Honda Civic E:HEV Review: Where Petrol Lasts Forever
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- Rory reviews the new Honda Civic e:HEV hybrid and discovers its capable of an astonishing 80mpg in the right circumstances. What sort of wizardry is this??
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*UK gallon is about 20% more in quantity. Something to consider… 80 UK mpg = 66.61 US mpg
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It's a UK channel. What exactly were you expecting them to say?
If only there was a measure system that would eliminate all this confusion. Ever heared of SI??
How is us miles per gallon different from uk miles per gallon. The measurement for miles and gallons is the same right?!
@Liam NIre obviously just a clarification for Americans who buy Hondas, which is ALOT of Americans.
I have a regular 2022 Honda insight hybrid and have averaged 58.5 mpg over 21k mikes in the USA since owning the car. I did the math on the mpg and that’s equal to the cost of driving a Tesla and using Tesla superchargers. I drove from South Carolina to Maine last summer on 2 tanks of gas, it has an 11 gallon fuel tank. I don’t think people realize how efficient hybrid cars are now. It’s a large car inside and I love it and it cost 25k less that a Tesla!
Yeah, getting a Tesla won't save money. It'll be a much more fun car to drive, and charging at home will cost a lot less, but still nowhere near enough to compensate for the price difference.
Though something like the Chevy Bolt... That one might actually turn out to be a bit more cost effective.
@@wojciechmuras553 Honda is a lot more durable then any Chevy
@@ItalianMetalHED ha ha, oh yeah?
@@wojciechmuras553 ". It'll be a much more fun car to drive,"
Sure, but the cheapest car on Tesla's website is $53K. It should be more fun for that $15K
@@wojciechmuras553 On Edmond's site, they calculate that a Corolla has a lower 5 year total cost than a Bolt
Why is it a shame the bootlid isn't motorised? It's a hatchback, there's no difficulty in pulling the boot closed, and it saves weight, cost and is something less to go wrong.
💯 motorised boots take forever (not literally) to compared to doing it yourself. Motorised boots, ultimate laziness
@@philipjames3526 I've never looked enviously at somebody in the supermarket car park when they're trying to wave their foot under the boot of their car and thought "I really want a boot that can open and close by itself" 🤣
They're great for disabled people or perhaps old folk that can't reach up anymore. Also great for obese people as they can chomp through a burger while they wait for it to close.
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. commenting on this 3 times is totally acceptable though
No need to wait in line for 4 hours to charge up. Enjoy your road trip.
I've had my EV for over 2 years, and I've never waited anywhere to charge. If you use ZapMap, you can avoid all that. I was travelling up the M6 a little while ago, and I was about 40 miles South of Carlisle, and needed a top-up charge. I popped into Tebay Services at Junction 38, which has a few chargers, but could see there was a queue. So, I looked at ZapMap, and noticed there were 2 chargers not being used, in Shap village, about a mile off the next junction (Junction 39) Job done, and some nice fish and chips for lunch from the village chippy while I charged. ZapMap is great, as it can give you real time info regarding charger waiting times if anyone is using a particular charger. It also provides pricing info, details on connector type, pricing etc.
Exactly
I'm a proud FL4 owner. I average ~62mpg on a normal run. I'm very happy.
I need me an SUV but I ain’t got much
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The 0-62 time is way quicker than advertised as well. It's made me really consider a hybrid. Well done Honda.
I've seen a video of it doing it in 6.6s. 1.5s faster than Honda claims!
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. ok we get it every bloody comment u posting this
@@BlingJ. hehe...you are working as a Toyota salesman right 😜😜😜
I find it funny that people are talking about 0-60 for a hybrid that is gonna be used for commuting!
I've been driving the honda e-hev a few months now and have been getting 60 to 80mpg on most runs around town with stop/starting.
Longer journeys about 55-65mpg
Great video, Rory
What’s the reliability like? There have been reports of throttle body corrosion.
@Anon
I've had no trouble with mine, everything working fine.
@@tjones8352 thanks for the reply. Considering to buy that car.
I have a question for you, if you are in a parking or a very quiet street and accelerate slowwly while the windows are down. Do you hear a high pitched noise coming from the engine bay?
Can you check? I bought mine a week ago and this faint sound is driving me crazy
@@bashirsidani7598it's from the inverters...it's normal on electric cars
I can't wait to see this car in the U.S. We have gotten this powertrain in the Accord for a very long time, including in the newly revealed 2023 model with 204 hp. Pretty excellent. Putting that powertrain in a hatchback, particularly in the most spacious one in the world, is a HUGE win.
Is it a traditional auto or a CVT?
@@thomasheart1337 Neither. The electric motor usually drives the wheels, the engine is just a free spinning generator. When cruising at higher speeds, a clutch can connect the engine to the wheels, but there’s only one gear ratio. Honda calls the setup an “eCVT”, but it’s not like a normal CVT.
@@TheEquationSlayer so it essentially works/feels like a cvt?
@@thomasheart1337 it feels like an EV, especially with the strong torque at low speeds. Sometimes it sounds like a CVT, although Honda programs the gas generator to alter RPMs like a traditional auto.
@@TheEquationSlayer thats kinda cool, have u driven one?
Don't try tell me that thing's a "compact hatch". It's a mid-size sedan at this point.
The back is a hatch though
@@AutoTraderTV technically I suppose it's more of a liftback. But in profile it's certainly sedan-shaped.
It’s a US EPA “large” car by total interior volume, as was the 10th gen hatch and the current Accord. The last “compact” Civic was the 10th gen 2-door.
@@xp50player good thing my "opinion" is also based on objective classification. A compact or C-segment car has a length of between 4.2-4.5m. The Civic is over 4.6m; which is over 30cm longer than a Golf and pretty much every other car that it's supposedly a rival to.
Absolutely true. To be fair Honda measures competitors and adds 2-3 inches to sell the extra room.
The way he removed that mat out of the trunk after spilling water on it gave me anxiety, lmao. Half that water just spilled back into the trunk
Seriously haha even when he poured it it splashed some off the matt lol, but he did prove his point
Elephants have trunks not cars.
@@stuartdixon747 boots go on your feet, not cars.
And the fact that the hatch isn't motorized is a plus. Cheaper to repair.
I fucking hate motorized hatches. Source: Just got quoted $850+tax to replace the motorized arms on my cars hatch.
But 36k
Typical pricing nowadays.. sadly.
Even if cost wasn't a factor, and future repairs weren't a factor - I just hate things that are powered which don't need to be powered. I don't want to wait, they are NEVER as fast as doing it myself.
I understand having the power option is great for accessibility when someone has medical reasons. For the time being that's not me and I prefer things kept as light and fast and simple as possible.
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King Honda, not only reliable but also performance is very good. now its even cool looking car
Guy's I've had this sport model since October traded a lovely AMG mercedes in for it but no regrets. This car is lovely to drive, smooth and powerful and very quiet. I've found myself using the paddles for braking a lot. In the ice and snow it was great for downhill braking. When your on nice country b roads you can leave your right foot on the accelerater brake slightly with the paddle as you hit the corner, then power away sort of sling shots you out of the bend, with a big grin on your face. A good friend of mine can confirm the top speed is also higher than the stated 112mph on his trip to Berlin. Fantastic car well done Honda.
Insanely great engineering from Honda as usual. Personally not a fan of the looks myself, but can't deny it's a great car.
The looks are out of the ballpark with this generation. At least in my humble opinion
An electic bike can cut ur car needs by half
Yeah great for me all round. Think its a good looking car too
I agree 👎👎👎👎, horrendous looking. The old type R was ok, this is worse. All new car have to be ugly 😂
It really is the future of car tech for the foreseeable future. I just hope it can tow 2k ibs
Had mine one month now and done a 600 mile round trip and pottering, so far I have 51mpg, it also accelerates much faster than the 0-60 in 8.1 secs would suggest. It has a 40 litre tank though which was surprising as I expected bigger. The suspension is amazing, it’s comfortable and yet corners on rails. The looks are subjective but I love it. I had no choice but to get the free colour Sonic Grey as it’s a cancellation I bought in The Elegance spec, I’ve already ordered the Advance in the same colour and have been told it could be up to 18 months before delivery !!
Any updates on the delivery time?
I've seen the comments and our US viewers need to remember that this is 80 "UK" MPG (which is different from US MPG), in the US MPG it is about 66 MPG, still impressive, but not 80 MPG in the way we would measure it.
Autocar India hypermiled a Honda City Hybrid at 60 kmph (though they did hit 100 kmph+ on downhills) and it gave 97 mpg in Uk gallons, 82 mpg in US galloons or 34.59 kmpl. Of course that might not be realistic speeds on highways, but it is possible to hit some crazy numbers.
I have to admit, Honda are really doing something right at the moment. We bought a CRV Hybrid last year which used exactly the same technology. It’s a brilliant car and we love it
My 2016 2 liter normally does 5.3 liters every 100 kms.
It was just under 20 k cdn.
I love it.
My 2017 Elantra did 5.9 every 100km not bad but I’m jealous now about Hondas
@Nuno Barcelos when coming back to nova scotia where I'm from. I took a picture of my dash. 45 liter tank. I did 689 kms and it said I had 212 kms to go.
Driving at 100 kms.
Elantra is a great car too.
My Ram EcoDiesel does 7.1 liter every 100kms. 280hp/480 lbft
@@Nowageopolityka that is awesome.
I think it's proper engine management with a wide band o2 sensor.
Driving properly and just relaxing while doing.
@@Nowageopolityka Not in the city you won't.
I got a 2022 accord with the same powertrain, it’s insanely fun to drive despite not having a 2 sec 0-60, but hit some switchbacks and sharp corners in sport mode, the car drives like its on rails, mine is super quiet when just cruising and I get a full tank and 520 miles of range for $36
But how does this civic get 80mpg if it is the same powertrain as the Accord Hybrid. Even the Insight didn't get over 60mpg.
@@igloozoo3771 In the UK: 1 imperial gallon = 1.20095 US gallon, therefore this would be still respectable 66 mpg, and he was driving very slow (
@@igloozoo3771 I've got a 2021 Accord Hybrid EX model and in the summer I average in the mid 60s for mostly rural back road driving similar to this video's roads so factor that along with the imperial gallon equation and a few pounds lighter than the larger accord and I can see it happening. I looked at the civic hybrid option at the same time I chose the hybrid accord. The bang for the buck just seemed much better with the accord. $31K out the door at the time for a 212HP 0-60mph (6.9s) that could sip gas when i need it which is most of the time which is why I drive a hybrid anyways. Just really fun to once in awhile drop it into sports mode and feel like you're in a different car. Huge improvement over my previous car (2007 Civic Hybrid) that I could get around 50mpg and 0-60 was something like 12-13 seconds.
@@wernerdaghofer4056 I have a 2021 EXL Accord and I drove 13 miles in horirble traffic really slowly and I ended up with 85 mpg.
Remember that US and Imperial gallons are different by about 20%, so the quoted figure of 55-80 mpg is about 45-65 mpg in the US. Still impressive.
The volume knob is also a welcomed feature.
Along with A/C knobs.
Can't believe how expensive cars have got! The manufacturers don't want us to buy the car, just finance it.
All this technology isnt cheap
Yeah it's crazy, I have always bought 3 year old cars in cash but that's not realistic now at these prices.
@@sugarrfree All this technology has been around for years and years.
Honda,Nissan and Toyota used to sell those special sports cars by losing money. I.e. their cost as a whole was more than the profit. Now they changed the strategy because now Japanese cars like Honda and Toyota are known for making sports car. That's why GR Yaris and GR Carolla are expensive and profitable enough to keep producing those cars.
I've only watched this video and the FL5 video. Kinda blew my mind the difference in highlighted features based on target audience. Great work.
The Honda Civic is just the best, all the daily car you could ever need, and it's even nice! This is one of my favorite daily cars out there!
For sure!! This and the new Legacy are incredible daily’s
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. Yes, but I understand it a little since most of the time you don't have the engine noise to mask it like on normal cars 🤔
@@jjm2948 definitely! 😩🙌🏻
@@BlingJ. You've copied and pasted this exact reply multiple times. Get over it
Rory - Great, well done review. Also a great ambassador for Auto Trader. Top of your game - Very entertaining.
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...first Honda....in a very long time....thats impressed me!! And that for me is saying a lot Rory! Nice review.
I have a 2013 Toyota Aqua (PriusC) and it still gets 60+ mpg easily. It's due a new battery shortly however, so once I replace that - expect the MPG to improve. I love this new civic, Honda are really knocking it out of the park lately.
I had the same car but 2014
Never saw anything over 50mpg
Would love an estate version of this car
It's good to see that Honda is coming back strong in the Hybrid game. I have an old 2008 Civic hybrid that I've been driving for the past couple years. It really only excels at long distance driving. Currently, it's winter and it's been snowing a lot. It's even snowing right now. So with this weather and my car being parked in the shade of our house and needing to run the heat, it gets pretty terrible mileage driving around town. But on those long distance drives, I can get under 5L per 100km. Too bad I don't go far that often. Maybe in a decade I'll be able to get one of these. XD
i have a 2003 civic hybrid and its absolutely killing it in this year's new england winter, its fun to drive to since it comes from a time before all hybrids were automatic transmission.
New to Autotrader, really good presenter, he made a video about a car I wouldn't normally be interested in, and I enjoyed the whole thing.
Awesome review.. thanks for your review I and owning and driving around in a Honda Cicic e:HEV Advance! I and so happy and great full.
This Honda civic is super brilliant. I love it and it's a really wonderful looking car! So much nicer than an SUV! It's too bad though about the expensive price as I'd buy one straight away and it's also a bit of a shame they can't keep the manual gearbox like some other manufacturers, unless you get the even more expensive Civic Type R. I do wish they were a little cheaper for us to buy, and I hope honda will keep the civic as long as possible!
In the US we still have the manual, strangely enough. I have the Si which is the upgraded 200hp 1.5l turbo model with a 6 speed manual, but you can get the regular model with a manual as well.
Also it's funny how just a few inches in hight can make all the difference. I'm 6'4 and was considering the new Civic as a second, daily runabout car. But there's no way an adult could sit behind my driving position comfortably.
you say you wish honda will keep the civic, and yet you refuse to buy one. If you actually want car manufacturers to succeed and survive, then you need to actually buy their cars when they hit home runs.
It needs the automatic gears to automatically manage the power distribution and switching between ICE and EV modes. That involves quite a bit of work - you wouldn't enjoy driving if you had to do all of that manually, it's actually quite brilliant how hybrids manage this so smoothly.
@@SilverScarletSpider yeah but broke sooo
We need this in Canada !!! Come on Honda Canada !!! 😃 Nice review 😃
My friend. This was an excellent video review you have done. That was amazing, please make more like this. I will buy one of these love the car. I had my eye on a honda accord but the civic looks like the one.
In town I only get 35mpg from my golf estate 7.5 1.5tsi but then it only cost me 20k and does over 50 on long runs. 80mpg is insane but the sums don't add up to change right now. Next time round though it'll be a contender for sure. Best hatch right now I think. Its got to make you think about electric cars too. With that economy and high electricity prices it'll cost not much more without any of the inconvenience of charging. Honda has listened to feedback too and kept controls for heating etc.
Another great review...👍🔝
Such a well resolved and engineered car. The price isn't too bad when you consider what you're getting.
Nice work, Honda, thanks for sharing. Impressive comments.
I didn't know about this. Thanks for the treasure information.
No Rory, they have missed one BIG thing, which is plug-in capability (with a slightly bigger battery pack). Today, LFP battery costs are just $150/kWh. The Prius Prime has nailed it with an 8.8 kWh pack and a plug-in inlet. C'mon Honda, think of what Soichiro would have done. Atleast put in a 5 kWh pack and a plug. Then all the urban driving becomes electric and all the highway driving on petrol. That would be perfect.
Rory, fantastic review. The welcome return of hatchbacks. Why would anyone buy an SUV? This is nigh on the car any family could want or indeed need. Thank you.
Nice to see more and more people not liking SUVs like me, very nice.
Hatchbacks will always be superior over the Crossover/SUV segment. My GF Sister had a Renault Kadjar thing and I couldn’t believe how small the boot was!
Basically an SUV gives a false sense of "safety" where sitting higher feels safer, that's what makes normal buyers lean towards the crossover SUVs.
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@davidckj1 This is just your opinion. I am on my second SUV and one of the benefits of it being a bit higher up is that it’s much - and I mean MUCH - easier for my partner and elderly family members to get in and out of it. It also has a massive boot. It’s a mid-size SUV so the car isn’t huge and is still easy to park. I don’t really understand the hate towards them.
Dear Friend...I have been the proud owner of the Honda CR-V Hybrid, 2ltr Auto, for just over 9 Months, this has the same Engine as the new CIVIC..,simply outstanding would be an understatement. Obviously the combined weight of the CR-V exceeds that of the CIVIC, taking this aside can you believe that I am "averaging" 48 to 56 mpg, also Outstanding. Is this one of the most efficient Engines currently on the open market...I truly believe that it is. STAY SAFE...,G.A.R.
Need Civic has killed it. I swore I would never buy another Honda but they beat me into submission with this model. Would love to see this come to the US.
I think the new Accord has this drivetrain in the US, which could be up your street.
Honestly really impressed with how the steering and actual drive feels with these 11th generation civics.
Great review Rory
I had a manual drive Civic many years ago when I was young. Fun car to drive and so economical
I see people comment on the whole "pocket behind the passenger seat and not the driver" all the time. It is a map pocket. It is in reach of the driver from his seat while driving. If the driver's seat has one too, that's a bonus.
I love this. For real this is actually amazing
Yeah, it seems like a lot of money, but it's a Honda. I still daily drive my Civic EJ9 hatch from 1998, still going strong. Compare that to any german car, where everything starts to implode after 5-10 years, if you are lucky.
i drive a 2003 opel meriva. still drives really good
I still have a 1998 Accord Coupe 2.0 ES manual ! It has just Passed its MOT with no notifications 👍 great quality car
I get on my 2023 Honda Civic sport touring Manual transmission 7.8/100km it's amazing!
Rory I just love watching you and your reviews. Very informative and entertaining. As always you Bodie this review bro. 😍 I peep the airmax 95's lol
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. I understand that you liked the Civic but don’t like the road noise esp. at this pricepoint. But what other cars which provide such sporty driving experience combined with space, practicality and fuel economy of a civic at this price point? If something exists in your market which can compete with a Civic, let us know. In EU, there is none.
The only option if u want to stick to civic ehev is to replace that sporty michelins to a silent Nokians.
Cars are improving, and they will continue to improve. I think when building a product for a consumer the car has to be structurally strong, safe, quiet and efficient. That’s just my opinion on the matter. I’ve driven japanese cars in europe, and they were totally different than American cars - they have more sound insulation. I remember my father driving a Mazda 626. It was very quiet, even the engine noise was drastically reduced. On the highway you almost couldn’t hear the engine at all. That’s how perfectly they were made back in the day. Now currently I drive a 2014 Nissan sentra which was made in Mexico. The cabin fills up with engine noise, road noise. And many other noises it makes. Ride quality sucks. I am thinking to switching to Honda Passport, because my car is just that noisy. Replaced the Catalytic converter on it not too long ago, after a month started making more noise. I go like: I give up. I can’t do this anymore. Too much money wasted. So I drive it doing oil changes and other fluid changes but nothing more, everything costs hundreds of dollars. The last thing I need is the engine lock up, or transmission failure, and I am back in business - to the scrap yard. I want to switch to a Honda because everyone says that those cars are very reliable. My uncle had a honda civic for 20+ years with few issues, until finally it blew a piston and was not able to start. The car was worth almost nothing because of how many years he had it. He took it to tha scrap yard. A car is a big investment, my family says. Well I hope they don’t mind riding in a Nissan with a lot of noise. Lol 😂. For me personally it drives me nuts. I can’t stand the noise. Lol. But currently gotta drive what I’ve got. There’s no shortcuts for me. Haha 😛 Thank you for reading the comment. I try to include as many details as possible so I wouldn’t sound offensive to others.
That’s insane. I have a sportage HEV and my average is 32mpg. I do love the instant electric torque and turbo engine.
What? I have a Camry TRD V6 and it gets 30MPG. That's insane that you're getting such poor mileage in an HEV.
@@T-rey sportage is a mid size suv
@sordidloam I know what a Sportage is I've been in one before and 32 miles per gallon for a hybrid sucks!
@@ddm62571 I’d kill for 32 in my Telluride!
@@ddm62571 You don't compare SUVs to normal cars in efficiency, SUV is higher so always less mpg. Not a fan of sportage cuz I only buy japanese cars. Just saying 30+ on Hybrid SUV is quite normal, rarely do you get over 40 but SUV is so much better in comfort and ground clearance.
no more picking from Camry to pruis, this is hands down the best looking & performance vehicle. Great work on honda, can't wait for the release in the usa, am totally buying one.
Nice review. Thank you.
80MPG (UK gallons, around 67MPG in US gallons) is not particularly unusual for a hybrid powertrain, given (1:51) optimal temperatures without much starting and stopping, and especially, below 30MPH. The Prius PHV (North-American name “Prius Prime”) achieves that, operating as a hybrid. The engine is off ~3/4 of the time under those conditions.
Slight correction: 80 US Gallons are aproximately 67 Imperial Gallons.
1 US Gallon = 3.785 liters vs 1 Imperial Gallon = 4.54609
@@HeronCalaris, OK, yes, it would have been clearer if I’d said, “80MPG ( *_in_* UK gallons, or around 67 in US gallons)…”
Honda absolutely nailed it, well done 👏👏
Glad there is some road sound as it gives connectivity to the ground textures, visceral experience and sensation. Makes you feel alive and driving not disinterested, out of touch with reality like driving a simulation.
The system in this car is very similar to my Plug-in Hybrid Chevy Volt. Insanely good fuel economy and very practical. These are the best of both worlds.
I am driving it this week and not so true. I did motorways at 120 km/h for 6.3 l/100km, today at 160 km/h for 7.4 l/100km, in the city it is really good at 3.8 l/100km tho. Otherwise great non-performance hatchback for dads who still want to have fun driving. Fantastic streering, seating position and beautifly balanced chassis.
That the efficiency is amazing in the city, but a lot worse on the highway is something very common with hybrids and electric cars. Going highway speeds just means pushing a lot of air out of the way and overcoming rolling resistance. You simply can't beat the laws of physics. The only way to get mileage a lot better than 5l/100k (highway) is to have a smaller car with less weight and air resistance or to switch to a more efficient diesel engine.
What did u expect? Hybrids are designed to be driven in towns not motorways
Autocar India tested the Honda City Hybrid driving at a constant 60 kmph and got 97 mpg. 1000 km on 29L of fuel. So no the best mileage speed is 60 kmph
@@sugarrfreeBut people buy Hybrids (and probably in overall cars) to save fuel overall. So 6.3L/100km for 120kmh is quite annoying. Id say its fine if it does well at 100kmh.
But you always know, us German love speeding on Autobahns :D
That's impressive. I don't even believe you can do 160km/h for 7.4L/100km. It's simple inconceivable due to wind resistance. Also whoever saying hybrid cars get worse efficiency at highway speeds are wrong.
Not anymore and all cars suffer because wind resistance is squared by speed.
Currently own a FK8. Thought i would test drive the Civic E HEV out of curiosity. Well getting my Advance in Blue hopefully end of this month. Really impressed with the performance, handling and comfort. The twelve speaker Bose system will deal with any road noise.😁 Just a correction the car you are driving is the sport which retails at £33720 not £36000 as you stated. The advanced is £36375, which comes with leatherette seats both heated/electric and heated steering wheel.
Are you getting a new FL5 Honda Civic Type R too?
I've got the Sport in blue and paid £25995 in Gibraltar. I've already done just under 12000mi in 4 and a half months.
@@ant647448336 Good price a lot cheaper than here in the UK. That's some serious mileage.😁
@@SilverScarletSpider No because of the ridiculous price increase, 40% more expensive than my FK8 that's in the UK, but certainly not 40% better. I was truly impressed with the EHEV and looking forward to having some fun with it.
@@greymark420 goes from Gibraltar to Malaga a few times a month. Am driving from Gib to Barcelona, Toulouse, Madrid and Zaragoza in April. That'll put another 2500 miles on it 😂
My efficient little 2016 Honda Fit driven smoothly gets between 55-60mpg (imperial) and it only cost me $16,000Cdn (2 years old when I bought it). Even though I have solar panels on the roof of my house going for an EV or even a Hybrid EV still does not make sense for me. I jokingly say I have a hillbilly hybrid (ICE car with a bicycle on the back rack for city commuting). Keep up the great work and reviews. Dave
A bit off topic but I used to get 37 mpg w/87 civic hatchback @ 80 mph w the a/c blasting. We should always expect great things from Honda!
I've got a 2016 civic tourer that does 45 mpg if I drive quickly everywhere but I regularly gets 55+mpg just driving casually on mixed roads up to 65mph. So I will stick with mine thanks. I enjoy your reviews though. 👍
Yep, I have the hatch 1.6 idtec, i'm getting 68mpg no probs around country lanes and in the summer 73 plus driven smoothly. Did a mad trip from Aberdeenshire to Penzance, Cornwall then to Aylesbury, Bucks and back up over Christmas in a few days and hit 74mpg.....amazing...70 mph most of the way. It has had me reassessing the cost of holidays, since I got it. It's so reliable, too, I have no idea why more were't sold in the past.
@@itsallrobbish I know. They are like the best car ever from my perspective. I don't even fear the MOT. 👍
What an amazing car ! Loving the Rory reviews!
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
the best car for the money, and there are no noises that interfere
The answer to road noise is get the already very well equiped base spec Elegance car with 17" wheels, mine came with Michelin Primacy tyres and the road noise is very acceptable and the ride is better than the sport on 18" wheels. The demonstrator was a sport with 18" wheels and rode a good deal firmer. Only problem is Honda are not currently taking orders for the Elegance.
My only niggles are things that turn themselves off (like the brake hold) when the ignition is tuned off. Also the regen braking adjustment paddles that only stay on for a while and then turn off (in Normal mode - WHY ?. (It does not do it in Sport mode) . Also you can turn off some of the irritating safety warnings in the menus and they come back on next time you restart the car. I live on a narrow lane and the car keeps bonging and flashing each time it senses the grass verges.
Otherwise, its a brilliant car. Mine also came with 5years free servicing.
1:24 just a wild guess here but f1 learnings trickling down to consumer products is so cool
A true high efficiency vehicle is indeed a performance vehicle! It’s prioritized towards efficiency in lieu of all out speed.
Great use of gasoline-electric transmission! Reminds me of diesel trains, which are efficient due to this kind of setup. But wished it still did plug in for those who have EV chargers at work.
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
It does only have a 1kwh battery it would probably fully charge the first
Time you slowed down.
Its not gasoline-electric. The engine for the most part drives the wheels directly.
What the Civic has was already in the 3rd generations Prius 14 years ago.
Full hybrid? Yes.
2 electric motors? Yes.. 2 motor generators.
And the same THS powered the Prius C, the Lexus CT200h, RX450h, as well as thr Auris.
I drive veloster N and I could care less about my milage, however in eco mode on cruise control I get around 30 mpg if I ever want it. Not bad for 300 whp little VN
Looks fantastic. This hyrbid is a fantastic option. Hopefully more companies come on board with this sort of power trains. Suspect interior suffers due to cost of car and the tech which is in the engine bay.
Toyota says hi. Their hybrid system is pretty much the same since the first Prius debuted. Yes, one engine 2 motors is what Toyota has been doing for over 2 decades.
Old 25 yo tech 😂
@@bdeithrick doesn't stop some journos 'discovering' this tech though 😂
@@TsLeng haha, thanks for clearing this. I have the 22 Rav4 hybrid which gives me almost 38mpg and I definitely drive slightly above the speed limit. I was scratching my head thinking what the hell is different between my car and this one.
@@05gauravs is the US mpg? If UK, I think you are driving a bit more than a bit above speed limit lol.
But then, my 2.0 turbo petrol Skoda can only achieve at most 38mph driving AT the speed limit so....
Excellent presentation.
Rory-great, well done review. Also a great ambassador for auto trader
The power flow display is for training how to get the most out of it, not just curiosity. And it has an eco driving mode too.
Huge respect to Japanese cars 👌👌👌👌
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. what brand of tyres come fitted on this vehicle?
@8rick1ane those are Michelins..? Perhaps one needs to try another brand
@@Bharat005 I put Bridestone Turanza Serenity Plus tyres on my Accord (which are more expensive than PS4s). You get performance but with a whisper quiet ride.
@@keynesianeconomics4113 My Subaru legacy came with Bridgestones, replaced with Pirelli when due, only to find Pirelli became noisier after 10, 000 kms
But how accurate is the in car computer for the mpg?
at 8m46 "the last question to ask: is it fun?"
Plenty of other questions to be asked include "why would I spend £36K on a highly optimised ICE, when the same price gets me a BEV?"
If people can't/won't adapt to electric driving, with lower cruising speeds and longer charging time, then yes, this Civic looks as efficient as petrol ICE might get. If the buyer is really interested in efficiency, they really need to adapt their driving to a PHEV or BEV.
The fun factor really should not be an obstacle in the way to reduced emissions from transportation.
I have one since 2 weeks. It’s really great
You've got to clap the Honda engineers. They tick so many boxes listen to their customers and reliability will be second to none 👏👏👏
Honda has always been the forefront of innovation. Coming to the Civic, Its Simple, Refined, Top class tech for the mid-sedan segment. If you have a little knowledge of the tech you can really achieve 65 to 73 mpg without struggling. The only catch here is the price point.
Love just about everything about this car, but if it comes to the US without the option of ventilated seats and a heated steering wheel, I'll probably buy a Prius. Honda needs to include these features at least on top trims.
Thank you honda for giving us back the dials for volume and AC I absolutely hate the little volume buttons on the previous gen civic
You also get android auto wireless too by going into settings and activating it. I have the same car, and on semi regular runs to York, I still get 55 MPG sat at 75 with the adaptive cruise and lane assist on. oh and the adaptive headlights are good too, as long as youve actually removed all the road dirt and cleaned them.... Must remember to do that soon.
how noisy is it really on the motorway?
@@tomlockwoodbartlett it isn't noisy on the motorway. Maybe Rory has got used to his gold plated Roller being quieter.
@@markd5063 cool. what were you in before?
@@tomlockwoodbartlett have had a Honda jazz and a plug in hybrid Kia sportage.the press raved about how economical this car was but it was all lies.
What? Where is the setting for android auto wireless? They told me it doesn't have one.
Love these cars. The hrv is awesome as well. I still thing the ionic is slightly better though.
The Ioniq is a great car, but I found the seats to be uncomfortable. for that reason it's always good to have options. The civic seems to be a very good alternative
Can’t wait for this to come to the states. Definitely at the top of my list. I just feel like it’s going to be hard to get one.
The thoughtful design for UX is admirable.
Is that 80mpg taken from the dashboard?
I would rather trust tank fill to fill and calculate from the petrol pump.
Beautiful car as always from Honda. I love my Civic as well and can never go back.
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
Good review AutoTrader team!!
I think I’ll go for the M5 CS, the Honda dosent tick every box quite yet specifically with that back end
This will most likely be my first car. I'm excited
If money was no issues, I would get that BMW M3 Touring.
Worth noting is that there’s no transmission. The only way the engine can directly power the wheels is in highway speeds, its equivalent to a transmission being stuck in the highest gear (overdrive), otherwise the electric motors do the actual moving, which makes for a far more simple and reliable driveline vs slush boxes and cvts. Not as reliable as a BEV, but as close as ICEVs get
My Toyota RAV4 2016 hybrid has a 2.4 litre engine and electronic AWD (turns on only when needed) and it gets around 40 mpg nearly every trip, if not more. I’m the cold months (I only bought it in October) it’s seen no more than 350 miles per tank (around £60 ish to fill full), I’m hoping for over 400 miles when the weather warms up.
Ok, this is quite cool. Even when adjusted, this gets better fuel efficiency than my motorcycle used to...
Japanese cars never cease to amaze me.
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. yea I deal with it
@@BlingJ. I drive a Vulva suv and it makes a lot more noise than this babe.
@Front 242 i like vehicles which make very less road noise with beautiful interior and snappy pulll
@@BlingJ. That's an easy fix though, especially if you do it yourself.
This is the type of hybrid I can get behind. We are not ready for fully electric and won't be for decades at this rate.
road noise is totally unacceptable for this much money spent
@@BlingJ. I agree that it should have better noise proofing at that price point. But I can get past it for that kind of MPG. I might even upgrade the noise proofing myself. Honda might even make it better in later versions if enough people say something about it.
@@BlingJ. How do you know that? Noise level is subjective. He also didn't provide an interior cabin disable level either.
There are also other options folks. I recently purchased a new BRZ and was unhappy with the road noise when I took a road trip. I ended up adding sound deadening bought from amazon in the matter of a few hours
That’s just objectively not true. Electric cars are already good enough for what most people require them for
I have a 2022 Toyota Avalon XSE Hybrid and I absolultey love it! Yjese are very similar except mine is 10k more, but worth it IMO for a full size. Summer I get about 42 and winter I get low 30s.
I tried this here in Berlin, the driver seating position is too low for me. Still tempting one with all features !