Trope Talk: Tournament Arcs

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    It's an anime staple! It's… kind of controversial! Let's unpack what's up with the tournament arc and then listen to me ramble about tournaments I liked for over half the video! Yaaaaay~
    What's your favorite tournament arc, and your least favorite PART of any given tournament arc?
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  • @_TehTJ_
    @_TehTJ_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7315

    I think Trope Talk is just an excuse for Red to talk about stuff she notices in her favorite anime

    • @FreeOfFantasy
      @FreeOfFantasy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +335

      That is what Tropes are.

    • @darkarpatron
      @darkarpatron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      And the problem with that is?
      (Sorry, not actually having a go at you, just wanted to join in).

    • @aedican9719
      @aedican9719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      It's also a way to tell everyone about her favourite anime

    • @acheerfullittlenerd9000
      @acheerfullittlenerd9000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Can't think of a better reason to start an awesome series like this

    • @mrclueuin
      @mrclueuin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You're new here aren't ya? 😏😉

  • @b1923
    @b1923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4204

    "It's rough being the rival when you think you're the protagonist" may just be the best discription of Bakugo I've ever heard.

    • @Duane_Grabert
      @Duane_Grabert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Right?!

    • @WorldTree33
      @WorldTree33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      I’ve heard of one that can compete: Micheal Bay’s Wet Dream

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      He is quick to see red, but he didn't see the red flags when he already got treated like a shounen protagonist in his early childhood.
      Had he been more genre-savvy, he would have known that you don't get to be the center of attention until your teenage years, after you've been through a tough backstory like Midoriya.

    • @marsupialmole3926
      @marsupialmole3926 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      @Anna Lialine If Bakugou wasn't constantly brushed off in-universe, he wouldn't be an enjoyable character
      Nothing ruins a rival character quite like letting them get what they want. See Sasuke

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Somehow that's what makes the Last order series in Gunnm so good. All the characters get a moment to be the main character( even the giant monster with a laser cannon dick).

  • @gal749
    @gal749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2298

    For those who are less familiar with Dragon Ball, that 55-eposode-long tournament arc takes only 40 minutes of the show's timeline. True story

    • @priyankadeshpande1514
      @priyankadeshpande1514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +314

      Ahh the 5 namekian minutes

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      Personally, the first tournament was one of my favorites. There wasn't really a bad guy, except the bullies from Krillin's old temple but they get their asses kicked out of the story real quick, and ends with the twist of Goku *actually losing.* It's also where Roshi taught him the lesson of "don't become too complacent, because someday a new rival will show up to challenge you."

    • @dirt007
      @dirt007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@priyankadeshpande1514 on steroids.

    • @stalekale6087
      @stalekale6087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      In one piece dressrossa took place in 1 day but it was over 100 episodes

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dirt007
      Will do, though something tells me it won't be as darkly hilarious as the Advanced Adventure playthrough...

  • @Neutral_Tired
    @Neutral_Tired ปีที่แล้ว +243

    17:56
    "how dare you hit a girl?"
    "that girl is currently kicking my ass, I don't have much of a choice"

    • @scribesorcerer4967
      @scribesorcerer4967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      It says a lot that Bakugo, who later on explicitly mentions that overtaxing his powers hurts his arms because of the shockwaves of the explosions, willingly did a giant explosion that could have broken his arms rather than let Ururaka’s meteor attacks hit him. That is how seriously he was fighting her. Sure we can argue he was just being overly cautious because she’s friends with Midoriya but that just means he genuinely thought she could have pulled off some grade A scheme like how Izuku beat him in the mock battle.

    • @greenapple9477
      @greenapple9477 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@scribesorcerer4967 I've only seen clips from Crunchyroll and videos like this, but Bakugo to me definitely looks like the kind of guy who doesn't like to hold back.

    • @multidebbie1
      @multidebbie1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@greenapple9477Exactly! That's why I like him for it. Despite being a huge asshole, he's atleast treating everyone equally.

  • @oxybe
    @oxybe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7473

    Ash Ketchum: "Wait protagonists are supposed to win their tournament arcs?!"

    • @Comrade_Dolphin
      @Comrade_Dolphin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +512

      This comment has aged badly

    • @Gogetossj50
      @Gogetossj50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +443

      Goku: "Weird, right? Guess you learn something new every day."

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@Gogetossj50 Well, he did win most of them in the original Dragon Ball. He just lost that track record in Z.

    • @QueenMelody16
      @QueenMelody16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      @@demi-femme4821 of the three tournaments Goku was in in Dragonball, he only won the third. The first two he basically fought to a stalemate before his opponents were awarded first place. (What else would you call losing because he was a foot shorter or hitting the ground a half second faster?)

    • @jamdeluxe7456
      @jamdeluxe7456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      O O F

  • @BaronB.BlazikenBaronOfBarons
    @BaronB.BlazikenBaronOfBarons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4268

    Shounen Villain: “You Literally Died!”
    Shounen Hero: “That was a week ago dude, things change.”

    • @TheSpencermacdougall
      @TheSpencermacdougall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      "BUT I'M THE ONE WHO KILLED YOU"
      "Sure, but now we have to team up to defeat your old boss, so its time to move on from that minor inconvenience".

    • @hadeskingoftheunderworld7010
      @hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@TheSpencermacdougall well when dying is like missing the bus, the fact he killed you isn't really important

    • @FortunateSon-mo9zi
      @FortunateSon-mo9zi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 'Tis but a scratch!

    • @hadeskingoftheunderworld7010
      @hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@FortunateSon-mo9zi *me having died 15 times* shit!!!! I forgot my stamp card! I'm not going to get my free sub now!!

    • @robbieaulia6462
      @robbieaulia6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 Well by that point, I would've detonated a nuke in New York and causing a nuclear armagedon because hell, if dying doesn't matter nothing will stop me from trying to end the world because I can just resurrect myself

  • @trombonemain
    @trombonemain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3888

    Fun fact in regards to Bakugou’s voice: the Japanese VA had to take a break recently to get surgery to repair the damage constantly screaming like that to play Bakugou was causing him.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +342

      Does Bakugo think everyone else is hard of hearing or something?

    • @abigailpulliam6996
      @abigailpulliam6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +811

      @@JaelinBezel Maybe he blew out his eardrums with explosions a long time ago, and thinks he's speaking at a normal volume

    • @Karak-_-
      @Karak-_- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +505

      @@JaelinBezel There are also hypothesis that since he produces nitroglicerine, which slowers hearth rate, he has to be constantly angry so his hearth rate won't go too low.

    • @lorenzendl4712
      @lorenzendl4712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +244

      And its not just bakugo. I mean hes also playing nishinoya (haikyuu) and garfiel (re:zero) who both also have a tendency to shout a bit much

    • @catinamask5019
      @catinamask5019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      @@lorenzendl4712 and also Ghiaccio from JJBA. İ like to think that the anime industry hate the VA. So they tried ganging on him by giving him the roles of all those shouting characters.

  • @robbiestrong-morse730
    @robbiestrong-morse730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2891

    I love how mad Bakugo gets when he can tell Shoto is holding back.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      Yeah. That said, it was probably for the best that Shoto didn't use his fire on Bakugo: Bakugo's quirk is that he sweats a nitroglycerin-like substance and ignites it to create his explosions; a fire attack could've caused all his sweat to explode (that's a sentence I didn't think I'd say one day).

    • @Alloveck
      @Alloveck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It was funny alright, but also relatable at the same time.

    • @claytondavis6835
      @claytondavis6835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      I think it did wonders for his characterization. For all of his many flaws Bakugo is actually really very close to your average Shonen Hero. He’s Loud abrasive ,Talented and inventive. He doesn’t want to merely win he wants to win against their best. He shows a great deal of respect to those that earn it (Red Riot is probably his best bud and Uraka got his full respect and he got pissy at people for calling her weak girl)
      Hell surrounded by villains and given an opportunity to go full sauske Bakugo instead flipped them off and started kicking ass because he wants to be a Hero not some cut price villain.
      Really the only thing holding him back is his hang up with Deku and having some issues with communicating with the civilian population. He doesn’t have quite enough charisma to make it work as well as some do.

    • @carlosroo5460
      @carlosroo5460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So here's my doubt, if red doesn't loke tournament arcs, does that mean she doesn't like sport anime? Because Haikyuu!! is a golden fountain of charismatic characters and story arcs, and it would be a shame that she miss all that.

    • @colebazinet175
      @colebazinet175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bakugo fuckin sucks

  • @pirateking56128
    @pirateking56128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4887

    "It's rough being the rival when you think you're the protagonist."
    Oh wow that's a zinger.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      He gets better. Slightly.

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Story of my life in the prequels.

    • @ultimatehope549
      @ultimatehope549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      I thought I was the protagonist, but then I found out I was the comic relief

    • @b1923
      @b1923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Crap, noticed this just after I typed out my own reply saying the same thing. ^^; Still, always nice to see folks on the same page!

    • @WorldTree33
      @WorldTree33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ultimate Hope
      So you’re Kuwabara.

  • @simonsonian8977
    @simonsonian8977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5736

    “Midoriya’s kind words and flagrant disregard for his own wellbeing” That’s it. That’s the character.

  • @CABRALFAN27
    @CABRALFAN27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1657

    "This sounds like you need therapy- Ooh, I have an idea!"
    That's it, that's the fight.

  • @benpepin7872
    @benpepin7872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    My favorite part of my hero Academia's is when some of bakugo's classmates give him shit directly for wailing on sweet innocent Ochaco, and Bakugo manages the closest thing he gets to respectful by saying if you think she's a harmless little girl, you weren't watching the same fight I was in.

    • @torazely
      @torazely 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Honestly, I think that if Uraraka had won that fight, Bakugo would've been chill with it. He seems to be the "I don't really care about the outcome as long as you fight your hardest" types of guys

    • @cdnlightning1080
      @cdnlightning1080 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@torazely he would have been mad at himself for losing, not at Uraraka for winning

    • @scribesorcerer4967
      @scribesorcerer4967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@cdnlightning1080Yeah. Part of the reason Bakugo was so angry for winning at all was he didn’t win fairly. Shoto was holding back, Bakugo wasn’t. Bakugo is a jerk but he wants to be pushed and challenged. If he isn’t good enough to win, he doesn’t believe he should win. It’s an honorable characteristic that really foreshadows his redemption imo.

  • @lordscolipede7092
    @lordscolipede7092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4914

    "Especially since *HE KILLS HER* . Sh- she does get better."
    Never change, Shounen anime, never change.

    • @iunnostupid5720
      @iunnostupid5720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Lord Scolipede she turned me into a NEWT!

    • @son0fgrim
      @son0fgrim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Shonen anime isn't that different from western comics huh?

    • @jatziberoja04
      @jatziberoja04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@iunnostupid5720 no he did not died. it will be credence

    • @melonlord1414
      @melonlord1414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mean, it did it before it was cool, or more while it was getting cool

    • @omegraptorch3624
      @omegraptorch3624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds like Mortal Kombat

  • @JoCat
    @JoCat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1236

    I never even thought about how My Hero's mentor dynamic had that hint of meta to it, neat
    also I'm definitely gonna start saying "he kills her, but she does get better"

    • @boogababa
      @boogababa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      JoCat
      Uhh...Toby Kodachi

    • @sorufa888
      @sorufa888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh hey Storig

    • @tobistein6639
      @tobistein6639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love your videos! It makes me happy (and it makes a certain amount of sense) that you watch OSP too!

    • @supreme_king_obama1158
      @supreme_king_obama1158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey Jocat, can you say hi to jocrap for me? I’m a big fan of you both (yes I know you’re the same person), thank you for the great content!

    • @Tree_-wp5zn
      @Tree_-wp5zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@supreme_king_obama1158 what no they're not..

  • @sabianwatts8515
    @sabianwatts8515 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    "Shoto starts to go all out, but then he remembers that therapy doesn't work like that" lol that quote sent me

  • @TheLovelyVocal
    @TheLovelyVocal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +836

    I remember when my DM tried to run a tournament arc, and we played along. At first. Then I tried to steal the Maguffin that was being offered as a prize between matches.
    Which led to finding out it was a decoy and the real Maguffin was on the (evil) tournament organizer. Who we then attacked and bypassed a whole plot point by skipping right to the boss fight.

    • @Firjiwater
      @Firjiwater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Glad he didn’t just force you guys to go along with the tournament, sounds like a good dm

    • @fish-kun
      @fish-kun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's a dm

    • @goat-rf3mj
      @goat-rf3mj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@fish-kun dungeon master from dnd

    • @cappertilge8916
      @cappertilge8916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@fish-kun Dungeon Master for BDSM

    • @exyzt9877
      @exyzt9877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@fish-kun Dungeon Master. In DND, there's players who run and act out characters within the constrains of the game's world and rules, and there's a person who runs the game's world and makes up scenarios so the players have things to act out. The one in the charge of the world is referred to as the "Dungeon Master" of the campaign or DM for short.

  • @Lazycandle
    @Lazycandle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2314

    You can hear gigguk shouting in the distance

    • @MidoriMushrooms
      @MidoriMushrooms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +210

      TOOOOOOOOOURNAMENT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARC
      ngl I clicked this just to see if he was a guest star

    • @purpleblah2
      @purpleblah2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      (did somebody say TOURNAMENT ARC?)

    • @vojtechstepanek7145
      @vojtechstepanek7145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@MidoriMushrooms You mean a SERIES OF STRUCTURED FIGHTS ARC!

    • @char1194
      @char1194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Relevant username

    • @niggo.0300
      @niggo.0300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That was The first thing i tought about when i saw the video

  • @alexradke7597
    @alexradke7597 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3263

    Shounen side-character: Hey didn't you die?
    Shounen protagonist: I got better

    • @Archone666
      @Archone666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      The Bronze Age X-Men (from the 1980s): an entire team of Sounen protagonists.

    • @gabejones8112
      @gabejones8112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      *a newt?*

    • @l8_night_sleep331
      @l8_night_sleep331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Shounen protagonist: death is a social construct

    • @walrideralp6275
      @walrideralp6275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      'Tis but a flesh wound!

    • @willieoelkers5568
      @willieoelkers5568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      As Steve Rodgers put it: "You get hurt, hurt them back. You get killed, walk it off"

  • @VanguardJester
    @VanguardJester 2 ปีที่แล้ว +495

    "equal rights equal fights!"
    -bakugo, equality connoisseur

    • @loadeddice4696
      @loadeddice4696 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      You know that if Uraraka had pulled out a win, Bakugo would have accepted it with better grace than he did his win over Todoroki.
      Like "Yeah, she got me, that meteor shower move was pretty sick huh?"

    • @limarien6405
      @limarien6405 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@loadeddice4696 yeah, one of my favorite parts was when he said "I definitely wouldn't call that girl frail"

    • @CharliMorganMusic
      @CharliMorganMusic ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, I really liked him in the fight. He showed true respect for Uraraka. Much more than anybody else ever did.

    • @alecchristiaen4856
      @alecchristiaen4856 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Katsuki Bakugo, feminist ally.

    • @jonathankent1517
      @jonathankent1517 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Bakugo: Everyone, regardless of gender, age, race or creed, is equally inferior to me.

  • @julianav.4031
    @julianav.4031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    "A lingerie model from hell"
    Loved how sasly acurate this is for all animes, specially shounen 🤣

  • @jessicatatum7769
    @jessicatatum7769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2679

    "...designed to appeal to young men and also me." (20 something woman) I feel you girl

    • @redgeoblaze3752
      @redgeoblaze3752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      I feel you too, but in the opposite way.
      I'm a 20 year old man, but I love some cheesy romance anime, or an adorable shoujo show.

    • @invisiblefan2387
      @invisiblefan2387 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Hey it’s okay! Don’t feel alone! Things can appeal to anybody!

    • @TomKellyXY
      @TomKellyXY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They can but shonen means young boys so she’s not wrong...

    • @mrhalfwit972
      @mrhalfwit972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@redgeoblaze3752 "I feel you. but in the opposite way. I'm a 20 year old ma-" *police sirens*

    • @AhavaMath
      @AhavaMath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Me too. Women like them too!

  • @kingfierysaber3654
    @kingfierysaber3654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2079

    17:40 also, another thing I think is important is that when Bakugo 's friends confront him for "going all out on a trail little girl" Bakugo said something along the lines of " what about her was frail? " which I believe is a great character subversion

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +368

      Yeah, it is quite interessting how he, who has little regard for anyone else is in that scene almost the only one respecting her and in general a lot more considering towards her than most. Of cause he developes his awesome friendship with Kirishima, but that only worked because he could neither hurt him physicly not psychologicly otherwise he would have fucked that one up to. Uraraka is a very special snowflake in that regard and I like it. Solelyher association with Midorya should have been a reason to antagonise her, but Katsuki treats her with his special brand of respect nevertheless.

    • @myStitch11
      @myStitch11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +374

      Also an additional nice touch is shown earlier on that he genuinely doesn’t remember any of his classmates names nor powers in the Calvary battle. When the brackets were put up he doesn’t even remember Uraraka is even in his class. The only thing noteworthy in his head is “Deku’s friend.” After the battle she has made such an impression on him that he makes note to remember her name from then on.

    • @Khookies-lp2lu
      @Khookies-lp2lu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@myStitch11 I doubt that the respect was born at that battle, as he shouts out her name after Uraraka's meteor shower
      I think he already had prior respect to her, which only shined through during the battle

    • @balabanasireti
      @balabanasireti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Khookies-lp2lu Nah.

    • @Khookies-lp2lu
      @Khookies-lp2lu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@balabanasireti we have to remember that for Bakugo to even know their name, there is something extra already
      There is prior respect, or at least he respects her more than others, even if by a teeny tiny bit

  • @aryankala7858
    @aryankala7858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    i just loved that she used a team four star video: either loosen your moral code or stop hinging the fate of the world on death matches

  • @tjdraws4888
    @tjdraws4888 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    “Man I hope it stays good” - Famous last words 😭

    • @FedoraKirb
      @FedoraKirb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Honestly, it’s not even bad, it’s just… really ok now. It’s got a lot going for it but also some disappointing problems that it avoided earlier in its run.

    • @arandomguy656
      @arandomguy656 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@FedoraKirb yeah, i mean season 6 was awesome

    • @estebanatachaoarguedas6321
      @estebanatachaoarguedas6321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And out of nowhere, there you got a badly handled war arc were the premise is in conflict with the series' tone. Can't even sell the tragedy of the previous "massacre" when that was just a bunch of fill... side characters dying off-camera.
      At least blond Sasuke's death was funny while it lasted.

    • @Spyr0Gaming
      @Spyr0Gaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Can't bellieve she managed to fit a trope talk on foreshadowing in this video.

  • @alexl.1643
    @alexl.1643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1392

    Red: this is mostly an anime trope
    Me: Harry Potter and the Golbet of Fire is my favorite anime

    • @Ruminations09
      @Ruminations09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      I get that this is a joke, but the tri-wizard tournament doesn't really follow the tournament arc formula in any conceivable way

    • @WakkaMadeInYevon
      @WakkaMadeInYevon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      Ancient gladiatorial combat is my favorite anime

    • @lmbusiness5300
      @lmbusiness5300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh my god

    • @prawnchips9461
      @prawnchips9461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Welp, the movie could be seen as Harry character development arc, Ron and Hermione subplot development arc, and Cedric Diggory's character arc at the same time (although he was killed at the end)
      You know what? Actually, if compared with anime tropes, The Goblet of Fire is the filler arc where the main and side characters finally get their character development that ended with a reveal that the antagonist side is also getting their development that snaps back the protagonists from their less stressful filler arc (the tournament arc in this case) back to the reality that the true antagonist is back to ruin their day.

    • @filipevasconcelos4409
      @filipevasconcelos4409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ruminations09 but it is tho

  • @Bluey306
    @Bluey306 5 ปีที่แล้ว +806

    3:48 "If the manga [...] is running out of content." So what you're saying is...Game of Thrones could've had a tournament arc.

    • @zusfrankenstein8561
      @zusfrankenstein8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Isn't that what Cleganebowl was?

    • @rogerogue7226
      @rogerogue7226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It didn't?
      huh.

    • @marlene2723
      @marlene2723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      *should’ve

    • @jor4114
      @jor4114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@zusfrankenstein8561 It's not a tournament arc if it's a single personal battle between two sworn enemies. Then you call it a final showdown.

    • @just-trying-my-best-everyday
      @just-trying-my-best-everyday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would have one hundred percent dragged me into that show.

  • @wjzav1971
    @wjzav1971 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I always love it when the antagonist in a story is personally offended that the protagonist doesn't really take him seriously or is like "Sorry, but I have better things to do right now" and the antagonist is mad that he isn't fought like a proper villain.

    • @coltonwilliams4153
      @coltonwilliams4153 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Madara: You’re finally here, Hashirama!!!🤩
      Hashirama: Shut up, Madara, I’m busy! I’ll deal with you later!
      Madara:🥺

  • @Jordan_The_Warden
    @Jordan_The_Warden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    I'd like to say that Ninjago does an incredible tournament arc. There are many protagonists that lose and get their powers stolen and many plot twists. For example, the main protagonist loses. This allows the antagonist to start a spell that transforms his cult into snakes. It also has a good explanation as to why the protagonists don't cheat. I highly reccoment it for anyone who's bored over a weekend!

    • @theoxyscape7057
      @theoxyscape7057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Ninjago's tournament arc was awesome, it was when I was most invested in the show.

    • @spotlightanimation6719
      @spotlightanimation6719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Don't forget the whole Zane thing. Not gonna spoil anything though.

    • @walnutalpaca8608
      @walnutalpaca8608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      GOD I LOVED THAT SHOW

    • @oricalu448
      @oricalu448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I'm so glad people remember ninjago. Tournament of elements was so cool. I think Skybound is probably my favourite season of that show tho.

    • @victoriawynston9221
      @victoriawynston9221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Tbh Ninjago is the only “shounen” i care about

  • @nathanielandre2568
    @nathanielandre2568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1690

    "I mean, the tournament can't just be our heroes and one main bad guy."
    *glances nervously at Cell*

    • @couergarnet
      @couergarnet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      tbh cell games wasn't really a typical tournament.

    • @SarahAbramova
      @SarahAbramova 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      It was more like "I'm proving I'm too strong for anyone to beat and I want to beat people up."

    • @jonathanfranco8547
      @jonathanfranco8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      They called them the Cell Games for a reason, it wasn't a traditional tournament by any means, it was more like the guy who sets up a stage in the middle of town and says: "Who thinks they can bet me?"

    • @wickederebus
      @wickederebus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Anime really needs more King of the Hill or Highlander tournament arcs

    • @ignaeon
      @ignaeon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@wickederebus Agreed, more propane and scotsmen

  • @hibak_
    @hibak_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1017

    "So if I beat you then i'm fulling my dad's dream....but wrong"
    "This sounds like you need therapy"

    • @skyblade7438
      @skyblade7438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      It's shonen anime, *everyone* needs therapy.

    • @hibak_
      @hibak_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Skyblade 743 damn everything the protagonist go through to make the viewers entertained.....

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      "Ooo I have an idea!"

    • @EpsilonRosePersonal
      @EpsilonRosePersonal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I can't help but hear that in Steven Universe's voice.

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@EpsilonRosePersonal Well, it's a very Steven thing to say.

  • @gameinsane4718
    @gameinsane4718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Rabid Bakugo tied to the 1st place podium is beyond priceless every time it’s brought up

  • @Blackjack1317
    @Blackjack1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    The best turnament is in the Blind Bandit episode of The Last Airbender. Its verry short but also very effective. We see The Boulder take out every competitor within seconds but the moment Toph shows up, he gets obliberated. This is by far the most effective introduction of a character's power I have ever seen. The fact that this little girl took out the best fighter in the entire arena with ease, makes her super badass right from the start.

    • @andrewshiinoki4844
      @andrewshiinoki4844 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Okay yes. But I don't really feel that counts as a tournament arc. It is more like a montage.

    • @scribesorcerer4967
      @scribesorcerer4967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      “THE BOULDER IS CONFLICTED”

  • @catboyuwu5361
    @catboyuwu5361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1674

    Gigguk enters the room: DID SOMEONE MENTION A TOUUUURNIMENT AAAAAAARC??!!

    • @theplaneteater
      @theplaneteater 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Just scrolled down to find this comment, strangely is not the top one.

    • @MitchellTF
      @MitchellTF 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To be fair, Okashido's comment is REALLY good.

    • @Falxifer95
      @Falxifer95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Surprise; most of them suck!

    • @alchemicpunk1509
      @alchemicpunk1509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *Gigguk enters any room at all

    • @techwizpc4484
      @techwizpc4484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SPOILER: Dragon ball super top has no real consequence. They all live in the end. Total fail right there.

  • @TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS
    @TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1519

    17:38
    "What part about that girl was weak?" -Bakugo
    I think this scene is the closest Bakugo got to genuinely complimenting and respecting someone other than himself which kinda says a HELL of a lot about Uraraka.
    In all seriousness, when even Bakugo acknowledges you're good, you know you're impressive.
    This is the same guy who just calls his friends idiots and flagrantly insults them when they're trying to be friendly with him, he doesn't do nice so having this kinda-compliment is a pretty big deal as far as what he says is concerned.

    • @MystFox1314
      @MystFox1314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah

    • @TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS
      @TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @Alvi Syahri Honestly, probably not.

    • @phoenixfire4717
      @phoenixfire4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @Alvi Syahri glad I wasn't the only who noticed that he went from a rude nickname/ not knowing her name to calling her out by name. And all it took was dropping a meteor shower on him

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yeah, je later gets better with Kirishima, but only because he neither could hurt him physicly not mentaly and with time he melowed out, nur otherwise that one too would have been pretty ugly abusiv, Uraraka is realy the only one he acts his way of decent around

    • @VivaLaDnDLogs
      @VivaLaDnDLogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And the same guy who screams at plaque when he brushes his teeth.

  • @azumarill964
    @azumarill964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    The best tournament arc i’ve seen is Lego Ninjago Season 4 “The tournament of the elements”. It introduces a bunch of new cool characters, the eliminated characters are not sitting ducks, and it has many interesting plotlines, including a conspiration that culminates in the best season finale of the series.
    I know many people have blind nostalgia for Ninjago, but it holds up, and it is really underrated ( Especially season 4)

    • @tortis6342
      @tortis6342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      man I really need to watch that again. I remember loving it as a kid.

    • @tortis6342
      @tortis6342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Oblivi0usM I remember seing it on netflix awhile back.

    • @davedog0984
      @davedog0984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Dude I've been waiting for someone to mention this show! It probably has something from every trope mentioned so far

    • @abbiebagnell1398
      @abbiebagnell1398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Oblivi0usM I think it depends on where you live but it's on Netflix, I live in the UK so like I said it depends but you can watch it there

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I made a video breaking down my thoughts on the Tournament of Elements, along with a bunch of other tournament arcs I really like. Short version:
      Love the story and the structure, Chen is the best villain in the series to date, the action kinda suffers which keeps it pretty low on the list, Skylor best girl.

  • @sakuradragon6735
    @sakuradragon6735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    I think MHA did their tournament arc well (the sports festival). You'd expect Deku to win because hes the protagonist and find a way to channel his power, which he kinda does. However, he deliberately looses to Todoroki because he wants his friend to get over his daddy issues and use his fire powers. I wrote this mid-episodes and I'm just realizing she just started talking about it

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Deku doesn't deliberately lose; he just forced Todoroki to actually use all of his power in the fight. Deku still wanted to win.

    • @mateoremedi4703
      @mateoremedi4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bad part of that is bakugo

    • @djantouahmed7319
      @djantouahmed7319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mateoremedi4703 for you apparently.

    • @mateoremedi4703
      @mateoremedi4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djantouahmed7319 bro,while deku and todorki have development, while ochaco tries to win with her own strategy,while iida discover the trágic Destiny of his brother,bakugo is just "wuah i want to win,wuah i have an inferiority complex"

    • @FedoraKirb
      @FedoraKirb ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mateoremedi4703 I don’t like Bakugo either (easily one of my least favorite characters in anything), but I’m not going to deny that there is… well I wouldn’t call it “growth,” but it is an exploration into his character. I think. I guess.

  • @artemiswolf4508
    @artemiswolf4508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +871

    Midoriya: I think you need therapy...
    Midoriya: 🤔
    Midoriya: 😃
    ...
    🏥 🚑🚑🚑

    • @cmsully1
      @cmsully1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      ... You're not wrong.

    • @iwillbecomeimmortalordietr8506
      @iwillbecomeimmortalordietr8506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You got me, haha

    • @gretablackwell495
      @gretablackwell495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Regular battle therapy anime scene: “I’L BREAK ALL OF YOUR BONES SO YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL”
      Midoriya: “I’L BREAK ALL OF _MY_ BONES SO YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL”

    • @catbot3116
      @catbot3116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lol

    • @ianbunch1583
      @ianbunch1583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Villain: "I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!"
      Deku: *[INITIATING SELF-DESTRUCT SEQUENCE]*

  • @AnimeAngel88
    @AnimeAngel88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1407

    16:25
    To answer your question Red, cause I met Bakugo's VA at a con recently, he does a lot of shouting on Friday and has to take the weekend to recover his voice.

    • @blackvial
      @blackvial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      When he gets old I doubt he will be able to talk

    • @SarahAbramova
      @SarahAbramova 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Wow. I knew he did a bunch of screaming but damn.

    • @zusfrankenstein8561
      @zusfrankenstein8561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      Yeah, the Japanese voice actor has it a lot worse, since a lot of his other roles also involve shouting inordinate amounts. He actually announced he's going to take a month off from voice acting to recover from throat surgery just yesterday.

    • @asiawhite4770
      @asiawhite4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@zusfrankenstein8561 Damn that's dedication I hope he recovers well

    • @demonguysayshi2666
      @demonguysayshi2666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Zus Frankenstein
      Those voice actors really need to learn the art of heavy metal vocals. For one, they'll be able to yell and scream without trashing their vocal cords

  • @gerstein03
    @gerstein03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Wanna know a great tournament arc? Ninjago: Tournament of Elements!
    It introduces a bunch of fun side characters like Skylor and Karlof, provides character growth for pretty much everyone (Jay and Cole's rivalry, Kai's resentment that he wasn't the Green Ninja, Garmadon acting as team Sensei for a season, ect), and the reasoning for the ninja playing along despite knowing that the villain Chen wants to steal everyone's powers makes total sense. Chen has Zane and they wanna rescue him. But they don't just play Chen's game. They try to form an alliance between the contestants but due to a traitor in their midst, Skylor, who turns hero and love interest for Kai, the contestants are bested and they all have their powers stolen. Only through Kai's strategic thinking are they able to get their powers back and stop Chen. But it doesn't end there. The rest of the season focuses on trying to find him and when he uses Skylor, who's his daughter by the way, to finish his plans, they have to stop him, which Garmadon sacrifices himself to do. Great tournament arc, great season

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I made a video breaking down my thoughts on the Tournament of Elements, along with a bunch of other tournament arcs I really like. Short version:
      Love the story and the structure, Chen is the best villain in the series to date, the action kinda suffers which keeps it pretty low on the list, Skylor best girl.

    • @samkathryn4825
      @samkathryn4825 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolutely agree! Ninjago is so good! It’s tournament is really well-written. My only complaint is they abandon the tournament near the end in that forest episode. I would’ve liked to see them take it further to make their eventual loss more devastating.

    • @fumkioyuki8457
      @fumkioyuki8457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heck yeah

    • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
      @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samkathryn4825 Honestly, I feel like abandoning the tournament structure towards the end only benefited the season. Logically the tournament was only a farce by Chen to get all the Elemental Masters in the same area and divide them so they were weak enough to steal piers from individually. He had no need for it when he was now strong enough to just take all the elemental powers.
      By eliminating the tournament, the stakes become that much higher. Additionally, tournament arc can become too predictable but by eliminating it, the viewer had no idea what was going to happen next and that increases the tension, surprise, and audience engagement.
      Red talks about the advantages and disadvantages of a tournament arc in this I think Ninjago struck the perfect balance. It took all the advantages of a tournament arc but abandoned that structure before the disadvantages of the trope reared their ugly heads.

  • @tk-zay5073
    @tk-zay5073 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Gotta say that Yusuke’s character arc is slightly more complex in the dark tournament. He still has to learn how to deal with the responsibility of being a protector figure, and how to open up to people. He takes in that lesson from Genkai that he’s not a one man show, that no power, nothing even, is worth losing those you love or yourself. Basically, that it’s okay to care, and show it. I’d say it’s almost like prep for the self reflection Yusuke has at the beginning of the three kings arc.

  • @markchang2964
    @markchang2964 5 ปีที่แล้ว +822

    12:55 fakes his own death to powerup his friend. True loyalty

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      **guts bursting out of chest**
      **dies**
      [later]
      Just kiddin' - I'm actually fine.

    • @davetorres1893
      @davetorres1893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      To be fair, at least in the dub Togoro, (spelling check sorry) says he also missed lethal damage when he realized what the goal was. He knew the friendship trope and aided it.

    • @13gondolla37
      @13gondolla37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I like that Kurama and Kuwabara do this to yusuke twice but the second time is just to fuck with him.

    • @Tenshi6Tantou6Rei
      @Tenshi6Tantou6Rei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      to be fair, Kuwabara is well within his rights to since Yusuke ACTUALLY died and then reappeared to smooch him in his dreams

    • @jakefitzsimmons1213
      @jakefitzsimmons1213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Boozer did that in days gone

  • @calebhale9865
    @calebhale9865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    10:02 "Did you die?"
    "Sadly, yes. But I lived!"

    • @WrensthavAviovus
      @WrensthavAviovus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      "And that was just one of the many ways I tragically died."
      Baron Muchausen

    • @clockworkpotato9892
      @clockworkpotato9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      FIDEL CASTRO INTENSIFIES

    • @donovanroundtree524
      @donovanroundtree524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *SAYS EVERY MARVEL&D.C HERO AND/OR VILLAIN EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

    • @canoonx1
      @canoonx1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Buck(Diesel Weasel) the greatest anime mc!

    • @pileofsocks8287
      @pileofsocks8287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Didn't you die tho"
      "Yesn't"

  • @Fluffkitscripts
    @Fluffkitscripts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I like how ninjago handled this trope. The MCs participated in the tournament mostly because that was the best way to get to the bottom of the mystery, and the tournament derails to make way for plot progression at the logical time. Instead of the plot being subsumed by the tournament, the tournament only exists as long as it’s relevant to the plot. The tournament also acts as a countdown, because they drop evidence that the tournament and the way it progresses is an integral part of the villain’s plan, so if the heroes can’t figure it out and stop the tournament in time things could go very wrong.

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (no I am not a bot)
      I made a video breaking down my thoughts on the Tournament of Elements, along with a bunch of other tournament arcs I really like. Short version:
      Love the story and the structure, Chen is the best villain in the series to date, the action kinda suffers which keeps it pretty low on the list, Skylor best girl.

  • @mateoremedi4703
    @mateoremedi4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    To me ,the Best thing about tournamemts is when the protagonists can lose withouth dying because that more tense, because we know they won't die,but they losing the tournamemts is something that could happen

    • @LucasRLAlves
      @LucasRLAlves ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And that's basically the entire appeal of sports anime. Tournament arcs, but the protagonists have a real chance of losing because it does equal death and the opponents can still stick around after a game and not neceserally become allies/friends and getting a downgrade in power

  • @mutantmaster1
    @mutantmaster1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    *Red uses DBZ Abridged clip*
    I see you're a woman of culture too

    • @aerothelich2023
      @aerothelich2023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yes i had the same thought XD This is so amazing

    • @darksaiyan9103
      @darksaiyan9103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I squealed a little bit XD

    • @tno1990
      @tno1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You are not dealing with the average woman of cultre anymore!
      Also the pacific rim clips were fun :)

    • @Phantasmagora
      @Phantasmagora 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched all the way to gokus death and I was unhappy at losing my precious little retardo, Goku will forever be in my heart TwT and from what I could hear(been a long time since I've seen DBZ abridged) I think trunks said "Either save the world or stop hinting it on death matches!!" I may be wrong -w-

    • @Smeghead76
      @Smeghead76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Phantasmagora More accurately, it's "Either loosen your moral code, or stop hinging the fate of the world on *DEATH MATCHES!"*

  • @ShadowsOfEssence
    @ShadowsOfEssence 5 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    I remember sitting mouth agape when Deku was knocked out of the tournament. I was shocked. Got my kids watching the show just to get thier reactions. Priceless seeing a 10 old shout, "The main guy can't lose!"

    • @jonsnor4313
      @jonsnor4313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      But he won, by learning to lilit his power to a lesser self destructive degree. And was the moral victor by saving todoriko. He was the winner, in life. Both were.

    • @arshana4081
      @arshana4081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I watch pokemon when young, and i remember when Ash lost his Jotho league. That lost is crushing me, since im very hyped for Ash to finally win a league (that take him so many episode to reach)

    • @maadtee6281
      @maadtee6281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arshana4081 but Ash has never won a country league just two tournament

    • @TheAfroClub
      @TheAfroClub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      infernovoid Bakugo NEEDED Best Jeanist as a mentor. One of his biggest problems (as a hero, anyway) is that he doesn’t know how to interact properly with civilians or the public. IDK how far along you are in the anime, but the two biggest problems/setbacks he experiences in season 3 happen as a direct consequence of his terrible personality. He really should have taken that internship more seriously.

    • @akridbikorne2755
      @akridbikorne2755 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @infernovoid
      Yeah the protagonist losing is very common troupe
      I mean almost every anime does it. It is a very good way to give a power up and that motive to your characters.

  • @ak73372
    @ak73372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    “He kills her. Don’t worry she gets better.” Has the Sam same energy as “she turned me into a newt! ..... I got better.”

    • @torazely
      @torazely 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also known as
      "Did you die?"
      "Sadly, yes... but I LIVED!"

  • @WhispersDaes
    @WhispersDaes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Rewatching a lot of the older trope talks. Can I just say, Red, your background music choice is *perfect*?
    It sets an emotional tone for the episode while still being very much in the background; not too loud to give away the emotional theme you're going for, but just loud enough and pervasive to keep it going. Nice!

  • @MerelChan
    @MerelChan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +769

    Gigguk be like: TOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUURNEMEEEEEEEEEEENT ARC!!!!
    Intro...
    Gigguk:
    Anime is trash,and so am i.

    • @redhood5264
      @redhood5264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Seriously I would pay for a collab between those two. Red and Gigguk I dont think it would be funny just really interesting

    • @PerverseMilk
      @PerverseMilk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cue easy lover by phil collins

    • @stormcloudsabound
      @stormcloudsabound 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      An ark is like Noah's Ark, it's a vehicle (often a ship) that carries passengers. An arc is a curved shape or line, or a trajectory for a character or plot in a piece of media.

    • @WindWalker666
      @WindWalker666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@redhood5264 Yeah, upping this idea, because OMG!! They have such disparate styles, but they could make beautiful analytical music together!!

    • @ghostofthecommentsection
      @ghostofthecommentsection 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arc* bruh it was in the title

  • @danimation210
    @danimation210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1233

    You should ABSOLUTELY do a Trope Talk on Combat Therapy

    • @kevinboyle3104
      @kevinboyle3104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Carolyn Tellier that’s something me and my brothers used to do

    • @prawnchips9461
      @prawnchips9461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      When i see combat therapy, i quickly remembered a lot of naruto fight scenes where one of the character or maybe both characters starts monologuing about their problems that triggers flashback episode(s) and finally closed with the characters releasing their pent up emotions by screaming their rival's name while unleashing their strongest punch/jutsu/tricks to each other.
      If you think about it: monologue about the problem, flashbacks, and finally release the emotional burden, is more or less what you do in therapy session.

    • @AllThatJay
      @AllThatJay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh Shaman King is good for that!

    • @beetle7710
      @beetle7710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i am 200% on bord with this

    • @knweeb514
      @knweeb514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely I’d love to see this

  • @U.Inferno
    @U.Inferno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think my favorite part about the MHA Deku vs Todoroki is that there's the whole metaphor going on with Deku literally breaking his fucking bones just to keep up with everyone and meanwhile Todoroki is trying to win by coasting because of personal issues. Since Deku was someone who obtained his power by general happenstance, seeing someone sully themselves in that matter would probably be infuriating. Of course it's not really depicted as anger, but you can see him be frustrated. If he was going to lose, it wasn't going to be in a half assed manner, and if he can help out someone in addition, bonus points

  • @RandallStephens397
    @RandallStephens397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Tournament Arc: babby's first threat progression: a simplified and explicitly structured series of encounters with opponents of increasing levels of skill and determination to win. An easy to execute and endlessly adaptable storytelling format for budding manga artists and writers to train their skills on.

  • @IdiotinGlans
    @IdiotinGlans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +621

    Anime: Season-long tournament arc
    WWE: THE TOURNAMENT NEVER ENDS!

    • @endplanets
      @endplanets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Reminds me of TNA back in the day. They would fight... for no reason but it was still important guys. When they finally did have a tournament I could actually grasp the impact of a win / loss.

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah, there were just a shitload of new tournaments that would climax at the PPV events. Wanna see how this male soap opera gets resolved? Well, all you have to do is pay 20-40 dollars to temporarily unlock that channel with the scrambled footage. Or you "could" wait until the episode after the event where the wrestlers monologue and expo dump/gloat like crazy. Or you could spend even more money to watch it in person. The circus is in town!

    • @jazzmaster909
      @jazzmaster909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darwinxavier3516 nahh i like to watch REAL fighting like Avengers and John Wick, better than fake WWE...

    • @heyllo1337
      @heyllo1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      STEEL CAGE DEATH MATCH

    • @leonmayne797
      @leonmayne797 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WWE is the most over the top shounen anime ever.

  • @cozetteweng2706
    @cozetteweng2706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    “...because he kills her!
    She gets better though...”

  • @emeraldwolf3494
    @emeraldwolf3494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Black Clover’s tournament arc is great, especially since it focuses and giving us great team matches we wouldn’t see otherwise. Plus there was Finral vs Langris and the Black Bulls to the rescue scene which is iconic af.

  • @SirAsdf
    @SirAsdf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think this is a case that DragonBall (the original, without any letter after the title) does really well.
    The original DragonBall has three World Tournament Arcs, and they each serve an important purpose.
    The first one marks the point of transition for the series away from a purely comedy series about a boy with a monkey tail and into a more action oriented show. Also, this is the first time Goku has ever had to actually try in a fight before, with his loss to Roshi in the finals ingraining his want to always get stronger within him.
    The second tournament has three major purposes, it shows us that while Goku has gotten a lot stronger, he's not quite "the strongest" yet. It introduces Tien and provides an excellent character arc for him. And it leads directly into the series darkest arc to that point, The King Piccolo Arc.
    Finally, the last tournament allows some of the side characters to wrap up their plotlines (and relevance to the franchise), introduces one of the franchise's most important characters in Piccolo Jr and lets Goku finally achieve his goal of being "The Strongest Under the Heavens." marking the end of the original DragonBall and providing a nice transition into his further adventures in Z.
    Each arc basically serves as a benchmark for us to see what new tricks our characters have learned and as a launching pad into the series' next stage

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +599

    “It’s tough being the rival when you think you’re the protagonist.”
    Swap “rival” out for “a normal person” and you’ve got a *lot* of people’s lives.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i don't think that most people think that they are the protagonist by mabey a protagonist

    • @thrownstair
      @thrownstair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Everyone is the protagonist of their own story. But also the price of entry to be a protagonist in the real world is to be very, very rich.

    • @royalhydra9790
      @royalhydra9790 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thrownstair or ungodly lucky

  • @cale0176
    @cale0176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    "... by this tiny old lady voiced by Frieza."
    My childhood came rushing back.

    • @MrMaradok
      @MrMaradok 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's times like this, when I realize that two caracters are voiced by the same actor, that an odd question pops up;
      In shows that feature "True Names," could that Name be the name of the actor? Then, if so, would that be the case for any of the other caracters that actor voiced?
      Though that imples that half the worlds True Name would be Steve Bloom. 😜

    • @fnumbuh
      @fnumbuh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Christian Gillespie I thought frieza was a woman until his final form

    • @tiagodarkpeasant
      @tiagodarkpeasant 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fnumbuh just listen to the Brasilian version th-cam.com/video/s6242lPkcew/w-d-xo.html, his voice is the only one we agree is better in japanese

    • @just_xanny2777
      @just_xanny2777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You thought he was a woman in his second form?

    • @elijahdavila3684
      @elijahdavila3684 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@just_xanny2777 I always thought Frieza sounded like an old lady when I was a kid so I always assumed he was a lady.

  • @bon7029
    @bon7029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "A tournament can't just be a bunch of heroes and one main bad guy."
    Cell: EXCUSE YOU?

  • @lucatan6985
    @lucatan6985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I loved the tournament in Ninjago Season 4. It took enough episodes to flesh out, but didn't eat up the entire season, and it showed relatively early that despite high stakes, failure narratively can still happen, as we see with Cole being taken out of the tournament after having to fight Jay (which is also a conclusion to both their arcs at the time, which I think is beautiful)
    Also it doesn't get boring, because 1. Every fight is different, 2. Both the Ninja and Chen cheat, and 3. There's a bunch of Subplots (The senseis and mishako, Nya and Dareth, Cole, Karlof and Zane and trying to find Chen's spy)

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a video breaking down my thoughts on the Tournament of Elements, along with a bunch of other tournament arcs I really like. Short version:
      Love the story and the structure, Chen is the best villain in the series to date, the action kinda suffers which keeps it pretty low on the list, Skylor best girl.

  • @DavidGAbril
    @DavidGAbril 5 ปีที่แล้ว +643

    Well, I was going to put the obligatory... (Ahem)
    TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURNAMEEEEEEEEEENT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARC!!!
    But then the opening of the video was... Yikes! lol

    • @ryoushi4339
      @ryoushi4339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I see a gigguk reference and i like hehe

    • @l.o.b.2433
      @l.o.b.2433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      STRUCTURED SERIES OF INDIVIDUAL FIGHTS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARC!

    • @kanvaros4451
      @kanvaros4451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Anime is trash and so am I ! But you know what isn’t trash TOOOOOOOOOOOUIUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRNAMENTTTTTTTTTTTT
      AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRCCCCCCCC

    • @akilw.3360
      @akilw.3360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ah, (wo)men of culture I see.

    • @razorflossrazor2937
      @razorflossrazor2937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was my first thought to and I'm glad someone thought of it to

  • @joshuaobrien4738
    @joshuaobrien4738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +683

    I bloody lost it at:
    "Sounds like you need therapy. OH I have an idea" XD

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So Naruto in a nutshell.

    • @alucard347
      @alucard347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@nousername191
      Naruto: "Sasuke, I'll help you by chasing after you like a madman and breaking all your bones!"
      Sasuke: "fuck off".
      Midoriya: "Todoroki, I'll help you be giving you some therapy, a pep talk, and by breaking all of my bones!"
      Todoroki: "
      yes please!"

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alucard347 Naruto: "Sasuke, I'll help you by chasing after you like a madman and breaking all your bones!"
      I mean he SAID that but I'm pretty sure Sasuke broke a LOT more of his bones (and pierced his lungs) during their first Valley of the End fight and whiffed the final hit that could have knocked Sasuke out and prevent him from leaving.
      Honestly, I'm still too burnt out by Naruto to engage in serious debates about it.

    • @project4061
      @project4061 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Red wasn't going so fast on this topic, I would be right there with you.

    • @alucard347
      @alucard347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nousername191 yeah, you are right, but the joke still remain accurate enough.

  • @briannawhite9307
    @briannawhite9307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I just want to point out that this is the video that got me to watch both My Hero Academia and Yu Yu Hakusho (both are amazing btw)

  • @sebastianthegoat4265
    @sebastianthegoat4265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Ninjago explored this option, and it was actually a surprise when it looked like the villain had won. sure it was temporary, but it was a surprise nonetheless.

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made a video breaking down my thoughts on the Tournament of Elements, along with a bunch of other tournament arcs I really like. Short version:
      Love the story and the structure, Chen is the best villain in the series to date, the action kinda suffers which keeps it pretty low on the list, Skylor best girl.

  • @notmyusername1234
    @notmyusername1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    The moment ''especially since he kills her. She...she does get better'' just instantly made me think of Monty Python's The Holy Grail. I'm having nostalgia flashbacks

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm pretty sure that was the point. It's not exactly an obscure reference.

    • @zephyrian1006
      @zephyrian1006 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *'TIS JUST A SCRATCH!'*

    • @macoy3943
      @macoy3943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      “She turned me into a newt”
      “You don’t look like a newt”
      “Well, I got better”
      Forgive me if I misquoted

    • @Carbon2861996
      @Carbon2861996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not quite dead, sir.

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    *_Top 10 Anime Tournament Arcs_*
    *Number 1:* CAN WE JUST SETTLE THIS OVER A PINT?

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Accidentally starts a drinking contest tournament.

    • @electricbluetiramisu3713
      @electricbluetiramisu3713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mr. Friendship the one with the best soundtrack *blasts Joan Jett*

    • @ultimatepredatorx2937
      @ultimatepredatorx2937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Bluecho4 beerfest

    • @ruipcc1
      @ruipcc1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *queue bad reputation*

    • @caridadchang7895
      @caridadchang7895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bluecho4 I can think of plenty of shows where that battle would be ridiculous, including Naruto and Fairy Tail

  • @chalkish4855
    @chalkish4855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    My favourite Ninjago arc was the tournament arc, absolutely stellar

  • @garlicwizard7728
    @garlicwizard7728 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Man I hope it stays good"
    me too kid, me too

  • @gafeleon9032
    @gafeleon9032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    Man, that Uraraka v Bakugo fight was awesome, I mean, she still didn't have a chance to the powerhouse that is Bakugo, but still, damn...

    • @Mandemon1990
      @Mandemon1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      And unlike in many other shounen series, the rival doesn't go "You're weakling, lol". Bakugou very much recognizes how strong Uraka is and how much effort she put into the fight. He might have more respect for her than Shouto at the end of the tournament, since Shouto held back and let him win, while Uraka came at him with everything she got.

    • @MelvaCross
      @MelvaCross 5 ปีที่แล้ว +202

      @@Mandemon1990 The best thing is that Bakugou almost NEVER addresses people by their name. His classmates get insulting nicknames and the only people he calls by name are the people he truly acknowledges. And that's only his pal Kirishima and his idol All-Might.
      But at the end of the fight against Uraraka, he calls her by her actual name. Which is basically Bakugou saying "I accept you as an equal on the battlefield".
      He knew that he would lose if she only touches him. She came close twice and almost wiped him out without relying on the ring-out. If he didn't have great reactions AND massive firepower, the fight would not have ended in his favour. He respected her abilities before and during the fight. But he showed his respect for HER at the end of the fight by calling her "Uraraka".
      By far my favourite fight because Uraraka won Bakugou's respect which is a more difficult thing to obtain than a victory against him.

    • @rowdyrobgaming8726
      @rowdyrobgaming8726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      MelvaCross bakugo is my favorite character and this is definitely one of his best character moments. Uraraka gets slept on in universe because she is a cute girl but she’s actually one of the most dangerous in class 1-A and is focused mostly on improving and we see her doing it

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      The Bakugou vs Todoroki fight is noce because while Bakugou saw it as “if Todoroki used his flames he would’ve won”, Todoroki realized “I can’t beat Bakugou (or Midoriya) without my flames”. It goes to what Midoriya said about how foolish Todoroki was to believe that he could be #1 hero with just half his power.

    • @mjcaboose3479
      @mjcaboose3479 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Rowdy Rob Gaming yeah in the provisional exam to get into the school she got the third best score behind Bakugo and Iida

  • @Native_Beats_
    @Native_Beats_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    I have gained a new favourite term.
    "Lingerie Model from Hell"

    • @jacobbenns6090
      @jacobbenns6090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, lingerie model from hell, aka my ex...

    • @Andri474
      @Andri474 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't that just your typical succubus?

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andri474 if demon, yes, if not, WHFB Witch elf?

  • @ironicdutchmoonshade1394
    @ironicdutchmoonshade1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After Red coughed and said "oh god" at 16:24 I immediately got an ad for soda. Sometimes TH-cam just gets it right.

  • @lookmanobraincells9072
    @lookmanobraincells9072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thank you for this video, because I would have not watched Yu Yu Hakusho, and now it is one of my favorite shows

    • @saundramonette4137
      @saundramonette4137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its incredible, i just finished it recently

  • @victorresto7765
    @victorresto7765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Anime catches up to Manga...
    Manga in hiatus...
    Anime writer sweats...
    Thinks...
    "TOURNAMENT ARC!!!! TOURNAMENT ARC!!!!!!"

    • @justincurl1378
      @justincurl1378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *Gigguk*
      *Gigguk for days*

    • @willieoelkers5568
      @willieoelkers5568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And thanks to that mentality we have One Piece's Davy Back filler arc, which caused so much physical pain (mostly from face-palming) the first time I watched it I have made a point of skipping whenever I rewatch.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willieoelkers5568 that arc is in the manga bro. Maybe you are thinking of something else, because I switched to the manga after Alabasta.

    • @willieoelkers5568
      @willieoelkers5568 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasffrench3639 Eh, it was drawn out and pointless so I assumed it was filler.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willieoelkers5568 I liked it in the manga well enough, but it’s a different experience, so I get that it might not have worked in the anime. The Davy Back is referenced later in the series so it establishes something in canon

  • @Object-Impermanence-Official
    @Object-Impermanence-Official 5 ปีที่แล้ว +662

    I'm disappointed you didn't mention pokemon. That whole show is basically based off tournament arcs (and animal rights)

    • @7deEspadas
      @7deEspadas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      At least in Pokémon we know who Will NOT win...
      Ash

    • @Fordmister
      @Fordmister 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I think you kinda have to treat pokemon a little differently as its essentially a fantasy sport/slice of life show in which occasional shonnen save the world nonsense just happens to people. take out the shonnen bit you still have your show about a "sports team on tour and all the dumb stuff that happens along the way", you take out the leagues and you have a kid watching somebody else save the word on the news.
      The games are kind of the same, its about you rising up the monster fighting divisions to become the best in the country in which you accidently stumble into an evil plot to end the world with some group of suprisingly well branded crimals trying to capture a god.

    • @wesleypatterson2267
      @wesleypatterson2267 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      especially Battle Frontier. They spent what felt like an entire season on Ash Vs Brandon rematches

    • @Thnickaman1
      @Thnickaman1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      7deEspadas I was thinking the same thing, but no one remembers him winning the Orange Island League. Poor Ash. One moment of glory, a lifetime of mediocrity.

    • @JacobTakaMisterT
      @JacobTakaMisterT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Honestly? I expected to see beyblade.... because it’s like 80 percent tournaments

  • @smsdamiracle
    @smsdamiracle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    17:37 Watched this video before and slightly remembered what you said about Bakugo vs Uraraka, some time passed and I watched their fight in the show just now and I seen that scene of the homeroom teacher defending them both and was trying hard to remember which video of yours I heard you mention this in and I’m glad I found it. MHA writing is pretty damn good so far

  • @GaryJojo
    @GaryJojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The funniest thing about Kuwabara and Younger Toguro is that they both go along with the plan of "fake death" to trick Yusuke for a power up without ever saying anything to eachother. How I imagine it is just that Kuwabara could probably understand what Toguro wants through fighting him, being that he wants to die, and he's not strong enough nor willing to kill him. So Kuwabara just starts overselling and Toguro sees what he's doing and just goes along with it to push Yusuke even more.

  • @3sikesimdead946
    @3sikesimdead946 5 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    the way you pacific rim clips to convey the emotions of the comment sections are amazing

  • @A11y_Kat
    @A11y_Kat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Red’s impression of Bakugo has me LIVING I thought that was actually him for a hot sec

    • @nataleynakata3687
      @nataleynakata3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I am totally imagining how Red would react if she attended a My Hero Academia convention and VA panel. Particularly if she gets to meet Bakugo's American VA.

    • @A11y_Kat
      @A11y_Kat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@nataleynakata3687 *syncronized screaming at Deku’s voice actor*

  • @Wuffskers
    @Wuffskers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel like the my hero tournament really shows the merit of a relatively low-stakes tournament, if midoriya had to win the tournament to survive or save someone, the twists of that tournament wouldn't have worked out.

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it kinda says something that of my six favourite tournament arcs, only one has life or death stakes.
      with that said Squid Game is actually my second favourite tournament of all time.

  • @rachell.5555
    @rachell.5555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think Uraraka and Bakugo’s fight in the tournament was kinda cool because we thought that she would win not because of how powerful she was at that point compared to bakugo, but rather because we are just used to the less powerful person to win just because we like that stuff and see it a lot in media. But bakugo wins, and even still it’s not entirely a win for him as the crowd really liked Uraraka and they got to see how capable she was and most of all how smart she was. Idk it was just really cool to me.

  • @gingernorton
    @gingernorton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    Hey, I wonder what would happen if you had a show that was 90% tournament arc?
    *beyblade theme intensifies*

    • @alecchristiaen4856
      @alecchristiaen4856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      basically every game driven anime ever, including but not limited to:
      +yu-gi-oh!
      +beyblade
      +bakugan (that was a thing, right?)

    • @syabilaazri7834
      @syabilaazri7834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Pretty much every cards game in anime and other too like Medabot, B-daman, other fighting involed with beast, etc...

    • @ralphjackson2518
      @ralphjackson2518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Girls und Panzer is that with tanks

    • @regis5112
      @regis5112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A manga that is ONLY a tournament arc is Record of Ragnarok and it is awesome

    • @s_c_u_m3172
      @s_c_u_m3172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@syabilaazri7834 omg you just reminded me of b daman i used to watch that alot as a kid

  • @ignisleo4966
    @ignisleo4966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I love how there is a pause in the beginning, and I literally predicted the use of the giant robots. You just know Red is gonna say something "controversial".

  • @Wisper200
    @Wisper200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can I just talk about how amazing Kuabara's fake-out death was at the end of the tournament?! The main bad-guy, who is super brutal and ruthlessly kills every opponent somehow decides to wordlessly pretend to kill Kuabara, and Kuabara decides to play along, despite not even fainting from the attack. He just plays dead during the entirety of the rest of the boss fight.

  • @ryanthekinghunter5357
    @ryanthekinghunter5357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tournament of elements from ninjago is great in this regard to how much it expanded the greater world of ninjago

  • @Nintenfan81
    @Nintenfan81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +825

    "Man I hope Hero Academia stays good."
    No worries. It gets _better._ Assuming the adaptation stays as great as it is, of course.

    • @mabogibo525
      @mabogibo525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Actually, the current arc is kinda... well, dull.

    • @Gore1704
      @Gore1704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@mabogibo525 Them be fighting words mate. The current arc is amazing. Okay, it had some missteps, but it still has some utterly amazing moments that make up for it.
      The answer to whether I mean the current manga arc or the upcoming anime arc is yes.

    • @Iffondrel
      @Iffondrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Mabo Gibo There’s people that think this?! I’m probably just really opinionated, but the current arc in the manga is something I’ve literally waited years for and I just think it’s so exciting. Even when slower or less important arcs do come around, they’re timed well in the story so there’s never really been an arc I ever found particularly boring.

    • @formula2233
      @formula2233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      dude villain training arc is the best arc we've had in a while

    • @silverdays2909
      @silverdays2909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MHA can never be good its a anime
      All anime must burn

  • @phantomkitten73
    @phantomkitten73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    My favorite trope in fiction is the whole "You're not going to pull the trigg-" **BOOM!**
    Although now that I think about, it's more of a subversion of the reluctant hero holding someone at gunpoint.

    • @kungfuskull
      @kungfuskull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Is that really a trope? I can only think of like...3 ...examples, not all of which are actual triggers, just the moment of doubting the seriousness/conviction of a rival character.

    • @blackeyedchild3688
      @blackeyedchild3688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      kungfuskull I think it was meant to be a joke but yeah I get what you mean.

    • @timsmith618
      @timsmith618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@alexross1816 Or in Red vs Blue, when South says, "Oh come on, Wash. What are you gonna do, shoot m-" BANG. And Wash replies, "Yes. Good idea."

    • @Ajehy
      @Ajehy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There’s a subversion I enjoyed in the first Ciaphas Cain book.
      “You’re not going to shoot”
      “I’ll totally shoot”
      “No you won’t, it will alert the HORDE OF MURDEROUS ALIENS right over there, and you’ll die along with us.”
      “... ok, good point, I’m leaving now.”

    • @paulollarsabaiii9824
      @paulollarsabaiii9824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@timsmith618 Or in Hellsing Ultimate, where the "CM;HB" villain Schrodinger taunts the "Too Old For This" boss Integra. Integra, completely stoic and sudden, just caps Schrodinger with a .357 round!

  • @comicsans3272
    @comicsans3272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When i read the title I imediatly thought of ninjago and its like the first example of what it can do good because it introduces a lot more of elemental masters

  • @A_Person7307
    @A_Person7307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Either drop your moral code or stop staging the fate of the world on death matches!" DBZA is so funny

  • @MorganJagermeister
    @MorganJagermeister 5 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    Maybe you could talk about the “lost in another world” trope. Like whenever a character is transported to another dimension or sucked into a video game

    • @mennograafmans1595
      @mennograafmans1595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      So, every Isekai?

    • @dragonwithamonocle
      @dragonwithamonocle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Hunter X Hunter did a great arc about that.

    • @YataTheFifteenth
      @YataTheFifteenth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Every Isekai ever wants to: *_KNOW YOUR LOCATION_*

    • @manicpixiefangirl4189
      @manicpixiefangirl4189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      “Kagome!”
      “Inuyasha!”
      *repeat*

    • @rasaecnai
      @rasaecnai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@dragonwithamonocle well actually, not really. only sort of. greed island was not really a video game but actually a real place in HxH universe. Genei ryodan members actually realized that they were in the real world and actually reached the island using a boat. But they got ejected from the island by a friend of Jin.

  • @RyelynCaster
    @RyelynCaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The plot of Pokémon and Bay-blade is basically one big tournament arc.

  • @your_dad_on_vacation
    @your_dad_on_vacation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    When I watching the tournament I was like "meh, I know Midoriya will win, so I can skip around a bit" got to the point where they announced the winner of the round and I was like "Hold up I need to go back!!!" Cuz damn did they make it interesting

    • @redwings13400
      @redwings13400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I was super glad Midoriya lost, because at the time of the arc, he wasn't the strongest character in the tournament, and I think Midoriya winning this would have felt super cheap. The results of the tourney, aside from all the character development everyone got, really hammered down a status quo that set up the next season that was pretty internally consistent.
      Bakugo and Shoto are the powerhouses of the class, with Shoto being the strongest student, but only if he doesn't hold back. Bakugo, meanwhile, was much closer to Shoto in power level than the two were at the start of the show, which means if the status quo continues, Bakugo could easily surpass Shoto someday.
      Midoriya's quirk is obviously the one with the most potential power, but until he learns to control it, every fight he's in will hurt him significantly, and he can't keep up the status quo forever or he'll become useless. A tournament arc with relatively low stakes is a good way to show that he's not entirely there yet, because he can lose without dramatic world consequences.
      Ochako is really smart and really strong, but not quite at the level of the two powerhouses of class 1A. Still, she's not going to be a pushover in future episodes, and sets herself up as a supporting character who hopefully will not just be a damsel in distress when things get tough.
      All in all, the results of the tournament felt right and very consistent with everything we were told before, and the journey was pretty great.

  • @theodorebricker7492
    @theodorebricker7492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having recently rewatched RWBY, I like its Tournament arc. It's used mostly for new characters, foreshadowing the enemies, and a lot is going on in the background that has nothing to do with the Tourney itself. Keeps things interesting.

  • @pardoxia7242
    @pardoxia7242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    The little robot fight sequences whenever Red says something controversial gives me life.

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In case anyone forgot, those are from Pacific Rim

    • @knightshade2654
      @knightshade2654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where was it in this episode? I must have skipped over it.

    • @ashleyholston1058
      @ashleyholston1058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@knightshade2654 Twice, at the very beginning... when she first kinda disses, then kinda defends tournament arcs as a whole.

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ashleyholston1058 I love the first few seconds when Red's just looking up and looking like she's thinking "hmm how to phrase this?"

    • @pardoxia7242
      @pardoxia7242 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knightshade2654 At the very beginning when she says "Tournament arcs are kinda boring." or something to that effect.

  • @justanotherguywithamoustac8893
    @justanotherguywithamoustac8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    To me, the purpose of a tournament arc is to show off the variety in a series' magic system

    • @letmetakeajormungandrattha8591
      @letmetakeajormungandrattha8591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *cough* Ninjago *cough*

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I also think Tournament arcs can help a lot in introducing new characters and for world building. There’s just a lot of real good benefits to a tournament arc when done well.

  • @JustinoElArtista
    @JustinoElArtista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the major difference between the two tournament arc examples was the purpose of written said arcs. YYH, being one of the animes that defined the shonen genre, used the tournament primarily for character development with interesting plot pieces. It was a show that came out when binge-watching wasn't really all that possible (before streaming services were even a thing). Writers had to make those 20-minute periods as interesting as possible so people would continue to tune in every week so they wouldn't miss it. Those episodes are done so well for their time that they're almost self-contained stories that someone unfamiliar with the story so far could follow.
    Then you have MHA. That show, while clearly being shonen, parodies the shonen genre so well by subverting our expectations. Yeah, that tournament arc showed some interesting character development. However, it wasn't necessary to bring out that development. I'd wager that the writers set up the tournament specifically to draw attention to tournament tropes such as the protagonist winning, the revenge match, the rivalry (Midoriya spends very little time even speaking to Bokugo throughout the arc), the underdog victory, etc. They used our expectations to highlight the flaws of having the expectations while simultaneously showcasing the effects of said expectations all the characters are actively experiencing in-universe. MHA gives its characters agency, and I love it.

  • @mitchellbambam5926
    @mitchellbambam5926 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cool stuff about tournaments:
    -can introduce new characters (friends and foes alike)
    -can make characters who wouldn’t fight have an actual 1v1
    -shows off new abilities and lets characters get better at fighting
    -can combine in interesting ways with most common subplots
    In summary; Tournament Arks are awesome when done well. Giving your protagonists the chance to fight to the KO against any other cool character you can think of that day is a great way to worldbuild and introduce new recurring characters.

  • @Sabocat
    @Sabocat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    These need more Red songs. Who wouldn't want to hear Red singing anime themes?

    • @rodrikforrester6989
      @rodrikforrester6989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Even if I don't particularly like the video (and with this channel it's a rare occurence), a song at the end is an auto-like out of principle. She has an awesome singing voice, yo.

    • @Halberddent
      @Halberddent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want to hear Red sing stand proud

    • @Duane_Grabert
      @Duane_Grabert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Red has a beautiful voice. I'm calling for a full album with nothing but red's beautiful voice.

    • @Halberddent
      @Halberddent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Duane_Grabert That would get in the way of normal OSP stuff. I guess one could collect all the songs that she does throughout everyday video production and compile them into a playlist though.

    • @rodrikforrester6989
      @rodrikforrester6989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Duane_Grabert You ain't the first, a compilation of her stuff from the end of the videos would be nice.

  • @JustinPageSlayer
    @JustinPageSlayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Damn, I KNEW that deku was trying to become the next hokage, thanks for confirming

  • @SamBrickell
    @SamBrickell ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you imagine how cool it would be if montages worked in real life.

  • @3_raccoons_in_a_business_suit
    @3_raccoons_in_a_business_suit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hot take: Sports Animes/shows have perfected the tournament arc, thus have them as their entire premise