What are the best SMGs in Ready or Not?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2023
- There are many submachine guns (and PDWs) to choose from in Ready or Not. Smaller weapons tailored for full auto bursts aren't always the ideal option - but in certain environments, they are a great choice. SWAT teams around the world have used submachine guns such as the MP5 for years, and many still do to this day. The question is, which ones are the best in Ready or Not? Today, we rank them from F to S tier based on how well they function, and how cool they look.
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No matter which SMG is the best MP5 will always be the coolest
MP5 for life!
MPX for life, if an mp5 and an AR had a baby
I run MP5, USP and Flashbangs for the Rainbow Six experience
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Mp7 tho...
The MP9 was actually designed by Steyr as the TMP. B&T purchased the design at a later date.
thanks for the trivia bit
And basically the only differences was that they changed the stock and added the top rail
Came to comments to find this comment, was not disappointed.
It's also recoil-operated, which makes it a real unicorn among these SMGs.
@@immikeurnot Some of us would argue that's a bad thing lol.
Initially, because of the abundance of body armor, I thought P90 or MP7 is the way. However, I felt like the P90 seemed to still require a lot of bullets to neutralize a threat. Besides, found something nice : with 9mm SMGs, even though you don't pen body armor, you're more likely to down them non-lethally, making it a decent "less likely to be lethal" option. That said, it's important to control your burst and observe your target to not "over shoot them" until they die. It mostly works against body armor, unarmored suspects are still likely to die. Besides, nothing beat the classic SWAT feel of the MP5A2 with the flashlight and no other attachment.
Very good advice! I'm soloing the Commander mode and it's so hard not to kill armed suspects once they've decided to make a try.
This is a legit strategy, although I haven't been able to do it consistently
from what i've heard, 9mm and .45 ACP seem to be pretty inconsistent as far as getting them to give up vs them not caring. then again, i'm getting similar inconsistencies with beanbags, pepperballs, and gas.
@xevanski2737 It's not really consistent for sure, but I was surprised by how often it would happen while doing some cosplay with the MP5. I was surprised by the survival rate and by how they would sometimes surrender due to the suppression, pain, or stun from getting 9mm in their limbs or from the blunt force in their body armor. It's not as reliable as an SA58 or a beanbag for sure though.
I believe there is a bug with the P90 because it does not down people in a reasonable burst. I have less ammo in a MP7 but can down more enemies than I can with a P90 by a lot. I can easily down 4-5 enemies with MP7, but the P90 I can barley get 2 people per mag
The MP7 is straight disgusting in RoN, it's a good primary for almost any map minus the large ones where the engagement range demands an AR.
It's one of my favorites
P90 Master race
PDWs are almost the perfect weapon for urban/domestic encounters. they're compact, without sacrificing penetration
MP7 is my go to gun in most games.
Only if it can be used with a shield...
Not having the MP5SD in this game feels like a major oversight. I guess it’s more of a niche military application than SWAT… but after handling and using one, it will forever be my favorite pistol caliber weapon. Such a dream to shoot, and so controllable even on full auto out to 50 yards
MP5SD is my favorite by far
Thats because is 2023 not the 1980's. Everyone has started moved away from sub machines/PDW's to Carbines. The only application still relevant for Subs/PDW's is VIP protection.
a lot of stuff in this game is a major oversight thanks to the low iq devs
@@Deleteyourself83basically every swat team in the U.S. still uses SMGs and PDWs with the MP5SD actually being quite popular still. Most SWAT teams don’t encounter body armor on a regular basis.
@@Deleteyourself83 Maybe at well funded departments. My local one still has plenty of MP5s being used, including MP5SDs.
To get max style points you have to play with classic MP-5 with only flashlight, and big iron.357
That would be the Metropolitan Police Armed Response loadout c.1990.
GIGN boarding an airliner loadout.
I love how you give background on all the guns! It makes the video much more interesting then just listing how good the gun is and then ranking it.
I love talking about their history
@@civilianuseonlyWhen the Shotgun video?
I am of the opposite opinion. Most players watching this video won't care and will find it annoying. I, as a gun nerd, am also annoyed because I already know all of this stuff.
I clicked on a video to see a tier list ranking, not hear someone go into details about a firearm in real life.
"Ive heard the culprit has a knife. How do you plan on handling the threat?"
"My MP7 beats his knife."
Considering the significant difference bw the energy of the 10mm vs the 9mm, Id say that the MP5-10 should pack more punch.
Yeah, but then again there's not a whole lot of difference between any of the calibers outside of armor pen. 9mm through 308 all usually kill in 2-3 shots on unarmored targets.
IRL 10mm isn't going to have any better armor pen than 9mm, so frankly the in-game depiction is pretty good.
probably has underloaded cartridges (very common in 10mm)
@turdbergler657 agreed, have seen 10mm used as an anti fragmentation and designed to not overshoot targets. Saw some cool rounds designed to destroy soft targets but only pen 1 sheet of drywall so that you don't overshoot targets
@@ConReese You're talking about frangible ammo? That's not unique to 10mm. I guarantee there isn't a single bullet design/type that is unique to 10mm.
@@CharlieMikeNS I never said it was unique, just that it was good at it while still maintaining good soft target damage
1:44 MP9 B Tier
2:32 SPC9 C Tier
3:44 P90 S Tier
5:29 MP5A3 A Tier
7:47 MP5/10 B Tier
8:59 UMP45 B Tier
10:17 UMP9 B Tier
10:34 MP7 S Tier
12:21 MPX A Tier
13:34 MP5A2 S Tier
P90/FiveSeven pistol is just my default in Ready or not when i'm going lethal.
Huge magazine, dead compact, good penetration.
Can't go wrong with it.
You can since P90 is bugged and actually takes longer to down an opponent with it than it should.
@@Eseerrowez It downs in like 2-3 bullets though....
@@Lowlightt it doesn't when its on auto because its bugged. You funnily enough see that in this video as well
I used to be Border Patrol (I'm happily no longer a fed or cop, long story...), we had a few UMP40's (in .40 S&W) in our arsenals including the Academy, and I must say, the UMP is the worst full auto gun I fired. It's clunky, the simpler operating system makes high recoil, and the oversized handguard gives bad ergonomics, you can't C-clamp it(it's oversize makes even a normal grip less solid unless you have sasquatch hands) and that heaviy increases practical recoil. It's key purpose for design was cost cutting as you mention in the video, well, that's very obvious when you handle it.
Being one of the earlier polymer framed rifles, the receivers were also known to crack after a couple thousand or so rounds. It was also used by ATV patrolman, and bumping and falls from the ATV's were also known to critically damage the frame in ways that wouldn't happen to other guns.
With the advent of the MK18 and the following popularity of SBR length AR's, AR15 SBR's eventually replaced the UMP40's some time in the 2010's, good riddance!
On the contrary, I knew someone who worked with the FBI and got to use an MP5/10, and he said it was amazing. An MP5 with beefy 10mm but with a bolt hold open does sound like a dream SMG.
Small world, I'm also former border patrol. Interesting to hear about the UMP - I've always heard negative things, but never about cracking receivers
Wait, the 10mm MP5 has bho?
@@xsevo1028 yep
@@xsevo1028yes, but I’ve also seen that it had reliability issues, unless that’s changed.
@@civilianuseonlyI’ve heard some stories like that.
I always pick the MP7 because I’ll never get my hands on one irl
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I think Tommy Built Tactical is working on a semi automatic pistol version that you can SBR. Of course, it’s going to be around $3500-$3600 😮
Man the hotline miami music took me back...
The MPX never seeing mass adoption is interesting, and I have a theory about that. Most SWAT teams are ditching Submachine guns and PDWs for shorter AR-15s in 5.56 or .300 Blackout, which you can compact to Submachine gun sizes but still get great armor penetration with. Departments that can afford to upgrade are switching to SBRs, departments that can't couldn't afford the MPX anyway and are probably still using 30 year old MP5s and Mossbergs
Quite likely, and the 30 year old beat up Mp5s definitely are a thing
While using UMP45 I noticed, that AP rounds tend to incapacitate, but not entirely kill most of the suspects if aiming at abdomen. Found myself using it a lot lately
this is against plate wearers? if so that's pretty useful to know
My biggest issue with the gun is the slow fire rate though
Too bad that incaps are still basically pointless (For the most part) as they count for the same score as kills currently.
I think he means he downs them and they stand back up as if it were a normal arrest@@TheInfamousCloaker
@@Automaton23I dont think he does
As much as I love the amount of choices you have in firearms in the game I keep remembering that the LSPD is supposed to be very underfunded and my suspension of disbelief starts breaking when everyone in my Element including Judge is carrying p90 and Five Seven sidearms with night vision on lol. Anyways great vid hope to see more soon!
Thanks, more to come
Your guys are so special in the unit that they've made sure to use half the budget in 5 dudes
Yeah it’s a gameplay compromise. Maybe story wise in commander mode they can make it so you unlock more guns and tools as you complete missions to show that support for the department increases as they complete missions.
I actually limit myself to using a few guns with minimal attachments to fit the lore lol
I have a theory that the team is on loan from another agency.
The P90 mag being opaque is a game limit (that they are working on fixing) not something they were too lazy to do according to a dev.
You also forgot to mention the P90 is a weapon of war, made to kill the enemy, as shown by one of America's top special forces teams: SG-1.
This is supported by the mag check animation: the character just tilts the P90 up to look at the mag as if it's see-through
The P90 isn't a "weapon of war". It was designed to be used by counter terrorist forces and police, and also as a primary weapon for non-combat personnel.
It's more of a defensive or specialist weapon. When I think "weapon of war" I think about front line service rifles and stuff, like ARs and AKs. You know, assault style rifles.
You won't ever see general infantry using a PDW.
@@TheFirstCurse1 i don’t want to but someone’s gotta say it: you should really google SG-1
@@TheFirstCurse1
The "Weapon of War" quote was a Stargate SG1 reference. You're not wrong about the P90 in real life though.
@@sarttan Oh my bad. Thanks for letting me know.
Apparently the mp5a2 is actually an A4 because of the Navy trigger group with 3 round burst
True - a proper a2 would have the SEF lower. Good catch
@@civilianuseonlyJonathan pointed that out when he covered RON guns. th-cam.com/video/cQj1loCn7t0/w-d-xo.html&si=kxxmIo8xrVZj3F_u
@@civilianuseonly don’t give me too much credit. Imfdb noticed it first
The MP5-A2 paired with the 90s SWAT gear definitely gives the game another vibe. Would be great to have a DLC set on that time with that old equipment and enviroinments
I was ready to RIOT if the MP5A2 with surefire handguard didn't get put in S-tier but I'm happy to see that won't be necessary.
It's nice to see the admin results MP7 clip memed this way
Love background info about guns, very interesting material, which gets reflected in the game. Waiting for shotguns)
The B&T APC9 (Shorter variant of the SPC9) was also chosen by the U.S. Army and Air Force for VIP Protection Details.
The classic MP5 for me personally is a case of "if it's not broken don't fix it." And I also think the equip animation for the P90 is the coolest in all of RoN.
One thing I never thought I would experience is Christmas music playing over RoN. So I guess in that spirit, I'll spread the Christmas spirit through 9 mm. Merry X-mas.
Merry Christmas!
Love your videos man, super helpful and informative. Thanks hanks a ton keep it up!
Thank you!
We need a Rifle Tier list video.
The SPC is actually my favorite. I don't really feel the recoil, but I also do bursts of 3-4 rounds which makes it very effective
SPC with JHP against non armored is such a joy 👍
YES!! Your take on the MP5A2 earned yourself a subscriber. I have been in love with how the MP5 looks with the attached flashlight for years. Easily one of the coolest looking guns ever.
Man you did the SPC dirty. By far the quickest damage dealer of the SMGs. JHP in all missions. Start at the pelvic girdle and stitch up to the head. Doesn't matter if they have body armor or not.
original MP5 with flashlight fore-grip is still my fave, no changing that
The video I’ve been waiting for, cheers mate, have a brilliant xmas
Merry Christmas!
Once again, a great video! I cannot wait for the rifle video!
Legend has it that the 5.7x28 round has enough velocity to reach the moon and hit any aliens living up there.
I like how you’ve done research on these, like with the new SPC and the demand from LE in Europe.
The P90 and MP7 almost feel like a cheat code in this game.
It’s penetrative enough to go through armor but not enough to go through the entire person. They’re somewhat less lethal than rifles so you have a higher chance of completing arrest objectives via incapacitation. Both are incredibly compact with a barrel that barely sticks out. You have so much fricking ammo that you can bring less mags in favour of more tacticals/deployables.
The P90 in particular is surprisingly effective at range. Probably due to its larger caliber + longer barrel owing to the bullpup construction.
While I disagree with most of the tierlist except the mp5a2, good video, keep up the good work !
I love the MP9 purely because on early missions the FMJ rounds just melt suspects and later missions the AP shreds through them, same with the MP7 German weapons just hit different
Don't you mean JHP instead of FMJ?
I always use SMGs and PDWs in Ready or Not, it makes sense in most cases that as a swat team entering what are mostly confined spaces that they'd use either SMGs, PDWs, or shotguns, at least to me, my personal favorite is the MP5A3.
TOC: Atlas, why did you use full-auto in the building?
Me (Atlas): *They were also, using full auto.*
I hope they add the Vityaz, would be a fun eastern counterpart to the MP5
Or the CZ Scorpion.
I love the P90 both in rainbow Six Seige and Ready Or Not, HUGE THANKS for this rate, It was really thoroughly done, by all SMG. Gonna try out this MP7
I've personally found the spc extremely controllable if you pull down while firing, and with the right attachments it's basically a laser pointer after a bit of use. the full auto is excessively fast though, and it burns ammo if you aren't judicious with the trigger.
i actually really love the MP7 with the pistol sights
The raid on the guys making full-auto stuff was the only one I equipped all pepper balls on. Should’ve been legal from the start.
Cant wait for the rifles tier list!
My most-used SMG's are the MP7, the SPC, and the MP9. Though 9mm isn't great against body armor, I feel like the high rate of fire makes up for it and still allows them to chew through armored enemies, especially at close range.
I think it would be nice if you showed how each gun sounds without a suppressor. Otherwise great vid
Suppressors still do not work so there is no point
@@pestilentsleeper9152but the video rate the appearance too, and the sound (without suppressor) adds a lot to the experience
@@luisulisesfloresmartinez6240 I didn’t consider that aspect, fair point
does not work?
The overkill mag dumping on dead bodies as they fall is so hilarious
As someone who has fired both an MP5 and P90 in full auto... the P90 is amazing. Literally no contest in recoil and control. That thing is a laser.
Love your usage of Hotline Miami soundtracks 11:42
Can't wait for the rifle and shotgun tier list
I got into this game recently and tbh ive never been interested in guns and probably wont ever own one but the explanations for their background and how they work is fascinating
Thanks, it's why I make these videos
Honestly, the pistol irons on the MP7 are pretty good, especially in close quarters dark maps where a flashlight can outshine a holo sight.
Oh man what an absolute legend you're to include Hotline Miami music 👍 it fits so well and I'm gonna copy that in my plays 😂😂❤
I can't remember for the life of me, what is the name of that soundtrack?
@@Bruh-d Type in Hotline Miami Crystals and it should pop up 👍
@@Bruh-d Crystals by M|O|O|N
Like MP5 for lowest recoil in any fire mode, but favorite is UMP-45 for 600 rpm that give opportunity control recoil and shots in auto, for stopping effect of fat 45acp too.
11:03 4.6 out of the MP7 from what I've heard, is NOT a good round. People who used it say everyone gets at least half a mag, no exceptions. If you thought people complain about the lethality of 5.56 or 9mm, "hold my grains" -MP7
I like these tier videos. Hope you make more.
My top 3 SMGs are: MP5/10, SPC, UMP-45. Further ones I occasionally take out: P90 (Stargate feels), MP7.
Regarding SMGs I'm waiting for the MP5SD6, MP5KA4 (with burst), MP5/40, MP5 MLI, Beretta PMX, Beretta Mx4 Storm to come to the game.
And also Glock 19 mounted in CAA RONI-G2 full auto, or replace the Glock with a full auto capable Glock.
2:18 I like how the guy went from fighting to giving up to dropping 😂
Subbed for that random badass Hotline Miami edit
The MP7 is my go to PDW in every game, it's as effective as the P90 but it's slightly more beautiful in my opinion
I agree with everything you said about the MP5 10 however it was the primary weapon of the Rainbow operators in the original Rainbow 6 book, which in my opinion puts it firmly into S tier.
That MP7 edit goes so hard
I believe The MPX Is (S) because it never let me down with fast controllable fire rate and quick reloads. The only downfall I can see Is mag capacity which can hinder you if you are rushed by 3 or more enemies but the super fast reload kinda negates that.
I wish MP5 10mm in RoN have an option to remove the rail systems... i miss that classic look from the classic R6 series
The Hotline Miami music was spot on
Love that soundtrack
@@civilianuseonly keep uploading those kind of videos bro it’s pure quality. Great work ! You will get a big ready or not TH-camr I’m sure of that
Great video man! Looks like we have the same taste in SMGs :D but didn't you forget the UMP-9? Where would you put that gun?
Thank you! Was a shorter segment, but 10:10
11:47 certified Hotline Miami moment
7:16 lol, that's actually how you should charge the MP5 or at least for it's older model
MP5A2 with the flashlight, iron sights and no suppressor is where its at
Can't wait for the AR video
Hoping for an AR video. Great video btw!
Thank you
One of the suppressors on the SPC9 increases vertical recoil. The other suppressor reduces vertical recoil. Noticeable difference between the two in-game.
If they ever add the Vector I'll use it exclusively.
I was about to ask in the comment if you're doing the Tier for the SMG's including the p90. I see it on the video and will watch it later on. Thank you!
Loving this series. Will we be getting a shotgun video, or will it be bundled with nonlethals or something? Because there are only a couple and they perform similarly.
Thanks! Still planning, but ideally they are separate
I'd like to see a rifle list. Feel like I'm missing out on some of the details for the most common weapons in the game and maybe even missing out on some rifles I didn't know were really effective.
I'd really like to see them add sub-machine guns and PDWs with integrated suppressors. You just know i'd run a MP5SD variant if it was available, looks smokin' and would probably help a little with barrel lenght if you still want a quieter firearms to go around doors and corners.
I want the MP5SD for the unmatched vibe
When I play RoN I choose the UMP45 and the MP5A2(Technically A4). UMP45 mainly because of the slower firerate and the bigger punch. It's a weapon that permits you good control in full auto, and you aren't spitting bullets and have more time to let go of the trigger if a civilian comes running into the line of fire. MP5A2 however is a practical option. I don't need too much in the way of attachments if the weapon itself has compensation, and is a comfortable choice for close quarters against targets with minimal body armor.
That AK at 7:30 refused to be dropped
This guy becomes be THE Ready or Not youtuber
Listing LE agencies that don't have an MP5 would be a drastically larger list than those that do, gross over exaggeration. AR15s are significantly more affordable and vastly more available. MP5s are acquired by large departments with large budgets, and even then they are only distributed to a handful of Officers in specialized units..
I love this Tier List and i completly Agree with it. My main Loadouts are P90-FiveSeven, MP5/10-FiveSeven and SA58-FiveSeven It's sad that the MP5/10 isn't included in the A2 version.
The MP5 10mm is my go to for basically anything in Ready or Not. The reason is rather simple. I'm a terrible shot! I basically never switch it off that two round burst and I find that if I aim for the neck of a target I can quickly take down most targets even armored enemies. If you really need to defeat body armor, you can always rapidly tap the trigger to turn that burst fire into a semi auto. I've found that I perform more reliably with this gun then anything. Admittedly, I could just practice more and do better with a rifle. But not only does it seem to work for me, it also looks cool as fuck.
I guess I'm the only person in the world who thinks the UMP is much better looking than the MP5😅
Respectable
I mean let's face it; P90's massive 50 round magazine nets it a definitive place at the top of usefulness...
I (the taxpayers) paid for the 50 round mag, I'm going to use the whole mag.
Not only that, because of its large mag you can take less mags into the map which leaves you way more room for other tools.
MOON's tracks on Hotline Miami are all so damn good.
Thanks best video ! I would also like to see AR tires. Do you have any plans to make something?
Video is planned. Will be taking this week off, then videos will continue after
The MP9 seems so cool in real life from those who’ve used it and how light it is.
I love the SPC mainly for its firerate
It doesn't matter if you dont like using full auto, you're gonna have to, its a SMG, low recoil, compact, small, its made for full auto at CQC distances. Unless you play on a more long range focused combat map, then you should reconsider switching your weapon.
i wished the suspect guns were playable for the UZI. it would definetely be one of the weakest but still the coolest
Give me the Uzi with wood stock
MP5 is cool but i'd only pick it in missions where the suspects have no body armor
I really wish they had the MP5A2 with the collapsing stock instead of the stock in-game.
Mp5a3 would be peak die hard vibes
My go to commander mode weapons for my AI teammates are mp7, mpx, mp5a2 lol
It’d be neat if they added the CZ Scorpion.
I think it's a bit ridiculous to put it in the P90 S series, because the 5.7 bullets it uses are limited and expensive. But you can find 9mm on the ground even while walking on the road.
The devs said they are working on the P90 magazine but that was like a year ago so idk if they actually are.
luv the MP7
The one major style catastrophe with the MP5A2 is no HK-Slap, only the A3 has it :(
Literally watched Die Haed last night, simply the best Christmas movie