.5 ? I feel that PSA give out more 10's than anybody else but maybe not more Gems. I have watched a lot of reveals from all kinds of graders and no doubt , in my mind , PSA give out a lot more 10's. Numbers can be twisted around with misleading Gem Rates. Case in point , what does PSA give a 9.5 card, a card that's almost perfect ? We know that BGS gives it a 9.5 so , is a PSA 10 really a 10 ?
If grading through Beckett then a 9.5 is considered gem mint. And included when talking gem rates 👍 I personally feel like PSA does not give out more gems than other companies. People just grade with PSA 12x twelve times more than the other companies, so you just see more 10’s. And I’d say 80% of the time PSA gives a ‘9.5’ card a mint 9. And 20% of the time they give it a gem 10.
Thanks for watching! LV
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 where do you get 20% ? A 9.5 could go either way 50-50. Either way, the end result is more 10's , even if it's 20%.
Not that PSA gives a crap, but would be funny if their brass was presented this video to reassess their inconsistency. Great idea for content, thank you.
Yeah unfortunately they’re too big to give a crap :( But it would be great for their company in the long run to watch vids like this on TH-cam from users. Thanks for the view and comment. Really appreciate it 👌
You are the man!! Great content
Really appreciate that! 🙌 Thanks for the view and comment!
Dude, im 5 min I and hyped! That Butler jump from 5->9.5 is insane!
Yeah, I still can’t believe PSA gave that card an EX5! 🤯 Thanks for taking the time to watch my vid right now! 🙌
PSA aren't just inconsistent in grading cards, they actually damage your cards too. Received 6 damaged cards last time. Cost me about $4000. They just ignored my email.
I truly hope they get back to you and make it right. Thanks again for viewing my vid! 🙌
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 They asked me to re-send pictures, so I did, but they ignored me the second time. I give up
The problem is PSA know people will continue to send them 1 million card per month and more times than not they say kick bricks. If PSA did not have the ROI on the PSA 10 it does, compared to gem mint of other very good grading companies, they would be at best #3
@@thereverendripps1733 It's all a con. I'm just buying cards graded instead. Not guaranteed fair grades with PSA
Wow 100% grade bump?! Incredible, really makes you reconsider a PSA submission compared to BGS or SGC
It’s so crazy how different the companies grade. Nowadays you really have to think about which grading company a specific card would grade best with. So crazy. Thanks so much for the view, and the support always 👌
I feel that it’s the new graders that are giving the lower grades. If I were to start there and work, I would want to make sure when they look at my work they see that I’m harder than easier and wouldn’t give excess gem mint grades to everyone. I think the older graders are the ones that let slight imperfections slide as they know what production flaws aren’t the fault of the customer.
Crazy how spot on your grading eye is!
Thanks! 👌 Its gotta be just the years of experience. Now I need to grade with SGC more so I can understand the way they grade better. Have a great day! 🙌
PSA more then anyone artificially keeps pop counts low. From now on I will only send my Brady’s and Jordan’s to TAG
The especially did during the pandemic :(
Let me know how you like Tag 👌 Good luck and happy collecting!
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I received my first TAG cross over yesterday.
bowman chrome auto PSA 8 > TAG 9 (high 9)
Topps Chrone black refrac PSA 8 > TAG 8.5
Heritage chrome refract PSA 7 > TAG 9
I’ve got a larger 10 card cross over (BGS/PSA > TAG ) about to be sent out this Thursday with them
Great video but PSA in the last year sucks ,I've been grading vintage with CSG they are alot better than PSA 👍
I have been noticing a lot more inconsistency this past year or two from PSA…it’s gotta be the new graders. I think it’s great people are finding new companies they enjoy more 🙌 thanks for the view!
This type of video is really valuable for folks that seem to think a single opinion from PSA is final. They make more mistakes every day than the other big companies (maybe just because of volume) and boy are they sloppy. Nice BGS returns here, they seem reasonable. Very VERY bush league that BGS charges more for the subs to be put on the slab, it’s a joke, but hey, still look good.
Agreed….BGS shouldn’t charge more for adding subgrades! They need to lower their overall prices, and grading without subgrades shouldn’t even be an option. I do love the look of their slabs too 👌 Thanks as always!
And the parameters are different at Beckett then they are at PSATs a is more strict and that's ypsa hold the premium
Sometimes I would just rather have the card in the correct grade and take a price hit 👍
Loved the video I hope BGS does not see it tho 😂
🤣 lol. Or maybe it’s a good thing if PSA or BGS watches it :) Thanks for the view and continued support 👍
Amazing 100% bump rate and so crazy going from a 5 & 6 to 9.5!
There is no way a card should go from an EX 5 to gem mint 9.5 between companies 🤪 Glad you watched! Thanks so much as always
This was a very good reveal. Thanks for doing it. Your so very right in all comments. Thick cards to Beckett. What do you think about 80's and 90's cards? Most likely 9's and 8's, but I don't want PSA giving them 5's and 6's. There may be an occasional 7 but they aren't gems cause back in the day we didn't sleeve and look at the condition like we do today. I'm in my 60's. Looked and handled them differently than we do now.
@@williampotts7205 thanks for viewing my vid! 🙌 I would hold off sending in any 80’s and 90’s cards that look like 8’s and 9’s. All grading companies charge too much per card these days to make it worth sending in any 80’s 90’s cards that don’t have a real shot at a gem 10. Good luck! And happy collecting 👍
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 There's an opportunity. Just buy good looking lower graded PSA slabs and crack them out. You save loads and get a mint card.
I'm getting out my gem mint PSA 5/6's right now!
5 to a 9.5 on the Caron what a W!!!
Yeah, that was an insane grading difference 🤣
Gotta be a record lol
I wish the hobby would come together and stop using psa until they fix their internal issues
First I have seen someone return labels to PSA to have deactivated from registry which good practice. You should put a note in that you had them correctly graded through BGS and the each card grade difference to show them how much inconsistencies they have as result of inexperienced graders. Well done on true estimated grades vs actual with BGS. Unfortunately most were push on value increase even with higher BGS grade by the time you factor in additional grading fee. I know that was not the point and more about principal. Glad you did get few with very nice $ gain so overall a win in the end. If only Nat Turner saw your video! Thanks for well put together video
Yeah, unfortunately most were just a push, but like you said it was more about principal 👌 I wish Nat would watch TH-cam psa reveals…I actually think he could gain a lot of knowledge to better his company and future of grading. Thanks so much for always appreciating my vids! 🙌
I second this
Dought Psa cares. Too big
Anxious to see results! From your picture with big grin I’m assuming you did well.
Lol…you’re perceptive 😊
Awesome yeah boy 🎉
Thanks so much!
Sub-grades could’ve helped out with your confusion
Thanks for the view and comment 🙌
I think the real question is, does a PSA-10 always qualify a 10? As a consumer of PSA10s I'm cool with them being extra stringent in their grading. However, if I ever found out a PSA10 wasn't super mint, if be pissed. If you really want a checks and balance, crack open some junk slab 10s and see if they stay 10s.
That would be the ultimate test! I’ve definitely seen some psa 10’s that look like 9’s, usually older labels. They have been grading 10’s tougher lately 👌 Thanks for the view!
You do yourself a disservice by not getting sub grades if going Bgs. That way you can see what wasn’t making it gem especially since PSA didn’t either
100% agree with ya here. If for some reason I do grade with BGS again, I would get subgrades. Honestly, I was just being cheap 🤪 BGS shouldn’t even offer a no subgrade option in my opinion. Thanks for watching! 🙌
This is why i don't get why the hobby uses PSA as the standard. Beckett is always more consistent and accurate. PSA has always been inconsistent. It goes from overly easy to get 10's to mint/gem mint cards getting 5/6's. You can even just keep resubmitting 8's/9's until they get a 10; yet huge premium for it. I don't get it.
I do wish the resale value was more equal amongst the grading companies. Hopefully someday one of them can get up there with PSA 🤞 thanks for the view and comment!
why no subgrades man 😮
I probably should have, but I honestly was just being cheap 🤣 It was like an extra $4-5 per card, and it didn’t seem worth it on mostly lower end cards. Thanks for the view and comment! 👍
Def go with sub grades next time. Most people who buy BGS won't look at the slab seriously if it doesn't have subs. It adds so much value as well.
I definitely will! They shouldn’t even offer a no-subgrade option. BGS new announcement about a true gem now being a gem 10 slab is insane!
I buy1980’s/90’s PSA slabs (mostly PSA 9). I’m starting to look at BGS 9.5 when a PSA 9 has a super high pop count. What 9.5 subgrades must be on the slab to give it the most value? Centering? Edges? Corners? Surface?
@@chrisolivo6591 I would say Corners and Surface are the two most important ones…you ideally want them to be 9.5 subgrades on those 👍 Beckett grades centering a little tougher than PSA, so a BGS 9 centering sub not too big of a deal. Hope that helps!
Good point on PSA getting more graders. Will be curious to see how the grades change as the hobby settles back down after the COVID bump
I’m curious to see that too. I’m an optimistic guy, so I’m thinking things should get better with time. Once these new graders and market volatility settle, things will look up 👍 Thanks for the view and comment!
I understand what you're doing in the grade is better because it's in a Beckett and it a higher grade but at 8 psia is it back at 9 in price so they're still the same price point if you buy them on eBay only if you get a nine-point-five then you may have a price jump and it won't be that high I don't think I did that a few times myself and it wasn't worth it in the long run
You’re correct and I get what you are saying. But I sent these in mainly for self-validation, getting the cards in the correct numerical grade I felt like they deserved 🙌 Thanks for the view and comment 👌
The anticipation is killing meeeee
Drops at 3pm pacific time :) Thanks for the support! 🙌
That no excuse PSA has to many variables POP Reports there involvement with Auction house there own Vault. I used to get 40-45 percent with modern cards now it’s 20 percent. They want to control the card market so goodbye to these people I think it’s time for all of us to wake up and leave PSA behind
I still can’t believe that PSA 5 became a BGS 9.5 🤪 Grading is wild, but I still love it. Thanks for the comment and watching 👍
From 5 to 9.5 or 6 to 9.5 lol, psa come on
Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous 🤣 thanks for the view and comment!
Awesome cards and video! I really appreciate you putting up the comparison comps, thanks!
I really appreciate all the support always 👌 Crack out vids are fun to make!
“Yeah but PSA-graded cards get higher resale values!” WRONG!! When cards are PROPERLY graded, the resale value is realized regardless of grader.
You have a valid argument there 👍 I’m really hoping SGC drops their prices a little more and then I’m on board 🙌 Thanks so much as always
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I grade my cards with SGC as their grading is consistent & I’m a collector not reseller so maximum return value is not an issue for me. It could be for my heirs 😉
I haven't seen your whole submission yet , the reason ,you may have got a9.5 0n that there gold fractal #/99 ," when you turned to the back , it is right to left onthe centering ,the red history reading " its straight on the right tho the left is a bit , "not straight , compare it to some others & you may see what i can nottice ." They can be a bit brutal tho ,ile keep watching ,thanks for the viewing ,
I’ll check out what you noticed 🙌 Thanks so much for the view and comment
Beckett is not the leader in grading anymore. I believe they are giving higher grades so people will come back and grade more cards with them
I agree that Beckett isn’t the grading leader anymore, far from it. But I feel they were consistent and accurate with their grades from this order 👍 Thanks for the view!
It’s a shame we have to play these little games with mis-graded PSA slabs. And they claim two graders look at every card. BS
Agreed, ugh. And these lil games are expensive 😬 I’m thinking things will change soon, or at least grading costs go down. Thanks for the view and comment!
That’s crazy. Cool little two part session. Good call on those cards.
I really appreciate that! 👌 I always enjoy making crack out vids. Thanks for the view!
I thought beckett showed sub grades?
They give you two options now….subgrades or no subs. They charge less for no subs, so I was just being cheap lol 😂 It was like $5 extra per card so I passed this time 👍 thanks for the view and comment!
You're just wasting your time and money submitting to PSA. It's best to buy good looking PSA 4-7's because nine times out of ten they're mint.
At this point I’m sending to all the companies lol 😂 Thanks for the view and comment! 👍
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 I'm holding off for a while. Will submit when the grading fees drop down.
@@DanielCordone9 I don’t understand cracking for BGS with no sub grades…
Yeah I was really confused about that as well. Why go through all that and not do the whole thing properly? Makes no sense cards look cheap without the subs
Psa is rushing too fast only to screw up grades! Bad business...
Yeah, I really wonder how long they spend grading each card. One minute, two minutes, 30 seconds?
Bgs used to be tougher but looks like they are slapping 9.5 on everything now
Thanks for the view! 👍 My takeaway from this was BGS graded more accurately, and PSA graded too tough. But I like different perspectives 👌
I've had 9/10 good submissions with BGS. Usually get 9.5's etc. Very rarely get under on 8.5 unless it's a sticker which is miscut.
Great vid as always. Was hoping you would black label one of the 5 or 6s lol
🤣 that would have been legendary! Amazing comment, thanks!
nice booklet card . Does it cost extra to grade them ?
Thanks for the view! 🙌 Yes, it did cost extra to grade the booklet. But it was worth it :) I’m not exactly sure how much extra I paid but it didn’t feel bad, somewhere between $6-15 bucks extra.
I am now on team “thick cards go to Beckett”! Thanks for doing this experiment, because the data is useful. The dual auto booklet looks super dope in that Beckett slab! Overall great slab, and great vid as always!
Yeah, I’m done grading thick cards with PSA. Glad you liked the booklet! It looks even better in person 👌 I really appreciate the continued support!
SGC grade thick cards well. Sent in cards with incisions and scratches and they came back as 8's. Thought they would get 6.5's etc
Agree they really do look better in a becket slab in addition you will get a more consistent grade
BGS is giving out good grades as of now... Trying to net new subs. Why didnt you get sub grades if you are testing graders?????
I was being cheap 😂 It was like an extra $5 per card for subgrades. In the end I only really wanted the overall grade for validation 👌 Thanks for the view!
I would never send the tags back ulless they paid me for each one.........
To each their own. They are your cert tags, so you don’t have to.
I just know that I personally will always send them back in 👍
Where are the sub grades bro.
Nowadays you can chose either with subs or no subs. It was nearly $5 per card cheaper to go with no subs, so I was cheap at the time and chose that option. Thanks for the view and comment! 🙌
Wow the 5 to a 9.5 is the craziest cross over I’ve seen. Makes no sense how psa gave that a 5. And I get the no sub grades on the lower end stuff but on the higher end cards you still didn’t want to put sub grades? I saw in the other replies you said you were being cheap (which I get🤣) but would assume the sub grades on that stuff would pay for itself. Just curious what you think. Overall really nice stuff my friend!
Yeah, I recommend getting/paying for the subgrades on the more higher end stuff 👍 But most of the cards in this order were just lower end $10-30 buck stuff, so I couldn’t justify another $5 per card. Plus in the end I really just wanted an overall grade for self validation 😅 Thanks for viewing as always…I appreciate it!
@@littlevictoriessportscards197 gotcha and of course love the content
I've cracked open 5's and got 9's and 9.5's back. It's best to buy lower graded good looking PSA slabs and crack them out. Most of the time, they're mint. I bought a 5 for peanuts the other week and it looks perfect.
Great video man. Your Beckett Grader was having a great day. That Chipper honestly gives a BGS 9.5 a bad name. It just goes to show you that every grader is different at these companies and their mood really plays a role in these grades. I have had similar experiences recently. No consistency at all. Thanks!
Funny to think about how the success of our grades are probably heavily influenced by the graders wife/partner 🤣 Let’s hope they didn’t get into a fight the night before! 🤞
Most of these seemed pretty spot on, but yeah, the chipper, seemed more like a 9; with a 8.5 corner; I wonder maybe cause he submitted without subs.
TAG fixes this
PSA are not trustworthy of your business PSA =Please Submit Again I’m done working with these unethical company
Overall they’ve treated me well over the years, but I can understand people’s grievances.
I think all the grading companies have their own flaws. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it 👍
Psa has bad management training grading practices
All subjective. FCG is $14 a card and back in 10 days, those Beckett slabs are dreadful
Grading is definitely subjective 😬 I’m probably one of the few, but I actually like BGS slabs. Thanks for the view and comment!
Beckett makes the best looking slabs & is very consistent in grading in my experience. Never heard of fgc