Intuitiveness is underrated in graphs, although I would like these to be exponential so as to not bias too much towards the 10-12watt and upper ranges of power which barely happen - even gaming is often 4-6 watts
I prefer using emulators like dolphin and aethersx2 and test heavy games in a higher resolution each like 1x to 4x and so I'm not a fan of genshin because it's online I hate online games well that's just my opinion though 🤷
Can you make your power efficiency chart available online? So anyone can go in and compare chips he's interested in? One could turn all off and just compare ds 8100 Vs 8200 or else.. Again great work btw. Looking forward to another videos!
They did have one that contains charts that compare the CPU, GPU, and power efficiency for all mobile chips, but it is only available in Chinese... But I think the charts are OK to understand. Since external links in comments will be automatically removed, you can try to search for "socpk".
They actually have one but in Chinese, and I think they haven’t mentioned it yet on here TH-cam. It’s called socpk. A great website with informative graphs
I'm rooting for Mediatek SoCs to reach custom ROM and emulation support levels equal to those of Snapdragon. Qualcomm has a history of jacking up its SoC prices to unreasonable levels, whereas Mediatek devices usually provide better price-to-performance ratios (not sure about the Dimensity 9000 in that respect). We need more competitors in the phone SoC space just like in the PC CPU and GPU segments.
Mediatek will only be better at emulation if Arm ever open-sources their GPU drivers, which they never will. Mediatek is at Arm's mercy, and they can't do anything about it. I hate Arm with a passion.
@@fancyyahoo ikr. Mali GPU drivers aren't open source only Adreno has open source drivers. Adreno also has its long history of app support. Hence why Snapdragon phones are so so much better at emulation with the least amount of graphical bugs, unlike Mali. Idk why Arm doesn't open source their drivers yet.
@@arkhalis3682 this is so infuriating, considering that the Dimensity 4-digit-number SoCs do seem to have become capable of giving Qualcomm Snapdragon a run for its money nowadays. I used vague wording because I haven't tested any Dimensity phone myself yet, but they do look quite promising, according to most reviews.
the 7 plus gen 2 is undebatable a great SOC but i hope QUALCOMM does not place a premium on it which would kill the point of its entire existence. i hope the next gen of this is based on intel 3 or TSMC 3x(intel 3 is rumored to support 4ghz like a pieco of cake and can get up to 5.7/5.8Ghz so a little worse than intel 7 clocks) for better voltage regulation which is a problem on this CPU which makes it less efficient than it should be according to its specs.
Naming is one thing another one is pricing. I highly doubt we will see the 7+ Gen 2 much in the sub 500$ weight class the 7 Series usually occupied. I think this if anything is a successor to the very popular 870 in terms of power and featureset.
so do you mean 7+G2 will be below $500 or above? so far the Redmi Note 12 turbo China pricing is $290, I cant imagine it being more than $350 for international pricing
As someone who will be switching phones next year, I'll be eagerly looking for a phone that has this chip. This would be a huge jump from my current Snapdragon 778G, which delivers around 520-540K max on Antutu, so the 7+ Gen 2 might give me double the performance which is absolutely crazy, it's not as crazy as the 4x performance jump from the 2018 Kirin 659 to the Snapdragon 778G, but damn, If an affordable enough phone launches with this chip, I won't think twice about buying it
Using Poco F5 rn i could said 7+ gen 2 is insane, Big power and really good thermal. And you know what? This phone only cost $300 😶 and yes every manufacturer should use this SOC on their mid-range phone
You guys are the best in providing detailed reviews of tech stuff and also in explaining with great illustrations and useful charts! Your Chinese channel is filled with hundreds of informative videos, you should start giving English captions for old videos. I hope that you get more sponsors and post more often in English. Edit: If you post more on your Chinese channel, please consider using English for those graphs and other illustrations as well.
While this isn’t really applicable to me at the moment, I can’t help but enjoy the video, you guys have by far and away the best processor testing of any channel.
9 months later there's still only 2 phones with this chipset. What a shame. Played around with the POCO F5 with this chipset. It's really powerful for the price. Runs yuzu switch emulator like a champ. I think it was too expensive to put on a budget phone afterall.
Companies don't want flagship performance on a cheaper device, they want to sell flagships instead, so you won't see many of these almost flagship, surprisingly cheap phones out there, but you will see flagships that have a very similar experience in terms of performance but costs double the price. You can actually find Motorola devices with similar specs but they're priced like a flagship instead.
there's realme neo 5 SE which is better in some aspects like charging and camera, but unfortunately they lock SIM cards in some countries and make you unable to use the SIM card.
It's been 7 months since this video released. So far only two phones use the 7+ gen 2. Redmi Note 12 Turbo/Poco F5 and Realme GT Neo 5 SE. It's unlikely more phones will use it. The reason for this is the high price of 7+ gen 2 relative to it's midrange status. 7 gen 3 is rumoured to have less performance than the 7+ gen 2 but it'll present better profit margins for the manufacturers (to the detriment of the consumers). I myself am using a 7+ gen 2 phone and I'm extremely happy with it's performance and especially it's battery life. I would've highly recommended a 7+ gen 2 phone if it wasn't for the fact that Android 14 is just round the corner and if you buy a 7+ gen 2 phone now, you'll get an Android 13 phone and have to almost immediately update to 14. Which means you'll get almost a year less worth of Android updates. Goodbye 7+ gen 2. You were too good for this world.
I have always told poeple. Buy last years flagship instead of todays mid tier device. 800 series chips were just plain better even years after release compared to ANY 700 series chip. I think the only company that managed to utilize them well was google with the Pixel A series but even then, the flagship pixels were on huge discounts few months after launch.
You probably have a lot to do.. but I hope you post more frequently on this English version of geekerwan.. your approach to statistics gives you a massive advantage in the English space Where it is common practice for Chinese reviews, this in-depth method is not even present on sites like gsmarena please don't underestimate the potential of your channel
Found this channel a few hours ago and already binged bout 5+ videos in a row. Absolutely fantastic content! Also, what's the song playing from 7:23 to 8:25 (during the GPU performance section)? It's an absolute banger!
I think you should get your hands in a Poco F5 and re-do the performance and efficency comparisons, now with a propper retail and mass production phone and with the most fabrication defects of the chip probably detected and fixed after some months
in fact,he has 3540k sub in China biggest video website bilibili.I would say he is the most responsible and comprehensive and honest blogger i have seen!😊
because lack of english videos. his channel in china is the most popular. if geekerwan dedicated himself on english content, he would be having more subs than he has right now
@@dominiclynx8886 i don't push my phone to the limit with high demanding games and video editing apps ,but that was my plan when I've seen their latest video ,am gonna directly upgrade to the gen 2 or go for the more affordable dimensity 8100
@@MH3200 I'm still using the Snapdragon 865, it's still an incredibly fast chip in 2023. I still think it'll be good for another 3 years before needing an upgrade. But, I'll probably upgrade in a year's time because my phone's software support is about to end in 2024...
6:27 Only part I care about. Love these graphs thank you!!! Would love to see them go a bit lower on power though? The phone is going to spend most of it's time at 20wh batteries gets you 20 hours web browsing on most phones which are more than just the SoC so I'm guessing that's the case?
Could you let us know how you get those power scaling Geekbench benchmarks done. Also, you should do these power scaling benchmarks for laptop/desktop CPUs as well; I would love to know if a desktop CPU could be undervolted down and get similar performance (since they use the same 'Architecture' /core configuration sometimes)
I think DIY Gaming phone video with this chip would be spectacular, especially now when 8s gen 3 and 8 gen 3 is on its way. It would be great for comparison 😁👊
Not really... It's similar to 778G... but a little worse cuz manufactured by samsung. The only pro is the gpu adreno 710 but is not a big deal. 7s gen 2 is dissapointing... I hope 7s gen 3 catch the 7 gen 1
Love the quality on Geekerwan's videos. It's still a few years until I get a new phone. But I hope that until then this chip gets cheap and optimized. The performance is amazing.
My calculations resulted in teraflops. 2.2 TFlops This is a lot of shading performance for a mid-range SOC. My SD 865 has only 1.3 TFlops. Awesome that a mid-range SOC is stronger than an old high-end SOC. And for comparison, an A16 has about 3.1 TFlops, and SD 8 gen 2, 3.8 TFlops. Its all GPU focused not CPU
@@malathomas6141 there was a qualcomm press pdf where they claimed adreno 640 had 950 gflops, this doesnt mean much when the tegra x1 that only has 500 gflops performs similarly.
One of the biggest problems with Mediatek chips are the drivers. Although it can display raw performance in some synthetic benchs, it fails to deliver in emulators, for instance.
If you guys can make a video about the whole entire Xiaomi 12 series lineup, yes all of them... That would be a legendary comparison and much appreciated!
Hi! I've a little question: how do you create those graphs and animations? I'd like to develop a 3d printing course and i'd like to use them! Thanks a lot
I believe that people saw that Poco F5 was more expensive and with less antutu score than X6 pro, so they instantly forgot F5. This is sad for me cuz i wanted the F5 to be succesfull and become a legend, but that not happened. At least is quite a unique phone cuz its flagship power and 3.5mm jack for decent price. But now im not quite sure, cuz the OnePlus Ace 3V with snap 7+Gen 3 looks amazing.
Amazing chip for the upper midrange/flagship killer segment. First one using it will be the Redmi Note 12 Turbo, which night be released as a Poco worldwide
likely "hardlocked" due to binning. Trying to push this chip if you're even able too will likely start to show the flaws quickly, results of this thing not cutting it for 8+ levels of performance. So at that point just get the 8+
"Mid tier", right. Those are the 2nd most powerful chip class only behind the 8th. The flagship phones are now usually released with 2 or 3 models (standard, plus, and pro) and I'm sure those 7 gen 2 will be installed into one of those models. This actually pushes down the older 8 Snapdragon (855, 860, 865, 870, 888) down to the mid-range or maybe "higher-end mid-range". Can you believe that the 870 or maybe even the 888 will no longer belong to the flagship class? This is kinda crazy. On the plus side, as how the mobile market never stops booming, we'll be able to get a device with most powerful chip for half the price in every 2-3 years delay time. I think if you're not a die-hard gamer this is a very decent direction. I actually kinda hope game devs make more creative games and not the same old copy-paste games over and over. "With these behemoth powerful chips and display, you expect me to make micro-transactions huh idiots?"
I didn't know there was an ultra version of the 8100. Correct me if I'm wrong but when it comes to comparing processers, in some competing CPUs there's no overall better but just that one does some things better than the other at some of the time...
Comparing to 8+g1, this new chip looks great. Missed nothing from those decreased frequencies, due to cooling limitations and thermal throttling. But, it definitely made chip much cheaper, because of reduced silicon quality requirements.
I was always curious if any technicians out there can change a phones chipset like by ordering if they have any supplier just so you could go to him have your phone upgraded and make it catch up with new ones. In that case you won't need to buy a new phone. If only I pursued my course up to 4 years, I would definitely study more and enter this world of creating smartphones.
Great review one correction is that MediaTek is not playing catch up its accelerating past qualcom with speed of light soon qualcom will be the one playing catch up
I thinl the argument with it made from same disc of silicon is valid. As for today. The gen2 dev almost nowhere to be found, this directly tell its low production rates(or simply they wont sacfrice 8gen2 for 7gen2)
We need another DIY Gaming phone
With 8gen2 💀
@@gamingwithabid1166 Nah with 8+ gen2🗿
its called RedMagic with stock ui
I think the RedMagic 8 was inspired by these guys.... I wanna see how much farther these guys can take the 8+gen2 chip
@@makuthreesixty8228 but Redmagic has been making these devices for like 5 yrs or so
You guys really have the very best graphs, very informative and intuitive. The perf per watt lines are what I come here for
True
true reviewer use genshin as benchmark not just some esport games
Intuitiveness is underrated in graphs, although I would like these to be exponential so as to not bias too much towards the 10-12watt and upper ranges of power which barely happen - even gaming is often 4-6 watts
I prefer using emulators like dolphin and aethersx2 and test heavy games in a higher resolution each like 1x to 4x and so I'm not a fan of genshin because it's online I hate online games well that's just my opinion though 🤷
@@AGoogleUser-e7v You hate Online games? Holy shit, You don't live to play games with your friends, or maybe you don't have any?
Geekerwan casually regularly coming and dropping some of the most detailed and useful information for choosing a phone indirectly and leaving
I hope it gets even cheaper with the time
nah, new one out expensive > old models cheaper
@GOOD FARMER it will.
@@luckydepressedguy8981 redmi note 12 turbo in China starting only $299
Competition is key, make sure to praise any competitor equally. Competition benefits us, the consumers.
@@khunrocky606 that's China. Global gonna add an extra $100.
Can you make your power efficiency chart available online? So anyone can go in and compare chips he's interested in?
One could turn all off and just compare ds 8100 Vs 8200 or else..
Again great work btw.
Looking forward to another videos!
It would be great if he had a webpage
google socpk
They did have one that contains charts that compare the CPU, GPU, and power efficiency for all mobile chips, but it is only available in Chinese... But I think the charts are OK to understand. Since external links in comments will be automatically removed, you can try to search for "socpk".
They actually have one but in Chinese, and I think they haven’t mentioned it yet on here TH-cam. It’s called socpk. A great website with informative graphs
Nice Idea!
I'm rooting for Mediatek SoCs to reach custom ROM and emulation support levels equal to those of Snapdragon. Qualcomm has a history of jacking up its SoC prices to unreasonable levels, whereas Mediatek devices usually provide better price-to-performance ratios (not sure about the Dimensity 9000 in that respect). We need more competitors in the phone SoC space just like in the PC CPU and GPU segments.
Mediatek will only be better at emulation if Arm ever open-sources their GPU drivers, which they never will. Mediatek is at Arm's mercy, and they can't do anything about it. I hate Arm with a passion.
@@arkhalis3682 wait, really? I thought ARM's Mali GPU drivers were already open-source. This is so dang annoying!
@@fancyyahoo ikr. Mali GPU drivers aren't open source only Adreno has open source drivers. Adreno also has its long history of app support. Hence why Snapdragon phones are so so much better at emulation with the least amount of graphical bugs, unlike Mali. Idk why Arm doesn't open source their drivers yet.
@@arkhalis3682 this is so infuriating, considering that the Dimensity 4-digit-number SoCs do seem to have become capable of giving Qualcomm Snapdragon a run for its money nowadays. I used vague wording because I haven't tested any Dimensity phone myself yet, but they do look quite promising, according to most reviews.
because MTK is potentially unstable, due to closed source code, even MTK 8100 got custom roms (still the GPU section really sux)
Great seeing you back at it!
Agree!
the 7 plus gen 2 is undebatable a great SOC but i hope QUALCOMM does not place a premium on it which would kill the point of its entire existence. i hope the next gen of this is based on intel 3 or TSMC 3x(intel 3 is rumored to support 4ghz like a pieco of cake and can get up to 5.7/5.8Ghz so a little worse than intel 7 clocks) for better voltage regulation which is a problem on this CPU which makes it less efficient than it should be according to its specs.
so far it looking good with $290 Redmi Note 12 Turbo (china pricing)
I ordered a Redmi Note 12 Turbo with 16GB RAM and 1TB ROM for $379.
@@vijayzhou9861 wherr you bought at?
Can u tell me what does SOC means ?
@@edel257 a system on chip means a SOC, everything needed to run a computer is present on that single chip
Naming is one thing another one is pricing. I highly doubt we will see the 7+ Gen 2 much in the sub 500$ weight class the 7 Series usually occupied. I think this if anything is a successor to the very popular 870 in terms of power and featureset.
I was just about to say this, I have a poco F3 & was looking for a successor to the 870.
Sadly in afraid you're right
so do you mean 7+G2 will be below $500 or above? so far the Redmi Note 12 turbo China pricing is $290, I cant imagine it being more than $350 for international pricing
@@ca9inec0mic58 350? you're kidding? right? 🤣
@@ca9inec0mic58 Not with today's inflation rates. It will be expensive chip, no new SoC have being cheaper than the old generation.
As someone who will be switching phones next year, I'll be eagerly looking for a phone that has this chip. This would be a huge jump from my current Snapdragon 778G, which delivers around 520-540K max on Antutu, so the 7+ Gen 2 might give me double the performance which is absolutely crazy, it's not as crazy as the 4x performance jump from the 2018 Kirin 659 to the Snapdragon 778G, but damn, If an affordable enough phone launches with this chip, I won't think twice about buying it
Poco F5 is out. Did you buy it?
Using Poco F5 rn i could said 7+ gen 2 is insane, Big power and really good thermal. And you know what? This phone only cost $300 😶 and yes every manufacturer should use this SOC on their mid-range phone
I also have it which os is best for it( miui vs hyper os) for gaming and battery life
using meme UI since I bought the device, heard that BB is very bad in diaper OS @@mobeenakhter9859
You guys are the best in providing detailed reviews of tech stuff and also in explaining with great illustrations and useful charts! Your Chinese channel is filled with hundreds of informative videos, you should start giving English captions for old videos. I hope that you get more sponsors and post more often in English.
Edit: If you post more on your Chinese channel, please consider using English for those graphs and other illustrations as well.
The level of smooth animations in this video is really incredible, setting a real high bar...
Can u do such detailed comparisions between buying old flagship vs new mid range for same price!?
Those comprehensive graphs are what differentiate you from another reviewer/analyst. Well done💯
While this isn’t really applicable to me at the moment, I can’t help but enjoy the video, you guys have by far and away the best processor testing of any channel.
long time no see and youre back with sponsors, congrats on the new achievement
9 months later there's still only 2 phones with this chipset. What a shame. Played around with the POCO F5 with this chipset. It's really powerful for the price. Runs yuzu switch emulator like a champ. I think it was too expensive to put on a budget phone afterall.
Companies don't want flagship performance on a cheaper device, they want to sell flagships instead, so you won't see many of these almost flagship, surprisingly cheap phones out there, but you will see flagships that have a very similar experience in terms of performance but costs double the price.
You can actually find Motorola devices with similar specs but they're priced like a flagship instead.
there's realme neo 5 SE which is better in some aspects like charging and camera, but unfortunately they lock SIM cards in some countries and make you unable to use the SIM card.
It's been 7 months since this video released.
So far only two phones use the 7+ gen 2. Redmi Note 12 Turbo/Poco F5 and Realme GT Neo 5 SE. It's unlikely more phones will use it.
The reason for this is the high price of 7+ gen 2 relative to it's midrange status.
7 gen 3 is rumoured to have less performance than the 7+ gen 2 but it'll present better profit margins for the manufacturers (to the detriment of the consumers).
I myself am using a 7+ gen 2 phone and I'm extremely happy with it's performance and especially it's battery life. I would've highly recommended a 7+ gen 2 phone if it wasn't for the fact that Android 14 is just round the corner and if you buy a 7+ gen 2 phone now, you'll get an Android 13 phone and have to almost immediately update to 14. Which means you'll get almost a year less worth of Android updates.
Goodbye 7+ gen 2. You were too good for this world.
You upload one video in several months but it's always worth waiting for
Thanks to you I don't have to watch tens of reviewers to come to a conclusion
in his main Chinese channel, he's active
you may consider to go to bilibili , the mianland china platform that we use . However , u may need a tramslater .
@@frankiman6977 what's the name
@@thatguy8841 just type geekerwan in the search engine...
@@thatguy8841 it's called 極客灣，you can also type Geekerwan
I have always told poeple. Buy last years flagship instead of todays mid tier device. 800 series chips were just plain better even years after release compared to ANY 700 series chip. I think the only company that managed to utilize them well was google with the Pixel A series but even then, the flagship pixels were on huge discounts few months after launch.
This used to be true until 778g came. Now they get outperformed in like 2 years.
This would be bad advice in the year of the 888 and midrange chipsets like the dimensity 8100....
So that rule of yours is slowly getting worse
@@viyusavery248 maybe in performance, but everything else still hold true in terms of features, camera, etc...
You probably have a lot to do.. but I hope you post more frequently on this English version of geekerwan.. your approach to statistics gives you a massive advantage in the English space
Where it is common practice for Chinese reviews, this in-depth method is not even present on sites like gsmarena please don't underestimate the potential of your channel
Found this channel a few hours ago and already binged bout 5+ videos in a row. Absolutely fantastic content! Also, what's the song playing from 7:23 to 8:25 (during the GPU performance section)? It's an absolute banger!
I think you should get your hands in a Poco F5 and re-do the performance and efficency comparisons, now with a propper retail and mass production phone and with the most fabrication defects of the chip probably detected and fixed after some months
Can't believe geekawarn only has just over 150k subs.. is it because of his painfully honest and detailed reviews?.😂 I love his videos to be honest
in fact,he has 3540k sub in China biggest video website bilibili.I would say he is the most responsible and comprehensive and honest blogger i have seen!😊
189sub
because lack of english videos. his channel in china is the most popular. if geekerwan dedicated himself on english content, he would be having more subs than he has right now
You're videos are the reason that am still using a 865 chip and not upgrading to any of those new flagships
If you ever thought of upgrading one day. Go for atleast a 8gen2 from 865. You would notice triple performance on emulators
@@dominiclynx8886 i don't push my phone to the limit with high demanding games and video editing apps ,but that was my plan when I've seen their latest video ,am gonna directly upgrade to the gen 2 or go for the more affordable dimensity 8100
@@MH3200 why not the 7+ Gen 2?
@@ca9inec0mic58 8 gen 2 will last longer and 8100 is older thus it cheaper and widly used and many phones
@@MH3200 I'm still using the Snapdragon 865, it's still an incredibly fast chip in 2023. I still think it'll be good for another 3 years before needing an upgrade. But, I'll probably upgrade in a year's time because my phone's software support is about to end in 2024...
Please review Qualcomm Snapdragon 8s gen 3. Thanks.
he did review it on another channel awhile ago but it's chinese only unfortunately, but there is english subtitles
Best smartphone SoC reviewers on TH-cam, period. I'm grateful for your English dubs, English captions on your Chinese channel are not the same.
I can't wait for you guys to post more. Incredible quality of testing and very entertaining to watch. Thank you!
This is the only channel I've notifications on for. I crave more such high-quality content.
6:27 Only part I care about.
Love these graphs thank you!!! Would love to see them go a bit lower on power though? The phone is going to spend most of it's time at 20wh batteries gets you 20 hours web browsing on most phones which are more than just the SoC so I'm guessing that's the case?
you guys are the best, your graph are out of world level, truly nice , keep it up
Could you let us know how you get those power scaling Geekbench benchmarks done.
Also, you should do these power scaling benchmarks for laptop/desktop CPUs as well; I would love to know if a desktop CPU could be undervolted down and get similar performance (since they use the same 'Architecture' /core configuration sometimes)
I think DIY Gaming phone video with this chip would be spectacular, especially now when 8s gen 3 and 8 gen 3 is on its way. It would be great for comparison 😁👊
Im 100% with you, the only reason I've stuck to poco for my last few phones was the flagship chip
I am planning to buy Poco F5 because of the SD7+ 2Gen chip.
Poco x4 gt 🔥
@@butter5144 Poco X4 won't get it. F5 will get it.
@@Knoah321 i mean poco x4 gt has a premium flagship chip
Do you change phone every year? I've been hearing poco phones don't last long.
Is this similar with snapdragon 7s gen 2?
Not really... It's similar to 778G... but a little worse cuz manufactured by samsung. The only pro is the gpu adreno 710 but is not a big deal.
7s gen 2 is dissapointing... I hope 7s gen 3 catch the 7 gen 1
Redmi note 12 turbo use this chip. I don't know others.
plz make another Gaming phone or insane Battery or Other mods to Phones.... seriously your channel is awesome keep it up
Can you do a new diy gaming phone with 8gen2 maxed out and
drag race it against the old one? Could be a banger video
Love the quality on Geekerwan's videos. It's still a few years until I get a new phone. But I hope that until then this chip gets cheap and optimized. The performance is amazing.
My calculations resulted in teraflops. 2.2 TFlops This is a lot of shading performance for a mid-range SOC. My SD 865 has only 1.3 TFlops. Awesome that a mid-range SOC is stronger than an old high-end SOC. And for comparison, an A16 has about 3.1 TFlops, and SD 8 gen 2, 3.8 TFlops. Its all GPU focused not CPU
8gen3? Its leaked already?
How is teraflops of adreno gpu calculated? Seems different than how you calculate amd and nvidia gpu which does shader* clockspeed* 2
@@malathomas6141 there was a qualcomm press pdf where they claimed adreno 640 had 950 gflops, this doesnt mean much when the tegra x1 that only has 500 gflops performs similarly.
@@malathomas6141 As an example, I calculated it like this. Shader x Mhz x 2. SD 870: 1024x670x2=1.372 TFlops
@@Hank_Johnson how many alu does a16 have. And at what clockspeed?
One of the biggest problems with Mediatek chips are the drivers. Although it can display raw performance in some synthetic benchs, it fails to deliver in emulators, for instance.
Am looking forward to u guyz turning a snapdragon 8 gen 2 into a Windows phone,hope it will run a few games this time round
As usual, a real pleasure to watch your benchmark.
Big shout out to the team and keep the high quality work going. Take care of yourselfs.
This reminds me of 650 it was the last actually good midrange (beating 810 while being cheaper and more efficient)
The best phone channel for geeks,wish you uploaded as frequently as your chinese channel.
He was right about price bracket, F5 launched at 380 dollars.
8 gen 2 overclocking test?
+ Windows 11
Wow finally he is back
I think he is one of the most underrated tech reviewers in the world
If you guys can make a video about the whole entire Xiaomi 12 series lineup, yes all of them... That would be a legendary comparison and much appreciated!
Hi! I've a little question: how do you create those graphs and animations? I'd like to develop a 3d printing course and i'd like to use them! Thanks a lot
Lets hope Asus makes a ROG lite series with this so we can get active cooling and affordable gaming phones...
It would be a huge hit
Doesn't sound logical
Rog has never had active cooling inside phone, should be redmagic.
@@bulletpunch9317 I never mentioned internal or external, although I would love to hear your point as to why it's not logical..
In India we don't get anything other brand than ROG which also launches really late after release... That's why I mentioned that only
Dimemsity 8300 killed it
I believe that people saw that Poco F5 was more expensive and with less antutu score than X6 pro, so they instantly forgot F5.
This is sad for me cuz i wanted the F5 to be succesfull and become a legend, but that not happened.
At least is quite a unique phone cuz its flagship power and 3.5mm jack for decent price.
But now im not quite sure, cuz the OnePlus Ace 3V with snap 7+Gen 3 looks amazing.
please make videod regularly......your videos are real deal.
In Egypt it will be 700-800$ due to import tax
i liked how they pretended that the 8 gen 1 doesnt exist lol
Can you overcook it same as 8gen 2 and run the performance test
Probably not the engineering sample but hopefully in the future
Amazing chip for the upper midrange/flagship killer segment. First one using it will be the Redmi Note 12 Turbo, which night be released as a Poco worldwide
Yeah ! It's already launched
I bet that GPU has a lot of overclocking headroom
It's basically a downclocked 8+gen1 so yea
If they havent locked it.
likely "hardlocked" due to binning. Trying to push this chip if you're even able too will likely start to show the flaws quickly, results of this thing not cutting it for 8+ levels of performance. So at that point just get the 8+
7:57 ~3.3x GPU power in just 3 years! 😨😨😨
"Mid tier", right. Those are the 2nd most powerful chip class only behind the 8th. The flagship phones are now usually released with 2 or 3 models (standard, plus, and pro) and I'm sure those 7 gen 2 will be installed into one of those models. This actually pushes down the older 8 Snapdragon (855, 860, 865, 870, 888) down to the mid-range or maybe "higher-end mid-range". Can you believe that the 870 or maybe even the 888 will no longer belong to the flagship class? This is kinda crazy.
On the plus side, as how the mobile market never stops booming, we'll be able to get a device with most powerful chip for half the price in every 2-3 years delay time. I think if you're not a die-hard gamer this is a very decent direction.
I actually kinda hope game devs make more creative games and not the same old copy-paste games over and over. "With these behemoth powerful chips and display, you expect me to make micro-transactions huh idiots?"
I wonder if you can just overclock it like the mi 90 pro and get a over clocked Snapdragon 8+Gen1 😂 would be a great deal
you got your hands on qualcom preview phone !!!!! you are amazing
my redmi note 12 turbo got 940k score on antutu..not bad at all for a $320 phone
What's better MTK dimensity 8100(ultra) or Snapdragon 7+ Gen2?
I didn't know there was an ultra version of the 8100. Correct me if I'm wrong but when it comes to comparing processers, in some competing CPUs there's no overall better but just that one does some things better than the other at some of the time...
I would love if Geekerwan did a retrospective series into older flagship SoCs, like Exynos 9810, which I feel is very misunderstood.
Comparing to 8+g1, this new chip looks great.
Missed nothing from those decreased frequencies, due to cooling limitations and thermal throttling.
But, it definitely made chip much cheaper, because of reduced silicon quality requirements.
Just overclock the GPU and add some cooling it will match 8+gen1
Until you over clocked an 8+ gen 1@@ritwik0
Setting benchmarks in mobile chipset review! More deep dives, please.
Do Dimensity & Exy-, cough, Tensor chips too.
If it's far better than sd778 it will dominate for sure
We want DIY phone video with this phone or SOC 😆
Can you do a review on the performance of the S23 Ultra as a gaming device?
Please upload often
We need another DIY Gaming Phone with Snapdragon 870
(You guys should mod Poco f3)
Can you please check the performance gains that the s21 ultra gets from bypass charging
Man post more vids plse..I thought u you're never gonna post again. Post more content like the DIY gaming phone, windows on Android phone etc.
What do you think is the current best Mid-range SoC in the market, if there are any, base on your guidelines
Mostt details yet simple to understand on chipset topic. ❤
we can raise the gpu clock speed using konabess (potentially)
I was always curious if any technicians out there can change a phones chipset like by ordering if they have any supplier just so you could go to him have your phone upgraded and make it catch up with new ones. In that case you won't need to buy a new phone. If only I pursued my course up to 4 years, I would definitely study more and enter this world of creating smartphones.
another update of this vid plz i really like all the comparison of chipsets especially if ur looking to be efficient on ur upgrades
Great review one correction is that MediaTek is not playing catch up its accelerating past qualcom with speed of light soon qualcom will be the one playing catch up
Can you make comparison between qsd 7+gen2 to MTD8100
8100 Of course
??? They did. It's in the graphs. Yellow line 8100 better cpu, worse GPU.
Is there a link for all these graphs so we can see it online? I'd love to see this chart for the specific CPU online more than ever before now
Wow!! You guys have sponsorship now!!! Awesome!!
And tbh, my last phone upgrade was 5 years ago, it's now work like current Gen mid range, and gonna last for another few years more
Can u make dimensity 8300 review
impressive explanation. i like the your voice too, its clear to hear
Try to overclock it and see if you can get flagship performance
0:26 Error Info 778G
Hey!
778G have
1 x Prime 2.4GHz (A78) + 3 x BIG 2.4GHz (A78) + 4 x Small 1.8GHz (A55)
Very power efficient.. Do you have any Videos for the MD 7200?
Thanks for the review man, information delivered perfectly. Btw, huge fan of your analytics.
its really interesting.. hope they sell it cheap
Your videos simply the best, cheers from Venezuela
I thinl the argument with it made from same disc of silicon is valid. As for today. The gen2 dev almost nowhere to be found, this directly tell its low production rates(or simply they wont sacfrice 8gen2 for 7gen2)
I wish the new Google pixel 8 series would use the 7 + gen 2 for the regular pixel 8
This is a completely informative video for us geeks who prioritized power, efficiency and convenience in terms of availing the device.
Finally you posted
Can you make a content about phone battery upgrade? Like replacing Huawei Nova 5T battery with a bigger capacity battery?
Excellent Job. Finally i have a idea of how these cpu work. Thx.