It's not really a joke, a 3070 does cost more than the average '1st car' of poor people. My 1st car is worth about 500 Euros now so it falls into line.
@@HDJess wow what car? that's dirt cheap, I have a decent car that cost me north of 20 grand. Did you have to do any work to it to get it to run? Generally here cheaper cars I think go for 1200-1500USD as far as I am aware
Steve a little feedback can you please start using different colours for bar graphs of different GPUs so its clearer to distinguish between them in head to head comparisons or revisits
Main problem of low VRAM isn't really the post processing and all those makeup, but the texture, with 3GB, you are stuck at lower quality texture, even worse than 1050ti, and texture is one of the absolutely cheapest way for you to improve a game's visual without severe performance drop (provided that VRAM and bandwidth is sufficient).
@@ivyssauro123 true, in games like red dead 2 the lowest textrure settings make the game look absolutely horrible. the ultra textures arent even great there tho.
Had a good run with my Vega 56, overclocked like a champ on water with 64 bios flash too. Not a big step up to a 5700XT(not a big margin at all) but left for dead by my 3080 now. Paid only $300 for that Vega from a miner after the mining crash a couple of years ago, sold it for more than that. Sold the 5700XT to a miner when the 30 series launched for a big profit. Now the 3080 has already covered the gap of its purchase from the profit made from the other cards' sales mining Etherium .Free 3080 Win!
I had to make do with what I can get my hands on. 5950x paired with a RTX 3060. Not a 6800xt/3080 like I wanted but meh... I might as well wait for RX 7000 / RTX 4000 for the high end because at least I can play games at decent framerates.
@@Tallnerdyguy yeah definalty agree 👍 I personally have a good desktop with a rtx 3070 i use at 1440p and a laptop with a 1660ti I use at 1080p and enjoy them both equally to be honest for me it's more about enjoying the games I play than crazy frame rates 😀
These tests are actually very useful to get an idea of what to expect in terms of life-cycle if you buy a graphics card with a low amount of memory: basically it's better to buy a lower power card with more memory (possibly looking into the higher tier models from the previous generation, if needed), if you want to use the card for more than a year (or possibly two). Thanks for your videos!
And you took the best decision then. I still have my old Asus Dual OC (recently upgraded to 6700XT) and I must admit that it's still a great graphics card
@@utubby3730 I can get a Gtx 1060 3gb for around 170 dollars or 6gb for ~400 dollars. I only play apex legends and league of legends so I have no idea if I should just go with the cheap one or go all out on 6gb. My current one is a Gtx 750 Ti so even with the 3gb it’s probably a decent upgrade to get more fps
For a lot of us, the 1060 3GB is one of the bette options to tide us by until the shortage is over as they aren’t affected any where nearly as bad as even the RX 570, and chances are it’ll suffer the least significant drop in value so it can likely be sold off for a relatively small loss. I rarely bother playing games now and when I do it’s usually csgo, so I’ve found no regrets swapping my 3070 out for one of these cards. I can even play pubg at 1440p happily enough on low settings :)
>>pascal had the best value for money gpus, 1060 was $250-300. 1070 was $300-390. >nowadays even without mining gpus cost an arm and a leg, also the naming is marketing and underpowering the 3060 in place of a 3060ti inorder to hike gpu prices. > the 3060ti should be a 3060 and so forth, an xx60 card nowadays cost $400-500 an xx70 cost $500-600. >pc gaming is expensive nowadays due to gpus being overpriced and games are unoptimised even if u buy them. >For now a console is a must for AAA Games and maybe a decent pc for e-sport titles. Otherwise value for money gpus are dead and gone 1440p ultra latest AAA 100+fps are only for people with$$$😅
I am still using the 1060 3gb card for almost 5 years and think it to be the best decision i had made . Still able to play the latest games at Medium to High Settings .The important thing to consider in this debate of 3GB vs 6GB 1060 card is that at what price point it was available in one's country. It would be very obvious that the 6 GB card would better than the 3 GB one but at what cost or price point. In India the 3gb variant was readily available at around Rs 16 - 17000 which is 220-230 USD approx while the 6gb card was at around Rs 23000 which is approx 310 USD. What would you have bought when you knew the the performance difference was around 10 % only while the price difference was around 80 to 100 USD. The only compromise you would have to do is reduce the Texture quality from Ultra to High in most of the AAA games. And i do think that most of the people who did buy the 3 GB variant card was due to the high price diff at that time as compared to the 6 GB card. It didn't make sense to to pay 80 to 100 USD more just for that extra 3GB VRAM and 10 % performance difference .
3GB is holding up surprisingly well. To get away with it though, you have to close everything else that uses the GPU or disable hardware acceleration in Chrome, FF, etc. I have a GTX1050Ti and get out-of-memory errors if I let browsers touch the GPU while gaming. 6GB is pretty much the minimum viable if you want to have more than one non-trivial GPU-accelerated thing open at a time.
Absolutely great for a lot of use cases. I really like that Hardware Unboxed makes sure to not write off a GPU just because it can’t handle Cyberpunk. Also, because of them, I’m waiting for a 12GB or better card from Nvidia that costs less than $500. My rx 5700 has 8GB and even it can even touch the vram ceiling when playing games like RDR2 at 4K.
lets see... my mazda 323 from 1984 that i bought @ 98, costed me around 250€ except the running costs were a lot higher (but i learned a bit of fixing cars yey), but anyway, these new GPU prices are only afloat by the global covid situation. Im looking at 6600 variations to get a new gpu but if they try to sell it for 400+ price im back to waiting game.
My 2001 Honda accord wagon from Japan was $300 lmao. Easily $1k+ but the guy was a friend and trying to get rid of it because he was PCSing(changing base) the following week.
RX 570 8GB owner here Even if isn't the fastest of the cards I can't believe how lucky I am of having one. Still kicking ass on 1080p @60FPS on a wide range of tittles even on very recent ones 😍
@@stolemycoconut5448 Never heard of it, but checked it quickly. There seem to be plenty of people that do like these things, but I for one really never cared about these extra features. Same goes for DLSS and Raytracing. The supported game list is too few and the games that do get support for it are just really subpar AAA games for the most part. About to return my 3080, since I personally think that nvidia cheaped out on VRAM to cash in on future gens/higher VRAM models down the line. Well, that and paying 1300 € (1544 $) for a 3080 is leaving me with regrets :D
These revisits are so good, keep em coming. Back in the day i had the choice between the 1060 6gb and the rx 590, the 590 was a little more expensive but also faster and has 8gb. Good thing i went with the 590.
590 is a fair bit stronger than a 1060 6GB not least because it isn't being strangled by a 192 bit memory buffer. The 3060s and 6700s won't age as well comparatively.
@@lupintheiii3055 Still only cache, it can help out the processor but it can not replace the reduction in bandwidth. Stop listening to marketing schpiel and catchphrases, the 7700 will have a 256bit bus, know why? Because that is why they nerfed the card in the first place so it could be "upgraded" later.
@@darthwiizius RDNA3 will be multy chiplets at least N31 and N32 (RX 7700) so AMD don't need to gimp RX 6000 products to give people a reason to upgrade to RDNA3. Anyway I'm not talking about marketing material, but about performance. Of course 6700XT will age worst compared to 6800, but better than already outdated 3060 (wich only saving grace is 12GB of Vram).
Very interesting comparison Steve! Maybe a RX480 4GB vs 8GB would be interesting as well? Those where the GPUs I was all considering last time I upgraded. Could be interesting to see if going with the 8GB card was right
Thanks for yet another interesting video. I would have loved to see more exploration of how texture quality affects the results directly, instead of low/medium/high type choices.
Nvidia showcased Marbles RTX and released it on Nvidia Omniverse quite recently... except not even a 3080 can run it since they set the minimum amount of VRAM to 11GB (it is possible to edit the config file but even with a 3080, it is unplayable because the framerate is ridiculously low).
VRAM is a bad joke on the 30 series. I had to get a new lower res monitor cause my new 3060Ti ran out of memory all the time at 4k. You simply don't want to lower texture resolution when you have a beautiful 4k display. Fack Shadows and stuff but I never dump tex quality.
@@Rimmer666 Rather than focusing on faster memory, they should have worked on actually increasing it. The fact that the 1070 and 3070 have the same amount of VRAM is quite absurd.
My 1060 6gb card has been the best I've ever owned. Still plays all the games I throw at it very well at 1080p. I don't play too many esports titles aside from the occasional Halo match. Still happy with it's performance after all this time. Glad I have it while all this craziness plays out.
the gtx 1650 with 4 gb always lose when compared to the 1060 3 gb, but would be an interesting comparison, with 1060 3gb, 1650 4gb, gtx 970 3.5gb, rx 470 4gb and rx 460 4gb
I was just working on one of my old builds I gave my sister with a 3 GB GTX 580. 3GB was great when that card came out, but you’re not getting much done with it these days unless you like the idea of not being able to play more and more games as times moves on.
"unless you like the idea of not being able to play more and more games as times moves on." That's how this PC gaming industry works since 30+ years, even before the first 3D cards.
I mean, if you want to make a bigger sacrifice to resolution by dropping down to say 720p, you might still be able to put 3 GB of VRAM on life support.
I have an EVGA 1060 3GB that I put in my wife’s mini itx build. She really only plays league and smite and I got it for $50 during the height of the GPU shortage in May. Honestly perfect for this use case and works great but conceptually doesn’t make a lot of sense with other offerings on the market when it was released. Still like the little thing though
Really interesting video!! I’ve always wondered how changing settings compares to changing resolution for performance. Also, I have a 1060 3gb so vram is always a question for me
Steve, you are bang on right with the 6GB 1060 and it's little brother. I play horizon 4 FH4 moving to FH 5 in November. I play high settings on FH4 ending up about 72 FPS on the average. How I have my computer set up along with how the card is tuned. HWINFO 64 tells me MAX 1945 MHz Low 974 MHz Ave 1003MHz for the clock Mem clock 2100.9 MHz low and High Vid clock873 MHz on low 1746MHz High 943MHz Ave. I have done more aggressive OC and less OC doesn't matter much to me. This is after 31 hours of activity total on the computer. So we have a general look at what my GPU is asked to do, not game centric. Thanks much for this review you did.
Man I remember watching some youtuber comparing the 1060 3gb vs the 1060 6gb saying you'll never hit the 3gb cap if you're playing at 1080p back when I was deciding between them. Def regret my decision now....
I have the 3 GB model 4 years down the road, for 4 years now, and it has been EXCELLENT value. I'm not running the latest 3D shooter titles, had a 1080p most of the time but switched to 1440p last year. Never had issues but don't run demanding games either.
I think when you talk about VRAM capacity at the end affecting the longevity of current cards, we should potentially consider the future impact of Direct Storage and Sampler Feedback on VRAM capacity requirements. In fact I'd say that with the 3070ti, 3080 and 3080ti we may see that the hugely increased bandwidth of GDDR6X becomes far more important than VRAM capacity in terms of those cards' longevity.
The problem is that we can't really give too much weight to something that isn't available yet. We don't know for sure if it will completly fix the lack of vram issue some of this Ampere cards have. I suspect it will help, but to what extent is a complete unknown.
@@Aki_Lesbrinco To some extent, but there are some sources on it - Microsoft put out some videos talking about it, including one with a demonstration showing much lower VRAM usage with these technologies enabled. They also specifically said in one video that VRAM bandwidth was the current hardware limitation on this technology, so it would make sense that the cards with the highest bandwidth would benefit most from this feature. RedGamingTech does a really good video on all this here - th-cam.com/video/4-xom9_7iN4/w-d-xo.html
@@SweatyFeetGirl I've been using that for 4 years I didn't know shit about computers when I bought it. Should've listened to my uncle and bought an RX580.
I use a 1060 3GB and have been for 2+ years now (I found it at less than half retail price sealed), i do game development and 3d modeling/animation as a hobby and it's doing me better than you'd expect, while not amazing performance, im satisfied with both Blender Eevee and Cycles performance, with it's main drawback being animating in anything other than wireframe or solid mode, even using Eevee (moving the camera and still frames work perfectly) and the fact that im usually at 1.9 - 2.8 GBs of VRam out of the 3 just using Blender which sometimes leads to crashes. Overall, still happy with the purchase, got it for like 70$
That's especially true in the AAA market. Just a bunch of not even half baked live services with a roadmap filled with lies which are designed from the ground up to not be fun unless you pay 5 dollars a day to play. What's a shame is that it's so successful for them to do it. Even more indie games are getting crap. Paradox is terrible with their hollow shell demos which they sell as full priced games, and then they release 500 dollars of DLC to fill it out. Then more often than not steam force patches your game into a broken state on the next DLC release. Paradox is terrible.
@@brilliantlysplendid that game is garbage anyways. I wouldn't let any of my gpus touch it ever again after I'd already subjected my poor 2080ti to it upon release lmao
Thank you for testing realistic settings. GPU tests are most often done on maximum settings, but with these cards that wouldn't be playable anyway. going down to high means testing on good visual quality while testing on settings that someone with one of these cards might play at. Also looks like the 3GB model is still "okay" for many games with reduced settings on 1080p (and sometimes even 1440p) and isn't bad for the right price. An okay stopgap until biger cards are available again.
RE6 is weird and not normal. I have a system with two 3090s, both of which are mining when not gaming. I turn the primary GPU off from mining to game on it and the other GPU continues to mine. All games are fine with this with the one exception of RE Village, which would always crash if I did not turn both GPUs off from mining.
@@Safetytrousers Because SLI doesn't allow the VRAM of both of your cards? When you run both cards at the same time, you should only have 48gb of VRAM, not 48b (24+24).
Can never stop myself from giving you guys a like because of the insane amount of work that you put in your videos, even for non-new hardware content like this one. 🙏
@@zebarzebra 3070 is like 5-10% faster and has option for dlss which boosts fps by 75% or so (on quality mode), also 3070 can overclock, 6700xt can't because it is maxed out completely by amd (to counter the low amount of cores on the 6700xt). there's a big gap between 6700xt and 6800 non-xt performancewise. 6700xt has ALOT less cores, which is why clockspeed is maxed out. i would take 3070 any day over 6700xt if price were close and it mostly is. 6700xt should have bene priced at 3060 ti level to be interesting (and in stock).
I managed to get a 3060 from the EVGA queue and upgraded from an RX580 8Gb. The difference is massive. I still really want a 3070 but feel like I hit gold with the 3060. Best of luck in the hunt!
My zotak 1060 6gb mini served me well all way up until 2 weeks ago. I built a new pc with A 3070 but my old rig went to a new home to be 11 year Olds first gaming PC :)
For a five year old mid-price video card the GTX 1060 3GB holds up really well. Especially since mid-price had a different meaning back then… At half the price of the current second-hand price it would be a great stop gap solution.
@@tycondero1647 I probably go for a 3080. As for 3070.... I guess the best option is the TI version as the faster memory makes up for the low memory. It all just sucks but I'm not convinced enough that AMD is a good alternative. P.s. the memory only becomes an issue when you use at least 4K monitor
Did you limit the VRAM to RAM outsourcing? I ran the SOTTR Benchmark on my 1060 3GB with DX12 on the Medium Preset and got an avg. of 62 FPS with 56 FPS at 95%.
@@roykale9141 The governments have the power to stop cryptomining, but they are sitting and doing nothing. Only China and Iran abolished this nuisance.
@@astarothmarduk3720 China actually didn't. They just made it illegal in SOME provinces... notably the ones that are the most government critical. Good on Iran though.
This whole video is like you were in my head and see my thoughts. I was lucky to buy 3060Ti in december for practicaly MSRP price. Yet still, it was the most expensive GPU I've ever bought in my life and by a big margin. I'm going to stick to it for proper few years from the beginning. Last time I've realised 1060's are already 5 years old and I start to think if 4-5 years is possible - it's my goal. So even for 3 GB version it's stil doable in most modern games, and for 6 GB it's actually pretty decent. It's good news for me as I'm concerned for 8 GB MEM especially. But I still won't change it for Radeon right now - I think DLSS & RT is too important. IMO in near future a GPU without DLSS and with poor RTX will be something like Shader Model 2.0 Radeon X800.
Doom Eternal texture setting doesn't affect the actual texture quality. It only affects the texture pool size and how often textures stream in and out of memory. The lowest and highest texture setting look identical. You can easily turn this setting down until it fits your GPU memory and have no effect on image quality.
No, not really. You probably won't notice the difference, but it's there. Not only that, what is even more retarded is an RX 6800 will have no problem while cosring the same. What magic is Nvidia using to justify same price for a slower GPU, with half the Vram and on a cheaper node?
@@lupintheiii3055 If you are just talking out of your ass, then I suggest you actually launch the game and compare instead of making assumptions. There is literally no difference in texture quality between any of the presets. That's not what the setting adjusts. The low and ultra nightmare textures look identical because the setting only adjusts the texture pool size used for streaming.
@@krazyfrog That settings disable LOD so, as I said, there is a difference even tho you won't see it. Fortunately I don't have to worry about any of that since I sold my 3070 and got an RX 6800 plus spare cash.
@@andersjjensen There is no question of not being able to tell the difference. There is no difference. Here, let me know if you can tell the difference between the Low and Ultra settings here. imgur.com/a/zuYrUNE
You can show this video to anyone who claims future proofing a PC build is not possible. Back in 2016 the 3GB model offered better value but if you decided to keep it for longer you got much more out of the 6GB version. Similar story with i5 7600k vs R5 1600 (Waiting for that revisit btw.)
The "Ti" version not only has not more memory than the base version, but it is less energy efficient as well. Sometimes it is better to leave out a product and produce more of the existing models. Lobbying governments to stop cryptomining would help as well, so that not only China and Iran are acting against this crime.
@@andersjjensen ikr. Nvidia has a history of giving gpus barely enough vram. Its sad because 3070 and 3070ti are very powerful cards but they get held back by the lack of vram.
Ultra or High is beyond old GPUs, but the real benefit of extra vram is running Med settings + Ultra texture quality. You get a much better image quality without a big perf hit. Essentially you can play your game on another tier higher quality just because you can max textures.
Might as well wait for the 4000 series at this point. They're probably gonna drop prices (a little bit) just before they release the 4000 series to trick people into wasting money again. Of course it's probably still more than a year away, but I doubt the 3000 series are getting cheaper any time soon.
Got the 3gb version back in 2016. Didn’t do enough research apparently, but at the time it was a huge upgrade over what I had. Just days shy of 2022 I’m still using it. Nvidia image scaling has been an absolute lifesaver allowing me to still play things like Vanguard and Infinite with a good balance of quality and performance. Hoping to hold out about 6 more months.
Well, here in South Africa where I am from, I bought a second-hand MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GB OC which serves me well considering that I overclock it to its programmed maximum. I bought it for R3'500 which translates to USD243,05 (13/07/2021 - SA Date Format), and when I turned 18 in 2016 I bought my first car, a 2005 Volvo S60 2.5T that cost R60'000 translating to USD4'166,63 (13/07/2021 - SA Date Format) and I believe some GPUs cost that much, but here in SA you can find cars for sale around R9'000 translating to USD624.99 and GPUs going as high as R49'000 translating to USD3'402,75 - that being for the extremely high-end units (prices took a plummet in SA thanks to the global decrease in GPU rates so it would now be a walk in the park for the average SA citizen to buy a rather high-end GPU if you are employed in a good position).
@@saputrasaputra3347 I bought a 1060 6GB on release day and it did not even play max settings on any benchmark. "High", sure but I've never been able to set it to 'max' and have decent performance on anything resembling a new game. My 660GT were the same, as was the 7600GT... good cards but you couldn't ever run them on max for their contemporary games. I never had a 460 or 660 to comment on those.
Currently running a 1050 3GB. I mainly play older games, and am perfectly satisfied. I will be sticking with it until GPU prices and availability are back to sane levels.
I upgraded from a 750ti to a 1060 3gb 4 years ago or so. Just bought a 3060ti today. Those two had been king of the mid ranges, but its finally time for something this gen.
im honestly just here to complain about my 3080. that freakin 10gb vram constantly annoys me, its just not enough for my dual4k-vr-headset. (pimax8k) i spend a metric crapton of money on that thing and all i get is stuttering until i lower the resolution below spec. that was my first and last card from team green.
You're annoyed at Nvidia because you didn't know how much VRAM your niche use case (dual 4k VR) needs? It's not like Nvidia hid from you how much memory the 3080 has. In any case, seeing as how the GPU market is a duopoly, you're going to run out of brands to buy at some point when AMD inevitably disappoints you somehow (no company maintains a spotless track record forever) and you swear off their products too. "Last card from team green" lmao
No gpu in the market can power such I high res vr headset. It isn't just the vram, the gpu just isn't powerfull enough to push that many pixels, regardless of vram amount. Hell, it struggles to push max resolution on my Quest 2 in games like Alyx.
@@kyutablet yes, because everybody knows how much vram everything needs. oh, its not everybody, its just you apparently. that nvidia dork said 10gig is enough for modern gaming. ive been with amd for over 15 years, but because i was inpatient i went green this gen. not gona happen again, thats just a fact. if that hurts your little a**hole you can throw tantrums all you like, not gona change a thing.
@@Aki_Lesbrinco depends on the game, the problem with the vram limitiation is that it simply doesnt have the space to run at native resolution, even if just watching a video. it would have plenty of horsepower to run a lot of vr games at high resolutions. thats the funny/frustrating thing, i had a radeonVII before, it ran videos and light games just fine at those resolutions, it just didnt have the horsepower for serious games. if it would just run slower you could work with it a bit, but it introduces stutters, which are absolute poison for vr.
Pitch it off as soon as you can. The 6900XTs are dropping in price rapidly these days. Won't be long before they hit MSRP... I'm eyeballing a PowerColor Red Devil 6900XT Ultimate (the version with a couple hundred higher MHz base and boost) my self. That being said... even the 3090/6900XT won't be butter smooth at 2x4K. Not because of VRAM issues, but because neither of them push more than 60-70FPS at 4K in the most demanding titles if you turn up all the bells and whistles. You'll probably still have to go with some kind of upscaling tech for the time being....
Thanks for this interesting video. I have tried buying a 1060 3GB for awhile but lost every bidding war. Maybe it was good since it doesn't seem to perform well even at 1080p and i eventually found a new 6700XT for only 20% above MSRP.
I had the 3GB version for 4 years. Got it for 180 euro, sold it for 75 to a friend who still uses it. Was quite an excellent card, as at the time I got it, the 6GB version was 300 euro.
Been using GTX 1060 6gb for couple years and i am getting lower fps than in this video. I assume these results are with fresh everything, so over some time performance gets worse and worse?
My experience is if you're buying the budget version, in this case the 3bg card, then you know you're buying something that can get you by right now. You aren't buying anything you expect to last long, you're saving money by spending the least possible on a videocard. So the tradeoff amounts to priorities. Save money now but know you'll need to upgrade sooner OR spend more now and use that card for much longer before you must upgrade. If you regularly upgrade regardless then you have might as well buy the best for the here and now without worrying about how it'll perform 5 years from now since you won't be using it in a couple of years anyway.
Got a brand new Asus Dual model last summer for about 120 euros. Its been great for what i need it for (Destiny 2, World of tanks and some other random games) The VRAM capacity, or the lack of it, is noticeable, as is shown in the video. Thats my only problem with it. Looking to get a cheap 1070 or something in the future. On the other hand, the model i got overclocks well. Without the side panel, the GPU can keep up a consistent 2050 MHz clock, occasionally dropping to 2032 MHz or 2000 MHz on really hot days. Im satisfied, but a bit angry because of what nvidia did with the two featured models.
Definitely a good piece on trying to teach people to understand the capabilities of video cards and don't immediately jump on "OMG I CAN GET ONE!!!!" state of thinking. Hell I have a GTX 970, aka 3.5 GB of vram, I know I'm not going to be playing at high settings on anything except games that aren't terribly graphics heavy in the first place, which luckily for me is kind of my bread and butter. Upside to this too is I don't need to get a super high refresh monitor, because why!?
Woosh! Nice to know that we still have to do with our 3-4 year old video cards. Then again I do have a 1060 6gbyte laying around for if my current 1660ti dies. But yes, what use is rtx if you can't find the cards for a decent price?
i did clean my 4 years old 1060 6g and replaced the old thermal paste with a new one and it hits under full load for 30 min 75° at max. very happy with the resolts #oldGpus_stillGood
My GTX 1650 Super runs circles around this 3GB GTX 1060 and it cost $230 compared to the $169 I put down for my OC card. So glad I shopped for my a card a year ago. :)
Using your numbers shown on this video and the price comparison, most 2021 games runs fine +60 fps on GTX 1060 3gb 1080p and cost 10 times less than any recent video card that can play same games +60fps at 1440p. And thats not to mention that most people running this cards are running old cpus like Phenoms or i5 3rd gen. Thanks for the information.
It's worth noting that that "Texture Pool Size" setting in Doom Eternal has nothing to do with texture resolution, and does not impact image quality at all. It's a setting that strictly relates to asset streaming, and tells the game how much VRAM to allocate to the pool used for pre-caching textures. Unless you're running a setup that is extremely IO-bound (like say a 5400RPM HDD with a fairly bad CPU, or what have you) you won't see any more texture pop-in with it set to "Low" than you would with it set to "Ultra Nightmare". **TLDR:** Doom Eternal straight up does not have a traditional texture quality setting. It uses the same textures no matter what, based on your overall rendering resolution.
As noted, it will be intersting if the same is true of the 8Gb 3060ti and 3070 in a few years. Many games are already pushing over 8Gb for highest quality settings at 1440p and even more so at 4k.
Bought a 1060 3GB off a dude for $50 a while back to pair with my then 2200g. It was a hell of an upgrade for the vega7 graphics and performed better than expected.
My brothers 1060 3GB + I5 8400 struggles mightily to game in newer titles vs my RX580 8GB + 2600X in the same exact room. As long as he has that GPU, my rig will continue to age MUCH better. It's funny because like in Heaven benchmark, his will outperform mine by a couple of FPS, but in real world scenarios it's a stuttering mess.
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The fact they cut the cuda cores and still called it a 1060 is silly. This should have been a decent 1050ti
In fact the 1050Ti with 4Gb is a better option, 3Gb is just not enough.
@@AlexanderGarcia-uv7in That's a good point actually
Oh my god I forgot about that! So scummy
Nvidia doing nvidia things is the best reason why this card was made
Should be a 1040ti
2:12 I know that was a joke, but my 3070 actually did cost me more than my first car, and nearly my second as well.
It's not really a joke, a 3070 does cost more than the average '1st car' of poor people. My 1st car is worth about 500 Euros now so it falls into line.
In some places it's at least 2+ times the price of a decent car
@@HDJess wow what car? that's dirt cheap, I have a decent car that cost me north of 20 grand. Did you have to do any work to it to get it to run? Generally here cheaper cars I think go for 1200-1500USD as far as I am aware
Last year i got a '98 ford fiesta (mk 4) for 400 euros 😆
Its quite old, but it serves me well
Steve a little feedback can you please start using different colours for bar graphs of different GPUs so its clearer to distinguish between them in head to head comparisons or revisits
good point
Main problem of low VRAM isn't really the post processing and all those makeup, but the texture, with 3GB, you are stuck at lower quality texture, even worse than 1050ti, and texture is one of the absolutely cheapest way for you to improve a game's visual without severe performance drop (provided that VRAM and bandwidth is sufficient).
true. That's why modding communities release so easily high quality texture packs.
Agreed, Texture is the last thing I compromise when tweaking a game, if you have to turn off textures it's always bad
@@ivyssauro123 true, in games like red dead 2 the lowest textrure settings make the game look absolutely horrible. the ultra textures arent even great there tho.
Still going strong with my 1060 6GB until the prices of new GPUs are within reason !
Ill sell you my RTX 2070 Super for 1k aud
I only play google chrome so i dont even need it 😂
2022 here we go!!
Enjoy you 11% less performance against an RX 580.
😉
Same :)
Man, those who bought Polaris, Pascal or Vega should feel amazing right now. Greetings from a Tesla card user.
Rocking a HD7970 3GB, still performs great!
Or 390/390X owners
@@hunterfabio Same
Greetings from 1st gen Maxwell
Had a good run with my Vega 56, overclocked like a champ on water with 64 bios flash too. Not a big step up to a 5700XT(not a big margin at all) but left for dead by my 3080 now. Paid only $300 for that Vega from a miner after the mining crash a couple of years ago, sold it for more than that. Sold the 5700XT to a miner when the 30 series launched for a big profit. Now the 3080 has already covered the gap of its purchase from the profit made from the other cards' sales mining Etherium .Free 3080 Win!
Looking at my 750Ti from 2014 serving in a 5900X system:
"It's ok, you're the only thing I can depend on."
Absolute 0% bottleneck system right here unless ram
@@bhadrumaloth2490 If you're not joking, go gather more info on how computers work.
@@bHappyk It seems like pretty obvious sarcasm to me lol.
Mine is 9400gt in r5 1600 system
I had to make do with what I can get my hands on. 5950x paired with a RTX 3060. Not a 6800xt/3080 like I wanted but meh... I might as well wait for RX 7000 / RTX 4000 for the high end because at least I can play games at decent framerates.
A friend mine still has a 1060 6gig he still rates it highly and has no plans to upgrade as yet.
Great content as ever always so informative 👏👍
I'm the same as your friend. Other than that my PC needs a new mobo/cpu/ram combo 1st to take full advantage of it.
At 1080p/60 it isn't terrible, especially if you turn down a few settings from high, at least with newer games
@@mhammadalloush5104 maybe see if you can pick up a cheap b450 and ryzen 2000/3000 series
as some of them seem to be going very cheap now 🤔😉
@@Tallnerdyguy yeah definalty agree 👍 I personally have a good desktop with a rtx 3070 i use at 1440p and a laptop with a 1660ti I use at 1080p and enjoy them both equally to be honest for me it's more about enjoying the games I play than crazy frame rates 😀
@@Tallnerdyguy it isn't terrible? 1080p 60 FPS with high settings sounds amazing to me
I'm rocking a 1060 6gb and ryzen 5 3600 and it's still a good setup for the time being.
You know it!
Me here with my little 3gb card and 7500 i5..... :(
I have same but I'm desperate for a new card and upgrade from 1080p 60hz to 1440p 144hz :(
Can you do a new comparison of RX580 4GB? It would be a nice test between the RX580 4/8GB and 1060 3/6GB.
These tests are actually very useful to get an idea of what to expect in terms of life-cycle if you buy a graphics card with a low amount of memory:
basically it's better to buy a lower power card with more memory (possibly looking into the higher tier models from the previous generation, if needed), if you want to use the card for more than a year (or possibly two).
Thanks for your videos!
I couldn't decide easily between them when I was going to buy them in 2017. Went with 6GB though.
And you took the best decision then. I still have my old Asus Dual OC (recently upgraded to 6700XT) and I must admit that it's still a great graphics card
I dont know how many times I warned people off the 3GB model on steam forums lol
@@utubby3730 I can get a Gtx 1060 3gb for around 170 dollars or 6gb for ~400 dollars. I only play apex legends and league of legends so I have no idea if I should just go with the cheap one or go all out on 6gb. My current one is a Gtx 750 Ti so even with the 3gb it’s probably a decent upgrade to get more fps
Same! Mine still runs at 2100MHz while a classmate bought the 3gb version back then and struggles to runs most games.
@@practicalcucumber1395 what gpu do you have right now? 400 dollars, oh shit. :/
I got a 1060 3gb 2nd hand for $125 4 years ago, still happy with it lol
For a lot of us, the 1060 3GB is one of the bette options to tide us by until the shortage is over as they aren’t affected any where nearly as bad as even the RX 570, and chances are it’ll suffer the least significant drop in value so it can likely be sold off for a relatively small loss.
I rarely bother playing games now and when I do it’s usually csgo, so I’ve found no regrets swapping my 3070 out for one of these cards. I can even play pubg at 1440p happily enough on low settings :)
Pretty much what I expected; increased texture size kills performance. It would be interesting to see a comparison between 1060 3GB vs 1050 Ti 4GB.
1060 3gb is way better than 1050ti
@@bintsukigaming8229 ..unless you try to load over 3GB of textures...
@@game.different still better. you dont make 60 model thats weaker than a 50 model. never gonna happen
As someone still rocking a 1060 6GB, I really enjoy these revisits. Thank you
30 series cards are so jacked up that we had to look back on a 1060
I am so thankful I was able to get two 3090 FTW3 at $1799 each ($1955 with tax) from Microcenter.
it's a Classic Video Card now.
@@PassportBrosBusinessClass iis this an advertisement?
@@KvltKommando sure sounds like it... paying $1950 for a video card, even a 3090, is no bargain... that's a desperate man.
>>pascal had the best value for money gpus, 1060 was $250-300.
1070 was $300-390.
>nowadays even without mining gpus cost
an arm and a leg, also the naming is marketing and underpowering the 3060 in place of a 3060ti inorder to hike gpu prices.
> the 3060ti should be a 3060 and so forth,
an xx60 card nowadays cost $400-500
an xx70 cost $500-600.
>pc gaming is expensive nowadays due to gpus being overpriced and games are unoptimised even if u buy them.
>For now a console is a must for AAA Games and maybe a decent pc for e-sport titles.
Otherwise value for money gpus are dead and gone 1440p ultra latest AAA 100+fps are only for people with$$$😅
I am still using the 1060 3gb card for almost 5 years and think it to be the best decision i had made . Still able to play the latest games at Medium to High Settings .The important thing to consider in this debate of 3GB vs 6GB 1060 card is that at what price point it was available in one's country. It would be very obvious that the 6 GB card would better than the 3 GB one but at what cost or price point. In India the 3gb variant was readily available at around Rs 16 - 17000 which is 220-230 USD approx while the 6gb card was at around Rs 23000 which is approx 310 USD. What would you have bought when you knew the the performance difference was around 10 % only while the price difference was around 80 to 100 USD. The only compromise you would have to do is reduce the Texture quality from Ultra to High in most of the AAA games. And i do think that most of the people who did buy the 3 GB variant card was due to the high price diff at that time as compared to the 6 GB card. It didn't make sense to to pay 80 to 100 USD more just for that extra 3GB VRAM and 10 % performance difference .
Well 6gb very have more Cuda cores it's more like gtx 1660ti vs rtx 2060
3GB is holding up surprisingly well. To get away with it though, you have to close everything else that uses the GPU or disable hardware acceleration in Chrome, FF, etc. I have a GTX1050Ti and get out-of-memory errors if I let browsers touch the GPU while gaming. 6GB is pretty much the minimum viable if you want to have more than one non-trivial GPU-accelerated thing open at a time.
How? I never got these errors with 30 browser tabs open and playing normally on my 1050ti. Even now no problems whatsoever
This is my Card, i only use it for playing PES, and it does the job done. I'm Happy
What is pes
@@arnoldwerschky9413 Pro Evolution Soccer, a football video game series made by Konami.
I WANT TO PLAY THAT on ps2 🤣
"gets" the job done. Glad to see some people find it useful. At least it's not a total ewaste!
Absolutely great for a lot of use cases. I really like that Hardware Unboxed makes sure to not write off a GPU just because it can’t handle Cyberpunk.
Also, because of them, I’m waiting for a 12GB or better card from Nvidia that costs less than $500. My rx 5700 has 8GB and even it can even touch the vram ceiling when playing games like RDR2 at 4K.
" until rtx 3070 cost less than your first car"
I wanna see that, my first car was 400€ 😂
lets see... my mazda 323 from 1984 that i bought @ 98, costed me around 250€ except the running costs were a lot higher (but i learned a bit of fixing cars yey), but anyway, these new GPU prices are only afloat by the global covid situation. Im looking at 6600 variations to get a new gpu but if they try to sell it for 400+ price im back to waiting game.
I've already come to terms with the fact that Golf 2 will be cheaper than new gpus
also golf 2 never gets obsolete xD
My 2001 Honda accord wagon from Japan was $300 lmao. Easily $1k+ but the guy was a friend and trying to get rid of it because he was PCSing(changing base) the following week.
LOL, my first car was rusty '79 Toyota Corolla for the wallet busting price of US$1.
It says "VR ready" on the box, and it's true. I played on an HP-branded 1060-3GB for a while, it worked surprisingly well.
RX 580 or 570, 4 GB vs 8 GB. I'd be interested at watching that
Me too!
alright it's time to add rx 570 to the charts
the real winner
But both 4gb and 8gb :D
Dude I just found an RX560 2gb on the side of the road the other day on the inside of a computer. still a good card untill it poped 😅
RX 570 8GB owner here
Even if isn't the fastest of the cards I can't believe how lucky I am of having one. Still kicking ass on 1080p @60FPS on a wide range of tittles even on very recent ones 😍
RX580 owners definitely got the last laugh. It'll be the same with RX 6000 owners in a few years too.
Not if yuu ask me nvidia freestyle aka nvidia reshade is just awesome
Hey summer diden't expect to see you here lol
@@sjoerdtheemperor5229 :D
Amd hardware is good but the software is pure trash, so I think fsfsr will not be as good as dlss
@@stolemycoconut5448 Never heard of it, but checked it quickly. There seem to be plenty of people that do like these things, but I for one really never cared about these extra features. Same goes for DLSS and Raytracing. The supported game list is too few and the games that do get support for it are just really subpar AAA games for the most part. About to return my 3080, since I personally think that nvidia cheaped out on VRAM to cash in on future gens/higher VRAM models down the line. Well, that and paying 1300 € (1544 $) for a 3080 is leaving me with regrets :D
1060 6GB still holds on so well. Really glad I bought it 3 years ago
These revisits are so good, keep em coming.
Back in the day i had the choice between the 1060 6gb and the rx 590, the 590 was a little more expensive but also faster and has 8gb. Good thing i went with the 590.
Enjoy your RX 590. Great card still.
590 is a fair bit stronger than a 1060 6GB not least because it isn't being strangled by a 192 bit memory buffer. The 3060s and 6700s won't age as well comparatively.
@@darthwiizius Infinity Cache
@@lupintheiii3055
Still only cache, it can help out the processor but it can not replace the reduction in bandwidth. Stop listening to marketing schpiel and catchphrases, the 7700 will have a 256bit bus, know why? Because that is why they nerfed the card in the first place so it could be "upgraded" later.
@@darthwiizius RDNA3 will be multy chiplets at least N31 and N32 (RX 7700) so AMD don't need to gimp RX 6000 products to give people a reason to upgrade to RDNA3.
Anyway I'm not talking about marketing material, but about performance. Of course 6700XT will age worst compared to 6800, but better than already outdated 3060 (wich only saving grace is 12GB of Vram).
Great Video! It would have been really interesting to also include the 4GB and 8GB RX580, but that would be a crazy number of graphs!
Very interesting comparison Steve!
Maybe a RX480 4GB vs 8GB would be interesting as well? Those where the GPUs I was all considering last time I upgraded. Could be interesting to see if going with the 8GB card was right
Thanks for yet another interesting video. I would have loved to see more exploration of how texture quality affects the results directly, instead of low/medium/high type choices.
TDP of 120 watts, that’s impossible to think about right now, all cards are 200W+
The 3 gigs are available for WHAT now?? Damn I gotta catch up
4 years late😅
Lmao
Zotac GTX 1060 6GB, one of the best purchases in my life
I got the 1060 3gb/i7 4770K htpc setup in the living room running a 4k tv. It's pretty good. It is the best GTX experience ever.
Such a legendary cpu
I’m sure he’s outputting at 1080P lol
@Jenya Jenya You can play a lot of esport games, indie games, older games or emulated games from older consoles rendering at 4K with this kind of GPU
Nvidia showcased Marbles RTX and released it on Nvidia Omniverse quite recently... except not even a 3080 can run it since they set the minimum amount of VRAM to 11GB (it is possible to edit the config file but even with a 3080, it is unplayable because the framerate is ridiculously low).
VRAM is a bad joke on the 30 series. I had to get a new lower res monitor cause my new 3060Ti ran out of memory all the time at 4k. You simply don't want to lower texture resolution when you have a beautiful 4k display. Fack Shadows and stuff but I never dump tex quality.
@@Rimmer666 Rather than focusing on faster memory, they should have worked on actually increasing it. The fact that the 1070 and 3070 have the same amount of VRAM is quite absurd.
This is my current card I use paired with my 5600x to play COD, Apex and Overwatch with. Can’t wait to finally upgrade!
That bit at the end showing the discord community 😂
'twas our time to shine
LOL at BatteryBox: "It's rubbish. Not enough shed content."
My 1060 6gb card has been the best I've ever owned. Still plays all the games I throw at it very well at 1080p. I don't play too many esports titles aside from the occasional Halo match. Still happy with it's performance after all this time. Glad I have it while all this craziness plays out.
A 1050ti 4g in comparison to the 1060 and 1060 3g would be very interesting
the gtx 1650 with 4 gb always lose when compared to the 1060 3 gb, but would be an interesting comparison, with 1060 3gb, 1650 4gb, gtx 970 3.5gb, rx 470 4gb and rx 460 4gb
@@DualPerformance it depends on vram
I was just working on one of my old builds I gave my sister with a 3 GB GTX 580. 3GB was great when that card came out, but you’re not getting much done with it these days unless you like the idea of not being able to play more and more games as times moves on.
"unless you like the idea of not being able to play more and more games as times moves on." That's how this PC gaming industry works since 30+ years, even before the first 3D cards.
I mean, if you want to make a bigger sacrifice to resolution by dropping down to say 720p, you might still be able to put 3 GB of VRAM on life support.
@@PainterVierax well if you’re starting off at a disadvantage that a poor buy imo
hey Steve Heickelrrx from discord here, what do you think about GTX 1050 Ti 4GB compared the GTX 1060 3GB after seeing this result in 2021?
Hey mate. Not sure, the GTX 1050 Ti kind of always sucked so probably not great in 2021 ;)
You gotta use 1050ti with a 720p 60hz refresh monitor I think.
That would be an interesting shoot-out. Who wins? RAM capacity vs Cuda count...
I have an EVGA 1060 3GB that I put in my wife’s mini itx build. She really only plays league and smite and I got it for $50 during the height of the GPU shortage in May. Honestly perfect for this use case and works great but conceptually doesn’t make a lot of sense with other offerings on the market when it was released. Still like the little thing though
Really interesting video!! I’ve always wondered how changing settings compares to changing resolution for performance. Also, I have a 1060 3gb so vram is always a question for me
Hood good does it do in games? Pls tell meh
How good*
Steve, you are bang on right with the 6GB 1060 and it's little brother. I play horizon 4 FH4 moving to FH 5 in November. I play high settings on FH4 ending up about 72 FPS on the average. How I have my computer set up along with how the card is tuned. HWINFO 64 tells me MAX 1945 MHz Low 974 MHz Ave 1003MHz for the clock Mem clock 2100.9 MHz low and High Vid clock873 MHz on low 1746MHz High 943MHz Ave. I have done more aggressive OC and less OC doesn't matter much to me. This is after 31 hours of activity total on the computer. So we have a general look at what my GPU is asked to do, not game centric. Thanks much for this review you did.
I Traded My 3Gb 1060 for Rx 580 8gb
Years ago.
I guess that was a good deal
Lmao I did the same 2 years ago but sold my RX 580 in January of this year having no idea prices were that high. SO pissed.
That wasn't a deal that was robbery
Man I remember watching some youtuber comparing the 1060 3gb vs the 1060 6gb saying you'll never hit the 3gb cap if you're playing at 1080p back when I was deciding between them. Def regret my decision now....
299 bucks for a 1060 6gb literally 5 years ago was a deal, probably the most sold card ever, according to steam.
And here I got my 3gb for $180, albeit open box, in late 2017
I have the 3 GB model 4 years down the road, for 4 years now, and it has been EXCELLENT value. I'm not running the latest 3D shooter titles, had a 1080p most of the time but switched to 1440p last year. Never had issues but don't run demanding games either.
very interesed to see the difference when Resizable BAR will be properly utilize ... gpu ram requirements might decrese .
I have resizable bar turned on my RTX 3060... I have no idea how much an improvement it is though since it's been on since day-one of owning my card.
@@wolfshanze5980 but the 3060 is the only Nvidia GPU to have a lot of ram .
Theoretically it should help a little bit, but I don't think it will be huge.
I think when you talk about VRAM capacity at the end affecting the longevity of current cards, we should potentially consider the future impact of Direct Storage and Sampler Feedback on VRAM capacity requirements. In fact I'd say that with the 3070ti, 3080 and 3080ti we may see that the hugely increased bandwidth of GDDR6X becomes far more important than VRAM capacity in terms of those cards' longevity.
this video is only a HUGE AMD pr like always in this channel.
The problem is that we can't really give too much weight to something that isn't available yet. We don't know for sure if it will completly fix the lack of vram issue some of this Ampere cards have. I suspect it will help, but to what extent is a complete unknown.
@@Aki_Lesbrinco To some extent, but there are some sources on it - Microsoft put out some videos talking about it, including one with a demonstration showing much lower VRAM usage with these technologies enabled. They also specifically said in one video that VRAM bandwidth was the current hardware limitation on this technology, so it would make sense that the cards with the highest bandwidth would benefit most from this feature. RedGamingTech does a really good video on all this here - th-cam.com/video/4-xom9_7iN4/w-d-xo.html
I had the 3GB one back in 2017 i still love it ever after upgrading
i had the 3gb 1060 in 2018 and i switched it out after only a few months just because the vram already was trash then
@@SweatyFeetGirl I've been using that for 4 years I didn't know shit about computers when I bought it. Should've listened to my uncle and bought an RX580.
@@generalyido yeah VRAM is becoming more and more vrey demanding we are going to need 16GB VRAM in the soon future or at least 12 GB
I use a 1060 3GB and have been for 2+ years now (I found it at less than half retail price sealed), i do game development and 3d modeling/animation as a hobby and it's doing me better than you'd expect, while not amazing performance, im satisfied with both Blender Eevee and Cycles performance, with it's main drawback being animating in anything other than wireframe or solid mode, even using Eevee (moving the camera and still frames work perfectly) and the fact that im usually at 1.9 - 2.8 GBs of VRam out of the 3 just using Blender which sometimes leads to crashes.
Overall, still happy with the purchase, got it for like 70$
I'm not pressed to upgrade my 2GB RX 560 cuz the games that are coming out these days are pretty crap
Yeah, who cares if it can’t run Cyberpunk? Lol
@@brilliantlysplendid Cyberpunk can't even run Cyberpunk lmao
That's especially true in the AAA market. Just a bunch of not even half baked live services with a roadmap filled with lies which are designed from the ground up to not be fun unless you pay 5 dollars a day to play. What's a shame is that it's so successful for them to do it.
Even more indie games are getting crap. Paradox is terrible with their hollow shell demos which they sell as full priced games, and then they release 500 dollars of DLC to fill it out. Then more often than not steam force patches your game into a broken state on the next DLC release. Paradox is terrible.
@@odizzido Oof now you reminded me that assassin's creed is now going live service.
@@brilliantlysplendid that game is garbage anyways. I wouldn't let any of my gpus touch it ever again after I'd already subjected my poor 2080ti to it upon release lmao
Thank you for testing realistic settings.
GPU tests are most often done on maximum settings, but with these cards that wouldn't be playable anyway. going down to high means testing on good visual quality while testing on settings that someone with one of these cards might play at.
Also looks like the 3GB model is still "okay" for many games with reduced settings on 1080p (and sometimes even 1440p) and isn't bad for the right price. An okay stopgap until biger cards are available again.
Trying to run RE6 village on a 1060 3gb even on the lowest settings 1080p with the day one patch it kept crashing, was totally unplayable.
RE6 is weird and not normal. I have a system with two 3090s, both of which are mining when not gaming. I turn the primary GPU off from mining to game on it and the other GPU continues to mine. All games are fine with this with the one exception of RE Village, which would always crash if I did not turn both GPUs off from mining.
@@Safetytrousers Because SLI doesn't allow the VRAM of both of your cards?
When you run both cards at the same time, you should only have 48gb of VRAM, not 48b (24+24).
@@wertyuiopasd6281 A 3090 has 24GB of Vram. The cards are not connected.
@@Safetytrousers oh so that changed for the better huh? I messed with the 3080 numbers.
Didn't know that. Thanks for the nugget of knowledge.
Can never stop myself from giving you guys a like because of the insane amount of work that you put in your videos, even for non-new hardware content like this one. 🙏
man i just want a 3070. my rx 580 is starting to struggle
@@brownie43212 But performs worse than 3070 by a good margin.
@@chrisjr6214 you call 5% "a good margin"?? whatt??
@@zebarzebra Not at 1080p, but at 1440p and especially 4K. 3070 has much faster memory bandwidth. In fact most of the 30 Series cards do.
@@zebarzebra 3070 is like 5-10% faster and has option for dlss which boosts fps by 75% or so (on quality mode), also 3070 can overclock, 6700xt can't because it is maxed out completely by amd (to counter the low amount of cores on the 6700xt). there's a big gap between 6700xt and 6800 non-xt performancewise. 6700xt has ALOT less cores, which is why clockspeed is maxed out. i would take 3070 any day over 6700xt if price were close and it mostly is. 6700xt should have bene priced at 3060 ti level to be interesting (and in stock).
I managed to get a 3060 from the EVGA queue and upgraded from an RX580 8Gb. The difference is massive. I still really want a 3070 but feel like I hit gold with the 3060. Best of luck in the hunt!
My zotak 1060 6gb mini served me well all way up until 2 weeks ago. I built a new pc with A 3070 but my old rig went to a new home to be 11 year Olds first gaming PC :)
can i have your 1060 haha
For a five year old mid-price video card the GTX 1060 3GB holds up really well. Especially since mid-price had a different meaning back then…
At half the price of the current second-hand price it would be a great stop gap solution.
I hope my R9 270 can hold out a little longer! The fans are having issues.
Sold a pair 3GB 1060's last year for $170AUD after upgrading to a pair of GTX 1080's (2 gaming rigs). These were around $400AUD at the time....
lol, just sell them as soon as you get your hands on a 20/30 series. Prices are still ridiculous
Went for a 1070 8GB back in the days, still no regrets there as I'm waiting for prices to drop
Me too, but how do you feel about the 3070, also sporting "only" 8 GB?
@@tycondero1647 I probably go for a 3080. As for 3070.... I guess the best option is the TI version as the faster memory makes up for the low memory. It all just sucks but I'm not convinced enough that AMD is a good alternative.
P.s. the memory only becomes an issue when you use at least 4K monitor
@@yspegel Well, I am also skeptical regarding AMD. Mostly because I also have a good Gsync monitor and would hate to lose the adaptive sync.
remembering when you buy GPU at the right price.
Did you limit the VRAM to RAM outsourcing? I ran the SOTTR Benchmark on my 1060 3GB with DX12 on the Medium Preset and got an avg. of 62 FPS with 56 FPS at 95%.
We don't run the built in benchmark as it's not very demanding, we actually play the game.
@@Hardwareunboxed Okay 😅 thanks for the response mate
How well does 3GB VRAM work in 2021?
*BAD*
I use it with a 4k monitor
It's horrible
GPU gods pls make new GPU cheap
@@roykale9141 The governments have the power to stop cryptomining, but they are sitting and doing nothing. Only China and Iran abolished this nuisance.
@@astarothmarduk3720 China actually didn't. They just made it illegal in SOME provinces... notably the ones that are the most government critical. Good on Iran though.
This whole video is like you were in my head and see my thoughts. I was lucky to buy 3060Ti in december for practicaly MSRP price. Yet still, it was the most expensive GPU I've ever bought in my life and by a big margin. I'm going to stick to it for proper few years from the beginning. Last time I've realised 1060's are already 5 years old and I start to think if 4-5 years is possible - it's my goal. So even for 3 GB version it's stil doable in most modern games, and for 6 GB it's actually pretty decent. It's good news for me as I'm concerned for 8 GB MEM especially. But I still won't change it for Radeon right now - I think DLSS & RT is too important. IMO in near future a GPU without DLSS and with poor RTX will be something like Shader Model 2.0 Radeon X800.
Doom Eternal texture setting doesn't affect the actual texture quality. It only affects the texture pool size and how often textures stream in and out of memory. The lowest and highest texture setting look identical. You can easily turn this setting down until it fits your GPU memory and have no effect on image quality.
No, not really. You probably won't notice the difference, but it's there. Not only that, what is even more retarded is an RX 6800 will have no problem while cosring the same. What magic is Nvidia using to justify same price for a slower GPU, with half the Vram and on a cheaper node?
@@lupintheiii3055 If you are just talking out of your ass, then I suggest you actually launch the game and compare instead of making assumptions. There is literally no difference in texture quality between any of the presets. That's not what the setting adjusts. The low and ultra nightmare textures look identical because the setting only adjusts the texture pool size used for streaming.
@@krazyfrog That settings disable LOD so, as I said, there is a difference even tho you won't see it.
Fortunately I don't have to worry about any of that since I sold my 3070 and got an RX 6800 plus spare cash.
If you can't tell the difference you're probably playing at 1080p. I assure you you can tell the difference at 4k...
@@andersjjensen There is no question of not being able to tell the difference. There is no difference. Here, let me know if you can tell the difference between the Low and Ultra settings here. imgur.com/a/zuYrUNE
You can show this video to anyone who claims future proofing a PC build is not possible. Back in 2016 the 3GB model offered better value but if you decided to keep it for longer you got much more out of the 6GB version. Similar story with i5 7600k vs R5 1600 (Waiting for that revisit btw.)
When the 1060 had 6GB but the new 3070 and the "Tie" version only has 8 GB of VRAM
The "Ti" version not only has not more memory than the base version, but it is less energy efficient as well. Sometimes it is better to leave out a product and produce more of the existing models. Lobbying governments to stop cryptomining would help as well, so that not only China and Iran are acting against this crime.
xx70 cards have had only 8gb vram for like 3 generations now. 1070 1070ti 2070 2070 super 3070 and 3070ti all have 8gb vram.
@@mememaster8368 That alone ought to be a clue for anyone...
@@andersjjensen ikr. Nvidia has a history of giving gpus barely enough vram. Its sad because 3070 and 3070ti are very powerful cards but they get held back by the lack of vram.
Ultra or High is beyond old GPUs, but the real benefit of extra vram is running Med settings + Ultra texture quality. You get a much better image quality without a big perf hit. Essentially you can play your game on another tier higher quality just because you can max textures.
No way you should be buying one now.
You need to hold out for a 3000 series.
Might as well wait for the 4000 series at this point. They're probably gonna drop prices (a little bit) just before they release the 4000 series to trick people into wasting money again. Of course it's probably still more than a year away, but I doubt the 3000 series are getting cheaper any time soon.
@@atnfn I agree with that, but I doubt the 4000 will be out anything less than 3 years from now.
@@PassportBrosBusinessClass next year..September 2022 is my bet.
Got the 3gb version back in 2016. Didn’t do enough research apparently, but at the time it was a huge upgrade over what I had. Just days shy of 2022 I’m still using it. Nvidia image scaling has been an absolute lifesaver allowing me to still play things like Vanguard and Infinite with a good balance of quality and performance. Hoping to hold out about 6 more months.
So you changed it ?
"That's not anti-consumer enough" we need a shirt for that
Well, here in South Africa where I am from, I bought a second-hand MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GB OC which serves me well considering that I overclock it to its programmed maximum. I bought it for R3'500 which translates to USD243,05 (13/07/2021 - SA Date Format), and when I turned 18 in 2016 I bought my first car, a 2005 Volvo S60 2.5T that cost R60'000 translating to USD4'166,63 (13/07/2021 - SA Date Format) and I believe some GPUs cost that much, but here in SA you can find cars for sale around R9'000 translating to USD624.99 and GPUs going as high as R49'000 translating to USD3'402,75 - that being for the extremely high-end units (prices took a plummet in SA thanks to the global decrease in GPU rates so it would now be a walk in the park for the average SA citizen to buy a rather high-end GPU if you are employed in a good position).
miss the day when a brand new $200 GPU was able to play almost any game @ max setting
@@drunkhusband6257 gtx 1060, gtx 660, gtx 460 , GT 6600 were considered as the best bang for the buck gpus back then
GTX 900 series, I miss the top end card being way cheaper than just about any card around now.
@@saputrasaputra3347 I bought a 1060 6GB on release day and it did not even play max settings on any benchmark.
"High", sure but I've never been able to set it to 'max' and have decent performance on anything resembling a new game.
My 660GT were the same, as was the 7600GT... good cards but you couldn't ever run them on max for their contemporary games.
I never had a 460 or 660 to comment on those.
Currently running a 1050 3GB. I mainly play older games, and am perfectly satisfied. I will be sticking with it until GPU prices and availability are back to sane levels.
Texture is the most important thing in Game's visual quality
Would you do a GTX970 revisit? that card was (in)famous for its 3.5GB+512MB scam but I wonder how well it holds up today.
Imagine buying a 2nd hand 5 year old car and the customer being charged brand new pricing, these tech companies really have us by the balls
I upgraded from a 750ti to a 1060 3gb 4 years ago or so. Just bought a 3060ti today. Those two had been king of the mid ranges, but its finally time for something this gen.
im honestly just here to complain about my 3080. that freakin 10gb vram constantly annoys me, its just not enough for my dual4k-vr-headset. (pimax8k)
i spend a metric crapton of money on that thing and all i get is stuttering until i lower the resolution below spec.
that was my first and last card from team green.
You're annoyed at Nvidia because you didn't know how much VRAM your niche use case (dual 4k VR) needs? It's not like Nvidia hid from you how much memory the 3080 has.
In any case, seeing as how the GPU market is a duopoly, you're going to run out of brands to buy at some point when AMD inevitably disappoints you somehow (no company maintains a spotless track record forever) and you swear off their products too. "Last card from team green" lmao
No gpu in the market can power such I high res vr headset. It isn't just the vram, the gpu just isn't powerfull enough to push that many pixels, regardless of vram amount. Hell, it struggles to push max resolution on my Quest 2 in games like Alyx.
@@kyutablet yes, because everybody knows how much vram everything needs. oh, its not everybody, its just you apparently. that nvidia dork said 10gig is enough for modern gaming.
ive been with amd for over 15 years, but because i was inpatient i went green this gen. not gona happen again, thats just a fact. if that hurts your little a**hole you can throw tantrums all you like, not gona change a thing.
@@Aki_Lesbrinco depends on the game, the problem with the vram limitiation is that it simply doesnt have the space to run at native resolution, even if just watching a video. it would have plenty of horsepower to run a lot of vr games at high resolutions.
thats the funny/frustrating thing, i had a radeonVII before, it ran videos and light games just fine at those resolutions, it just didnt have the horsepower for serious games.
if it would just run slower you could work with it a bit, but it introduces stutters, which are absolute poison for vr.
Pitch it off as soon as you can. The 6900XTs are dropping in price rapidly these days. Won't be long before they hit MSRP... I'm eyeballing a PowerColor Red Devil 6900XT Ultimate (the version with a couple hundred higher MHz base and boost) my self. That being said... even the 3090/6900XT won't be butter smooth at 2x4K. Not because of VRAM issues, but because neither of them push more than 60-70FPS at 4K in the most demanding titles if you turn up all the bells and whistles. You'll probably still have to go with some kind of upscaling tech for the time being....
Thanks for this interesting video. I have tried buying a 1060 3GB for awhile but lost every bidding war. Maybe it was good since it doesn't seem to perform well even at 1080p and i eventually found a new 6700XT for only 20% above MSRP.
oh that's not bad at all for the 6700XT
I had the 3GB version for 4 years. Got it for 180 euro, sold it for 75 to a friend who still uses it. Was quite an excellent card, as at the time I got it, the 6GB version was 300 euro.
Been using GTX 1060 6gb for couple years and i am getting lower fps than in this video. I assume these results are with fresh everything, so over some time performance gets worse and worse?
Really want to know how you guys are consistently getting 100fps in siege on high with the 3gb model while I'm getting 55???
My experience is if you're buying the budget version, in this case the 3bg card, then you know you're buying something that can get you by right now. You aren't buying anything you expect to last long, you're saving money by spending the least possible on a videocard. So the tradeoff amounts to priorities. Save money now but know you'll need to upgrade sooner OR spend more now and use that card for much longer before you must upgrade. If you regularly upgrade regardless then you have might as well buy the best for the here and now without worrying about how it'll perform 5 years from now since you won't be using it in a couple of years anyway.
Got a brand new Asus Dual model last summer for about 120 euros.
Its been great for what i need it for (Destiny 2, World of tanks and some other random games)
The VRAM capacity, or the lack of it, is noticeable, as is shown in the video. Thats my only problem with it. Looking to get a cheap 1070 or something in the future.
On the other hand, the model i got overclocks well. Without the side panel, the GPU can keep up a consistent 2050 MHz clock, occasionally dropping to 2032 MHz or 2000 MHz on really hot days. Im satisfied, but a bit angry because of what nvidia did with the two featured models.
Definitely a good piece on trying to teach people to understand the capabilities of video cards and don't immediately jump on "OMG I CAN GET ONE!!!!" state of thinking. Hell I have a GTX 970, aka 3.5 GB of vram, I know I'm not going to be playing at high settings on anything except games that aren't terribly graphics heavy in the first place, which luckily for me is kind of my bread and butter. Upside to this too is I don't need to get a super high refresh monitor, because why!?
You guys think 6800 XT price will drop below 1000 euro by the end of July?
Woosh! Nice to know that we still have to do with our 3-4 year old video cards.
Then again I do have a 1060 6gbyte laying around for if my current 1660ti dies.
But yes, what use is rtx if you can't find the cards for a decent price?
Lucky you.
I have 2x 580 and a 590.
i did clean my 4 years old 1060 6g and replaced the old thermal paste with a new one and it hits under full load for 30 min 75° at max. very happy with the resolts #oldGpus_stillGood
@Hardware Unboxed Can you perhaps look at older Quadro cards too ? Like the P2000, P2200 which is also based on the same silicon.
Watching this with a 1060 3gb I built back in 2017. Holding out for the 3000 series too. All the best out there fellas.
My GTX 1650 Super runs circles around this 3GB GTX 1060 and it cost $230 compared to the $169 I put down for my OC card. So glad I shopped for my a card a year ago. :)
Using your numbers shown on this video and the price comparison, most 2021 games runs fine +60 fps on GTX 1060 3gb 1080p and cost 10 times less than any recent video card that can play same games +60fps at 1440p. And thats not to mention that most people running this cards are running old cpus like Phenoms or i5 3rd gen. Thanks for the information.
It's worth noting that that "Texture Pool Size" setting in Doom Eternal has nothing to do with texture resolution, and does not impact image quality at all. It's a setting that strictly relates to asset streaming, and tells the game how much VRAM to allocate to the pool used for pre-caching textures. Unless you're running a setup that is extremely IO-bound (like say a 5400RPM HDD with a fairly bad CPU, or what have you) you won't see any more texture pop-in with it set to "Low" than you would with it set to "Ultra Nightmare". **TLDR:** Doom Eternal straight up does not have a traditional texture quality setting. It uses the same textures no matter what, based on your overall rendering resolution.
Needless to say, you CAN play with 3 or 4 GB Vram in lowest settings, but expect random crashes on latest AAA games also
As noted, it will be intersting if the same is true of the 8Gb 3060ti and 3070 in a few years. Many games are already pushing over 8Gb for highest quality settings at 1440p and even more so at 4k.
Bought a 1060 3GB off a dude for $50 a while back to pair with my then 2200g. It was a hell of an upgrade for the vega7 graphics and performed better than expected.
My brothers 1060 3GB + I5 8400 struggles mightily to game in newer titles vs my RX580 8GB + 2600X in the same exact room. As long as he has that GPU, my rig will continue to age MUCH better. It's funny because like in Heaven benchmark, his will outperform mine by a couple of FPS, but in real world scenarios it's a stuttering mess.