when I was a kid, there was a black one like this parked near my home and I was going around it every day on my way to the school.. well.. greetings from ex czechoslovakia! :)
to opravu netušim, byl jsem malý kluk, takže jsem tehdy ani nevěděl že bylo víc modelů, repektive jakých.. prostě stála na ulici mezi škodovkama a žigulíkama a já chodil kolem se kochat
@marek marek Tatra made some of the most innovative and, in my opinion, most beautiful cars of its time ... I may be crazy but I would much rather have that Tatra than a Lambourgini ...
I never made the connection between this design and the Tucker until I just heard it from Jay. It makes me wonder if Tucker ever saw one during the war. He was a defense contractor.
I see one more thing in common between Tatra and Lamborghini, that they both have been producing tractors 🚜 I like the Tatra so much by the way, a true masterpiece
If you ever get a chance to visit the Tatra museum in Kopřivnice, you'd find that this company has manufactured in 20th century such a variety of machinery as trains, trucks (light and heavy), cars, snowmobiles etc. But somehow I can't remember anything agricultural, I might be wrong though, it's been about 20 years now, well worth.
Kinda makes me proud to be slovak (born in czechoslovakia). The old Tatras were awesome. One guy across the street used to have one (black, teardrop shape, newer model though and we were always gushing so much everytime he drove by.
Another Muira, a Countache, an M1... All cars I'd love to see in a museum, let alone ever own! And you're able to stand next to them? Better man than I
I was able to sit in a Tatra like this A man that helped design a three wheel car called the Davis and had an Engineering company somewhere near El Monte, California. He had a collection of old cars behind the business. I was amazed that you would have to look through a little rear window that in turn had you look through thin louvered slots on the engine cover!!
About the Tatra: In the front hood you can find the outlet for the warm air from the oilcooler. And one second thing:. Engine and gearbox are made out of Elektron( Magnesium Alu)
Hans Ledwinka was Czech-austrian engineer, not Austrian, even his name Ledwinka is Czech and means kidney. But that was typical almost half of all Viennas shops has Czech names according its original Czech founders...
There was a modern Tatra with a rear V8 sold in the mid 90s, just after the split of Czech and Slovak Republics. I remember seeing a review of it and details for the importer to the UK.
Something struck me as Jay mentioned about having dinner in the Tatra T87.....Jay needs to go through some drive through food joints and order food while in some of his beautiful cars just for some fun.
Tatra was a featured marque at Pebble Beach in 2014. There were about 20 of them there. The Muira was a featured Marque in 2016. About a dozen(?) showed up.
Tatra were a company way ahead of the time and along with Skoda heavy engineering was one of the main reasons Hitler and the Nazis invaded the Czech Republic so quickly, lots of their engineering was far ahead of the Germans. The Tatra V570 design was stolen by the Nazis and made into the original VW Beetle. The reason behind the shape of this model was something called 'streamlining' was being tested in cars.
Yes Allen, What the NAZIs were really after was the Factory that made those state of the art Submarines that were used by the Czech navy and the Slovak coast guard. This is where the U-Boats that conquered France were actually made.
@@ivannajakov7787 It was a nation which designed it´s own aircrafts, it´s own tanks, had large weaponry factories, was manufacturing heavy cannons for navy, manufactured ship engines, and exported whole factories. Germany was the poor neighbour in many aspects. Nazis took over without fight thanks to Munich´s pact, and used forced labour on locals to provide equipment for war.
There were other early 60s mid-engine exotic sports cars, Porsche 904, Ford GT, Ferrari Dino 246. The Miura was probably the first mid engine sports car purpose built for the road, not a racing model modified for the street.
Yes Porsche no patent technology.Patent Hanz Ledwinka erich Ledwinka friend Porsche. WW2 nazi hitler vw beatle from Porsche th-cam.com/video/Q-c3Ue2NlxY/w-d-xo.html
Side of road changed when Hitler annexed czechoslovakia. It was left side before Munich pact. Happened all over Europe, except Britain, where they never set foot.
I like the 48 tucker that had the center headlight that turned when you turned the wheel. Love pre 1950 cars. Can’t believe there was over 250 car makers back then. Now cars are a pile of plastic, cheap metal and a headache after 2 years. Some even quicker. And they’re all 4 cylinder turbos which is terrible. V8s and up are the best. Sad car manufacturers are steering away from the v8, ,10 and v12s.
and jay also said that the engine mixes its oil with its fuel, explaining the white smoke while it'd be a problem in normal cars if you saw this kind of smoke, in cars such as the miura and the more obscure 2-stroke trabant, which also mixed it's fuel with oil, its quite normal, and gives the car a specific oily smell
+Gynkys No 4-cycle engine mixes oil with fuel, it just wouldn't run properly if it did. Instead, the 4-cycle engine in the Miura shares its crankcase oil with the transmission, as Jay pointed out at 10:10 in the video.
with old expensive rare carbureted engines it's usually wise to jet the carbs a little rich to help avoid the risk of leaning out and burning/breaking something. yes it does leave additional carbon deposits in the engine but that can be cleaned out for the cost of the gaskets whereas if you burn a hole through a piston, you're rebuilding the entire engine.
So the argument about the Muira, it is the first supercar. Leno claims the Gullwing Mercedes, which was designed for racing. The Muira was pure ego and would never let it's cuffs and hems be soiled.
3:07 Is the clock inside the Tatra original? It ticks like a quartz clock, but being from 1938 I doubt quartz clocks were a thing yet (might be wrong)...
The VW beetle started out as an Idea Dr.Porsche had long before it was mass produced. The concept was the peoples car. n.b. it was not communist, it was inspired by the model T ford. You put 4 adults in 2 bench seats and enclose them in the smallest cabin possible, that will also hold the wheels and as small an engine that can get the job done, and give it a shape that will have the least aerodynamic drag. Now the more of these you make the lower the price can be...Hitler liked the idea but modified it to if you give me your freedom, I will give you a car. n.b. this was at a time when working class people in Germany could not afford a car. Of course this was a scam. The price he offered was far below the money anyone could build a car for, and by the time the factory was finished, the war started and the factory would make the kubelwagen a fuel sufficient car for the army. The TATRA was always a larger more expensive 4 door car with a V8. this was something that could be made for the price they planned. And it had a tail-fin The shapes are similar because that is the sort of shape that gives you the most passenger room with the least drag. Niether car was a copy of the other.
@Skodaman2 The reasons VW lost were 1, the trial happened in Czechoslovakia ( the country were Tatra was located) 2, The shyster TATRA hired was competent. 3, The judge was not, he must have been some kind of a stupid @$$ hole. 4, Volkswagen had been a project of the NAZIs. There are photographs of Hitler at a rally inside a VW convertible giving the crowd the NAZI wave. 5, Do you know who financed the Volkswagen project? Maybe the Nazis put up some of the money, but Hitler and his pal, Rhinehart thought up this scam were a German who could not afford to buy a car would buy these stamps and if they ever got a full book of stamps, they could trade the book for a new people's car. Before anyone ever did this, the war started, the factory had to make Kubelwagens for the army ( including officers of the Waffen S.S.) before long the 8th air force had bombed the $#*+ out of the factory. Therefore some Kraut who worked for the company that was created from the ruins of this NAZI factory may be listened to for a few minutes while he said that Dr. Porsche had been thinking about the people's car since the early twenties and Porsche had actually tested models of cars that looked like the VW in the wind tunnel in the 1930s, after that he was told to shut up and go think up an apology. If he did not, OK, he could be charged with contempt, and that evening he could Czech out the Prague jail, if he wanted to do things the hard way. 6, Any non-retarded person can see that the Tatras have a big tail fin on the rear and a VW does not, so the VW can't be a copy. If you can contact Mr. Leno about this he may know experts on both marques of car who will back up my side of the story.
Nádhera,srdce zaplesá když vidí Tatru vedle Lamba a slyší chválu na Československé inženýry. Krásný exemplář ❤👍🇨🇿
The T87 has been extremely well restored, it look gorgeous.
And the dashboard design, look at that ... designed with love!
when I was a kid, there was a black one like this parked near my home and I was going around it every day on my way to the school..
well.. greetings from ex czechoslovakia! :)
needless to say that I loved going around this old V8, it smelled and looked old, but somehow unbreakable and amazing.. :)
hah presne... aky model to bol?
to opravu netušim, byl jsem malý kluk, takže jsem tehdy ani nevěděl že bylo víc modelů, repektive jakých.. prostě stála na ulici mezi škodovkama a žigulíkama a já chodil kolem se kochat
@marek marek
Tatra made some of the most innovative and, in my opinion, most beautiful cars of its time ... I may be crazy but I would much rather have that Tatra than a Lambourgini ...
Joo...Tatra,nezná bratra! :-)) Já jsem jezdil zas s T 813 AM 50. "-))
The Tatra T87 along with the Citroen DS might be the most innovative cars ever made.
The 1959 Mini amongst them.
Incredible, Czech Republic such a small country, had amazing engineers and produced so much engineering equipment. You name it ,they made it.
Tatra was an amazing company with great technologies and engineering. And this one is a very good example.
Tatra still exists;-)
Yes, but it’s not the same
I never made the connection between this design and the Tucker until I just heard it from Jay. It makes me wonder if Tucker ever saw one during the war. He was a defense contractor.
5 years later and I still love this show
Looked you had fun Dennis.
I did!
The Jay Leno' / Dennis Gage videos are my favorite
I see one more thing in common between Tatra and Lamborghini, that they both have been producing tractors 🚜
I like the Tatra so much by the way, a true masterpiece
If you ever get a chance to visit the Tatra museum in Kopřivnice, you'd find that this company has manufactured in 20th century such a variety of machinery as trains, trucks (light and heavy), cars, snowmobiles etc. But somehow I can't remember anything agricultural, I might be wrong though, it's been about 20 years now, well worth.
That’s the best looking Lamborghini ever made inside and out
I travel to Prague & the Czech Republic (Czechia now) a lot and am always delighted to see old Tatras. They are just too weird....
the first aerodinamic vehicle in the world is weird? why?
It's actually still Czech Republic :-)
@@patrikhala1910 and Czechia, too.
Kinda makes me proud to be slovak (born in czechoslovakia). The old Tatras were awesome. One guy across the street used to have one (black, teardrop shape, newer model though and we were always gushing so much everytime he drove by.
Jay Leno looks like he's always having a great time in his videos!!
I'd love to have a tatra. Such a cool old car.
Would you prefer a Tatra over a Cord ?
@@kevinvaughn1244 like the American cord? Yes
Always loved those Campagnolo wheels on the Muira
After watching this episode, I have a strong hunch that Tucker may have seen a Tatra. It's way to similar. (Hey Mr. Denis!) 👋
This car is just fucking amazing! The sound. The design the color how low it is. Wooow. And the music they put on it matches completely.
Must be nice to have friends like Jay Leno.
It is!
Proud to be Czech !!
Another Muira, a Countache, an M1... All cars I'd love to see in a museum, let alone ever own!
And you're able to stand next to them? Better man than I
I can’t imagine that sound ever getting old
Dennis Gauge is the only person i have ever seen drive leno's cars.
im pretty sure they're like really good friends that go way back
someone else commented that
I was able to sit in a Tatra like this A man that helped design a three wheel car called the Davis and had an Engineering company somewhere near El Monte, California. He had a collection of old cars behind the business. I was amazed that you would have to look through a little rear window that in turn had you look through thin louvered slots on the engine cover!!
About the Tatra: In the front hood you can find the outlet for the warm air from the oilcooler. And one second thing:. Engine and gearbox are made out of Elektron( Magnesium Alu)
two of the coolest and most down to earth guys in the hobby. i am shocked dennis only has 85k subs
Hans Ledwinka was Czech-austrian engineer, not Austrian, even his name Ledwinka is Czech and means kidney. But that was typical almost half of all Viennas shops has Czech names according its original Czech founders...
Yes VW nazi Porrsche copy patent Erich Ledwinka.Ledwinka family winner or process copy VW
means little kidney, ledvina would be kidney😉
Amazing cars, great show.
Kent Purdy carfcurclm
Love that Jay drives all his cars but then again if we had his money and collection we would all do the same.
There was a modern Tatra with a rear V8 sold in the mid 90s, just after the split of Czech and Slovak Republics. I remember seeing a review of it and details for the importer to the UK.
great sound...
They actually raced in Rally in tatra back in the day... We have some of them left here in Finland, some in bad condition some in better...
Really? Never knew they were rallyed. Like the Czechoslovak rallye Škodas are classics but never knew about the Tatras
Something struck me as Jay mentioned about having dinner in the Tatra T87.....Jay needs to go through some drive through food joints and order food while in some of his beautiful cars just for some fun.
That Muira sounds savage!
Jay Leno: there's no crumple zone, you are the crumple zone.
LoL 😁 that was funny.
WOW, makes you wonder if Preston Tucker visited Czechoslovakia at some point in his life. Rear engine, air cooled, 3 headlights...hmmm?
Now I've seen so many videos of you, so now I subscribed. Fun video :)
Tatra was a featured marque at Pebble Beach in 2014. There were about 20 of them there. The Muira was a featured Marque in 2016. About a dozen(?) showed up.
Tatra were a company way ahead of the time and along with Skoda heavy engineering was one of the main reasons Hitler and the Nazis invaded the Czech Republic so quickly, lots of their engineering was far ahead of the Germans. The Tatra V570 design was stolen by the Nazis and made into the original VW Beetle. The reason behind the shape of this model was something called 'streamlining' was being tested in cars.
Yes Allen, What the NAZIs were really after was the Factory that made those state of the art Submarines that were used by the Czech navy and the Slovak coast guard. This is where the U-Boats that conquered France were actually made.
@@ivannajakov7787 man those submarines were the best, i still own one and i drive it in our rivers pretty regularly
@@ivannajakov7787 Before the war, the Czech Republic was the best industry in Europe and the 4th in the world before they sold us.
@@ivannajakov7787 It was a nation which designed it´s own aircrafts, it´s own tanks, had large weaponry factories, was manufacturing heavy cannons for navy, manufactured ship engines, and exported whole factories. Germany was the poor neighbour in many aspects. Nazis took over without fight thanks to Munich´s pact, and used forced labour on locals to provide equipment for war.
Got to love all the exhaust smoke coming out the tailpipes, in California, Ha! 👍
I love them both but I think I would rather have the Tatra
Beautiful color
8:15 did Jay forget about the Matra Djet? 1962! :)
I love seeing more Tatra videos. There are not many English language Tatra videos out there.
Tyler Linner F.
Good thing to know the tenuous contention has always been a thing
Tatra T87, a unique car in those days
that heap of shit
AND today ❤️
This reminds me of taking a trip to the Lamborghini-section of my garage, havn't been there for a while. That good ol' poster still there I guess!
you are so cool! u must be as rich as jay.. just had to mention it huh? is your lambo section next to your steam powered section too?
Mama mia that V12 screams!
That Tatra looks a bit like Topper's car from the movie.
Cool car man.
Have a 1950 T87 Tatra in the collection at work
COOL My Classic Car Season 22 Episode 4 - Jay Leno's Tatra & Lamborghini
If you look close at 3:55 the air intake (?) looks like a 3D printed replacement.
I was under the impression that the Muira was 'inspired' by the GT40, even to the point where Bertone's people actually measured parts of the Ford.
The Tatar MTX V8 uses the same 1930s air cooled V8 engine. A British company adapted the engine for fuel injection.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTX_Tatra_V8
????????????????, Are you kidding. MTX V8 have an TATRA T613 3.5V8 dohc engine (designed in 1970) OVER the rear axle and NOT BEHIND the rear axle !
There were other early 60s mid-engine exotic sports cars, Porsche 904, Ford GT, Ferrari Dino 246. The Miura was probably the first mid engine sports car purpose built for the road, not a racing model modified for the street.
if u want 2see a purple miura get the 70 cult flick super fly TNT 😎
It's odd to see Jay riding shotgun. Lol
Alfa Romeo type 33 stradale is my favorite.
Porsche copied tatra. Tatra sued and won.
Yes Porsche no patent technology.Patent Hanz Ledwinka erich Ledwinka friend Porsche. WW2 nazi hitler vw beatle from Porsche th-cam.com/video/Q-c3Ue2NlxY/w-d-xo.html
Lets get magnezium hot , what is the worst that could happen ?
Makes me want to put some Matt Monroe on the record player... :-)
hay that old guy could handle him self behind the wheel tho
Rear/mid-engine V8, bundle of snakes, awful rear visibility, the Tatra's practically a 1930's GT40! ;-)
Yes czech patent hanz lewinka no porsche.V8 czech sound :-)
You do not need rear visibility if you are the fastest car around.
I thought all the Tatras made were right hand drive even though the Czechs drove on the right? Obviously not but surprised me.
Side of road changed when Hitler annexed czechoslovakia. It was left side before Munich pact. Happened all over Europe, except Britain, where they never set foot.
Miuras were known to take to air at high speed
I like the 48 tucker that had the center headlight that turned when you turned the wheel. Love pre 1950 cars. Can’t believe there was over 250 car makers back then. Now cars are a pile of plastic, cheap metal and a headache after 2 years. Some even quicker. And they’re all 4 cylinder turbos which is terrible. V8s and up are the best. Sad car manufacturers are steering away from the v8, ,10 and v12s.
That car is blowing a lot of oil smoke or is that unburned fuel?
and jay also said that the engine mixes its oil with its fuel, explaining the white smoke
while it'd be a problem in normal cars if you saw this kind of smoke, in cars such as the miura and the more obscure 2-stroke trabant, which also mixed it's fuel with oil, its quite normal, and gives the car a specific oily smell
+Gynkys No 4-cycle engine mixes oil with fuel, it just wouldn't run properly if it did. Instead, the 4-cycle engine in the Miura shares its crankcase oil with the transmission, as Jay pointed out at 10:10 in the video.
ah, my bad! thank you for telling me :)
with old expensive rare carbureted engines it's usually wise to jet the carbs a little rich to help avoid the risk of leaning out and burning/breaking something. yes it does leave additional carbon deposits in the engine but that can be cleaned out for the cost of the gaskets whereas if you burn a hole through a piston, you're rebuilding the entire engine.
Jay has a Ferrari he's never shown and that looks like a 550 Porsche spyder also.
1:28 what's the silver car in the background?
Looks like a Porsche 550 to me
For a second I thought I was watching "The People's Court."
0:55 Magnesium engine sounds like a recipe for disaster lol
Isn't this season 16 episode 2?
Yes it is. But it's been re-edited for this season so we wanted post the updated version. We have a full Leno playlist coming soon by the way.
MyClassicCarTV Very happy to hear that the playlist is on the way. I should clarify, I didn't mean to complain...I'm happy to watch any episode!
So the argument about the Muira, it is the first supercar. Leno claims the Gullwing Mercedes, which was designed for racing. The Muira was pure ego and would never let it's cuffs and hems be soiled.
3:07 Is the clock inside the Tatra original? It ticks like a quartz clock, but being from 1938 I doubt quartz clocks were a thing yet (might be wrong)...
To je ale srovnání co? Ale Tatra,nezná bratra! :-)) What a comparison, huh? But Tatra,he doesn't know his brother! :-))
Magnesium Engine? wow
aluminium-magnesium alloy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnalium
Vw aircooled flat fours had a 2 piece magnesium block and aluminum heads.
Tatra no vw.Tatra czech patent technology.VW copy Tatra.Erich Ledwinka patent.Ledwinka friend porsche,colabore nazi from hitler vw beatle.
I remember reading years ago about Vw losing a court battle against Tatra For the air cooled engine design in 1954 or 1955 perhaps?
Yes ledwinka family winner or process VW COPY
sets off in a haze of oil smoke haha
Too many BS rules and regulations have ruined todays cars.
Yes 100%!
@shumpie41 Breathing and surviving isn't living.
What is it with car fanatics and tight fitting denim Clarkson and leno the stone wash kings.
I thought Jay didn't smoke.
When did he smoke
This Tatra is suspiciously similar to a VW beetle
No! Beetle is a copy of Tatra staging history!!!
@@surprisingskodaskoda9355
Beetle copied the Tatra 97.
Car didn't garner the attention it actually deserves....one of the Nazi regime sins .....my favourite...
It was *not* a product of the Nazis.
Bit smokey
The VW beetle started out as an Idea Dr.Porsche had long before it was mass produced.
The concept was the peoples car. n.b. it was not communist, it was inspired by the model T ford. You put 4 adults in 2 bench seats and enclose them in the smallest cabin possible, that will also hold the wheels and as small an engine that can get the job done, and give it a shape that will have the least aerodynamic drag. Now the more of these you make the lower the price can be...Hitler liked the idea but modified it to if you give me your freedom, I will give you a car. n.b. this was at a time when working class people in Germany could not afford a car.
Of course this was a scam. The price he offered was far below the money anyone could build a car for, and by the time the factory was finished, the war started and the factory would make the kubelwagen a fuel sufficient car for the army.
The TATRA was always a larger more expensive 4 door car with a V8. this was something that could be made for the price they planned. And it had a tail-fin The shapes are similar because that is the sort of shape that gives you the most passenger room with the least drag. Niether car was a copy of the other.
@Skodaman2 The reasons VW lost were
1, the trial happened in Czechoslovakia ( the country were Tatra was located)
2, The shyster TATRA hired was competent.
3, The judge was not, he must have been some kind of a stupid @$$ hole.
4, Volkswagen had been a project of the NAZIs. There are photographs of Hitler at a rally inside a VW convertible giving the crowd the NAZI wave.
5, Do you know who financed the Volkswagen project? Maybe the Nazis put up some of the money, but Hitler and his pal, Rhinehart thought up this scam were a German who could not afford to buy a car would buy these stamps and if they ever got a full book of stamps, they could trade the book for a new people's car.
Before anyone ever did this, the war started, the factory had to make Kubelwagens for the army ( including officers of the Waffen S.S.) before long the 8th air force had bombed the $#*+ out of the factory. Therefore some Kraut who worked for the company that was created from the ruins of this NAZI factory may be listened to for a few minutes while he said that Dr. Porsche had been thinking about the people's car since the early twenties and Porsche had actually tested models of cars that looked like the VW in the wind tunnel in the 1930s, after that he was told to shut up and go think up an apology. If he did not, OK, he could be charged with contempt, and that evening he could Czech out the Prague jail, if he wanted to do things the hard way.
6, Any non-retarded person can see that the Tatras have a big tail fin on the rear and a VW does not, so the VW can't be a copy.
If you can contact Mr. Leno about this he may know experts on both marques of car who will back up my side of the story.
A dnes Tatra krachuje...
Czechoslovakian car and has to do nothing with austria!(TATRA)
Jay hates Ferrari! By 1969 Ferrari's were 4 cam!
enough of lenos garage........doesn't he have his own channel..........................
justin case yes lol
Having watched all of Leno's videos several times, I am glad for the extra coverage on this channel. And I've discovered this show as a result.
vitaly me too
yup....who else has Tartas to check out???
Handmade Italian does not quality make, especially 1960s time
2:30 Nazi is a Jewish term. Is this a Jewish Channel?
Huh??
Oh a Nazi killing car reputation is badass even they got some action in ww2