Tatra T87 - Things of the Past
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- Rolling through the streets of Los Angeles in his 1941 Tatra T87, Mr. Paul Greenstein might as well be invisible. Other drivers speed past his Czech oddity without a second glance, seemingly oblivious to the car's dorsal fin and triple headlights. But as Paul swings the Tatra into a parking space in front of a favorite local bistro, it's as if he has brought the black teardrop to a stop in the middle of a Hollywood spotlight that immediately attracts the attention of every passerby. Here come the second glances, the puzzled questions.
"What in the world is that?"
"Is that a...a Citroen? A Volkswagen? An, uh....I mean, what is it?"
That question--"What the hell is that?"--is one that visitors to Paul's world frequently find themselves asking. His East Los Angeles shop is a celebration of all things old, vintage, and, by Paul's own admission, weird: a Skoda Felicia convertible awaiting restoration, a half dozen Seeburg and Wurlitzer jukeboxes, and even, amidst a congregation of Indian and BMW motorcycles, a vintage coin-operated peep show. Somewhere in here, Paul finds enough space to make neon signs for a living.
A short drive away is Paul's house, a hilltop Victorian that Paul still locks up with the original skeleton key and that, not surprisingly, struggles to contain more of Paul's curios. This is where he keeps the antique board games, the assorted Tatra memorabilia, even a pre-World War I Czech military uniform. With the jukeboxes rocking the shop, Paul relies on an Edison cylinder phonograph for music at home. Or, if he's feeling lively, he can always pull from his own experience as the onetime leader of a local Western Swing band and belt out a Spade Cooley tune on his own.
Paul is proof that what starts as a passion for vintage cars seldom stops at vintage cars. Automobiles, after all, are a collection of many disciplines and endeavors (metallurgy, communications, upholstery, mechanics, design and more) and the desire to enjoy, drive, fix, and learn about them tends to lead a person down a rabbit hole of fascination with bygone eras. Before knowing it, 78rpm records, 1920s furniture, and, classic cars have replaced their modern-day equivalents.
Oh, and there is stream of people scratching their head, asking, "What the hell is that?"
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Here in Czech Republic, in the birthplace of Tatra these old versions are pretty rare too. Mostly they are taken as sign of our former wealth and capability, which in many ways died down during Nazi occupation and then after 1948, when we were cemented in "Eastern Bloc" as a soviet satellite state.
Tatra made small number of passenger cars until 90's but in period of 1948-1989 their production was aimed at the top regime officials - normal people couldn't afford one. Today Tatra is still producing cars, but in form of heavy duty trucks. They are pretty famous too, but for different things.
And yes, german officers were after some time forbidden to use these cars because sooner or later they would end up in a ditch and very dead.
One last thing - the license plate of this piece says "OSMIVLC" which stands for "Osmiválec" / ''Eight cylinder" - in Czech that is "eight" (osm) and "válec" (cylinder)...
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Tady v České republice, v rodišti Tatry, jsou tyhle staré verze taky dost vzácné. Většinou jsou brány jako známka našeho dřívějšího bohatství a schopností, které v mnoha ohledech zanikly během nacistické okupace a pak po roce 1948, kdy jsme byli zabetonováni ve východním bloku jako sovětský satelitní stát. Tatra do 90. let vyráběla malý počet osobních automobilů, ale v letech 1948-1989 byla jejich výroba zaměřena na vrcholné představitele režimu - normální lidé si ho nemohli dovolit. Dnes Tatra stále vyrábí automobily, ale v podobě těžkých nákladních automobilů. Jsou taky dost slavní, ale každý na něco jiného. A ano, němečtí důstojníci měli po nějaké době zakázáno tato auta používat, protože dříve nebo později skončí v příkopu a velmi mrtví. Poslední věc - na poznávací značce tohoto kusu je napsáno „OSMIVLC“, což znamená „Osmiválec“ / „Osm válec“ - v češtině to znamená „osm“ (osm) a „válec“ (válec)...
Love the owner! Not about money but the passion, that there is an auto enthusiast
This guy is simply amazing. Great philosophy and great cars.
Best kind of car guy you can ever be!
And great beard as well LOL !
My grandfather Hans Ledwinka designed that car.
Beth Fetter ..your grandfather is Hans Ledwinka! How cool is that!?
So your father is Erich or Fritz?
@Jerry V They are on the same level just doing trucks .
Woooooooooow!!!!! Coooool!!!
....and then someone "borrowed" the idea. Purr- shea, Poor-schäh.....😌
Great license plate! "OSMIVLC" is a shortening of czech word osmivalec meaning 8-cylinder engine.
Thanks for pointing that out :)
Correct
Whoever made this short fantastic movie deserves an Oscar.
Czech republic, or Czechoslovakia before separation, is an amazing country. How such a small country has been able to create so many amazing things and often advanced in so many areas, especially industrial, is amazing.
yeah, in the mid-world war era was czechoslovakia on the top with other countries :)...but then came Hitler and later communists...
bezor Ta You also have excellent beer.
Calum Crowther True about the beer, but I'm not from there. I have visited the country and am also very familiar about it's great achievements.
+Calum Crowther not only beer ;-) Look at Reno Pylon races... lots of L-39 airplanes.
I'm not from there but just been visiting and know a bit of their history.
As a Czech, I really appreciate that Petrolicious have included T87 on the list. Being one of the most significant European motoring pioneers, Tatra undoubtedly deserves this honor. Thank you in the name of all Czech petrolheads! Now I can't wait for you to make a movie about our beloved beauty, 1950's Czech state of the art, Tatra 603... :)
T603 is really the crown jewel of Czech engineering!
Love that felicia in his garage, waiting to be restored
+r6201sk Přesně :)
Look up images of the Hungarian comic book 'Cafe Postnuclear' on google. It's basically a soviet version of Mad Max. The protagonist drives a madmaxified Felicia cabrio. It's amazing :D
@@ipariszalonna Looks more like Duke Nukem lol
@@ipariszalonna is it possible to buy it in ENG version? Or download it somewhere? :)
You have an awesome licence plate, Osmiválec :) Greets from Czech Republic!
Did not really happen to me quite yet. I am watching it for the third time today and i still can not get enough of it.
I love you Petrolicious.
I'm Czech and I have to say, that I'm really happy for what I have just seen. Thank you Mr. Greenstein. You are a good man.
Really beautiful industrial design. Well worth the extensive restoration. Something to love, indubitably...
Jay Leno is a huge Tatra fan and has a few nice videos about them. An incredible car. Would feel absolutely privileged to have one or even be allowed to ride one.
That Tatra is just jaw droopingly gorgeous. It looks weird and elegant at the same time. The interior looks fantastic and comfortable and the driver/owner, it sounds like he understands the passion.
The license plate is a nice little touch, because "OSMIVLC" means V8 engine in Czech. Also the Tatra Museum in Koprivnice is one of the nicest automotive museums I've ever been to.
I bet a Tatra museum IS one of the nicest museums you've been to!
That is a truly unique and amazing car and the owner is chill.
I am from the Czech Republic and i love this channel... And when i played this i almost cry... And old Skoda Felicia in his garage
And yes all this desing and air cooled back engines Porshes and Beatles are exist becouse of Tatra... Did you how much money gave Porshe to Tatra for stoling this? 1 mil. DEM in eightees (its nothin!) now Tatra can do only trucks (wins Dakar '88, '94, '95, '98, '99, '01)....
what an amazing car, i would love to see a video on this channel featuring a early Skoda felicia or octavia. i'm in Australia and am currently restoring a skoda s110
I respect the approach to cars and things, and love the eccentric Tatra,
İf batman would live in 40's he would definitely drive this one!
Bat mans been around since the 30's
OK then he drived it, definetly!
Enes Bilgin if the Batshark lived in the 40s he would have driven this.
I always imagined Batman as more of a Phantom Corsair kinda guy
no batman is more of a tatra 303 guy
We need more people like him in this world!
That thing is amazing for being 80 years old. Must've been crazy driving that in the 30s
Tatra in America? COOL! I like you, mr.l :) And glad to see also T603
or Škoda Felicia there. My dad´s father had one Tatraplan and my another grandpa was professional driver on Tatra T87, T603 and T613 (and earlier in army, he was driving and reparing Tatra T111 and T128 :D ). We have still logo from his last T603 on our tractor trailer. So we have love for Tatras in our family - and I am glad, that there are people with love forTatras also in America. :)
I love people like this guy. Even his house looks interesting as hell, that's before you think about all the amazing stuff he has. I would love to know him to be able to just have a look at all his weird and wonderful things. The world is a so much better place for having people like this in it.
Svět je mnohem lepší místo pro to, aby v něm byli takoví lidé...Přesně tak!
Another splendid Petrolicious film. I'd never heard of Tatra before this. I'm glad I've learnt something new.
This video isn't even remotely long enough!! Tatra is very underrated and quite.. forgotten. Thanks for the effort to put this right.
I knew this was going to be a good video from the opening credits. This guy gets it, and thanks for giving us a glimpse into his world.
That car is absolutely beautiful. I have been a car guy since second grade and it wasn't long before I knew about the T87 and its slippery beautiful shape. I'd love to see this in person, but I'd probably totally geek out. I also couldn't help but envy his garage.
My brother has all Zikmund & Hanzelka books I guess. Beautiful pictures of the world travelled with that stunning Tatra:)
I'm Hungarian and it's nice too see Tatra on the road I'm a teenager and have a huge passion for cars and everything that have wheels I like course Cars are my passion. Love this channel and nice car aswell.
A man of good taste.
Anyone can/should appreciate that.
This numberplate - OSMIVLC = osmiválec = this means V8 engine. Such an iconic car! One of the most beatuful cars ever built. So proud to be from the Czech Republic!
Great work with the restauration. Wish you all the best to your amazing hobby.
These Petrolicious videos were truly priceless
That is one of the slickest rides I've ever seen. So cool and I love the fin.
as a Czech, I feel very proud.
There is a beautiful silver example of the Tatra 87 on display in the Design Museum (Die Neue Sammlung) in Munich. I had heard of Tatra before but never understood what the fuss was about until I saw the 87. The attention to design detail is incredible, even when compared to modern day cars.
This guy is a real character, and I mean that in the best way. What a cool shop, house, and lifestyle.
Thanks for this Tatra, Mr. Greenstein.
Sincerely,
the World
Nice to see "our" Tatra in the good caring hands yet so far from home :).
This is such a great guy. Down to earth, passionate, yet calm and thoughtful.
A rare and weird Czech WW2 Skoda RSO 4x4 would fit him nicely. He deserves to own one.
This is one of those great characters, he could be in a Coen Brothers movie. He should open up a museum, that way he can keep his interesting stuff and share it with others at the same time.
What a fascinating car. The owner seems like a really cool guy, would be great to drink a beer with him and talk about all of those fantastic machines in his garage and backyard.
Another great video about passion, "it is about the heart and soul and not the money". Very admirable.
Oh, and I love the car too!
And the fact that it IS all about the passion........that is how I feel when fixing or adding an item or servicing my car or a friends car.......It isnt about the $$$, It is ALL about the passion......I feel great passion when I can do a fabulous detailing on the exterior of a car or truck and the owner loves it !!
Awesome video! The cor is gorgeous and an important piece of history.
What he said at the very end..."when I kick the bucket, then somebody else will have it...I won't make any money on it, but that's not what this is about." I'm really liking this guy right now!
WoW Petroleum thank you for sharing your TATRA, made under 'EasternBloc' and not lame. I notice how well you drive, getting non synchro shift with no drama or noise, Bravo‼️. 🙏
Tatras 77, 77A, 87, 97, 600 tatraplan, 603...all amazing cars. And Hanzelka & Zikmund are my favourite travelers. They continued with T87 from south Africa through South America to Mexico. Mr. Miroslav Zikmund still lives he's 96 now and full of life.
What a great story. I really like the look of the Tatra and Mr. Greenstein you are a very Kool guy.
the car - the house - you - are a great combination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!showwww
Wooo 0:27 and 0:58 Felicia .. had one of those roadsters in RED (the one here is that blue one below VW). But main motive here is amazing T87 TATRA. Never had a chance to drive it, but it IS amazing piece of car making history. Not just because I was born in Czechoslovakia.
I'm glad there are people who cares about those precious gems.
I like the fact that our cars are also known in foreign country and also as big country as America. These cars are pretty rare even in Czech Republic, it's quite hard to see them here. My cousin works in Tatra even though, that Tatra is now making just big trucks. He owns also two three Tatras, two of them are 613, which are quite new and then older army tanker. I'm really pleased that there are people with heart for old European classic cars. Greetings from Czech Republic.
What a refreshing, honest, transparency Mr. Paul Greenstein has regarding his enthusiasm and ownership of these old vehicles from the past, Petrolicious. I bet he would be an absolute pleasure to meet in person. Thank you for sharing. :)
I read somewhere that the Tatra T87 was the inspiration behind the Volkswagen which led to various air-cooled cars like the beatle, the type 2, the karmann ghia, Porsche and was also nicknamed Czechoslovakia's secret weapon by the Germans during their occupation of Czechoslovakia in world war 2, as it handled quite badly if driven wrong [like the old school porsches].
Love what is being done and hopefully a few more cars have been restored since then.
+timthemagicbus666 That´s right, but not only T87, but mainly V570. Porsche with Ledwinka were friends and itˇs known, that Adolf Hitler himself said to Porsche about Tatra, something like "This is what I want". Ledwinka has sued Porsche later and they had agreed, but sadly, Tatra is not so far known as Beetle, however it´s inspired by Tatra design and conception...
@@peterlukac8458 YOU think! I've studied inventors and it's true what they say - about an idea whose time has come. Several people will sometimes think of the same things, and think their ideas "are their own". But people are "given" similar ideas at the same time. Like the invention of the wheel. Everyone thought of that, except the Aztecs! The exception to the rule, then! How about Adolf Hitler (complete with smile on his face) pictured at the motor show, admiring a convertible car similar to the eventual Beetle! Hitler simply used public money to put together great like minded designers, to produce his brainchild! He was a fan of such ideas
The car he was intrigued by at the motor show, was designed by Josef Ganz, and didn't look as good as the eventual Beetle, but was the same sort of thing. And STEYR also brought out a similar design, which was pretty good! Check that one out on the internet!
Delightful in every way.
This guy is as unique as his car. I appreciate and find a lot of value to his approach to cars and life. Once again Petro has done their homework.
People like this are always awe-inspiring
Hanzelka and Zikmund drove Tatra 87 not only through Africa. They finished Africa leg in Cape Town, then crossed the Atlantic and drove through South and Central America to Mexico. Imagine that! They had no parts replaced driving over 110k km and 44 countries for 3 years (imagine the roads of the time!). The transmission almost died, but they finished the journey and drove Tatra back into Prague. Truly fascinating expedition (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanzelka_and_Zikmund). To me T87 is the most amazing car ever made.
Spot on. A beautiful collection but more importantly an eccentric car guy with the right idea about his toys. Great film!
Finally a Tatra video :D . There are arguments that the Tatra T97 was the "forefather" of the beetle. It started production in 1936 and was forced to shut down when the nazis invaded in 1938 presumably to avoid competition with the beetle. It's a shame Tatra was caught on the "wrong" side of the iron curtain since it would have been interesting to see what they would have come up with. The commie Tatras are easily the nicest eastern block cars as well
Yes thats true. It was a concurrent of Volkswagen/Porsche, it also known some patents/development was stolen by volkswagen and porsche.
There was another concept of "beetle" by tatra, from 1933 - V570... small car with boxer in back... sound familiar?
One of the best indications that Porsche borrowed for his KdF-Wagen (later known as Beetle) from Ledwinka is that he used the same central tube chassis and aircooled rear engine layout as Tatra.
Tatra sued Volkswagen and won the dispute. Unfortunately being located in the eastern block meant diffucult times still ahead, And that is still true even today.
and close the same design as the Tatra V570= Porsche invent nothing, only transform this Tatra in the nazi kdf car
Very bizarre car, but is has “something” that makes it special.
I hope that 603 and Felicia got restored too!
Even a Tatra!
Your videos are fantastic...
Very nice owner.
Perfect ending to the video. It's now about what the car is worth. It is about what the car is worth to you.
You should sell "Drive Tastefully" decals that would be fantastic.
epic ethos and passion, what a guy, great story
this guy is the awesomest dude ever!
Beautiful car! That fin on the BACK is amazing, and the third headlight really fits the style, because it is slightly forward of the other two, with the perfect front curving forward, emphasizing this light! A car that is one of the best things money can buy.
My dad loved these cars. I wish he could have seen this; he was very similar to the owner, a tinkerer/mechanic/scientist with a great appreciation for materials and thoughtful design. Really touching to watch this.
Love the number plate :)
Great video, awesome guy with a clear philosophy and he sticks to it. I don't know wether the car was black when it was first built, but I don't like it black, what may also be a reason why it's overlooked, like the owner tells in that film. There was very beautiful red also delivered by Tatra - could be a solution. But the restoration and the story to be told - great, again. Thanks for sharing!
AWESOME! This guy could easily have his own TV show, showing-off his weird stuff and telling bizarre stories. That board game looks creepy.
This guy IS amazing and I love what he did with the Tatra......the car is gorgeous!!!
Fantastic restoration!
Tatra of Los Angeles, interesting to see... Greetings from Czech Republic
When I grow up I wanna be like this dude. As always, fantastic video guys!
I love Tatra's they were such amazing cars for their day!!!
Hope you will fix that beatiful T 603 at the backyard.
překrásná! the photographs of 'found state' and the restoration... just wow.
Un automovil absolutamente maravilloso.
Gotta love this guy's attitude. Nice video too.
such a big piece of nostalgia, great man + great car. greetings from prague
Every one of their videos is so amazing and educational about the cars and the people who drive them. I love watching these while I eat my breakfast :)
That wheel in the last shot, had a row of wheel weights covering almost half of the wheel.😮
Where do you find all these amazing people ? Another fantastic film.
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Beautiful looking car. I've heard of the Tatra T87, but I've never seen one in person. It's an unforgivable shame that it was never sold here in the USA and Canada. I can see it competing against the likes of Volkswagen, Porsche, and possibly Mercedes-Benz. :)
Volkswagen and Porsche brands came way later than these were designed, actually they both copied the Tatras to some extent.
Beautiful car - I love those old Tatras. And let's face it - the Beetle is a high volume mass-produced copy of that. Great guy too.
True Tatra owner / " custodian " - Fantastic
GOD bless this guy . I truly feel the same way . Life is live in the now ! Not in the past or the future it is only now .
I love this video, I think it's my favorite, partly because of nostaglia. I worked in NELA, near the Highland Park area for a few months back in '17 and I drove by that house several times! Those cars always got my attention especially the Rambler hardtop. Paul is amazing. Thank you for sharing.
5:02..an honest to goodness old school door lock..knob..and a real key..and keyhole!!
Beautiful! Such appreciation for your production team and the passion of the ownership.
Best yet.
All the credit to Mr. Greenstein. That's simply amazing how he restored the rusty Tatra T87. The legend amongst Czech cars as well as amongst al the Tatra models hugely popularized by Zikmund and Hanzelka, the czech famous voyagers.
I wish you good luck with the restoration of the 1960s Škoda Felicia convertible... This actually my parents' favourite car. So fingers crossed and I'll be proud to show them your next video, hopefully with Felicia on the roads of L.A. :)
Thank you so much again for posting this vid.
Beautiful character, beautiful car.
beautiful workshop, full of amazing stuff. I've always thought the big old Tatra a wonderful car. Thank you.
Gotta love this guys attitude:)
Fabulous. Just fabulous.
This car was called "The nazi killer", because its lightness and power that german officers were not used to. They usually ended up in horrible crashes. Tatra made a great job, as always. Greetings from Czech Republic.
Another fantastic video featuring a fantastic person and a car that most of us probably had never heard of! Keep them coming!