Comparison of My Dillon XL750 and Hornady LnL Builds/Operation
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- This video is WAY long...because it is a side by side comparison of how I built out and run my Dillon XL750 for 9mm and my Hornady LnL for 45 ACP. Each are configured almost the same, with each having a mechanical case and bullet feeder system as well as an RCBS Lockout die.
Instead of one video of running each press start to finish, I decided to break each process (e.g., powder, primer, bullets, reloading, etc.) for both presses into direct comparison segments side by side. So for setting up the powder measure, I show how I do it for one press and the very next segment is the same process with the other press. Thus the long video.
Spoiler Alert: Each press does the same thing very well. They both load their respective calibers with an excellent finished product. Although each press does the same task, each one does it a bit differently in certain areas and I point out what I like/dislike about each press. At the end of the day after having worked on both presses and having them so closely configured, there is no blue/red better than red/blue. No "OMG", I've seen the light and one press is SO much better than the other. In fact, they are, IMO, completely equal for how I have them set up and running.
Interested in both presses. Great video all around. If there’s one thing this quarantine is good for is men tinkering in their shops!
Can’t thank you enough for sharing your thoughts and what you’ve discovered along the way.
Appreciate your comment and thanks. I have been meaning to do an "update" on this as things have changed on both presses (for the better IMO) over the last 3 years that make using each of them more enjoyable in their own ways.
Thank you for the very informative video! I have A Dillion 650 and 750 and am very pleased with both of them. I also like Hornady products as well. I have 3 of their bullet feeder dies, I like them but I think I will try a double Alfa also. Thanks again for the information.
Re Loader your spot on.. I can only imagine how much tinkering the major ammo plants go through when they do a caliber change.
Thanks for the vid. I've loaded 40k rounds in the course of the last year or so on my Hornady. Been wanting to try a 750 at the urging request of my Dillon fanboy friends, but I don't have a big reason to swap yet. I still have to tinker from time to time when new issues come up (currently dealing with the EZject acting up and some primers seeming to snap into the case), which can make the grass look greener.
Glad you mentioned the Mag-P bullet feeder down in the comments. Seems like a very affordable compromise between manually loading bullets and buying a $500 mr bullet feeder.
I was looking into the 1050 from my LNL but found the revolution mark 7 but the price has me waiting
This is great review I'm surprised it doesn't have more views.
Thanks, I tried to keep it as equal/even/honest (based on how I use them) as possible.
Informative and enjoyable to watch. Thank you for this effort. I sold my LEE 1000 years ago and now looking to begin again. I'm leaning toward the HORNADY simply because I can walk into BASSPRO and buy off the shelf with cash. I get that each company has their quirks and will require some tweaking to reach peak performance and so in my opinion this is a FORD vs CHEVY argument. My needs are simple with only 2 calibers. Also, the therapy aspect of this activity I do miss. Thanks again and take care.
Thanks. Much has changed on both presses over the last few years, so maybe it's time to do an update version of this comparison video.
Thank you for an unbiased review bro...well done
I use to have the LNL ammo plant all the bells and whistles. Struggled to make ammo with it until I gave up trying. Sat for about a yr. Saw a video on dillon with the RL1100, Got it set up the same way. With in an hour with tweaking .40 was rolling off. Not sure why the LNL didn't work for me. But good to see yours is.
The Hornady bullet feeder works very well for me now. When I first got it says on it NOT for lead bullets, well I knew my lead bullets were bigger than typical jacketed or copper plated, so I took some fine grit sandpaper on a dowel and polished / opened up a collet, then I took a small jeweler's file and rounded all the edges where the collet is split 4 ways, that took care of all jagged edges, after that I smooth operation 99% of the time. When it doesn't want to drop the bullet you have to push the column of bullets up because that one last bullet is stuck and of course you have follow Hornady's recommendation to flare the case mouth enough for bullet to drop, this is where I found the inconsistencies in my range pickup brass will lead to some necks being not being flared enough, so you might need to little bit extra to be more reliable. I am using Lee Expander die with NOE expanding plug which I've read is like Lyman M die. It expands enough neck so that the bullet drops straight without any tilting which is what I saw in your video and same thing happens when you use Lee powder through expander that comes with 9mm die set. Instead of aluminum Hornady tubes I got polycarbonate clear tubes off Amazon and I cut them to 1 and 2 feet lengths, it's more narrow inside and keeps more pointy bullets straight, works really well and I get to see my bullet stack.
I load lead 98% of the time and also had to polish the collet year ago as well for things to operate smoothly.
Also i have a LNL AP and i did some tinkering soley for the 9mm but i thinks that both do a very good job
I really like aspects of both.
The RCBS Pro Chucker seems to be a breeding of Blue & Red to make Green.
- The left hand use that you noted on the Hornady is present
- The priming system is in the rear of the press away from the operator.
- A tool head verses the lock & load adapters
- 5 or 7 stations
- The powder measures are all about equal as far as pros & cons.
- Problem is they are rare and not many reviews.
- RCBS does not seem to be trying to sell them.
Thanks for the video. It is a great comparison.
The LNL bushings are cheaper than toolhead. $20 for 6 in Cabelas. I like the APC strip on RCBS, I am using for hand priming already. If they only made 5 stations on toolhead with powder being separate. Now you mentioned 7 stations - I never seen or heard of it.
Thank you for your video! I like your honesty! I have seen too many Blue fanboys! I have Hornady LNL AP and would love to have Dillion press as well. I have been watching a lot of youtube. I can see that red/blue presses are great! It is all about preferences. Simple as that! Thank you!
Dale Fine sorry Dale but it’s not a matter of preference. I’ve had many different progressive presses. The new/recent LNL was a sorry disaster. Every system was defective at one time or another during a loading session. I ended up selling it at a cowboy action shoot and lost about 50% off purchase price. I was loading about 25,000 rounds per year for my wife and I on a Dillon 1050 with no issues unless I caused them. So I bought a LNL for the convenience of caliber conversion but just had too many issues with it. Main problems were but not limited to shell plate not indexing precisely( so no primer seating ease)case feeder inconsistency , shell plate machined improperly (bought a new one) still didn’t work,dirt building up in primer system, I could go on but its just not worth any more of my time. If you have a LNL that works good for you.
I have the same 3D printed case feeder, except my collator is printed, I might pick one up from lee. I see that you have a clear tube between the sliding part and 4 tube holder, you actually don't need that tube if you shorten that (mine has threaded piece that screws in only about 1/4" extending) you can lower the bolt that holds the whole thing making it more rigid - less swaying of the tubes as shorter bolt distance will have less flex.
Yea the Hornady 9mm/380 bullet feeder is finicky. It flawless with some and a nightmare on others to the point of not using it for the challenging rounds. Jacket material and base shape play a big role I’ve discovered. It runs 147gr XTPs like butter with 100% feed rate. It likes the boat tail and FMJ on the 147gr XTP. Berry’s 124gr plater is another story. I don’t even bother breaking it out for anything that is plated.
This is on a Hornady LNL and thousands of rounds of 9mm with countless hours troubleshooting it.
Thanks for the comparison video. I was thinking about selling the LNL and going with a Dillon to get away from the issues I have with the LNL shell plate system but doesn’t seem like the juice is worth the squeeze. At least for their 750 model.
I’m not interested in dropping 2K on their higher end models right now.
The 2x4 bullet/case loading thingy you made is clever. Im gonna copy that.
Travis Powell - just an FYI, I have a more recent video (2 I think) that cover an updated/improved (and smaller) version that works for both 45 ACP and 9mm
Nice review. I like that case feeder you have on your LnL. The Hornady case feeder is the most frustrating piece of reloading equipment I have ever owned. Great when it works but has far too many bugs. I'm tired of messing with it. It's the singe reason I am considering switching to Dillon.
I absolutely LOVE my v1 (there is now a v4) LnL case feeder. Once I got the correct size tubes for 45 ACP, it's been a trouble-free component ever since. That coupled with my Mag-P bullet feeder (you can see that demo in a later video) means I'm not touching brass/bullets for over a 100 rounds. My mechanical combo of the case feeder and the Mag-P bullet feeder tubes effectively gives me an Ammo Plant at a fraction of the cost (and headache...I prefer mechanical stuff for certain tasks).
Thanks for the video. Where did you get the case feeder for your hornady
The differences in the two I have found are; case plates on the Dillon better, low primer alarm better, powder drops slightly more accurate, I find Dillon carbide does better, customer service/assistance always stellar with Dillon no matter how old my press is. Just my .02
Thanks! Appreciate you sharing.
Thanks for this comparison video. I'm interested in both these presses. I don't know how much difference it would make, but I would do something about the bench wobble. A really solid bench helps all presses work better. The bench's motion can contribute to powder drop consistency, bullets tipping or not feeding right, cases and primers not feeding quite right, etc. Interesting about the primer decapping issue, I recall having that exact problem at some point in the past. I had forgotten about it, good to be reminded. Each press has some better ideas, unfortunately due to patents and so on there cannot be one press that has all the best stuff on it from the factory, though we can combine things from several manufacturers ourselves. I have mixtures of parts on all my presses to make them "better than stock".
Alan Biocca - I'm very satisfied with how I have both presses currently configured (just added the Mag-P bullet feeder to both presses and LOVE them) and both operate so equally that neither is better than the other. I agree about bench/mount wobble with the presses, but given my limited space, the Inline Fab mounts are are great trade off, no regrets.
Same here I am currently looking at both. Was leaning towards the LNL because I can get it free as a gift. Was wondering if Dillon is worth the extra $$$ . I've been using a lee loadmaster for years without any issues. So if they are about even I may be better off with the LNL strictly based on price. Save my $$$ for other pieces of equipment
I'm fighting the primer system on my LNL AP at the moment, primers should seat below flush but they do not in the Hornady. I have an old Dillon 450 upgraded to 550 that seats the primers fine but doesn't have auto index and only has 4 stations. The current price of the Hornady is getting close to the Dillon which seems to be a little bit more refined and includes half the case feed system. So far in my experience the Hornady seems to require more fiddling and some of the issues are not 'resolved'. Hornady support seems to say they've never seen your problem before while Dillon support has seen it and has an answer for it. They're both good presses but I've never seen anyone give up on the Dillon primer system whereas lots of folks don't use the Hornady AP priming system anymore and they prime off-progressive. Anyway we'll continue to fiddle with the LNL primer insufficient seating depth issue and see if it can be resolved once and for all.
@@ReLoadersBench I don't think the Inline Fab mount is flexing much, but I can see in the video that the bench itself is moving. Some struts triangulating things might help there. There's also a screw on the Inline Fab mount to take up the looseness in the back of the mount, that should be adjusted if there is play in the mount itself.
@@alanb76 There is slight flexing with the Inline Fab mount simply because the top plates for the flush mount system have about 1.5" of overhang and then there is the press' overhang in addition. The flexing is acceptable to me (I have an LCT that has a custom riser and Inline Fab custom plate that weighs next to nothing, but due to the custom plate and 4" overhang, has more flexing than either my XL750 or my LnL - I have an old video of that mount/press).
I also did a video of a mobile stand I made many years ago based on GavinToobe/Ultimate Reloader's plans on his website. He had a 4" steel square column bolted to the floor for zero flex. My version (I think in the same video as my "mounts video") of the stand is mobile as I wanted to be able to move it around the garage. Zero press flex, but still stand "movement" albeit only slightly. I'm working with Dan @ Inline now to come up with a solution that would allow me to convert my LnL dedicated mobile stand to one that will accept interchangeable top plates so I can put any press on that stand as well. Will do a video on that once's it's ready.
Bigo4185 (maybe he's more of a tire guy than a reloading press guy) commented my bench is "unstable" (and referenced some of your comments). Totally disagree. The bench weighs a ton (all steel and a 2" thick butcher block top measuring 2'x5' and all my gear/presses puts that bench into the hundreds of pounds. It is, however, on front locking industrial casters, so there will be movement to some degree. Acceptable to me given my location/space constraints and still the ability to swap out presses and move the bench around when needed.
I've got both as well, 650 and LNL and feel the same. Both took some slight tinkering both run good
I was hoping by sharing my experiences from building/using both presses (versus folks who own one and bash the other) it wouldn't come across as one being better or more superior than the other (something I've heard/read for years...from both camps). They each take slightly different approaches, both working equally well. Half a dozen of one, six of another.
@@ReLoadersBench I have a Dillon 650 love it but I'm getting a Hornady LNL AP instead of a xl 750 because I wanted to try something new. Had my 650 for nearly 15 years and really like the upgrades of the 750 but not wanting to spend that much on a new press. I wish Dillon would do trade ins but no such luck.
@@stephenl65 Just be prepared to do a good amount of tinkering with the Hornady before it runs smoothly. I spent some good time tuning mine before it ran smoothly.
@@Mk927 I got my hornady press and have loaded about a thousand rounds on it. I have to say for some reason I feel more connected with the hornady than the Dillon. Meaning when using my Dillon it's just boom boom boom done, with the Hornady I feel it more and it seems smoother or maybe it just flows better. Not sure but the Dillon with all the upgrades I have done still gives me fits on powder spills.
The Hornady Bulletfeeder Die works fine for me if the cases are flared enough. How much to flare is in the die manual. No adjustment of the feeder die helps if the case has too little flare. For 9mm, around .385 " does the trick for me. I can have +70 bullets in my feeder tube sitting on top of the feeder die.
excellent video, thanks!! I currently run a 550B with a case feeder and its a solid machine, but it does have its quirks. The priming system needs to be cleaned non stop from junk coming from de-priming. Adding a case feeder removed the need to take my hand off the handle. Spent primers are a 50/50 on making it into the bin or flying off in random locations, LOL. The powder measure is an inconsistent hot mess that I replaced with a Lee autodrum. Now I'm not saying the 550 is bad, it's not in anyway. Have loaded thousands of rounds on it and it keeps rolling good ammo. But as you say, a press is a press and they all have their issues and must be maintained.
I've looked very long and hard at the LnL and the 750 as I want to step up to bullet feeding and case feeding(20k+ rounds a year will do that to a guy, LOL) and I am going to go red for 2 reasons only. The half indexing is much smoother than the dillon and I will have much less powder spillage issues. Watching you running both I can see how much more violently the dillon indexes causing powder to slop more, and yes .1gr difference on my loads can drop PF by 4-5 and thats not good for match ammo. 2nd, the hornady powder measure is superior to the dillon, especially when wanting to run a bullet feeder. Having to buy a different special charge bar or remove the failsafe, or replacing it completely just adds to the cost of the dillon.
Once again, awesome vid and thank you so much for your time!!
Thanks, appreciate the well though out response. I should do an update comparison video as a few things have been added to both presses ;-)
I've had trouble with the Honady bullet feeder die as well. Sometimes it would work great, and then out of the blue it stops dropping reliably. Very frustrating. The Hornady bullet feeder hopper works very reliably, though.
I just ordered the Double Alpha bullet dropping dies for 9mm and 223, along with mini bullet feeder tubes for each. I am hoping that they work more reliably.
All in all, I agree with your assessment of the two presses - each can be made to work well after some tuning and adjustment. The Hornady press, however, required that I do WAY too much final finishing and polishing to make it run properly/smoothly. For that reason alone, I wouldn't by a LNL AP again. I bought a Dillon XL750, and it has worked flawlessly so far right out of the box. I have only loaded about 1000 rounds of 9mm on it, but it's worked like a champ for me.
Dwight Rahl - I only load 45 ACP in Molly coated cast bullets and found I needed to polish (wet sanded 1000 then 1500 grit) the insides of the Hornady bullet feeding die in order for it to work reliably for me.
You also might want to readjust your powder measure on LnL so it doesn't hit the shell plate when you raise the ram with no cases on it.
Great video, I'm thinking of a smaller investment and want to reload 9mm, 45ACP and 223 so leaning to Hornady without case/bullet feeders for simplicity and cost. Only 9mm would be much volume as I shoot USPSA. Does lack of case/bullet feeder slow things down too much?
Thanks. That video was a few upgrades ago. If you watch this video, you'll see my Unique Parts Case feeding system along with the Socal S&W Mag-P bullet feeding system. Essentially an all mechanical ammo (functionality wise) plant at a fraction of the cost.
th-cam.com/video/27JTI1t0lmU/w-d-xo.html
dillon is superior only if used with the case feeder so if don't use the case feeder i say hornaday is a better buy ,, ive owned pro chucker 7 ,dillon 650, LnL , they all have features that i loved sold everything saving up for a mark 7 ,,,, but my second choice is dillon 650 third 750,, because i always prefer to use a case feeder with a bullet feeder powder check . thanks for the powder spring idea with the dillon 750 by the way..
Very good channel. Just pulled trigger on Hornady AP. Where did you buy the 3D printed case feeder ?
It's on ebay. Look up jc-uniqueparts as the store (I don't think YT likes ebay links)
The powder / bullet sifter is pretty cool idea to add to some low seating on your bench container, but having at the top of the powder drop?? When does anyone pull bullets during progressive run?
I've pulled bullets during a "progressive run" when I missed the fact I was a primer or two short in my tube. I also like the fact I can check powder weight at any time and dump that powder back in without having to remove the powder cap. Convenient.
@@ReLoadersBench I guess everyone has different priorities, I keep the cap on when once I set the charge as sometimes I leave and pickup reloading in a day or few and I want to keep the powder fresh.
How you keep your Dillion XL750 soo clean? Mine is all dirty. When I get distracted, I forget to put a primer in and powder get all over the place and stick to lube. I need to take it out the bench and give it a good cleaning.
This is the main reason my presses stay clean --> th-cam.com/video/Mu8V3nLl74A/w-d-xo.html
I also have an air compressor next to my bench and after each reloading session, once I've emptied my powder from the powder drop, I blow everything off with air, then throw the cover on. My garage gets VERY (sanding, building, etc.) dusty with my projects and the covers make a huge difference.
I am glad I watched this. Being a Hornady AP owner the question is always there...did I pick the right one?
Did you?
And the springs you have on powder bar on the Dillon-where do you buy them?I just bought a Dillon and was told that the springs are a needed mod to be consistent.Thanks.
I bought the springs directly from Dillon (on their spare parts page, dig into any powder measure and scroll down the drop down lists for the springs entry). The are $4 ea and you'll need 2. They charged me almost $9 to ship them and shipping to a week (overpriced and slow shipping IMO). I implemented the spring solution not for consistency (although I've not experienced any issues) , but because I could not use the failsafe powder bar with my die configuration setup.
First case that dropped while loading Hornady case feeder was upside down, will that one just fall through?
Easy enough to catch and flip over. Non-issue for me and I don't believe there is a case feeder made that doesn't have the occasional upside down case.
I know I have seen it around but where did you get the case feeder for the Hornady? Great video.
Found the author on thingiverse.com If you search for "thingiverse hornady case feeder" there are now a number of folks who have taken the design and "run with it" to make their own changes and share the 3-D files. But if you want the one I installed, here's the link to his version: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2488944
Where do you get that brass feeder? Am new to reloading and am about to purchase the Hornady AP?
I did a few older videos on the case feeder (called the vids "poor man's ammo plant") and in the comments are the contact info of the designer/seller.
I'm seeing that if I'm going to be loading less than 500 at a time it's likely that single stage is the way to go, at least for me. The setup, and again, the frustration of various issues throughout the process doesn't seem to be worth it. So, with the T-7 I will continue to be happy with. Thanks again for your videos.
oh, and the best thing that came out of this video was the suggestion of the Vibra-Prime. One of my next purchases for sure. I too hate the primer pickup process. With the T-7's tubes the pickup end is very finicky with the varying diameters of even same batches of primers.
No worries, that's the wonderful thing about reloading...about a gazillion ways to do anything and everyone's preferences vary. I'm beyond happy with my Lee LCT, but I sure would like to take a lool/eval at the Lee Pro 4000 package deal. Best of all worlds possibly. Unfortunately, it will probably be a LONG time before they are back in stock, just like anything reloading press/die/component related.
Same here. Going to stick my Redding T-7 after I see all of the costs and hassles with these progressive presses. I load approx 500 - 1,000 rounds at a time for 9mm and 223/5.56. and mainly do my reloading throughout the Winter since there's not much that can be done outside when it's average of 30 degrees and snow on the ground/ Then come Late Spring, Summer, and early Fall its time to target practice and have some fun on the side with the tannerite
Where did you buy the brass case feeder or where can I get one I like it it runs smooth
Here's a few links to the latest (and in my opinion the current best offering) version of the case feeder you might like better:
Background: th-cam.com/video/CcHuEHEOEEQ/w-d-xo.html
Installation: th-cam.com/video/8p4ewrnYnKw/w-d-xo.html
Reloading 45 ACP: th-cam.com/video/27JTI1t0lmU/w-d-xo.html
I think was a very honest review. Thank you, you’re not for sale…
Trying to keep it real.
where can you get the case feeder for the hornady?
I have some older videos on just the case feeder and have the seller's contact information in some of the comments.
Could you put the links to the reloaders and your mods on here? It is very interesting!
You Tube has..."issues" with posting links for anything related to this hobby. If you need the specific name of a vendor or product I discussed let me know so you can search that out.
Please advise where to get the shell feeder for the lnl
What kind of cap is that on your LNL powder feeder?
It's actually two pieces...one is a powder/bullet strainer from Entirely Crimson and the actual cap (that sits inside/atop the EC strainer) is made by Socal S&W.
What parts and where do i buy the casefeeder that you have for the Dillon?Thanks and great video.
The case feeder is made by Double Alpha.
Will It require a die?I apologize as I just ordered mine but have yet to get it.Im just prepping for ancillaries so that once I finally get it,I can set up and go.Will be setting up for 45ACP for now.Thank you for the quick reply.Im alao buying the vibra prime.Thanks to your video,I got excellent tips.
@@triggersafe1 - the case feeder from Double Alpha comes with everything you need to use immediately. The case feeder sits on top of a plastic tube (green for 9mm in my video) that is supplied as part of the "caliber conversion kit" that ships with the press. So once you install that "tube", the case feeder sits on top of that. The bullet feeder I use (from Socasw.com) does, however, require a die to work. Glad my videos can help. Good luck with your build.
Thank you!!
Super video. Did you get the Double Alpha Mr Bulletfeeder yet? My Dillon friend turned me onto it several years ago for my LnL and it’s excellent, even with cast bullets.
I’m actually now running both presses with Socal SW’s Mag-P mechanical bullet feeders (think Double Alpha Mini Case Feeder only for bullets and not cases - plus it’s machined aliminum, great craftsmanship and value IMO). They work great.
@@ReLoadersBench I’ve heard the SoCal feeder tubes are great. If I get another feeder tube, I’d get the SoCal. Bigger and less plastic. Did you get the Double Alpha Academy bulletfeeder die too? They’re great too.
@@stanleyhammer - No I'm running a Hornady bullet feeding die (as I previously used their aluminum bullet tubes - the Mag-P solution is MUCH better) and I run the AA case feeder on my XL 750
Which one do you recommend for someone who is new to reloading
If you're new to reloading, my personal recommendation would be to begin with a Lee Classic Turret (or their newer Value Turret) as that would cost you 1/4 (or less, depending on which progressive you were to select) the cost of a progressive press while allowing you to learn the process. That being said, there are plenty of folks who begin learning reloading on a progressive press, there's just a lot going on with a progressive that may be a bit overwhelming for some new to reloading.
I started with Lee and still use my Lee press today (as I dedicate calibers to progressive presses as the caliber change is not as quick/easy as you may think). For some it's an ego thing and they may feel a turret (or single stage) is below them. A single stage or turret is, IMO, the best way to learn everything that's going on with reloading. Progressives are meant for speed/volume and can be finicky to dial in, especially for the new reloader. At the end of the day it's a personal choice. If you're going to go with a progressive, you truly can't go wrong with either one and each has pros/cons.
@@ReLoadersBench great advice. I buy a Dillon xl 750 and im new relouder but here In Brazil the press machine was very very expensive for us. I wanted a LCT but it doest was availible on market.
I Totally agree with you the LCT is the best way to begning and do right the same job.
Do you have a link on where the get the brass feeder for the Hornady?
I have some older videos just on the case feeder and the reply comments have the designer/seller info.
@@ReLoadersBench thanks I had discovered that. Thanks for taking the time to get back to me. Mine is on the way.
Sometimes my cases get “stuck” in my powder funnel so I need to use some force, got an answer for it? Your press seems to run smoother than mine the Dillon by the way
My belling target for powder funnel sizing is around .385 on 9mm. Have you measured the outside diameter of a belled case to see what you have dialed in?
Re Loader th outside diameter of a belled cas is now 0.402 inch, yours?
Collin Muntinga - I think that may be the cause of your cases getting stuck. IMO 0.402 is too much belling for 9mm. I personally would dial that down to something between 0.380-0.390. There is a fine line between too little (bullets not “sitting” in case mouth) and too much (cases getting stuck/bullets sitting too deep) belling. Just my .02
I have both red and blue presses but the lnl locked up and won’t index, it won’t turn at all, any idea?
First thought that comes to mind is one of the pawls has sheared off or somehow damaged that won't allow a "grab" to index. I had this happen years ago and it was just enough of a chip off the pawl that stopped me cold.
@@ReLoadersBench I removed the pawls and can’t turn the gear at the bottom by hand, like it’s seize up. Ever head of that. Thanks for the help
Don't you find the Hornady to be a little finicky? Mine took alot of fine tuning to get it to run good and it needs to be observed.
I didn't find my LnL to be any more finicky than my XL750 (have a few videos on my pros/cons). Since none of my presses are automated, by default I'm observing the process as I work any press. Considering the activity of reloading, observing the process is a baseline requirement.
I never noticed how much movement the priming system on the 750 has. It really looks like it extends far into the operator. My overall impression of the 750 is a half @$$ improvement to the 650. It should be 6 or 7 stations, angled C frame, and as you described " left hand " operation isolated from right handed.
Double Dawg Dare you to try an RCBS Pro Chucker Next !!!
Don't get another cap. Machine a small step into the top of the cap so that it will fit inside the bullet strainer upside down. That way you can can put it in the bullet strainer when you are loading, take it off when you need the strainer, then put it back on. Also, you will have a place to put the strainer when you aren't using the machine and you want to seal everything up. Put the original cap you had made on, then put the strainer on top of that cap upside down. You will never misplace either.
"Machine a small step" is the show stopper for me. I don't have a lathe or any other means of machining a small step in this chunk of aluminum.
Owning both I can tell you exactly what is so great about Dillon. Glad you are the exception to the rule,cause everyone I know will say the same. That Hornady needs tinkering constantly.
Didn't know there were rules/exceptions regarding reloading presses/manufactures. I do know there are personal preferences and zealots when it comes to reloading equipment and their respective vendors. Back to the Ford/Chevy, BMW/Mercedes, Mac/PC or Android/iOS position. People like different products/vendors for different reasons. But, at the end of the day, a car/computer/phone is a car/computer/phone and a progressive press is a progressive press. Dillon makes a quality product, as does Hornady. Both do the exact same thing, make quality ammo albeit each have varying characteristics of how they implement on their platforms. If they didn't work, their sales would dwindle and they'd go out of business or discontinue an unsuccessful product or business line. That doesn't seem to be the case, though. I also fail to see "what is so great about Dillon". Configured the same, my XL750 and LnL perform the same. Pull the ram, make a bullet. No angels singing with either press. There are things I like as well as dislike on each press. Glad I own both to make that statement of experience from building/configuring and using both as well. Maybe it's a user error thing.
I think folks put filters on for whatever reason...maybe to justify money spent. I used to tell myself that every $1,000 I spent on my repairs for my just out of warranty BMW (almost like clockwork once the warranty expired) was worth it because of the label that was on the hood/trunk, not realizing the Ford in the driveway that had never been in the shop for a repair was always there for us to use reliably. After all, everyone "knows" BMWs are so much better than Fords, right? Paying more for a product doesn't inherently make it a better product. It does, however, create a customer base that believes and promotes that product as being better because it's more expensive and therefore must be better. I have friends that believe/state their Macs are SO much better than Windows based machines. I use both...and just like reloading presses, each does things a bit differently...but both do the same thing...at different price points. Bells and whistles come at a cost and we all do our own cost benefit analysis to justify what/why we purchase a particular product.
Glad you feel your Dillon is great. Also glad all my non-Dillon presses all appear to be exceptions to some rule I'm not aware of. Comforting to know I received the only working or trouble fee presses those non-Dillon manufactures apparently produced. I consider myself very lucky.
Forgot to mention, can't remember the last time I had to "tinker" with my LnL.
@@curtislong1987 - I'll keep this short so you won't have any trouble getting through it. Maybe you should read my "book" as it was a thoughtful and honest reply to your comment. You have time to type a comment, but not to read my response. Imagine that. No nerve struck, as I have hands and feet in multiple vendor camps regarding reloading. Every camp has zeolots and it appears you and all your friends are in the same camp. It is what it is.
@@curtislong1987 - Apple apparently didn't fall far from the tree. Short, simple minded comments from someone who can't digest/read/understand a detailed response.
@@curtislong1987 - Hey CL, how about creating some content on YOUR empty channel so we can comment of your stuff? Those who can't create critic those who do. Love keyboard critics/warriors.
I deleted my comments, I will try to take the higher road here. I was a bit rude. As for you, check the ego,it doesn't make you wrong or someone else bad cause they disagree with you.
I'm brand new to the reloading world. I was tired of waiting for ammo. I have a Tikka T3x in 6.5PRC .Pretty sure i agree with you on the LnL ap and ordered it today... I like the swing arm tray holder and would like to have one as well. Who did you say the manufacturer was? ...I heard Double Alpha mentioned but not sure if the tray holder was theirs. Thanks
Welcome to the wonderful world of reloading. Careful, it’s an addicting hobby! All my press mounts and tray mounts/accessories are from Inline Fabrication. Top notch stuff from Dan and company.
@@ReLoadersBench do they have a website?
@@mellowgunny7885 inlinefabrication.com
Comparing bone stock Hornady Lnl or Dillon 750, which would you buy if you were a novice just starting out?
This will be a Ford/Chevy kind of thing. Also depend on your reloading intent (e.g., rifle match loads vs. high volume plinking) Take my comments with a grain of salt because they are my perspectives (but that won't stop the Dillon fan boys from freaking out or disagreeing with MY opinion). Here are some point to ponder:
1. Most novices or reloaders just starting out will naturally be focused on price. The stock LnL is about 1/2 the price of a stock XL750.
2. I'm not a fan of the Dillon powder measure (or the failsafe rod restrictions) at all. LnL powder measure is better in my opinion
3. I prefer my primer feeding tube to be in the rear of the press (LnL) instead of the front (XL750) because I need to grab the frame to move it from mount to mount or storage. Impossible to wrap my hand around the front frame of the XL750 to move the press as the primer feeding tube is in the way (probably not an issue for a beginner).
4. Tool head removal/swap on XL750 vs. pulling the LnL quick change bushings. For a complete caliber change, maybe faster/cleaner/easier on the XL750 as it's one unit vs. multiple/individual dies on the LnL. But, if you only want to pull one die (e.g., your brass is already sized/primed), that's easier/faster to do on the LnL than the XL750. Also, if you plan on multiple calibers on your press, it may be more expensive on the XL750 depending on how you implement (tool head with dedicated powder drop or reusing your powder drop across different calibers).
5. Warranty and customer service are a wash IMO. Again, the fan boys will probably disagree. I was not overwhelmed/impressed with my call/parts request to Dillon. I've had great/less than great CS with Hornady as well, depends on you you get on the other end of the phone.
6. Setup is about the same on both presses. There is timing adjustments for the shell plate on the LnL are done with easily accessible pawls. The XL750 locator spring for primer seating adjustment is located near the shell plate.
7. Primer size swap/setup is about the same level of time/effort IMO.
8. Dealing with a stuck primer in the primer feeding tube is similar, albeit a bit faster IMO (one hex bolt) on the LnL to remove.
9. XL750 comes with a "mini" case feeding tube that you can stack a handful of cases in w/o having to buy a case feeder. Hand feeding all cases on stock LnL.
10. Stock ram handles are same on both machines.
11. "Smoothness" of shell plate rotation is same, IMO, on both machines.
12. I'm right handed, so on the LnL, right hand operates the press, left hand deals with inserting brass casings and bullets. On the XL750, right hand will also do ram and brass cases (feeding included mini tube or individually like the LnL if not using the tube or if you don't opt for a case feeder) and left hand will handle bullets.
13. Finished round output is on the left side of the LnL, right side of the XL750
14. I mount my presses on Inline Fabrication mounts, which are available for both presses (something a beginner may not be interested in at first...until you get your second press and then regret the holes you put in your bench for the first press ;-)
15. For dies, I'm all over the board. I have a mix of Lee, RCBS and Hornady on my presses. I'm not a fan of overpaying for a name brand. If a die didn't do what it was designed to do, it wouldn't sell and would quickly be "outed" in the reloading community. Some folks believe the more you pay for dies, the better they perform. However, that being said, more expensive dies, in some cases, offer more features, so keep that in mind. YMMV.
16. Not a fan of the Dillon die lock rings. Some love them for their "simplicity". I think they are thin and cheesy compared to just about every other manufacturer. Again, my opinion. I also don't like to have to buy a lock ring wrench for every different type of die I own.
17. Overall performance is the SAME in my experience. Each press does what it is supposed to very well. Each press needs tinkering and adjustment to work correctly. Function wise, that are equal IMO.
18. Upgradeability. Both manufactures (and after market vendors) offer case and bullet feeding options to turn either machine into more automated (at least bullet and case feeding) machines. There are VERY high end (and VERY expensive) automation options for the XL750 that are NOT available, to my knowledge, for the LnL (Mark VII comes to mind). Something a novice would probably not be interested in.
So, take these comments (and they are just that, my comments) and put them through your use case filter of requirements (what you intend to do, price, preferences, etc.) and you can draw you own conclusion on which direction you want to head. I'm happy and satisfied with either brand for different reasons.
@@ReLoadersBench Thank you.
If you are just starting out I highly urge you to start with a single stage press. Single stage is better for consistency when accuracy matters. Once you got the hang of it then go with a progressive. Easy to make mistakes with a progressive vs a single stage
@@200130769 - I do not disagree with this approach (as even a "seasoned" reloader can/will have challenges with progressive presses). But I would add that if you opt to go single stage to learn, I'd put my .02 in for the Lee Classic Turret (LCT). I have a few videos on that press from years ago on my channel. Without the indexing rod, this press is the functional equivalent of a single stage press. Once you add the indexing rod, it becomes a "progressive like" in that each stroke of the ram will perform a different function, but only on the same bullet. Faster than a single stage BY FAR, but also slower than a progressive. For multiple calibers, you can't beat the LCT in my opinion. Best universal press, again, IMO.
@@200130769 I think I may go with the Lee Value Turret. It's kind of in between as far as complication and speed. I'm not wanting to load more than a couple hundred 9mm rounds a week at most. Thanks for your input.
How do you stop the shell plate keep coming loose on the Hornady ?
You need to tighten it real tight. Moreso than you are able with your hands.
In addition to the large allen key to tighten the shellplate screw, get a skinnier one as well (or similar long L-shaped metal). While the ram is down, manually rotate the shell plate one half turn to reveal the spent primer hole. Stick the thinner allen key into the hole. This will block the shell plate from moving. Now you can tighten the shell plate screw much tighter. Don't overtighten obviously, but you'll figure out how much you can do it to keep it tight indefinitely.
I use Hornady's wrench...good idea for a short video ;-)
Add a lock washer. You don’t need to crank it down that hard as mentioned above.
Put a drop of medium thread locker on the bolt. I tighten mine hand tight then give it about a
16th turn with the Allen wrench. It's not to be cranked down imo.
Wanna get one but who has the 9mm dies or pistol primers, everyone is sold out.
Probably the worst time to start reloading in the last 10 years that I can remember. EVERYTHING is so hard to come by currently. That being said, no better reason/motivation than what's going on now to get into reloading! I've found supplies show up in cycles. Don't approach reloading with a "buy it all at once or not at all" perspective. Put your list together and start going after whatever you can find. Procure over time. You'll also discover, as many of us who reload (and my videos are evidence this fact), you NEVER stop picking up things that make the hobby/process more enjoyable. Good luck in your search and the beginning of your reloading journey. Welcome to the club!
I do ten drops, measure all those together, then divide by ten to get the average.
I’d think an o-ring on your custom cap would make it fit the strainer
Too tight of a fit/seal and unnecessary IMO. Works fine for me as is.
Perfect video..I'm just getting into reloading and I was stuck on these 2 presses ..I'm pretty sure I'm going with the lock and load ..but I do have a question for you ..what do you think about lee presses? To me the LAL and Dillon look to be very well made ..that's why I kinda didnt want to mess with a Lee press...I dont mind spending the money for a good product.
Load master works well
If you look at some of my older videos, you'll see an assortment of Lee presses. My absolute FAVORITE press (of ALL my presses) is my Lee Classic Turret. Best bang for the buck period IMO. If I had to choose to keep only one press, that would be the one I keep. I bought extras over the years (used) so I'd never have a breakage that stopped me. The LCT is made like a tank. I am a HUGE Lee fan. Great value for the dollar. They get bashed a lot (undeservedly IMO) due to their lower cost. Some folks feel the only good equipment is overpriced or expensive gear. Lee got me into reloading affordably and I continue to pick up Lee gear (APP for Christmas).
@@ReLoadersBench yes sir ..I'm more of a range loader ..that all I want to do ..because the price of ammo is just way to high ..I want someone that's good but also something I can keep adding to the reloader ...I only shoot 223/556 9mm and 45acp ...is the lee press good enough to reload 223 mostly..I saw in a video that the Lee press is more for pistol ammo ...
Let make it short. Which reloader do you like overall the best???
read my comments at the bottom that says "spoiler alert". Answers your question as does the end of the video.
@@ReLoadersBench you must work as a politician.. presses're all equal .. :) and no one is upset.
Ooooo, I like to do the little step. Now you see me, now you don't.
As far as 9mm FMJ and the Hornady bullet feeder... It's nothing but a pain in the ass that really doesn't work. It works great with HAP (Hornady Action Pistol) or Hollowpoints. Round nose FMJ, forget it. Just load FMJ manually.
See my relatively recent video on the "new" Lee Precision Bullet Feeding Die. All my prayers answered!
Rerally wish I would of seen this video before I spent so much on a dillion
I have no regrets about purchasing the XL 750. It's not a LnL and the LnL is not an XL 750. Neither (IMO) are better or worse than the other, just different in how they accomplish the same task. Ultimately, a reloaded round is a reloaded round and no one would be able to tell the difference in which press produced it and or any differences in round performance. Enjoy your press.
How much is in a shit ton? Never herd of that unit of measure.
just shy of "hella bunch"...
generally, I tend to use the metric equivalent the "fuckton"
DUDE YOU NEED A DILLON STRONG MOUNT ! All that Shaking,Swaying and Extra movement is Causing Alot of Your Troubles. Get One You'll Be Very Happy You Did...Take Care, Shoot Well, Be Happy...
Mate, the whole bench is moving, a strong mount can't fix that.
Great video only thing I would suggest don't put your primer tube laying side-ways
Noted, thanks.
O have the lnl. Only issur i ever had woth it was the priner system. I nust hand orine now and life is good
He's the BOB ROSS of reloading
Paul T Powers - all I need now is some Magic White...
needs a more solid table. too much movement when pressing out rounds
table is quite solid (at a few hundred pounds with everything on it and made of steel and 2" butcher block top), but it is on wheels so there will always be a "movement" trade off for my level of acceptable performance.
Hornady bullet feeder die is tricky. Really only likes jacketed bullets. No plated, no cast lead. At least not out of the box I have a couple spare collets I have modified to work with played and cast but I prefer to avoid them.
I ended up moving my bullet feeding solution to another platform...the Mag-P by SocalSW. 6x the capacity of a single Hornady Tube and no issues with bullet type. I am sure I highlighted it in a later video.
@@ReLoadersBench yeah ive seen that system, however I have the hornady electric hopper for mine, the daa bullet feeder die has remedied most of my issues.
If you don’t have money for dillon casefeeder, why you just have not bought Lee manual casefeeder and not mounted it to dillon? I had it like that for few years and it worked. Well, when it worked, like everything from Lee.
I'm a big Lee fan...as I've professed to in many of my videos. There is no easy way that I'm aware of to mount a Lee case feeder to a Dillon XL750. I chose the Double Alpha case feeder that is made for a Dillon.
Well it’s very easy, just use a piece of metal rod shaped to L and screw it where original casefeeder rod is, directly on body, than on top of L shape just scree Lee case feeder.
Like this:
m.th-cam.com/video/tGzmlvhcJyk/w-d-xo.html
or you can 3d print the collator like for Lee but for DAA case feeder for 6 tubes.
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3496028
Anyway, personally I got rid of these “solutions” causing more trouble than worth it and went with Dillon case feeder. It’s silent and works like it’s supposed to work. No problems with Dillon press whatsoever.
I was not a fan of the 650. Too much plastic in the internals. Not sure if the 750 uses as much plastic. Personally I would choose the 550 over to Lock N Load or 650 but that is just my personal preference as I do not care for auto indexing. And before comments I have had zero double charges or squib load in tens of thousands of reloads.
how do they compare to the Loadmaster?
I own a few Lee presses, however, the Loadmaster is not one of them so I cannot comment on a comparison. I have stated before that if I had to have only one press, it would be my Lee Classic Turret. Given the number of press redesigns Lee has done over the last few years, I'm thinking (and waiting for) they are going to refresh the Load master and incorporate some of the elements that have gone into the APP, Value Turret, Pro 1000, Auto Breech Lock Pro, etc.
Omg! I’ll just keep my Lee Turret Presses.
Me too ;-) Love my LCTs
I have both as well, side by side.
I have the d a bullet and case feeder on the Dillon. Some type of case feeder is basically a must on the Dillon, unless you like stopping every 20 rounds or so.
I have only the bullet feeder on the lnl. Neither is truly necessary on the lnl because as you stated you can easily keep your right hand on the handle, and place a case on the shell plate and a bullet on the prepped case with your left hand. I’m left handed.
I’m truly surprised you like dialing in a load on the Dillon. I despise it. Dealing with those “buttons” on the Dillon versus just pulling the case out slightly and checking the load on the lnl? Needing a wrench for the Dillon? Really? Ug. I’ve replaced one of the springs you mentioned on the lnl in too many rounds (and years) to count.
The shell plate “half” advance on the lnl definitely leads to less (no) power grains on your shell plate.
I didn’t like all the clanking and noise out of the Dillon fail safe rod at first, now I find it to add to the rhythmic motion of reloading.
Opinion: the Dillon is a far better looking machine. One is at least as nice as the other, as per your observations.
I’m going to put a lnl powder dropper on the Dillon. If you you buy any upgrades for the Dillon (bearing kit, powder drop micrometer (like the lnl) etc.) you’re going to have a lot more money in the Dillon.
The caliber change over on the Dillon is easier (better), faster, etc. AS LONG AS you have the pre set up tool heads, which again, are much more expensive than the lnl.
They’re both great.
Great comments, thanks. Agreed..."they're both great" and having/using both only reinforces my opinion that each have pros/cons and neither is above/better or below/worse than the other. I also understand there will be those who only own/prefer one and therefore have to bash the other to validate their choice/purchase.
Using an Aluminum corner profile is easier than making a wooden bullet tube feeder.
Maybe so, but not as challenging, rewarding or nearly as good looking ;-)
@@ReLoadersBench But please think of all this shiny Aluminium greeting you when you feel the urge to fill the bullet tubes :-)
The biggest difference is the Dillon has a reliable case feeder (factory) and the Hornady does not
Not a factor in either of my Hornady/Dillon presses as I have mechanical case feeders on each, nothing electronic from either vendor.
That is because you got lucky with Hornady press and did not have to ship it 4 times back for repairs.
Nikolai Semenoff - I guess so. I also realize there is NOT a SINGLE product mass produced across any industry/product line that doesn't have lemons. It's a bummer when you get a lemon.
@@ReLoadersBench That is a very true statement.
I dont know how you load with any accuracy or consistency the way your bench flops around like a rag in the wind. Of coarse you cant feel a difference between the two presses. Not knocking either one they are both reputable companies.
"flops around like a rag in the wind"...LOL. Another keyboard critic. I went over to your channel to see how rock solid your bench/press combo is to get an idea of what press flex elimination looks like and OMG...wouldn't you know it...ZERO videos to demonstrate your assessment and expertise in showing us all how a press should be mounted to an ultimate, "flop" free bench. SMH. I'll take the "flops around like a rag in the wind" trade off for the size/mobility combination of my bench. Based on my Labradar validation of my XL750 9mm loads, I'm right were I'm supposed to be, so you can now rest assured my setup is completely capable of loading accurate/consistent rounds.
@@ReLoadersBench Ahhh a little thin skinned I see. Just some constructive criticism. Unlike some I dont need nor want youtube fame but have at it.
@@patrickjoy9551 - Actually not thin skinned at all, just tired of stupid comments. I had, what I thought, was a great response, but honey bunch thinks you might not be able to handle the comment. So I'll just leave it at troll on friend.
@@ReLoadersBench Call me a troll if you want but there is merit in my observation. Anyone who has reloaded much knows a solid bench is pretty important for a host of reasons. Didnt mean to hurt your feels but the truth hurts some. Just trying to make your loading experience better so your followers are better served but carry on. Best wishes
Saw this comment and your response. Didn't spend but 30 seconds on your video when I saw this. You will promptly get a thumbs down and won't bother with your video or your opinion. A person who cannot handle criticism while putting info on the internet is a terrible character flaw. Just because he has no videos is not relevant to his statement. If you didn't have a video on your channel about food, are you qualified to comment on the taste of food you get at a restaurant? Exactly. What a petulant response. And how stupid to call someone a troll because they had a comment you didn't like.
You need to ditch the Hornady bullet feeder die and get the daa bullet feeder die. No issues with any type of bullet, coated lead, jacketed, etcetera, puts the Hornady die to shame!
Dillon is Dillon ...
As I have come to know...
I don't know how people own 2, 3 our 4 presses.
I don’t know how people can only own one press...
After you spend ungodly sums for the Dillon, then you get to go buy all the things you need to actually make it work right. No thanks.
hornady bullet feeder is crap. as is all Hornady reloading equipment from my experience. Replaced with Forster co-ax and dillon 1050. so much happier
You can return the Dillon! You seem to love Hornady. Buy a Hornady!
For sure I'm a Hornady fan (confused by your "buy a Hornady" comment as this video SHOWS my Hornady LnL )...and an even bigger Lee Precision fan. It's amazing all the Dillon fan boys who can't stand anyone pointing out any short comings or things that other manufacturers have overcome or implemented better than Dillon. The blue kool-aid is strong among this crowd.
@@ReLoadersBench Yes I have 3 Dillon XL750's and 2 XL 650's. I use these extensively and they work great! I put a few upgrades on them like can indexer roller bearings, Thrust bearings for the shell plate and case feeder. You don't seem to like your Dillon and that's OK. Your Dillon does not seem to be a Dillon it is evolved into a mishmash who knows what. I am also an engineer and sometimes you can make one too many changes.
@@BigO4185 - Once again, interesting comments. "You don't seem to like your Dillon...". Where do I ever say that general statement in any of my videos. Nowhere, that's where. You are over generalizing....something I would not think an engineer would do. In my videos I do point out specific things I don't like that Dillon has implemented/kept on the XL750 (such as the powder measure and it's limitations). Have never stated I dislike the press, however. That's just the Dillon fan base taking offense to ANY blue criticisms. Just like I don't like certain things about Hornady's or Lee's components. I comment in my videos what I like/dislike about any of my stuff. Doesn't have me abandoning the platform though. Everything has either a workaround or alternative solution. I'm apparently not a purist like others here.
And as far as your comment about my XL750 "does not seem to be a Dillon it is evolved into a mishmash of who knows what" makes absolutely ZERO sense for someone who's, again, an engineer to make. This ridiculous comment is akin to saying a car brand (insert your fav brand, don't want to be presumptuous by saying BMW) is no longer that brand because you swapped out the factory tires, rims or put a spoiler on it. Truly idiotic and you just took yourself down to the bottom rung of logic in my book, regardless of how many 750's/650's you run along with your upgrades that apparently don't evolve YOUR presses into a mishmash of who knows what. Beyond dumb, really.
And by the way BigO, how about posting your own videos so the rest of us can comment on your level of whatever? Love the keyboard critics who have NO content but have plenty to say about other people's content.
good video reloader and even better replies, elitist fan boy lost face. im about to upgrade my lee pro 1000 that i use for 38sp plink ammo. this was helpfull thank you
says they are the same, then talks about all the stuff that had to be done to one to make it run like the other...
Two presses couldn't be more identical. They are the same..."children" from a different father. Only differences are how certain aspects are implemented (e.g., primer system/location, powder charge, etc.). Other than the color, same same. "all the stuff that had to be done to one to make it run like the other" was done on purpose to actually see if one was different (better?) than the other when configured the same. People will always complain. If they weren't configured the same, someone would complain it was an unfair comparison if their preferred press didn't fair well. I configure them the same and you have issues with what had to be added to one to make it run like the other. SMH.
TLDR - Starts out with "Don't see the big deal about Dillon"... then points out all the reasons the Dillon was better.
and you'd also notice I point out what I like on the LnL better than the Dillon. NEVER once said the "Dillon is better", did point out certain THINGS I liked on the Dillon more so (or better) than on the Hornady and then did the same pointing out what I like on the Hornady more so (or better) than on the Dillon. Guessing you didn't watch the entire video.
also looks like you didn't read the video description with the following comments:
Spoiler Alert: Each press does the same thing very well. They both load their respective calibers with an excellent finished product. Although each press does the same task, each one does it a bit differently in certain areas and I point out what I like/dislike about each press. At the end of the day after having worked on both presses and having them so closely configured, there is no blue/red better than red/blue. No "OMG", I've seen the light and one press is SO much better than the other. In fact, they are, IMO, completely equal for how I have them set up and running.
I found that if you use hornady bullet they feed better
Jeremy Ames - Have too many other brands and went ahead and ordered the Double Alpha bullet feeder to try.
Re Loader get electric one, if you don’t have money for Mr Bulletfeeder, get 3d printed one. I really don’t see a point to manually fill the tubes to have bullet feeding, when if you place them directly on case you will save a lot of time. Electric one well, that’s something else and I’m happy I made one, especially for small .223 bullets.
dude stop filming your idiosyncrasies and film re-loading please
Sorry...my idiosyncrasies are me and I'm my idiosyncrasies...so you're just going to have to deal with it or not watch my vids...