Collected my 718 spyder a couple of weeks ago, driven 1400 kilometers already :) LOVE IT. It's a head turner for sure. Will enjoy my top down as soon as the weather allows it. Much love from sweden!
I own 718 GT4 and unlike many car reviewers I don't see long gearing as a problem. The problem for me is engine sound which was a surprise to me. Not that it's terrible but when you think of the way this engine may sound... yeah, it's pretty bad in stock. OPF has to be removed which is exactly what I'm gonna do soon. I'm currently looking at Akrapovic link pipes.
Not a Porcsche owner (commenting from my wife’s account), but this is a terrrifc video, the commentary is excellent and camera work is interesting. I like that we can see yuu taking, the interior of the car, as well as the surrounding area where you are driving. Can’t wait to check out your other content.
Those ratio are geared for the track. Some reviewers that I watched stating 2nd gear is to tall which they drive around the canyon redlining from 2nd to 3rd only then back to 2nd and so forth. Good review.
Definitely not good hair pin ratios. But thankfully first gear is long, and violent. The only problem is the 1-2 grind which may pop up its ugly head 🤣
Good points about the gearing. I have both 981 and 718 and have really never found issues once the car is run in. People need to learn to drive the cars correctly.
Lovely car Pete. I recommend you drive a PDK gearbox and then give your opinion on manual v PDK. In my opinion the PDK gearbox really suits the 718 GT4 and Spyder. Especially in PDK Sport, it feels like a mini GT3. I owned a 981 Spyder for 18 months and used it as a daily driver. I managed to put the roof down in 23 seconds in one of my videos. By the way I currently have a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and I generally love manual gearboxes.
Thank you. Unfortunately I havent had the opportunity to drive the gt4/spyder with pdk, but did watch your video and it looked very engaging. I sold the spyder, GT3 touring coming in spring (also manual) but would love to still experience the pdk in the 718. PS your 4.0 is legendary that is a forever car.
One minor correction, the 981 Spyder has the same torque, 309 lb ft, BUT at lower RPM, 4750 instead of 5000. 981 is also 200-300 lbs lighter so the power/weight ratio is pretty close. 0-60 is 0.1 sec slower.
The 718 powertrain is a step up. Drove both and its noticeable especially mid range and very top end power band. Just being honest. I sold the car so i have no skin in the game to lie
Great video from an owner enthusiast. I like your blacked out steering wheel. Porsche should have just carried over the wheel and the side scoops from the GT4 and called it "GT4 Spyder".
Beautiful car and love the seats..had a 2002 boxster in Racing yellow and now have a 2014 991.1 in Racing Yellow with full glass sunroof. Love the Spider though 👍👍❤️
@@plife911 I agree 100%. I don't think ill ever sell that car, the experience you get driving is special. Than again, its almost 10 years old now and getting outdated.
Porsche exhausts are very restrictive. Full aftermarket exhaust and stage two tune will yield 360 lb/ft and 460 hp on this engine. Besides that you lose considerable weight. Not to mention the bad ass sounds!
I was lucky enough to get a build from Porsche of Newport Beach for 718 Spyder - GT silver, red interior with a PDK. It’s super fast. It’s so fast that it can spin the tires when it’s downshifting under hard acceleration. The 718 is one of the finest Porsches I’ve owned in 40 years. And it is stunning beautiful!
All those people said the transmission was amazing. They never argued it wasn’t. The ratio argument is irrefutable. It’s a drivers car and the point of getting the manual is so that you can experience that amazing transmission by shifting through the gears. The stock ratios make it to where you don’t get to shift that much. It takes away from the excitement because you don’t get to use because of the insanely tall gears. Also, the roof takes 20 seconds to operate in either direction... if you aren’t an idiot. No sympathy.
The spyder is gone because im getting other stuff. In retrospect the manual in the 718 gt4 is AMAZING. I drove a 992 gt3 and didnt like the manual as much unless you are going bonkers with the car. Lightweight flywheel completely transforms the gearbox which really makes it more of a preference issue. Also liked the 991.2 trans better. I will say this. The 992 chassis is 3 steps forward from anything Porsche has ever made which plays heavily into the trans decision it becomes completely driver skill and use case dependent. Tougher choice by far
Hi, one of you negative points is that you can not speed shift the car. You even refer to Janko Lind video with Andreas Preuninger as a source validating your point. I think you heard wrong. Please go to Janko’s video with Andreas and in minute 5:10 Janko asks Andreas if these cars can be speed shifted to which he replies that both GT4 and Spyder can be speed shifted. Hope this makes you happy. *Speed shifting is changing gears without depressing the clutch pedal.
Thanks for the review... been shopping for a 997 GT3 but with prices and inventory being kind of stupid at the moment the GT4 / Spyder is starting to look like a way more attractive option... that and the ability to configure it exactly the way you want it... I think the 718 Spyder will be the first "GT" car that Porsche has made (that isn't an ultra limited edition like the speedster) that will be more desirable than her hardtop cousin
I had a 997.1 GT3 and swapped for 981 Spyder 3 years ago. As much as I loved the thrill of the GT3, the Spyder is a much superior road car and easily as fast in the real world. Looks super cool too.
Still in my engine run in period, but it is a truly exceptional vehicle for canyons and twisties! Concur with your shifter and gear ratio comments. What brand and type of cell phone holder did you install in your vehicle?
Hey :) Great video! Were getting a 718 Spyder too, also in Gt Silvermetallic. But we "forgot" to choose the 2 way adjustable automatic climate control. Its now in production so its to late to change the configuration. What do you think of the standart climate control? Is it complicated or annoying to use? Would be amesome if you could give me an answer to this question. The fact that we forgot to choose it drives me crazy. Greetings from Germany! Your videos are awesome :)
Its fine for a weekend car but very slow operation. I didnt spec the auto climate but if its your daily it may be annoying. Thanks for the kind words 🙌🏻👍🏻
@@GanstarNoah1899 my pleasure. I wouldnt worry about it to be honest because the spyder is meant to be more racecar. I never get into my spyder and say, man i wish i had automatic climate control. It doesnt have an automatic roof either and i dont have steering wheel buttons or auto dim mirrors or any of the gadgets. I like it better that way. Cheers 🍻
@@plife911 Very good point there! Your absolutly right, the spyder is much more like a "racecar" than the normal 718 boxter series. You could also call it a purist drivers car. Multifunctional steering wheel, automatic climate control and other gadgets are not important in such a car. Thanks again for your opinion! Now I feel much better with my decision. We also picked it as a manual. In 2 weeks we can finally pick it up. Great anticipation to drive the car for the first time.
🤣. Ive been in all gears at all speeds including cruising on the highway in 6th but not very often. Also been in higher gears just putting around town or when on phone calls so its quiet in the cabin.
Nice. Love all of those 2500 shifts. Don't think I have ever short shifted as much as you have. would of like to have seen a few 8500 RPM shifts. Pdk would be great for track. What about the alcantera wheel, would you still do that? Heard lots of people don't like the wear pattern. If you are going to track the car, steel is better than ceramic, due to excessive wear.
Going faster in the exhaust videos where i dont need to speak. The car is a little loud for voice audio over 5000 rpm. I do have some footage mobbing the gt3 in more recenr videos
@@plife911 I like the short shifting personally, basically everyone in videos constantly drives like a lunatic. Gears aren't too long if you don't go to redline!
2021 Spyder with PDK owner......roof operation not a big issue.....sound is awesome...start stop issue... just hit the cancel button...THIS CAR IS A BEAST......The 718 Spyder is an incredible machine (Super Car).....This review is a joke! This car is amazing!
Thanks for watching. I was clickbait nitpicking to some extent. The positives far outweigh the negatives. Agree on the car being amazing even compared to supercars
Yeah the more i drove it the better it was. Im glad the gt3 is long also. These cars are animals especially with headers its super violent. The less shifting the better imo
Hello Pete, is it possible that the bucket seats of your friends Spyder has been - aftermarket - inclined more, so that sitting in it is a little less straight / more comfortable? I'm particularly interested in this because I 'm seriously thinking about buying a 718 Spyder, and I would like to order the bucket seats, but they are really to straight for me, I mean that I want to sit a little less straight ... is this possible?
Yeah he has the reclining brackets. He loves it. I just added foam pads and got some lumbar support and the positon was fine. U can check my instagram for the foam install pics
Hi Pete. Greetings from the UK. Nice review giving your own personal opinion after having driven the car. Really like the gold Spyder badges on the side and the back of your friends Spyder. Please can I ask where to get these from as I would like to put them on mine. Do they come in gold or would I have to get them painted?
As a fellow 718 Spyder GT Silver Spyder owner, I enjoyed the review. Can you share where you ordered your bucket seat inserts from? Thanks and looking forward to the exhaust mod video. My exhaust from Soul came in last month and looking forward to installing once we get out of this winter weather. 🏎 💨
@@plife911 Much appreciated. If either of you have any interest in a set of steeply discounted OEM Dunlop Race Maxx 2s that are basically new...let me know, as I'm also in IL.
I am a lucky owner of a 2021 718 silver Spyder with burgundy interior and carbon seats as well!!! and taking it out for a first drive today. I was wondering where your friend ordered the black inserts and black leather shift knob from. Love the inserts as well.
@@plife911 thanks , I am assuming that the steering wheel black inserts were suncoast as well and most importantly do the seat inserts have a traditional pe pita ( black and cream ) or is there an alternating black and burgundy pattern as well) I can’t feel in the video.thanks
@@plife911 I have a 2021 Spyder. The phone mount is a must and I gotta have those EdGuard inserts. Can’t wait to see and hear your exhaust. Traded a 981 GTS and the sound was waaaay better.
Congrats on the new Porsche. I have to ask, how do you compare the Spyder to your olde 911 T? Shifting and engine and exhaust sound. I went from. 991.1 S to a 991.2 GTS but am really considering a 718 GT4 now. Would like your feedback
@@plife911 Oh no, cmon. That much better? You’re killing me. What’s more fun, the Spyder or you previous R8? I know both are different, but I’m guessing the Spyder is just more fun.
@@plife911 I see thank you! I am lucky enough to have an allocation to order one, I live in Los Angeles so whether isn't an issue. Just deciding if I really want to daily this car or not is my only concern!
@@plife911 Hey could you please tell what the distance between your front splitter and the ground is? Trying to figure out how close it is to what I'm currently driving! 🙏
Beautifull car...sort of reminicent of my 2008 Saturn Sky 😉 (minus the engine and the price tag 😂). I must say I fail to understand the need of such a powerfull engine on a convertible. To me, past 80 mph with the top down, the ride really starts to be less enjoyable. But definitly an amazing automobile! Congrats!
Never understood the gear ratio complaint. On a track you might want a different setup.but on the street? Many cars nowadays hit 60 mph in 1st and 85 - 95 in 2nd. Hell my 22 year old Viper pulls 59 in1st and 93 in 2nd. The gear ratio in my 987.2 Cayman has never been an issue for me. Great video! Subscribing.
I'm 6"4 in your opinion could I fit comfortably in this Porsche? A Lamborghini Huracan I have no chance, you have to be 5"10 or less which is ridiculous.
The bose is actually pretty decent. In my gt3 touring bose is garbage. I would re spec the bose in the spyder but now there is a bose shortage maybe consider the berm. Others have stated the berm is very good in the 718
He went for nothing too crazy!?!...the bucket seats, Carbon brakes and the PDLS (Plus) Bi-Xenon) headlights - that's about 10k right there of options!! Like the after market yellow Porsche strip on the door which goes nicely with the brake callipers.
I’ve owned 5 Porsches and was at the F1 track for the new 911 launch. This dude sounded drab at first but then I’m like damn, dude really knows his stuff! Woulda love to talk to him at the track instead of a bunch of posers 😂😂😂
@@plife911 I'm a previous 991.1 C2S then 718 Spyder owner myself. Considered the R8 V10 Plus as the next step. Wondering what your opinion was about the R8 compared to 911 and 718?
R8 was boring unless you were going way too fast for the street. If i had to do it again i would have skipped it and gone for the lambo because its dialed in to feel more special at all speeds. Also im enjoying the 718 more than the turbocharged 911. My next 911 will be NA 💯
Love it, best looking Porsche at the moment even better looking than the 991 Speedster as the A$$ is to fat. Thanks for the review, although its yr view, appreciated. Sorry about the roof i don’t agree its fun to do in my book same for the manual transmission its all done for a reason. For one the roof saves weight and looks good matching the lines of the humps, the manual tranny Porsche reasoned short gears will kill you as to much to handle for most. I own one in the South of Spain and had the top up ones by pickup at Porsche have fun Guys its the best looking car Porsche makes.
So gears don't look as long as some reviewers say? I see you putting third gear very fast, according to some videos you can be in second gear until you hit 137km/h. I'm so confused haha. Great video by the way.
I think driving like a hooligan isnt good for the transmission in general 🤣 thankfully replacing the clutch/pressure plate/master cylinder is like $5k with labor on the manual (vs $20k for a pdk replacement). What baffles me is that porsche has launch control programmed into the manual, but ive never tried it because it seems pointless and violent on a stick car
Also forgot to mention the gt3 has transmission software that allows you to no lift shift without damaging the gearbox. It pins the revs at the current position so you dont bang off the limiter
I wish i could have afforded to keep it man! Great car, it drove beautifully and looked like the dog’s bollocks. Also since driving more 718s and GT3s in manual i actually think the 718 gearbox is my favorite despite the long gears
@@plife911 It doesn’t even have to be electric. It could be like the hardtop on the 918 Spyder, which would probably weigh less than the retractable top on the current 718 Spyder. Ideally it would be a 2 piece removable hardtop, made of carbon fiber, aluminum, or magnesium, and it could be stored behind the seats.
One thing I don’t understand is why you are driving it on really dull suburban roads Would like to see it being driven on the sort of traffic free twisting fun roads where it belongs Otherwise nice review
Love that car, but i just saw a video where it lost to the new BMW M2 CS in a straight race, and the convertible is going to add weight, so this car isn't quite fast enough, faster than anything that i have ever driven and the looks, the looks....
Stock its not super fast I agree but with a full exhaust its actually more responsive and noticeably faster. Probably as fast as a 992 carrera s at speed. The car gets violent theres alot of power uncorked especially with headers/opf delete
Last in a straight race? I think you’re missing the point. You buy this go around corners not drag race. If straight line speed is your thing, there are many other choices.
I'm sorry to be late to the party and disagreeing on some points. I also own one since Feb. 2020 here in Italy. Since then i only put 2100 kms on the clock due to lockdown etc. Before this i owned a 718 2.0 which was a brilliant car for its price range and with PDK gearbox it was fairly quick (I reckon it got an engine map with 355ps and 450nm of torque). This one, considering that is about 50% more expensive, it has been pretty disappointing. 1. Engine delivery is flat and does not feel like a 420 ps engine, i was expecting more character and shove at high rpm with a rev limiter which for a n.a. engine in this class is only 8k. 2. Gear ratios especially second, are really tall for use on twisty roads and accelation as well. Gearbox fell is good but not so stellar. And finally the roof which is utterly and stupidly complicated, involving rear boot as well. You can't even open the latter with the roof up. A Lotus for example is a much more simple and straightforward process. You release the latches on side rails and you're done. Now i'm desperatly trying to get rid of it, the car is advertised from a few month but nobody seem to want it.
Ciao,Roberto ! Felt kind of sad reading your opinion on the Spyder, am planning on buying one used at 10.000km and price at around 104k euro. Many reviews are very positive on the manual Spyder in general.. But right now questioning my decision or maybe should be looking into a Pdk Spyder or 718GTS 4.0. Any advice from you ? Grazie mille !
@@plife911 Hi ! Was seriously considering buying one at 7k miles, 100keuro, beautiful spec..., would you agreen on his opinion ? Seems like a serious let-down since never had the chance to drive it yet. Or what other Porsche would you suggest in this price range ? Wouldn't mind manual 😀
if you live like in Mediterranean climate with 300+ sunny days, you wouldn't put roof up at all you will just drive in garage.. Spyder is all about roof down from my perspective, cos it is pain in ''a..''
Roof down its such an amazing experience. Have been doing it this month in the 30’s and 40’s Farenheit (under 10C). That said, i would still store it with the roof up because it gets wrinkled and there are two circular tabs the make spots on the top of the roof after a few weeks. But you are correct the top down experience is what this car is all about! 💯
@@plife911 It also has the exact same performance stats as the base cayman I already own. That surprised me, considering this car is $45, 000.00 CA$ more than a base Cayman.
For 100 grand I would’ve just saved up a little bit more and got the base model 911 Turbo Carerra. Not quite the Turbo S but pretty damn close for a lot less money but much better than any Boxter. Kind of like an in between car between the Boxter and the Turbo S.
Its a good option. You get rear seats and a better street car. But its not NA and you cant get a 6 speed manual in any carrera (or any manual on the base). It also doesnt have the GT special sauce. But i totally get it the spyder is so expensive you can totally cross shop a 911 now
Totally wrong …. This car is nicer to look at more fun and better engine than anything 911 other than the Turbo and Turbo S of Course … also it is more a collectable car then any carerra … FACTS
I have to drive the base 911 Carerra, and settle this for myself once and for all. I drove the GT3 around Mosport here in Ontario. I also drove my base Cayman around the same track. I can't say the GT3 was that much more impressive at all, especially when you consider the whopping price difference!! The engine is still better placed in the 718. Porsche finally admitted this, or they would not have put a GT3 engine in the Cayman and created the 718 GT4RS. I fear the 911 Carerra will drive like an executive luxury car, and not a sports car.
You can no-lift-shift any car...once! But seriously, if you want to no-lift-shift you should have gotten a PDK. The beauty of the 6 speed is that you have something more to do with your right foot than just try to push it through the firewall! The only complaint I have with my 718 GT4 6 speed is the PCCB brake sensitivity that makes it harder to heel-toe on gentle deceleration. Your comment about the engine sound is interesting because everyone's focus is so much on exhaust sound but listen to the inside noises in a real race car and they are dominated by mechanical sounds...which is just what you get in the GT4/Spyder...
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Collected my 718 spyder a couple of weeks ago, driven 1400 kilometers already :) LOVE IT. It's a head turner for sure. Will enjoy my top down as soon as the weather allows it. Much love from sweden!
Glad to hear you are loving it🤩 cant wait for both of us to hit the first really nice day without the top
This was an EXCELLENT review. I appreciate your candid thoughts on the Spyder. Very nicely done sir! And your buddy's exhaust system...WOW!
Thank you Jim!
Thank you for speaking well of the transmission ratios, unlike everyone else that had made a review of this car.
Every Spyder model I've seen on the road looks amazing. 987, 981 and 718. It's just one of the better looking cars out there IMO.
💯Preach brother💪🏻
I collected a 981 Spyder last year GT Silver over Garnet Red, PCCBs😹
Fellow 718 Spyder owner here. I agree with all the points you made. I love my car. Good luck and enjoy yours.
Thank you James! And appreciate the support! Driving season is around the corner cant wait 🥳
Such a spot-on review. Over 20,000 miles into mine and still loving it.
Best review I’ve seen on the 718 Spyder.
Wow Mark! Thank you that means alot. Made my day 😎💪🏻
Another great Review, Pete and thanks for the content. Thanks to you I now have my own Macan GTS and put on the first 1200 miles!
Awesome!!!! Glad to hear you enjoyed the content and it was practical and useful for you 💪🏻 congrats and enjoy the gts in good health
A great example of why owners’ opinions are all that matter when it comes to reviews and opinions.
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻. Thanks Carter
Your channel is severely underrated. Keep doing what you arw doing
Nice review, appreciate the owner’s perspective. Other channels trying to hard to sell or haven’t put the miles in to provide a proper review.
Thanks chief!
I own 718 GT4 and unlike many car reviewers I don't see long gearing as a problem. The problem for me is engine sound which was a surprise to me. Not that it's terrible but when you think of the way this engine may sound... yeah, it's pretty bad in stock. OPF has to be removed which is exactly what I'm gonna do soon. I'm currently looking at Akrapovic link pipes.
Your buddies exhaust is amazing! And I agree about the gearing.
Not a Porcsche owner (commenting from my wife’s account), but this is a terrrifc video, the commentary is excellent and camera work is interesting. I like that we can see yuu taking, the interior of the car, as well as the surrounding area where you are driving. Can’t wait to check out your other content.
Thank you for watching! Appreciate the kind words as well.
Love the video , thank you Pete , and we looking forward for your exhaust and next video
Exhaust battle!!!!
Thanks man! You know its about to go down 💪🏻🏎💨
Those ratio are geared for the track. Some reviewers that I watched stating 2nd gear is to tall which they drive around the canyon redlining from 2nd to 3rd only then back to 2nd and so forth. Good review.
Yup I think the long gear ratios will be awkward around hairpins and tight roads in the canyons.
Definitely not good hair pin ratios. But thankfully first gear is long, and violent. The only problem is the 1-2 grind which may pop up its ugly head 🤣
Great review and spot on. Just picked up a 2021 Spyder with 2k miles….love it!
Good points about the gearing. I have both 981 and 718 and have really never found issues once the car is run in. People need to learn to drive the cars correctly.
Agree. I have 981 Spyder and have no gearing complaints at all, in fact just perfect for ‘spirited’ road driving imo
awesome review with clear information .. thank you
For 'not being an automotive journalist' you sure do a darn good job....
Thank you Brett!
Excellent pros and conns!
Lovely car Pete. I recommend you drive a PDK gearbox and then give your opinion on manual v PDK. In my opinion the PDK gearbox really suits the 718 GT4 and Spyder. Especially in PDK Sport, it feels like a mini GT3. I owned a 981 Spyder for 18 months and used it as a daily driver. I managed to put the roof down in 23 seconds in one of my videos. By the way I currently have a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and I generally love manual gearboxes.
Thank you. Unfortunately I havent had the opportunity to drive the gt4/spyder with pdk, but did watch your video and it looked very engaging. I sold the spyder, GT3 touring coming in spring (also manual) but would love to still experience the pdk in the 718. PS your 4.0 is legendary that is a forever car.
One minor correction, the 981 Spyder has the same torque, 309 lb ft, BUT at lower RPM, 4750 instead of 5000. 981 is also 200-300 lbs lighter so the power/weight ratio is pretty close. 0-60 is 0.1 sec slower.
The 718 powertrain is a step up. Drove both and its noticeable especially mid range and very top end power band. Just being honest. I sold the car so i have no skin in the game to lie
You’re completely credible, I love all Spyders, especially my 981.
@@clu4u its a great car
Absolute perfect spec!!!
Thank you 🙌🏻💪🏻
Great video from an owner enthusiast. I like your blacked out steering wheel. Porsche should have just carried over the wheel and the side scoops from the GT4 and called it "GT4 Spyder".
Thanks man. I actually thought about putting more gt4 stuff on it 🤣
Such a cool car!
Thank you!!! The more I drive it the better it gets 🥳
Damn, this car is strong, almost muscle car like. Good video
Beautiful car and love the seats..had a 2002 boxster in Racing yellow and now have a 2014 991.1 in Racing Yellow with full glass sunroof. Love the Spider though 👍👍❤️
Currently own the 2012 Boxster spyder ... would love to add this one next to it.
Theyre both great. The 718 is a nice step up in performance but the 987 spyder is a special car especially with the canopy
@@plife911 I agree 100%. I don't think ill ever sell that car, the experience you get driving is special. Than again, its almost 10 years old now and getting outdated.
I ALWAYS LIKE YOUR REVIEW...
Thank you very much 🥳💪🏻
Thnks for the Video, got my 22 three weeks ago, Love it.
Congrats! Enjoy it in good health 💪🏻
Porsche exhausts are very restrictive. Full aftermarket exhaust and stage two tune will yield 360 lb/ft and 460 hp on this engine. Besides that you lose considerable weight. Not to mention the bad ass sounds!
I was lucky enough to get a build from Porsche of Newport Beach for 718 Spyder - GT silver, red interior with a PDK.
It’s super fast. It’s so fast that it can spin the tires when it’s downshifting under hard acceleration.
The 718 is one of the finest Porsches I’ve owned in 40 years. And it is stunning beautiful!
Agreed! Thank you for watching🙌🏻
All those people said the transmission was amazing. They never argued it wasn’t. The ratio argument is irrefutable. It’s a drivers car and the point of getting the manual is so that you can experience that amazing transmission by shifting through the gears. The stock ratios make it to where you don’t get to shift that much. It takes away from the excitement because you don’t get to use because of the insanely tall gears.
Also, the roof takes 20 seconds to operate in either direction... if you aren’t an idiot. No sympathy.
What spec did u get?
You musta got pretty deep into the video thanks for watching 👍🏻 Just curious how did you spec your spyder?
The spyder is gone because im getting other stuff. In retrospect the manual in the 718 gt4 is AMAZING. I drove a 992 gt3 and didnt like the manual as much unless you are going bonkers with the car. Lightweight flywheel completely transforms the gearbox which really makes it more of a preference issue. Also liked the 991.2 trans better. I will say this. The 992 chassis is 3 steps forward from anything Porsche has ever made which plays heavily into the trans decision it becomes completely driver skill and use case dependent. Tougher choice by far
Hi, one of you negative points is that you can not speed shift the car. You even refer to Janko Lind video with Andreas Preuninger as a source validating your point. I think you heard wrong. Please go to Janko’s video with Andreas and in minute 5:10 Janko asks Andreas if these cars can be speed shifted to which he replies that both GT4 and Spyder can be speed shifted. Hope this makes you happy.
*Speed shifting is changing gears without depressing the clutch pedal.
Fe de errata: speed shifting is changing gear without depressing the accelerator pedal.
Its not available on the 718 unfortunately
Nice video, quick question, Where did you get the cover up sticker for the sun visor warning labels? Thanks
Ebay. There is a guy in canada
Thanks for the review... been shopping for a 997 GT3 but with prices and inventory being kind of stupid at the moment the GT4 / Spyder is starting to look like a way more attractive option... that and the ability to configure it exactly the way you want it... I think the 718 Spyder will be the first "GT" car that Porsche has made (that isn't an ultra limited edition like the speedster) that will be more desirable than her hardtop cousin
I had a 997.1 GT3 and swapped for 981 Spyder 3 years ago. As much as I loved the thrill of the GT3, the Spyder is a much superior road car and easily as fast in the real world. Looks super cool too.
Yeah I like the gear ratio being long, you have a nice car looking forward to exhaust upgrade
Exhaust upgrade is soooo good! Also i like the manual on this car better than on the 992 gt3
Just excellent!!
great, honest review!
Thanks boss. Sorry i had to steal the term “hair dryer” from you 😂😂😂
@@plife911 hairdryer/dyson hand dryer
Who did those seats at 3:21?
Ed Guard
Great review
Thank you Harry 👍🏻
The cell phone holder you have, I like it. What one and where did you get it? Great overall video.
Thanks! The phone mount is rennline
Can you specify which Kline exhaust your buddy has-is it the valvetronic inconel or stainless steel-love that Lamborghini like note.
100% inconel. Headers with 200 cell cats. Complete rear with opf deletes. Valves disconnected
Still in my engine run in period, but it is a truly exceptional vehicle for canyons and twisties! Concur with your shifter and gear ratio comments. What brand and type of cell phone holder did you install in your vehicle?
Rennline phone mount. Theres 2 this one is the one that goes next to the pcm
I was offered a Boxster GTS yesterday from my dealer. Not sure if I should trade my 992. I miss my 981 and the mid engine….thoughts?
Hey :) Great video! Were getting a 718 Spyder too, also in Gt Silvermetallic. But we "forgot" to choose the 2 way adjustable automatic climate control. Its now in production so its to late to change the configuration. What do you think of the standart climate control? Is it complicated or annoying to use? Would be amesome if you could give me an answer to this question. The fact that we forgot to choose it drives me crazy.
Greetings from Germany! Your videos are awesome :)
Its fine for a weekend car but very slow operation. I didnt spec the auto climate but if its your daily it may be annoying. Thanks for the kind words 🙌🏻👍🏻
@@plife911 Thank you for your quick answer and your honest opinion. I appreciate that a lot :) Best regards
@@GanstarNoah1899 my pleasure. I wouldnt worry about it to be honest because the spyder is meant to be more racecar. I never get into my spyder and say, man i wish i had automatic climate control. It doesnt have an automatic roof either and i dont have steering wheel buttons or auto dim mirrors or any of the gadgets. I like it better that way. Cheers 🍻
@@plife911 Very good point there! Your absolutly right, the spyder is much more like a "racecar" than the normal 718 boxter series. You could also call it a purist drivers car. Multifunctional steering wheel, automatic climate control and other gadgets are not important in such a car. Thanks again for your opinion! Now I feel much better with my decision. We also picked it as a manual. In 2 weeks we can finally pick it up. Great anticipation to drive the car for the first time.
Good content. Like your spec. We have a 16 Blue GT4 with PCCBs and yellow stitching similar to yours coming next week from Colorado.
Thank you and congrats! Love blue and yellow. 🙌🏻👍🏻
What’s highest gear you put the car into and what speed?
🤣. Ive been in all gears at all speeds including cruising on the highway in 6th but not very often. Also been in higher gears just putting around town or when on phone calls so its quiet in the cabin.
What phone holder is that? How do you get those seats?
Phone holder-rennline
Seat covers -Ed Guard
Cheers
Nice. Love all of those 2500 shifts. Don't think I have ever short shifted as much as you have. would of like to have seen a few 8500 RPM shifts. Pdk would be great for track. What about the alcantera wheel, would you still do that? Heard lots of people don't like the wear pattern. If you are going to track the car, steel is better than ceramic, due to excessive wear.
Im short shifting so u can hear me. I dont drive like that off camera.
@@plife911 any videos of spirited driving?
Going faster in the exhaust videos where i dont need to speak. The car is a little loud for voice audio over 5000 rpm. I do have some footage mobbing the gt3 in more recenr videos
@@plife911 I like the short shifting personally, basically everyone in videos constantly drives like a lunatic. Gears aren't too long if you don't go to redline!
Those seats are killer. I’ve not seen that material offered on the configurator. Was that a special Tequipment option?
Thanks, they are aftermarket seat cover replacements from Ed Guard.
2021 Spyder with PDK owner......roof operation not a big issue.....sound is awesome...start stop issue... just hit the cancel button...THIS CAR IS A BEAST......The 718 Spyder is an incredible machine (Super Car).....This review is a joke!
This car is amazing!
Thanks for watching. I was clickbait nitpicking to some extent. The positives far outweigh the negatives. Agree on the car being amazing even compared to supercars
Early and most later Lamborghini manuals had about the same gearing and no one bitched about them.
Yeah the more i drove it the better it was. Im glad the gt3 is long also. These cars are animals especially with headers its super violent. The less shifting the better imo
Hello Pete, is it possible that the bucket seats of your friends Spyder has been - aftermarket - inclined more, so that sitting in it is a little less straight / more comfortable? I'm particularly interested in this because I 'm seriously thinking about buying a 718 Spyder, and I would like to order the bucket seats, but they are really to straight for me, I mean that I want to sit a little less straight ... is this possible?
Yeah he has the reclining brackets. He loves it. I just added foam pads and got some lumbar support and the positon was fine. U can check my instagram for the foam install pics
@@plife911 thanks a lot for your very fast reply, very useful! I don't find you on Instagram, but would like to follow you ...
Whats your instagram i will send u the foam post
Hi Pete. Greetings from the UK. Nice review giving your own personal opinion after having driven the car. Really like the gold Spyder badges on the side and the back of your friends Spyder. Please can I ask where to get these from as I would like to put them on mine. Do they come in gold or would I have to get them painted?
He just repainted the same ones but its hard to take them off. The porsche dealer can order them too but theyre expensive
rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-4-0-gt4-spyder-25th-anniversary/1252446-dyi-black-spyder-logos-2.html
More info can be found here. Hope this helps
As a fellow 718 Spyder GT Silver Spyder owner, I enjoyed the review. Can you share where you ordered your bucket seat inserts from? Thanks and looking forward to the exhaust mod video. My exhaust from Soul came in last month and looking forward to installing once we get out of this winter weather. 🏎 💨
The inserts are EdGuard. Ed is the man he will make whatever you want
@@plife911 Much appreciated. If either of you have any interest in a set of steeply discounted OEM Dunlop Race Maxx 2s that are basically new...let me know, as I'm also in IL.
You did a good job describing ! I concur with your + & -.
I am a lucky owner of a 2021 718 silver Spyder with burgundy interior and carbon seats as well!!! and taking it out for a first drive today. I was wondering where your friend ordered the black inserts and black leather shift knob from. Love the inserts as well.
Leather shift knob from suncoast. Inserts from Ed Guard usa
@@plife911 thanks , I am assuming that the steering wheel black inserts were suncoast as well and most importantly do the seat inserts have a traditional pe pita ( black and cream ) or is there an alternating black and burgundy pattern as well) I can’t feel in the video.thanks
Black inserts from suncoast. Call Edfie from EdGuard. He can make anything
Good review. What’s the brand of the cell phone mount?
Rennline
@@plife911 I have a 2021 Spyder. The phone mount is a must and I gotta have those EdGuard inserts. Can’t wait to see and hear your exhaust. Traded a 981 GTS and the sound was waaaay better.
can you share seat insert information , where to buy them and the stock # since I want to duplicate them
Tell Ed Saadi from Ed Guard USA you want the same inserts Pete did on his spyder. The fabric is from relicate its the vw golf R style plaid
Congrats on the new Porsche. I have to ask, how do you compare the Spyder to your olde 911 T? Shifting and engine and exhaust sound. I went from. 991.1 S to a 991.2 GTS but am really considering a 718 GT4 now. Would like your feedback
The spyder is better than the 911 T in every possible way imaginable including grip. The only thing it doesnt have is rear seats
@@plife911 Oh no, cmon. That much better? You’re killing me. What’s more fun, the Spyder or you previous R8? I know both are different, but I’m guessing the Spyder is just more fun.
Spyder. R8 was much faster but no feedback and too fast for street. I never even felt like doing a review video 🤣
Great video, would this car be suitable as a daily driver if it had the PDK? What makes the car unsuitable as a daily driver in your opinion?
Thanks! It depends where u live and what driving you do. Everything is possible but i wouldnt daily this in the winter it has low clearance
@@plife911 I see thank you! I am lucky enough to have an allocation to order one, I live in Los Angeles so whether isn't an issue. Just deciding if I really want to daily this car or not is my only concern!
If youre ok with the manual top you can daily this car. Just would recommend not doing buckets if you will be getting in and out alot.
@@plife911 Great, thank you!
@@plife911 Hey could you please tell what the distance between your front splitter and the ground is? Trying to figure out how close it is to what I'm currently driving! 🙏
What Phoneholder you use?? and whos the owner of the second spyder with the oldschool wheels (instagram)?
Rennline
@k_nut_3
Beautifull car...sort of reminicent of my 2008 Saturn Sky 😉 (minus the engine and the price tag 😂). I must say I fail to understand the need of such a powerfull engine on a convertible. To me, past 80 mph with the top down, the ride really starts to be less enjoyable. But definitly an amazing automobile! Congrats!
Never understood the gear ratio complaint. On a track you might want a different setup.but on the street? Many cars nowadays hit 60 mph in 1st and 85 - 95 in 2nd. Hell my 22 year old Viper pulls 59 in1st and 93 in 2nd. The gear ratio in my 987.2 Cayman has never been an issue for me.
Great video! Subscribing.
Thanks chief! I agree 100%
It’s the dickhead Matt Farrah making all that noise. 911 has the same 2nd gear ratio, so stfu, Matt.
Could you tell me what equipment do you use for your mobile phone?
Rennline phone mount
@@plife911 Thanks!
I'm 6"4 in your opinion could I fit comfortably in this Porsche? A Lamborghini Huracan I have no chance, you have to be 5"10 or less which is ridiculous.
I cant fit in a lambo at 5’11”. The porsche has tons more room especially 911 but even 718
How’s the sound system? Is it worth optioning the Burmester?
The bose is actually pretty decent. In my gt3 touring bose is garbage. I would re spec the bose in the spyder but now there is a bose shortage maybe consider the berm. Others have stated the berm is very good in the 718
@@plife911Hi ! May I ask, why traded the Spyder for the GT3 ? 🙃
@georgepotcovaru2595 i wanted to try gt3 but thats long gone. I have a spyder rs incoming
@@plife911 Honestly so glad you could get one ! Such a dream car !
Hello , what ‘s your support for your iPhone ?
Rennline phone mount
@@plife911 thanks you
Can I ask where you got the side stripes? The black with the yellow lettering is a perfect match on the silver!
autodesign.shop/collections/decals-stripes-stickers-for-porsche. They are hard to install unless you use soap water
@@plife911 Really appreciate it! Btw, the video with the BC fab exhaust, holy cow!
Your welcome! Yeah that was 🥸🤯🤯
He went for nothing too crazy!?!...the bucket seats, Carbon brakes and the PDLS (Plus) Bi-Xenon) headlights - that's about 10k right there of options!! Like the after market yellow Porsche strip on the door which goes nicely with the brake callipers.
I stand corrected. I went bonkers on performance options. But no electronic options
I’m in the UK waiting for my Spyder to arrive in May 🥳 Can I ask what is the phone holder you are using ?
Rennline
I’ve owned 5 Porsches and was at the F1 track for the new 911 launch. This dude sounded drab at first but then I’m like damn, dude really knows his stuff! Woulda love to talk to him at the track instead of a bunch of posers 😂😂😂
🤟🏻 thanks for checking out the video. Yeah i shoulda hit a cup of coffee before starting filming, then the car woke me up🤣
Great review Pete and love the look, sound and analog experience of the Spyder. Did you sell the Carrera T to swap out?
Thanks! Oh man... i traded the T for an R8 V10 plus then a 20 Aston Vantage, then this 🤣😳
Mid life crisis a couple years ago... bigtime
@@plife911 I'm a previous 991.1 C2S then 718 Spyder owner myself. Considered the R8 V10 Plus as the next step. Wondering what your opinion was about the R8 compared to 911 and 718?
R8 was boring unless you were going way too fast for the street. If i had to do it again i would have skipped it and gone for the lambo because its dialed in to feel more special at all speeds. Also im enjoying the 718 more than the turbocharged 911. My next 911 will be NA 💯
@@plife911 Thanks for the honest opinion. Sounds like GT3 is in the future. 😉
Very good 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It's 3,200 to 3,300 lbs. Only the GTS 4.0 models get into the ~3,100 lb region. GTS 4.0 also faster in a straight line with higher trap speed.
Mine was 3180. I have proform scales
Not stock tho. I had aftermaket exhaust when i weighed it
love the silver do you still own the car
No gone a long time ago unfortunately
Love it, best looking Porsche at the moment even better looking than the 991 Speedster as the A$$ is to fat. Thanks for the review, although its yr view, appreciated. Sorry about the roof i don’t agree its fun to do in my book same for the manual transmission its all done for a reason. For one the roof saves weight and looks good matching the lines of the humps, the manual tranny Porsche reasoned short gears will kill you as to much to handle for most. I own one in the South of Spain and had the top up ones by pickup at Porsche have fun Guys its the best looking car Porsche makes.
So gears don't look as long as some reviewers say? I see you putting third gear very fast, according to some videos you can be in second gear until you hit 137km/h. I'm so confused haha. Great video by the way.
Thanks! Gears shorten up if you plant the accelerator. Check out the bc fabs power pack video to get a better estimate.
On engernering explained he say flat shifting is not good for your transmission
I think driving like a hooligan isnt good for the transmission in general 🤣 thankfully replacing the clutch/pressure plate/master cylinder is like $5k with labor on the manual (vs $20k for a pdk replacement). What baffles me is that porsche has launch control programmed into the manual, but ive never tried it because it seems pointless and violent on a stick car
Also forgot to mention the gt3 has transmission software that allows you to no lift shift without damaging the gearbox. It pins the revs at the current position so you dont bang off the limiter
I have driven manuals all my life,and never heard of the turm flat shifting so had to do a bit of research,thank for the info👍
What a car
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Should’ve kept it!
I wish i could have afforded to keep it man! Great car, it drove beautifully and looked like the dog’s bollocks. Also since driving more 718s and GT3s in manual i actually think the 718 gearbox is my favorite despite the long gears
I really wish Porsche would make a Spyder with a hardtop.
Would be nice but porsche cares too much about weight
@@plife911 It doesn’t even have to be electric. It could be like the hardtop on the 918 Spyder, which would probably weigh less than the retractable top on the current 718 Spyder.
Ideally it would be a 2 piece removable hardtop, made of carbon fiber, aluminum, or magnesium, and it could be stored behind the seats.
I might trade my 992 for a Spyder now!
Which 992 u got?
I have a GT Silver red top, red/black interior 7 speed.
@@robertgregory1927 sick. If its a carrera s i would keep it to be honest. Thats a great car
@@plife911 Your probably right…I’m holding on to it for now!
Beans?
Alot of gas
It is NOT the Motorsports 4.0L engine … it is the Carrera bored out to 4.0L
Mine is yellow pdk
One thing I don’t understand is why you are driving it on really dull suburban roads Would like to see it being driven on the sort of traffic free twisting fun roads where it belongs
Otherwise nice review
Agree and thats the plan. But the audio would be really hard to hear due to the noise and i would be hanging on for dear life 🤣
That car is so sexy !!!👍❤️
Thank you! Agreed
Love that car, but i just saw a video where it lost to the new BMW M2 CS in a straight race, and the convertible is going to add weight, so this car isn't quite fast enough, faster than anything that i have ever driven and the looks, the looks....
Stock its not super fast I agree but with a full exhaust its actually more responsive and noticeably faster. Probably as fast as a 992 carrera s at speed. The car gets violent theres alot of power uncorked especially with headers/opf delete
@@plife911 What is a Full Exhaust then?
@@TWHISPERER at least headers plus opf delete pipes +/- the rear section (muffler)
@@plife911 Aahh, modifications. Not something i am into though.
Last in a straight race? I think you’re missing the point. You buy this go around corners not drag race. If straight line speed is your thing, there are many other choices.
I'm sorry to be late to the party and disagreeing on some points. I also own one since Feb. 2020 here in Italy. Since then i only put 2100 kms on the clock due to lockdown etc. Before this i owned a 718 2.0 which was a brilliant car for its price range and with PDK gearbox it was fairly quick (I reckon it got an engine map with 355ps and 450nm of torque). This one, considering that is about 50% more expensive, it has been pretty disappointing.
1. Engine delivery is flat and does not feel like a 420 ps engine, i was expecting more character and shove at high rpm with a rev limiter which for a n.a. engine in this class is only 8k.
2. Gear ratios especially second, are really tall for use on twisty roads and accelation as well. Gearbox fell is good but not so stellar.
And finally the roof which is utterly and stupidly complicated, involving rear boot as well. You can't even open the latter with the roof up. A Lotus for example is a much more simple and straightforward process. You release the latches on side rails and you're done.
Now i'm desperatly trying to get rid of it, the car is advertised from a few month but nobody seem to want it.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck with the sale, hopefully you can find a buyer soon. Theres not alot of cars due to covid it should help move it..
@@plife911 Thank you!
Ciao,Roberto ! Felt kind of sad reading your opinion on the Spyder, am planning on buying one used at 10.000km and price at around 104k euro. Many reviews are very positive on the manual Spyder in general.. But right now questioning my decision or maybe should be looking into a Pdk Spyder or 718GTS 4.0. Any advice from you ?
Grazie mille !
@@plife911 Hi ! Was seriously considering buying one at 7k miles, 100keuro, beautiful spec..., would you agreen on his opinion ? Seems like a serious let-down since never had the chance to drive it yet. Or what other Porsche would you suggest in this price range ? Wouldn't mind manual 😀
@@georgepotcovaru2595 spyder is a nice car for the price point especially the manual because theres not alot of comparable rwd manuals any more
if you live like in Mediterranean climate with 300+ sunny days, you wouldn't put roof up at all you will just drive in garage.. Spyder is all about roof down from my perspective, cos it is pain in ''a..''
Roof down its such an amazing experience. Have been doing it this month in the 30’s and 40’s Farenheit (under 10C). That said, i would still store it with the roof up because it gets wrinkled and there are two circular tabs the make spots on the top of the roof after a few weeks. But you are correct the top down experience is what this car is all about! 💯
I was seriously considering moving from my 718 Coupe to this, but boy...that is really loud inside!!
Yeah it is for sure. If youre sound sensitive consider this seriously
@@plife911 It also has the exact same performance stats as the base cayman I already own. That surprised me, considering this car is $45, 000.00 CA$ more than a base Cayman.
I dont think they are really comparable. Can u drive a spyder out there?
@@plife911 Out there? Not sure what you mean?
@@rboddington in your area.Dont know where you are at. Im in chicago
It's been a few years, but I could tell you how to eliminate most of the things you hate.
@@Docinaplane i didnt actually hate them . I love the spyder. Have a spyder rs now i just love the platform
@@plife911 Excellent!!
For 100 grand I would’ve just saved up a little bit more and got the base model 911 Turbo Carerra. Not quite the Turbo S but pretty damn close for a lot less money but much better than any Boxter. Kind of like an in between car between the Boxter and the Turbo S.
Its a good option. You get rear seats and a better street car. But its not NA and you cant get a 6 speed manual in any carrera (or any manual on the base). It also doesnt have the GT special sauce. But i totally get it the spyder is so expensive you can totally cross shop a 911 now
Totally wrong …. This car is nicer to look at more fun and better engine than anything 911 other than the Turbo and Turbo S of
Course … also it is more a collectable car then any carerra … FACTS
I have to drive the base 911 Carerra, and settle this for myself once and for all. I drove the GT3 around Mosport here in Ontario. I also drove my base Cayman around the same track. I can't say the GT3 was that much more impressive at all, especially when you consider the whopping price difference!!
The engine is still better placed in the 718. Porsche finally admitted this, or they would not have put a GT3 engine in the Cayman and created the 718 GT4RS.
I fear the 911 Carerra will drive like an executive luxury car, and not a sports car.
You can no-lift-shift any car...once! But seriously, if you want to no-lift-shift you should have gotten a PDK. The beauty of the 6 speed is that you have something more to do with your right foot than just try to push it through the firewall! The only complaint I have with my 718 GT4 6 speed is the PCCB brake sensitivity that makes it harder to heel-toe on gentle deceleration. Your comment about the engine sound is interesting because everyone's focus is so much on exhaust sound but listen to the inside noises in a real race car and they are dominated by mechanical sounds...which is just what you get in the GT4/Spyder...
Excellent points 👍🏻
Hate the convertible top!
It was one of the 5 “hates” indeed
@@plife911 Time for them to sculp the top into the nacells and make it automatic!
Lol. Possibly time to turn the roof into carbon and the spyder into a gt3🤟🏻
Almost like a Tesla, but not shitty.
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yanni?
U mean from live at the acropolis or yiannimize? 🤣 its Pete