Porsche 718 Spyder REVIEW - EP 126
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Janko, this is your best video to date, your passion and depth of experience shine through here, a very engaging piece.
Thanks Roger, geting the comment from you is something extra since you are a brilliant TH-camr yourself. Take care and looking forward to your next video.
Regarding supply and demand- I can only speak for the US and Canada: in the US you can find Spyders and GT4 sitting unsold on new dealer lots, selling for MSRP. In Canada, where the Spyder starts at 69,000Eu (hooray!), I’m told you can order one and get one in 2021 without a problem. This is coming from a friend who owns the dealership. Covid has reduced demand, no question.
Hi Fluterra, I don't know the US and Canada market, what I do know is that Porsche is still selling at very hi numbers. In some markets the effect of the COVID-19 is higher due to the fact that the dealership was forced to close. Therefore, already purchased cars is increasing the stock at the delars.
Thank you for the very accurate, technical and personal detailed evaluation of the 718 Spyder. Bravo.
Thanks Antonio, I try my best.
Great review!!! Love your Porsche color and HREs.
Thanks, Gordy, it turned out quit good 😌. If you are not already please consider subscribing.
Just love your enthusiasm. And the car. The matte PPF just makes the look of the car even more awesome.
I agree, it turned out better than expected. Thanks for watching and subscribing to my channel.
Hi Janko - great production . Agree on the PTV - served me well on recent track day at Goodwood in Boxter T with Porsche club GB - outgunned by the GT3s and 718 GT4 of course , and I did miss the sound of my 991 GT3 at 9000 rpm but the T was great and drove all day with the roof down - letting the fast nature in ....
Never underestimate the "T" models. Thanks for watching and subscribing to my channel.
Love it! Great review as usual. My dad test drove one and absolutely loved it...
Thanks, its a beauty to drive.
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Thanks David, appreciate your energy. Perhaps you have honoured me with your subscription.
Janko Lind appreciate your energy and above all your expertise
Awesome Janko . I have just had a confirmation of a Spyder delivery for November. Hope you confirm I’m doing the right thing selling my 991.2 Targa GTS!
Targa, you move from comfort to GT I hope you are aware of that?
I have been following you for a while, and find your content and production second to none. What I do not understand, is why you are not gaining subscribers!
You are truly a gifted man in your passion and delivery style. I hope that you continue to produce and follow your dreams. I appreciate it!
Thanks Larry, this is actually a common question. It is difficult to be found in the jungle of social media. May I ask, how did you find me?
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I am a Porsche guy!
Owned a number of them over the years and look for content on TH-cam. Came across your site, and have been following.
Currently have a 2018 911T which I enjoy.
I would remove the top lovingly
I don't care how hard it is to get in and out of
Manual Manual Manual need I say more
That is the car for me !!!
YES Manual :-)
Aside from my daily drivers, I will always drive manually shifted cars, full stop!
Wonderful! I’ve just locked in my Gentian Blue Spyder with LWBS 😍 hopefully a Christmas gift to myself 🙂
Congratulation to your Spyder. You will become a lucky man when Santa arrives.
Wonderful video! Totally agree w you on the PTV! I’m amazed at how the Porsche salesman downplay the importance of it and the dealers equip very few of their vehicles w it.
There is a problem with education when it comes to the dealers. If it is not visible, they don't know what it is. Thanks for watching and subscribing.
A Porsche car dealer will rarely know as much as an enthusiast. They just box tick the usual usual, make it seem like they have split the atom by recommending the smokers pack (for the little lid) and then take your money. Anyone going into a purchase knowing less than the dealer is in for trouble.
I've got a 23' Spyder on order. Should have it in 4 months... Super super excited! Nice review!
Congratulations to your Spyder GethinJames
Thank you Janko I have an allocation on a Spyder and really looking forward to getting the car. Hope you won’t put me off!!!
Congratulation to your Spyder, you are going to enjoy this video :-)
Completely agree! On a sports car all performance options, like PTV, are a must! AND yes that b-column on the Taycan...
The "B" is always in the why, BUT that's what's makes the car beautiful. Don't move it Porsche...
I fully agree : Porsche should keep the "one button - one function" philosophy. I dislike the digitalization of functions : your focus should be on the road, not on a screen ! Certainly with this kind of cars.. Congratulations with this car Janko. I will keep on enjoying my 718 Boxster in the meanwhile :-)
Congratulations to your Boxster, it is a great Porsche experience.
Thanks for a long awaited review:)
Will you post more videos where you evaluated stock suspension vs. Öhlins, stock wheels vs. HRE, standard front lip. vs. GT4, this would be very interesting to hear.
Yes, on my editing desk. Perhaps you have honoured me with your subscription?
Good, thank you👍
Already a subsriper since ep. 14😊
This is where the 35 year old“ Teacher “ also stood, the bloodline continues. Beautiful cars for sure.
Great choice on the Spyder and great review. I get comments on my black & GT Silver 718 Boxster S w PVT, Sport Chrono, PASM,6sp manual. PVT is awesome in tight corners w Pzeros. I run a 30mph S at 55 on my commute via B road. PVT can be felt pivoting the car. I am looking at HRE wheels. Sport Tech seats vacuum up easy.
Congratulations to your car, sound beautiful.
mr janko. is there a reason you did not specify Clear Taillights? i have them on my order for my boxster T. my freeze date is july 28th.
I love your videos ...thank you so very much 👍🏾
Thanks Villaman for watching.
Perfect road car I think. Great review Janko.
I belive it is perfect on road and on a race track.
Top vidéo and youtuber you deserve so Much more attention, You are a heros.
Thanks for your energy, Brunner. Perhaps you have honoured me with your subscription
Cars with Luke dyno’ed his GT4 and got below 400 hp. His has ~6500km and an upgraded exhaust that increases hp over stock!
Yes I saw this video, going to talk to a dyna on Monday. really looking forward to get more info.
... and lost all his warrantys.
@@NoName-qp1op I know only a few youtubers who don't lose their warranty with their cars......
Hans-Joachim Scheidt true fact
wow never seen anyone this happy driving a car. :D
I'm happy driving it :-) Perhaps you have honoured me with your subscription?
@@JankoLind I already subbed since many years ago. since you were in the everyday driver? BTW does the 991.2 GT3 comes with particulate filter?
OMG what a car love it, thanks for the review. I want have one.
My exact spec Janko. Getting the car in 2 weeks. Can't wait!
Congratulation Tom to your allocation, you will not be disappointed.
@@JankoLind Took delivery of the 718 Spyder last week. Car is really special. When I compare it to my previous 2016 model I can say that it has more "grunt" if you will, and is definitely faster. The exhaust note is not quite as visceral as my previous car. It's a bit dampened. So I always have the exhaust button pressed which opens it up, particularly after 4,000 RPMs. Love the car and enjoy your videos. Thanks for replying and keep up the good work!
Finally :-) I will actually test drive one today! So I'm very much looking forward to watching your review tonight and comparing it with my experience.
Remember, it takes som hours before the GT4 and Spyders starts to grow on you. Try to practice first gear. Thanks for watching the premiere at 20:00 CET+2
Janko, did you see the Spyder with destroyed rear suspension? Seems Porsche has done it again with the GT4 chassis.
@@Nord_Mann No missed that one... LINK?
Janko Lind Spyder/GT4 forum and on Rennlist.
If we are talking about the same Rennlist article... the car being totaled due to a ‘bent frame’ wouldn’t lead me to blaming Porsche for a rear suspension issue...but more like a driver issue.
don't get it why everyone is hating on the sound, I drove it yesterday with an exhaust-flap delete and it sounded gorgeous
It dose, we (petrol-heads) are just nervous loosing our combustion engine and as a result we need the volume at max.
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This is top level review
Thanks Jack
Hi Janko nice review as usual, I am thinking to add 718 gt4 in white to my garage
Sounds like a wonderful plan, white is always white...
Hi Janko. Great video! Always wondered, with the significantly lowered suspension compared to even the S models, do you have any issue around the city, clearing speed humps or getting up ramps? I read that the suspension is adjustable for height, but can't imagine many stomaching raising their car either. Would love your thoughts on city driving with this car. Thanks!
Philip Tam ...interesting question!
Hi Philip and jogu123, spoiler alert, I've fitted the GT4 front wing. Look closer on my instagram account and you will see. I did NOT hit any speed bumps before fitting the GT4 front wing, but still they need to be quite large to scratch underneath. IF you drive slow over speed bumps, I believe you will manage. But if you are going to daily, select another car...
@@JankoLind Thanks for the reply! Not planning on using it as a daily, but I do live in the city with some odd bumps and horribly designed ramps around town.
Thank you for your videos that I enjoy a lot. Same thing for me, an allocation that I was painstakingly able to grab, Spyder to be delivered in January, hopefully with a PDK gearbox. My Miami blue Cayman is for sale!!
Perhaps you will settle with a manual? Congratulations your allocation.
This video is like a remastered version of all the highlights of the previous post, I like it , but I'm even more eager for the new Spyder content, being the exhaust by far the hottest topic , but also I'm wondering if you changed your mind about the side scoops ... Did you know that now is an straight forward installation (very easy) ? .. any plotting plan to put over (maybe a number spot like the little 550)? ..by the way how did you glued that guy over the dash? (Just curious to know)... Are you done with the break-in? any oil change to close that milestone? ... So we all get it about being environmental friendly, but, do you know that Cargraphics have a high flow version of the OPF to keep things green ?.. oh so many questions Janko ..
Hi Oscar, oil change might be the case at the end of the season. Scoops, not in my plan for now, and did not know the fitting has changed in complexity. Link?. No number will be fitted for now. Not sure it will suit my existing setup. I used double-sided adhesive tape, I taped over each other to build hight. Thanks for spending time on my channel Oscar.
absolutely beautiful car.
I agree, and thanks, Minho Lee. If you are not already, please subscribe to my channel.
I can't believe a vehicle like this exists.
Can't believe it either. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
I am looking at buying either a manual 991.2 GT3 or the 718 Spyder, which one would you choose if you planned on keeping it forever?
Ohhhhhhhhhh depends on wish week you ask... need to drive the Spyder more to make up my mind.
Beautiful car! The seats are a work of art, but my back hurts though just looking at them. Much prefer the old school buttons than the screens.
Thanks, if your back hurts please try the base Carreras much more comfortable car. Thanks 🙏 for watching and subscribing to my channel
Janko Lind Thanks, those fully adjustable seats with lumbar, just the ticket.
What’s a better option? 718 Cayman GT vs 911 Carrera 4s 2020? Please respond. Thank you.
The cars are totally different. It depends on how you plan to use the car. Daily and perhaps in the winter 4s. Track days and B-roads Cayman GT4 all day in the week. But there are also emotions to take under considerations. 911 or Cayman they look totally different.
Great video Big Guy
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Janko Lind I’m already
Great review! I agree on your statement this and the Taycan are the best looking cars out of Stuttgart right now. As my boys aged 12&14 have grown out of the Carrera T, I had to get a new car for this summers holiday lengthy road trip as the T became too cramped over long distances. Guess what I went for😉
LOL I remember, belive you have already told me in privies comment, Taycan 4s
Why not a Spyder with a trailer
Max Martz considered it😂 But not with a trailer as we don’t have a car to tow such a big rig, but a Boxster GTS4.0 for the wife and one of the boys and the other one with me in the T. Actually we previously have previously done weekend trips with the wife in the T and myself in the 964Turbo I sold this March, amidst the coronavirus pandemic. It’s a perfect way to travel, with a Porsche companion. On this summers holiday we drove both Porsches half the distance together(720km), leaving the T to be serviced at the PC in Trondheim, the Taycan hauling all the luggage needed for a months summer holiday. Going further south, we all fit nicely in the Taycan 4S+, which actually is superb on Norway’s twisty roads. Range hovered between 460-500kms in Range Mode making us able to just pass 90% of the charging stations. On the dramatic roads on the west coast fjord landscape and steep mountains, switching the Taycan to Sport Plus made me wonder what on earth I need the Carrera T for, that’s how good the Taycan really is. Probably the best car on sale today🥇⚡️
The most powerful statement is that you kept up with a 991 GT3, I don't know how but they need you in Formula 1 :)
You will be impressed by how fast the Spyder is. Mark my words, not faster but extremely close to 991.2 GT3 speed.
Hi Janko: Would you daily this Sypder or GT4? I have a 991.2 GTS which is my only car at least for myself that I drive every single day twice a day. I absolutely love this car, but I know the 718's are more fun. So, the question is if the Sypder / GT4 is bearable day to day. Thanks and keep up the good work!
I would never daily the GT4 Spyder. Keep the GTS. Thanks for watching and subscribing to my channel.
@@JankoLind I actually traded it in for a new GT4. LOL! 6.5% off MSRP and trade in value was basically what I paid for used. It's not bad at all daily driving this awesome car in the last week or so, even with the LWB. The suspension is surprisingly so compliant but razor sharp when you want it to.
@@KoryoJK the honeymoon time is always the best...
Hi
I dont know how to reach to ask you this so Im just gonna leave the question here.
Where did you get the RSR livery for your previous Cayman T?
Please reply to this comment. I want one for my 991.2
It was hand made by a Autoshield in Stockholm and is not an item for sale. Sorry guess you wanted an item number...
Great review! I really agree with you on the interior and user interface (10:55); it's so much better and more intuitive than e.g. the 992. Guess I'm just another dinosaur ;-) But we are still Porsche customers...
Thanks David and agreed, we are still customers...
Do you have a code for the build sheet?
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Congratulations great car. For a person that would do more “B” roads than track time, daily drive what would you choose spyder or GTS ? Again congratulations on you beautiful car. Ciao
I belive I would go for the GTS 2.5 if I want to use the car as a summer daily and perhaps try a track day. Fit Öhlins Road and Track and you increases the comfort and performance.
Thanks
Janko great review on the SPYDER. I have a 991.2 Turbo in my garage. I was gonna trade my Corvette 427 in for a C8 as my daily driver but seeing your reviews on the 718 SPYDER has me leaning toward it over the C8 ZO6 just due to the “Driver’s Car” feel of the SPYDER. Similar cost in comparison but the C8 ZO6 will be much faster but not the enjoyment that the SPYDER will delivery.
I am subscribed to your channel. Cheers
Welcome to my channel and our community. I don't know much about Corvette but the Spyder is a drivers car.
Janko, love your videos.
I sold my 2016 GT4 this past summer and I am getting a Spyder in the next 1-2 months...can't wait. I was wondering if you could help me out. I am deleting the badge off the rear deck and I am interested in getting a "spyder" one like you have. I am having no luck finding a supplier. Is there any chance that you could help me out. thanks
Sorry for late reply :-(
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the 981 boxster spyder with 3.8 engine sounds better? Because no opf.
Correct but there is solutions. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Here in the States. Many speed bumps. Hate them. Therefore, likely to get 4.0 GTS Boxster instead. Janko.... you agree for daily driver?
For a daily, I would go for a GTS 2.5.
Janko Lind we can’t get a new 2.5 GTS here in the States anymore.
Here in Spain the same lots of speed bumps (all drivers hate them) i have no problems driving the 718 Spyder so far did not hit the front lip but incase i do Porsche sells the front lip for 100 euro. Worse than speed bumps is excess to the garage as in Spain lots of them are underground but also manageable. Good luck what ever you decide.
Awesome review my friend. As usual, very professional review.
I Love that car and yes I would have taken it over the gt4...
I would probably keep it and not buy a 992 GT3...
Thanks Moe, not a easy decision.
I just found an allotment, placed my order.
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Great review, and I appreciate your honesty regarding your longer-term intentions to order at 992 GT3. That being said, I do find it hard to believe that your manual car with 420 hp would keep up with a 500PS PDK equipped GT3…🤔
I agree, that’s my problem in my head but I’m not saying I was faster, I was keeping up with him.
Partly because the car is lighter.
Great video once again, Janko! And the car looks absolutely stunning. From what I've seen so far, the 992.1 GT3 won't have half as nice exterior lines as the Spyder... But GT3 is always GT3, no question. Even though I have contemplated changing my 991.2 GT3 for a Spyder... I presume you're going for manual gbx also in the 992 GT3? If not - I will cancel my subscription for your channel! ;D
Good to know that you will not cancel your subscription Erik. :-)
981 spyder is very close on B roads, sounds much better. And it’s cheaper !
As I always say, there is a Porsche for everybody.
Great video and wonderful car. Love the stealth look and the way you spec-ed the car except for the parking assist which seems out of place for a rather small sports car and in my opinion ruins the look of the rear bumper. Keep up the good work...
Thanks Eric and I agree to your comment a 100 %
It would be cooler with an Arum Spyder badge at the back. 😎
It was before I painted it black, did not want any other colors on my car.
Janko...did you have issues with your ex spyder regarding the ground clearance with the stock suspension? I know you also putted the biggest front lip from the GT4, which probably made the capabilities of the car worse if we speak about going in or out from garages ramps , speed bumps, pat holes, etc....i am trying to figure out for my self is it possible to drive spyder 4.0 or GTS 4.0 daily...i don't care if the spyder is a bit firmer , the ground clearence and mainly the height of the front lip is what bothers me most....also probably the noise levels for long journeys (i made a lot) is higher into the spyder cabin with roof up... do you thing it's ok to drive 1000 per day with this car (comfort seats for me ;-)....thanks in advance for your opinions
The GTS 4.0 is the last Porsche I will buy (unless I get a ridiculously good price) I did not have any issues with the clearance. Remember the perk with the GT4 Spyder is that you have adjustable springs wish to make it possible to lift and lower your car.
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@@JankoLind thanks a lot...btw i am one of your first subscribers and i big fan of your channel :-)...
Great review but you did not touch on the gear ratios. Seems to be the only but considerable issue for this car. What are your thoughts?
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Which hre wheels are those, please?
P104SC
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do you like spyder more than GT3 991.2?
That a tuff one... Do I have to answer? it varies depending on my mood.
is that the factory GT silver?
Yes but with Autoshield PPF, Xpel Stealth. Gives a more aluminium look to it. Thanks for watching and subscribing
PTV is the poor man’s eLSD. You must agree, Janko! First off, PTV slows you down, as it applies the brake. Why won’t Porsche fit a proper electronic LSD?
PTV includes a LSD. This is the most underestimated point of PTV.
Thank you so much Hans-Joachim Scheidt for helping me to answer a comment. AND thank you both for contributing to OUR community. YES LSD is included in the manual gearbox configuration but not in the PDK.
Janko Lind Aha, thank you both! And the PTV/LSD is standard on the 718 Spyder, correct? I don’t see it in the options list, at least in Canada.
@@JankoLind That's no true, 981 and 718 the PTV option always includes LSD, manual or PDK doesn't matter. You are right on the the Carrera T ! I am not 100% sure on the Cayman T, but the Porsche web site says LSD is standard equipment, no hint that it is removed with PDK. I drive a 981 GTS with PDK, PTV and LSD....
718 Spyder Motor based on a 992 with the turbos removed and the displacement increased to 4 liters. Not a GT3 derived motor which is found in the 991.2 Speedster. Yes the sound is crippled..
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Thanks for the review.
really wish they offered ventilated seats in these :(
LOL and a champagne fridge and Cristal glass.
@@JankoLind now you're talking!
Sport tech seats
Yeah. I also wish an auto top was at least an option. But. I understand Janko’s opinion on the matter.
The black plastic trim between the two rear haunches looks so cheap, why on Earth didn’t they make that look better.
out of curiosity wish material would you like? Carbon-fiber will wear badly over time...
Janko Lind certainly not Carbon Fibre, that’s just a con of the decade waiting for it to yellow badly and for people to realise their mistake. I think it should be in the same body colour.
Looking forward to this one! Beautiful car!
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Thanks for sharing smiles 11
Can u please do a video on a 996 turbo
That would be super, I have actually owned a 996 Turbo back in the days. Hmmm, need to find one. Perhaps you have honoured me with your subscription?
I got nothing to say about your review. U are right u are a Dinosaur
I want i want i want i want !!!!
She is a beauty...
At 1:57 I see even the door panel is laughing.
Once you see it you can't unsee it.
This many people agree
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Feeling good, I can not see the door panel laugh...
don’t you need to have a front license plate in Sweden? 😝
Yes...
GT3 power lol, ptv sucks just wears rear brakes !!!
You do know I have owned a 991.2 GT3?
@@JankoLind Yes but running side to side you would see a big differance ;-)
@@JankoLind th-cam.com/video/DSNkZA7K1ys/w-d-xo.html SPyder 60% of a GT3 :-)
But Porsche does not refer to the 718 Spyder as a "GT" car. Whereas they do refer to the 718 Cayman GT as the Cayman "GT". Probably because of the Cayman GT's adjustable suspension, a hard top roof, and perhaps other items that make it more of a serious track car. I don't know, I'm not an expert. But wishing the Spyder to be a Porsche GT car does not make it so. Sorry!
They are mechanically the same exact car Jumpseat, one just has a soft top and no rear wing ( GT3 Touring has no rear wing). As for the name not having 'GT', that's like saying the 911 R is also not a GT car. The primary reason the 718 GT4 has better performance than the prior generation is due to the work that was developed by the GT division to create downforce on the Spyder, which they carried over to the GT4. Hard to call one a GT and not the other with the 718 generation. Sorry!
The 718 Spyder is a GT car as the GT4. Everything is identical including the adjustable suspension. But they try to hide that a little bit to justify the higher price of the coupe (which should be lower than the open top version). With the 981 Spyder you are right. No GT engine, no GT suspension.
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And Radnom Hawks and Hans-Joachim is 100% correct the 718 Spyder is a GT car. Thanks you all for watching and subscribing to my channel.
@@JankoLind Sorry Janko, I thought in one of your videos you stated that the GT4 had an adjustable suspension (for track days) but that the Spyder did not have this feature. If I am wrong than I apologize.
Janko Lind. Hey, I just watched a PCA TH-cam review of the Spyder and a seemingly very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic went over in detail the engine and suspension of the Spyder. In this interview he actually said that “the Spyder is a 718 GT4 without the roof”. So my comment regarding the Gt4’s adjustable suspension vs the Spyder’s suspension was wrong. I stand corrected. Too bad though they didn’t name it the Spyder GT. Oh well, I still think the Spyder is the more beautiful of the two.
i can't watch this guy. 15 seconds in I shut it off.