HEISER Vs. ROGAN - Enoch, Anunnaki, & the Apkallu
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- Welcome to another episode of Ring Them Bells.
We exist to help you recover the Bible on its own terms. We found that the supernatural focus of the Bible has been suppressed and we’re bringing that back into the light with interviews and content from great scholars like NT Wright Tim Mackie of the BibleProject and our featured scholar today Dr Michael Heiser. Joe Rogan constantly sites Zechariah Chen’s work as trustworthy and invaluable to understanding all of human history. Our resident scholar Dr. Michael Heiser did quite a bit of work studying through the claims of Zechariah work and I am excited to let you see what he found.
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1) Heiser reversing Hermon- • Michael Heiser Rever...
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It's Zechariah Sitchin, not Chen.
I miss Dr Michael Heiser so much. 💔
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Same! 🙋🏻♂️❤️🔔
Something tells me that Mike lacks for nothing and would encourage us to be bold for Christ in these final days! 🕎❤️✝️
He left so much content for us ❤️
Absolutely
I once had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Heiser. A very nice man, and one with integrity. God rest him.
RIP. Dr. Heiser. You were a gift from the Lord, in whom you now dwell. You are missed. We will see you soon my brother in Yeshua
Dr Michael Heiser and Dr Chuck Missler - both IMO are scholars & teachers that need to be heard.
I loved Missler that at the core of everything he taught demonstrated he was anchored in scripture. Also, unlike so many other Biblical teachers, Missler gave credit to where he got the information! Also Chuck’s rabbit trails into dimensions and ancient rabbis.
Agreed, but for a more rounded picture add Derick Prince for the spiritual element.
So what dopey alot of so called “scholars and scientists” are full of crap lol brought and paid for muppets 😳🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Amen! Genesis and the big bang was amazing. Missler was on another level scholastically for sure.
Deep wells of wisdom and understanding
Heiser will be missed. He was the best at making sense of difficult texts
I, too, have observed Joe Rogan’s journey to the Creator, the almighty God. We should pray that his journey continues and ends at the feet of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
Amen!
And Amen !! 🙏 🙏🙏
When you refer to “god” do you mean YHWH the storm god of the Canaanites?
@@TheJonnyzeus No Yahweh the God of the Israelites, the God of Jacob, the God of Abraham. The Father of Jesus and creator of the whole universe.
@@ringthembells143 …the same guy!
I'm so excited for the Michael Heiser documentary that you're producing! Let us know how we can help and when it will be available
Me too🙋🏻♂️ We appreciate your support ❤️ Stay Tuned, more info coming out soon🔔
Heiser had a ten year open challenge to Sitchin for a debate over Sitchin's work that went unanswered up to Sitchin's death.
Photo of Sitchin in a line-up with Freemason buddies, all in ceremonial garb, leaves no doubt of his affiliations.
Awesome insights, thanks for sharing that 👍❤️🔔
Widely known ... duh.
@@Ridethebomb777 Well now you are Rudely known, Duh🔔
@@ringthembells143 Glad you like it !
@@Ridethebomb777 No worries and nothing but love!
I always wished Rogan would come across Dr Heiser’s work and would have invited him on. I’m so grateful for Dr. Heiser’s work. It has impacted my life and study so much.
I hope he still doess get into heisers work! The man may have departed physically but he left behind a beautiful amount of research ;)
SAME
@@TheArmchairPriest Agree! Joe’s fascination with aliens and ancient civilizations would be challenged and inspired the more he digs into Heiser’s work.
So grateful God showed all this truth to Dr Heiser...changed my life...never read the Bible the same after that...feel closer to the Word than ever before!❤❤❤❤
Amen 🙏
I'm a Catholic and am happy to remain so but when I hear Heiser speak I listen closely and file what he says away in my mind. For me, he is an authority with regard to the type of arcane matters this video contains.
Love this ✔️👍❤️
Sucks to be a Catholic in Protestant USA huh?
This guy is so mistaken. Sitchen didn't translate anything. But Paul Wallis did and came up with the same story as sitchen. And they do talk about crafts they took.
@@cool2492 provide one line and Heiser’s claims go away. That’s what he went out searching for someone to show him. No one could produce one single solitary shred of evidence. Heiser did his homework, Stitchin DID NOT
CATHOLISM IS CULT, THE WORSE THING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.
I too miss Mike! But I think a big part of why God gave him his glory and rest in places that he had done all he can and, kind of like Moses, he sent him somewhere else because he didn’t want him to be idolized; but wanted his work to carry on and continue to glorify God. That may be really silly and wrong of me. I love the guy wish you was still here. But sometimes we have to do our part with the great work done by those who are gone. Anyway thanks Mike. I love you, brother.
Appreciate that you’re tying modern deceit, that Jesus warned His followers about, to scripture & Michael Heiser who truly wore the Full Armor of God.
Haters gonna hate. But I still love you❤️🔔
I hate to tell you but the name Jesus is far from the hebrew name he given whilst walking on earth. His name is in Our Fathers name. In fact He said He came in His Fathers name. His Fathers name YHWH, the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.Our Saviour was not greek, nor was the letter J even invented. Time to use critical thinking. His name is important. If you call on the wrong name, will you be saved???
Maybe I missed something, but when did he give any other explanations apart from saying "they are wrong"? I believed I would have obtained inspirations and clarity, but I just heard a person neglecting a Thesis without explaining where the mistakes are. Furthermore, he also makes a huge mistake speaking about Angels and saying they have no terrestrial needs: in Geneys 8, when Yahweh and other 2 angels go to Abraham in the desert , they are hungry and thirsty and Abraham amd Sarah give them bread and a cooked lamb.
Very very disappointed from this video.
Gid be with you all
Rest in Peace Dr. Heiser..Praise be to our LORD Yeshua the Anointed One for forgiveness and grace. Amen. 🙂🙏✝️🕎✡🇺🇸🇮🇱❤
Amen 🙏
Collective Biblical psychopathology is what Israel is today. Shame on you. You support genocidal maniacs
I can not say enough of great statements about Michael Heiser...don't understand why we have to lose the great ones...
Jonathan Kleck channel blows them both out of the water. He Always brings the Word of GOD too. You can't debunk him if you try. I believe everything in the Bible and it's all in there.❤
If you like Heiser, I highly recommend L.A. Marzulli and Chuck Missler. Praise the Lord!
That moment, to be absent from the body, is to be present (in spirit) with the Lord. 💨 He's in Paradise. ❤☝️😎 Reunion 🫂 in Heaven.
Blessed Reunion Indeed ❤️🔔👍
i was unaware that Dr. Heiser had passed away. I love his work especially concerning Mt. Hermon. I liked and subscribed immediately. This stuff is right down my alley thank you so much for your channel.
Michael Heiser was an earthly treasure !
“Nothing new under the sun.” We’re still there… or, we’re back there again; “Everything old is new again.”
Michael Heiser was a naturally brilliant human being!
I am entirely obsessed with Dr. Heiser's work - he was a true man of God, a gem.
Same 🙋🏻♂️🔔❤️✔️
Exciting news. I love your program.
Thank you, That really means a lot✔️🔔❤️
I think it’s important as Christians that we get to discuss these revelations together since it can be challenging for our faith, but it may lead us to the truth.
I loved Michael Heiser’s teaching on this subject. Honestly, I don’t care about Joe and Terrence’s discussion, I skipped all their segments and only listened to Heiser.
Heiser was on top of anything Sitchin produced. He even offered to debate him but Sitchin never accepted the opportunity.
Facts!
Dr Mike is the one that helped me understand the Bible a lot more. His best saying is if it sounds weird, it's important. The man is right. We have lost a great Biblical teacher. He is missed, and called home.
Still praying Joe accepts Jesus Christ. 🙏
I read most of the Zecheriah Sitchin series a couple of decades ago or so. I came to two conclusions.
1. This guy could write better science fiction than many science fiction writers.
2. What impressed me was he could thouroughly debunk many of the orthodox theories of the past, especially those built on shaky foundations that are occasionally brought to light to the embarrassment of supposed experts.
So, we still have a lot of digging to do. Believe it or not, Dorothy, academia does not have all the answers.
take care
rwmccoy
@robertmccoy9323 what did Sitchin actually debunk 🤔
Gold is a great conductor as is silver and copper. They had tech in Noah's day just not sure what it was; interesting.
They had the advantage of supernatural beings directly giving them information.
I remember thinking when I first heard of Enoch book and I thought if the “watchers” knew such things to teach, then those teachings came from wherever they came from and knew and used such knowledge and even before they taught mankind so it must have been a ok to know such skills.
Gold is great for making jewelry. Salt not so much. Gold is also a fantastic conductor, it doesn’t tarnish at all. Very useful gold is. Of course gold is the most popular currency.
I wish Dr. Michael S. Heiser would have went onto Joe Rogans show and explained the Truth & exposed Zachariah
Same 🙋🏻♂️❤️✌️
God does not leave Himself without a witness, so many getting deceived by the ancient astronaut garbage. Thank God for Heiser
Amen 🙏
Why dont someone play all Michael Heisers Podcast series . It's a fantastic teachings ❤ . Great teacher & lecturer.
For those who believe in the Bible , You say Amen after every prayer right? Look into why . You are giving thanks to Amen ra an dieti among other in the sumerian tablets. It was mandatory the the non elite said this and thanked him for everything they have or else they would be extinguished. Yet we are told it is a coincidence but has no connection to amen in the hebrew scripture.
Lord Jesus is Everything for me ❤❤❤
that's because you haven't met God yet ; he's much greater .
Using A.I. Here is a summary and outline of the video transcript:
Summary:
In the TH-cam video "HEISER Vs. ROGAN - Enoch, Anunnaki, & the Apkallu," biblical scholar Dr. Michael Heiser discusses and challenges the claims made by Zecharia Sitchin about the Anunnaki, an alleged extraterrestrial civilization that created humans according to Sumerian texts. Heiser emphasizes the importance of understanding the human element of inspiration in the Bible and critically evaluating sources. The conversation also covers the Enoch story, the corrupting influence of knowledge, and the misinterpretation of the Bible passage in Genesis 6:1-4 regarding extraterrestrial beings.
Outline:
I. Introduction
A. Zecharia Sitchin's claims about the Anunnaki and human evolution
B. Dr. Michael Heiser challenges Sitchin's claims
II. The Bible and ancient Sumerian and Babylonian texts
A. The Enoch story and the Watchers
B. The human element of inspiration in the Bible
III. The corrupting influence of technology and knowledge in the Enoch text
A. Advanced knowledge given to humans by the Watchers
B. The flood narrative as a solution to wickedness on Earth
IV. The Anunnaki and their relationship to Enoch
A. Anunnaki as mid-level deities in Babylonian culture
B. Jewish perspective on the Anunnaki's knowledge as forbidden and immoral
V. Zecharia Sitchin's claims about the Anunnaki and Nibiru
A. Lack of evidence in ancient texts to support Sitchin's claims
B. Concern over the deception of the public by such narratives
VI. Ancient stories of advanced beings engineering humans
A. Similar stories found in various civilizations worldwide
B. Destruction of information by powerful entities
VII. Misinterpretation of the Bible passage in Genesis 6:1-4
A. Traditional reading vs. ancient alien theorists' interpretation
B. Dr. Heiser's experience at a UFO conference
VIII. Conclusion
A. Encouragement to critically evaluate sources and engage in thoughtful discussions
B. Gratitude to the audience for their support and engagement
Have you heard of the Bible-Scholar here? He's old enough to beat me in knowledge I think. I've lived more away from a computer at work. He seems way smarter than me but what his knowledge is about is visible and I see it.
I’ve read through Dr Heiser’s Why Sitchens is wrong blog in which he encourages to read the translated cuneiform tablets. In only reading the first two poems it states “returning to Nibiru “ . Translations that Michael Heiser failed to cite. There’s confirmation bias on both sides. 🙏🏽
Thank goodness there’s no music in the background during Dr. Heiser’s discussion. Almost stopped watching, but glad I didn’t swipe 😅. Just wish podcasters would stop with the loud background music. Not necessary as Dr. Heiser is definitely worth watching!
Seriously, though, Jefferson talked of America becoming corrupt when more people moved to Urban Areas/cities from Agrarian areas.
The Watchers giving these technological/esoteric/alchemical skills to humanity here ties into Babylon as both the city and its technological pinnacle in the Tower (symbolically and literally).
In his book, Unseen Realm, Heiser speaks on God separating his people and the lesser loyal gods/spiritual beings from those at Babylon. With the other nations, he confounds their languages and gives those other nations stemming from Babylon over to the lesser gods/spiritual beings/principalities and powers that do not honor the Covenant.
Back to Jefferson. Mental illness seems to cause forms of mass psychosis and sickness when populations coalesce to critical mass in technological cities/urban environments.
In Jonathan Cohn’s book, “Return of the Gods”, he speaks to the resurgence of the entities behind what seems to happen over and over…as these principalities and powers get influenced by the spirits, shedim, daimonia that are given free reign over nations outside of God’s protection and Covenant.
I've heard the evil spirits feed off of us like it was in the movie ghost busters. My timeline is behind schedule and I missed seeing it but I get it now.
The problem with the cities and technological societies is one side of the story.
Where did Babylon came from?
Who initiated sumerian culture?
How come so many biblical stories are rewritten, millenia old storries from mesopotamia and Egypt?
Confounding of languages must have been a result of the fall of empires, engaged in blood thirsty conquer, along with the corruption of power and possibly, with the inside work of the priest castes...but more importantly, why did Bible imply the Gods - Elohim were afraid, or insecure with the threat of humanity gaining an access to immortality without the help/approval of Gods/Elohim.
The fact that Bible mention this kind of motive in relation to the 'God' is shocking on it's own, and very often, left in silence by so many so called 'experts' who work as enforcers of a dogma, that feed of the blind faith in what is being given to the mass population by the power of authority and religious establishement as the foundation of belief.
@@markeon9146 you lost the timeline that explains exactly what you're talking about. The controlling pope only had what they teach barely altered into more of what people were seeking. It's why I'm not lost. Look at these two, there's more. I'm not done with them yet. Bible Scribe, My Lunch Break
@@HellNoKamala the timeline is simple and doesn't require to be altered by storries of 'pyramids were built 13 thousand years ago', or that the authors of all civilisations were inhabitants of the underground in Antarctica...
Sumer (Mesopotamia ), Indus Valley, Egypt...some 5000 to 6000 thousand years ago something strange happened.
Civilisations rose very quickly, developped themselves extremely fast in compare to the previous timiline of human history, and showed evidence of vast level of sophistication on many levels.
An example from ancient Egypt would be it's unique form of writing...while there is evidence of some form of 'evolution' of the language in mesopotamia, the egyptian language appears to be fully developped right from the onset, as some say, it could have been the 'work of one person'...
How is that working?
And the context is that we are talking about a political entity that out of nowhere jumped out of the history of human affairs with the most spectacular of empires in the human history.
Those that traveled to Egypt and witnessed pyramids in Gizah, Saqqara, temples of Abydos, Dendera, Karnak, Luxor, Hatshepsut, Edfu, Kom Ombo, Isis, Abu Simbel...
Tombs in the valley of the Kings with it's unreal location, paintings of detailed astronomical journey of the soul...are impressed with the small percentage of the ruined 'empire' which in compare to many ancient civilisations should be called prehistoric...
In the times of Moses, pyramids of Saqqara and Gizah, or Memphis along with Thebes were already nearly 1500 years old...most of the modern european countries are younger than this!
When biblical storries were written, pyramids stood ( most likely already destroyed) for thousands of years, becoming long before a matter of speculation.
Egyptian civilisation at that time already experienced the times of prosperity, along with the times of chaos charactersied by rebelion, occupation, division, fall of the morale in society etc...
The only circle of knowledge ( hidden - occult ) were the circles of power - rulers and most likely even bigger power, that always performs so much of the power in the open but even more so, from the shadow - caste of priests with the highest level of the acces to the 'sacred knowledge'...
And it is the biggest suspect when it comes to any forms of 'transformation' that occurs in the history of human kind.
At the end of the day, historically, they claimed themselves that they were either an offspring to the heavenly gods, or they were the ones annoited by the divine powers from heaven.
Those that help them maintain this prehistoric system of the power on the planet- priests, only affirm their claims, titles and shapeshifting role.
It is them that are the authors of everything that happens on the major scale and affects nations, countries, empires.
Weather we like it or not, it is 'them' that gave humanity, or approved, all of the sacred writings.
@@markeon9146 the knowledge coming from some Elohim is what God was trying to prevent. The best way to our Spiritual side is as being like a child in learning and spirit. From what I've found the original Egyptians might not have been human. We just know that those on earth right now aren't kin to them possibly. Then there's one scene the Egyptians did that I've seen to show something being made..
Another is a large device that allows for men pulling a rope to move stone a couple of feet, they show. This ain't how it could ever have been done.
Nimrod could possibly have been Lucifer trying to get back to Heaven I've heard. They got their languages confused thanks to him.
At this time I think knowledge was limited and also the age we could live to.
We will need to get something carbon dated from up under the Sphinx or the pyramids to find their true age. They won't even think about it.
I appreciate your comment and so much has been buried on top of us.
You will learn from these two I promise, like you need to know... Bible Scribe and My Lunch Break - it describes them too.
It’s not about gold my brothers… It’s all about souls. Fallen angels should have interceded for THE MOST HIGHS CREATION and not HIS CREATION interceding for THE SONS OF GOD.
Great video! Subscribed because of this alone. Thank you! Keep the Truth coming, of The wonderful phenomenon of The Most High God and His Son! Great content brother!
Welcome Aboard. Glad to have you👍🔔❤️
I wish I had discovered him and attended his classes before he passed. I am grateful to have discovered him and his books at all times
The duo i never knew I needed!! RIP Dr. Heiser, you are a blessing to all. Thank you for your work!
@@hailey4334 Amen 🙏
Very succinct and logical, 'Word based' evaluation, of a vast quantity of material, respect, is the word that comes to mind, regarding the perspicacity of Dr Heiser...blessed and grateful for the priviledge of sharing this revealing video.Glory to GOD, thank you for your input, namaste'❤
Namaste 🙏
I’m confused I thought we were not supposed to use The book of Enoch as a reference for anything really, as it holds no truth?
Said who...the pope??? The pope is demonic, the whole catholic religion is. Why would you believe anythimg that comes out of that abomination that calls itself a religion
Could you have someone read out loud your written words onscreen for those who are blind or almost blind?
Most of the time they correlate exactly to what I’m saying or is being said. But I’ll see what I can do✌️❤️🔔
I just started watching and I am pleased about your choices for this video. Dr. Heiser is a brilliant expert. Joe Rogan is a media personality. Not a bad guy but he's owned.
Gd work guys this stuff is usually over my head but it was easy to grab thx very informative
If you’re that smart where you can make a race of creatures that die, eat and sleep yet you can make robots. Stitchin liked to claim he basically had the correct Translation and the earlier translations that was kind wrong. Most earlier religions connected gold to the sun. and a lot of early religions started with sun worship or there’s also ancestor worship, which honestly speaking, feels like Enok has this ancestral worship also.
Joe Rogan is coming around though. He's having more Biblical conversations and Christian guests on his show.
I'm praying that he give his life to Jesus in the near future.
Yes! Finally! Can’t wait to see the documentary.
Its because our language resonate, beliefs, education etc kept us connected to our source, our soul. The indigenous peoples.
From Babel it was the complete reset.
I wish someone would do a historical breakdown of the people who had written languages: the Egyptians, Sumerians, and those written languages that came later. In what written language was the Ten Commandments written? Did the Egyptians teach Moses Hebrew or Egyptian? Did the Egyptians teach their slaves, the Jews, Egyptian writing? Did Moses learn a different language from his in laws, the people of his wife? Why is there a similarity between the Greek alphabet and the Hebraic alphabet? Whose people originated the alphabet; as opposed to the hieroglyph and cuneiform? Where did this type of language and writing system originate?
Can you have language without a writing system? Yes. It's called an oral tradition.
I have no problem mixing my Christian beliefs with the ancient texts. They don't conflict ... just adds and expands.
Joe is a work in progress just like the rest of us there is a lot we do not know keeping an open mind is God's specialty 😅
This would have been my ultimate interview by Rogan! Rest in peace Dr. Heiser.
SAME!!!
They were hallucinating when they prophesied. Dr Ammon Hillman has done the proper translation
Michael Heiser is truly missed . God bless , and peace to all in Jesus Christ mighty name !
Amen 🙏
So far this is one of the best I've seen.
"The Beginning is Near". Sensationally unsensational
Ammon Hillman PHD for a deep dive into the ancient greek bible translations. The greek version of the Epic is the closest to the reason for and truthful translation of the bible.
Love your content so far. Only criticism I have is that the 3D text and shadows are distracting and difficult to read. I'd like to suggest a more simple visual approach.
God bless!
I appreciate that feedback and will make some course corrections. Actually really means a lot🔔❤️✌️
👍🔔you got it "ring them bells" maker 😃🙏(I am a Christian too)
Thank you I’m so glad I found your station. Wonderful alignment info
Heiser was a great professor and the documentary sounds fantastic.
I love Joe Rogan but when it comes to biblical things then I would not doubt Dr Heiser. The unseen realm is a great introduction into supernatural and he wrote that. He has a podcast called Fringepop. He has a video called Angels and a video called Demons. When he got saved his parents were not Christian yet and they ask him if he had joined a cult. He was taken from us too soon. He died from cancer. Theres none like him.
This is what I was so worried about, that Dr. Heiser, his committed work through his belief, would be shelved. I am so thankful for this. I am a subscriber and encourage anyone I speak with to get on board. God Bless.
I think Heiser may of gotten through to Joe Rogan if they had ever met .
Mike finally got all the answer to all the questions.
Michael heiser was brilliant
the watchers or falling angels are the iggi lower class anunnaki that 200 of them came here for a wedding and took human wives
Then the Pope wants them in Heaven! You can't make this stuff up. God has already judged them.
The truth is always somewhere in between.
Interesting thought to be explored!
If you’re still waiting for Nero to come flying back around, you missed a goddamn memo
I've heard they used King Darius's "the Besetoon Mountain" carvings near the city of Kermanshah, Iran, to decode the tablets,because the carvings was written in the three ancient languages of that time.
I love ya Brother...... I am so so glad to hear you are seeing Joe Rogan. Yes, I said what I meant. Seeing him. And seeing........ more.
The fact of the matter is that Jesus told us that his Father is not of this world so that’s a lot to unpack. The idea that the gods came here from another planet is not all that far fetched when it comes to biblical principle. In this universe there is spiritual truth and physical truth and there is an underlying balance between those. The problem is that we only have 5 senses to explore all of this so we’re always going to be clueless until our perception changes.
HOW EXCITING!!!!
The supernatural nature of the Bible has not been suppressed. It’s a very forefront I mean the biggest figure in all of biblical history literally came back to life. It doesn’t get any more supernatural than that.
Excellent work!
Hey Man,
I appreciate your insight and the time you spend putting this content together.
Have you have spent any time looking at Chuck Missler’s content?
Wish you the best, brother.
Wow, there must be something to this if the government is having them put up context links
Michael Heisser played a huge part helping me understand the Bible better and strengthening my relationship with Jesus. Thanks Michael Heisser, I pray for you and miss your wisdom!
Awesome interview ❤
Not even in the ballpark. Thirty five minutes I’ll never get back. Wake up people!
I feel the same way... Can't understand why I clicked play thinking it was Joe Rogan.
Wake up about what?
There’s all kinds of writing in the Bible that was written hundreds of years after the actions taken. How can anyone confirm anything is true? We can’t it’s all just faith. At the end we are all looking for the same thing. Blessings.
The Bible is the inspired word of God. Humans can trust and believe all the Bible says
Z.SITCHIN WAS A LIAR AND LOVED MONEY AND A BIT OF FAME = UGH
yeah and it's also part of the new age alien 👽agenda👿 Heiser was an ancient semetic languages scholar , but also had limits on some things he either didn't know or couldn't talk about , biblical cosmology is real and basically mainstream science is garbage., like heliocentrism , soon as you learn we live inside the world sun and moon are both small and go around us like hands on a clock on 6 portals that give us the seasons and day and night , the ice wall circle holds the world's oceans in , but there are drain and water pathways that clean the water , heat it up and circulate it again , aliens are fallen angels and demons and the earth is an Aquarium and it's enclosed world . realms above and below are real , and space is not what we been told at all . good and evil exist in us and the world . and in the heavens . 👿.
Admittedly Dr. Heiser is a knowledgeable Bible scholar. However, we must understand his studies of what he refers to as the Old Testament is the Old Testament after the 6th-7th Redaction of the ancient texts. This redaction is when monotheism was first introduced around the time of King Josiah. During the Redaction the original writings were changed to express the theology of scribes doing the redaction. Dr. Heiser often states that there is not any writings of the old Testament that talk about flying machines or Chariots, that is because he believes the redaction rather than the original writings. There are many many writings that tell a completely different story than the one he talks about, in scripture. Not to mention the world wide ancient history of the indigenous people who talk about flying machines and how similar they are to peoples who lived in distant continents before there was communication between the continents, their distant past. So be careful and not let a persons scholarship of certain areas be understood as to being a scholar in all areas of research.
You can’t just use the Bible to debunk or research. You need to go to original texts. There missing books in the Bible go to those missing books/ texts. Please research on your own and don’t use a commercial book that’s obviously lacking all of the info needed. That’s why you get confused
Rogans viewers (I'm one of them but not in this category) only hear Joe's guest deliver a gist of what they may find is true while others have read the ancient source texts and dissertation and commentarys about these ideas and see most rather do the less work and just go by snippet ideas on the podcasts or other TH-cam shows and say that's all that is their and if it isn't true or more info may be out their I don't have time to look it up or one is to lazy to - that's the problem with only watching and hearing when one needs to read and study!
I've got one. Fallen Angels were the Watchers. 200 of the Watchers were bound in chains in Tartarus. So, we know 1/3 must be more than 200, Fallen Angels don't lose their ability to shift into human form, and they are immortal.
Where are the remaining Fallen Angels today?
I think @ringthembells should have an interview with @PaulWallis
Why couldn't Joe have met Dr Heiser???
Agreed, I say this all the time ❤️✔️🔔
, I hate Clickbait.
I think most people realize Stitchin had many inaccuracies however in general the ideas he presents such as Annunaki being extraterrestrial, conducting genetic alterations on hominid genetics and developing an advanced terrestrial civilization were most likely correct as opposed to the dribble that the cult of archeology protects.